Stack and Tilt | Tilt No Turn | Why Turning is Killing Your Game! PGA Golf Professional Jess Frank
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2020
- Most golfers turn their upper bodies too level too much moving the low point too far behind the golf ball. The Stack and tilt golf swing requires you to tilt your shoulders the correct amount and enough to make consistent ball turf contact with your golf club. In this episode i am talking Tilt no Turn. However, I am still turning but i am moving my body in a 3 dimensional manner Extending, Tilting and Turning:)
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Simple Take-aways:
1. Tilt no Turn
2. Tilt the lead shoulder down
3. Tilts and Extends the body
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looks like a good move for seniors!
Yes, Nancy helps a ton for seniors!
I am 63 yrs old, I had a few lessons from my local pro a few months ago and he taught me to do this, after much practice the results were quite incredible.I’ve been hitting the ball the best I’ve hit it for years.
The most important part is just one swing thought.It is just so simple.
@@quoman2232 that’s fantastic you have a good pro!
This tip helped me a lot a good few years ago, I often refer to it many thanks Barry .
Thank you Barry great to hear!!
Ah, that’s the most important thing. You have saved my game . Thank you
You are very welcome and thank you !!
Best golf swing tip ever and I've watched hundreds of them. Thank you Jess. Well done.
Thank you Cyril!!!! Appreciate it! Hope it helps you!
Great video Jess. I've swayed all my life and only yesterday figured out if my swing thought was left shoulder moves towards the ground it keeps me centred rather than swaying. I have just watched this which confirms my theory. Makes perfect sense. Thanks
You are very welcome Chris! Thank you again sir!
Thanks Jess. One of the biggest changes that I've made since adopting Stack and Tilt is to not swing in a way that my arms lead my body. With Stack and Tilt, my hands stay back and I feel like they are driven through the ball when I tilt, then I let my relaxed body follow through. I went from a 120 yard slice off the tees to 230 yards down the middle. All due to you, Nick Taylor, Tom Saguto, and Eric Cogorno. Many thanks.
Phenomenal Joe! That's great to hear. You've surrounded yourself with a great team!
Love this simple fundamental teaching Jess! Thank you
Thank you Paul!!! Appreciate it!
This is the best tip I have ever had. Thank you it makes so much sense
You are so welcome!
This is the best tip I have ever had it makes so much sense ,thank you
You are so welcome!
Omg.. best drill ever. Went from mid 80s to mid 70s. Now to work on putting and stop working on full swing! Thanks Jess
Awesome Richard! Great to hear! What helped you the most?
I love S &T. Makes pure ball striking much easier. KISS
Yes sir Duke!!
Jess, This video helped me to now be able to hit my hybrid, 5 and 3 woods flush. Awesome instruction, thank you.
You are welcome Craig!
Jess, I love the passion in your videos. I do re-flex (drop down) to add bend in my knees in the downswing. This allows me to turn my my hips (around) fully to avoid the chicken wing (all arms). Keep up the good work. Thanks, Brad
Thank you Brad!!
that's a really good drill to follow Jess, especially as I have arthritic knee problems. Great tutorial
Thank you Mike!!
Love all tilt no turn! I am 61 and an avid golfer, In the last 18 minths I have had back surgery and both hips replaced. The stack and tilt is great for me and my game is coming back. Thank you !!!
Hi Myron! That’s great to hear!!! Yes the extending and tilting gives your the necessary turn to hit the ball with power and accuracy ! Thanks for watching!!!
That is exactly my issue. Thanks for the this video!
You are very welcome!
One of the best ones yet especially the long arms
Thank you Thomas!!
This is exactly what Mark worked with me on my second lesson! In just 2 lessons my ball striking is improved dramatically!
Mark is a smart man! One of the greatest swing tips you can implement in your game. Changed mine dramatically! Thanks for watching Sean!
