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The Sopranos follows mob boss Tony Soprano who, as the boss of a powerful Pygmy thing over in Jersey, comes across many colourful characters in his career, such as the terrifying Ritchie April, the volatile Ralph Cifaretto, and the dangerously uncontrollable Feech LaMana.
One of these characters is Carmine Lupertazzi Jr, also known as “little” Carmine. Little Carmine is a capo of the Lupertazzi family, though far removed from the actions and day-to-day activities of the Lupertazzis in New York. He makes his dough by fixing wet T shirts contests, producing adult movies, and owning disco clubs. The fact that he’s so far away from the ongoings of the mob is perhaps an intentional and strategic manoeuvre from his father, for Little Carmine’s own protection and to avoid embarrassment, because over the course of season 4, 5 and 6, the more we see of Carmine Jr the more we come to realise that he’s an A grade idiot. but is he?
Little Carmine was on a higher spiritual level than humans. He had to dumb himself down so that mere mortals could comprehend him.
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so true
The sacred and the propane
That's a real possiblity. He found himself at the presepice..of an enormous crossroad.
or as he may have said , “mere morsels”
Little Carmine is by far the most successful outcome in the show, including all the female characters. He gets to retire, happy. He doesn't need titles. He never gets shot, doesn't have a heart attack, Dementia, stroke, cancer or stressed out. Describing his home life, at the end of his day he has a tub and a dinner with a drink made by a loving wife. None of the others are content with their place in the world, it's never enough.
He's one of the 10% who doesn't end up in the can or stretched out at Cuzzorelli's
His family is never in danger, his life is never really threatened. He set himself up with legitimate businesses so he cant be at risk of being indicted. He really did it right, he used his connections to get himself a legal easy life
He was smart, because he took his earnings, rep., etc... and moved far and away from it to start somewhat legitimate businesses. He moving back when his father passed, is very telling.
For him NOT to be included in the show that much, is a good thing for any single human being. Not being picked apart by the FBI, shaken down, threatened 24/7, etc... Meatheads were at the forefront of the mafia, having mid-life crisis while performing in the mafia in an era where guys tried to be old-school, and live through that in an era that was proving more and more by the day. To be extremely outdated tactics.
There was just too many occasions not to notice how he played a key role in passively pushing people into getting whacked, wars, etc... PEOPLE THAT STOOD IN HIS WAY MIND YOU.. the proposition of him to go out on the streets, with Rusty trying to manipulate him further WAS a 19d move. Him producing a movie of Tony's prodigies' murder fantasy, was the move that was all but the icing on the cake for Tony whacking chrisy. The sit down with Phil and Tony, how he purposely scuffed that to spark Phil's emotions, and inevitably cause the war. All while making it a point that he was 'too stupid' to have possibly been a key figure in any of that.. WHILE LITERALLY BEING THE ONE TO DO IT.
He, making one single move that eventually cause Tony B. situation that sparked the downfall of the relationship between NY and Jersey (especially it all being done through him in the shadows) -- mastermind shit. 379d
People like to rip on him, and dog on him cause yes he talks like an idiot. "a gallon of gold is worth more then a pint of blood". (which is hilarious, because he is a successful mostly legit guy. But the way he talks is as stupid as a gangster) And because Tony calls him retarded. But the truth about the whole show, is that it IS shot through substantially through the eyes of Tony being the 'good guy' or maybe more like the guy we come to love and route for.. and what Tony says at an eye's glance, even a 2nd, and 3rd watch-through.. it still sticks as such.
*We have to dig to see that Tony won't even admit to himself that he's jealous of Ralph's success.* Ralph -- while Tony was being pampered to become boss. Ralph had to drop out of school, and help his mother. instead of being an architect, he joined the mob for an easy quick scape; and absolutely thrived at it to the point he talked shit about Johnny Sac. and Johnny Sac. almost got whacked over it. Yet, being shot through the eyes of Tony.. all Ralph is: a psycho whose a comical idiot.
Therefore, viewers who love the show will often take sides with Tony. Even when he's at his most devious end stages.
But the truth is, is that Tony is a grown, stone cold gangster version of AJ. Who was 1 lucky f$&% for multiple reasons, on a multitude of situations. He got made for sticking up a card game within his own family, something 9999/10000 guys would've been clipped for. (in contrast how much we see Chrisy go through, even as the nephew of the boss) Came in at a time where he prospered off the hard work from guys before him. And became boss for next to nothing at all.
