I never understood this, why the fvck did Eugene rat himself out to Tony about the money? Why not keep it to himself and his wife? How would Tony ever find out?
When i went back home there is now alot of chek outs old freinds had no problem telling me thay were chek outs now for there kids and could walk around the world is changed that one did not make me mad
@@MensaGiraffeThe feds wouldn't allow it, and you'd have to live looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life, wondering if agent Vito is sneaking up behind you.
i am sick of that shine box line that shit is old as f k . say that shine box shit to a real mobster you wold shinning his knob not a shoe!! go watch some more movies a get a new one
Yeah, WTF was that about? No mobster in the history of the Mob ever did that or had to do that. That is personal money and exempt from tax. Has nothing to do with Mob income. If that were me I would have set up a new life in the Keys for me and the fam under assumed names and just disappear.
He showed his hand way too early. Gave himself no chance to lie, none to run. Now he had no control of anything. After that mistake, he made the only choice he had. 41… he was just a kid.
He should have kept it to himself. By handing Tony a large amount of cash, Tony saw Eugene’s worth as an earner and wanted to keep him. Not to mention he was an informant so the FBI wouldn’t have let him go that easy. The pressure from his wife was insane as well. She put too much pressure on him which also led to his demise.
Eugene’s biggest problem imo is that he was already an FBI informant. Even if he disappears from the mob, how’s he supposed to function when they’re going to be on his ass? You can’t buy a house/put your kids in a school without them getting an idea of where you are. Even if he decides to serve his sentence instead of ratting, we’ve no idea how long he’s going to be in prison for. If anything it just fits the statement even more about how the life of a guy like that ends: “dead, or in the can.”
He had a couple of other options, tough but doable: 1) Do the sentence, and leave prison wealthy; this has a further couple of variables, how long his mother lived, and exactly what the Feds had on him. If his Mum was 94 when she died, and he was 51 at the time of incarceration, and looking at 20 years, he'd be out in 10 with good behaviour,. He'd be 61, and with the lack of booze/tobacco and whatever other drugs he might be on, if he lived like a monk he'd have a decent shot at a happy life, albeit 10 years will change a man. However, if she died in her 50's like his dad, well wtf does he have to look forward to? ; 2) Escape to a country with no extradition. This is a big ask as it uproots his little girl, his bitch wife isn't likely to want to go along with it/him, and don't get me started on his druggy son. But, there are shall we say entities who can get them onsite, if not onboard - that's Eugene's problem.
I seem to remember Tony telling Christopher that 'the books were closed' and that was why he wasn't made earlier, I think in reference to Christopher bringing up killing "Email" and how that should have been enough to be made, no idea which episode. That could be part of why it took so long for Pontecorvo to get made. I wonder if Chase had Pontecorvo's ending in mind when he had him made at the same time as Christopher, since that is when he took the oath.
For an analysis like this, if you've watched some of the former mob guys on UA-cam or documentaries on TV, a pretty common thread is that most of these guys weren't very smart, crafty or able to "think outside the box" Eugene might have been streetwise or had "street smarts" but to come up with a plan to leave the life and get out from under the thumb of the FBI would need a lot more than that.
Wanting to go to Florida with a drug-addicted son would have created huge problems, that’s like going to Nevada and working on a ranch to get away from a gambling addiction.
@@mikef6063 what if Tony found out on his own somehow? could be a bad ending for Gene. better take the 10% loss and keep him happy. or maybe even give him less than the official cut since it’s not “earning” per se and definitely DONT mention the full amount
@@monsieurcondottiero2685 That's the point though, its not illegal rackets or anything having to do with the mob. Tony has no claim on this. This is the mob not the government.
No. Eugene didn't have enough stuff on Tony to make a decent witness for the FBI and court prosecutors. The best he could have hoped for is to go to prison, see out his sentence, then move away from Jersey once out, by which time the entire Soprano crew will have been dead, imprisoned or incapable of hunting him down.
Going into witness protection would easily be the best solution. Tony would never let him go and would just squeeze him dry. Now granted Tony would probably easily find if he moved to Florida, but if he didn't go there but instead went to i don't know... friggin' Appalachia it would probably take a long time for tony to find him, Fabian Petrullo the rat from season 1 went on to live for 12 years and would probably have gone on for longer if Tony hadn't run into him...
WITSEC has a 100% protection rate for individuals in the program that have followed the guidelines set forth by the FBI. Eugene would have never been found if he followed the rules.
I don't think Eugene being older than Chrissy when they both get made means Eugene took a long time to get there. I think it means Chrissy got there early.
yes i agree! Nepotism was a strong theme with Chrissy. In one scene he even gets away with saying something like "if we don't do this, I have to question your motives" to Tony, in-front of everyone
I still think his wife hired the guy to take Tony out in the last episode. First episode of the season was called “Members Only” and the diner guy in the last episode was listed in the credits as Man in Members Only jacket. If this were the case, it means Tony was basically a dead man walking after episode 1 of the season and all of the New York war stuff was essentially pointless because his fate was already sealed. That’s how I will always picture it, at least.