Good stuff Jess. Bandon Dunes shirt- love it! I made a trip there with my new stack and tilt swing. Bucket list!
Yes sir Mark!
Brilliant! You explained/analysed the (my!) problem really well! In fact -I hesitate to say this but, having attended a S and T day, this teaching is the best! You have rekindled my interest! Thanks again. PS Bennett and Plummer book rescued from a charity shop fate!
Thank you Ian! Glad you are enjoying the videos and thanks for watching!
Awesome tip Superman 🦸♂️
Thank you Rick!
Great presentation!
Thank you Robert!!!!
Thank you Jess. Very helpfull
You are very welcome Kim!
Hi Jess, started golfing 40 years ago, took lessons, was taught to shift back then forward... you know what happened next, hitting behind the ball, banana slice... stopped playing out of frustration. Fast forward 30 years, I picked up your system and 2 months later, I'm hitting the ball better than I every did, played my first round in 30 years and it felt great, actually used my driver and fairway woods. Thank you very much, keep the great vids coming
Awesome Rick! Love to hear it!
You are just Fabulous Jess .Amazing. Stack and tilt works I am 74 and results are showing in 3 to 4 days
Thank you Tarun!!!! Happy to hear it’s working!!
Awesome video. Stack and tilt, I’m hitting further and with accuracy.
Thank you Johnny!!! Great to hear!!
Thanks Jess great advise
Thank you!!
The original golf digest article for S & T showed two moves. Tilt toward target then tuck your butt under your back. When I do this correctly my arms get whipped into that nice extended post impact position. Less motion and more center face contact!
Thank you for watching Bob! Love it!
Great video
Thank you so much Frankie!!
Jess,
It is remarkable you bring this up today.
I discovered the same kinetic or biochemical result in the last 48 hours.
My interpretation for correct action is "Left shoulder down, chest bows to the sky" This moves center left and creates a geometry where you are centered and your head does not go right. Your chest will feel bowed and broad, shoulder to shoulder P2,3,4.
Keep that chest bow and width, shift pelvis left, then turn your extended bowed chest back to the ball P5,6,7,8.
You can open up as fast as you like and weight will stay left and balanced.
My head, which as the above Jess video shows, always wants to follow a shallow shoulder turn and slide right P1,2,3. Stays centered if I do this chest extension as my left shoulder goes down. It's all one motion. Then keep that tits up extension, slide left, and turn.down to the ball, bam.
This was a revelation, and funny you are describing and demonstrating it tonight, Jess.
Wow Charles love your detailed explanation! That’s what so great about stack and tilt there is detail when you need it and happy to hear your discovery!!!
Beautiful I love it
Thank you Rafael!
great video
Thank you Thomas!
Awesome video
Thank you Bob! I appreciate all of your support:)
Jess, this is the absolute holy grail of ball striking. This is coming from a 30 year turn-er. I love your instruction, it has made the golf game fun again, I'm passionate again getting out there to beat my buddies on the links. I love tilting and hitting it long and straight! Where can I send you money for this swing now????? LOLOL.
Thank you so much Tim! Just keep sharing with your friends! You can always take an online lesson via my game evaluation pay pal button on my website:)
Recently started swinging SnT. Lots of focus on weight forward. Ran in to some trouble lately. Tried to focus on shoulder down and it seems I fixed my issues. Seems that thinking about shoulder down, also automatically takes care of weight forward, whereas thinking of weight forward does not automatically take care of the shoulder tilt.
Thank you from Sweden.
Yes sir! The shoulders are important to how the weight moves throughout the swing! Thank you for watching and subscribing!!
Jess, great video, it clears up a lot for me. I have struggling for a long time on the this, just like you mentioned in the video. I would turn to start the take away and backswing. The problem is I cannot get back to the ball to hit it. I would stay on my left side and do exactly what you said hit behind the ball or thin it. Tilt is the answer to the $64,000 question and that is "What am I doing wrong?" Thank you sir.
