Why You've Got to be Careful With How You Start the Downswing
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- Опубліковано 12 кві 2024
- Is this costing you? I used to think starting the downswing this way was a good idea. Now it's something I try to avoid.
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Great video... Btw, you see Bryson say something like he's just focused on getting lead shoulder down and swinging around...
Also, what's the max ball speed you think is achievable with S&T - I had an old fashioned swing and was getting mid 170s, sometimes 180 with swingspeed from 118 to 122 ish... But just could not control it at all (was sitting at 9 hcp almost entirely bc of errant drives and penalties)... I'm doing S&T now (in two weeks, hcp down to 5.1) - my ball speed is 150 and maybe 160s now with swing speed down to 107.... I'm hitting like 100% fairways, but would like to get to low 170s ball speed with S&T... Possible?
Great video Tom!! Who are you rooting for at Augusta?
Another banger of a video Tom. I'm a former longdriver, I have the same dropping inside path with my driver. My driver floats around 185 to 190mph on the course. My misses can be huge at times. I believe Rory is dropping the club on the downswing for the exact same reason I do. And that is to maximize ground force reaction at impact. Drive the arms down, then drive up via the legs at impact. Huge power potential. U the man.
Glad you enjoyed it! And yes - I do understand what he is trying to do - and he typically succeeds - but as you well know and as Rory demonstrated, you can use that ground interaction to bomb it into an adjacent zip code. It's an extremely difficult and risky move for the average golfer to try to incorporate.
In the swing system I teach, the "feel" we like to ingrain - if it doesn't happen on autopilot - is tucking the butt under the hips through the zone, which causes the belt buckle to raise up a few inches from pre- to post-impact. This action can be likened to that of a high jumper pushing off his or her lead leg as they propel themselves upward and over the bar. This releases the spine from flexion to extension - a hugely powerful, easily repeatable, body-friendly move.
Thanks for the message!
Tom
Thanks Saguto Golf! With your videos and a little digital feedback my swing has improved a lot! Focusing on turning my shoulders and weight distribution on my front leg and the mental key of thinking about rotation have yielded some amazing results over the last few weeks culminating in a 41 on the front nine at a local course. While I’m still working on the mental issue of swinging the driver I found that turning and not loosing my tilt was a core fix. Now ripping my 20 year old 4 iron over 210 off the tee and over 200 off the deck. The rest of the irons are crispy brah. New irons are on the way! Fairway woods are much improved too. Gracias Amigo!
If only I had your instruction 40 years ago! Thanks for making golf understandable.
I sincerely appreciate your kind words, and I'm very glad to know that my lesson content and teaching style are resonating with you and providing clarity and simplicity in the muddied, overly complicated, oft-conflicting realm of golf instruction!
By the way, if you'd like to make up for lost time and get on the fast track towards properly learning this swing system in a comprehensive, sequential platform, please consider my online school. It will make for a far more efficient, superior, and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through these channel videos that jump around randomly from topic to topic. The school is where you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step, position-by-position from setup to finish, along with diagnostic and corrective tools for resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues, and much more. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and their unsolicited testimonials tell the story quite well: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. At just $14.99/month or $149.99 per year the value in terms of what you get for that price point is beyond comprehension, and based on proven results it represents by far the best golf instruction deal on the planet.
And if you'd like to first "dip a toe in the water" prior to diving into the school, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ That is where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner.
Thanks again for your message. Have fun out there!!
Tom
Tommyyy golfff comin thru for the boiiisss with the IQ and making it simple. Best Coach/instructor on the Internet. No clickbait and extra words are at a minimum. Keepin it crispyyy! Keep the small things coming coach! The Basics always win. You need to hold a tournament for your followers.
LOL!!! I appreciate your kind words and support, and I'm very glad to know that my lesson content and teaching style are resonating with you and providing clarity and simplicity in the muddied, overly complicated, oft-conflicting realm of golf instruction!
As for getting SagutoGolfers together, I'm hoping for a good turnout at the Myrtle Beach World Am this summer. Definitely worth looking into. It's a great tournament and a great time for golfers of all age ranges and abilities!
Thanks again!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I am confident that you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”.: go.saguto.golf. If you haven't already worked through it, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Would love to see an updated driver video from you! I know you did some in the past but lately it seems like a lot of irons. Love the lessons!!
It is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html Beyond that, if you search the word "drive" on this channel you'll see some related content, including some fairly recent videos.