Eugene could've worked as plumber or electrician and lived a relatively normal life and then retired to Florida with the $2mil. Some of the mobsters felt they didn't have any other choices but Eugene would've been WAY better off without the mob.
@@apierre6 No...after a couple of months, they quietly move to Florida and they can start a new life there. I realize the FBI would never have let him go though, so it's really a mute point.
You really think they didnt know about that money YEARS before his mother passed? You REALLY think these clowns dont talk about the think they are anticipating most.... Probably DECADES prior,.
Thank you for taking your time and doing an episode of Eugene. His death scene next to Adriana is probably one of the most distrusting scenes of the series. He loved his family like you said, he way trapped like a RAT 🐀
I wouldn’t have told Tony about the money. Like someone, i think Christopher, said - you’re only as good as your last envelope. Eugene could’ve done whatever he wanted and paid his dues, maybe even a bit more, out of his inheritance. He could’ve engineered a scenario where he was Tony’s Best Earner. I completely forgot Gene was compromised - one of the drawbacks of watching the show in 2min clips on YT lately. Unsurprisingly, Tony and the Feds both “reject” his move to Florida (as if he had a choice). Even if he caught Tony on a ‘good day,’ the Feds would never let him go - they’re Vampires. Eugene kept his Honor, and went out like a man, on his terms. I believe he handled the situation the best way he could.
Indeed that money could have been used to make himself quite the earner until feds let him go . Property, shylocking etc he'd be in great position to be a top earner for Tony The dream house be used as holiday home. Tony didn't need to know shit
1:48 Interesting, I heard a slightly different explanation. Basically, David Chase and the writers had 70% of the season 3 storyline mapped out and then suddenly Nancy Marchand died so they decided to basically start from scratch and write Livia off altogether. As such, Tony needed a new antagonist for the season (Livia was going to rat on him to the feds about the airline tickets) and the new character in development known as Ralphie was given a bump up to be the new foil for Tony. Realizing that a much more well known and stronger actor was required to play the part of Tony's new headache, Joe Pantoliano was quickly hired and Robert Funaro (who as mentioned, was still under contract) was given a new, but lesser role to play instead.
I always wondered why there was no blowback for Eugene beating up Little Paulie like that. He's Paulie's nephew and Paulie lost it when Chris threw him out the window in season 6
Eugene imo should have secretly offered Tony a retirement deal (€1 million cash goes directly to Tony no one else needs to know!). Eugene could have agreed to be a contact down in Florida so he’d be close but not too close. Let’s be honest, we all know he’s not the first.
I don't see this. If Eugene had stopped cooperating with the FBI they would have just charged him and his son with whatever they had over them and they'd go to prison for a long time. The whole point was he was totally screwed.
Eugene's biggest error was telling Tony anything. If he would have just taken the money and left one day/never to return, then I am fairly sure Jersey would have thought him dead and blamed NY.
Why do you assume Tony didnt know about the money YEARS before? You think Eugene wouldnt talk about the windfall he expected before his folks kicked it?
What I am wondering is why the hell didn't he ask the FBI first if he could even move to Florida before bringing it up to Tony? Telling Tony anything about your plans before they are fully developed is a terrible idea.
It was the dumbest thing ever. All he had to do was say he had a package in Fort Lauderdale. That was doing big numbers and send Tony a little bit of scratch every month. And the story you buy your way out.
Best thing for Eugene to have done would be not to mention the inheritance to anyone. Then tell Tony that he developed bronchitis or something and that he wouldn't be able to hang out on New Jersey construction sites in the winter anymore. Ask to be "transferred" to Florida like Ralph was. Since Eugene was a middling earner, Tony might have been convinced to go along with it. Then tell the FBI that Tony ordered it. This would force the FBI's hand. They would have to either let him go and he would become a less valuable informant, being thousands of miles away and running small rackets. Or they would have to arrest him and then he could make the decision whether to testify or not. Maybe it would be better to take 5 or even 10 years to not have to rat. Either way, once he finally got to Florida, he'd have to get some income anyway. He was in his early 40's and 2 mil isn't going to hold a family of 4 forever.
The first mistake Gene made was thinking that Tony was his friend or altruistic. Telling him about the inheritance then foolishly offering Tony a cut was just a green light for him to bleed him dry while still retaining his services.
Never should've told Tony about the two million dollars. Should've packed up the car, and drove to Mexico or Canada with his family, cash on hand. Fresh start in a new country.
I believe it was that same episode where Eugene and Chrissy both got made - Tony said to them both, "Once you enter this family, there's no getting out." Had he not been cooperating, simply disappearing may have worked; however, if Jersey wouldn't locate him, the Feds eventually would've. Basically, he was trapped and there really was no way out.
His best bet would have have gotten Tony on tape talking about something illegal, but would have to have had something more sophisticated than a running tape recorder and wire. Some kind of custom digital recorder built into a necklace or belt buckle perhaps? That kind of thing existed then, but was expensive... but hey, he's got 2 million dollars, he could pay for it himself if the FBI wouldn't/couldn't.
