I love how when you finish off Vader you throw him around the same way Vader did earlier in the game when the Emperor confronts him about his apprentice
I just realized something about Sith Lord names, they represent something bad: Darth Vader = Invader Darth Maul = Maul Darth Sidious = Insidious Darth Plagueis = Plague Darth Talon = Talon
So we can agree living out the Star Killer Power Fantasy in comparison to the fallen order whiney boy is better what surprise lol. Fallen order feels so bad for the low force pool. You cant even force joke and throw around troopers right before running out of steam
@Gacarino fallen order is a good game but the force unleashed games are the best Star Wars games ever made,starkiller is more powerful than every jedi & with combined(except with palpatine😂🤣😂)these are facts.
It's weird how in the PS3 version, Darth Vader is the toughest fight in the game hands down and the Emperor is a pushover. It's the opposite in the PS2 version.
I remember something similar in the Nintendo DS version by NSpace; Vader’s tough as balls while you cut through Sidious like butter, probably because Sidious always had those really tricky quick time events
So apparently in the novels it said that the only reason Vader lost star killer is because star killer had Force lighting, The novel even stated that Vader was taking the upper hand in terms of their light saber combat it’s just that star killer had the force lightning on his side not only that but you got remember that Vader is working with a 30 year old shoe that is outdated heavily and the only reason he chooses not to switch suits is for two reasons one being that he could die from being transferred into a suit and two the New shoot would make him as fast and even stronger than anaken but it would decrease his connection with the force
he still lost, and that means starkiller is more powerful, that’s like saying the emperor isn’t stronger than Vader, he just has force lightning, it doesn’t make sense.
@@alexanderwise219 or starkiller was going all out when Vader wasn’t, star killer had to use force lightning in tfu 2 so he could beat Vader, so starkiller isn’t more powerful than Vader, it’s just that he had his main weakness and the same goes for sidious because of sidious didn’t have force lightning then he would already be dead
@@alexanderwise219 in reality Starkiller is a broken character. Keeping him in canon was never an option, since what he showed should be enough to take the empire down or take over it. Vader is absurdly strong, but his suit nerfed him, also losing his limbs. Anakin is the highest recorded midichlorian count in history, which was twice Yoda’s, and makes him in terms of potential and connection to the force, the strongest ever. By the end of the clone wars, he was considered the most powerful Jedi.
@@Guyinthecoffeeshop you literally discarded what i said, and did you forget that vader had the help of 100+ starkiller clones in the second fight? that starkiller clone also had only been alive for like a week that defeated vader too🤣
Well, he did. Tbh, I think that he made this suit as weak as Vader’s, if not weaker. Like, come on, the guy straight up tried to kill him (Vader did not in almost two decades). Yeaaa… Starkiller really got screwed in his Life
@@imsusanov2287 except, Starkiller turning Luke happens in the continuity of Force Unleashed 1 bad ending, meaning Starkiller gets levelled by the ship and reconstructed as a cyborg. Starkiller. The reenacting of episode 6 where he kills Han and Leia happens in the continuity of Force Unleashed 2 bad ending, where Vader never died and the Starkiller we play as is the perfect evil clone of Starkiller, which can only exist if og Starkiller choose to fight the Emperor instead of finishing Vader.
@@imsusanov2287 If you're talking about the Endor DLC, that takes place after the second game's bad ending and you play as the perfect Starkiller clone, not Sith Stalker Starkiller.
The ones saying that vader is stronger than starkiller obviously don’t know that vader never took down a star destroyer with force powers & that there was a moment in that battle where vader used lighting(other geniuses in another comment section are wrong too)starkiller is so powerful that they removed him from Star Wars because nobody can defeat him(except palpatine)these are facts.
not really,darth vader hold back A LOT since starkiller is like a son,and we know that vader wouldnt kill his son(also luke full potential is stronger than him)
@the golden bruh you’re obviously wrong on everything,vader didn’t hold back,starkiller was created basically to be the most op star wars character ever made & you made me laughed my a** off since luke doesn’t even come close to starkiller’s power(I have been a fan of Luke since childhood & im not acting like a fanboy I’m being realistic)old comics stuff are irrelevant since they are no longer cannon ever since disney bought Star Wars,vader didn’t saw starkiller as a son,he saw him as a weapon(you obviously didn’t played the sequel since what vader did there is more proof of what I said)these are facts.
They made Starkiller that powerful for the effects and imagery. dont forget this game was made before people were talking about what's cannon and what's not. people accepted it as a video game and left it at that.
@xxnocturnalxx that’s not true,back when this game came out & even before fans were already questioning what was canon & what wasn’t back then & when this game came out it was accepted as canon except for the what if scenarios of the dlc,these are facts.