Also, here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some aspects of the system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/ This will provide a nice foundational understanding of the swing keys that will ultimately get you mashing the ball through your entire bag.
Tom
@@SagutoGolf I thought I’ve seen most your videos but I must have missed this one thanks Tom!
As a new golfer myself and at a old age and watching these guys play golf is incredible to me
Welcome to this greatest of games!
With regard to your age, you may be interested to know that a significant percentage of my online school members are in their 60's, 70's, and 80's - i.e.: a smorgasbord of chronic ailments, physical limitations, back/shoulder/knee/hip pain, arthritis, and joint replacements - and they are overwhelmingly elated to experience the dramatic pain-free game improvement, seemingly effortless power, and resulting enjoyment that this swing affords them. It all begins with a proper setup which provides for a free-flowing motion. Upon that good foundation a repeatable swing which produces consistently crispy impact can be built.
Have you looked into the comprehensive, sequential learning platform of the online school yet? It is designed to get folks on the fast track towards properly learning this swing system in a comprehensive, sequential platform, please consider my online school, and it will make for a far more efficient, superior, and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through these channel videos that jump around randomly from topic to topic. The school is where you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step, position-by-position from setup to finish, along with diagnostic and corrective tools for resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues, and much more. At just $14.99/month or $149.99 per year the value in terms of what you get for that price point is beyond comprehension, and based on proven results it represents by far the best golf instruction deal on the planet.
And if you'd like to first "dip a toe in the water" prior to diving into the school, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ That is where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner.
You don't need the flexibility of a Romanian gymnast - or even of this far less pliable golf instructor - to execute this swing, experience great ball striking. I hope you'll give the school some thought.
Tom
Good video Tom. Glad to see a change up from the normal area. The SHURE SM7B should sound crisper without all the additional gain in the background. Not sure if the audio was recorded from a second mic like the camera accidentally or not or if the gain on the mic is too high. Would love to see more stuff like this. Thanks!
Tom should see this, the audio was definitely taken from other source than the mic
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Yes - it was recorded using my Shure mic. I was in the confines of a small office space where the sound bounces off the walls, and it was a pretty quick production process because I wanted to get it out there while the subject matter was still fresh, so I didn't bother using the AI and other sound editing tools.
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Sounds more like the mic on your laptop or computer was picking you up rather than the Shure mic.
Love this analysis, Tom.
Thanks! I appreciate that and I hope it helps!
Tom
I like McIroy's more quiet feet as opposed to the early heel rise of Scheffler. His (Rory's) "sit-down" move is reminiscent of Snead. Thank you for the "staying over the ball' tip-it's priceless.
There is a reason for the "Scheffler Shuffle", Richard, and it lends itself to why he is the best ball striker in the game today. Perhaps I will do a video on that sometime. I do like Rory's swing a lot, but there are some compensatory moves that he must execute with precision in order to keep his dispersion in check.
Thanks for your message - I'm very glad to know that the lesson you referenced resonated with you!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I am confident that you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”.: go.saguto.golf. If you haven't already worked through it, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Thanks Tom … excellent information! ❤
My pleasure - I'm glad you enjoyed the analysis!
Tom
Yes, absolutely. But, there were two reasons for rory's horror swing on 18. One was butch; and, the other was harmon. And, one major diference between rory and scottie, here; is that rory's right knee is popping out- which is why his club drops under the line- whereas scottie's right leg is leaning towards the target. The "inside muscles" in scottie's right leg are more active. When rory takes the club back on the outside he invariably drops the club back on the inside and his right knee pops out on the inside to accommodate this. Butch, though, has advised rory to actually take the club back outside his hands, which can only be a recipe for disaster. Compare rorys swing to jones' inside move in the takeaway etc. and there is no comparison to the swing move that butch taught rory. Had jones swung the butch way there probably wouldn't be an Augusta or a us masters. Jones took one look at the hole, at address, he then extended the extensors of his left hand in an inside position, which activated the cupping of his left wrist. He then started his downswing by pressing the index finger side of his left hand towards his right hand. A player doesn't have to swing exactly like jones to be a great player. But, it is fair to say they won't win the masters doing entirely the opposite to what he did.
The basics of the swing system taught here: Weight forward, lead shoulder down, hands in..... 😎
@@SagutoGolf yes, absolutely, left arm left chest connectivity in the hitting area is key.
Tom, thanks so much.
My pleasure, Bill - I'm glad you enjoyed the analysis!
Tom
Great Vid! Thanks Saguto!
My pleasure, Rick - I'm glad you enjoyed this analysis and the lesson embedded therein!!
