I used to play neverwinter back in like 2018 before level cap was made 20 and i would just like to say that every single leveling zone has been GUTTED from what it used to be and that makes me the big sad. I remember it used to take you like a few days to clear each zone, you really got connected to each story and really felt your characters story progress. I recently replayed neverwinter a few months ago and i did the entire Main Story in like 10 hours and hit max level content so fast i actually wanted to cry a little. DnD level cap is 20 because it will take you a LONG time to get there and that leads to a LOT of character development through that time spent.
Yeah, I started with my character before the level cap and played quite a while, then took a long absence leaving the main character at 40-something level and having nothing better to do, returned to the game around the COVID lockdown. I remember being quite surprised finding my character at the low 20 level, thinking they've decreased my level for some reason. Anyway, the game used to be much more fun, there was a bigger sense of achievement and your leveling felt earned. Nowadays, I am seeking the best items to upgrade my characters (as most important stats come from the items once you hit level 20) instead of enjoying the storyline. I still look forward to exploring new areas, but it all feels rushed now.
The old leveling areas were a mess though. You would get to level 20 before you even did most of them. Now they even added a training center thing where you can learn the controls which is good because it took me like 2 months to figure it out.
14:00 this lighting effect is called "Bloom", im pretty sure it was used so much in the 2000-2010's era of video games because it was a new technological improvement in lighting engines, thus almost every game wanted to take advantage and market their game as "next-gen", kind of like how games today show off RTX graphics.
It's ok they fired a thousand employees just before Christmas and now the CEO deployed her golden parachute. I wonder if Cox in Hasbro goes human hunting on the weekends?
You made a point during the progression which I feel the small community always holds back from sharing. There is plenty of content to approach for a mid game player to group and grind. However, most are considered "secrets" as the experienced players would prefer to profit; rather than let the average player impede on their cash cow. Even at 75k rating as a returning player you feel like its a secret society of information being held back; when you simply want to grind something new, and make some profit. You're pushed to believe you need 90k rating to even think about something worth doing. Its very unfortunate and turns a lot of players away. They are given this impossible gap they are expected to close from people who haven't experienced "grinding" in years. I haven't heard a single mention of farms for low levels in the past two months from anyone but myself since reinstalling. No one talks about undermountain expeditions. No one talks about dread ring enchantment runs. Sharandar shattered diamond farms. Masterwork recipe farming. And I'm sure there are 100's more I've yet to discover either. Source: 1600 hours played, and currently still - putting in more hours than I wish to admit, daily.
You see I know about sharandar, dread ring, and masterworks. However I didn't know there was money to be made in undermountain. Icewind Dale is an ok one with the corrupted overloads. They sell for about 40k ea on ps4/5. New player friendly too
14:45 you can use your cursor by hitting Alt at any time 21:21 i think if you chose random dungeon it goes by faster, it was like that few years ago when i played NW
This game used to be fun. As a D&D player I found this game when i got my ps4. It was fun to level my warlock up and there was a time when you can make different builds and be creative at it not the cookie cutter builds we got after mod 16 dropped. Before that mod it wasnt so p2w, i used to farm and exchange astral diamonslds into Zen and get my VIP every month, i really didnt need to use the Zen store other than for that. Then, after mod 16 I found myself using real money to buy things to refine enchantments and other utilities more and more to be able to be close to end game and help my guild in endgame content. I spent 4 yrs in this game, made friends that i truly miss but after all the money and time I dedicated the decided on one of the later mods to overhaul stuff, again. All the enchantment were obsolete. I put on with the previpus overhauls but this one just pissed me off bc it was like everything i did was for nothing bc the devs could just do away with all of it and we the players had no say no options....excpet leaving and thats what i did. Josh Strife Hayes has a vid on this game and its heartbreaking bc i feel that, i loved this game but the this game doesnt love its player base back. I miss it but whenever.i go back to see how its doing its like seeing an old friend degrading deeper and deeper into self-destructive tendencies and not being able to save him from its self-impossed demise.
Haven’t played for a number of years but on a whim decided to check out video’s to see what was happening to Neverwinter these days. I agree with everything you say. I used to love this game but following the massive changes made by the devs the game was completely ruined for me.
You said everything.... I stopped at mod 18 but couldn't stand my frustration so I decided to leave I was at top 20 WL's in the game back then ....so frustrating.... specially if you log in these days
The fact they let you grind AD for zen is what eventually killed the game. It made it so people never had to spend any money for zen so they cooked their own business model.
I know exactly what you mean about the lighting/bloom effect that makes everything glow, almost like a filter. Reminds me of Dragon Age: Origins but also the original Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.
@@sunblade704 No, I do have it disabled. Shaders on high with no shadows is what triggers this one. It's the way everything shines all the time, like its made of plastic. But if I use lower than high shaders you lose on detail and everything looks 2D, so I just deal with it. Shadows on high also mitigate that but fps gets torn apart in zergs.
I used to play Neverwinter on my Xbox and I really miss it. I’d have to start all over though, since I was playing on the family Xbox and stupidly don’t have access to that Microsoft account anymore (long story). It really saddens me that they nuked the leveling system. I guess I won’t really miss it since I started over but I remember being very close to level 60 when I stopped playing.
Been playing this game for a couple of years. Used to be level based but switched over to level 20 cap and item leveling. And made and quests into Campaigns. The community is very friendly and will be asked to join a guild immediately lol
I played this game when it first came out, I was SO excited for it and kept my eye on it for when it would be released. I love DnD, I grew up on the Dragonlance and Drizzt books, and I played the Neverwinter Nights game and its expansions to DEATH. I loved this game in its early years, it had so much heart, and the Foundry was AMAZING, player-made dungeons you could run, going from very simple to incredibly immersive and compelling, and even incredibly quirky and funny. I spent more time running Foundry content than the game itself, it was so fun. Sadly, the game steadily went downhill, it became more monetized, got rid of the Foundry, and though when it first opened they were making new races that were added free for everyone, you just got to play the race months earlier if you paid, if I remember correctly. I was really disappointed at every change made that continued to chop the game up and make it worse, more predatory, etc. Changing the leveling system was the last straw for me, as I love the leveling process and watching my character go from almost a peasant to the savior of the world. It's just... Really sad. It was such a good game, but greed killed it... They went way too hard on monetization. Most people I know are more inclined to buy from the shop if they're not being annoyed into it and having locked off content thrown in their face every five minutes.
For the mouse cursor thing, I can't remember exactly since I haven't played Neverwinter in a while, but basically every action combat game has either alt or ctrl to activate the mouse. Some games have it as a toggle, some games you have to hold it down. But yeah, it should be one of those buttons.
Yeah, I saw one of Waydots videos and I thought he was like a MMO veteran and played like a bunch of different types of MMOs atleast. Really caught me off guard when he got caught on gaining cursor control. When alt and or ctrl and etc. are the default cursor control button for like every MMO ive ever needed to turn on cursor control in.
I played this Beta when I was 11 or 12. Crazy to see it is still alive, I was a huge Champions Online player around that time, and the same company made this game so I was hooked on the beta. But the game completely fell off my radar with schooling and well now I'm here, reminiscing about this game 12 years later. Think im gonna have to give it a go for nostalgia.
try out some D&D online at some point, a game that I would really love to see getting a remake or a sequel of some sort that takes the unique gameplay elements the game has and streamlines it for more modern sensibilities, I think that would be amazing
@@blacksabbath2559I’m playing ddo after beating bg3 twice and I’m enjoying it. Needed some more d&d content, considering I’ve played through all three bg’s, neverwinter nights 1 and 2 also lol
I like these videos. Neat way to keep an eye on different MMO's. I was hoping for another video of SWTOR content, though. Been playing the game myself, and it's been a blast!
I hate that they changed the leveling process. I tried getting into Neverwinter again after I stopped playing for a while and just hated what they did. I also felt like I just couldn't find any type of loot at the beginning except for what NPCs gave me. Stopped at Lvl4 or so because I hated it so much.
I hoped on Neverwinter as soon as the pandemic began during the first lockdown in 2020 and spent 4 weeks grinding HARD. There is definitely fun to be had, but I had no luck finding any groups until about 6pm my time. I agree this game should absolutely be cross play.