We love Tony, but let's be real about him. What he says, thinks, and how the show puts that into perspective -- should always be taken with 10 grains of salt. He is a typical, narcissistic sociopathic grown spoiled brat, who never had to work that hard for his lifestyle.
Little Carmine played them all.
[Yet who EXACTLY killed Tony from New York? That is up for debate. As in the end, his own crew was openly shit talking him with him being in the next room.. an offense that got Patsies own brother clipped in the opener of Season 2]
@@jbach7274 This is a great overview! In the end, Tony is a very unreliable narrator. Maybe that’s why we never get to see his final end; it’s a part of his story that he can’t control.
@@robertbusek30 That's part of the fun of this show! You go back and rewatch it 9000 times, with an intention to look for a small detail or 2 here and there. And you will be AMAZED at how much shit you can pull up. The layers and depths to this thing are just insane man.
For example: on one watch through, I made it a dedication to watch out for any/all people accepting Tony's money or wealth in anyway, shape, or form. (aka blood money)
Another watch through, I made it a point to see how Tony would act directly after a therapy session.
etc.. etc.. etc...
@@jbach7274 I do that with one of my favorite shows: Twin Peaks.
Little Carmine is like the textbook example of why in negotiations, it's better to just walk away vs agreeing to a bad deal. His self awareness is the reason why he'll be the one who grows old and will get to meet his grandkids and let them sit on his lap. Something we know Tony thought about but will never experience
I mean, we DON'T know if Tony ever got to experience that. Regardless of anyone's personal interpretation of the final scene of Sopranos, Tony's fate is intentionally left without an answer. David Chase has been very clear that we as the audience aren't supposed to know what happens after the show ends. The show just ends and, along with it, so does our perspective as the audience.
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Dont forget that one capo (carlito?) snitched to the feds. Even if Tony wasnt murdered, he was done for.
@@jcjvcjc98 My friend, even if Tony's life didn't end in the last episode, he's still going to jail for at least 50 years
@@greywakez probably
@@jcjvcjc98David Chase has let slip the final moments in the script was written as the ‘Death scene’ and he’s also said the ending wasn’t supposed to be ambiguous. It’s obvious Tony died and anyone who denies it is simply an idiot.
“I have survived to middle age with half my wits while thousands have died with all of theirs intact. Evidently quality of wits is more important than quantity!"
I Claudius
It'll be tough to verify that little carmine would have been an effective leader
I'm reminded of Louis pastures finance minister, duh something.
We do know he had 33 titles under his sub species
I never thought about which character ended up as 'the winner' at the end of the series, but after this I agree that it was Carmine Jr.
I think you're right. Little Carmine had the ego to avoid the leadership, while Tony tried it but realized that Junior was the wrong guy and couldn't help but take the reigns. Tony's fate was sealed when he became boss. Carmein avoided that fate but also had credibility to have power while avoiding becoming a target. With the whackos like Phil and Rusty out of the way and Jersey neutered he could take the reigns without becoming a target. He was able to do a Michael Corleone without lifting a finger. Kudos to him.
Tonys fate became sealed when he hitched his horse to Christopher then to Paulie then finally Bobby. Bobby was a good underboss but by the time he stepped in it was too late.
Tony was boss in fact before he was boss in name. I don't think Tony ever trusted Junior's leadership, he put him in power to take the fall and keep himself insulated.
@@marcuslosgreat4225 Christopher did the most things for Tony and was tasked with the most important jobs and he always came through. I suggest you watch it again.
Little Carmines character was straight out of the book 48 laws of power. He made himself look dumb and weak because that’s what he wanted his opponents to view him as. When in reality he may have been a genius if this theory is true. The fact that he was able to interpret the dream in a way Tony or someone like Phil couldn’t proves he was much smarter than them. This is my new favorite sopranos theory.
It’s not about being boss, it’s about being happy
I don't think he was a genius pulling all the strings behind the scenes, but he was smarter than people gave him credit for. Sure he wasn't the most street smart but I think he had a solid grasp of the hig picture. It's like he had some of the social ineptness of Fredo but some of the strategic smarts of Michael Corleone.
The fundamental question is, will I be as effective as a boss like my dad was. And I will be, even more so...But until I am, it's going to be hard to verify that I think I'll be more effective
It's alogorical
He was smart enough to know what his strengths and weaknesses were, and he only focused on that which he could benefit from without turmoil.