Few things: He was made at the same time as Christopher because the books were closed for years. Age or paying dues has nothing to do with It. He was never going to Florida, since the feds told him It wasn’t going to happen. Didn’t matter if Tony allowed him to go.
Eugene could have just left.. by season 6 esp towards the end.. Tony’s crew was basically destroyed. Wouldn’t have mattered. As you stated.. if Tony couldn’t get ahold of Furio or keep tabs on Ralph when he was in Florida.. Tony wouldn’t have given a shit about Eugene after a while..
Gene COULDN'T leave New Jersey. He was working with the Feds, so everything else was rendered moot. Inheritance, no inheritance, tell Tony, don't tell Tony-it didn't matter. Gene could not have left.
When I first watched this, I thought Tony saying "you wanna put some money on the street down there?" was his compromise solution. If EP didn't ignore this, it would've been his shot to not get out, but to keep his distance.
He couldn't have done half of these things because of the fact that he was snitching specifically on the Soprano crew. He couldn't go to Florida. He couldn't go anywhere.
i don't know if it's the case, but he should've lawyered up. With Tony's murder order told to the Feds, they would have had to pull him out and end the case with what they had, enough for RICO and conspiracy to murder to boot. The lawyer would've negotiated for immunity or WP with no prison time to button up his crucial testimony.
@ How would this scenario result in Tony “Losing income?” Tony had no idea and would never know about Eugene’s Aunt Edie dying unless Eugene told him. If he kept that info to himself, there would be no “Taste,” it would just be Eugene buying his way out.
@ Nothing to do with the 2mill. He would loose his regular income from Eugene if he let him go to Florida. OP even said at the start of the video, there is no 'buying your way out' so idk why everyone keeps bringing that up as an option. Eugene DID try that; "Hey here's a gift, Tone.. btw iv been thinking of moving to Florida..."
Eugene's wife was not a good mob wife. You know what this is. You can't go around insisting that he gets out. You shouldn't have married him in the 1st place. Charmane could complain to Artie about Tony all she wanted. But Artie wast a made guy and Tony, to his credit, kept Artie from veering too close.
The answer is no Eugene was talking to the Feds after Raymond had a heart attack and the Feds was the one who made up the idea of him and his family going to Florida. Eugene took his life because he realized he was not only the track of going no where or moving up in Tony crew, but there was many seasons you forgot Eugene was apart of the crew only when you saw him at the construction site with Vito, little Paulie, and Patsy, but he wasn't even a earner in the crew.
Not the "we lead the world in computer data organization" 😂😂😂 Oh and "loyale to his capo" inserted just so was Chefs Kiss 😂😂 Heres one more, in honor of Eugene- his Master's Voiccccce
The crow outside the window may be a reference to Gene's last name. Pontecorvo is the name of a municipality in Italy, literally translating to "Bridge of Crows". EDIT: Or maybe it's the other way around lol, they included the scene with crow first and then later decided to reference it with his name.
Great video. He was screwed all the way around. If you can, please do a video on how effective Tony would’ve been if he’d included Carmela in his business. She ended up giving him a lot of great advice in the later seasons. She was the boss of the wives. “What are you gonna do?” 😂
Eugene should have just done a Henry Hill... sure there’s no action. He would have to wait around like everyone else. He wouldn't even get decent food. Right after he goes in to witness protection he would order some spaghetti with marinara sauce and instead get egg noodles and ketchup. He would be an average nobody. He would get to live the rest of his life like a schnook.
I never thought Eugene got some sort of inheritance from a relative. I had always assumed that Eugene just made that up to score points with Tony by giving him “his taste” That was money straight out of his pocket, giving it to Tony as a “Hey look I got money from a dead relative. I totally didn’t have to tell you about this at all, but I’m giving it to you because I’m such a good earner and I’m loyal. So please let me go to Florida”
Yeah, I think wearing a wire and recording the orders to commit the hit, then bargaining the recording for letting him disappear to the feds would be his smartest play. Feds would get a much higher ranked guy as an informant and Eugene could threaten to destroy the recording unless he got a guarantee in writing that they would cut him loose. Of course, who knows how enforceable that guarantee would be.
His only real hope was to go off the reservation, just straight up packed a bag and never looked back. The problem is he couldn't ask anyone for help because Jersey would have put the screws to whoever helped till they gave him up, and the feds would have found him if he remained in the country. His only hope was to take the money and go somewhere that doesn't have extradition laws.
It was pretty delusional to think he’d be allowed to just move to Florida like that. Especially considering the feds had their hooks in him. Felt bad for the little girl. Her dad self deleted, her brother an addict, and her mother was a wreck. That Eugene story in the first episode of the last season really set the stage for how dark it was going to get. By the time they get to Tony , Sil, and Bobby everything was falling apart. Even if he had not lost his life, Tony was going to prison for the rest of his life. Even as an informant he wouldn’t have been out by 75-80 years old.
Corvo in Italian means crow and being that there was a crow at the ceremony of him being made, I’m pretty sure there’s some symbolism in there that had more to do with Eugene than Christopher.