Thank you for your honest opinion of this game. I will play this MMORPG, as it does offer some of the gameplay factors I look for in a game whenever I'm bored with WoW. However, I won't expect to be completely enthralled by its gameplay. I'm glad you took the time to do an in-depth evaluation. Again, thank you.
Queue time for dungeons and raids are a nightmare for a DPS role, but if you play as a Tank or a healer it's a different story. The problem is, tanking and healing needs more experience especially on epic dungeon, since mechanic matters. Maybe on normal dungeon a high gearscore dps can carry you but not on epic, tank and heal were the key, that is why they were so rare thus the queue time for a DPS role became so long.
You are joining the wrong Group Ques .. join Random Group Ques .. the Randoms have a Daily Bonus that people do. The specific private Ques are for designated groups and guilds looking to run content. Also group Heroic Encounters are spawns inside the Campaign/Adventure Zones that are meant for spontaneous ad-hoc groups to overcome, they are listed on your Map.
If Secret World is still up you should check that out. It features a different type of leveling system from other MMOs I have played. Your level is based off your gear if I remember correctly.
well, the reworked version of it - secret world legends is still up on steam, though it's as dead a game as it can get and it's god awful compared to the original SW
The worldbuilding and questing/lore in that game still has not been topped by any mmo to date imo. Very sad ;l - if it had better gameplay it would have popped off.
My brother and I came back to the game and we have the time of our lives. No other mmorpg give us this amount of fun and we tried em all. Try it with a friend you will not regret it.
I was a long time F2P player years ago before this game even went to console. To me, it went downhill after they gutted the levels and dungeons. It became similar to WoW now where Zones aren't separated by levels anymore, if you become level 15, your mobs also became level 15, etc. That also meant low levels were now grouped up with max levels in dungeons, so that stopped being fun since you couldn't really gauge your progress against our peers anymore because you were vastly out leveled and out geared. The daily quest grind was also so crazy long, it made it insanely tedious to min-max your character's stats. If you also had Alts, yeah it's rough. Expansions made the dailies feel even more gruesome. All that said though, man this game was so fun back then. Assassin, GWF, Control Wizard were my top three classes.
a big part of the game though is playing with other players. if you are not playing with people you know, you should really join a guild in a mmo. most of the players in neverwinter form a party and private queue into the queue. but again, as the genres name implies, its a multi player game, and if you arent playing with people you actually know, you should engage with people in the game. in my experience, joining a guild in a mmo is one of the most essential things to do.
If you want a true Dungeons & Dragons MMO experience I can recommend playing Arelith, a Neverwinter NIghts multiplayer server. It is a more sandbox experience filled with stories and players with unique stories. Maybe if you're trying to find a real D&D mmo experience that could be it.
I played Neverwinter for many hundreds of hours between 2014 and 2018, which is really when it was in its prime. I loved every single thing about it, it's probably the game I've loved most in my whole life. It's heartbreaking to see just how far it's fallen and how much of its quality and enjoyability it's sacrificed to squeeze every penny it can off its shrinking playerbase. I miss Neverwinter so much
I have been playing it with a friend recently, we just reached level 13 grinding at our own pace, from what we have learned this game has mostly people who play late game, and the best way to access content is joining a Guild and getting boosted by them to get to the late game
I was obsessed with Neverwinter Nights and its single player versions in the early 2000's. Even to go as far as getting tattoos of it while at University. BUt i just couldn't get into the MMO. I want to lose myself in the world of Forgotten Realms and the Sword Coast. But at the time it didn't scratch the itch.
I’ve been playing Neverwinter for years, and I love it. People can say what they want about it, but you can get to endgame enjoyably without having to pay anything. Using money just expedites the process and in the end doesn’t actually give you an edge over anyone. Paying money also, for me, ruins things because it’s the journey that’s enjoyable-you have to, you know, actually play the game.
@@DionTalkFinancialFreedomYou do skirmishes until you have good enough gear to run dungeons. Meanwhile you do campaigns which have weekly limits and adventures which can be played as you please to completion. There's more than that but those are your options at this point.
I quit because of the changes every year that forced you to farm again and again making your previous progress pointless. And destroying paladin class with new dnd rules, I will never forgive.
It was so fun back then, levels, stack all in power, Xuna, Anything on Zen market was auctionable, but most of all the thing i miss is companion training. On a long run multiple character uff but still doable.
the problem with neverwinter is the huge grind to get good gear, it takes forever and it's a little demoralizing when you can just buy it for real money
When you open the lock boxes you drop tamalunas, with them you go to the NPC and exchange them for compenion or mount coins, I warn you to focus on the mount coins first... Oh yes, buy them. Legendary mounts (red) bound acount for your character.. Yes, grandma will need 10 in total, so with the tamalunas you buy mount currency (you will need 200 for each mount) and upgrade 10 to the mythical thus earning 6 thousand (or 6k ) of item level...
I think Neverwinter is great for beginners with MMO RPG games, it is easy but at some point you will get tired of repeatable content. And constant change of best gear. I played 3 years in total and gave up in the end - due to huge changes in game that ruined all my 3 years progress. Now I am playing The elder scrolls online and this game is some much better, but definitely Neverwinter was fun in the past and I met lots of great people there. Neverwinter always will be great for D&D fans.
I have been playing neverwinter since 2017. For years this game gave me so much joy and fulfillment. I recently moved from Xbox to pc. The Xbox playerbase is probably the most healthy out of all the platforms and I don’t feel like restarting on pc as I’ve grinded to true endgame, completing the most recent trial dropped. I don’t log in now unless my friends ask me to play. I upgraded a guild all the way to max level with a very healthy amount of players, but it saddens me that there’s nothing pulling me back to the game like it used to. This was the game that got me into gaming. It feels like there’s truly no new content being released, it’s always “here’s a new chase item that everyone will return for and then quit again until the next mod”. All the campaigns feel the same.
I don't want to echo the comments of everyone else but as a neverwinter player who has spent thousands of hours in game since BETA (OG of NW) I have to agree with all the points made. The game devs got greedy, you may not have seen the aggressive side of the games MTX or didn't outline it in the video but the game was once a gem but they nickel and dimed the player base down to the base Stockholm syndromes. Sadly I am one of those players that comes back occasionally to be enviably disappointed. The game was so good and sadly its just as you put it in this video. Yet there is still a lot of content in the game, it does get better, just maybe not in time to save new player retention.. Thanks for the video dots.
Used to play this so much. My problem with the game was the monetization and every new dlc made all your old gear obsolete and have to basically start over with a new set just to survive a new dungeon 500 times and that was it
You weren't wrong about your daily powers. So essentially the game use to be based around 4E and daily powers for the tabletop was once per day. But using the name daily for the mmo was a bad name choice on their part. The reason for the level up per story , aligns with how people level up characters in 5e. Rather than using XP per encounter, DMs tend to level up player characters, when a certain milestone is reached :). Great video
First thing friend, there are two currencies in the game, Zen which you buy with money and Astral diamond (AD), AD you only refine 100k (100 thousand) per day... With it you use it to buy items at auction... Now the zen you put the VIP... The advantage of being a VIP is that you have many benefits, just read it in the game.
u missed out on the random queues. thats where the early game players do group content. the random skirmish, dungeon and trials. they have improved the new player experience and progression with the heros path line of quests
This game's hayday has long past. It was great years ago when there was a reason to go out and do each campaign because they were reasonable to do, but now they just keep the old ones insanely bloated so you're incentivized to pay to get max completion with zero time spent. It's quite literally hundreds of hours saved for about $40 USD for each individual campaign. Truly it's just saved though, as there's no difference in how they're handled for the most part. The level cap used to be 60, eventually bumped up to 80. It started showing cracks around the first level increase, and just has fallen flat since then. Part of the reason for the levels feeling so weirdly compact is because this was first based on D&D 4e, which had 3 tiers fo Adventures. Fresh Adventurers, levels 1-10. Paragons, which were level 11-20. Epic Adventurers, which were 21-30. They doubled the levels to make it so you had more incremental gains, and you actually gained experience. Then with 5e, they eventually pressured Cryptic to compact it down to 20 levels. 20 levels was the standard before 4e, and is the standard they returned to with 5e. Just so many times they mishandled things, and the game's gotten worse over the years as a result. It's now a hollow shell of what it was, with only the die hard fans remaining.