@@eaglewinnings8003 he just have difficulties with words
@@smellsuperb1 yeah,his real strength was not letting his ego interfere with his survival instinct. He never hungered to be boss, but he would be happy to take it if all the other challengers self destructed.
You make very interesting points. All I can I'll say is Ray Abruzzo portrayed Little Carmine brilliantly. One of the most entertaining characters in a series that was loaded from front to back with excellent actors. I thoroughly enjoyed the limited appearances of "Little" Carmine Lupertazzi Jr. We Italians have a word for his type. "Chooch".
i think you mean stunad. he's not a jackass
"We all know how emotional Phill is..."
That's because he has an empty Fuckin' stomach!
The wine makes him emotional
"Uncle Philly!"
@@eaglewinnings8003 "Uncle Philly" my ass!
@@bassbole classic man just started my 977th rewatch after seeing this video. Starting from season 3 this time I like starting back from random points gives better perspective
Uncle Philly my ass
His ineptness was a front that caused ppl to excuse his so called verbal mistakes but in reality they weren't mistakes cuz he couldn't out gun johnny sac or leatardo for boss so he strategically pit them against tony to eliminate his enemies that way.
On the Carmine Jr. mastermind/machiavellian theory, I did notice something interesting.
When he sits down with Tony and talks about him becoming a boss, he tells the anecdote about Nicolas Fouquet - although in a hilariously confusing way. This anecdote is one of the first real life examples provided by the author in the book '48 Laws of Power', which focuses on sophisticated tactics used in obtaining power. I wonder if it was a very subtle nod that he was using this work as his handbook on dealing with the ongoing power struggle. The law where this anecdote is used (#1, never outshine your master) also would fit him perfectly with his underdog act. It also would make sense that he would only (poorly) remember such a historic tale if he had recently read it somewhere, since I doubt he was personally passionate about European history.
Or most likely it is just all a coincidence, still think it's remarkable and instantly thought of this character when I read it.
The problem with assuming Carmine is as stupid as he seems is we never really see him alone, so of course he would play the fool even in social situations even around his own crew since there is always the chance they are in some other families pocket.
He has a smirk or a certain expression sometimes after he says something dumb. Bringing up Phil’s brother murder at that sit down with Tony and Phil looked completely calculated and on purpose. He can barely keep from laughing when he says his dad was “wearing a paper crown like from Burger King”. Little Carmine wants to live the life of luxury like a boss, but without all the headaches and stress. Pure and simple.
He was 1 of the most likely to have had Tony wacked, he instigated the war, was at the peace meeting with Butchy, and his(Tony's) son worked for him which would make sense for Carmine to know the location of Tony and some of his routines.
Edit: lol I wrote the comment before even listening to the video. Saying similar things as I was thinking.
“As for being half-witted: well, what can I say except that I have survived to middle age with half my wits, while thousands have died with all of theirs intact! Evidently, quality of wits is more important than quantity!“ (I, Claudius)
“Your brother Billy, whatever happened their” Not brought up by accident.
Yeah, that is what i am thinking. I mean, either he is just that stupid, or he contrives to appear stupid while he spreads banana peels for others to slip on…. And who can blame an idiot like Carmine when they do slip?
I really love how you sprinkle all his misused words throughout this video. Very well done.
Very observant. The sacred AND the propane
little carmine already suffered his share of mob unhappiness in his youth as the son of a don. He wasnt going to waste his adult years too by being unhappy and depressed.
little carmine learned from his father's mistakes and took the leap to civilian life that even michael corleone was unable to accomplish.
little carmine got to have his cake....and eat it too!
This video reminds me of Louis the whatever's finance minister, De-something, who was clapped in irons for building a place that even outshone Versales. Then it reminded me of the South Beach Strumpet series that then reminded me that a pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold, which is both sacred and propane.
Very allegorical
A pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold
07:23 This is bigger deal than it sounds: mob has one of those unwritten rules that if you kill "one of your own", blood family is left out of it. That's not just how these things are done. Phil's death in front of his family was heartless and cruel, even by mob standards(Which would explain Tony's possible demise in season finale when HIS family was present).
I don’t think he was a closet criminal mastermind but when he said “whatever happened there” it definitely seemed intentional.
I think he said that because, at some level, he understood that neither Phil nor Tony would take the truce seriously.
I always thought of carmine Jr as unintentional parallel to Jackie jr
I've always said Little Carmine wasn't as dumb as everyone thought. He kind of showed how it on the golf course with his dad.