Tom
Thanks Tom. I was chunking and pushing all day yesterday. This really helped. Oh well! Still fun.
I'm glad to know that this analysis connected with you, David!
And nice job keeping it fun out there despite the less than stellar ball striking!
Tom
Thanks TS . KICS!
My pleasure, Pete - I'm glad you enjoyed the analysis!
Tom
Totally understand it. Forwarded to Rory, and he agreed and promised to do better tomorrow 😂 YOU are still the best on the interwebs
My pleasure, Maryann, and I appreciate your forwarding to Rory as I got too busy making and eating pimento cheese sandwiches in my kitchen and just didn't have the time to message him.... Anyway, he must have listened because he mostly kept it on the planet this weekend. 😎
Thanks - I'm very glad to know that my instruction content and teaching style are resonating with you!
Tom
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Sheffler right arm is not tucked in at top tom he needs called out also 😂. Great vid as always.
Scheffler knows he isn’t tucking when using driver. It’s intentional.
LOL! Glad you enjoyed it! The key is that Scottie's arm has not lost its orientation and his elbow is definitely not flying outward, meaning that it is in perfect position to reconnect in the downswing - which he does shortly after the transition. "Gluing" it in there is a "feel" that is necessary for most amateurs to achieve this desired action - at least until they have properly ingrained it.
Thanks!
Tom
Tom, Excellent video, thanks….
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed this analysis!!
Tom
Another Quality video Tom. ❤🎉😊
I appreciate that, Richard, and I'm glad you enjoyed this analysis.
Thanks for your message and support!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I am confident that you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”.: go.saguto.golf. If you haven't already worked through it, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Somewhat too advanced for me, but I understand. I am working on left arm straight, right arm tucked and taking the club back SLOWLY. Also keeping centered. The conscience slow back swing helps me keep it together with rhythm. Shot 39 twice in a row on our executive course (9holes). The goal this year is to minimize the double boogies! I enjoy Saguto Golf very much, especially the really simple explanations. Thank You.
That is OUTSTANDING!!
I'm very glad to know that my instruction is resonating with you; excellent job incorporating it into your swing and putting it into play.
Thanks so much for sharing your improvement and keep up the great work!! 💪💪
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I am confident that you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”.: go.saguto.golf. If you haven't already worked through it, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Great one. I 've been really trying to focus on maintaining my relation to the ball on both the back and down swings. Was it you who said Tom Watson says, imagine you're swinging inside a barrel. Like maybe a beer barrel, or a kegger, or an old tyme whiskey barrel.
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed this analysis! And yes - that was a quote from Tom Watson, and I suppose he left the choice of barrel up to the individual golfer....😆
By the way, while there are certainly videos on my channel that address that topic, a better option would be my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Tom
Rory was classically, "stuck" on that T-shot you showed. Hips way forward, upper body lagging way behind....working on that with my son.
Yep. It even happens to the best. With his move Rory teeters on the brink, but he's put so much time into it that it works for him far more often than not. Nonetheless, as much as I like his swing and his ball striking it is not a move I would teach or encourage.
Keep up the good work with your son!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf Thank u! Working on his posture and spacing (with the club), paying off huge dividends...cheers!
Great video!!!
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Thanks Federico - I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I am confident that you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”.: go.saguto.golf. If you haven't already worked through it, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Saguto Bro timely analysis as I am struggling with this very thing as I start the season.... without the Augusta pressure ;)
Fantastic! I'm very glad to know that this analysis resonated with you, and I hope it helps you to overcome your issue!
Now, shall we put an end to that struggle? For a really good starting point to get you on the proper path towards consistently crispy ball striking bliss, here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker": go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Let's make it a great season!!
Tom
Great analysis. Never understood how Rory can be consistent with that dip/hip drop into the ball. Phil does that too sometimes. Maybe more power but sacrifice accuracy.
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it! And yes, I do understand what Rory is trying to do - and he typically succeeds because he has put so much time into it - but as he demonstrated that move can also cause him to bomb it into an adjacent zip code at the most inopportune time. Beyond that, it's an extremely difficult and risky element for the average golfer to try to replicate with any measure of confident repeatability.
In the swing system I teach, the "feel" we like to ingrain - if it doesn't happen on autopilot - is tucking the butt under the hips through the zone, which causes the belt buckle to raise up a few inches from pre- to post-impact. This action can be likened to that of a high jumper pushing off his or her lead leg as they propel themselves upward and over the bar. This releases the spine from flexion to extension - a hugely powerful, easily repeatable, body-friendly move.