He was beaten because of the suit. You and many others should understand that force lightning such as his was absolutely destructive to vader if you read about it you would understand
Hasn't obi wan kenobi beaten vader twice now? Wouldn't that make obi wan severely stronger than most anyone else since he beat him as both his strongest, and then several years later with all his dark force mastery, and then basically lost on purpose to become a force ghost and both guide Luke and join his master? George himself said obi was stronger than Vader on episode 4, so I guess if vader is 80% of palpatine, then obi wan would be like 90%, and Luke I'd he wasn't retconned would be way stronger than anything in existence
anakin could have beaten obi wan if he was not on the dark side and trained more, probably for an example prime luke sky walker would easily be better then star killer ( not force wise )same thing applies to obey wan prime luke and prime anikin not in the dark side both beat obi wan probably star killer as well
Obi-Wan has an advantage against Vader because...well it's Anakin being emotional in the fight. He slips up every time. And Obi-Wan is THE master of Form 2 meaning his defense cannot be broken. He's the perfect counter to Anakin's aggressive style. This doesn't make Obi-Wan stronger or more skilled than Anakin. He is just a master at using every weakness Anakin has against him. Anyone else, he'd have trouble.
Mace Windu would probably lose to Dooku but can wreck Palps. Anakin can beat Dooku but loses to Obi Wan, Obi Wan gets throttled by Dooku but beats Anakin…the power scaling is so weird. The Obi Wan series did Vader an enormous injustice. No way Obi Wan comes out of that alive without anything but Plot Armor.
@@travisvanalst4698this right here. I dont consider anything the mouse craps out canon especially with how empty low quality it all is. It even contradicts "a presence ive not felt since" its clearly obvious vader thought obiwan dead until ep4. As for obi wan beating anakin in prime. The novelization flat out shows obiwan was BARELY holding on and the longer the duel went on the more anakin got stronger and was wearing down his defenses. Essentially anakins own arrogance is what allowed obiwan to win the mustafar duel. If anakin stayed more focused he eventually wouldave crashed through obi wan "unbreakable defence" Now Ep4 vader vs obi lets just remove the IRL limitations of the props being fragile which is why the duel was so damn stiff and just add the fan made remake duel film. Obi wan would have had no idea how to full deal with vaders style since vader used all 7 forms into his new saber form. Not only that vaders own suit also gave him extra strength which he canonically uses in his strikes to make more impact with his saber strikes and slams. Obi wan also is an old man at this point and no i dont by this disney nonsense that hes filled with massive guilt and PTSD about anakin or that he cut himself off from the force and an annoying child leia is why he reclaimed his power.
@@hinatashoyo2999 Tbh Vader IS stronger by power its just that starkiller can use lighting which Vader can't do shit about it . . . .. so it equals out
I really think that, thematically, this bad ending is the best for Starkiller. He is not like Darth Revan who was a full Dark Lord of the Sith with lots of experience in the military and politics. No, Starkiller is a living weapon trained to be a tool, just like Darth Vader is one to the Emperor. It’s fitting that Palpatine would treat him just like any of his other apprentices: an effective tool to be disposed of later.
@@galacticknight55544 That ending would have made way more sense... the Ultimate Sith Edition shows that Starkiller does obey the Emperor and hunts his enemies, but ends up turning Luke to the darkside. If Starkiller still had his same abilities after being reconstructed, I have a hard time believing he'd follow the Emperor's commands in the first place. He'd likely have just tried to kill Palps again and gone down fighting.
Vader could simply use his lightsaber to stop the bolts momentarily, as other force users have done before. So using only force lightning from the start of the fight would be wasting energy. Only someone very powerful in the use of force lightning like Sidious could beat Vader just using force lightning
@@aranha6285 If Vader in legends wasn't weak to force lightning, then why was he defeated by Starkiller in such a humiliating way? Was Vader very weak compared to Starkiller?
For those who were saying that Vader was nerfed, he wasn't. It's just that Starkiller had way more advantages over him. For any of you that don't know, when anakin lost his legs, arms, and most of his skin, his mediclorians was also lost, meaning his connection to the force was weakened exponentially. It is also important to mention that the cybernetics that Vader had were of low quality and his suit was also very heavy especially on the shoulders, that's why he is always walking and we never see him do any type of acrobatics in his lightsaber skills like how he was while being a Jedi. Also to note that his suit is vulnerable to force lightning which can affect his breathing device and his cybernetics making them malfunctional. All of these things play a huge factor when it come to Star Wars battles. The only things he had over Starkiller was experience, his lightsaber type, and his darkseid affinity.
You should read the novel, the version of TFU that was pushed as the canon version of events before Disney bought Star Wars and turned it all into Legends. The events go down in a much more realistic way and more true to the universe compared to the power fantasy game, as Starkiller only got through Vader's defence after something blew up behind him which shocked both of them, and Galen had enough time to take advantage of that small window. He also doesn't fight Palpatine, because that's fucking insane and stupid outside of a fun video game. Then, in TFU2 novel, Starkiller says Vader moves as though he can see the future, with how he's unable to get through him and Vader continuing to block each and every attack with ease, and the natural lightning storm being the only thing that won him the fight.
Dawg this isn’t anywhere close to true. Everything you wrote is complete bullshit you just made up. Vader’s force connection got weaker when he got the suit? That’s the worst take I’ve ever seen and it’s directly contradicted by almost every interaction Vader has.
