You've Been Holding the Club WRONG Your Whole Life and It's Costing You!
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- I’m sure at some point you’ve been taught to hold the golf club like you’re “holding a baby bird” or “holding a tube of toothpaste without trying to squeeze any toothpaste out of it”. I was taught the same way with the idea that lighter grip pressure was always good for your golf swing and that’s what you needed to do for the best results.
Surprisingly, holding the club light in your hands creates a whole bunch of potential problems in every area of your golf game - from the golf swing to chipping and pitching, and even putting. When you hold the club lightly, it allows for it to wobble and move around during your swing. This lack of security in your grip makes it difficult to return the club squarely at impact. It can also get your wrists moving excessively which can cause flipping and other contact issues.
Holding the golf club tightly - firmly in your hands - does the opposite. While it will feel very different, Bryson Dechambeau says a tight hold on the club sends signals through your body that the golf club isn’t going anywhere and that you can just send it…not bad advice from a guy who rips the ball nearly 400 yards. I can attest to this. I used to grip the golf club so lightly and, even though it was secure in my hands, I still felt like the club was moving too much into places it shouldn’t be…then one day I started gripping it really firm and amazing things happened…I got my accuracy back, the ball was traveling farther, and I putted lights out!
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0:00 You've Been Gripping the Club Wrong?!
0:39 The Secret to Hitting FARTHER
2:00 How Should You Hold the Club?
3:28 How You Hold the Club Can FIX Your Swing
4:45 The LONGEST Golfers Hold the Club Like This
6:24 This Can Improve Your Putting by 10 Shots!
8:05 This Improves Your Chipping and Pitching
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The voice changing stuff is funny as heck Tom! I almost died.
Yet another quality, funny video from my favorite channel across the pond
Thanks!! I'm glad you enjoyed the episode!!
Tom
lol the voice sound change... Im like so concentrated being serious on trying to learn... and comes the voice change. HAHAHA its the best. Thanks Tom !
LOL! I'm glad to know that you're enjoying my "lesson and a show" instruction style, Guss!! 😎
And with regard to being "serious", would you like to learn some key aspects of the swing I teach in a more structured manner? If so, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Tom
I’ve gotten more out of your channel than any other method in golf. Great stuff.
Thanks Jason - I'm thrilled for your improvement!!
By the way, since my channel's content is performing well for you, I am quite certain you will really enjoy and benefit from the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform in my online school. Have you enrolled yet? It will put you on the fast track towards really mastering this system and taking ownership of a consistent, powerful, low-maintenance, body-friendly swing. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews.
Keep up the great work, and I hope to see you sometime soon in the school!
Tom
My grip is naturally tighter after learning from you.
You taught me to pit out my elbows. Focus on shoulder pointing at ball at top of back swing. That naturally came with a tighter grip. Thank you for making me a competitive golfer!
@JayFloyyd - Thanks so much for sharing that; I'm thrilled for your improvement!!
Keep up the great playing and have fun out there!!
Tom
I’ve been advocating the breaking of this myth for years, especially for putting! Good job!😊
Thanks Ingvar - I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I'm happy to know that I assisted you in your myth-busting endeavors!!
Tom
Glad you clarified this may help with not flipping! Will try this later today!
I hope it helps you, Gabriel!!
By the way, I’ve found that with a proper grip and the correct grip size for our hands we can apply a surprising amount of pressure with the arms remaining “soft”. In fact, with my Jumbos I can pretty much clamp down like a vise grip without creating arm tension or inhibiting the wrist hinge. That would not likely be possible if the handle was too small for my fingers. Anyway, grip sizing aside, try firming up your grip to the point where you just begin to feel a tightening sensation activating the forearm muscles, and then dial the firmness back slightly until those forearm muscles return to a supple and passive state. Remember - firm in the fingers, soft in the arms. We're not introducing tension here; just control, power, and repeatability.
Have fun out there!
Tom
As always great stuff. Started holding some tighter and it does have better results. I also switched from interlock grip to 10 finger grip for the same reason.
Thanks! I'm glad it's working well for you, Tom!!
TS
Hi Tom... watched your video on gripping it tighter this morning... thought it made a lot of sense so tried it out in the mid week medal..
I play off 4 so not that bad but trying the firm grip on everything....... shot level par ( it's winter here) and new course record off yellows... very glad I watched your video this morning...👍👍👍
Wow - that is *_AWESOME,_* Nigel!! 💪💪
Congrats on your fabulous round, and thanks so much for sharing your success with this lesson!!
Keep it firm, keep it crispy!!
Tom
Tankyou Tom, one of the BEST advise ever!!!!!
My pleasure, Elisabeth - I'm very glad to know that this grip lesson resonated well with you!!
Tom
Good stuff Tom! On the longer to medium shots I use a firm grip, but at the same time, I have soft wrists and supple forearms! With gravities assistance, I then drop the club down in a controlled manner into impact! On putts and chips, I firm up the wrists to match the firm grip! Always enjoy your videos! Keep up the good work Tom!
Not sure about the firm grip pressure either. My grip holds the club not strangled the club. Just enough to control the path of the swing as the club free fall at impact. But nevertheless, Tom has a great swing.
Thanks John - I'm glad you enjoyed it, and it sounds like you are already doing this as described (as mentioned in the video, the grip is firm but the arms/wrists remain tension-free). Nice job!!
TS
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Come on Tom,supple wrist and tight grip.tighten grip and you limit your range the motion of your wrists.If you really lock down your grip you have zero wrist range of movement.
As always, great stuff.
Thanks Jonathan!!
Thanks Tom. Really helpful. Tighter grip leads to improved ball striking, distance, and direction.
I'm glad this lesson resonated well with you, Michael!
Can’t wait to try this!
I hope it performs well for you, Michael!
OUTSTANDING
Thanks Glen!!!
Love this Tom! Also one of my favorite things Hogan says in ‘Power Golf’ that the grip should be AIR-TIGHT!!
Air tight? Hmmm..... I don't think a "baby bird" would enjoy that, and I'm rather sure there wouldn't be any toothpaste left in the tube either.... 😆
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I appreciate your sharing that Hogan tidbit!!
Tom
Great video Tom. Love the comedy aspect.
Thanks Darren - I'm very glad to know that my instruction content and "lesson and a show" teaching style are resonating with you! 😎
Tom
Many thanks to you tom, I try it it really works...I improve a lot in my distance n accuracy..life good right now
That is fantastic! I am very glad to know that this lesson helped your ballstriking and consistency.
Thank you for sharing your success and keep up the great work!!
'Tom
I have tried to hold my club like a baby bird in the past. I felt at impact that I was not getting 100% of the distance I should get. Even if everything I have read said the opposite. I went back to a firmer pressure grip. I am glad to see that I am not the only one thinking that.
I'm glad you were able to get beyond the "baby bird" stuff and figure that out.