The game had some potential, the developers folly was believing their fan base was dumb as a brick. Arcade mechanics, big flashy numbers and subsequently avoided like the plague by many.
You need to do campaign to get boon points. You don't have to grind them all, there are regular events that give you 2x campaign currencies as well as "genie's gifts" which basically you can use to buy campaign currency with. There are also buyout tokens, if you plan on spending a little bit.
This must be the best console mmorpg trust me! Everything in Zen market wont give you advantage everything you can farm up and not pay too win! Game changing to better and better! Love cambat and skills
The random queues don't work for me most of the time since the changes but there are always people looking to group up in Protectors Enclave. It is funny they made changes for new people to play the game but from the reviews, new people are not liking it.
Played Neverwinter from 2013-2017... I do not recall their questing being streamlined this much. Was this something when I was playing as well? I will hop back in with an open mind and see how I like it. Also, use ALT to get the cursor to appear. That is the best way about it.
Back in my Neverwinter days, It was extremely fun. Yeah the grind got real but as an avid Runescape player, I'm comfortable to with grinds lol. But when they streamlined it, made the 20 level cap, made it more P2W, it lost its spark. What was the point of putting a good amount of hours into the game when it only takes 5-10 hours to max depending. I went back to Dungeons&Dragons Online to get my D&D fix after I took a step back from NW(even though i still grab the free game codes haha)
and the reason the que doesn't work is because the population of players has dramatically decreased in a large percentage, so no enough class to cover roles anymore
I've never had so much fun and so much heartbreak for a single game. I have so much more hours in this game than wow and final fantasy XIV combined and the immense dread I ended up feeling with every negative change felt worse that some breakups
Yes, there was ante xp to evolve your character (before in my time it was lvl 60 then 70 and then 80 and 90) they eliminated this in the dragonbone valley campaign, and you only evolve from 1 to 20 (max) by doing quests... today what's the rule is Item Level (campaigns need to have item levels)
I played Neverwinter for about 3 and a half years up until mod 16 i think it was. The changes coming had more bad reviews but i tried it and didn't like it so quit and began playing eso. I did see a video towards the end of 2022 showing changes to the game that made me give it another try for a few months last year but in the end the game is still bad. F2P, P2W. Yes you can get a lot of the best items free but the change to the amount of AD you could farm each day (dropping from unlimited if you were willing to put in the time) to 100k per day per account was like ASKING people to spend real money rather than earn currency to buy them at your own pace. Another thing was as a returning player i had a bunch of maximum rank enchantments but the system changed from 14 being max down to 5 but the trading for old 14s wasn't heres a 5 in return, instead you got these coins that enabled you to purchase level 3 regular enchants or 4s of the new enchants that had been bought out
If he had no idea what he was doing in Neverwinter I can't wait to see how alien Anarchy Online will be for him. Gosh, but that game has become an empty shell of missed opportunities and I hope somehow there's an opportunity for Rubi-Ka to be revisited in some future development.
So i think you have given a fair and honest critique of Neverwinter from a new player perspective. As a player who has been playing for almost 4 years now let me try to explain where the fun is but i will not try to down play the problems of neverwinter though i do think because of not knowing certain things you haven't has the best opportunity to really show the potential for a new player in neverwinter. Let me start by saying yes the level progression was reduced to level 20 however this was to be more in line with the DnD level cap which is generally level 20. I do agree they don't do enough to prepare a new player purely from the Leveling progression to level 20, they dont explain enough realy important mechanics and they certainly dont pin point you to how to find other players. The game is very hands off, the developers want you to discover alot of things yourself rather than directly pinpoint you to things or directly teach certain things. While this isnt necessarily helpful for many new players some people will enjoy this sense of discovery that neverwinter allows. Some things alot of new players dont relise is as follows: 1 there are reasons for players to have multiple alternative characters from, which means there is always people running through the progression zones, new players and old and you can always use the zone chat to find others in your area who may be doing the same thing as you. 2. Once you reach level 20 yes you can run through the adventires for some usefull rewards however the lastest campains are always open to everyone regardless of item level, and the latest campains will always provide stepping stone equipment and will always be the most active areas. So as a new player you want to jump straight into the latest campain regardless of your item level, regardless of how much you may struggle in the area, you want to get there as soon as possible and find others to help you get the stepping stone equipment which will always be the fastest way to get that item level up, getting the item level up opens up new areas and encourages others to play with you. 3. Most players have a power fantasy and so DPS characters are always the most abundant, because they are the most abundant the dungeon queues have long wait times, if you dont want to be waiting for the queues than what you need to do is either play Tank or Healer or go into the zone chat and look for a group rather than just waiting for random queues to pop. Only the skirmish queue doesnt have role requirements. 4. The fastest route to finding people to play with and to reach end game is to find a helpful friendly guild if you can. Yes you could spend years grinding to have everything complete and to do everything in the game but you dont have to complete everything in the game you just have to make your stats good enough to perform your role effectively, and those years of grinding arent necessarily going to find you regular groups to play with, only your own charisma and social skills can help find regular groups to enjoy the game with. While again i think your criticism of neverwinter is fair and honest i feel due to a little unintentional ignorance or lack of knowledge you haven't been able to fully experience the potential of a new player in neverwinter in 2024
The game told you several times while watching your video that alt controls the cursor.. crazy how much hours you put into games and can’t pay attention to the screen when it tells you haha.. I’m just messing, I played neverwinter and I think it took me a few minutes or so to figure it out as well. Much love dude, I enjoy your content but notice you make mistakes in games I’ve played a lot and I’m like bro, no you just do this.
As for the dungeons, you had to go to the random dungeons to join groups in less than 10 minutes and on the repetitive adventures, you had to continue and the campaigns and the other adventures are just great and not at all repetitive! too bad you stopped at a moment when you had to understand to have fun!
Played it about 8 years ago, just comparing the hub city population of players now, it looks dead to me. It used to be full of players and all dungeon lines less than a minute. So sad to hear this game is over. I really enjoyed it so much. Played rogue as a first character too 😂
I used to love this game; the leveling, questing, exploring. Since they removed the level cap of 80 my love for the game is dwindled. Having said that even though I whine about the game for some reason, something about the game keeps me coming back for more.
Hey, if anyone have question, ive been playing it for YEARS. Neverwinter a great game, both casual and hardcore grinding player can enjoy, with DOUZENS of Dungeons and Trials. Ask me whatever you want 😁👍
When you reach level 20. Is everything possible in f2p or do u have to soend money to get the best gear in the game? And how long would it take roughly to get the best gear f2p
@@Enthusiastic-GoKartyou don’t have to pay. You can pay to progress faster but you be paying to be better. You can do everything f2p but it’ll take you a little lot longer to get where u wanna be
Most people quit when they realize there is no experience bar. It’s the first real “what am I even doing here then” moment in the game. The first of many.