Thank you Jon! I appreciate your thoughtful comments:)
Great video . What about the downswing ? That is where I’m confused.
I will do a downswing video for you thanks again!
Jess what is the angle of the waist forward. Shoulders to waist? Is it approximately 45 degrees? The arms go 45 degrees then the shoulders go 45 degrees, while the waist bent forward is 45 degrees?
Hey Jess,
Thanks for the great video.
One quick question - what is the weight distribution between both the feet during the back swing? Does the weight shift from the left foot at the top of the back swing ? Or does it stay constant on the left foot during the back swing and then increases during the down swing ?
Depends what you need. If you hit behind the ball I always recommend staying forward and more forward. But the extending and tilting automatically shifts weight between the feet.
Awesome. I fight the turn no tilt Jess too.is there a feeling to have to no turn only tilt on takeaway.
Weight forward and tilt the left shoulder to the ground. That should help:)
Haven't recently said Thanks to you for your channel. So THANK YOU JESS! Question: Should there be a third mantra to the Stack & Tilt swing, which would be maintain a relax posture through out the whole golf swing? IM an older golfer and when I tilt/extend at the top of the swing I'm pretty tight and my body wants to let go and hurry down to the ball.-Dave
You are so welcome Dave it’s my pleasure thank you for watching! You don’t want tension. In fact by turning your hips on the backswing that gives you more freedom
Thanks Jess... Does this give u a more in to out swing path
100% absolutely! Thanks Ravi!
This is great! Tried it yesterday nice draw almost every time. However there was a few I pushed out to the right don’t know what I did wrong with those. Only concern is how can I fade the ball with all tilt no turn?
Thank you Kevin! This should straighten the swing plane then you can work ball position and handle position
Great video Jess, is it the same with driver, tilt rather than turn?
Yes sir but you must extend and tilt going back through the back!
Hi Jess FrankThis is Dan Lindstrom the tucking of the chin comes in the comparison Nick Taylor makes of the conventional golf swing And the stack and tilt swing. Real good information let me know what you think. Thank you for your help looking to hear your opinion of his analysis. Thanks againYou’re 71-year-old student in toms River New Jersey.
Nick Taylor is fantastic! He puts out great information about Stack and tilt! Do you ever get down to the Boca Raton area? I think the tucking of the chin in the conventional swing doesn't allow you to make the proper pivot. Thank you again!
I got myself in trouble by extending not only my chest on the backswing but arcing my lower stomach. My sit-up bench overly exaggerated the extension that you advised in your videos. Good for the shoulders but not good around the waist. Tilting on the backswing seems to bring about the weight on the left side. This can be awkward since on the downswing the weight moves to the left side. I don’t want to fall back on to my right side while hitting into the ball.
No sir the weight moves forward forward and more forward never back!
I like the idea of tilting towards the ball. I’ve learned to focus on the use of my legs. All great power in sports is generated by how the lower body is used. In the backswing the right leg straightens and in the downswing the left leg straightens. It’s too frustrating to be simply trying to keep the head steady behind me ball. It’s easier to use the legs to keep the head steady.
Thank you Sir!!
It’s a new season and time to get out there with fellow seniors in NYC. I think I have experienced some left shoulder pain due to trying to raise my hands beyond a normal range. I will not be so concerned with thinking about Jack Nicklaus or Ben Hogan when swinging my golf clubs and only think about myself and a shorter swing until I get back.
I just started w stack and tilt after losing patience w too much backswing sway and inconsistent shots. What I noticed is that I am more aware of the legs and utilizing them for stability on backswing and for power on downswing if I just think about tilting shoulder down as my only real thought.
I love the idea , still not exactly sure what your doing when you just tilt , I really would like you to slow down so I can see you tilt , I have had the problem of tilting toward the target , you talked about that and it’s not correct, it looks simple but watching is different than doing . It looks great , having a difficult time duplicating it , Thx Jeff
Hey Jeff! You are tilting the left shoulder to the ground in the backswing and staying stacked in the middle. It’s simple once you understand the extension and tilt. Extension and tilt provide enough turn. This gives you the ability to hit the ball 1st then the ground. Hope this helps. Thank you again!