@@nickmitch1734 He lost 35-40%. Anakin have 29000 and vader have 17400-18850. 18850/23000=82% or 17400/21500=81% which is proof, because it ties in with the claim that vader has 80% of Palpatine's strength
Idk why everyone gets so mad that starkiller can beat Vader and palpatine. Why do they have to be the strongest characters in the universe? Let’s not forget that the person that created the entire series helped create(although he helped very little as ye was busy) the force unleashed. Lucas films and George Lucas himself put their stamp of approval on it and funded it so you can just decide how the universe works.
Starkiller Fighting bunch of strong jedis Trains with PROXY who can change to any opponent Is constantly fighting and killing in the whole game against monster, machines, 100000 stormtrooper Is only 17 years old Takes down a fucking star destroyer from the sky And people here saying vader is stronger? Lol Vader was maybe stronger in the beginning but starkiller got better and better for ever fight! He is basically StarWars kratos And he also fights again palpetin that old saggy dude and kicked his ass Plot was the one who killed strakiller in the end
Vitiate and Nihilus draining Planets, Sidious creating planet-killing level force Storms, Luke moving black holes etc etc etc. Vader is said to have 80% of Sidious power at the end of TOTS accordjng to Lucas. This gap might habe grown but Starkiller’s raw power is nowhere near that level.
3:12 Vader was using purple lighting which is superior to Starkiller's Blue Force lighting ther are 3 types of sith lighting Blue which is the weakest Purple which is strong and Red lightning which is the strongest form of force lighting
Well, because Vader is pretty much an OP and invincible character. It’s nice to see someone like this getting beaten up sometimes. It brings the idea that after all he’s just a human (not in a bad way tho)
Btw in the novels it's stated that Galen was only matching his strength and only toying with him but in the second game Vader fights Starkiller clone he goes all out however he's defeated by Force lighting and agility so yeah, Vader is not invincible
legends Vader is so much more powerful than canon vader, but starkiller has many MANY advantages over vader. Vader trained him his whole life. Galen just knows all his tricks.
@@IdiotIsMyName did you read the vader comics which is canon he has alot of feats which includes destroying half of the population of a planet and defeating an ancient Sith lord
I like how when starkiller stabbed Vader the first time Vader was still trying to fight by pulling out his lightsaber out of his chest this has to be the most brutal battle 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Because Palpatine's clone body was very unstable despite being powerful. If Palpatine had had his original body, he would have been victorious. Besides, Rey received help from the Jedi of the past. Without that help I can tell you that I would never have been able to beat Palpatine.
At the end, note that Palpatine when he says “like Vader, you will be cast aside” he says it in Mauls voice P.S. ik they the same VA but just give it a listen 9:50
Recently played again and the first fight with Vader is relatively easy but once you try to go for him in the Dark side ending dude turns into a dark side fueled juggernaut, it took me several tries to figure him out. He's weak to force push spamming because everything else I used could not penetrate his defense.After i figured that out i dog walked him. (This was on Sith master difficulty btw)
Well technically Vader did lose alot of his potential after being burned on Mustafar. But I'll grant you Starkiller is powerful, Vader technically simply by being the chosen one is more powerful in terms of raw force abilities but there is the factor of Starkillers force lightning which Vader is almost defenseless against
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Starkiller was trained from a very young age by Vader himself. Same way Anakin was able to go toe to toe with obi wan with having the advantage for majority of it
Vader’s suit is really sensitive to Force Lightning. Since Vader had the advantage in most of the fight, starting to feel confident, he couldn’t prevent Starkiller’s lighting. That is how he lost
What I wonder most is whether Vader in this ending reached the star war dimension called Chaos, after all, it was confirmed in the legends that it exists but in different versions
I’m gonna say it, idgaf what ppl say… As a Vader fan, Starkiller Mid-High Diffs Vader… Maybe ROTJ Vader if your ratty but to be safe I feel that Redeemed Vader/FP Anakin would negate Starkiller.
I wish there was a true darkside ending to this game. This ending was more of a neutral ending than a dark side ending. You should have gotten the option for a true darkside ending by killing Kota and embracing the dark side as Palpatine's new apprentice.
Is it my idea or did Darth Sidious lock Starkiller in an armor with a respirator just like he did with Vader, or did he become a new Darth Vader? obviously after he was seriously injured by the ship that was thrown at him.
@@asherlue1436 it’s not canon that Vader died, he didn’t want to kill his apprentice. Vader COULD, I’m not saying in every scenario, but in most Vader wins
@@Bleeperblopper497 Star Killer never pulled down any star destroyer though. All he did was redirect the direction it was gonna crash but it was already falling down before he did anything to it.
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Palpatine: *...andthenyouwilldie.*
He says it so casually, like “what was the last part? Oh right, you’re gonna die”
I love how when you finish off Vader you throw him around the same way Vader did earlier in the game when the Emperor confronts him about his apprentice
Hah I never noticed that
Never even realised that lol
It’s also the same way Vader threw his father in the beginning of the game
@@harlesbarkley3440 OH MY GOD YOURE RIGHT
Poetic justice
My very first playthrough, I had no idea I could upgrade my abilities, which is likely why this was so tough.
You playing on hardcore mode
Be proud you completed it without upgrades
The autism in you must be strong. Stay strong boy.
Wait you can upgrade ???
I have to try this now
The way Palpatine says "and then you will die" is just so funny to me
😂
Palpatine chills on the throne room while the rebels stand
He probably executes people before breakfast. "Oh btw you'll die. Just saying."