I mean he did survive the whole thing lol
I just remember in the last episode, right before the last scene, I thought to myself "Holy shit, Lil' Carmine won."
Without even firing a gun
Carmine jr reminds me of Jean Perron, the former coach of the montreal canadians and was later traded to the quebec nordiques, the only coach in nhl history tonbe traded. He was famous for his malaproprosisms, still made a brilliant career
"If there's one thing my father taught me, it's this: A pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold."
“The sacred and the propane.”
I don't care what anyone thinks,.. in my estimation, Fredo Lupertazzi outshone even Versailles, AND avoided drowning in 3 inches of water at the penguin exhibit.
Tbh my very first time watching this show I didn’t pay attention to the sub dialogues much with a minor character like Little Carmine but at first glanced watching how he was always at the table or in the conversation and other bosses came to him so he could provide some sort of intelligent insight imo …even as a mediator I never thought he was an idiot, always assumed it was something mysterious about him and it’s part of the reason why I clicked on this video for more insight on his character
Looks like I have to rewatch the entire show again
He may not have been the smartest, but he was far and away the wisest. Even if he didn’t want to be boss, the fact that he outlived all the other contenders almost guarantees that eventually he will be.
5:18 🤣 I remember one time when I fell face down in a stagnant puddle of mud water and came back with a scorching case of dissension.
“Your brother, whatever happened there” “WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE?” “God rest his soul”
0:32 business deals with the DiMeo family, not the Sopranos family.
That's like saying that Carmine Lupertazzi is making deals with Tony, Carmela, AJ and Meadow.
I am an advocate of Little Carmine as Machiavellian genius theory. There are a few things I think you missed
The impending and deadly struggles to be boss was explicitly identified as an issue at the very beginning of the series. I was a known fact that there were many people that felt entitled. Little Carmine’s hereditary claim had the least power. But, never the less, you do see that LC did feel that he was entitled as a birthright.
So here you have this guy who has a birthright…. But knows he will be killed if he try’s to enforce that right, So, as you say…. He absents himself from the competition. But that does not mean LC relinquishes his sense of entitlement.
Then, inevitably, one by one, people with a claim to the throne start getting killed…. Often in mysterious circumstances. And, if you watch closely, LC’s apparent stupidity often subtly stirs internecine resentments.
Finally, there is only one remaining pretender to the throne…Phil leotardo….who is conveniently is warring with Tony
LC and Tony have a Sit down…. LC agrees t9 have Phil killed and end the War
Phil is killed… which works out well for LC
And Tony let’s down his guard…. Because Phil is dead
The war is over
And New York is now run by the unthreatening LC
But suddenly, all of Tony’s Cappos suddenly and unexpectedly get taken out
This is a convenient coincidence… bad luck for Tony who still is a little relaxed, and sets up an family dinner…. Which he would not do if he thought the war was still on.
Most everyone thinks Tony was killed at this dinner by the man in the members only jacket
This man entered the diner with AJ
Who came from his job at LC’s production company
Mayme AJ was BS ing At work about his plans for dinner with his family
Maybe the killer followed him from work knowing Tony would be there relaxing with his family
Not unlike the other killing done in a cafe by a men in a members only jacket
So…. At the very least LC approved the hit on Phil.
LC reassured Tony that the war was over causing him to relax and let down his guard
Tony’s crew was all taken out after Phil was gone..,. With LC as an obvious mastermind
Tony was hit by a killer that entered with someone coming from LC’s business
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When I was in college I took a course on Shakespeare
I wrote a paper on the plav Richard Iii
This play had man6 similarities to the proposed plot of the sopranos
Basically, you have a cripple who has a small entitlement to the throne
But lots of other people are more virile contenders
Yet, one by one. Richard deviously arranges for all the other contenders to conveniently disappear without Richard ever being implicated
No one ever suspects Richard because he is a weak cripple who therefore seems not worthy of being feared
He always presents himself as the last person in the world who should be considered to become king
All the while he is scheming in the background
Quite a few parallels… but then the people who wrote the sopranos are likely unfamiliar with shakespear
I have long been a fan of the opinion the LC was pulling the strings at least at the end. But your last line that Chase or other writers were not familiar with Shakespeare is rather silly. I would bet they all knew of that type of plot line long before the sopranos, be it from Shakespeare or other Classics.
The sopranos is basically a Greek tragedy. There's literally no way the writers of the show aren't acutely aware of Shakespeare, both as influence and inspiration.