So Jess, we are pretty much swinging with our hips and legs!??
With the left shoulder/ right shoulder crossing motion- what is the trick to squaring the face at impact? Tendency to push or pull. Rarely just straight.
Keep the club head square to the arc. This will
Minimize face rotation.
Great tip....I cought myself doing that....too much turn.....off to the range
Thank you Robert!
@@JessFrankGolfAcademyBocaRaton went way better at the range thanks to your tip. This video will definitely go in my favorites
Yes sir! Love to hear the results!
Hey Jess I felt like when I did this my goof strikes were better but my bad strikes were caused by a head dip. Any advice. I do plan on coming out for a lesson when I can I’m about 40 minutes south
Awesome Jake! Thank you! Do the head on the wall drill. That will stop you from dipping.
This is the first video from you that I have seen. I think that you could refine your terminology a bit to eliminate confusion. We turn. Everyone does it. From watching you, I surmise that you are wanting rotation around your center, rotation being the optimal word. The turn you are describing as undesirable appears to be a swaying off the ball. Great video in describing what I see everywhere. This is my father to a tee! When I finally had him more stacked and making better contact, he passed away. At least he finished well.
Wow! Thank you for the story about your Dad. I used to play a lot with my Dad before he had too many injuries. You are correct about the no sway. But I still hear people on the lesson tee being told to turn. Yes, I agree extending tilting and turning is important. Thank you again for watching!
Just a little confused Jess - is the tilt direction towards the ball or towards the target and I always thought that the shoulders still turned on a circle with the left shoulder coming down?
Yes tilting is another way of explaining the shoulder tilting in a circle.
It might be hard to believe but you don't need to S&T in order to turn without moving your head. You turn on your neutral spine axis.
S&T is a 3 dimensional system to teach or play golf
Jess my name is Bobby I'm 64 years old I love the stack & tilt. But have trouble with full shot I can take a half shot with my PW and get a really nice crisp 100 yard shot but only 115yard full shot I think I must be flipping with full shot. Got any ideal what I need to do
Hey Bobby! I wouldn’t know until I saw your golf swing. Swing your 7 iron like you swing your PW and you should find success. I have a driver video power pivot that should explain how to make your driver swing longer. Hope this helps. I also do online lessons.
When you tilt ,your shoulders turn past 45° automatically! So in fact what you're advocating is "Just concentrate on the tilting down of you left shoulder pointing to the ball; when you extend your arms back behind your right shoulder, your "Turn" is already complete and you will already have turned your shoulders past 50° -and that is enough" . So there is "Turn" in this move, but it happens automatically/ simultaneously as you "Tilt" around the axis of your spine.
Any comments?
Hey TK! Exactly the point i am trying to make. When you tilt your shoulders your hips turn and you turn. So yes to your question:) Thank you!
I have bone spurs on my spine and my job is causing me to continue to hurt my back I love the game of golf but right now it's hurting me to play any way you can help
SHorten your backswing don't try to hit the ball so hard take an extra club.
Good morning just frank I was watching stack and tilt on another UA-cam and they were talking about tucking in the chin do you recommend that also in your stack and tilt then and no turn. Thank you Dan Lindstrom
Not sure what you are talking about tucking your chin? Are you talking about turning the shoulder under the chin? Let me know:)
What about the downswing ?
You are going to repeat extending tilting the opposite direction of the backswing
Can this technique be used for driver as well?
Yes for sure!
@@JessFrankGolfAcademyBocaRaton Is ball position for driver inside lead heel?