Please note: you may notice some choppiness in the opening minute of the video. This is because I had to cut out some clips due to a copyright hit
I never understood this, why the fvck did Eugene rat himself out to Tony about the money? Why not keep it to himself and his wife? How would Tony ever find out?
@@notsocrates9529 cuz he's a dumb dumb
When i went back home there is now alot of chek outs old freinds had no problem telling me thay were chek outs now for there kids and could walk around the world is changed that one did not make me mad
This is why Tony was killed. Eugene's wife hired the members only jacket dude out of the inheritance
Why the fuck would you tell ANYONE, much less Tony, that you got a 2 milly inheritance.
He would have found out eventually
@@dolomitefan1767 Not if Eugene took the money and left the country with his family.
@@MensaGiraffeThe feds wouldn't allow it, and you'd have to live looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life, wondering if agent Vito is sneaking up behind you.
@@no-barknoonan1335 Vito is a come from behind kind of guy.
@RobertEdwinHouse9 Or Cuba
"Never said a single word and disappeared" = the only correct answer
yep.. moved to denmark or switzerland
Correct. Maybe left $50K at the house for tribute to Tony and skid addled.
Obviously he couldn't do that given he was an informant for the Feds.
All fun and games until Silvio and Chrissy pop up in Florida
He couldn't because of the fbi. Maybe if he fled the country
Imagine.
Getting two million and one week later … you’re in a shine box.
imagine, getting two million and one week later...you're in a shine box
@@abdullahmasotti Imagine this guy gets two million and a week later he's a shine box
Did Billy Bates make both of you say this?
@@The-Wolf-with-no-name bats?! That was the guy’s nickname .. his real name was Baterelli
i am sick of that shine box line that shit is old as f k . say that shine box shit to a real mobster you wold shinning his knob not a shoe!! go watch some more movies a get a new one
I still can't believe he gave Tony a cut of his inheritance. Lmao
Yeah, WTF was that about? No mobster in the history of the Mob ever did that or had to do that. That is personal money and exempt from tax. Has nothing to do with Mob income. If that were me I would have set up a new life in the Keys for me and the fam under assumed names and just disappear.
The Mafia was greedy, even in real life, they wanted a piece of everything.
Willingly and un prompted LOL
You think he had a choice. That's cute.
@@Percocet_6.2 You think people think that. That's cute.
He showed his hand way too early. Gave himself no chance to lie, none to run. Now he had no control of anything. After that mistake, he made the only choice he had. 41… he was just a kid.
Whatever happened there...
41 is middle age. Yeah, not a good age to die at, but definitely not a kid.
@@craigfin3222he was a handsome, strong young man!!
@@craigfin3222 nah he was a kid just a kid
Billy was 47 eugene at 41 just entered adulthood😢
“Eugene was a saint” - Eugene’s aunt
MAAAAA
Well, you outta know sweetie.
He's a saint now, you forget the thousand other incidents with this guy?
Eugene never had the makings of a millionaire retiree.
that line is getting very old but you dont know better sweet heart you ant from thos streets
Varsity millionaire 😂
His pockets... too little 😢
@@eedobee AGAIN WITH THE MONEY?!
🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
Eugene should have called a certain vacuum cleaning repair company
Did he own a Hoover Max Extract Pressure Pro model 60?
Hodgekie's quick vanish.
It's only what? 125,000? RIP Robert Forrester.
The crossover comment we didn't know we needed 😂
@@MensaGiraffe lmao why do you remember the exact model, i imagine now some people prank call vacuum cleaner shops with this lol
"He will be remembered as the guy hanging around, wanting to be cut loose"....thats dark bro 😅😂
Like spielberg
David chase “you’ll get a memorable ending”
(Hangs himself then pisses himself in a track suit)
It’s true that you do piss yourself, when I found my brother he was covered in piss, I think it’s a nervous system thing
@@curtisholmes9988sorry to hear that bro
Well...we remembered it, didn't we? lol
Yeah, but we remember it, don't we?
@@tacitus6384 lol true
He should never told Tony about the money and he should have just disappeared.
exactly, the NJ family would have just assumed NY or someone else took him out
@@maxpower2511 some people are out there stuffing themselves
@@A_r78gene was in no position to go into the unknown not knowin'
The fbi would arrest his ass probably
Family?!?! Its a glorified crew!!!!
No more weight remarks Cineranter, Their hurtful and their destructive.
Oh that we can agree lol
They are*
AIDS?!
NEVER!
@@memedealermikeyNOBODY HAS AIDS… I don’t want to hear that in this comment section again 😤
"You know, Quasimodo predicted all this..."
Fckn Brilliant
😂 😂 😂
He should have kept it to himself. By handing Tony a large amount of cash, Tony saw Eugene’s worth as an earner and wanted to keep him. Not to mention he was an informant so the FBI wouldn’t have let him go that easy. The pressure from his wife was insane as well. She put too much pressure on him which also led to his demise.
His son loved crack too
Tony never saw him as an earner because the money was an inheritance.