Tom
I notice Sheffler also tees the ball up a bit lower than McIlroy... I must admit that i have a similar issue when I dip at the top of my backswing. It feels powerful to get my legs into the shot, but it could explain why I struggle so much with driver! I have watched your free videos, but have only really applied that my iron swing, where it's helped a lot. I'm nbot sure why I've always thought I had to have a completely different swing for driver.
Although as I may have conveyed to you previously, it ought not be that way. It really is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
I am aware that many folks out there believe - and some even teach - that we must try to "hit up on the ball" with the driver. However, consider that in our stock setup with the driver the hands are even with the inside of the lead thigh (as they are with all clubs when playing a standard shot) and our ball position is even with the inside of the heel of the lead foot. This presets a very slight degree of forward shaft lean with the driver. Beyond that, the ball is behind the zero-point of the swing (which is even with the lead shoulder/armpit), meaning that without any contrived manipulations the club will still be on its descent - albeit very close to flat - at impact.
So, perhaps with the exception of folks with slower swing speeds - or those Long Drive participants teeing it extra high and hitting maybe 1-2 balls out of 10 onto a 60-yard wide "fairway" - in general the path is still ever so slightly down. In fact, the PGA Tour average with the driver is actually minus (e.g.: downward) 1.5 degrees - nearly level - and it should feel level - but slightly down nonetheless. (Here is an article on Ping’s website addressing this topic - ping.com/en-us/blogs/proving-grounds/optimal-launch-and-spin#:~:text=According%20to%20Trackman%2C%20PGA%20Tour,85%25%20ball%2Dflight%20laws )
For these reasons I do not advocate trying to hit up on the ball, and efforts to do so due to erroneous advice have caused many an amateur significant issues with their driver.
Upon learning this swing properly you will be harnessing the tremendous power source known as "angular momentum". This is the reason my students and online school members of all age ranges end up bombing it farther than they ever had previously
By the way, I think it's time. 😎 If you'd _really_ like to get on the fast track towards properly learning this swing system in a comprehensive, sequential platform, please consider my online school. It will make for a far more efficient, superior, and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through these channel videos that jump around randomly from topic to topic. The school is where you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step, position-by-position from setup to finish, along with diagnostic and corrective tools for resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues, and much more. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and their unsolicited testimonials tell the story quite well: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. At just $14.99/month or $149.99 per year the value in terms of what you get for that price point is beyond comprehension, and based on proven results it represents by far the best golf instruction deal on the planet.
Tom
Tom you emphasize hands in on the golf swing and hitting a push draw……can you clarify the difference or my confusion about hands in and not hitting in to out? Love your videos. Thanks!
The desired path is in to out, and both Rory and Scottie have versions of this. It's just that McIlroy has shallowed his driver path to an extreme, and to the point where - although it typically serves him well - would be problematic for most golfers to replicate with consistently desirable results.
As for the hands, I simply "allow" them to react without forcing anything. If we pre-establish the connections properly in the setup and have a foundational base that facilitates a full centered turn without restriction, then once we've ingrained the correct actions through sequential drilling and repetition we can entrust the motion to the big muscles and allow the arms, wrists, hands, and club to simply go along for the ride and respond accordingly as if on autopilot. The power accumulators - including the proper arm, wrist, and hand action - will then naturally load and fire with no contrived manipulations or precise timing necessary, thereby returning the face to the position pre-established at address. It's called "giving up control to gain control", and it's the formula for consistently blissful ball striking and seemingly effortless power.
While there are certainly videos on my channel that address this topic, a better option would be my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Thanks - I'm glad you're enjoying my content!
Tom
Outstanding
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Tom
This is gold tbh.
Thanks so much, Luke - I'm glad you enjoyed this analysis!!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I am confident that you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”.: go.saguto.golf. If you haven't already worked through it, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Rory is a pro so he can make minor adjustments but for us amateurs it’s a recipe for disaster. It’s like he’s changing his contact point by doing that tilt / sit down maneuver. He can overcome that but we can’t
Exactly, Dave, and a most excellent synopsis!
I do understand what Rory is trying to do - and he typically succeeds because he has put so much time into it - but as he demonstrated that move can also cause him to bomb it into an adjacent zip code at the most inopportune time. Beyond that, you are spot on - it's an extremely difficult and risky element for the average golfer to try to replicate with any measure of confident repeatability.
