Horten XVc "Pappenheim" flying

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • This is an extract from a german newsreel, showing the Horten XVc "Pappenheim" flying. The Horten "Pappenheim" was one of the three Horten XVc gliders that were built in Europe (according to plans from R. Horten, then stationed in Argentina), in the early '50s. All other Hortens XVc were built in Argentina.
    Based on the Horten XVc, I built a small RC slope soarer which flies perfectly. You can see the video here: • Horten XVc Urubu RC Sl...

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  • @dinkmartini3236
    @dinkmartini3236 11 місяців тому +13

    That was a smooth touchdown.

  • @johnfranborra
    @johnfranborra 9 місяців тому +8

    The Horton brothers were brilliant. And they were little more than kids when they began developing and perfecting these designs! As a frustrated glider pilot, I consider their later, high aspect sailplanes among the loveliest machines ever to take flight.

    • @tifosaurus
      @tifosaurus  9 місяців тому +1

      Magestic flying wings, for sure.

  • @elsupremo6037
    @elsupremo6037 9 годин тому +1

    I am impressed that this plane needs only 50 or 60 meters for take off

  • @HerbertHaag-l1f
    @HerbertHaag-l1f 10 днів тому +2

    A wonderful Plane 👍

    • @tifosaurus
      @tifosaurus  10 днів тому

      Indeed. And it flies wonderfully also at model scale. Watch my other video with the RC Horten XVc I have built: ua-cam.com/video/s05vSqg7-0M/v-deo.htmlsi=XwNCl-GpyUr8oYZg

  • @FroggyFrog9000
    @FroggyFrog9000 14 годин тому

    nice plane.

  • @rubenlopez4344
    @rubenlopez4344 10 місяців тому +4

    Rieman Horten se radico en Argentina despues de la WWII. Alli construyó para la Fabrica Militar de Aviones un prototipo de esta ala volante, que se puede ver hoy en el Museo Aeronautico de Morón, Provincia de BsAs.
    ua-cam.com/video/nqxNZiB61AQ/v-deo.htmlsi=gKfwJOVBmLxxaCwJ

  • @thefrenchcommander5770
    @thefrenchcommander5770 6 днів тому +1

    Looks like one of the time machines from Meet the Robinsons

  • @enedenedubedene4811
    @enedenedubedene4811 10 місяців тому +3

    Was hat dieser Flieger für einen Antrieb?👆👆👆👆😀😀😀 Viele Grüsse aus Germany

    • @tifosaurus
      @tifosaurus  10 місяців тому +5

      Kein motor. Es ist ein segelflugzeug und wird mit einem Katapult gestartet.

  • @EarlHare
    @EarlHare Місяць тому +1

    Butter

    • @tifosaurus
      @tifosaurus  Місяць тому

      @@EarlHare Butter? With crisps?

  • @dr.wilfriedhitzler1885
    @dr.wilfriedhitzler1885 7 днів тому +1

    Fuselage like the P 38.

    • @tifosaurus
      @tifosaurus  7 днів тому

      @@dr.wilfriedhitzler1885 Yes, kinda...

  • @kutlachakela
    @kutlachakela 21 день тому +1

    This flew but 229 couldnt?¿?¿?

    • @tifosaurus
      @tifosaurus  21 день тому

      @@kutlachakela Also the 229 flew. What do you mean exactly?

  • @luke_skywanker7643
    @luke_skywanker7643 8 місяців тому

    I wonder how that thing does in a flat spin?

  • @DD-uf2uo
    @DD-uf2uo 6 днів тому +1

    What powers it?

    • @Crispy_Crisp
      @Crispy_Crisp 19 годин тому

      slingshot type system, it doesnt glide for long

  • @g.k.4067
    @g.k.4067 11 місяців тому

    Pappenheim bei Treuchtlingen?

    • @tifosaurus
      @tifosaurus  10 місяців тому

      Ich bin kein Deutscher, das musst du mir sagen! :)

  • @EdwardKelly-vi9sg
    @EdwardKelly-vi9sg 6 днів тому

    I DIDN'T NOTICE A PROPULSION SOURCE....

    • @richuar
      @richuar 2 дні тому +1

      That’s because it doesn’t have one what with being a glider

    • @EdwardKelly-vi9sg
      @EdwardKelly-vi9sg 2 дні тому

      ​@@richuar...THANX...NO MENTION OE IT BEING A GLIDER...! 👍

  • @billbunting4253
    @billbunting4253 9 днів тому

    What was the propulsion on this prototype?

    • @tifosaurus
      @tifosaurus  9 днів тому +1

      @@billbunting4253 It was a glider.

    • @billbunting4253
      @billbunting4253 9 днів тому

      @ Towed, I thought so. A fully operations aircraft with similar wing earlier, and one of my favorites of all time, was the Waterman Aerobile. One hanging in the Smithsonian.

    • @tifosaurus
      @tifosaurus  9 днів тому +1

      @@billbunting4253 Yes, it cannot be seen in this video, but apparently there is a towing winch in the distance. Waterman' s Aerobile was a completely different beast: it was motorized flying wing, intended as a "flying car". So, the wings were removable and the wheels powered just like in an automobile. The Horten Pappenheim in this video, was intended to be a trainer glider from the beginning. Of course, it was also a flying wing, like the Aerobile, but the similarities end here.

    • @billbunting4253
      @billbunting4253 9 днів тому +1

      @ True to all you say. I was really thinking of the technological level at the time. From an aviation perspective. Commonalities were the swept back wing for both distributed lift, yaw and pitch stability, hence no rudder required, and the dihedral for roll stability. The Aerobile was developed up to 1935. It was incredibly stable to fly and could not be put into a flat spin nor stalled unintentionally. There was a simulator file for FX10 which I flew a number of times. It was not fast. The Horton Papenheim would have had very similar flying characteristics, except that the center of gravity of the Aerobile was lower and it had small wing tip rudders so the Horton would have been somewhat less stable.

    • @tifosaurus
      @tifosaurus  9 днів тому +2

      @@billbunting4253 Provided that the Center of Gravity in the Pappenheim was correct, then it would also be very stable. It was reported as such, at least. In general, the correct CoG placement for a swept flying wing is one of the most critical aspects for its success, whether it is with endplates, or without. I really love these aircraft.

  • @soundtrackmusic9111
    @soundtrackmusic9111 11 місяців тому +1

    グライダー感はあるね旋回力がね