@@Captain_TorrentHe should have never told Tony about the inheritance in the first place
Eugene’s biggest problem imo is that he was already an FBI informant. Even if he disappears from the mob, how’s he supposed to function when they’re going to be on his ass? You can’t buy a house/put your kids in a school without them getting an idea of where you are. Even if he decides to serve his sentence instead of ratting, we’ve no idea how long he’s going to be in prison for. If anything it just fits the statement even more about how the life of a guy like that ends: “dead, or in the can.”
He had a couple of other options, tough but doable:
1) Do the sentence, and leave prison wealthy; this has a further couple of variables, how long his mother lived, and exactly what the Feds had on him. If his Mum was 94 when she died, and he was 51 at the time of incarceration, and looking at 20 years, he'd be out in 10 with good behaviour,. He'd be 61, and with the lack of booze/tobacco and whatever other drugs he might be on, if he lived like a monk he'd have a decent shot at a happy life, albeit 10 years will change a man. However, if she died in her 50's like his dad, well wtf does he have to look forward to? ;
2) Escape to a country with no extradition. This is a big ask as it uproots his little girl, his bitch wife isn't likely to want to go along with it/him, and don't get me started on his druggy son. But, there are shall we say entities who can get them onsite, if not onboard - that's Eugene's problem.
I seem to remember Tony telling Christopher that 'the books were closed' and that was why he wasn't made earlier, I think in reference to Christopher bringing up killing "Email" and how that should have been enough to be made, no idea which episode. That could be part of why it took so long for Pontecorvo to get made.
I wonder if Chase had Pontecorvo's ending in mind when he had him made at the same time as Christopher, since that is when he took the oath.
For an analysis like this, if you've watched some of the former mob guys on UA-cam or documentaries on TV, a pretty common thread is that most of these guys weren't very smart, crafty or able to "think outside the box"
Eugene might have been streetwise or had "street smarts" but to come up with a plan to leave the life and get out from under the thumb of the FBI would need a lot more than that.
Oh, he came up with a plan.
A clean break.
Wanting to go to Florida with a drug-addicted son would have created huge problems, that’s like going to Nevada and working on a ranch to get away from a gambling addiction.
Look at dis guy! Members Only.
Vito had that tattooed as a tramp stamp, IIRC
@@blahblahmeowchow6383 more like, all welcome.
Vito had a tattoos on each ass cheek. One of a tall stack of johnny cakes, the other a few links of "in house sausages"😂
You parade float.
And don't give me that aww shucks shit. You're FUGGIN GOIN!!!"
"You oughta know, sweety" HA!
What you say??
The quotes he throws into these scripts will never stop being funny to me. 😂
I gotta piss……Do me a favour huh? Hold this
@@arielalvarez5543 Nuttin', just breakin' baw's!
@@illwitness im gonna go take a leak.
"This is when everyone else was chalking their pool cues" is fucking diabolical.
bro thinks he's butcher
It won’t be cinematic..
There was no way out. That was the point. He did the only and best thing he could to protect both his families
Not really , I'm prety sure his son would get worse from his fathers loss
This was one of my favorite episodes of the entire series
im sitting here like patience on a monument waiting for live streams to be handed down!
You're gonna build Cineranter a ramp Ceerious🤘
He should of stopped at Roy Rogers !
But he didn't!
I remember when Eugene used to wait in the car, and as far as I’m concerned, he should STILL BE THERE.
Yes if he
1. Stayed as an informant
2. Give Tony his cut and stay quiet
3. Put Florida on hold
Then why the "give Tony a cut" part of #2 at all? Remove that and I agree. Just don't say anything about the two mill to begin with.
very reasonable thought buddy
4. Got ridda that mouthy wife
@@mikef6063 what if Tony found out on his own somehow? could be a bad ending for Gene. better take the 10% loss and keep him happy. or maybe even give him less than the official cut since it’s not “earning” per se and definitely DONT mention the full amount
@@monsieurcondottiero2685 That's the point though, its not illegal rackets or anything having to do with the mob. Tony has no claim on this. This is the mob not the government.
No. Eugene didn't have enough stuff on Tony to make a decent witness for the FBI and court prosecutors. The best he could have hoped for is to go to prison, see out his sentence, then move away from Jersey once out, by which time the entire Soprano crew will have been dead, imprisoned or incapable of hunting him down.
Going into witness protection would easily be the best solution. Tony would never let him go and would just squeeze him dry. Now granted Tony would probably easily find if he moved to Florida, but if he didn't go there but instead went to i don't know... friggin' Appalachia it would probably take a long time for tony to find him, Fabian Petrullo the rat from season 1 went on to live for 12 years and would probably have gone on for longer if Tony hadn't run into him...
i think they also said that febby got kicked out of the program which probably made him easier to find
WITSEC has a 100% protection rate for individuals in the program that have followed the guidelines set forth by the FBI. Eugene would have never been found if he followed the rules.
I don't think Eugene being older than Chrissy when they both get made means Eugene took a long time to get there. I think it means Chrissy got there early.
yes i agree! Nepotism was a strong theme with Chrissy.