7:27 I love how Vader tries to pull the saber out
Details. They matter.
idek why he wanted to stay alive lol
I've played through this fight countless times. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if its more than anyone else. Yet I have NEVER noticed that
@@LearnedTheDemihis hate
@@LearnedTheDemihe wanted to find his son bruh lol
He loves shoving broken men into mechanical suits, isn't he
Oh god
Yeah. Kind of sexist he didn't do the same to his female follows. Let end this micro aggression and get the ratio 50 50
I just realized something about Sith Lord names, they represent something bad:
Darth Vader = Invader
Darth Maul = Maul
Darth Sidious = Insidious
Darth Plagueis = Plague
Darth Talon = Talon
Darth Tyranus = Tyrannus
@@CJRGaming95 is that a word? i think its tyrand or tyranny
Tyrannus is a Greek word that translates to "Tyrant" so makes sense
Darth Vader's was completely coincidental. Lucas came up with it as a play on words but Darth ended up later on serving as the template.
@@CJRGaming95 tyrannusaurus Rex
They should bring this series back i like it more than fallen ordèr
Bruh
Fallen Order isn’t even a “series” yet, chill out
So we can agree living out the Star Killer Power Fantasy in comparison to the fallen order whiney boy is better what surprise lol.
Fallen order feels so bad for the low force pool.
You cant even force joke and throw around troopers right before running out of steam
@@Rubycon4676 'you can't even force joke'
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Sit down
@Gacarino fallen order is a good game but the force unleashed games are the best Star Wars games ever made,starkiller is more powerful than every jedi & with combined(except with palpatine😂🤣😂)these are facts.
This is the alternate ending in starwars legends.
The comic?
No don’t even call it legends. The light ending to the game used to actually be considered cannon
It's weird how in the PS3 version, Darth Vader is the toughest fight in the game hands down and the Emperor is a pushover. It's the opposite in the PS2 version.
I remember something similar in the Nintendo DS version by NSpace; Vader’s tough as balls while you cut through Sidious like butter, probably because Sidious always had those really tricky quick time events
9:58 starkillers screams here kinda scare me not gonna lie
He is being tortured
Bout time someone mentioned it
@@game_chat376 ?
@Tuffin true
@Tuffin worse than that...
I felt bad for Darth Vader, there is still good in him.
Tell that to Starkiller and how Vader brought him up, Padmé.
The Force Unleashed is so tense!!!
Starkiller deserves its own series for being the second jedi beating vader so bad.
We already have the series its the games. Don't let disney touch anymore
So apparently in the novels it said that the only reason Vader lost star killer is because star killer had Force lighting, The novel even stated that Vader was taking the upper hand in terms of their light saber combat it’s just that star killer had the force lightning on his side not only that but you got remember that Vader is working with a 30 year old shoe that is outdated heavily and the only reason he chooses not to switch suits is for two reasons one being that he could die from being transferred into a suit and two the New shoot would make him as fast and even stronger than anaken but it would decrease his connection with the force
Meant to say suit
he still lost, and that means starkiller is more powerful, that’s like saying the emperor isn’t stronger than Vader, he just has force lightning, it doesn’t make sense.
@@alexanderwise219 or starkiller was going all out when Vader wasn’t, star killer had to use force lightning in tfu 2 so he could beat Vader, so starkiller isn’t more powerful than Vader, it’s just that he had his main weakness and the same goes for sidious because of sidious didn’t have force lightning then he would already be dead
@@alexanderwise219 in reality Starkiller is a broken character. Keeping him in canon was never an option, since what he showed should be enough to take the empire down or take over it. Vader is absurdly strong, but his suit nerfed him, also losing his limbs. Anakin is the highest recorded midichlorian count in history, which was twice Yoda’s, and makes him in terms of potential and connection to the force, the strongest ever. By the end of the clone wars, he was considered the most powerful Jedi.
@@Guyinthecoffeeshop you literally discarded what i said, and did you forget that vader had the help of 100+ starkiller clones in the second fight? that starkiller clone also had only been alive for like a week that defeated vader too🤣
I think if palps really wanted to he could have killed starkiller in the good ending too.
Technically he did
Well, he did. Tbh, I think that he made this suit as weak as Vader’s, if not weaker. Like, come on, the guy straight up tried to kill him (Vader did not in almost two decades). Yeaaa… Starkiller really got screwed in his Life
@@Artur_0905 Well vader did actually tried it once , but was unable to
ngl it would have been so badass if you could fight both Vader and the emperor at the same time in the Wii since they're on the same platform
So the bad ending, deletes episode 4, 5 and 6 creating an alternate timeline in the Star Wars universe.
No, it doesnt delete them, but changes them, Starkiller turned Luke to the dark side on Hoth and killed Lea and Han in the events of 6th episode
@@imsusanov2287 Yeah i know that
That's literally the worst alternate timeline ever
@@imsusanov2287 except, Starkiller turning Luke happens in the continuity of Force Unleashed 1 bad ending, meaning Starkiller gets levelled by the ship and reconstructed as a cyborg. Starkiller. The reenacting of episode 6 where he kills Han and Leia happens in the continuity of Force Unleashed 2 bad ending, where Vader never died and the Starkiller we play as is the perfect evil clone of Starkiller, which can only exist if og Starkiller choose to fight the Emperor instead of finishing Vader.
