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@@wingerding The shit he just said to a guy who knew Tony on a first-face basis was a death sentence. man that bit about the hat in the pink floyd final scene is real interesting. I know it has a bunch of allegories with the first episode. The idea that he was wearing it because he had regressed to basic mob chris is really blowing my mind, here, here, and here.
One thing I’ve noticed is that the word “mafia” is uttered only a few times in the entire show, and when it is, the moment is dramatic, and the mobsters always treat like it’s a giant taboo that has been broken-like that early moment when Meadow asks her dad, “Are you in the mafia?” or that scene later in the series where a therapist tells Carmela her husband is in the mafia, and she bursts into tears. I think this particular moment is similar: you do not want to tell a mafia person to his face that he’s in the mafia, particularly if he’s already pissed at you.
I think Chris was hurt that he was faced with that level of reality all of a sudden, and then he realised something along the lines of "yes I am" and it was just a power move to wipe the dude out like that. It's like, if you going to turn your back on me because of that then you might as well be gone
Oh yeah, of course. Throughout the show, absolutely none of the New Jersey or New York families say the words "mafia" or "mob" or "organized crime". It's an offense of the highest order, primarily as it can be used as the biggest weapon against them by the authorities to admit that what they do even exists. It was why Johnny Sack's admission of it to avoid a trial was so scandalous.
@@XtotheKI remember the same. Especially Phil Leotardo losing it when he hears Johnny admitting his involvement in the Jersey Mob. “You never admit the existence of this thing.”
Maybe I'm oversimplifying this but I think Chris whacked him because he was a gangster with a drug addiction who got drunk and then angry when J.T. wouldn't help him.
Lol you're actually spot on. There's no hidden meaning behind it. Chris was in a bad place, a really bad place, and he was extremely vulnerable. So insulting a drunk and deadly gangster while he's very emotional wasn't the best idea. Especially considering how much of a sensitive hothead Chris already was.
1) Chris was intoxicated 2) Chris was angry because he'd been humiliated earlier at the party 3) Chris resented JT because JT actually was a talented script writer 4) Chris was a bully and he had already crossed the line twice with JT (by getting physical with him) 5) Chris resented people in the film / television industry (Ben Kingsley, Jon Favreau, and JT Dolan) as they're part of a world that he would never be able to break into 5) Chris resented the idea that JT seemed to be getting his life in order while his was spiralling out of control again (due to the relapse) 6) When JT states "Chris, you're in the mafia" he was trying to establish some boundaries with Chris and this was unacceptable to him as Chris was used to being the one in control (typical behaviour of a narcissistic sociopath). 7) Chris would have rationalised killing JT ("he knew too much" etc.)
JT was Christopher's Davey. Davey was a varsity athlete, Tony never had the makings of one. JT was a successful writer, Christopher never had the makings of an Emmy winning writer, or even of a person with good artistic taste. They both used their gambling debt as leverage over someone they would never actually be better than.
To be fair, Tony tried to discourage Davey from gambling, and only relented after he refused to be turned away. Chris offered to take JT's action the very first time that he even mentioned an interest in gambling
I always liked to think it was because J.T., a screenwriter, a real filmmaker, by saying that, implicitly reminded Chris that he will never be seen as an artist, let alone a peer. That no matter how much Chris struggles and cries, no matter how much he passionately bleats about filmmaking, he will only be seen and known as one thing. And not as a filmmaker.
There was literally a mobster who helped with the making of Casino though. So that’s absolute bullshit 😂. You seem to pretend Hollywood hasn’t profited off the crime genre for 80 years. Like Hollyweird doesn’t have its own demons and especially kid diddlers 😂 “artist” 🤣
Christopher exploited JT's other addiction gambling and ruined their friendship. Treating him the same as all of the other deadbeats and throwing him a beating for late payments and forcing him to write scripts for him and then giving him no credit for the scripts.Then he came back pouring his heart out to him like they have some great friendship. He went to JT basically because he was his only non mafia friend he could talk to and was becoming alienated from the other guys. I think his decision to kill him was a snap decision he was just angry when he realized JT didn't see him as a friend and then he realized he maybe had told him too much about his mob doings.
@@orangewarm1 He didn't really tell him anything but he drunkenly was blathering on about knowing things about mafia murders and people who disappeared and how one phone call from him to the FBI and the whole castle comes down or something like that.
Chris killed JT Dolan because he saw an episode of Wings, and know he would turn his gangster story into a quirky comedy, which made Chrissy feel he needed to cut ties with him before he gets embarrassed 😭😭
The real reason Christopher killed JT Dolan was because Christopher was at a point where he had to choose whether or not he was going to be fully in or fully out of the mafia Christopher chose in. JT served as Christopher's served as a Christopher's only real link to a legitimate life outside of the mafia as well as one of Chris's only real friends outside of the mob life. Chris killing JT served as his point of no return. It was the first time he murdered a friend in cold blood and felt nothing. Even Adriana's death had a little bit of sympathy because Chris didn't want to do it and he knew that her flipping could hurt a lot of people but not here. Killing JT was the point where Chris truly lost his soul.
I think he did it because when JT said "Christopher you're in the mafia" it was the last time he could bear being told in essense that he can never truly realize and live his dream as a movie guy. So he shoots him as a soldification that he will never try again. He finally gives up on that dream and even kills it in that moment by killing JT. He kills his dream, ultimately.
Lots of reasons. A big one is. Chris is just a bad guy haha Part of the reason the show is so good. Is every main character is evil. But the writing makes us like them.