Grip pressure is something that is very unique to each of us, which is why conveying personal "feels" in this regard have led so many golfers astray. For example, a 2 out of 10 to a strong guy like Sam Snead may equate to an 8 out of 10 to another golfer. We definitely don't want that handle swimming around in our hands because we're so loosey goosey that we can't control the clubface. A secure grip and soft arms are what we're after here. That prescription will certainly resonate differently for different folks, but the key is that our grip pressure should give us complete control of the club while not introducing swing-killing tension that prevents us from properly executing the motion. Finding that sweet spot is a highly individual thing, and it is critical to consistently blissful ballstriking.
Keep up the great work!
Tom
Love ur content an ur crazyness man😂👌A few years ago I was putting and always comming up short. The signals from my brain were telling me I was hitting it hard enough to get past the hole yet it was still repeatedly comming up short!
I tightened my grip just on the right hand (I play right handed) and that started making my putts go the distances my brain was expecting and aiming for. I realised that the looser the grip the less rebound you get because the week part of the chain is the grip. The stronger the grip the more rebound you get and the ball goes more where I expect. When I forget and have a loose grip I'm nowhere near the hole.
Same as driver and irons. If you keep a tight grip with just the pinkies then it cuts out club casting and also allows the wrists and arms to be more relaxed and move freely giving you much more solid and consistent strikes, and 'lag'. If you haven't got a tight grip then the tention of the club weight is transferred onto wrists and arms and that's where ALL the bad shot come from when there is unwanted tention in the upper body🤷♂️
As a great coach once said, you have to loose control of the arms to gain control of the club 😮 go Zen 🖖
The only way u can do that is with 'a very firm grip' as Harry potters auntie patulia once said 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
LOL! Love the comment and I'm glad you're enjoying my content!!
Yep - No tension here; just control, power, and repeatability. Firm in the fingers, soft in the arms - just like Mr. Potter wielded his wand... 😆
Cheers!
Tom
Tom really weird that you posted this just now. Last week I literally started trying this in my net and noticed how much more consistent I was, feeling like I had full control of the club with a tight grip. Tried it on range worked, tried it on the course had a great round. Same with putts and chips)
I’ve been working on it now getting my feet into a really stable position at setup. Feeling like I’m just working with my hands and everything else is still. Big hinge and smashing the ball on the way down. Watched a video of myself and I actually turned my hips and shoulders better than when I was purposely trying to turn shoulders then fire hips with a sausage roll holding grip. Saw this video this morning and thought I had to share this. I feel more comfortable continuing this theory now the crispy fried chicken champ does it too 🍗
Awesome!! Yes - based on your detailed description I can with confidence bestow upon you my extra-crispy seal of approval. 💪💪😎
Thanks for sharing your progress and keep up the fabulous work!!
Tom
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Hey Tom, watching your videos last year helped me make improvements in ball striking and, more importantly, lowering scores. It is time to put it all together and learn the Stack & Tilt swing method proper. At the minute I have some of the elements of Stack & Tilt but cannot quite put it all together into a smooth Ben Hogan-like swing. Does your online golf school videos walk you through building the Stack & Tilt swing from the ground up? Thanks!
Sure does I subscribed to Tom’s channel about a month ago. Great channel.
Absolutely! The school is a comprehensive, structured, sequential learning platform. That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. Additionally, you'll find all my short game content (putting, chipping, pitching, bunker play), diagnostic and corrective tools for resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues, and so much more there. Thousands of folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf
I hope to see you soon in the school, and once you join be sure to enroll in the included SagutoGolf Community Forum where you’ll be able to access and participate in the great dialogue that fellow members are having on a wide variety of golf topics. You can start discussions, contribute to existing threads, post specific swing questions, make some new friends, and just share in the common bond of golfers from around the world seeking to improve their games and help others to do the same. I really think you’ll enjoy it!
Tom
👌, So weird, I just found All this to be true, changed grips to Medium with one wrap, the larger grip allows me to apply pressure comfortably, every shot was noticeably more powerful, and better feed back on every swing. Love your tips, they work 👏👏👏
That's awesome, Jerry!!
My question is: Who came up with the "standard" grip size, anyway? How small were their hands, and how many golfers over the years have not come close to enjoying their full potential as a result of trying to hold a toothpick in their mitts?? Just sayin'..... (And no, I do not have an affiliate deal with JumboMax. 😎)
Thanks for your kind words regarding my instruction, and enjoy your comfy new handles!!
Tom
Totally agree Tom, i don't wear a golf glove so I've always gripped my clubs pretty strongly, but I noticed you're iron seemed to have a putter like grip on it . Maxi
Jumbomax grips
Yes Maxi - As @fviii stated in response to your comment, I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
Keep up the great work!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf long fingers Tom , not only aids you're golf also as a terrific guitar player as well 😀 maxi
Love the voice highlights!
Thanks Chad - I'm glad you enjoyed the video!!
Tom
Stumbled across your channel. Going to try some of your tips. Love the energy
Welcome to "the dark side", Everett, where the spoils of "conventional" instruction - chronic inconsistency, physical pain, and endless frustration - yield to the fruits of body-friendly enjoyment of this great game for a lifetime. 😆
I hope you enjoy your tour of my channel. Please understand, however, that my instruction is not a compilation of band-aid tips and fixes for this problem or that problem. Instead, I teach a robust system that has countless thousands of golfers from across the globe and spanning all age groups experiencing the best ball striking of their lives. In this regard, here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Tom
😂 The club flying around the globe 😂 I suck at golf, but tune in to Tom for the comedy relief
LOL! I'm glad to know that you're enjoying my "lesson and a show" instruction style, Richard!!
By the way, there's no need to "suck" at golf. You can have a reliable and powerful swing too if you want. After all, it's really just physics and geometry, and those laws apply to the entire universe.... 😎 For an excellent starting point please check out my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”. It's a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
Thanks for your message!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf I’m in !
I am 71. My past golf mentors are all gone😢. This “ birdie analogy “ …Holy Gadzooks boy wonder “Tom”… where were you when I was 11 years old??? Thanks Tommy boy 🎉
LOL!! I'm rather certain I would not have been much help to you then, but better now than never......😎
I'm very glad to know that this "baby bird" lesson resonated with you, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Thanks!
Tom
PS: By the way, since you are liking my channel's content, I think you will also enjoy my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
I play golf with my grandpa and his friends. I’ve been working on my swing and they keep giving me tips just like “hold it like a baby bird” and “take it straight back” etc etc. SO GLAD I FOUND YOUR CHANNEL SO I CAN ACTUALLY IMPROVE ❤
LOL!! Sadly, many misconstrued and/or misguided teachings of "conventional" instruction - such as turning the shoulders level while independently lifting the club, shifting into and torquing against a firm trail side, actively rolling the hands through impact, etc. - have relegated generations of golfers to the vast abyss of chronic frustration (and chronic back/knee/hip pain as well). I’m doing my best here to clear these up one by one and put an end to this madness, and I'm very glad to know that my instruction is resonating well with you!!