In one scene he even gets away with saying something like "if we don't do this, I have to question your motives" to Tony, in-front of everyone
I still think his wife hired the guy to take Tony out in the last episode. First episode of the season was called “Members Only” and the diner guy in the last episode was listed in the credits as Man in Members Only jacket.
If this were the case, it means Tony was basically a dead man walking after episode 1 of the season and all of the New York war stuff was essentially pointless because his fate was already sealed. That’s how I will always picture it, at least.
Eugene could've worked as plumber or electrician and lived a relatively normal life and then retired to Florida with the $2mil. Some of the mobsters felt they didn't have any other choices but Eugene would've been WAY better off without the mob.
Give me 1,000 dollars...
What?
It's that zip furio
@@alanbrady7116 🤣🤣you got it!
@@JB-hl1qx we here for the money, tha bosses money. you want a coke, beer, soda? no, just the money.
🎶 Up in da club 🎶
I've always said Eugene was crazy to tell anyone about that money. He should have simply disappeared. They would have figured he was killed.
True. If he played it right he could have played it like he got "disappeared" and started a NJ NY war. Or start the war , goto the FBI, and be gone.
What about his wife and kids? He supposed to just leave them and disappear?
@@apierre6 No...after a couple of months, they quietly move to Florida and they can start a new life there. I realize the FBI would never have let him go though, so it's really a mute point.
You really think they didnt know about that money YEARS before his mother passed? You REALLY think these clowns dont talk about the think they are anticipating most.... Probably DECADES prior,.
The mob knows how much his family is worth.
Hands down the best Sopranos analysis vids on the tubes.
Thank you for taking your time and doing an episode of Eugene. His death scene next to Adriana is probably one of the most distrusting scenes of the series. He loved his family like you said, he way trapped like a RAT 🐀
Love how the video narrative weaves in offhand dialogue from the series. So excellent.
I wouldn’t have told Tony about the money. Like someone, i think Christopher, said - you’re only as good as your last envelope. Eugene could’ve done whatever he wanted and paid his dues, maybe even a bit more, out of his inheritance. He could’ve engineered a scenario where he was Tony’s Best Earner.
I completely forgot Gene was compromised - one of the drawbacks of watching the show in 2min clips on YT lately. Unsurprisingly, Tony and the Feds both “reject” his move to Florida (as if he had a choice). Even if he caught Tony on a ‘good day,’ the Feds would never let him go - they’re Vampires. Eugene kept his Honor, and went out like a man, on his terms. I believe he handled the situation the best way he could.
Indeed that money could have been used to make himself quite the earner until feds let him go . Property, shylocking etc he'd be in great position to be a top earner for Tony
The dream house be used as holiday home. Tony didn't need to know shit
Eugene went out like a punk. With $2 mill he could have put a hit out own Tony. No one would have suspected him.
@@willleon9165you’re screwed once you’re in bed with the FEDS. They are worse than the mob.
@@k.y3551 if he used head invested wisely he'd likely have support for hit with time🤣🤣
You all can barely speak English.
Tony: Eugene did that alone i didn't sanction this
Rope: lone gunman theory
Eugene Pontecorvo? He's so sweet.
He was like an animal. lol
@@sole__doubt Finn must've confused Eugene with Tony B. That fuckin' animal Blundetto murdered a kid.
@@raskolnikov7049He's A Child Killer...
Teddy right?
😮💥💥💥 🔫
Eugene was another hint to Springsteen "Wiping our fingers on a Texaco road map"
The references in your commentary to the series is spot on!
I was browsing your channel for a video I haven’t watched just an hour ago, I have been blessed
satanic black magick, sick shit
1:48 Interesting, I heard a slightly different explanation. Basically, David Chase and the writers had 70% of the season 3 storyline mapped out and then suddenly Nancy Marchand died so they decided to basically start from scratch and write Livia off altogether. As such, Tony needed a new antagonist for the season (Livia was going to rat on him to the feds about the airline tickets) and the new character in development known as Ralphie was given a bump up to be the new foil for Tony. Realizing that a much more well known and stronger actor was required to play the part of Tony's new headache, Joe Pantoliano was quickly hired and Robert Funaro (who as mentioned, was still under contract) was given a new, but lesser role to play instead.
I always wondered why there was no blowback for Eugene beating up Little Paulie like that. He's Paulie's nephew and Paulie lost it when Chris threw him out the window in season 6
Little Paulie wasn't made - and he mouth off to Eugene! Besides, didn't I just see 2 *iggahs run that way?
Honestly he handled his situation the best way a father and husband could.
No the best way would have been not to join the f***ing mob! Once he joined he was in for life.
I agree there was no way out for him. But he knew if he wasn't there his family can get out
Idk, clipping that guy knowing his situation was dumb af.
Me @ 0:44: “heyyyy that’s some guy’s wife come onnn” 😂😂
Eugene: *tells Tony about 2 million dollar inheritance*
UA-cam comments: “Very bad, boys. Very bad.”
Eugene imo should have secretly offered Tony a retirement deal (€1 million cash goes directly to Tony no one else needs to know!).
Eugene could have agreed to be a contact down in Florida so he’d be close but not too close.