I'm very new to the Stack and Tilt learning system and I'm already seeing improvements in striking the ball and getting it up in the air and down the fairway. Do you have any advice about a Swing Thought on starting the down swing? My first swing thought that gets the whole motion started, is turning and tiling my lead shoulder down to point at the ball. On the down swing its more or less a blur,and that is were I need a mental descriptive thought to get it the motion started back down. I believe. Thanks Dave PS You are now booked marked and the notification bell has been hit!
Thank you Dave! Glad to hear ST is helping you play awesome! Tilting your right shoulder under your chin and swinging back up the arc on the front side will help.
@Dave: That's EXACTLY what I was going to ask. Why limit the tilt to the backswing only? To start the downswing just think of "replacing" the lead shoulder with the trail shoulder, you can generate tremendous speed. Of course there is still the issue of keeping the arms straight, etc. plus one more: The "plane" angle. I find I have to experiment with how shallow or flat my shoulder turn is, shorter clubs more vertical, longer clubs flatter, though I get the sense that the feel in general in S&T should be around, rather than up and down. Put down a stick where the ball would be and video yourself swinging, making sure your low point is in front of the stick. You'd be amazed how much you can shift off the ball in the backswing even when you THINK you're staying perfectly centered.
Recently when I have tried to emphasis the downward tilt, if I don't have most of my weight on the lead foot I hit behind the ball and take big chunks of dirt. In my case if i get the club back in the proper tilt and turn that goes along way to hitting a good shot and then letting the down swing more or less take care of it self. Golf for me is a work in progress and has been for many years. ☺
Hey Dave! You need to extend more on the downswing!
Dave Hey Dave do the motion slowly and get the tilting action built in and hit small shots in the beginning. Thanks again for watching!!
Are u tilting center or alittle forward?
Left ear, left knee, left shoulder tilt helping the body stay inclined to the ground hope that helps :)
This is the most overlooked by weekend golfer. Most people or some pro will said turn your shoulder. But turning shoulder and tilt is just different and gives tremendous different result at impacting the ball.
Yes 100% this is true! Understanding the tilt was the key factor in changing my game:)
jess your trail shoulder is moving to target, where is the no turn if your back is towards target ?
The tilt and extension give you the turn with the back to the target. Yes you are still turning but most people sway away and never tilt enough hope this helps:))
The most undertaught concept in golf
God, I wish I'd learned this 30 years ago :/
This is THE most important concept in golf, IMO
Yes sir !
@@JessFrankGolfAcademyBocaRaton Tom Saguto got me onto this concept ... good job here covering it ... I've been in 105-110 hell for years ... shot a 92 yesterday, and felt I could've done better. How? Tilting. My only swing thought, all day.
I'm do8ng it wrong, I need find a stack.and tilt coach
Check out the stack and tilt website instructor locator or where are you
Looks like a regular stack and tilt swing not sure if the difference. I was playing the best golf of my life doing this but I can’t get it back
Hey David would have to see your swing David. Thanks!
You do Have to make a turn, but the turn is made at the spine along its axis. The spine should be placed at the snake-like, the "natural " configuration.
However the spine could not rotate by itself, it relies on:
the longitudinal muscles beside the spine and the
abdomen muscle to make it section by section.
However, all the body parts beside this core part are collected toward the core part, including shoulders, pelvis, waist, ribs. Only when we tied up the body to be like a solid cylinder, then we got coordination.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Can you explain what no turn is? You turn your shoulder!
It’s only tilting which helps you turn correctly
You have a similar delivery style to the young man on SagutoGolf.
I love Tom! He's awesome:)
Super, Jess. One day, the snake oil “traditional ‘sway’ swing” salesmen will disappear and S&T will be the new norm!
Yes sir Martin! It’s proven to hit the all higher and longer and you can last longer!
You are turning. It’s just you are not shifting laterally off the ball?
Yes sir. I am turning too. Extending tilting and turning. Most golfers turn their shoulders way too much and move off the ball.
Looks like turn no sway to me.