@@imsusanov2287 If you're talking about the Endor DLC, that takes place after the second game's bad ending and you play as the perfect Starkiller clone, not Sith Stalker Starkiller.
In 9:06 the origin of Sith Lord starkiller is revealed.
This the real sith lord should be after Vader not kylo ren
@@ahmedghazal4240 Because Kylo not sith, he is a dark jedi.
Disney can never top this
The ones saying that vader is stronger than starkiller obviously don’t know that vader never took down a star destroyer with force powers & that there was a moment in that battle where vader used lighting(other geniuses in another comment section are wrong too)starkiller is so powerful that they removed him from Star Wars because nobody can defeat him(except palpatine)these are facts.
not really,darth vader hold back A LOT since starkiller is like a son,and we know that vader wouldnt kill his son(also luke full potential is stronger than him)
@the golden bruh you’re obviously wrong on everything,vader didn’t hold back,starkiller was created basically to be the most op star wars character ever made & you made me laughed my a** off since luke doesn’t even come close to starkiller’s power(I have been a fan of Luke since childhood & im not acting like a fanboy I’m being realistic)old comics stuff are irrelevant since they are no longer cannon ever since disney bought Star Wars,vader didn’t saw starkiller as a son,he saw him as a weapon(you obviously didn’t played the sequel since what vader did there is more proof of what I said)these are facts.
They made Starkiller that powerful for the effects and imagery. dont forget this game was made before people were talking about what's cannon and what's not. people accepted it as a video game and left it at that.
@xxnocturnalxx that’s not true,back when this game came out & even before fans were already questioning what was canon & what wasn’t back then & when this game came out it was accepted as canon except for the what if scenarios of the dlc,these are facts.
He was beaten because of the suit. You and many others should understand that force lightning such as his was absolutely destructive to vader if you read about it you would understand
This fight may not be lore accurate, but goddamn is it sure satisfying.
The ununleashed games are not canon 😂
@@dr.fredrickthey used to be😂
@@AntonioGonzalez-jz5dk they should be
@@AntonioGonzalez-jz5dkThe light side ending, yeah.
@@dr.fredrickThey're canon to Legends mate. That's what he meant.
Hasn't obi wan kenobi beaten vader twice now? Wouldn't that make obi wan severely stronger than most anyone else since he beat him as both his strongest, and then several years later with all his dark force mastery, and then basically lost on purpose to become a force ghost and both guide Luke and join his master? George himself said obi was stronger than Vader on episode 4, so I guess if vader is 80% of palpatine, then obi wan would be like 90%, and Luke I'd he wasn't retconned would be way stronger than anything in existence
anakin could have beaten obi wan if he was not on the dark side and trained more, probably for an example prime luke sky walker would easily be better then star killer ( not force wise )same thing applies to obey wan prime luke and prime anikin not in the dark side both beat obi wan probably star killer as well
Obi-Wan has an advantage against Vader because...well it's Anakin being emotional in the fight. He slips up every time. And Obi-Wan is THE master of Form 2 meaning his defense cannot be broken. He's the perfect counter to Anakin's aggressive style.
This doesn't make Obi-Wan stronger or more skilled than Anakin. He is just a master at using every weakness Anakin has against him. Anyone else, he'd have trouble.
Mace Windu would probably lose to Dooku but can wreck Palps. Anakin can beat Dooku but loses to Obi Wan, Obi Wan gets throttled by Dooku but beats Anakin…the power scaling is so weird. The Obi Wan series did Vader an enormous injustice. No way Obi Wan comes out of that alive without anything but Plot Armor.
@@travisvanalst4698apparently it all comes down to fighting styles
@@travisvanalst4698this right here. I dont consider anything the mouse craps out canon especially with how empty low quality it all is. It even contradicts "a presence ive not felt since" its clearly obvious vader thought obiwan dead until ep4.
As for obi wan beating anakin in prime. The novelization flat out shows obiwan was BARELY holding on and the longer the duel went on the more anakin got stronger and was wearing down his defenses. Essentially anakins own arrogance is what allowed obiwan to win the mustafar duel. If anakin stayed more focused he eventually wouldave crashed through obi wan "unbreakable defence"
Now Ep4 vader vs obi lets just remove the IRL limitations of the props being fragile which is why the duel was so damn stiff and just add the fan made remake duel film. Obi wan would have had no idea how to full deal with vaders style since vader used all 7 forms into his new saber form. Not only that vaders own suit also gave him extra strength which he canonically uses in his strikes to make more impact with his saber strikes and slams. Obi wan also is an old man at this point and no i dont by this disney nonsense that hes filled with massive guilt and PTSD about anakin or that he cut himself off from the force and an annoying child leia is why he reclaimed his power.
They nerfed Vader way to hard.