Tom
PS: If you've not already joined, have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? That's where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level courses on shot shaping, power and distance, and much more. Thousands of folks across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Yes! I teach this to people all the time. Swing like your trying to break through a wall!
Nice!!! 💪💪
Thank you, thank you, thank you...
Thank you.
LOL! You are most welcome, Matt!
Thanks, I think I was trying the soft grip, no more when warms up I be using firm grip
I'm glad it helped!
TS
This just answered why I feel like I have to regrip at the top of backswing. Thanks Tom💗
I'm glad you found your answer to that, Sheila!
Well Done Tom...I'm going to check out those Jumbo Max grips
Glad you enjoyed it, Bruce!
It's definitely worth checking out the Jumbos, though I wouldn't suggest taking the plunge on your entire set until you've first given it a try on just one of your clubs or even on a demo if available. Personally, I love 'em!
TS
I can’t believe I haven’t heard this before 😳
I tried this (gripping firmer with the right hand) in the simulator and it works! 👍🏻
I can control the club much more and HIT the ball much harder through impact.
I have been to several golf schools and watched hundreds, if not thousands, of golf instructional videos, and (like you said) everyone says:
“Grip it lightly;
… like 3 on a scale of 1-10”
… like “holding a baby bird”
or “so light that someone could almost pull the club out of your hand”.
They said “gripping it tight makes your forearms and wrists too tight and “tension kills the golf swing”
BUT …
I never heard anyone say “grip it TIGHTER!”
… makes so much sense.
Maybe grip it at 3 with the left hand, but SEVEN with the RIGHT HAND.
I always felt like, with a light grip the club moved around in my hands, and that at impact it was more of a flick or flip since the grip was so light.
I remember some of your early videos and heard you say “you gotta send it” and “HAMMER it!”. But, how can you do that With a light grip? 🤷🏼♂️
I’ve also been confused about the right hand grip … “point the ‘V’ to the chin” or “point the ‘V’ outside the right shoulder”. With a light grip, nothing felt right.
Weak or strong? 🤷🏼♂️
But if you grip it firmer with the right hand, you know where it should be to HAMMER the back of the ball ☝🏻
They jury is still out …(until I can get outside on the golf course in the Spring when the snow is gone here in Chicago) 😏 but, I like it so far in the simulator 👍🏻
You've been with me long enough now, Parski, to know that I reside within the realm of the golf instruction "counter-culture".....😎 But if the accepted "cultural norm" is that assortment of misconstrued and/or misguided teachings of "conventional" instruction that have relegated generations of golfers to the vast abyss of chronic frustration, then I see nothing but opportunity on my side of the fence!
I'm glad to know that your first try with the firmed up grip pressure performed well for you. Going forward, just remember so you don't overdo it - firm in the fingers, soft in the arms. We're not introducing tension here; just control and power.
Well done!!
Tom
Hi Tom. Great video again. I've switched to mid size grips now which enables me to grip it tighter. 👍🏻⛳
I'm glad you liked this lesson video, Heath. Enjoy those new grips!!
Tom
@@SagutoGolfCheers Tom. Will do. 👍🏻
Funny and relevant. Great job
Thanks Jeffrey - I'm glad to know that you're enjoying my "lesson and a show" instruction style!! 😎
Tom
That was Great! 😂 Wish I was closer to you I would love to take lessons from you.
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Brandy, and I appreciate your interest! I had phased out in-person lessons awhile back so I could dedicate more time to my online school. I do, however, offer virtual private instruction and coaching as they are instrumental to the progress of my school's members. These are highly effective - as much or perhaps even more so than in-person based on the results and dramatic improvement my students are experiencing - and they can be done for any member from anywhere around the globe. You may learn more about these options here: saguto.golf/lessons
As for the online school, thousands of men and women from across the globe spanning all age ranges and talent levels are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
And here's a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Thanks for your message!
Tom
Big fan of your teaching, and swing and a fellow creator too! If anyone ever needed your help it is me, LOL I have more power leaks in my swing than the Titanic Had when it sank! I live in Spartanburg area, have a simulator in my shop and would love to comedown for a lesson and then follow up with video? I am back to the game after 10 years off, with multiple back and neck surgeries from a work injury. So, I have more Titanium in my body than anyone's clubs, LOL I need extra crispy!! Now my next question is this, what size are those grips?
Welcome back to the game!! Sounds like it's time to put all that titanium inside and outside your golf bag to good use... 💪💪😎
At least for the time being I have phased out in-person instruction so I can further dedicate my efforts in support of the online school. I will, however, continue the V1 Swing Video Analysis lessons as they are instrumental to the progress of my school's members, and these can be done for anyone from anywhere across the globe, school member or not. This enables me to put my eyes on your swing and offer some very specific observations and corrective action plans if applicable. The process involves downloading the free V1 app and then submitting two videos to me through the app - one down-the-line (captured from your stance line, not the target line) and the other face-on. You'll find more information about the V1 Analysis on this page of my website site: saguto.golf/p/lessons
As for the school, a significant percentage of the members are in their 60's, 70's, and 80's - i.e.: a smorgasbord of chronic ailments, physical limitations, back/shoulder/knee/hip pain, arthritis, and joint replacements - and through the school's comprehensive, structured, sequential learning platform they are overwhelmingly elated to experience the dramatic pain-free game improvement, seemingly effortless power, and resulting enjoyment that this swing affords them. It all begins with a proper setup which provides for a free-flowing motion. Upon that good foundation a repeatable swing which produces consistently crispy impact can be built.
You don't need the flexibility of a Romanian gymnast - or even of this far less pliable golf instructor - to execute this swing and experience great ball striking. I hope you'll give the school some thought.
With regard to the grips, I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
Tom
TomTom
All your instruction as I meld together continues to lower my scores. I.e.Divot target side of ball , tempo, grip pressure, weight forward, straight arms etc..
I wonder if you could review PRESHOT ROUTINE...I m always changing which makes time for 35 thoughts in my backswing !
Thanks again
Dennis
I'm thrilled for your ongoing improvement, Dennis!!
My best advice for you is to settle in on one pre-shot routine and just commit to it for good. An excellent book that may help you with this is "Fearless Golf: Conquering the Mental Game" by Dr. Gio Valiante. Another book that I like is "Play Your Best Golf Now" by Lynn Marriott & Pia Nilsson.
Tom
Hey Tom, great video! Do you still use the jumbo max grips that Bryson has on his clubs?
Thanks Frankie - I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I was using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large for much of 2022 and the first part of 2023. I had wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. I personally liked the feel as well as how they helped to keep my hands quiet through the zone.