@@Bctass Vito is heading back to Jersey, he is crying. Drinking and driving, listening to Sinatras "I did it my way". Crashes into a car that is parked on the road. The owner is a civilian who was parked there temporarily to pick up his mail, he insists that they call the police to get proper documentation of the incident for the insurance company etc. Vito shoots him in the back of the head and takes off.
@@hawk66100he shot his “friend” in cold blood in the head. He turned in his fiancé to Tony. He’s a full on sociopath. His emotions are only for himself.
This is what made me stop feeling sorry for Chris. Before this it felt like he was almost forced into the mob and just didn’t have a choice. Chris was just as bad as Tony. After this he got everything he deserved.
I knew it was over for Chris when he lied about taking Tony's real estate goomar and going on a heroin binge with her. That's one thing Tony as a narcissistic sociopath cant stand is someone having something he cant have. He ran into his business partner's bedroom and beat him with a belt over his Russian goomar. After he had just told the man, I don't care who you sleep with.
I like to think he killed him because this was the first and unfortunately last time that JT didn’t fold for him. At that point, Chris did nothing but make his life miserable. He beat him, he forced him to write a movie against his will, and he made him take all the credit for the Tony inspired character because he wasn’t man enough to do it himself. JT was disgusted at the fact that he would even try to gain sympathy from him after all the horrible things that Chris did to him.
Dolan does seem to want to help Chris even in that last scene, though. Trouble is, the tough love approach Dolan uses just antagonizes Chris to the point of murder.
That guy brought himself pain and misery trying to buddy up to a criminal and getting in debt to his criminal organization. I mean who goes to gamble money they don’t have at a mafia place? Who does that? People looking for pain and misery, they might not know they are, but it’s definitely the trouble they want.
Maybe he was? If you imagine he was a rat in the final episode then this would explain what led him to being picked up. Had connections to JT, Bullet casing, prints and the fact Christopher was drunk means he wouldn't have covered it up well
Once He Made That Movie Script For Chris And That Movie Made More Than A Million Which Paid Off The $60.000 Debt He Owes Him...Chris Should've Left Him Alone Completely.
@brandonsalisbury7182 Why You Think Chris Approached Him With An Proposal??? He Was Giving Him The Option To Pay Off The $60K And Knowing JT Writes Scripts, He Could Write An Script For A Movie And That Would Cover Everything Which It Did. The Movie "Cleaver" Made Over A Million Which Was Pocket Change To Whatever JT Owe Left Of The $60.000. JT Didn't Even Want Any Writing Credit Of The Movie, He Gave The Credit All To Chris Which He Was Able To Get All The Money Plus What's Left Of The $60.000 JT Owes Him. JT Didn't Care Though, He Just Wanted Chris To Leave Him Alone And Was Glad He Was Off The Hook Once That $60K Is Paid I'm Full. At That Point, JT Didn't No Longer Owe Him Anything. Should've Just Left Him Be, He Fulfilled His Obligation To The Debt He Owes.
Chris was hugely disenchanted with the mafia life and was looking to JT Dolan for support as a real friend, and also as an emotional catalyst to leave the mobster life. Chris was at rock bottom and wanted compassion and real friendship from JT at that moment. Chris even "opened" up to him (in his strung-out state) about the things he had gone through. Not only did JT understandably want nothing to do with this, but he was cold to Chris's overall need of real friendship, and reminded Chris that he was a mobster instead of embracing him as a real person. JT literally says, "Chris, you're in the mafia!" When JT declares this Chris realizes he was too far down the mafia rabbit-hole and incapable of having real friendships outside of it. Chris realizes this in saying, "you're right!" and literally kills any chance of leaving the life... not to mention the fact that he told JT incriminating secrets so he had to at that point.
Looking at it from Chris's point of view this interaction was devastating for him, JT proved to be someone who not only wasn't a real friend, but who could never be his friend because he is "in the Mafia". He rebuffs Chris and puts distance between them, much worse than what the Jersey Mob had done to Chris prior to this, when they all disrespected and laughed at him. He no longer trusted JT and had someone who wasn't a made guy to easily take all his pent up anger and sense of betrayal out on. After he shoots JT we see a slight smile on Chris's face as it had given him some sense of relief and revenge.
09:00 "JT Dolan was Chris's dream dying." Perfect, CR! This was one of your best analysis. JT was the fantasy Chris had of himself. A recovered addict with a beautiful fiancé (who was tall, statuesque and looked like a model similar to Adriana), and a successful screen writing career. When slapped in the face with reality ("We are NOT friends. You are a predator using me."), the dream was dead. This person, was no longer a person to this sociopath, and therefore had to be killed. He was no longer an imaginary friend. He was a liability who knew too much. Chris was a sociopath. We mist never forget that. The character was evil. Not a hero.
I always took this as "Oh crap, you know Im in the mafia and you aren't supposed to know that." I believe if he hadnt pointed it out he'd stil be alive.
It always amazes me how little self-preservation JT had in his last scene. Even if you couldn't care less about what Chris tells you, considering his emotional state and ties to organized crime you would at least listen to him and comfort him. And obviously not antagonize him xD I guess JT didn't realize he could actually get whacked.
I think he felt a certain entitlement that the reality of their relationship can't support. I think it's why he decided he was gonna be the exception, even though Chrissy didn't treat him with friendship or respect.
As an obsessed sopranos fan I fkn love your videos. Always adding layers that I never noticed or the psychology of why it happened. Very impressive my guy, keep it up.