Ikr, Vader is definitely more powerful then Starkiller but tbf it is starkillers game. So they had to make him win
@@batman6840 nah lol
Starkiller is stronger
I hate how everyone is wanking vader
@@hinatashoyo2999 Tbh Vader IS stronger by power its just that starkiller can use lighting which Vader can't do shit about it . . . .. so it equals out
Also we do not know if Vader was toying with him ( like Dooku did to Anakin ) .
@@MajinMist603 In episode 3 he was not toyin with him
Love how all the Vader fanboys are crying about how starkiller kicked his ass
Fr bro 🤣
Twice too
And you're a starkiller fan 🤦🏻
@@Mando2664 Nah he was just speaking facts🤷🏾♂
bro starkiller was saved by vader so this is all bullshit
I always wanted a true bad ending not him becoming a puppet like Vader
Exactly they should've let you choose to either kill or save Rom Cucka
You mean an ending where Starkiller obeys the Emperor and kills Kota? I do wonder how that might have turned out.
I really think that, thematically, this bad ending is the best for Starkiller. He is not like Darth Revan who was a full Dark Lord of the Sith with lots of experience in the military and politics. No, Starkiller is a living weapon trained to be a tool, just like Darth Vader is one to the Emperor. It’s fitting that Palpatine would treat him just like any of his other apprentices: an effective tool to be disposed of later.
@@galacticknight55544 That ending would have made way more sense... the Ultimate Sith Edition shows that Starkiller does obey the Emperor and hunts his enemies, but ends up turning Luke to the darkside. If Starkiller still had his same abilities after being reconstructed, I have a hard time believing he'd follow the Emperor's commands in the first place. He'd likely have just tried to kill Palps again and gone down fighting.
1:05
"I have trained you well, but you still have much to learn"
Starkiller: "Oh I don't think so"
Couldn't starkiller just force lightning Vaders asthmatic ass to death lmao
Vader could simply use his lightsaber to stop the bolts momentarily, as other force users have done before. So using only force lightning from the start of the fight would be wasting energy. Only someone very powerful in the use of force lightning like Sidious could beat Vader just using force lightning
@@andresoide31621 Vader wasn’t weak to lightning in Legends
@@andresoide31621 what killed Vader in Legends was his guilt he didn’t want to live any longer
@@aranha6285 If Vader in legends wasn't weak to force lightning, then why was he defeated by Starkiller in such a humiliating way? Was Vader very weak compared to Starkiller?
@@andresoide31621 Vader and Starkiller were Equals
For those who were saying that Vader was nerfed, he wasn't. It's just that Starkiller had way more advantages over him. For any of you that don't know, when anakin lost his legs, arms, and most of his skin, his mediclorians was also lost, meaning his connection to the force was weakened exponentially.
It is also important to mention that the cybernetics that Vader had were of low quality and his suit was also very heavy especially on the shoulders, that's why he is always walking and we never see him do any type of acrobatics in his lightsaber skills like how he was while being a Jedi.
Also to note that his suit is vulnerable to force lightning which can affect his breathing device and his cybernetics making them malfunctional.
All of these things play a huge factor when it come to Star Wars battles. The only things he had over Starkiller was experience, his lightsaber type, and his darkseid affinity.
You should read the novel, the version of TFU that was pushed as the canon version of events before Disney bought Star Wars and turned it all into Legends. The events go down in a much more realistic way and more true to the universe compared to the power fantasy game, as Starkiller only got through Vader's defence after something blew up behind him which shocked both of them, and Galen had enough time to take advantage of that small window. He also doesn't fight Palpatine, because that's fucking insane and stupid outside of a fun video game.
Then, in TFU2 novel, Starkiller says Vader moves as though he can see the future, with how he's unable to get through him and Vader continuing to block each and every attack with ease, and the natural lightning storm being the only thing that won him the fight.
Dawg this isn’t anywhere close to true. Everything you wrote is complete bullshit you just made up. Vader’s force connection got weaker when he got the suit? That’s the worst take I’ve ever seen and it’s directly contradicted by almost every interaction Vader has.
@@nickmitch1734but he actually lost many midichlorians
Your 1000 percent wrong my female dog@@nickmitch1734
@@nickmitch1734 He lost 35-40%. Anakin have 29000 and vader have 17400-18850. 18850/23000=82% or 17400/21500=81% which is proof, because it ties in with the claim that vader has 80% of Palpatine's strength
Idk why everyone gets so mad that starkiller can beat Vader and palpatine. Why do they have to be the strongest characters in the universe? Let’s not forget that the person that created the entire series helped create(although he helped very little as ye was busy) the force unleashed. Lucas films and George Lucas himself put their stamp of approval on it and funded it so you can just decide how the universe works.
The novels explained it well especially the fight galem took the upper hand by using his newfound calm as a jedi and emotional damage
@@VergilDarkslayerhe just wasn’t motivated
@@Hoodini2253 He needed more power he didnt cut luke hand by that time
@@VergilDarkslayer there’s a trend with fathers taking their sons hands apparently
Please windu, obi wan, yoda and every other jedi council master can take on darth vader easily
7:07 Vader hitting the Kapernic before it was cool.