Hey Rocky you are correct no sway all tilt no turn and the extending and tilting is giving you the turn.
Hey Rocky thanks for the comments and watching! You are correct the extending and tilting is giving you the turn.
@@JessFrankGolfAcademyBocaRaton tilting is turning when there is no turn. downswing completes the backswing.
Hi Jess
How are you.
Regards
Manzoor
Hey Manzoor hope all is well!
Why were there 2 buckets of balls?
No reason but thanks for watching!
Get yerself some old skool blades irons.Then,. get a Tee time at Western Gailes near Royal Troon Scotland. The wind will be stronger than a BREEZE🤣 & the only time you will have a level stance is on the Tee box.. difference between TURNING / TILTING Will be the last thing you'll be thinking about.😂 because that's PROPER GOLF.🥰🥰🥰
Hey John! My bucket list trip! Trying just to stand up is tough their but does not mean your fundamentals go out the window:))
You mean no sway?
It’s a combination of turning and sway that the tilt helps
slight differnce of opinion here: ua-cam.com/video/Lb46_xqqaq0/v-deo.html i know, there is nothing special about the reverse k
Oh yes the reverse K swing. Depending on what’s going on with your swing is what you need to apply or feel. I had a reverse k for many years and continued to lose distance to a point where I was driving the ball inly 240 yards and when I applied all tilt no turn my yardage jumped to 280-300 yards.
@@JessFrankGolfAcademyBocaRaton that's just it. the hip becomes an obstruction in the downswing, with the reverse k. i think the most high profile player to get messed up with the reverse k was luke donald. he seems to be coming out of it at the other end now, though. i was born with an extra rib on my left side; which caused a rib inversion, and i had the worst reverse k ever, before i had the rib removed. but, even then my swing had become moulded. i got out of it by cocking my head to the side and then pressing down with the left side of my head. that makes the left hip relax. the key is to get into a level left position. and, though rus advocates the reverse k, when he hits the ball he moves into a level left position before he unwinds in the downswing.
jess you keep calling a sway as a turn, i am total messed up
Hello Claude! Extension Tilt and Turn! You are of course turning but most golfers turn way too much and don't tilt or keep the inclination to the ground. Hope this helps!
Are you still teaching Stack and Tilt ?
Yes sir! Stack and Tilt is a system for teaching and playing golf based around a 3 dimensional description of the swing
@@JessFrankGolfAcademyBocaRaton hey Jess how do I go about sending you some video of my swing. I’m just now getting into the Stack and tilt system, I’m a huge fan of your work!!
www.jessfrankgolf.com/virtual-lessons-lp/
@@trippjones7489 thank you Tripp! www.jessfrankgolf.com/virtual-lessons-lp/
@@JessFrankGolfAcademyBocaRaton ok Thanks Jess 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
What r you talking you r still tilting and turning. I’m very confused???????
I am turning but the turning is coming from the extending and tilting .
Pure rina. Lol
You are turning though.
Extending and tilting is giving me the turn thanks for watching:)
You are turning and tilting at the same time. What you do fail to show is the hip slide towards target on the downswing. This is a poor demonstration.
Yes the hip slide happens towards the target. Your hips do not back up. Thanks for watching and commenting Barry:)
good advice..but you are turning
Thank you Bob!
He has no clue that he is in fact turning.
Yes sir I know I am turning but I am not trying to turn. Most golfers turn too much and their shoulders move too flat. But yes I know I am extending tilting and turning:)
@@JessFrankGolfAcademyBocaRaton what you are speaking of is shifting not turning. Please get a clue before declaring yourself an instructor.
All tilt no turn, but your turning the entire time? Lol. Horrific video
Thank you for your positive feedback! Have a great day!
This is the best tip I have ever had. Thank you it makes so much sense
You are so welcome!
This is the best tip I have ever had. Thank you it makes so much sense
Thank you Edna!!! My pleasure and thanks for watching!!