Now, having said that, I purchased a new set of PXG's in the spring of 2023, and since they don't carry the Jumbo's in-house I went with their largest available grip, which is a midsize. I absolutely love the clubs, and I'm putting the factory grips through the playing test before deciding whether or not to have them regripped. There are no issues with the Jumbos and I still really like the way they feel; that's just where I'm at presently.
The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
Looks like Tom is rocking the JumboMax Ultralight Grips like Bryson. Ultralight is closer to standard grip weight but they are much bigger. They also offer a Tour version which is heavier and essentially counter-balances the club. They have a nice, firm feel to them.
You got it, Josh! I wanted to give the JumboMax grips a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. I started with the Tour and then switched to the Ultralites so I could get a better sense for the clubhead. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
TS
Love your videos!! They have definitely been helpful as they work with my style of golf. I am confused though. I just watched your video on holding the club neutral and with a light grip and now this one says kind of the opposite?
I'm glad you're enjoying my content, Shawn!
Grip pressure is something that is very unique to each of us, which is why conveying personal "feels" in this regard have led so many golfers astray. For example, a 2 out of 10 “baby bird” grip to a strong guy like Sam Snead may equate to an 8 out of 10 to another golfer. We definitely don't want that handle swimming around in our hands because we're so loosey goosey that we can't control the clubface. A secure grip and soft arms are what we're after here. That prescription will certainly resonate differently for different folks, but the key is that our grip pressure should give us complete control of the club while not introducing swing-killing tension that prevents us from properly executing the motion and/or robs us of speed potential. Finding that sweet spot is a highly individual thing, and it is critical to consistently blissful ballstriking.
By the way, since you are liking my channel's content, I think you will also enjoy my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” - where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner. Here's a link in case you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Tom
Yes, they have been chirping on about that one for a long time. The waggle should establish the right grip pressure. the digiti minimi and flexor retinaculum, in the left hand, work as antagonistic opposites in the waggle. when the flexor retinaculum becomes active it restricts the movement of the digiti minimi in the takeaway, whilst it pushes the club back. This directs force into the lower part of the right arm, whilst the digiti minimi pulls on the left side of the right forearm. The combined forces of the digiti minimi and flexor retinaculum, in the left hand, bend the right arm in the first part of the backswing.
I was just arguing this last week during a round!!! I don’t need validation, but man, it feels good! 😂 Thanks Tom! 👍
Well, even though you don't need validation, I'm happy to have provided it!!
Keep it crispy!
Tom
Hey Tom. Great video as always! Had a quick question for you. I was working on some things at the range today and an old golf pro comes up to me and tried to give me some advice (get your hands higher in the backswing, shift my weight to my trail side, and telling me I’m holding off the “release” of the club too long). I go along with it and work with him for about 15 minutes even though I don’t agree with his view of the golf swing and it’s ultimately setting me back. Any advice on how to tell these golf coaches that have been doing the same thing forever that I don’t want his advice. I started playing less than a year ago and I’m 24 so I’m an easy target for these guys lol.
I'm so sorry you had to deal with that, Jacob. Always be wary of golf "pros" scouring the practice range for clients, even if they appear generous with their unsolicited advice. You should be seeking them out if you feel you need assistance, and not the other way around. Why are they not busy with full calendars giving lessons? It reminds me of the plumber handing out in the Pipes and Fittings aisle at Home Depot or Lowes, "helping" unsuspecting customers and then trying to sell their services.
I suppose the best way to handle the situation is to express your appreciation for their willingness to help, but then tell them that you are working on something specific that your coach taught you. If they continue to press on or make some disparaging remark about how what you're doing is wrong, then it's time to politely dismiss them and say that you'll discuss it further with your coach.
So don't shift, don't lift, don't concern your yourself with any false notion of an active "release", and keep up the great work!!
Tom
Great channel......even better now that I know you're a Yankee fan.
LOL!! Don't say that too loud, Tommy - I know I've got some Boston-based SagutoGolfers out there too..... 😆
Saguto! Im back in the comment section with news after watching this video. I dropped 10 strokes and hit an 80 today on the course! This top alone has saved me with irons and fairway woods!! (Granted I’m 6’2 and a little lengthy) I was able to smack my 4 hybrid today 230 dead straight multiple times. I’m now destroying my buds that I play with and they keep asking me what happened with me and how did I get that much better in a month? I wanna keep this channel from them so bad 😂😂😂😂 They must not learn the forbidden secrets!!!
LOL! It'll be "our little secret" until such time you deem that your level of guilt surpasses the winnings you've collected from your befuddled buds..... 😎
That's awesome - congrats on your dramatic improvement!! 💪💪 I'm very glad to know that my instruction content and teaching style are resonating with you!! Thanks so much for your support in sharing your crispy ball striking success and keep up the great work!!
Tom
PS: If you've not already joined, have you considered enrolling in the online school and taking your learning - and your game - to the next level? This will give you an extra leg up on your buds in the event they prematurely discover your forbidden secret. The school is where - in addition to detailed lessons and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step, position-by-position from setup to finish - you'll find diagnostic tools for identifying/resolving swing and ball flight issues when they arise, plus advanced level instruction, and much more. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews. And if you'd like to first "dip a toe in the water" prior to diving into the school, then here is a link to my FREE mini course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”: go.saguto.golf/ That is where you can learn some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner.
Awesome video! What size Jumbo Max are you using ? Thinking of moving to these on my irons. Just installed the medium on my driver and love it
Hi Matt,
I've got the Ultralites in extra-large on all my clubs. Love 'em!
TS
@@SagutoGolf awesome and thanks! Love your content. Keep it up!
Thanks! Will do!!
Excellent videos... and you always add a touch of humour (English/proper spelling). Love it!
I sincerely appreciate the kind words, Mike, and I'm very glad to know that my instruction content, teaching style, and humor (darned improper Americans...😎) are resonating well with you!!
Cheers!
Tom
PS: By the way, since you are liking my channel's content, I think you will really enjoy and benefit from the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform for all the finer aspects of the swing (and the game in general) in my online school. Have you looked into it yet? Thousands of folks across the globe - including many in the UK - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews.
"You got the world by the.....HANDS!" 😅
Yes...precisely.... 😆😆
Your editing is Hilarious Tom 😂 I try to get my grip tight so my hands work as one unit. That way I don't find myself white knuckling.
Glad you're enjoying my version of "dinner and a show", Kenny!
Yep - keep it tight but not white for power and control. 😎
TS
Thanks, Tom. Great lesson. Firmer is better for sure. p.s. the grips on your irons look like putter grips.
Thanks Brian - I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
I wanted to give the JumboMax grips a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
Cheers!
Tom
Great video! I noticed your grips. Which ones are they? Do you recommend any ?
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Oscar!!
I was using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large in this video and several others for much of 2022 and the first part of 2023. I had wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone.