I feel like he didn't set out to kill him at first. I think when JT mentioned him being in the mafia. I think it reminded Chris what life he choose/his regrets. it was too much at that point to handle and he just blasted him. It almost seemed like it was out of spite. "Oh I'm in the mafia? Well let me show you mafia"
he killed him because that line from jt made him realise he spilled all his guts to a civillian who could go to the police, or even tony himself, for all chrissy knew lol
Best gunman on the show jackies idiot friend at the card game grab bag palmice shawn gismanti jt even rock throwing he nailed tht waiter when he paid a huge bill w minnimal tip
This issue wasn't that deep for people familiar with the actual underworld. Chris killed JT because, when you work for the Mafia, your account is not finished until YOU are dead. They feel like you are forever due to their issues, and JT was like, "I don't want to mess with you." And "I have moved on and am involved in other things." Chris simply closed out his account. The smarter play for JT would've been to play along that night, then LEAVE TOWN. Take note. This applies (loosely) to the Cartel, Yakuza, Bravka and the Crips.
Beautifully said. I always wondered why he did this. I thought it was jealousy. He wasn't beholden to the mob and could live free despite his "sins". I understood JT didn't want to be his "ear" after all that had been done.
Telling Chris that he was in the Mafia made him realise how trapped he was and he was never getting out. He thought he could write screenplays and ride off into the sunset. That just isn't how it works.
damn...this sopranos show....was/is great art work....watching it for the first time i was hooked...but going back on it now...with someone like this guy narrating and giving us the subliminal cryptic messages....wow.....human genius on the part of david chase and his writers....smfh....this could not had been brought out in a movie...it needed a series....television series for millions at home to watch on a weekly basis and talk about it at work the following day....(and years to come) back in 2004...i subscribed to hbo just for the sopranos....just to catch up to the first 5 seasons i missed but only getting a few of it here or their because i didn't have cable.
"the sacred & the propane". 🤣 I don't think anyone caught that. Specifically ran to the comments to see. You pack so much into each video. Keep up the good work.
Cinerant's analysis is spot on, as usual. Only thing I can hope to add is that Chris has a temper problem: He shot the donut guy for the fun of it, he threw a brick in the back of a waiter's head (granted, that guy is supposed to have pills for that) but the point being is that Christopher was a victim, like Tony in the long run, of his impetuous vices. He doesn't like controlling his temper. Us civilians, we'd love to pop someone who cut us off in traffic but we restrain ourselves like the pussies we are but Chris and Tony don't have to do that. It's one of the privileges of "The Life". Dolan rejected Chrissie, even in the most polite way, and Chris shot him because he could. As simple as that. Granted, everything else CinemaRant says is spot on and certainly sealed Dolan's fate. That said, if Dolan had just smiled and said you have a point, invited Chris to sit down for coffee, and let Chris go he'd be alive today. Chris would have died tragically in a car crash soon afterwards and nobody would have bothered him again. Heck, he'd have wonderful stories to mine for scripts the rest of Tony's family disappeared. Lesson learned: Sometimes the best thing to do with dangerous people is let them be and find their fate somewhere else.
The straw that broke the camel nose’s back hahahaha I swear to god, it’s the abundance of quotes / reworkings of quotes just wildly thrown in to these otherwise academic analyses that makes this channel so great. Cracks me up.
It’s sad to realize that The Sopranos characters, despite the superficial community they have, are actually all quite lonely. Few of them have anybody they can talk honestly and vulnerably with. That’s why they cling to anyone they think can fill that role. Chris and JT. Tony and Dr Melfi. Adrianna and the FBI Agents. Paulie and Johnny Sack. Carmela and the Priest. Everyone is just desperate for someone to talk to honestly and without judgement.
Same reason he punched the guy in his acting class. He lashes out when he gets emotional. In this case, JT knew enough to justify Chris killing him. “We always have the option”.🔫
What happened to Chris at the end of the season is the same thing he inflicted on Dolan, he enabled him, made him an addict again, humiliated him, beat him and dehumanized him, then finally killed him. Chris got hit by Karma.
Because he was a man-baby. He beat the guy up before but expects him to be available at all hours and coddle a murderer. He used to beat Adrianna, set her up, unlived that waiter, shot the kid at the bakery, etc. He was a terrible person. Although he had the funniest line of the show about how the Russians apt looked terrible lol
Such beautiful analysis at various levels, and ofc including all that Sopranos vernacular. Congrats. What a show when one can still find layers of meaning after so long... Masterpiece.
This is really well done! Thank you for this video. I never thought much about it but every angle you show is exactly every way I can imagine it going. Even the still photos you can see their souls staring at each other. Quite eerie. Kudos sir
Well written, that's a subscription from me. Altho it could've been a 30s video: JT made a simple error, he has cutten ties at the worst moment. You don't unleash a dog when his mouth is foaming. It's kinda funny more than tragic imo, because it's like chrissy proved his point. The last half second from him was like he just realized what he said. He just didn't know what it meant until then. Because, despite everything, he still wanted to think that chris was a regular human being. By then, he should've known. A simple mistake we can all make tho.
At this point Chris realised he didn't have any real friends, prior to this the whole Jersey mob had showed they had zero respect or care for him, as they all laughed at him. Then JT snubbed him "Chris, you're in the Mafia", he realised he wasn't a real friend, he actually had nothing in common with him and Chris stopped trusting him with what he knew about Jersey. So he shot JT as a final straw of anger, frustration and a sense of betrayal and abandonment. The fact is he could take all his anger out on JT as he wasn't a made guy and because he knew too much and couldn't be trusted.
always thought it was a kind of clever role reversal thing; JT offers Chris no humanity at all when C is being open honest and real...all JT had to do was just be a friend, sit and listen while C vented, got it out of his system, but no. A demonstration of low emotional IQ and JT pays for it.