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I was being ironic about the writers not knowing Shakespeare… of course they would…
@@MrArdytube I had a feeling you had to be.
The point about the hitman following AJ to get a line on Tony is pretty good. It makes more sense than the theory that Meadow spilled the beans to Patsi through her fiance.
The Rhiannon theory is a bit more convoluted, although it's not completely baseless.
I've enjoyed your videos and commentary for a good while, Your analysis of this character represents you, at the top your game. If you will allow it, I'll carry your analysis one step further. Little Carmine understands that the thirst to follow in his father's footsteps will destroy everything he holds dear. In The Many Saints of Newark, Dickie confides in Uncle Sal, how bad he really wants a son, Uncle Sal tries to explains this same Buddhist tradition to Dickie, who doesn't get it. Little Carmine DID get it, He won the game, by never playing. It is called Tanha, It's the idea that wanting things, Only brings us pain, we should let that longing go.
Little carmine was also financially stable than most guys
Lil Carmine was the *ONLY* character in the game who not only didn't end up in prison or dead
But also managed to get everything he wanted out of the life and then retire.
Lil Carmine may not have been book smart but he is the very definition of what a genius should be
I love the way you worked his malapropisms into the video. "Cause dysentery between NJ and NY"
“dysentery in the ranks…” 😂
Although I have always liked the "little Carmine plays dumb" theory he is shown being dumb away from anyone he would have to manipulate
I always liked his mannerisms and the way he talked.
'your brother, 'billy', whatever happened there'
seems like an inside joke about 'billy bats', no...?
He was the mastermind he kept it all going
"A strange game, the only winning move is not to play."
Lil was playing and making moves
Tony was never killed , no gun shot no screams
I agree, Little Carmine to me, was one who was very smart and very wise, well above his years and planned on staying alive a very long time. I never thought him to be stupid or anything like Fredo. He knew the world around him better than the world did; he grew up in it and flourished. A.J. Soprano was a half brained drug fiend loser. Carmine made the best of, and loved his life and his family and only wanted to preserve that. And he was easily smart enough to do that. That scene you referred to with Tony touched me. I didn't know why at the time. And it just occurred to me now. The only ambition Little Carmine ever had was to get along, just to get along. And that's how you stay alive and the joke was on all of them. All their scheming and planning. Carmine didn't want to know about any of it. Get along to get along: Simple as that and it worked. He was the last man standing assuming Tony was whacked at the end. Little Carmine was one of my favorite characters because in those circumstances, I fancy myself the same way. I wished he had a bigger part.
In a nutshell a pint of blood is worth more than a gallon of gold.
Little Carmine may have worn the malifulous Burger King crown, but in the end did it outshine Versales? No, but it was sacred AND propane.
Your brother Billy whatever happened there......???
Carmine didn't put on his sunblock.
Little Carmine was a bit of a doof - I don't think he was faking that - but he really did "win" by just staying out of the life/drama and enjoying what he had. I like him more and more, with each rewatch.
I agree. Carmine didn't have what people consider traditional intelligence, but his emotional intelligence ended up being through the roof towards the end
But the real question, is will he be an effective leader like his father. It’s gonna be hard to verify
I never thought he was dumb, just a oblivious and eccentric rich kid who was born into a situation that he inherited but didn’t want.
I think if Little Carmine really wanted it, he would have let Rusty loose to whack Johnny Sack, whack Phil, whack everyone who opposed him and would have run the Lupertazzi family as Rusty's puppet. Rusty urged him to do this. He didn't have the stomach for it.
I never bought into Carmine being a mastermind theory. It was completely contrary to his story arc.
He was not the smartest, but he was smart where it counted the most. A close second would be Silvio imho.
It would be interesting for Silvio to come out of his coma and have to pick up the pieces as a boss.
Carmine Lupertazzi Jr., Whatever happened there.
Fools are easily liked and trusted by others
"Whatever happened there" the line that sparked the war lol....yea it's really reaching to say he's a genius. It actually makes sense he would say the line about Billy because it was a source of tension at the times
Darth Jar-Jar isn’t JUST a theory 😂
Tony Jr was much more like his father and became more and more like him over time. From dislike off authority to the small time scams he pulls.
Little Carmine would of caused too much " dysentry in the ranks" as a boss
There he is! Live from Miami Beach!
❤😂🎉 his eyebrows and nose tell everything!!