I played this game when it first came out. It looked good for the time, gameplay and progression was also ok. I cant remember the details and the names, but there was definitely dungeon-like group content. The best thing was player made dungeons. Such a promising concept, and there were daily quests inciting you to do them, and the popularity ranking system. That had amazing potential. Things started looking bit more grim once you get introduced to astral diamonds and all the other similar things. Again, not a disaster, but it became clear p2w was more pronounced then in other games of that era. At that time, small sub that gives you access to everything was still a norm, and this looked weird. Concerning as it was, that wasnt the reason I quit. I got really disappointed with a disaster they had with servers, the kind of I never heard of in other games. Apparently they forgot to program in absolute number when you make a currency exchange. Someone found out that if you type in a negative number when exchanging you get back both the currency you are buying and the one you are selling. Soon the word got out, thousands of people started doing it and sort of broke the game down. The devs then decided to roll back the entire game something like 3 days back, and we lost the progression. As I just hit the max level and got lucky with some rolls procs whatever, I felt so disappointed to go back a bunch of levels, it became kind of meaningless and I abandoned the game.
you`re totaly right about everything, i`m playing this game now and i`m literaly stuck, cant do nothing the only to fast progress is to buys things at auction house, i`m stuck with 40k item level and have nothing to do, no way to progress, boss and dungeons dont drop itens, its everything resourser that we cant use anytime soon
theres a decent few things where cryptic fumbled the ball over past years. they couldve kept the leveling system even if crunching down numbers there wasnt a thing wrong with it. there used to be daily dragons through older zones which they removed. they were little get togethers of a great deal of many players! older contents gear is no longer viable in many cases. elemental evil campaign gets skipped 98% of the time gringing required for the few things it gives. rewards are definitely not on par. i like helping starting players but cant reach them all. last thing cryptic SHOULD change is the amount of grinding needed for simple campaign progression. were not all equally exited to play other world job simulator. random ques, guild activities and hardcore/master content is all there is left and sadly not even all of it, only certain dungeons still get run for what they give you. plenty to explore but since rewards for older content are as u said low, not many do them or leave them for later which is sad.
This is an online game that has to be played every day, first thing when you enter the game, do AD and refine your 100k. Then focus on the campaign... And when you do the random ones you earn coins to buy the almost strongest set in the game...
I played 4k hours neverwimter and i was endgame crazy strong. Every new mod forced you to spend money to change some stuff you cant farm and it allways ended up in around 200 300 bucks. I play eso now only have 1k hours and im in a endgame raidteam. I might not have the high championpoints like they have but you still can shine. No paytowin i enjoy that way more
I also just started playing NW recently, & seems to me like you rushed through it. I dunno how you got to max in 8 hours, cause I'm only at lvl 11 after about twice that time. In my time, I joined a guild, checked out the crafting system, chose my 2nd class path (all of which the game shows you via quests) & tried out other classes up to lvl 3 to see which I'd enjoy most. The game is really streamlined to the point where you shouldn't have missed your paragon path choice at lvl 11 or the crafting & guild joining stuff unless you really just weren't paying attention to the game, which I know a lot of streamers tend to do because they are multitasking. Someone like me, who is a normal gamer who doesn't stream, & others who just want a game to play in their free time & don't have to multitask while playing probably won't have the same issues that you were having.
Biggest problem of this game is mid and true end game, to enter this u need this Item LVL, u can get this by eq ofc, some grinding and upgrading artufacts and other, but its not enough, u need, u NEED a legendary mounts and companions, mostly companions when almost every one u have gives u Item LVL, u dont have to use IT, and for me this is the biggest problem of game, cuz u can't have that without spending money, ofc u can farm diamonds or however this currency is called to buy them from other players but its takes a ton of time, like an months when u Play just on 1 or 2 characters, to get one of them, but u need hundrets , like neverending story ..
Due to the nature of the content I've been making, I will inevitably have to scrounge through some obscure titles to keep up with my release schedule. Maybe I'll find some diamonds in that rough, No promises but I'm sure I'll check it out at some point. :)
Just a pointer! I didn't see you taking advantage of the rouges core ability: Stealth. This skill once activated gives other encounters and at-wills some very powerful buffs that give the rouge that "Unique" feel. In case you wanted to continue to play this class, I recommend you really give it some play while being a sneaky. Also! The leveling system of NW is a classic system from the DND experience called "Milestone" lving. This system puts a focus less on the grind of exp, and more onto the understanding of the games mechanics and environment. Unfortunately, throughout the mods of NW the devs have taken away many zones, quests and key points of NW as a whole that gave it a story and place as a stand alone game. This means that once they removed the exp grind to get to 80( which usto be 60 when the game launched) it took away the played MMO rush as you said as we level, forcing us to look at a shell of what NW usto be I have for years been in a rough place with NW. I have just about 3800h on xbox in this game and have loved it for years. It has had many ups and downs, but always seems to suck me back in. I can tell you as someone that has taken the time to complete all endgame content from mod 9-26, the game has hours and hours of content to explore and so many lovely people to meet, but TAKE YOUR TIME! This game has a grind of its own, and often yes that will prevent you from doing content, but thats ok! If you take it at your pace, explore chartacter builds and classes, you will have a experience that is worth the wait and possibly meet people you be best friends with for life.
I’ve tried too many times. The have a couple 20’s. No clue what to do on them since I took time off. So I start new characters and in a week or so I saw one or two other people and felt zero progression. Zero. No clue what level I get to because they don’t matter. My lvl 20’s can do basically exactly what my lvl 5 can do.
I understand your stance on monetization so I think gamers have a choice.... pay for the game and a subscription or have it free to play with a cash shop. There is no lack of integrity in that business model but just the need for a company to make money to keep developing a game. I think we harshly judge cash shops and then cry when there's a sub. How exactly would you suggest a developer pay the salaries of those developing the game? or pay for the servers to run the game? or pay for the customer support to assist when there are problems?
Is it worth playing for the main story line? I played for a few hours, as far as I could tell there is little to no story/character development. Just stick to the books👍
I tried it for like 3 hours had some fun was going to keep playing until it forced me to pay a ton of money, I logged out and when I logged back in I was in a random city and super lost😂 deleted it after 5 mins of walking around
Hmm, but what do expect from a story game, if its a negative point that you change from one storyline to another storyline ? And questing is nothing negativ, in any other game that has a story, youll have to follow the quests, so its compketely normal
I used to play neverwinter back in like 2018 before level cap was made 20 and i would just like to say that every single leveling zone has been GUTTED from what it used to be and that makes me the big sad. I remember it used to take you like a few days to clear each zone, you really got connected to each story and really felt your characters story progress. I recently replayed neverwinter a few months ago and i did the entire Main Story in like 10 hours and hit max level content so fast i actually wanted to cry a little. DnD level cap is 20 because it will take you a LONG time to get there and that leads to a LOT of character development through that time spent.
You are saying everything I was going to!
I just got into this game. I hope they reverse the leveling change.
@@killjoix theyve already destroyed the game over the years, leveling wont change back nor will it fix any issues the company created themselves
Yeah, I started with my character before the level cap and played quite a while, then took a long absence leaving the main character at 40-something level and having nothing better to do, returned to the game around the COVID lockdown. I remember being quite surprised finding my character at the low 20 level, thinking they've decreased my level for some reason.
Anyway, the game used to be much more fun, there was a bigger sense of achievement and your leveling felt earned. Nowadays, I am seeking the best items to upgrade my characters (as most important stats come from the items once you hit level 20) instead of enjoying the storyline. I still look forward to exploring new areas, but it all feels rushed now.
The old leveling areas were a mess though. You would get to level 20 before you even did most of them. Now they even added a training center thing where you can learn the controls which is good because it took me like 2 months to figure it out.
14:00 this lighting effect is called "Bloom", im pretty sure it was used so much in the 2000-2010's era of video games because it was a new technological improvement in lighting engines, thus almost every game wanted to take advantage and market their game as "next-gen", kind of like how games today show off RTX graphics.
Played Neverwinter since 2017 never came across a game that intentionally tried to destroy their own product so much
Sounds like Wizards of the Coast in general.
Removing the Quest Editor was a big L. And i liked the leveling before it got streamlined more. Game made much more sense then.
It's ok they fired a thousand employees just before Christmas and now the CEO deployed her golden parachute.
I wonder if Cox in Hasbro goes human hunting on the weekends?
@@Ratty524 I used to work for one of the biggest MTG dealers in the world and still have friends there, MTG has been the same for about a decade now.
Mod 6 killed Neverwinter.
You made a point during the progression which I feel the small community always holds back from sharing. There is plenty of content to approach for a mid game player to group and grind. However, most are considered "secrets" as the experienced players would prefer to profit; rather than let the average player impede on their cash cow.
Even at 75k rating as a returning player you feel like its a secret society of information being held back; when you simply want to grind something new, and make some profit. You're pushed to believe you need 90k rating to even think about something worth doing.
Its very unfortunate and turns a lot of players away. They are given this impossible gap they are expected to close from people who haven't experienced "grinding" in years.