In 1992 I took a horrible job as a manager at a rent to own in eastside Fort Worth. My customers were often packing and my employees probably had a gun in their car. I took a different tone then usual
From season one to season three it changed so much with the quality with stories and the way it was filmed by the last season everythin was dark lighting
Honestly, thanks to your channel, I understand the whole Sopranos story better. I never paid attention to JT and his story. It's good to broaden your horizons. Speaking of which, your second channel where you comment on books is excellent.
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Chris whacked JT because he’s weak, he’s outta control, and he’s become an embarrassment to himself.. and everybody else.
His hair was in the toilet water, disgusting.
@@alexmajax I can vouch he was sick.
@@WVUer21
I said my piece Chrissy.
In light of recent humiliations ...
I know for a fact he was high at Tony's mother's funeral
I remember when chris used to wait in the car. And as far am im concerned he should STILL BE THERE!
So what, everyone’s got a GOD DAMNED OPINION?!
Johnny calm down.
@@baraklee1659 You know how wine makes him emotional...
@@alexmuenster2102 I think he’s just mad because Ginny Sack is getting a 95 pound mole removed from her ass
chrissy r some body like chris should pay you a visit mr smart ass
Because HE WAS IN THE MAFIA
Came here to comment this - too bad I was late.
I remember when he used to wait in the car tho
As far as Johnny Sack is concerned… he should still be there!
Was he barking?
😂
He also realised that he'd just told his entire criminal life story to a CIVILIAN who could flip at any time and completely ruin him. He had to go.
Social club? He's gotta GO!
@@teamtwiistz😂😂😂
I don't think he cared about that, he could be very easily taken care of. Him knowing things wasn't much of a threat.
@@wingerding The shit he just said to a guy who knew Tony on a first-face basis was a death sentence. man that bit about the hat in the pink floyd final scene is real interesting. I know it has a bunch of allegories with the first episode. The idea that he was wearing it because he had regressed to basic mob chris is really blowing my mind, here, here, and here.
@@teamtwiistz You gonna take care of his screenplays?! Huh?!
One thing I’ve noticed is that the word “mafia” is uttered only a few times in the entire show, and when it is, the moment is dramatic, and the mobsters always treat like it’s a giant taboo that has been broken-like that early moment when Meadow asks her dad, “Are you in the mafia?” or that scene later in the series where a therapist tells Carmela her husband is in the mafia, and she bursts into tears. I think this particular moment is similar: you do not want to tell a mafia person to his face that he’s in the mafia, particularly if he’s already pissed at you.
I think Chris was hurt that he was faced with that level of reality all of a sudden, and then he realised something along the lines of "yes I am" and it was just a power move to wipe the dude out like that. It's like, if you going to turn your back on me because of that then you might as well be gone
why does it hurt them? is it a derogatory word?
Oh yeah, of course. Throughout the show, absolutely none of the New Jersey or New York families say the words "mafia" or "mob" or "organized crime". It's an offense of the highest order, primarily as it can be used as the biggest weapon against them by the authorities to admit that what they do even exists. It was why Johnny Sack's admission of it to avoid a trial was so scandalous.
Please refresh my memory- who was "the parade float who killed the guy whose car he crashed into"?
@@XtotheKI remember the same. Especially Phil Leotardo losing it when he hears Johnny admitting his involvement in the Jersey Mob. “You never admit the existence of this thing.”
Maybe I'm oversimplifying this but I think Chris whacked him because he was a gangster with a drug addiction who got drunk and then angry when J.T. wouldn't help him.
you took the words, brother
@deathofamailman Sharp as a freakin' cue ball this one...
Lol you're actually spot on. There's no hidden meaning behind it. Chris was in a bad place, a really bad place, and he was extremely vulnerable. So insulting a drunk and deadly gangster while he's very emotional wasn't the best idea. Especially considering how much of a sensitive hothead Chris already was.
Haha
Most times the simplest explanation is the right one 👍
1) Chris was intoxicated
2) Chris was angry because he'd been humiliated earlier at the party
3) Chris resented JT because JT actually was a talented script writer
4) Chris was a bully and he had already crossed the line twice with JT (by getting physical with him)
5) Chris resented people in the film / television industry (Ben Kingsley, Jon Favreau, and JT Dolan) as they're part of a world that he would never be able to break into
5) Chris resented the idea that JT seemed to be getting his life in order while his was spiralling out of control again (due to the relapse)
6) When JT states "Chris, you're in the mafia" he was trying to establish some boundaries with Chris and this was unacceptable to him as Chris was used to being the one in control (typical behaviour of a narcissistic sociopath).
7) Chris would have rationalised killing JT ("he knew too much" etc.)
8) She was a hoowah
9) he hit him first
That pretty much sums it up.
@@smavi4133i heard she fell?
^this
JT was Christopher's Davey. Davey was a varsity athlete, Tony never had the makings of one. JT was a successful writer, Christopher never had the makings of an Emmy winning writer, or even of a person with good artistic taste. They both used their gambling debt as leverage over someone they would never actually be better than.
@@MK-yv7jn freaking JT.. he’s dyslexic
Also, JT could have actually been a success as a male model. Whereas Chrissy is average, at best
To be fair, Tony tried to discourage Davey from gambling, and only relented after he refused to be turned away. Chris offered to take JT's action the very first time that he even mentioned an interest in gambling
Very allegorical take.
@@ResistanceQuestThat natural canopy isn’t helping either
I always liked to think it was because J.T., a screenwriter, a real filmmaker, by saying that, implicitly reminded Chris that he will never be seen as an artist, let alone a peer. That no matter how much Chris struggles and cries, no matter how much he passionately bleats about filmmaking, he will only be seen and known as one thing.
And not as a filmmaker.