Now, having said that, I recently purchased a new set of PXG's, and since they don't carry the Jumbo's in-house I went with their largest available grip, which is a midsize. I absolutely love the clubs, and I'm putting the factory grips through the playing test before deciding whether or not to have them regripped. There are no issues with the Jumbos and I still really like the way they feel; that's just where I'm at presently.
The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
PS: By the way, here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
@@SagutoGolf Appreciate the response and advice on grips. I'll check out the mini course!
Tom.....great vids! I'm struggling with the 'straight arms pits out' approach. How do you keep from locking your arm (instead of relaxing) during this? Thx.
I'm glad you're enjoying my channel's content, Bruce!
If you stand up and let your arms hang naturally, they are straight and tension free, right? So while tilting forward to address the ball, simply take those same relaxed straight arms, form them into a "pits out" orientation, and there you have it!
By the way, it is important to understand that the videos, lessons, and drills on this free channel - while fully aligned with the swing method I teach - address a variety of topics, issues, feels, and/or common flaws/fixes from one episode to the next. They are certainly not intended to be taken as a comprehensive, sequential learning platform like the structured curriculum of my online school, which I strongly recommend to anyone who truly wishes to get on the proper path towards owning this swing. So many folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
Tom
Tom - Thanks so much for your quick reply! I plan to sign up early-mid February for your course. I just turned 70. Do you have a section mainly for seniors?
BTW - I can tell the timeline of your videos by checking your hairstyle in the thumbnail pic.
Tom - Thanks so much for your quick reply! I plan to sign up early-mid February for your course. I just turned 70. Do you have a section mainly for seniors?
BTW - I can tell the timeline of your videos by checking your hairstyle in the thumbnail pic.
@Bruce Knox - Actually, a significant percentage of my online school members are in their 60's, 70's, and 80's - i.e.: a smorgasbord of chronic ailments, physical limitations, back/shoulder/knee/hip pain, arthritis, and joint replacements - and they are overwhelmingly elated to experience the dramatic pain-free game improvement, seemingly effortless power, and resulting enjoyment that this swing affords them. It all begins with a proper setup which provides for a free-flowing motion. Upon that good foundation a repeatable swing which produces consistently crispy impact can be built.
You don't need the flexibility of a Romanian gymnast - or even of this far less pliable golf instructor - to execute this swing and experience great ball striking. I look forward to seeing you soon in the school!
Tom 3.4 (4th iteration of the 3rd short hair version)
Tom...what size grips do you use? They look like oversized. I switched to mid size a few years ago, and really like them.
Hi Richard,
I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
TS
Love your lessons and you've helped me so much with my swing where I'm in the low 80s. I'm a baseball player and you don't wanna hold your bat tight because it slows down your bat speed. That's why you always hear an announcer say about a player in a slump that he's probably squeezing the bat so tight. And the right hand of a hitter is normally very loose while in the box. I don't agree with you there but I still think you're the best coach on here and thank you for that.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that point then, Tom. As I conveyed in the video, a firm grip with tension-free arms is the ideal recipe - for golf and for baseball. This preserves our swing speed while providing complete control of- and full power transfer to- the clubhead or the barrel of the bat. When facing a 90 mph fastball, I didn't want a soft trail hand that recoils from the force of the ball interacting with the bat at the moment of impact. The pitcher wins that battle. Instead, I wanted the ball to encounter a mass of metal solidly reinforced by a firm trail hand, thereby enabling me to utilize the speed of the pitch to my advantage. "It is HIGH, it is FAR, it is....GONE!!" (Sorry - lifelong Yankees fan 😎)
Anyway, I'm very glad to learn of your golf improvement through my instruction. Keep up the great work!!
TS
I agree with this for full shots but for chips and finesse shots I’m loose as a goose. I use your stack and tilt instruction for full shots but inside 100 yards I use James Sieckmann’s “Short Game Solution”.
As a lefty I grip the club with the last 3 fingers of my right hand tighter and this has helped with my power fade. I too found a tighter grip with the putter produced a better stroke. Good stuff Tom!
Thanks Rick - I'm glad you enjoyed this grip lesson.
Keep up the great work!
Tom
Can you also explain the need to interlock or overlap? I don't do that with a baseball bat either, why with a golf club? Thanks!
Less flexibility in wrist with baseball style grip in golf. Interlock and overlap let’s you cock wrist more = more power. At least that’s my understanding as to why baseball grip is used by beginners, the familiarity. And graduate to the other two when have a better understanding of how wrists work in the golf swing.
@goravens18 provides an excellent response to your question. While there are obvious similarities between the baseball and golf swings, there are also distinct differences.
What size grips do you play with Tom ?
They look HUGE
I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large, Joe. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
TS
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂that’s all I know about that!!! Thanks Tom
LOL! My pleasure, Christopher - I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
Tom
I think you already told me... but which grips (size and brand/model) are you using?
I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
TS
This has messed me up for the 4 years I've been playing. Always struggling with tops and thins, especially on longer clubs. Because I had to increase pressure on faster swings which raises the club. You cannot swing fast with a floppy, loose grip. Increasing grip pressure and maintaining a constant pressure has been the single most dramatic improvement to my swing.
Nice job figuring that out!! Grip pressure is something that is very unique to each of us, which is why conveying personal "feels" in this regard have led so many golfers astray. For example, a 2 out of 10 “baby bird” grip to a strong guy like Sam Snead may equate to an 8 out of 10 to another golfer. We definitely don't want that handle swimming around in our hands because we're so loosey goosey that we can't control the clubface. A secure grip and soft arms are what we're after here. That prescription will certainly resonate differently for different folks, but the key is that our grip pressure should give us complete control of the club while not introducing swing-killing tension that prevents us from properly executing the motion and/or robs us of speed potential. Finding that sweet spot is a highly individual thing, and it is critical to consistently blissful ballstriking.
Keep up the great work!
Tom
PS: By the way, here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Tom are you still using jumbo max grips? Curious if you lost any feeling with them
I was using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large for much of 2022 and the first part of 2023. I had wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone.
Now, having said that, I recently purchased a new set of PXG's, and since they don't carry the Jumbo's in-house I went with their largest available grip, which is a midsize. I absolutely love the clubs, and I'm putting the factory grips through the playing test before deciding whether or not to have them regripped. There are no issues with the Jumbos and I still really like the way they feel; that's just where I'm at presently.
The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
Looks like you have an bigger club grip than normal like some putters have. Do you recommend this for seniors? I think it will help me stop turning over my wrist in the follow through.
I was using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large in this video and several others up until around May of this year. I had wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone.
Now, having said that, I recently purchased a new set of PXG's, and since they don't carry the Jumbo's in-house I went with their largest available grip, which is a midsize. I absolutely love the clubs, and I'm putting the factory grips through the playing test before deciding whether or not to have them regripped. There are no issues with the Jumbos and I still really like the way they feel; that's just where I'm at presently.