I haven't heard a single mention of farms for low levels in the past two months from anyone but myself since reinstalling.
No one talks about undermountain expeditions.
No one talks about dread ring enchantment runs.
Sharandar shattered diamond farms.
Masterwork recipe farming.
And I'm sure there are 100's more I've yet to discover either.
Source: 1600 hours played, and currently still - putting in more hours than I wish to admit, daily.
You see I know about sharandar, dread ring, and masterworks. However I didn't know there was money to be made in undermountain. Icewind Dale is an ok one with the corrupted overloads. They sell for about 40k ea on ps4/5. New player friendly too
14:45 you can use your cursor by hitting Alt at any time 21:21 i think if you chose random dungeon it goes by faster, it was like that few years ago when i played NW
This game used to be fun. As a D&D player I found this game when i got my ps4. It was fun to level my warlock up and there was a time when you can make different builds and be creative at it not the cookie cutter builds we got after mod 16 dropped. Before that mod it wasnt so p2w, i used to farm and exchange astral diamonslds into Zen and get my VIP every month, i really didnt need to use the Zen store other than for that. Then, after mod 16 I found myself using real money to buy things to refine enchantments and other utilities more and more to be able to be close to end game and help my guild in endgame content. I spent 4 yrs in this game, made friends that i truly miss but after all the money and time I dedicated the decided on one of the later mods to overhaul stuff, again. All the enchantment were obsolete. I put on with the previpus overhauls but this one just pissed me off bc it was like everything i did was for nothing bc the devs could just do away with all of it and we the players had no say no options....excpet leaving and thats what i did. Josh Strife Hayes has a vid on this game and its heartbreaking bc i feel that, i loved this game but the this game doesnt love its player base back. I miss it but whenever.i go back to see how its doing its like seeing an old friend degrading deeper and deeper into self-destructive tendencies and not being able to save him from its self-impossed demise.
Haven’t played for a number of years but on a whim decided to check out video’s to see what was happening to Neverwinter these days. I agree with everything you say. I used to love this game but following the massive changes made by the devs the game was completely ruined for me.
You said everything.... I stopped at mod 18 but couldn't stand my frustration so I decided to leave
I was at top 20 WL's in the game back then ....so frustrating.... specially if you log in these days
What does the VIP purchase do?
I'm so glad I stayed away
The fact they let you grind AD for zen is what eventually killed the game.
It made it so people never had to spend any money for zen so they cooked their own business model.
I've been bingeing your new player mmo videos, they're great, you're punching above your weight subscriber wise.
This
I know exactly what you mean about the lighting/bloom effect that makes everything glow, almost like a filter. Reminds me of Dragon Age: Origins but also the original Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.
GW2 has the same problem and I hate it lol.
@@setajucizbun7073If you disable post processing that helps a lot with the bloom/lightning in GW2
@@sunblade704 No, I do have it disabled. Shaders on high with no shadows is what triggers this one. It's the way everything shines all the time, like its made of plastic. But if I use lower than high shaders you lose on detail and everything looks 2D, so I just deal with it. Shadows on high also mitigate that but fps gets torn apart in zergs.
Turn it off: ESC, options, graphics.
Your vids are great! The narration is perfect for the video pace, and you're extremely thorough.
I used to play Neverwinter on my Xbox and I really miss it. I’d have to start all over though, since I was playing on the family Xbox and stupidly don’t have access to that Microsoft account anymore (long story). It really saddens me that they nuked the leveling system. I guess I won’t really miss it since I started over but I remember being very close to level 60 when I stopped playing.
The item level idea, for chars above lvl 20, is harder work than it seems. Still, it is the way it is now.
Been playing this game for a couple of years. Used to be level based but switched over to level 20 cap and item leveling. And made and quests into Campaigns. The community is very friendly and will be asked to join a guild immediately lol
I played this game when it first came out, I was SO excited for it and kept my eye on it for when it would be released. I love DnD, I grew up on the Dragonlance and Drizzt books, and I played the Neverwinter Nights game and its expansions to DEATH. I loved this game in its early years, it had so much heart, and the Foundry was AMAZING, player-made dungeons you could run, going from very simple to incredibly immersive and compelling, and even incredibly quirky and funny. I spent more time running Foundry content than the game itself, it was so fun.
Sadly, the game steadily went downhill, it became more monetized, got rid of the Foundry, and though when it first opened they were making new races that were added free for everyone, you just got to play the race months earlier if you paid, if I remember correctly. I was really disappointed at every change made that continued to chop the game up and make it worse, more predatory, etc. Changing the leveling system was the last straw for me, as I love the leveling process and watching my character go from almost a peasant to the savior of the world.
It's just... Really sad. It was such a good game, but greed killed it... They went way too hard on monetization. Most people I know are more inclined to buy from the shop if they're not being annoyed into it and having locked off content thrown in their face every five minutes.
For the mouse cursor thing, I can't remember exactly since I haven't played Neverwinter in a while, but basically every action combat game has either alt or ctrl to activate the mouse. Some games have it as a toggle, some games you have to hold it down. But yeah, it should be one of those buttons.
Left alt by default I believe
Yeah, I saw one of Waydots videos and I thought he was like a MMO veteran and played like a bunch of different types of MMOs atleast. Really caught me off guard when he got caught on gaining cursor control. When alt and or ctrl and etc. are the default cursor control button for like every MMO ive ever needed to turn on cursor control in.
I played this Beta when I was 11 or 12. Crazy to see it is still alive, I was a huge Champions Online player around that time, and the same company made this game so I was hooked on the beta. But the game completely fell off my radar with schooling and well now I'm here, reminiscing about this game 12 years later. Think im gonna have to give it a go for nostalgia.
try out some D&D online at some point, a game that I would really love to see getting a remake or a sequel of some sort that takes the unique gameplay elements the game has and streamlines it for more modern sensibilities, I think that would be amazing
Bg3 is a better solution (it is not a mmo but can coop)
@@blacksabbath2559I’m playing ddo after beating bg3 twice and I’m enjoying it. Needed some more d&d content, considering I’ve played through all three bg’s, neverwinter nights 1 and 2 also lol
I like these videos. Neat way to keep an eye on different MMO's. I was hoping for another video of SWTOR content, though. Been playing the game myself, and it's been a blast!
I played on and off since launch. Never got to max, but I did enjoy what I played. The story aspects definetly feel like a Bioware rpg.
I hate that they changed the leveling process. I tried getting into Neverwinter again after I stopped playing for a while and just hated what they did. I also felt like I just couldn't find any type of loot at the beginning except for what NPCs gave me. Stopped at Lvl4 or so because I hated it so much.
I agree with your opinion on leveling up!
Bro you are solid; you have explained the game very well, it makes a lot more sense.
I hoped on Neverwinter as soon as the pandemic began during the first lockdown in 2020 and spent 4 weeks grinding HARD. There is definitely fun to be had, but I had no luck finding any groups until about 6pm my time. I agree this game should absolutely be cross play.
Thank you for your honest opinion of this game. I will play this MMORPG, as it does offer some of the gameplay factors I look for in a game whenever I'm bored with WoW. However, I won't expect to be completely enthralled by its gameplay. I'm glad you took the time to do an in-depth evaluation. Again, thank you.
Queue time for dungeons and raids are a nightmare for a DPS role, but if you play as a Tank or a healer it's a different story. The problem is, tanking and healing needs more experience especially on epic dungeon, since mechanic matters. Maybe on normal dungeon a high gearscore dps can carry you but not on epic, tank and heal were the key, that is why they were so rare thus the queue time for a DPS role became so long.
You are joining the wrong Group Ques .. join Random Group Ques .. the Randoms have a Daily Bonus that people do. The specific private Ques are for designated groups and guilds looking to run content. Also group Heroic Encounters are spawns inside the Campaign/Adventure Zones that are meant for spontaneous ad-hoc groups to overcome, they are listed on your Map.
He waited 20 minutes in a public queue before joining the private.
I never waited more than five, also playing on pc
OMG, group-dragon hunts, when one in the team takes the fierce `modifications´ in hope of dragon gear drop rate increase!