Correct
There was literally a mobster who helped with the making of Casino though. So that’s absolute bullshit 😂. You seem to pretend Hollywood hasn’t profited off the crime genre for 80 years. Like Hollyweird doesn’t have its own demons and especially kid diddlers 😂 “artist” 🤣
“Chris! You’re in the shinebox!” - JT
Like fing mirrors
“It happens.”
"....break up MY f%ckin' puahr-tee..."
Dick Wolf gave the go ahead...it was real screen actors stuff and there was nothing we could do about it.
Christopher exploited JT's other addiction gambling and ruined their friendship. Treating him the same as all of the other deadbeats and throwing him a beating for late payments and forcing him to write scripts for him and then giving him no credit for the scripts.Then he came back pouring his heart out to him like they have some great friendship.
He went to JT basically because he was his only non mafia friend he could talk to and was becoming alienated from the other guys. I think his decision to kill him was a snap decision he was just angry when he realized JT didn't see him as a friend and then he realized he maybe had told him too much about his mob doings.
told him what?
@@orangewarm1 He didn't really tell him anything but he drunkenly was blathering on about knowing things about mafia murders and people who disappeared and how one phone call from him to the FBI and the whole castle comes down or something like that.
“Big dreams-and an even bigger nose” 😂😂😂
a 7 at best.
the only guy who can smoke a cigarette in the rain.
natural canape.
@@joeyjojoe9459 as a male nose model... he'd probably be a success
He reminds me of peoples feet!
He should have said "Christopher, you're in that thing of yours"
"chris, get it together man! Now, go home, drink some coffee, have a cold shower, and go get your ****ing shinebox!"
When he heard the words “Chris your in the mafia” he immediately realized he told him too much
what knowledge did he have of the NJ operations? NIL.
@@orangewarm1 he was loan sharked beat up and forced to write cleaver you think if the fbi approached him he wouldn’t testify?
@@orangewarm1 even just knowing he’s connected is too much
You never admit the existence of this thing! EVER!!!
@@Jmar1024Lotta money in that shit 👷♂️
I felt Chrissy was lowkey Jealous of him
Absolutely!
And in love with him.
both of these replies, as a combo, are 100pct correct
@@dougfraser77a fucking finook?
@@dougfraser77 no
Because JT Dolan didn't offer him a soft drinks of choice.
He felt like he was stabbed in the haart
@@MoralesCorner Right? How much more betrayal can he take?
And a sandwich!
@@Invisfire777 sangweech
Or a Veal Parm Sandwich
Chris had an arc. He started by killing Email and ended by killing J.T.
You know who else had an arc?!
@@nick3777 Noah!
And I really LIKED email.......well, er-not really
Chris killed JT Dolan because he saw an episode of Wings, and know he would turn his gangster story into a quirky comedy, which made Chrissy feel he needed to cut ties with him before he gets embarrassed 😭😭
That “Uncle Philly my ass” at the beginning made me bust up in public
"The straw that broke the camel nose back "😅 - great writing - you can't make that sh*t up!
The fuck you talking about he just did!
@@loganstroganoff1284dammit you beat me to it
Slip and fall school
@@loganstroganoff1284
hhhhh was gonna write it
Can you imagine writing “the straw that broke the camel nose’s back”? 🦜
The real reason Christopher killed JT Dolan was because Christopher was at a point where he had to choose whether or not he was going to be fully in or fully out of the mafia Christopher chose in. JT served as Christopher's served as a Christopher's only real link to a legitimate life outside of the mafia as well as one of Chris's only real friends outside of the mob life. Chris killing JT served as his point of no return. It was the first time he murdered a friend in cold blood and felt nothing. Even Adriana's death had a little bit of sympathy because Chris didn't want to do it and he knew that her flipping could hurt a lot of people but not here. Killing JT was the point where Chris truly lost his soul.
The closeup of the natural canopy 🤣🤣🤣
Hahahaha 😂😂😂
I think he did it because when JT said "Christopher you're in the mafia" it was the last time he could bear being told in essense that he can never truly realize and live his dream as a movie guy. So he shoots him as a soldification that he will never try again. He finally gives up on that dream and even kills it in that moment by killing JT. He kills his dream, ultimately.
Lots of reasons. A big one is. Chris is just a bad guy haha
Part of the reason the show is so good. Is every main character is evil. But the writing makes us like them.
That’s a really good point about the characters killing an innocent person, before getting killed themselves.
Sorry but I don't remember " the parade float kills the guy whose car he crashes into "
Eugene also kills that guy in restaurant in "self defense".
@@Bctass Vito is heading back to Jersey, he is crying. Drinking and driving, listening to Sinatras "I did it my way". Crashes into a car that is parked on the road. The owner is a civilian who was parked there temporarily to pick up his mail, he insists that they call the police to get proper documentation of the incident for the insurance company etc. Vito shoots him in the back of the head and takes off.
@@abhilashyadav2274bacala does his first hit before dying to not sire how soon tho
@@gmb7999 Very soon after that. You're right. 👍
Chris is also sociopathic
I disagree. I think Chris had emotions like a normal person where as Tony was very clearly a sociopath in the way he manipulated people.
He felt like he was stabbed in the heart
@dr.daredvil612 Yes he clearly did. Did you even watch the show Kemosabe??
@dr.daredvil612I can agree with that. I never said he was a good person or that he didn’t deserve punishment.
@@hawk66100he shot his “friend” in cold blood in the head. He turned in his fiancé to Tony. He’s a full on sociopath. His emotions are only for himself.
This is what made me stop feeling sorry for Chris. Before this it felt like he was almost forced into the mob and just didn’t have a choice. Chris was just as bad as Tony. After this he got everything he deserved.
The abused often go on to be abusers.