The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
Ben Crenshaw, Brad Faxon both say hold putter as light as possible, and Butch Harmon put a pressure sensor on tiger putter to guarantee he gripped lightly, and those three know how to putt pretty well so not sure I agree on putter grip, but I believe firm grip for full swing
Putting is a highly individual thing. I simply shared what worked well for me. Take it or leave it LOL. If a light grip puts the ball in the hole for you, then no need to change. I'm certain there are other great putters on Tour who deploy a firm grip, by the way. To each his own...
TS
My golf instructor was giving me hell for holding the club firm in my hands, told me I had to hold it light enough where he could pull it out of my hands. But I noticed that I could never get consistent shots that way. Holding it firm improved my consistency
I much prefer the repeatability - and thus the consistency - that comes from establishing the desired impact pressure at setup and maintaining that throughout the motion as opposed to relying on the assumption that the "baby bird" pressure at address is going to increase on its own to precisely the same degree each and every swing.
If firm pressure works well for you - as it does for me - then go with it and ignore any advice or instruction to the contrary. Firm in the fingers, soft in the arms. We're not introducing tension here; just control, power, and repeatability.
TS
Do you recommend jumbo grips as well then?
I wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. These grips keep my hands much quieter - which I personally prefer. Also, since my fingers don't wrap all the way around and dig into my palms, I'm not triggering any forearm tension or activating arms muscles that may otherwise have a tendency to take control of the swing.
The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly-sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
TS
Hi Tom. Great video on grip. Why does my 6-7-8 irons all go the same distance
No expert but you might wanna look at your handle pass thru impact...just a thought...good luck
Glad you enjoyed it, Dennis.
Chances are you're giving away all your stored up power in the downswing. Early extension is oftentimes the culprit, destroying our lag, adding loft, and creating a weak impact position.
Here's an impact drill that may help: ua-cam.com/video/Fe2kQ44azJ4/v-deo.html
Here are a couple on lag:
- ua-cam.com/video/oxW_7HjzacY/v-deo.html
- ua-cam.com/video/bLWekbGl7C8/v-deo.html
Beyond these, there are entire sections of my online school dedicated to resolving common swing, contact, and ball flight issues. Have you looked into it? That's where - among many other courses and lessons covering various aspects of the game - you will find very detailed instruction and drills that take you through the entire swing step-by-step from setup to finish. Thousands of folks across the globe are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result. Here's a link if you would like to know more about the school - saguto.golf - and here's a link to my free mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” if you’re interested in checking it out: go.saguto.golf/
TS
@@SagutoGolf Thanks for the information Tom. I'll give it a try.
I hope it helps, Dennis!
HadUncle who met Sam Snead who fathered the philosophy of “griping a club like holding a baby bird”. Firstly he hand huge hands plus hand shake which turned hands white and tingling. He killed many a chick attested by my uncle.
Thanks for sharing that awesome anecdote, Joe!
Grip pressure is indeed a personal feel. For example, a 2 out of 10 to a strong guy like Sam Snead may equate to an 8 out of 10 to another golfer. We definitely don't want that handle swimming around in our hands because we're so loosey goosey trying to save that little bird that we can't control the clubface. A secure grip and soft arms are what we're after here. That prescription will certainly resonate differently for different folks, but the key is that our grip pressure should give us complete control of the club while not introducing swing-killing tension that prevents us from properly executing the motion. Finding that sweet spot is a highly individual thing, and it is critical to consistently blissful ballstriking.
Tom
Tom, I notice you use Jumbo grips on your clubs. I've been thinking of regripping to a larger grip, and would love to hear your thoughts on why the jumbos make more sense? Thanks!
@Pinn Wal - I wanted to give the JumboMax grips a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. Beyond that - and as they relate to grip pressure - the Jumbos are large enough that my fingertips don't wrap all the way around and press into my hands, which is a definite trigger of forearm tension for me in smaller grips.
Having a properly sized grip is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Cheers!
Tom
@SagutoGolf thanks Tom! For reference, what size glove do you wear that makes the JumboMax feel right in your hands? I am trying to get the hands out of my swing as much as possible, but I've always been nervous to go too big and lose all sense of feel.
I wear a medium-large glove, but the fit is rather snug. The JumboMax's come in a variety of sizes, and I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
@SagutoGolf thanks for the info. I also wear a M/L and will definitely be looking at these for the upcoming season!
I got a question to ask you about grip. Saw on internet somewhere that the Thumb on both hands should not be fully extended but bent a little bit. Is this correct?
Correct, John. You don't want the thumb of the lead hand extending too far down the shaft. The correct "hitchhiker thumb" condition will promote a full and proper wrist hinge.
Tom
Tom, I noticed you're using JumboMax grips, I'm surprised that you didn't mention that they make gripping the club easier and firmer without added weight. Also, I have arthritis in my hands, and when I switched to the JumboMax it reduced the discomfort and pain I experienced with typical grips...
Yes - I was using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large for much of 2022 and the first part of 2023. I had wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone.
Now, having said that, I recently purchased a new set of PXG's, and since they don't carry the Jumbo's in-house I went with their largest available grip, which is a midsize. I absolutely love the clubs, and I'm putting the factory grips through the playing test before deciding whether or not to have them regripped. There are no issues with the Jumbos and I still really like the way they feel; that's just where I'm at presently.
The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
Hey Tom. What size and brand are your grips.
Hi Wayne,
I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
Tom
so, lob and bunker should be the only ones with a lighter grip? the rest firm? I will try this on Wednesday.
Sounds good, Charlie. I hope it works well for you.
Just remember - the firm grip is secured without adding tension to the wrists and arms.
TS
@@SagutoGolf interesting how you can have firmness in hands/grip, without it firming up the wrists, forearms etc,
@Charlie Frago - Try firming up your grip to the point where you just begin to feel a tightening sensation activating the forearm muscles, and then dial the firmness back slightly until those forearm muscles return to a supple and passive state. Firm in the fingers, soft in the arms. We're not introducing tension here; just control and power.
Tom It looks like you use an oversize grip. Is a larger grip ok for most players?
Hi Dan,
I wanted to give the JumboMax grips a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
Tom
I broke out laughing several times during this one
Same. He's is really a goofy dude. Very entertaining golf coach.
Who ever said that golf instruction had to be "blah blah blah"?
Here at SagutoGolf you get dinner and a show......😎
Glad y'all enjoyed it!!
TS
Hi Tom, aprecition for the nstruction. What about grip size. Maybe it's the vid but the grips look oversize. being a ball player, played a little myself I always wondered if larger say maybe oversize ones my work better for me. Cheers
I'm glad you're enjoying my instruction content, Spence!
I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
On a related note, I have found that with the proper grip and the correct grip size for our hands we can apply a surprising amount of pressure with the arms remaining “soft”. In fact, with my Jumbos I can pretty much clamp down like a vise grip without creating arm tension or inhibiting the wrist hinge. That would not likely be possible if the handle was too small for my fingers.