If Secret World is still up you should check that out. It features a different type of leveling system from other MMOs I have played. Your level is based off your gear if I remember correctly.
well, the reworked version of it - secret world legends is still up on steam, though it's as dead a game as it can get and it's god awful compared to the original SW
The worldbuilding and questing/lore in that game still has not been topped by any mmo to date imo. Very sad ;l - if it had better gameplay it would have popped off.
@skylerfreeman1173 too many people couldn't handle the lack of tank/healer/DPS class builds.
My brother and I came back to the game and we have the time of our lives. No other mmorpg give us this amount of fun and we tried em all. Try it with a friend you will not regret it.
I was a long time F2P player years ago before this game even went to console. To me, it went downhill after they gutted the levels and dungeons. It became similar to WoW now where Zones aren't separated by levels anymore, if you become level 15, your mobs also became level 15, etc. That also meant low levels were now grouped up with max levels in dungeons, so that stopped being fun since you couldn't really gauge your progress against our peers anymore because you were vastly out leveled and out geared. The daily quest grind was also so crazy long, it made it insanely tedious to min-max your character's stats. If you also had Alts, yeah it's rough. Expansions made the dailies feel even more gruesome.
All that said though, man this game was so fun back then. Assassin, GWF, Control Wizard were my top three classes.
a big part of the game though is playing with other players. if you are not playing with people you know, you should really join a guild in a mmo. most of the players in neverwinter form a party and private queue into the queue. but again, as the genres name implies, its a multi player game, and if you arent playing with people you actually know, you should engage with people in the game. in my experience, joining a guild in a mmo is one of the most essential things to do.
If you want a true Dungeons & Dragons MMO experience I can recommend playing Arelith, a Neverwinter NIghts multiplayer server. It is a more sandbox experience filled with stories and players with unique stories. Maybe if you're trying to find a real D&D mmo experience that could be it.
could you please provide a link?
Or you could play an actual D&d mmo like D&D online.
I played Neverwinter for many hundreds of hours between 2014 and 2018, which is really when it was in its prime. I loved every single thing about it, it's probably the game I've loved most in my whole life. It's heartbreaking to see just how far it's fallen and how much of its quality and enjoyability it's sacrificed to squeeze every penny it can off its shrinking playerbase.
I miss Neverwinter so much
I have been playing it with a friend recently, we just reached level 13 grinding at our own pace, from what we have learned this game has mostly people who play late game, and the best way to access content is joining a Guild and getting boosted by them to get to the late game
I played with a friend new to videogames, the experience was amazing.
I was obsessed with Neverwinter Nights and its single player versions in the early 2000's. Even to go as far as getting tattoos of it while at University. BUt i just couldn't get into the MMO. I want to lose myself in the world of Forgotten Realms and the Sword Coast. But at the time it didn't scratch the itch.
Try baldurs Gate 3
@@kittywampusdrums4963 I sunk nearly 200 hours into BG3's Early access and a further 200 into its full release. I'm pretty set there.
I was hoping to find a vid that showed me if NW was worth playing in 2024. Nailed it.
I’ve been playing Neverwinter for years, and I love it. People can say what they want about it, but you can get to endgame enjoyably without having to pay anything. Using money just expedites the process and in the end doesn’t actually give you an edge over anyone. Paying money also, for me, ruins things because it’s the journey that’s enjoyable-you have to, you know, actually play the game.
What end game? Lol. I hit lvl 20 and there is nothing to do but another “quest zone exactly like the first one”
@@DionTalkFinancialFreedomYou do skirmishes until you have good enough gear to run dungeons. Meanwhile you do campaigns which have weekly limits and adventures which can be played as you please to completion. There's more than that but those are your options at this point.
I quit because of the changes every year that forced you to farm again and again making your previous progress pointless. And destroying paladin class with new dnd rules, I will never forgive.
I cannot believe you cut off the cinematic before the reveal of Strahd in Ravenloft!
It was so fun back then, levels, stack all in power, Xuna, Anything on Zen market was auctionable, but most of all the thing i miss is companion training. On a long run multiple character uff but still doable.
the problem with neverwinter is the huge grind to get good gear, it takes forever and it's a little demoralizing when you can just buy it for real money
the new neverwinter feels like hitting level cap is still early game
No, it is the awkward item level idea that sux above level 20. Press C, search for it, it is plain to see (item level 20k + for the multiplayer parts)
When you open the lock boxes you drop tamalunas, with them you go to the NPC and exchange them for compenion or mount coins, I warn you to focus on the mount coins first... Oh yes, buy them. Legendary mounts (red) bound acount for your character.. Yes, grandma will need 10 in total, so with the tamalunas you buy mount currency (you will need 200 for each mount) and upgrade 10 to the mythical thus earning 6 thousand (or 6k ) of item level...
Another solid review Waydot. Liked and subscribed.
I think Neverwinter is great for beginners with MMO RPG games, it is easy but at some point you will get tired of repeatable content. And constant change of best gear. I played 3 years in total and gave up in the end - due to huge changes in game that ruined all my 3 years progress. Now I am playing The elder scrolls online and this game is some much better, but definitely Neverwinter was fun in the past and I met lots of great people there.
Neverwinter always will be great for D&D fans.
Thanks for this. I was thinking of going back to try this. You used to have player made dungeons in the foundry if that's even there still
Great video. I definitely prefer Your honest opinions than those of players blinded by their "loved" game or sponsored streamers.
I have been playing neverwinter since 2017. For years this game gave me so much joy and fulfillment.
I recently moved from Xbox to pc. The Xbox playerbase is probably the most healthy out of all the platforms and I don’t feel like restarting on pc as I’ve grinded to true endgame, completing the most recent trial dropped.
I don’t log in now unless my friends ask me to play. I upgraded a guild all the way to max level with a very healthy amount of players, but it saddens me that there’s nothing pulling me back to the game like it used to. This was the game that got me into gaming.
It feels like there’s truly no new content being released, it’s always “here’s a new chase item that everyone will return for and then quit again until the next mod”. All the campaigns feel the same.
I don't want to echo the comments of everyone else but as a neverwinter player who has spent thousands of hours in game since BETA (OG of NW) I have to agree with all the points made. The game devs got greedy, you may not have seen the aggressive side of the games MTX or didn't outline it in the video but the game was once a gem but they nickel and dimed the player base down to the base Stockholm syndromes. Sadly I am one of those players that comes back occasionally to be enviably disappointed. The game was so good and sadly its just as you put it in this video. Yet there is still a lot of content in the game, it does get better, just maybe not in time to save new player retention.. Thanks for the video dots.
I thought I was going crazy. I hopped on after 9 years and found a completely different game then I remember.
Used to play this so much. My problem with the game was the monetization and every new dlc made all your old gear obsolete and have to basically start over with a new set just to survive a new dungeon 500 times and that was it
You weren't wrong about your daily powers. So essentially the game use to be based around 4E and daily powers for the tabletop was once per day. But using the name daily for the mmo was a bad name choice on their part. The reason for the level up per story , aligns with how people level up characters in 5e. Rather than using XP per encounter, DMs tend to level up player characters, when a certain milestone is reached :). Great video
First thing friend, there are two currencies in the game, Zen which you buy with money and Astral diamond (AD), AD you only refine 100k (100 thousand) per day... With it you use it to buy items at auction... Now the zen you put the VIP... The advantage of being a VIP is that you have many benefits, just read it in the game.
u missed out on the random queues. thats where the early game players do group content. the random skirmish, dungeon and trials. they have improved the new player experience and progression with the heros path line of quests
This game's hayday has long past. It was great years ago when there was a reason to go out and do each campaign because they were reasonable to do, but now they just keep the old ones insanely bloated so you're incentivized to pay to get max completion with zero time spent. It's quite literally hundreds of hours saved for about $40 USD for each individual campaign. Truly it's just saved though, as there's no difference in how they're handled for the most part. The level cap used to be 60, eventually bumped up to 80. It started showing cracks around the first level increase, and just has fallen flat since then.