I knew it was over for Chris when he lied about taking Tony's real estate goomar and going on a heroin binge with her. That's one thing Tony as a narcissistic sociopath cant stand is someone having something he cant have. He ran into his business partner's bedroom and beat him with a belt over his Russian goomar. After he had just told the man, I don't care who you sleep with.
2:27 Nah, that zoom-in is already killing me 😂
I died 🤣 rewinded that shit back twice
I like to think he killed him because this was the first and unfortunately last time that JT didn’t fold for him. At that point, Chris did nothing but make his life miserable. He beat him, he forced him to write a movie against his will, and he made him take all the credit for the Tony inspired character because he wasn’t man enough to do it himself. JT was disgusted at the fact that he would even try to gain sympathy from him after all the horrible things that Chris did to him.
Well said
Dolan does seem to want to help Chris even in that last scene, though. Trouble is, the tough love approach Dolan uses just antagonizes Chris to the point of murder.
@@robertbusek30
JT casts tough love spell
Christufa uses pistol potion
JT: *damage 100*
He probably should have just humored Chris and heard him out. It’s likely after Chris would’ve left and JT would’ve survived.
And after all of that, Chris still ends up taking him out. I don't understand why Chris isn't a hated character. I absolutely despise him
This guy was a lead in a HUGE 90s tv show, Wings. Loved his character here in The Sopranos.
He’s also superman in the dcau which is pretty cool considering that he probably just finished that role considering the timing
Also the lead in Stephen king's tv adaptation of the storm of the century!
Imperioli has such a haunting, powerful face
He does, I was a kid but when I saw him as Spider in Goodfellas, I thought he had a powerful look about him. Wish he worked more
Christopher was a wise guy with big dreams, and an even bigger nose... I just spit my fucking drink out 😂😂😂😂
Natural canopy. Whatever happened there
Christopher just brought pain and misery to that poor fucker's life, only to end up taking him out too. The whole arc is very tragic
There was never a happy ending for Christopha
That guy brought himself pain and misery trying to buddy up to a criminal and getting in debt to his criminal organization. I mean who goes to gamble money they don’t have at a mafia place? Who does that? People looking for pain and misery, they might not know they are, but it’s definitely the trouble they want.
@@Varangian_Axechris also brought himself pain and misery. And the same thing he inflicted to JT Dolan hapoened to him
@@Varangian_Axedid you even watch you video?
“Ostrafied” LOL
I really wanted Chris arrested after this
Lmao why?
@@brandoncoleman673 I liked law and order
@@PicaPauDiablo1 Fair enough
@@PicaPauDiablo1SUV
Maybe he was? If you imagine he was a rat in the final episode then this would explain what led him to being picked up. Had connections to JT, Bullet casing, prints and the fact Christopher was drunk means he wouldn't have covered it up well
He was butthurt that Dolan wasn't open to him, when it was he , Chris, who created the distance. Dolan was a great AA supportive person at first.
He was after being vulnerable in front of him, was feeling self loathing over this and decided to kill him in a moment of madness.
Once He Made That Movie Script For Chris And That Movie Made More Than A Million Which Paid Off The $60.000 Debt He Owes Him...Chris Should've Left Him Alone Completely.
@@antoineraymond9301good point! Crazy how this show is still being talked about till this day! I
@brandonsalisbury7182 Why You Think Chris Approached Him With An Proposal??? He Was Giving Him The Option To Pay Off The $60K And Knowing JT Writes Scripts, He Could Write An Script For A Movie And That Would Cover Everything Which It Did. The Movie "Cleaver" Made Over A Million Which Was Pocket Change To Whatever JT Owe Left Of The $60.000. JT Didn't Even Want Any Writing Credit Of The Movie, He Gave The Credit All To Chris Which He Was Able To Get All The Money Plus What's Left Of The $60.000 JT Owes Him. JT Didn't Care Though, He Just Wanted Chris To Leave Him Alone And Was Glad He Was Off The Hook Once That $60K Is Paid I'm Full. At That Point, JT Didn't No Longer Owe Him Anything. Should've Just Left Him Be, He Fulfilled His Obligation To The Debt He Owes.
Chris was hugely disenchanted with the mafia life and was looking to JT Dolan for support as a real friend, and also as an emotional catalyst to leave the mobster life. Chris was at rock bottom and wanted compassion and real friendship from JT at that moment. Chris even "opened" up to him (in his strung-out state) about the things he had gone through. Not only did JT understandably want nothing to do with this, but he was cold to Chris's overall need of real friendship, and reminded Chris that he was a mobster instead of embracing him as a real person. JT literally says, "Chris, you're in the mafia!" When JT declares this Chris realizes he was too far down the mafia rabbit-hole and incapable of having real friendships outside of it. Chris realizes this in saying, "you're right!" and literally kills any chance of leaving the life... not to mention the fact that he told JT incriminating secrets so he had to at that point.
Looking at it from Chris's point of view this interaction was devastating for him, JT proved to be someone who not only wasn't a real friend, but who could never be his friend because he is "in the Mafia". He rebuffs Chris and puts distance between them, much worse than what the Jersey Mob had done to Chris prior to this, when they all disrespected and laughed at him. He no longer trusted JT and had someone who wasn't a made guy to easily take all his pent up anger and sense of betrayal out on. After he shoots JT we see a slight smile on Chris's face as it had given him some sense of relief and revenge.
Really good analysis!
Because he wouldn't write another episode of Law and Order the SUV
trying to get that Dick Wolf money.
That's Tim Daly, so Christopher just killed Superman!
Thought he was a pilot
I thought he was Dr. Jekyll and Ms. Hyde.
09:00 "JT Dolan was Chris's dream dying."
Perfect, CR! This was one of your best analysis.
