Agreed! They simply work so0oo damn go0d! And are as bullet proof as FPV products have ever been. knock on wood - I've never had a single issue with any of my something like 7 Vistas!
@@KOrnhOliO1 Yeah, I think I have 5 vista units. The only problem I've ever had was a broken mipi cable from a crash on the 1st build using the DJI system, but the cable was stretched pretty tight and the build was not very solid. Replaced it with a longer cable and I've never had a problem with any of the DJI products. I think I'd rather have 120fps 720p over 100fps 1080p too.
Hi Steele, Goggles 2 feel like 24 fps/low quality on low power mode and the bitrate you noticed is not liying 🙂 No need to fly, I did the same test on the bench with no props. Difference between low and full power mode is night and day in the Goggles (you can also disable Low power mode in the menu if you prefer). It can be seen in the DVR too. I'll post a DVR sample just under this comment, hoping UA-cam will let it be 😅
Here is the DVR showing the difference between Low and Full Power : ua-cam.com/video/PuGnnXil42o/v-deo.html (I can confirm my eyes see the same thing in the Goggles, even better actually, YT being limited at 50-60 fps)
7:52 - do not test this stuff in low power mode, Air Units will limit them selfs when not armed. Also, to get fastest performance on the O3s with the goggles 2 you will need to set the videomode to 100FPS on the O3. O3 and G2 Combo will work best then you set the video mode to 4:3 2,7k 100fps. It has also the best FOV.
10:20 How is it possible to connect the V2's to the fly app? Tried everything possible. You can only connect the goggle in FPV mode with a DJI drone. Can't figure it out with a normal drone
After 7 years, I finally went from analog to digital; I got the goggles 2 - never tried the v2 - didn’t believe it was worth it, and the v1/v2 was so bulky like most dji. I can’t afford both...and I still wish the Goggles 2 could be as small as the fatsharks, but at least its much closer to that size than the v2. Regardless, digital is awesome! Happy to experience the change. I had no issue with the update.
Since when does the DJI Fly app support the Goggles V2 when using DIY drones? Can somebody confirm this, I haven´t found anything online. I just gave it a try with the genuine Iphone USB-C to lightning cable and it didn´t work.
Nothing to do with X Files dude, you just did the test on low power mode, that's ridiculous... Could you at least update the title and description of the video 🤷
you have to turn off the low power mode in the comparison, the googles 2 shows the air unit is in low power mode in this mode you only get 30fps or something 😅
There’s a difference. It’s very noticeable. I have no reason to tell you these things other than it’s what I’ve found.. the $2.00 I’ll make from this video is for sure paying my mortgage
There is nothing to explain, i know the new googles 2 has a little bit more latency, dji himself says you get a lower latency on the v2 googles, 😅 but in the comparison is one unit in low power mode, but the other one isnt its maybe not quite the right way to show the difference 😅
Hi, at 9:29 you say the old goggles are cheaper, but in the beginning of the video your chart shows them as being $200 more expensive than the new goggles. Which one is correct?
Oh dear.. with goggles 2 you need to arm the o3 quad first to exit the low mode and the frame rate will set to 50mbps or 25mbps instead of 7mbps before you arm the quad.. I noticed this when i got my goggles2 with o3. Cheers
A steel to be clear, the LCD screens have 144 Hertz refresh rate, but you're only getting 120 FPS from the video transmitter. Other than that hundred percent agree. Also I have a very similar shaped face to you and I don't even think I want to take the chance on trying to put goggles2 in the running.
I was beginning to think I was the only one that hated the new goggles! For me, the biggest gripe, well, the two biggest grapes were the touchpad! It was a total pain in the ass and I was always accidentally touching it and changing something when I didn’t mean to. and the big one was field of view. There was too much that I couldn’t see, battery, read, outs, and things like that. Whereas with the older goggles, I can’t even remember the different names because they’re so similar, I can see much more of the information on the screen, and as you mentioned, I can wear my glasses.