Part of the reason for the levels feeling so weirdly compact is because this was first based on D&D 4e, which had 3 tiers fo Adventures. Fresh Adventurers, levels 1-10. Paragons, which were level 11-20. Epic Adventurers, which were 21-30. They doubled the levels to make it so you had more incremental gains, and you actually gained experience. Then with 5e, they eventually pressured Cryptic to compact it down to 20 levels. 20 levels was the standard before 4e, and is the standard they returned to with 5e. Just so many times they mishandled things, and the game's gotten worse over the years as a result. It's now a hollow shell of what it was, with only the die hard fans remaining.
The game had some potential, the developers folly was believing their fan base was dumb as a brick.
Arcade mechanics, big flashy numbers and subsequently avoided like the plague by many.
You need to do campaign to get boon points. You don't have to grind them all, there are regular events that give you 2x campaign currencies as well as "genie's gifts" which basically you can use to buy campaign currency with. There are also buyout tokens, if you plan on spending a little bit.
"spending a LITTTLE" no do complete all the campains oor even acouple costts abou 100$ and theres ALOT o campaigns
@@syrupdog145 poors lol
@@OmniDan26 if being poor means i dont wanna spend 2.1k on campaigns then yea im poor
@@syrupdog145 Good to know, consider filing for benefits from your government.
@@OmniDan26 Found the id10t 🐳....
The Copium taste good?
This must be the best console mmorpg trust me! Everything in Zen market wont give you advantage everything you can farm up and not pay too win! Game changing to better and better! Love cambat and skills
The random queues don't work for me most of the time since the changes but there are always people looking to group up in Protectors Enclave. It is funny they made changes for new people to play the game but from the reviews, new people are not liking it.
Played Neverwinter from 2013-2017... I do not recall their questing being streamlined this much. Was this something when I was playing as well? I will hop back in with an open mind and see how I like it.
Also, use ALT to get the cursor to appear. That is the best way about it.
Back in my Neverwinter days, It was extremely fun. Yeah the grind got real but as an avid Runescape player, I'm comfortable to with grinds lol. But when they streamlined it, made the 20 level cap, made it more P2W, it lost its spark. What was the point of putting a good amount of hours into the game when it only takes 5-10 hours to max depending. I went back to Dungeons&Dragons Online to get my D&D fix after I took a step back from NW(even though i still grab the free game codes haha)
and the reason the que doesn't work is because the population of players has dramatically decreased in a large percentage, so no enough class to cover roles anymore
Yeah, only Zergs rushing thru, as if high on methamphetamines. No storytelling, no adventuring, no real teamwork.
At 15:09 all you needed to do was press ALT and you could bring up your mouse
Man the moment you said "early xbox 360 lighting" i thought to myself, "fable"
Use Alt on keyboard if u Play PC u can move crosshair wherever u want
Another killer video
really best mmorpg medieval fantastique in the world ! good job ! ;)
I've never had so much fun and so much heartbreak for a single game. I have so much more hours in this game than wow and final fantasy XIV combined and the immense dread I ended up feeling with every negative change felt worse that some breakups
Yes, there was ante xp to evolve your character (before in my time it was lvl 60 then 70 and then 80 and 90) they eliminated this in the dragonbone valley campaign, and you only evolve from 1 to 20 (max) by doing quests... today what's the rule is Item Level (campaigns need to have item levels)
I played Neverwinter for about 3 and a half years up until mod 16 i think it was. The changes coming had more bad reviews but i tried it and didn't like it so quit and began playing eso. I did see a video towards the end of 2022 showing changes to the game that made me give it another try for a few months last year but in the end the game is still bad. F2P, P2W. Yes you can get a lot of the best items free but the change to the amount of AD you could farm each day (dropping from unlimited if you were willing to put in the time) to 100k per day per account was like ASKING people to spend real money rather than earn currency to buy them at your own pace. Another thing was as a returning player i had a bunch of maximum rank enchantments but the system changed from 14 being max down to 5 but the trading for old 14s wasn't heres a 5 in return, instead you got these coins that enabled you to purchase level 3 regular enchants or 4s of the new enchants that had been bought out
Please do anarchy online it has the most in-depth systems I have yet to see in anything else
If he had no idea what he was doing in Neverwinter I can't wait to see how alien Anarchy Online will be for him. Gosh, but that game has become an empty shell of missed opportunities and I hope somehow there's an opportunity for Rubi-Ka to be revisited in some future development.
So i think you have given a fair and honest critique of Neverwinter from a new player perspective.
As a player who has been playing for almost 4 years now let me try to explain where the fun is but i will not try to down play the problems of neverwinter though i do think because of not knowing certain things you haven't has the best opportunity to really show the potential for a new player in neverwinter.
Let me start by saying yes the level progression was reduced to level 20 however this was to be more in line with the DnD level cap which is generally level 20. I do agree they don't do enough to prepare a new player purely from the Leveling progression to level 20, they dont explain enough realy important mechanics and they certainly dont pin point you to how to find other players.
The game is very hands off, the developers want you to discover alot of things yourself rather than directly pinpoint you to things or directly teach certain things. While this isnt necessarily helpful for many new players some people will enjoy this sense of discovery that neverwinter allows.
Some things alot of new players dont relise is as follows:
1 there are reasons for players to have multiple alternative characters from, which means there is always people running through the progression zones, new players and old and you can always use the zone chat to find others in your area who may be doing the same thing as you.
2. Once you reach level 20 yes you can run through the adventires for some usefull rewards however the lastest campains are always open to everyone regardless of item level, and the latest campains will always provide stepping stone equipment and will always be the most active areas. So as a new player you want to jump straight into the latest campain regardless of your item level, regardless of how much you may struggle in the area, you want to get there as soon as possible and find others to help you get the stepping stone equipment which will always be the fastest way to get that item level up, getting the item level up opens up new areas and encourages others to play with you.
3. Most players have a power fantasy and so DPS characters are always the most abundant, because they are the most abundant the dungeon queues have long wait times, if you dont want to be waiting for the queues than what you need to do is either play Tank or Healer or go into the zone chat and look for a group rather than just waiting for random queues to pop. Only the skirmish queue doesnt have role requirements.
4. The fastest route to finding people to play with and to reach end game is to find a helpful friendly guild if you can.
Yes you could spend years grinding to have everything complete and to do everything in the game but you dont have to complete everything in the game you just have to make your stats good enough to perform your role effectively, and those years of grinding arent necessarily going to find you regular groups to play with, only your own charisma and social skills can help find regular groups to enjoy the game with.
While again i think your criticism of neverwinter is fair and honest i feel due to a little unintentional ignorance or lack of knowledge you haven't been able to fully experience the potential of a new player in neverwinter in 2024
I think you can hit or hold L-ALT to bring the cursor up
THANK YOU.
The game told you several times while watching your video that alt controls the cursor.. crazy how much hours you put into games and can’t pay attention to the screen when it tells you haha.. I’m just messing, I played neverwinter and I think it took me a few minutes or so to figure it out as well. Much love dude, I enjoy your content but notice you make mistakes in games I’ve played a lot and I’m like bro, no you just do this.
@@Waydots Weren't you streaming this? Can't believe chat didn't tell you.
As for the dungeons, you had to go to the random dungeons to join groups in less than 10 minutes and on the repetitive adventures, you had to continue and the campaigns and the other adventures are just great and not at all repetitive! too bad you stopped at a moment when you had to understand to have fun!
Item level and mechanics == actual leveling in this game
Played it about 8 years ago, just comparing the hub city population of players now, it looks dead to me. It used to be full of players and all dungeon lines less than a minute. So sad to hear this game is over. I really enjoyed it so much. Played rogue as a first character too 😂
The Action Bar is designed based on D&D 4th edition combat rules, and not because the game was release on both PC and console.
so any recommendations of new games kind of like this?
I used to love this game; the leveling, questing, exploring. Since they removed the level cap of 80 my love for the game is dwindled. Having said that even though I whine about the game for some reason, something about the game keeps me coming back for more.
I'm always looking for that WoW replacement. I would go back to playing that again but wouldn't want to pay a monthly subscription
Yeah I feel that. Classic WoW always scratches the itch for a little while however
Hey, if anyone have question, ive been playing it for YEARS. Neverwinter a great game, both casual and hardcore grinding player can enjoy, with DOUZENS of Dungeons and Trials. Ask me whatever you want 😁👍
When you reach level 20. Is everything possible in f2p or do u have to soend money to get the best gear in the game?