JT was the fantasy Chris had of himself. A recovered addict with a beautiful fiancé (who was tall, statuesque and looked like a model similar to Adriana), and a successful screen writing career.
When slapped in the face with reality ("We are NOT friends. You are a predator using me."), the dream was dead.
This person, was no longer a person to this sociopath, and therefore had to be killed.
He was no longer an imaginary friend. He was a liability who knew too much.
Chris was a sociopath. We mist never forget that. The character was evil. Not a hero.
Chrissy warned him to never get snippy on him again. And he did. Simple as that
foo busts late drunk asf crying id tell him off too tf 😂
I always took this as "Oh crap, you know Im in the mafia and you aren't supposed to know that." I believe if he hadnt pointed it out he'd stil be alive.
It always amazes me how little self-preservation JT had in his last scene. Even if you couldn't care less about what Chris tells you, considering his emotional state and ties to organized crime you would at least listen to him and comfort him. And obviously not antagonize him xD I guess JT didn't realize he could actually get whacked.
I think he felt a certain entitlement that the reality of their relationship can't support. I think it's why he decided he was gonna be the exception, even though Chrissy didn't treat him with friendship or respect.
Great video man!!! I love how you effortlessly put Sopranos quotes into your dialogue.
As an obsessed sopranos fan I fkn love your videos. Always adding layers that I never noticed or the psychology of why it happened. Very impressive my guy, keep it up.
That's why I've been a (unpaid) member for like two years
@@ResistanceQuest So in your opinion I need to be a paying subscriber in order to give props to the channel?? Isn’t that what patreon is for
Chris killed Dolan because it’s a reference to Goodfellas when Spider gets killed for standing up to Tommy
It happens.
@@hankgonzalez6074whatever happened there
I feel like he didn't set out to kill him at first. I think when JT mentioned him being in the mafia. I think it reminded Chris what life he choose/his regrets. it was too much at that point to handle and he just blasted him. It almost seemed like it was out of spite. "Oh I'm in the mafia? Well let me show you mafia"
Because Chris was unhinged..
he killed him because that line from jt made him realise he spilled all his guts to a civillian who could go to the police, or even tony himself, for all chrissy knew lol
Christopher was a sniper with that pistol
Best gunman on the show jackies idiot friend at the card game grab bag palmice shawn gismanti jt even rock throwing he nailed tht waiter when he paid a huge bill w minnimal tip
@@gmb7999 don’t forget the vvviper from a moving car
@@Spaghetto7 I GOT HIM I FUCKIN GOT HIM WOOOHOOO 🤠
@@Spaghetto7we’re with da wiperszzz
Christopher should just be a hitman, instead of attempting to be some high profile wiseguy.
A room full of Writers!!
These videos are always on point with the analysis, sharp as a cue ball.
This issue wasn't that deep for people familiar with the actual underworld.
Chris killed JT because, when you work for the Mafia,
your account is not finished until YOU are dead.
They feel like you are forever due to their issues, and JT was like, "I don't want to mess with you."
And "I have moved on and am involved in other things."
Chris simply closed out his account.
The smarter play for JT would've been to play along that night,
then LEAVE TOWN.
Take note.
This applies (loosely) to the Cartel, Yakuza, Bravka and the Crips.
Beautifully said. I always wondered why he did this. I thought it was jealousy. He wasn't beholden to the mob and could live free despite his "sins". I understood JT didn't want to be his "ear" after all that had been done.
Telling Chris that he was in the Mafia made him realise how trapped he was and he was never getting out. He thought he could write screenplays and ride off into the sunset. That just isn't how it works.
“There ain’t no retiring from dis thing.” -Tony Soprano.
when gangsters and mafiosos say "in it for life" they mean it!
Damn Chris…you got the whole squad laughing
"propane, propane - it's time to start the game" (Mr. Lahey)
He couldn't put up with thew shitspeech.
Sacred and the propane
damn...this sopranos show....was/is great art work....watching it for the first time i was hooked...but going back on it now...with someone like this guy narrating and giving us the subliminal cryptic messages....wow.....human genius on the part of david chase and his writers....smfh....this could not had been brought out in a movie...it needed a series....television series for millions at home to watch on a weekly basis and talk about it at work the following day....(and years to come) back in 2004...i subscribed to hbo just for the sopranos....just to catch up to the first 5 seasons i missed but only getting a few of it here or their because i didn't have cable.
You know who had an arc?
*Noah*
Chris looks eerily similar to an actual Law & Order actor, Michael Imperioli.
"the sacred & the propane". 🤣 I don't think anyone caught that. Specifically ran to the comments to see. You pack so much into each video. Keep up the good work.
you're not the only one with ears
Cinerant's analysis is spot on, as usual. Only thing I can hope to add is that Chris has a temper problem: He shot the donut guy for the fun of it, he threw a brick in the back of a waiter's head (granted, that guy is supposed to have pills for that) but the point being is that Christopher was a victim, like Tony in the long run, of his impetuous vices. He doesn't like controlling his temper. Us civilians, we'd love to pop someone who cut us off in traffic but we restrain ourselves like the pussies we are but Chris and Tony don't have to do that. It's one of the privileges of "The Life". Dolan rejected Chrissie, even in the most polite way, and Chris shot him because he could. As simple as that. Granted, everything else CinemaRant says is spot on and certainly sealed Dolan's fate.
That said, if Dolan had just smiled and said you have a point, invited Chris to sit down for coffee, and let Chris go he'd be alive today. Chris would have died tragically in a car crash soon afterwards and nobody would have bothered him again. Heck, he'd have wonderful stories to mine for scripts the rest of Tony's family disappeared.