Thank you so much CJEJ!! Palpatine can't look any sexier
Starkiller
Fighting bunch of strong jedis
Trains with PROXY who can change to any opponent
Is constantly fighting and killing in the whole game against monster, machines, 100000 stormtrooper
Is only 17 years old
Takes down a fucking star destroyer from the sky
And people here saying vader is stronger? Lol
Vader was maybe stronger in the beginning but starkiller got better and better for ever fight! He is basically StarWars kratos
And he also fights again palpetin that old saggy dude and kicked his ass
Plot was the one who killed strakiller in the end
Vitiate and Nihilus draining Planets, Sidious creating planet-killing level force Storms, Luke moving black holes etc etc etc. Vader is said to have 80% of Sidious power at the end of TOTS accordjng to Lucas. This gap might habe grown but Starkiller’s raw power is nowhere near that level.
0:22 “andthenuwilldie”
Palpatine and his angsty teenage apprentices. Apparently Siths are just overgrown angry teen school shooters
Excellent video
Thank you 🙏👊👍
It’s bs that he just gets hit by a ship!
That screech at the end there would probably give me nightmares. It's like you could feel every needle that made him scream like that.
The sound effects of the lightsabers clashing the first time you beat darth vader are so sexy
3:12 Vader was using purple lighting which is superior to Starkiller's Blue Force lighting ther are 3 types of sith lighting Blue which is the weakest Purple which is strong and Red lightning which is the strongest form of force lighting
This isn't a thing, no.
@@papapalps2415 makes no sense I wonder why would the game developers let Vadwr use lightning if the suit restricts it
why does it feel so good to see vader getting rekt? ❤
Well, because Vader is pretty much an OP and invincible character. It’s nice to see someone like this getting beaten up sometimes. It brings the idea that after all he’s just a human (not in a bad way tho)
Because starkiller is op and better
@@hinatashoyo2999 Lmao, no. Because Vader was nerfed in this and this is not even canon.
Because it’s satisfactory payback for all the things that Vader has done.
Because vader is a child killer
Love the fanboys complaining about Vader being bested. Newsflash, he is not invincible.
Btw in the novels it's stated that Galen was only matching his strength and only toying with him but in the second game Vader fights Starkiller clone he goes all out however he's defeated by Force lighting and agility so yeah, Vader is not invincible
So satisfying to see vader getting his ass kicked
Luke sky walker vs anakin skywalker
Starkiller is lucky that its not Canon Vader
legends Vader is so much more powerful than canon vader, but starkiller has many MANY advantages over vader. Vader trained him his whole life. Galen just knows all his tricks.
@@IdiotIsMyName did you read the vader comics which is canon he has alot of feats which includes destroying half of the population of a planet and defeating an ancient Sith lord
@@IdiotIsMyName in Canon Vader is stated to not lose potential but in Legends Vader is stated to lose potential
@@acegabrielcruz3687 Starkiller solos.
Period.
I like how when starkiller stabbed Vader the first time Vader was still trying to fight by pulling out his lightsaber out of his chest this has to be the most brutal battle 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Nobody can beat me. Starkiller is a poor apprentice. He will never destroys me. Im the chosen one
This did not do Vader justice
IF PALPATINE IS THAT STRONG WHY TF DID HE LOSE TO A GIRL? THIS SUM BS MANZ LITERALLY WON SO EASILY 💀
The sequels don't exist there joke a shit to the face
So True lol
Because Disney and sjw
@@joshualighttime604 true
Because Palpatine's clone body was very unstable despite being powerful. If Palpatine had had his original body, he would have been victorious. Besides, Rey received help from the Jedi of the past. Without that help I can tell you that I would never have been able to beat Palpatine.
At the end, note that Palpatine when he says “like Vader, you will be cast aside” he says it in Mauls voice
P.S. ik they the same VA but just give it a listen 9:50
That's funny because i think Starkiller's VA voiced Maul in the
Clone Wars.
@@MinktheStorykeeper he did
Sam Witwers most gentle voice bahahah
Show this to a vader stan and see what they have to say
Vader was holding back:
ua-cam.com/video/gDaM4qd9XW0/v-deo.html
Dude the Vader stans are EVERYWHERE in this comment section. They will come up with every excuse in the book.
And tbh I didn’t know there were two endings until I decided to go over to vader
Same
Imagine that you send your apprentice to fight a Jedi and you see him get launched through a window and crash into a statue.
4:44
Vader's face as he's being pressed into the forcefield like "I'm sick of this shit"
Nah fuck vader this man betrayed him like 4 times he deserved it
Wasn’t the light ending to the game actually considered cannon until Disney purchased Star Wars?
Only the novel was
we need more games like this today
It's not cannon, but we have to admit, Starkiller could face 2 of the most powerful Sith Lords from all Star Wars Universe, and "beat" them.
4:49 The reaction the the prisoners was probably like HELL YEA
Recently played again and the first fight with Vader is relatively easy but once you try to go for him in the Dark side ending dude turns into a dark side fueled juggernaut, it took me several tries to figure him out. He's weak to force push spamming because everything else I used could not penetrate his defense.After i figured that out i dog walked him. (This was on Sith master difficulty btw)
I think it’s cool how Starkiller started off as a Sith then became Jedi and that he has good blue force lightning powers like Darth Sideous,
God some Star Wars fans will do anything to cope with the fact Starkiller is powerful.