Cheers,
Tom
Thanks Tom. Got large-ish hands with piano player fingers so I'm definitely going to try 'em. Been using a Greg Norman type of grip that has always felt the most comfortable for me. Large grips may change that have to wait and see. Love the Ben Hogan stuff he is one of my inspirations in life. The man was tough.
Most enjoyable I've come across. Thanks!!
Sounds good! Definitely worth a try with those larger hands, and most JumboMax grip styles come in a variety of sizes.
Are you rockin jumbos Tom?
Indeed I am, Tim! I wanted to give the JumboMax grips a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. They’re not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy."
TS
What size grips are you using?
I was using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large in this video and several others for much of 2022 and the first part of 2023. I had wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone.
Now, having said that, I recently purchased a new set of PXG's, and since they don't carry the Jumbo's in-house I went with their largest available grip, which is a midsize. I absolutely love the clubs, and I'm putting the factory grips through the playing test before deciding whether or not to have them regripped. There are no issues with the Jumbos and I still really like the way they feel; that's just where I'm at presently.
The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
I got lesson and the coach said light grip thanks😊
That's not surprising LOL!
I hope this lesson helps you!
TS
@@SagutoGolf thanks you for giving me free lesson I will hope to make varsity this year. Can you make wedge shot I struggle with full shot
It is essentially the same swing with every club; just some minor setup differences and naturally occurring shaft plane changes as we graduate up in club length from short irons to woods. To demonstrate, you'll find towards the end of this episode some driving range footage of me hitting a 7 iron, 3 wood, and driver: ua-cam.com/video/o0xscMyN3v8/v-deo.html
Keep working hard on your swing, and also spend plenty of time practicing the short game shots - chipping, pitching, putting, and greenside bunkers. That's how you get to the varsity level. Good luck!!
Had a problem with swinging for the fences with no distance…turns out I wasn’t holding the club with my right hand as well as it should have been. Added 20-30 yards onto 7 iron.
Awesome!! Well done, David!!
Hol E cow Tom, That was a dwarf-on-golf moment ! Yaa, I like 4 to 5 on the 10 scale.
LOL!! Tim Conway was a legend. I sure do appreciate the comparison!!
TS
I read an article some years ago which stated to start off with a lighter grip as you automatically increase your grip pressure through swing and into impact....as gripping to tight causes tension in muscles which doesn't allow for fluid swing....
Hi Ron,
At the 2:15 mark of this video I said: "It's just those hands, not the arms being tight" .
A secure grip and soft arms are what we're after here, thus no inhibiting of any power sources including the wrist hinge. And I much prefer the repeatability that comes from establishing the desired impact pressure at setup as opposed to relying on the assumption that the pressure is going to increase on its own to precisely the same level each and every swing.
Thanks,
Tom
@@SagutoGolf by the way wasn't arguing with you ....just what was stated in the article....
No worries, Ron I wasn't arguing with you either; I was just raising my objection to the referenced article..... 😎
Im really confused Tom. This video suggest we should have a tight grip. But your 80/20 swing video suggest we should have a loose "4 out of 10" strength grip? Is there something im missing?
First of all, it needs to be understood that grip pressure is something that is very unique to each of us, which is why conveying personal "feels" in this regard have led so many golfers astray. For example, a 2 out of 10 “baby bird” grip to a strong guy like Sam Snead may equate to an 8 out of 10 to another golfer. We definitely don't want that handle swimming around in our hands because we're so loosey goosey that we can't control the clubface. A secure grip and soft arms are what we're after here. That prescription will certainly resonate differently for different folks, but the key is that our grip pressure should give us complete control of the club while not introducing swing-killing tension that prevents us from properly executing the motion and/or robs us of speed potential. Finding that sweet spot is a highly individual thing, and it is critical to consistently blissful ballstriking.
Secondly, I do my best to convey multiple “feels” or thoughts throughout the swing wherever possible. We're all different physiologically and psychologically, and something that resonates effectively with one golfer may not necessarily work for another. However, no matter the variety of suggested feels/thoughts offered for a particular element of the swing, they are all directed at getting different golfers to achieve the desired positions, motions, and ball striking results. This is one reason why the comprehensive, structured, step-by-step learning platform of my online school is so effective, and why It will make for a far more efficient, superior, and enjoyable learning process rather than haphazardly trying to piece things together through these channel videos that jump around randomly from topic to topic. Thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many seasoned, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - are now enjoying the best golf of their lives as a result of the school, and I'm happy to let their unsolicited testimonials tell the story: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews The lessons and drills provide the guidelines and set the boundaries, while allowing ample leeway for each individual golfer to infuse and exercise their own uniqueness. At just $14.99/month or $149.99 per year the value in terms of what you get for that price point is beyond comprehension, and based on proven results it represents by far the best golf instruction deal on the planet.
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Thanks,
Tom
Hey Tom are your grips thicker than midsize?
Hi Kevin,
I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large. I wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. These grips keep my hands much quieter - which I personally prefer. Also, since my fingers don't wrap all the way around and dig into my palms, I'm not triggering any forearm tension or activating arms muscles that may otherwise have a tendency to take control of the swing.
The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly sized grip is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
the buttery sensation is the only reason I play.
But do we really need any other reason than that?...... 😎
@@SagutoGolfyou and I don't but there are some who put score above everything and couldn't care less about the butter. I know a guy who, instead of hitting...say...a full 8 into a green he'll take a 5 iron and use this goofy 1/4 putter looking swing and roll the ball 140 yards onto the green! There is NO butter in that but the guy is good at that shot and can score decently doing crap like that the entire way around the course. don't know why it pisses me off but it does. 🤣
@jrhalli2 - I actually conducted a survey on this very topic some time ago. An overwhelming majority said they'd rather post an 80 with crispy ball striking than clank it around and shoot even par!
What size grips do you use?
Hi Glenn,
I’m using JumboMax Ultralite grips in extra-large. I wanted to give them a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. Beyond that - and as they relate to grip pressure - the Jumbos are large enough that my fingertips don't wrap all the way around and press into my hands, which is a definite trigger of forearm tension for me in smaller grips.
Having properly sized grips is critically important as they are our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
Former baseball player. I put the grip of death on it or 1) I throw the club or 2) I hit the ball straight right. I’m considering the jumbo grips.
I was a baseball player myself, so I know what you're saying!
Grip pressure is something that is very unique to each of us, which is why conveying personal "feels" in this regard have led so many golfers astray. For example, a 2 out of 10 “baby bird” grip to a strong guy like Sam Snead may equate to an 8 out of 10 to another golfer. We definitely don't want that handle swimming around in our hands because we're so loosey goosey that we can't control the clubface. A secure grip and soft arms are what we're after here. That prescription will certainly resonate differently for different folks, but the key is that our grip pressure should give us complete control of the club while not introducing swing-killing tension that prevents us from properly executing the motion and/or robs us of speed potential. Finding that sweet spot is a highly individual thing, and it is critical to consistently blissful ballstriking.