Let’s be honest, we all know he’s not the first.
One of the best episodes from the sopranos
I don't see this. If Eugene had stopped cooperating with the FBI they would have just charged him and his son with whatever they had over them and they'd go to prison for a long time. The whole point was he was totally screwed.
He was very well cast for the role - completely believable as a character..
Eugene's biggest error was telling Tony anything. If he would have just taken the money and left one day/never to return, then I am fairly sure Jersey would have thought him dead and blamed NY.
Why do you assume Tony didnt know about the money YEARS before? You think Eugene wouldnt talk about the windfall he expected before his folks kicked it?
There's still the FBI though..
What I am wondering is why the hell didn't he ask the FBI first if he could even move to Florida before bringing it up to Tony? Telling Tony anything about your plans before they are fully developed is a terrible idea.
It was the dumbest thing ever. All he had to do was say he had a package in Fort Lauderdale. That was doing big numbers and send Tony a little bit of scratch every month. And the story you buy your way out.
Best thing for Eugene to have done would be not to mention the inheritance to anyone. Then tell Tony that he developed bronchitis or something and that he wouldn't be able to hang out on New Jersey construction sites in the winter anymore. Ask to be "transferred" to Florida like Ralph was. Since Eugene was a middling earner, Tony might have been convinced to go along with it. Then tell the FBI that Tony ordered it. This would force the FBI's hand. They would have to either let him go and he would become a less valuable informant, being thousands of miles away and running small rackets. Or they would have to arrest him and then he could make the decision whether to testify or not. Maybe it would be better to take 5 or even 10 years to not have to rat. Either way, once he finally got to Florida, he'd have to get some income anyway. He was in his early 40's and 2 mil isn't going to hold a family of 4 forever.
This is all very allegorical.
Always with the scenarios
I really feel like in the mid 2000s it might. Think of all the house he could build and rent out
The pronunciation of ‘malignant’ is sending me 😂😂
I love how you drop random quotes from The Sopranos in every one of your analysis ("Its a freekin ace!") lol
Tony did run it by Uncle June, who said "what are we in? The navy?" Meaning NO.
He should have just used the money to buy a couple of three things.
The first mistake Gene made was thinking that Tony was his friend or altruistic. Telling him about the inheritance then foolishly offering Tony a cut was just a green light for him to bleed him dry while still retaining his services.
Never should've told Tony about the two million dollars. Should've packed up the car, and drove to Mexico or Canada with his family, cash on hand. Fresh start in a new country.
I believe it was that same episode where Eugene and Chrissy both got made - Tony said to them both, "Once you enter this family, there's no getting out." Had he not been cooperating, simply disappearing may have worked; however, if Jersey wouldn't locate him, the Feds eventually would've. Basically, he was trapped and there really was no way out.
Uncle Jr on retirement: "What's this? We're in the Navy?"
His best bet would have have gotten Tony on tape talking about something illegal, but would have to have had something more sophisticated than a running tape recorder and wire. Some kind of custom digital recorder built into a necklace or belt buckle perhaps? That kind of thing existed then, but was expensive... but hey, he's got 2 million dollars, he could pay for it himself if the FBI wouldn't/couldn't.
"Once you enter this family, there's no getting out." Except THAT.
Few things:
He was made at the same time as Christopher because the books were closed for years. Age or paying dues has nothing to do with It.
He was never going to Florida, since the feds told him It wasn’t going to happen. Didn’t matter if Tony allowed him to go.
Eugene could have just left.. by season 6 esp towards the end.. Tony’s crew was basically destroyed. Wouldn’t have mattered. As you stated.. if Tony couldn’t get ahold of Furio or keep tabs on Ralph when he was in Florida.. Tony wouldn’t have given a shit about Eugene after a while..
Gene COULDN'T leave New Jersey. He was working with the Feds, so everything else was rendered moot. Inheritance, no inheritance, tell Tony, don't tell Tony-it didn't matter. Gene could not have left.
When I first watched this, I thought Tony saying "you wanna put some money on the street down there?" was his compromise solution. If EP didn't ignore this, it would've been his shot to not get out, but to keep his distance.
He couldn't have done half of these things because of the fact that he was snitching specifically on the Soprano crew. He couldn't go to Florida. He couldn't go anywhere.
i don't know if it's the case, but he should've lawyered up. With Tony's murder order told to the Feds, they would have had to pull him out and end the case with what they had, enough for RICO and conspiracy to murder to boot. The lawyer would've negotiated for immunity or WP with no prison time to button up his crucial testimony.
What lawyer? Lawyers, DEFENSE, work for FEDS. They take your money you do the time. Claim they got you a good deal
An “A case for Visiting Day” video would be a hit
I'd get out with 2 million
and go where? between the feds and the soprano crew, he’d have to go back to Italy to be safe
If Eugene would have said, “Hey Tone, here’s 200k, let me retire.” Tony would have said, “You know what, why not,” or something close to it.
no, he would hve stuck out his fat fuckin hand wanting more
Eugene wasn’t a hockey player tho …
When was Tony ever okay with loosing income? I find it hard to image he would just say "sure, why not"
@ How would this scenario result in Tony “Losing income?” Tony had no idea and would never know about Eugene’s Aunt Edie dying unless Eugene told him. If he kept that info to himself, there would be no “Taste,” it would just be Eugene buying his way out.