In the swing system I teach, the "feel" we like to ingrain - if it doesn't happen on autopilot - is tucking the butt under the hips through the zone, which causes the belt buckle to raise up a few inches from pre- to post-impact. This action can be likened to that of a high jumper pushing off his or her lead leg as they propel themselves upward and over the bar. This releases the spine from flexion to extension - a hugely powerful, easily repeatable, body-friendly move.
Thanks for your message!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I am confident that you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”.: go.saguto.golf. If you haven't already worked through it, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
I’ve been working on turning my arms off in the downswing and my contact issues seem to be getting better. Even my woods are doing better off the turf.
Fantastic!! I'm very glad to know that my instruction in that regard is resonating with you, Charles; excellent job incorporating it into your swing and putting it into play.
Thanks so much for sharing your ball striking improvement and keep up the great work!! 💪💪
Tom
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@@SagutoGolf Slowly but surely I think I’m getting better. I mainly just practiced today but I got in 9 and two were birdies. I’m really careful about what instructions I watch on UA-cam but honestly Tom you and Cogorno are the only UA-cam instructors who don’t confuse me and lately I’ve actually left the golf course in a good mood.
Love the video, Tom. You gotta get your microphone figured out though! You have a great setup and we aren't getting the benefit here. Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was in the confines of a small office space where the sound bounces off the walls, and it was a pretty quick and raw production process because I wanted to get it out there while the subject matter was still fresh, so I didn't bother using the AI and other sound editing tools.
Tom
Good video. You might want to change your broadcast location. You hallwayu is very echoey. Put a green screen behind you and then you could be broadcasting from anywhere you want. Like Augusta!
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
That's my office space - at least for the time building as I figure out how I want to arrange things in the house that I recently purchased.
Tom
(Over the top still) nice one Tom,let’s hope Rory sends you a packet❤
LOL! Thanks Gary - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Tom
I spent tones of money and time on driver range without motice how right tilt could be so wrong. Cheers!
I'm very glad to know that this lesson resonated with you, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Cheers!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my channel's content is connecting well with you, I am confident that you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”.: go.saguto.golf. If you haven't already worked through it, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
After watching your videos on how to stay over the ball and keeping that elbow tucked then watching the pros it seems to me they are working way to hard in their swing. Then realizing that was me working too hard when I swing the club!!
LOL! Some of them do indeed work too hard at coordinating, micromanaging, and timing various actions, Michael, but they have spent so much time building and refining their unique idiosyncrasies that it's all second nature to them now. However, there are also many simple, efficient motions out there that are a poetic joy to watch.
With regard to what I teach, actually this body-friendly, powerful, consistent, low-maintenance swing system is rooted in physics, geometry, and human physiology, and it is modeled on empirical observations of the game's greatest ball strikers. As such it does not discriminate by age or ability - from kids to seniors and everyone in between, inclusive of the best golfers in the world. Watch any Tour event on TV and you'll see a significant number of players executing these motions, a fact corroborated by just how many of them have a very centered swing with the lead knee flexing and the trail leg straightening during the backswing, their lead arms on or very close to their tilted shoulder planes, and their hands deep behind their trail shoulder at the top.
By the way, would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Thanks for your message!
Tom
For me it means more pimento sandwiches.. 😂
Not a bad consolation prize in my book! 😆
How is Scheffler able to hit that draw with the irons with his path being like it is?
He was set up for a cut with the driver in that video as evidenced by his slightly open shoulder line. He's simply applying ball flight laws to shape his shots: Clubface relative to target line is the primary influencer of the ball's starting line and face relative to path determines direction and degree of curvature.
TS
Looks like Sheffler has a flying right elbow to me. How on earth does he keep his club face square at the top and not cup and go across the line. How does he reconnect that elbow on the downswing? The mystery of human anatomy.
Hi David,
Every great ball striker gets that tucked trail elbow condition at some point prior to impact; some sooner than others. (Watch how quickly Scottie gets it in there as he transitions into his downswing.) Presetting the tuck at address eliminates a major swing-wrecking variable, and "gluing" it in there is a feel that is necessary for most amateurs to achieve this desired action - at least until they have properly ingrained it. Based on the countless testimonials received this trail arm "magic" has helped countless golfers across the globe to overcome a myriad of issues and experience great ball striking.
Tom
The Jack Nicklaus move. Good enough for him and Sheffler, good enough for me. Great stuff as always, Tom!
Excellent analysis. Fix the mike!