I wanted to give the Jumbos a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. These grips keep my hands much quieter - which I personally prefer. Also, since my fingers don't wrap all the way around and dig into my palms, I'm not triggering any forearm tension or activating arms muscles that may otherwise have a tendency to take control of the swing.
The Jumbos are not necessarily for everyone - and my fingers are a bit longer than average - so I routinely tell folks to "try before you buy." However, having a properly sized grip that feels both comfortable and secure is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
PS: By the way, here's a link to my FREE mini-course “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker” in case you’re interested in learning some key aspects of the swing system I teach in a more structured manner: go.saguto.golf/
Look up in the sky, is it a bird ? is it a plane ? NO it's a bloody big lightbulb !!! Thanks Tom..
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I'm very glad to know that this lesson was an eye-opener for you, Keith, and I hope it performs well when you put it into practice!
Tom
PS: By the way, since my lesson content is "gripping" to you 😎, I am confident that you will also benefit from my FREE mini course - “The Top 3 Things You Need to Be a Great Ball Striker”.: go.saguto.golf. If you haven't already worked through it, this is a great way to gain a fundamental understanding of this system as well as an introduction to the instruction style that has thousands of men and women from across the globe - including many accomplished, low-handicap, competitive players and spanning all age ranges from junior to super-senior - enjoying the best golf of their lives: saguto.golf/p/sagutogolfreviews
I always wet my hands before I grip the club?
it kinda makes sense in golf too but i always called it “bone stacking”
After I started doing the ‘Wring the Towel’ Grip that the great Golf Instructor (Pete Cowen) talks about, my game improved dramatically.
Awesome. Keep up the great work!!
TS
I think you may be missing something about the grip it softly analogy. I was told, only at address you hold it relaxed, because when we swing the club the grip naturally tightens up. If you put a death grip on it at address then you can’t have relaxed muscles, and everyone knows, relaxed muscles work faster than than tense muscles.
I don’t try to even think about my grip pressure anymore than I think about my grip on a hammer, some things just come naturally.
The best swing advice I have ever gotten is, “Don’t overthink it “ or you might get paralysis through analysis.
Hi Mike,
The main point here is that grip pressure is something that is very unique to each of us, which is why conveying personal "feels" in this regard have led so many golfers astray. For example, a 2 out of 10 “baby bird” grip to a strong guy like Sam Snead may equate to an 8 out of 10 to another golfer. We definitely don't want that handle swimming around in our hands because we're so loosey goosey that we can't control the clubface. A secure grip and soft arms are what we're after here. That prescription will certainly resonate differently for different folks, but the key is that our grip pressure should give us complete control of the club while not introducing swing-killing tension that prevents us from properly executing the motion and/or robs us of speed potential. Finding that sweet spot is a highly individual thing, and it is critical to consistently blissful ballstriking.
Thanks for your message.
Tom
@@SagutoGolf , exactly, I see so many golfers put on the death grip and then wonder why they don’t have any feel, not too mention no control or distance.
Keep up the good work, you’re helping a lot of golfers out there and I recommend your channel to anyone that asks me for advice on the golf swing. I am not a coach, so I tell them that you are and they can watch your videos and it will be more helpful than me giving them a 5 minute instruction when we’re playing. 😅
I have been playing for some time now and it just comes easier for me since I don’t have to think about it, but there’s a lot of guys that just keep doing the same things wrong wondering why they don’t hit the ball purely. I’m sure you see that a lot too.
How thick are those Grips!!!!! Wow
LOL!! I wanted to give the JumboMax grips a try for a few reasons, Jeremy, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. Beyond that - and as they relate to grip pressure - the Jumbos are large enough that my fingertips don't wrap all the way around and press into my hands, which is a definite trigger of forearm tension for me in smaller grips.
Having a properly sized grip is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
Tom
I played great one year when I had the lightest grip on the club….but I figured out it wasn’t because of the grip…it was because my wrists were loose….to me, if you can have a decently firm grip with loose wrists then you’re set up for success.
Absolutely!! I’ve found that with a proper grip and the correct grip size for our hands we can apply a surprising amount of pressure with the arms remaining “soft”. In fact, with my Jumbos I can pretty much clamp down like a vise grip without creating arm tension or inhibiting the wrist hinge. That would not likely be possible if the handle was too small for my fingers. As you say, firm in the fingers, soft in the arms - that's precisely what we're after. We're not introducing tension here; just control, power, and repeatability.
By the way, who came up with the "standard" grip size, anyway? How small were their hands, and how many golfers over the years have not come close to enjoying their full potential as a result of trying to hold a toothpick in their mitts?? Just sayin'..... (And no, I do not have an affiliate deal with JumboMax. 😎)
TS
@@SagutoGolf I had to find the loose in the arms feel with the baby bird grip….it’s funny you say that about standard size grips because I tried a mid size grip club once last year…an old hybrid my brother got at a garage sale and we were both blasting it with ease….I should probably switch grip sizes.
I wanted to give the JumboMax grips a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. Beyond that - and as they relate to grip pressure - the Jumbos are large enough that my fingertips don't wrap all the way around and press into my hands, which is a definite trigger of forearm tension for me in smaller grips.
Having a properly sized grip is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf.
@@SagutoGolf I think you may be on to something there because like I said it was an old cobra baffled my brother picked up at a garage sale….we took it to the range and we both were blasting it….we thought there was no way it could be the mid size grip….was it? I think now that you break it down like that….it was indeed.
@@SagutoGolf plus Tom….I have small hands and the standard grips still feel a bit small for me
Hold firmly AND don’t let the left thump stay on top but let it grip the grip! Best bonus, arm come together!
Bring back the sideburns!
Do I see oversized grips on your club? How is that working for you?
Hi Gerard,
Yes. I wanted to give the JumboMax grips a try for a few reasons, including the fact that DeChambeau uses them and we share similar swing philosophies. Since then, I haven't looked back. I personally love the feel as well as how they help to keep my hands quiet through the zone. Beyond that - and as they relate to grip pressure - the Jumbos are large enough that my fingertips don't wrap all the way around and press into my hands - a definite trigger of forearm tension for me in smaller grips.
Having a properly sized grip is critically important as it is our only connection to the object that is going to deliver us blissful joy or deep anguish, yet it is perhaps also the most overlooked equipment fitting component in golf!
Tom
@@SagutoGolf I also saw that DeChambeau is using them and I also saw some reviews on YT. Looks like something I need to try. Btw I like your video on grip strength, specially in relation to putting. I put so much better with a firm grip. Keep making these great video but also keep doing them your way. That has me laughing everytime
Thanks Gerard - I'm glad to know that you're enjoying the videos!!