And how long would it take roughly to get the best gear f2p
@@Enthusiastic-GoKartyou don’t have to pay. You can pay to progress faster but you be paying to be better. You can do everything f2p but it’ll take you a little lot longer to get where u wanna be
@@Enthusiastic-GoKartwon’t be paying to be better *
@@israelthomas6259 Neverwinter is agressive P2W kkkkk you are a liar!
You can press alt to bring up the cursor without hitting ESC
Most people quit when they realize there is no experience bar. It’s the first real “what am I even doing here then” moment in the game. The first of many.
What drew me to this game is that I could play it so easily on my Xbox. It is an interesting game, but I find I get bored with it too quickly.
I played this game when it first came out. It looked good for the time, gameplay and progression was also ok. I cant remember the details and the names, but there was definitely dungeon-like group content. The best thing was player made dungeons. Such a promising concept, and there were daily quests inciting you to do them, and the popularity ranking system. That had amazing potential.
Things started looking bit more grim once you get introduced to astral diamonds and all the other similar things. Again, not a disaster, but it became clear p2w was more pronounced then in other games of that era. At that time, small sub that gives you access to everything was still a norm, and this looked weird.
Concerning as it was, that wasnt the reason I quit. I got really disappointed with a disaster they had with servers, the kind of I never heard of in other games. Apparently they forgot to program in absolute number when you make a currency exchange. Someone found out that if you type in a negative number when exchanging you get back both the currency you are buying and the one you are selling. Soon the word got out, thousands of people started doing it and sort of broke the game down. The devs then decided to roll back the entire game something like 3 days back, and we lost the progression.
As I just hit the max level and got lucky with some rolls procs whatever, I felt so disappointed to go back a bunch of levels, it became kind of meaningless and I abandoned the game.
you`re totaly right about everything, i`m playing this game now and i`m literaly stuck, cant do nothing the only to fast progress is to buys things at auction house, i`m stuck with 40k item level and have nothing to do, no way to progress, boss and dungeons dont drop itens, its everything resourser that we cant use anytime soon
I got to 56k item lvl in five days.
There is always a way.
You skipped the tutorial part where you are introduced to random skirmish and dungeons where the fun begins.
theres a decent few things where cryptic fumbled the ball over past years.
they couldve kept the leveling system even if crunching down numbers there wasnt a thing wrong with it. there used to be daily dragons through older zones which they removed. they were little get togethers of a great deal of many players!
older contents gear is no longer viable in many cases. elemental evil campaign gets skipped 98% of the time gringing required for the few things it gives. rewards are definitely not on par. i like helping starting players but cant reach them all.
last thing cryptic SHOULD change is the amount of grinding needed for simple campaign progression. were not all equally exited to play other world job simulator.
random ques, guild activities and hardcore/master content is all there is left and sadly not even all of it, only certain dungeons still get run for what they give you. plenty to explore but since rewards for older content are as u said low, not many do them or leave them for later which is sad.
I played this on console a couple years back I liked it... But now I'm currently playing SWTOR due to one of your previous videos... Lol
My bad 😅
Wish I could play SWTOR, unfortunately it's not ultra widescreen friendly 😕
This is an online game that has to be played every day, first thing when you enter the game, do AD and refine your 100k. Then focus on the campaign... And when you do the random ones you earn coins to buy the almost strongest set in the game...
I played 4k hours neverwimter and i was endgame crazy strong. Every new mod forced you to spend money to change some stuff you cant farm and it allways ended up in around 200 300 bucks. I play eso now only have 1k hours and im in a endgame raidteam. I might not have the high championpoints like they have but you still can shine. No paytowin i enjoy that way more
Played the beta back in the day, immediatly went back the old NWN. The game back then was more akin to sleepwalking then it was gaming.
I also just started playing NW recently, & seems to me like you rushed through it. I dunno how you got to max in 8 hours, cause I'm only at lvl 11 after about twice that time. In my time, I joined a guild, checked out the crafting system, chose my 2nd class path (all of which the game shows you via quests) & tried out other classes up to lvl 3 to see which I'd enjoy most.
The game is really streamlined to the point where you shouldn't have missed your paragon path choice at lvl 11 or the crafting & guild joining stuff unless you really just weren't paying attention to the game, which I know a lot of streamers tend to do because they are multitasking.
Someone like me, who is a normal gamer who doesn't stream, & others who just want a game to play in their free time & don't have to multitask while playing probably won't have the same issues that you were having.
Biggest problem of this game is mid and true end game, to enter this u need this Item LVL, u can get this by eq ofc, some grinding and upgrading artufacts and other, but its not enough, u need, u NEED a legendary mounts and companions, mostly companions when almost every one u have gives u Item LVL, u dont have to use IT, and for me this is the biggest problem of game, cuz u can't have that without spending money, ofc u can farm diamonds or however this currency is called to buy them from other players but its takes a ton of time, like an months when u Play just on 1 or 2 characters, to get one of them, but u need hundrets , like neverending story ..
Great video as always! I was wondering if you’d be interested in doing a video on “scions of fate” it’s a bit aged but a Goldie from my past lol
Due to the nature of the content I've been making, I will inevitably have to scrounge through some obscure titles to keep up with my release schedule.
Maybe I'll find some diamonds in that rough, No promises but I'm sure I'll check it out at some point. :)
Just a pointer! I didn't see you taking advantage of the rouges core ability: Stealth. This skill once activated gives other encounters and at-wills some very powerful buffs that give the rouge that "Unique" feel. In case you wanted to continue to play this class, I recommend you really give it some play while being a sneaky.
Also! The leveling system of NW is a classic system from the DND experience called "Milestone" lving. This system puts a focus less on the grind of exp, and more onto the understanding of the games mechanics and environment. Unfortunately, throughout the mods of NW the devs have taken away many zones, quests and key points of NW as a whole that gave it a story and place as a stand alone game. This means that once they removed the exp grind to get to 80( which usto be 60 when the game launched) it took away the played MMO rush as you said as we level, forcing us to look at a shell of what NW usto be
I have for years been in a rough place with NW. I have just about 3800h on xbox in this game and have loved it for years. It has had many ups and downs, but always seems to suck me back in. I can tell you as someone that has taken the time to complete all endgame content from mod 9-26, the game has hours and hours of content to explore and so many lovely people to meet, but TAKE YOUR TIME! This game has a grind of its own, and often yes that will prevent you from doing content, but thats ok! If you take it at your pace, explore chartacter builds and classes, you will have a experience that is worth the wait and possibly meet people you be best friends with for life.
I’ve tried too many times. The have a couple 20’s.
No clue what to do on them since I took time off.
So I start new characters and in a week or so I saw one or two other people and felt zero progression. Zero. No clue what level I get to because they don’t matter.
My lvl 20’s can do basically exactly what my lvl 5 can do.
I understand your stance on monetization so I think gamers have a choice.... pay for the game and a subscription or have it free to play with a cash shop. There is no lack of integrity in that business model but just the need for a company to make money to keep developing a game. I think we harshly judge cash shops and then cry when there's a sub. How exactly would you suggest a developer pay the salaries of those developing the game? or pay for the servers to run the game? or pay for the customer support to assist when there are problems?
If I wasn't limited with only 2 character slots and have meaningful journey pre level squish, I would play the game more lol
Is it worth playing for the main story line?
I played for a few hours, as far as I could tell there is little to no story/character development. Just stick to the books👍
I completely forgot about this game.
Will never forgot the old game, the barovia hunts was good, 😢
I tried it for like 3 hours had some fun was going to keep playing until it forced me to pay a ton of money, I logged out and when I logged back in I was in a random city and super lost😂 deleted it after 5 mins of walking around
Hmm, but what do expect from a story game, if its a negative point that you change from one storyline to another storyline ?
And questing is nothing negativ, in any other game that has a story, youll have to follow the quests, so its compketely normal
I love you waydot. These were exactly my thoughts after playing this game for 10 hours and deleted it.