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
There is nothing wrong with the mic. I was in the confines of a small office space where the sound bounces off the walls, and it was a pretty quick and raw production process because I wanted to get it out there while the subject matter was still fresh, so I didn't bother using the AI and other sound editing tools.
Tom
It seemed like McRoy was over swinging his wedges during the Masters. Agree? What did you see on his wedges?
Quite frankly, Sean, I didn't get to see much of Rory after he played himself off the leaderboard, and I was probably busy making pimento cheese sandwiches whenever the TV showed him. 😎 It was disappointing that he wasn't in the mix because he always makes it interesting. As for his wedges, I can only guess that he was pressing out there and trying to turn things around with regard to his game.
Tom
@@SagutoGolf - nice. Making your own pimento. I was there in 2005. Nike swoosh dropping on 16 and Pimiento were my favorites.
Rory should've never changed his swing from when he first came on Tour. He always looks way too stiff now compared to then.
It goes to show you that just like the rest of us, even the best players in the world are constantly tinkering in the hope of improvement!
Tom, you are not saying that you have to stay over the ball with the driver, are you? Shouldn’t you have a right side tilt with the driver so you hit up on the ball, as most instructors suggest? I can see no tilt on irons, but I just can’t picture that with a driver.
Hi David,
It is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some practice range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
I am aware that many folks out there believe - and some even teach - that we must try to "hit up on the ball" with the driver. However, consider that in our stock setup with the driver the hands are even with the inside of the lead thigh (as they are with all clubs when playing a standard shot) and our ball position is even with the inside of the heel of the lead foot. This presets a very slight degree of forward shaft lean with the driver. Beyond that, the ball is behind the zero-point of the swing (which is even with the lead shoulder/armpit), meaning that without any contrived manipulations the club will still be on its descent - albeit very close to flat - at impact.
So, perhaps with the exception of folks with slower swing speeds - or those Long Drive participants teeing it extra high and hitting maybe 1-2 balls out of 10 onto a 60-yard wide "fairway" - in general the path is still ever so slightly down. In fact, the PGA Tour average with the driver is actually minus (e.g.: downward) 1.5 degrees - nearly level - and it should feel level - but slightly down nonetheless. (Here is an article on Ping’s website addressing this topic - ping.com/en-us/blogs/proving-grounds/optimal-launch-and-spin#:~:text=According%20to%20Trackman%2C%20PGA%20Tour,85%25%20ball%2Dflight%20laws )
For these reasons I do not advocate trying to hit up on the ball, and efforts to do so due to erroneous advice have caused many an amateur significant issues with their driver.
Upon learning this swing properly you will be harnessing the tremendous power source known as "angular momentum". This is the reason my students and online school members of all age ranges end up bombing it farther than they ever had previously, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And here's a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Tom
Same reason he lost the lead in the 2011 masters!
Rory is such a great driver of the ball, but because of this move he has to make those precise compensatory moves. Otherwise he could bomb it off the planet at exactly the wrong time...
More guitar!!
You'll find all you want on my YT guitar channel, Mark! 😎: www.youtube.com/@TomsRockinGuitar
Rock on!
Tom
Isn't that shallowing the club for a better turn
There can be too much of a good thing. As discussed, Rory makes some compensatory adjustments because his path is so shallow with the driver, but still as well as he hits it he remains exposed to this type of big miss.
Is that a Les Paul?
Lester is nestled comfortably in his case well protected from all external perils. That is my Peavey EXP - a lovely instrument that plays very well and has a fabulous tone.
Tom
PS: By the way, here is a link to my YT guitar channel if you are interested in checking it out: www.youtube.com/@TomsRockinGuitar
Most of the reason for this difference in their swing plane is (simply) due to their height difference. We shorties have a naturally flatter plane. The criticism here is very nit-picky.
Nope. Not nit-picky at all. I teach a one-plane motion, and if anything Rory's swing far more closely resembles that than Scottie's. Rory is plainly and simply a beneath his geometrically ideal downswing plane, and that has nothing to do with his height. He obviously has put in the time to make it work - and quite well at that - but this is the type of miss that he exposes himself to.
I think it's a height thing. Rory is a hobbit. Scotty is 6'2"? Being called a hibbit isnt a dis. Who doesnt love Bilbo?
Hobbit? LOL! I do tend to disagree with that notion though, Mike, as there have been other less vertically challenged golfers who have used that move - such as Tiger in his early days - and plenty of other long driving "hobbits" - including Ben Hogan - who have not.
And of course I love Bilbo....😎
TS