Overpowered thus unfun*
@@milton2137 speak for yourself, this is fun as hell
@@MrThecrazyzombie speak for yourself
Well technically Vader did lose alot of his potential after being burned on Mustafar. But I'll grant you Starkiller is powerful, Vader technically simply by being the chosen one is more powerful in terms of raw force abilities but there is the factor of Starkillers force lightning which Vader is almost defenseless against
No way he would have ever killed Vader. This ending was horrendous compared to the good ending.
yeah that’s kinda what I thought. apparently it’s only because starkiller had force lightning, but still
@@sub-zero5433 no starkiller was just broken
@@sub-zero5433 but this is legend Vader not canon but canon Vader is just a more buffed Vader
@@creammightytier9100 yeah this game kinda sucked story-wise
Vader was holding back:
ua-cam.com/video/gDaM4qd9XW0/v-deo.html
Andthenyouwilldie
Force sharigan princess vs force chakra master epic boss battle unlocked storyline, to unlock the storyline I did a no hit lots of time to react by first checkpoint in chapter 1!
full potential anakin would’ve won what is that. I played this game and thought how did Vader loose
Starkiller is so powerful that not even Vader's plot armor could protect him lmao
In the novels(or books) it was stated he won because of all the knowledge he had on how vader fought
Starkiller was trained from a very young age by Vader himself. Same way Anakin was able to go toe to toe with obi wan with having the advantage for majority of it
Vader’s suit is really sensitive to Force Lightning. Since Vader had the advantage in most of the fight, starting to feel confident, he couldn’t prevent Starkiller’s lighting. That is how he lost
@@VisionsOfSpy I didn't realize there was a novel. What is the novel called?
What I wonder most is whether Vader in this ending reached the star war dimension called Chaos, after all, it was confirmed in the legends that it exists but in different versions
0:22 "Andthenyouwilldie" lmao
star killer kinda looks like an assassin in ac creed ngl
need more maskless vader fight
I didn't even know this was an option!!
I’m gonna say it, idgaf what ppl say…
As a Vader fan, Starkiller Mid-High Diffs Vader… Maybe ROTJ Vader if your ratty but to be safe I feel that Redeemed Vader/FP Anakin would negate Starkiller.
7:25 That's for the younglings you monster!
I don’t understand why star killer joined palpatine
It's a non-canonical ending
@@yrooxrksvi7142 this whole thing isn’t canon. But why would he do that after what just happened
@@l750z_6 No, this is canon. Not to Disney, and that's great news.
He kinda didn't have a choice
@@minakothememequeen1281 of course he did
I though the only choice was after the palatine fight. No idea you could jump down and fight vader
Strarkiller looks like he was ripped out of assassins creed
I wish there was a true darkside ending to this game. This ending was more of a neutral ending than a dark side ending. You should have gotten the option for a true darkside ending by killing Kota and embracing the dark side as Palpatine's new apprentice.
8:46 *"WOOOOOAAAAAH!"* 😂
Shouldn’t have gotten Greedy and not tried to kill the emperor
Good Ending Episode 4 and 5 And 6 STAR WARS
Yes
Let’s be honest dark Vader would clap palatine and starkiller if they both worked together
Is it my idea or did Darth Sidious lock Starkiller in an armor with a respirator just like he did with Vader, or did he become a new Darth Vader? obviously after he was seriously injured by the ship that was thrown at him.
Even in the dark ending, Starkiller was no match for the omnipotent power that the Emperor had.
The final fight with destroyed Vader is insane, too difficult
Your just bad
This match is even and realistic
No it’s not, Vader was holding back in all of the fights against star killer, he is not strong enough to kill full power vader
@@idk_letha1 so he died for fun?
@@asherlue1436 it’s not canon that Vader died, he didn’t want to kill his apprentice.
Vader COULD, I’m not saying in every scenario, but in most Vader wins
Well, in a certain way. Although I think it’d be more balanced if it was Lord Starkiller vs. Darth Vader
@@asherlue1436 yes he died for fun.
andthenyouwilldie
full potential anakin for a easy w
Anakin never pulled down anything like a Star Destroyer before nor defeated Master Shaak Ti in a fight, just took her by surprise
Doesn’t exist
@@Bleeperblopper497 Star Killer never pulled down any star destroyer though. All he did was redirect the direction it was gonna crash but it was already falling down before he did anything to it.
They didnt nerfed vader starkiller was just stronger than him he was trained by vader he has lots of potential he can use force lightning...
Sidious is sidious, fkin most op sith lord of all time. Only Yoda can match him & Mace can counter him
Always on my first play through I go dark side
There needed 3 endings one where you become the sith lord also palpatine got his lightsaber out quick
Epic!
Hello, I'm new to this but very interested in learning. What specifically is Canon? Is Canon the better version to follow? What is considered canon?
Canon is the real story. For ex. The movies are canon because they are the real endings.
Force chakra master storyline!
Starkiller breathing ☠️💀🔥
Vader>>>>starkiller.
How cool would it be if Starkiller was Kylo Ren’s master instead of Snoke in the sequel trilogy?
....... or a son. That could be cool.
This should've been a vision.
He's the chosen One... Don't defeated him!