Dysentery in the ranks gets me evry time 🤣🤣☝️🤌
Excellent analysis.
I think he got smarter following his wife council. He using 5he divide and conquer approach when he saw the gap. That's smart! Some people are not leaders but hear and apply counsel and find success after.
He wasn’t a genius but he was smarter than he let on
Regardless always felt that he was smarter than what he let on and I also feel like if you wasn't the richest he was one of the richest at the end of the show and also the most legitimate
could you do a piece about what Tony would have done if Old Man DiMeo was released from prison
would Tony step down or would he have intolerance for the old ways and look to keep his seat of power?
Well, I am still waiting for my box set of South Beach Strumpets! How about it Carmine?
Not enough appreciation for the Shah of Iran joke in the beginning.
Well, even though he was a little duh, especially in his thesaurus-choosing speechification (I have that word patented), during his little talk about his wife and about him standing back and living was very smart.
Having said that, I love the actor (he had a bit char on Mad Men as well) though, he played him just right.
I've come to the conclusion that his malapropisms might be a mild mental condition similar to dyslexia. It might even be congenital given that Big Carmine also does it ("There's no stigmata against it...")
the best revenge is living well...
Look, if we can be specific with all specificity and so forth, it's plainfully obvious that in the modicum of times we can get a glimpse at the character, it's clear to anyone with a conscious that he is in fact a primordial mover of men, as it were. Incontroversially, Tony doesn't have the makings of a varsity athlete as it were, and Phil spent too much time worrying, 20 years worrying. Too much in my estimation.
Small hands that's what his problem was
And in my you get points for staying out of the can
I just have to say because I’ve heard you say it in a bunch of videos. It’s not dysentery, it’s dissent
Adulthood is realizing little Camine won.
No He wasn't people try and give him credit when his stupidity saved him. He just wanted to live the good life his dad provided him. When he tried to challenge he knew he wasn't built for it
Hi CineRanter,
You keep using the word "dysentery" when you mean "dissension."
"Dysentery" is a bowl infection that gives people the shits.
"There was *dissension* in the ranks."
Actually malapropisms which Chrissy used in one episode
He is a player of the game
The only thing I didn’t like about lil carmine was that Johnny sax killed his whole crew and he did nothing about it. Lorraine, rusty and the old man who the leotardo brothers killed and threw in the trunk.
Now I won't call Little Carmine Brainless II because of the inclement negative implications..
I Claudius?...I Carmine?
He might be stupid, but he's still not as stupid as Jackie Jr, getting high and then shooting up a card game full of made men and associates
Reza Pahlavi....i caught that.
Tony didn’t almost beat coco to death he beat him almost to death then curb stomped him and killed him
It’s mind bottling. Jaja
He was the new york prince matchabelli.
Carmine wasn't respected, but what does a Rose care for the compliments from dung?
like if you were insulted by a drunken bum on your way to your 6 figure salary job, would you even stop to look at said bum?
"I don't want to be the richest widow in Long Island" means:
1. I love you and I want you to live (Something that Tony isn't too sure about seeing how Carmella acted).
2. He's saying: I am richer than all of you without having to worry about being killed or worry about feds.
Tony got so burned he didn't even realize it.
I dont understand why all of the others killed when forced to choose who they backed, Gene inherited a million bucks but could never step away and move to florida so he hung himself. But little Carmine can just opt out without repercussions after half the family is murdered? Doesn't really make sense.
I love the videos on Yt with all Carmine Jr's malaproprisms. Hes like Ricky from Trailer Park Boys but not as funny.
When did AJ work with little carmine in show biz? i didn't know that
What a great topic! Thank you for the entertainment (Little Carmine is the only good guy among them).
Cause dissent. Dysentery is a completely different word with a complete lot different meaning.
Weird thing is.. Tony was just the Underboss
He was the street boss
I think your final analysis is entirely correct
I think he took the money and run,that what he did most people who could put him with mob die and rest would push him out in long run ,he took the opportunity made money follow order and leave mobs live without stress
He has 9 pictures under his subspecies.
Hear me out! I think he was very smart and played jersey against New York on purpose. I think he knew he wasn’t cut out for the life in New York but… after hearing carmine sr say how jersey was a glorified crew his whole life he felt like he could run jersey especially with extremely strong ties to New York. New York would have just been too much for him. He was mulling over being a boss at one point and I think he decided to let New York clean house and only then could he uncontestedly take the reigns in jersey. Superior chess player
All I can say is I agree. Good points