Lesson learned: Sometimes the best thing to do with dangerous people is let them be and find their fate somewhere else.
The straw that broke the camel nose’s back hahahaha
I swear to god, it’s the abundance of quotes / reworkings of quotes just wildly thrown in to these otherwise academic analyses that makes this channel so great. Cracks me up.
The amount of inside jokes in these videos is so funny. I legit laugh out loud multiple times.
but his delivery is crap lol
@@regidon6816facts this dude sounds like an Arab
@@regidon6816 I'm pretty sure English is his 2nd language, that'd explain a lot.
It’s sad to realize that The Sopranos characters, despite the superficial community they have, are actually all quite lonely. Few of them have anybody they can talk honestly and vulnerably with. That’s why they cling to anyone they think can fill that role. Chris and JT. Tony and Dr Melfi. Adrianna and the FBI Agents. Paulie and Johnny Sack. Carmela and the Priest. Everyone is just desperate for someone to talk to honestly and without judgement.
Same reason he punched the guy in his acting class. He lashes out when he gets emotional. In this case, JT knew enough to justify Chris killing him.
“We always have the option”.🔫
LOVE how you slipped in "ostrefied". Fans will know 😂
Imo it's simple. Once Jt said Chris, you're in da mafia. That sealed his fate
please never stop doing soprano videos
I guess Sandpiper Air was left to Brian to run after Joe was whacked
What happened to Chris at the end of the season is the same thing he inflicted on Dolan, he enabled him, made him an addict again, humiliated him, beat him and dehumanized him, then finally killed him. Chris got hit by Karma.
There were a lot of contributing factors here for this but you need to also realize he was a junkie and very drunk and emotional.
@7:48 "It's the straw that broke the camel nose's back"
That was cold😂
I like all the quotes and allusions flowing seamlessly through your narrative. Very poetic. Like a dream.
Chrissy saw only one episode of Wings…
And it was game over.👍🥃
Because he was a man-baby. He beat the guy up before but expects him to be available at all hours and coddle a murderer.
He used to beat Adrianna, set her up, unlived that waiter, shot the kid at the bakery, etc. He was a terrible person.
Although he had the funniest line of the show about how the Russians apt looked terrible lol
Great summery. Christopher in one word: Douchebag.
or in the same episode when he said he thought the cuban missile crisis was just a movie
@dr.daredvil612 Ironically for the thing Tony was innocent for too.
Such beautiful analysis at various levels, and ofc including all that Sopranos vernacular. Congrats. What a show when one can still find layers of meaning after so long... Masterpiece.
Tony should've done it to Meadow when she uttered "Are you in the mafia?"
This is really well done! Thank you for this video. I never thought much about it but every angle you show is exactly every way I can imagine it going. Even the still photos you can see their souls staring at each other. Quite eerie. Kudos sir
At least J.T. didn’t die on the toilet like that guy in Hollywood. “Don” something… Producer of The Simpsons.
"straw that broke the camel nose's back" was a good one
I think he actually tealized how much he had said to Dolan.
I think Tim Daly being mentioned and then later cast was as simple as “hey, we already mentioned his name, so let’s cast him!”
Poor Joe Hackett. At least they didn't take your your plane from Sandpiper.
Well written, that's a subscription from me. Altho it could've been a 30s video: JT made a simple error, he has cutten ties at the worst moment. You don't unleash a dog when his mouth is foaming. It's kinda funny more than tragic imo, because it's like chrissy proved his point. The last half second from him was like he just realized what he said. He just didn't know what it meant until then. Because, despite everything, he still wanted to think that chris was a regular human being. By then, he should've known. A simple mistake we can all make tho.
Christopher was too much of a Takshic person for Dolan
Well, much like shyness, takshicity is a curse
I am working and binging your videos. Even ones I have already watched. Perfect timing!
He did-dan't!
😂
Because he was a stray dog and was put to sleep like one.
At this point Chris realised he didn't have any real friends, prior to this the whole Jersey mob had showed they had zero respect or care for him, as they all laughed at him. Then JT snubbed him "Chris, you're in the Mafia", he realised he wasn't a real friend, he actually had nothing in common with him and Chris stopped trusting him with what he knew about Jersey. So he shot JT as a final straw of anger, frustration and a sense of betrayal and abandonment. The fact is he could take all his anger out on JT as he wasn't a made guy and because he knew too much and couldn't be trusted.
always thought it was a kind of clever role reversal thing; JT offers Chris no humanity at all when C is being open honest and real...all JT had to do was just be a friend, sit and listen while C vented, got it out of his system, but no. A demonstration of low emotional IQ and JT pays for it.
In 1992 I took a horrible job as a manager at a rent to own in eastside Fort Worth. My customers were often packing and my employees probably had a gun in their car. I took a different tone then usual
From season one to season three it changed so much with the quality with stories and the way it was filmed by the last season everythin was dark lighting
Chrissy was a made guy, JT should have offered him a cup of coffee.
And a veal Parmigian sandwich
Or at least a soft drink of choice.
Any kind he likes
All this over a cup of coffee, he wasn’t thirsty!!
@@KCJJ1141only new jersey's best sangweesh would have sufficed
You’re hilarious, dude! 😂😂😂
An ENTIRE room, full of subscribers…and you did NOTHING! 🤓🥂🥩
Honestly, thanks to your channel, I understand the whole Sopranos story better. I never paid attention to JT and his story. It's good to broaden your horizons. Speaking of which, your second channel where you comment on books is excellent.
am pissed that chris didnt shoot paulie after his joje instead shooting some guy who had nothing to do with it
Overall, a very thoughtful analysis of their relationship from the show, as well as some interesting Chase info. 👍
He killed him because it was in the script