@ Nothing to do with the 2mill. He would loose his regular income from Eugene if he let him go to Florida. OP even said at the start of the video, there is no 'buying your way out' so idk why everyone keeps bringing that up as an option.
Eugene DID try that; "Hey here's a gift, Tone.. btw iv been thinking of moving to Florida..."
Not told anyone. Earn less, make mistakes, become forgotten, slip away.
OMG how come I never thought of Eugene simply keeping the envelopes coming to Tony while he is away in Florida. Its so simple.
I grew up on Ft Myers Beach in the 1980s. When he mentioned Ft. Myers, it was pretty cool.
It's 2 million in the United States. The amount he would need to kickback would run through that money in a couple of years.
Love this channel makes u wana sopranos over and over again such great detail annualised characters of the show fantastic job thanks
Every FBI informant on the show was whacked.
Incompetent and corrupt
One of them died in an agent's car, of being old, I guess lol
I subbed after the quotes you slide in XD
I always thought the crow was for Eugene and not Chris. Chris just saw it and thought ut was for him
Why does your audio always seem to skip? on every video i watch it's as if words are just cut...
See the pinned comment
@CineRanter makes sense!
Eugene's wife was not a good mob wife. You know what this is. You can't go around insisting that he gets out. You shouldn't have married him in the 1st place.
Charmane could complain to Artie about Tony all she wanted. But Artie wast a made guy and Tony, to his credit, kept Artie from veering too close.
i appreciate your videos as I am also a massive Sopranos fan. Thanks you sir.
The answer is no Eugene was talking to the Feds after Raymond had a heart attack and the Feds was the one who made up the idea of him and his family going to Florida. Eugene took his life because he realized he was not only the track of going no where or moving up in Tony crew, but there was many seasons you forgot Eugene was apart of the crew only when you saw him at the construction site with Vito, little Paulie, and Patsy, but he wasn't even a earner in the crew.
Not the "we lead the world in computer data organization" 😂😂😂 Oh and "loyale to his capo" inserted just so was Chefs Kiss 😂😂 Heres one more, in honor of Eugene- his Master's Voiccccce
The crow outside the window may be a reference to Gene's last name. Pontecorvo is the name of a municipality in Italy, literally translating to "Bridge of Crows".
EDIT: Or maybe it's the other way around lol, they included the scene with crow first and then later decided to reference it with his name.
Great video. He was screwed all the way around. If you can, please do a video on how effective Tony would’ve been if he’d included Carmela in his business. She ended up giving him a lot of great advice in the later seasons. She was the boss of the wives. “What are you gonna do?” 😂
Eugene should have just done a Henry Hill... sure there’s no action. He would have to wait around like everyone else. He wouldn't even get decent food. Right after he goes in to witness protection he would order some spaghetti with marinara sauce and instead get egg noodles and ketchup. He would be an average nobody. He would get to live the rest of his life like a schnook.
And no arugula eithet
That didn't exactly work out well for Henry..
I never thought Eugene got some sort of inheritance from a relative. I had always assumed that Eugene just made that up to score points with Tony by giving him “his taste”
That was money straight out of his pocket, giving it to Tony as a “Hey look I got money from a dead relative. I totally didn’t have to tell you about this at all, but I’m giving it to you because I’m such a good earner and I’m loyal. So please let me go to Florida”
Yeah, I think wearing a wire and recording the orders to commit the hit, then bargaining the recording for letting him disappear to the feds would be his smartest play. Feds would get a much higher ranked guy as an informant and Eugene could threaten to destroy the recording unless he got a guarantee in writing that they would cut him loose. Of course, who knows how enforceable that guarantee would be.
His only real hope was to go off the reservation, just straight up packed a bag and never looked back. The problem is he couldn't ask anyone for help because Jersey would have put the screws to whoever helped till they gave him up, and the feds would have found him if he remained in the country. His only hope was to take the money and go somewhere that doesn't have extradition laws.
Tony was a scumbag for even taking his cut from Eugene’s inheritance.
It was pretty delusional to think he’d be allowed to just move to Florida like that. Especially considering the feds had their hooks in him. Felt bad for the little girl. Her dad self deleted, her brother an addict, and her mother was a wreck. That Eugene story in the first episode of the last season really set the stage for how dark it was going to get. By the time they get to Tony , Sil, and Bobby everything was falling apart. Even if he had not lost his life, Tony was going to prison for the rest of his life. Even as an informant he wouldn’t have been out by 75-80 years old.
What should he have done? Not joining the mob in the first place would have been a good starting point.
Fuckin' CYO Basketball,
do you believe that? 🤓🥩🥂
Corvo in Italian means crow and being that there was a crow at the ceremony of him being made, I’m pretty sure there’s some symbolism in there that had more to do with Eugene than Christopher.