I'm trying to get the goggles v2 working on an iPhone via the DJI fly app but when I plug it in I still get the "connection guide" button instead of the "Go Fly" button. I have the most up to date app. I have an apple cable that goes direct from USB C to lightening. Is there a specific firmware I need on the goggles to be able to do this or a setting on the goggles maybe?
My goggles 2 actually broke after not much use, and I was super careful with them. In contrast Ive been throwing my v1's and v2's into my bag with the rest of my stuff for years without issue. Got my goggles 2 back from repair yesterday and thought about selling them, but decided to keep them because I have a set of v2's already and I enjoy the weight/size difference on my face. That said, I have been weighing all of the same plusses and minuses, aside from the frame rate issue you are pointing out. As others have said, I think your test my not be valid in that case because of low power mode. I've noticed no latency/frame rate difference personally.
Did you say the V2s can work with the older vistas? Because after my V2s update to the 03 air unit, I can't use it with my caddx vista now. If so, HOW? thanks
The hertz difference in your test is so evident because googles 2 and the unit are in low power mode. O3 unit goes to full power mode only when it gets arm signal from fc.
Both were in low power mode though. The O3 air unit connects in low power mode to the V2s until you arm as well. All things being equal, what other simple explanation is there that the video from the v2s is smoother with steele flying both quads. Yes, I understand confirmation bias but I think any reasonable person would come to the same conclusion whether they flew fpv or even if they didn’t. Honestly I haven’t seen one test out there showing that the g2s perform better re: latency or frame rate.
@@SkeezyFPVI agree that experience is the most important thing we have here to make our conclusion. But I want to point out, that the difference in real flight will be much smaller than shown in the experiment. Also, we can see 50 mbps bandwidth in v2 googles here against 7 mbps in g2. The conditions are not equal.
I do really have problems with Goggles 2 to get the whole image sharp and in focus. I have ordered RHO lenses because they where a breeze on V1 goggles. For Goggles 2 they do not make any difference. I am also thinking about switching back to V2 goggles ...
Good decision dude, love my v2s & 03 unit all I run in my quads. Googles2 not only uncomfortable but they get hot & fog up on hot days my v2s never have.
And literally, from a flying perspective, it doesn’t react the same way when it’s flying, I flew both the avata and the o3 air unit. No “ghosting” as soon as you arm. In low power mode it’s less FPS.
And they record audio. Why does everyone forget that? It’s probably my biggest pet peeve with the entire O3 system. So if you want audio on your dvr then you absolutely need the ability to use a non-O3 updated vista or air unit and v2 goggles. From a compatibility perspective, the v2s check ALL of the boxes for me. The ‘tiny goggle’ issue is moot to me if I’m remaining stationary. It’s not like night vision goggles where I might be moving 5km with lots of lateral and horizontal head and neck movements. I love my big old Cadillac feeling comfy ass v2 googles. I like the 03 air unit too. But it has no audio damn it!!!
@@SkeezyFPV Well said! Yes, analog is very good on the V2 goggles and why I don't want the goggles 2. Plus, I got prescription lenses for my V2 goggles and they are absolutely crystal clear perfect image quality! :) Fit great too with the 2nd gen foam....comfy!
Thank god.. Someone who actually shows technical differences instead of complaining about how their glasses fit or how heavy the old ones are. You made my choice very obvious.
I've yet to fly digital but I did buy a new set of V2's a back in the fall. I haven't even opened the box yet. Glad to see some positive things still going for it and I can't wait to try them. Thanks!
Make sure to do the wtfos butter hack on your V2s. The set I got last September were on the firmware that couldn’t be rolled back with Margerine. 3.00.16 or whatever but Butter fixes all that.
Just a note. I don't argue with your feeling about the delay and image colors, but your test isn't scientific. It stuttered because you didn't arm... and it is in low power mode. It doesn't really matter which equipment you use. Use what ever keeps you flying and enjoyning the hobby.
I purchased my V2 Googles back in November 2021, pushed the needed software with Windows 7, along with the 1200mw hack. Googles worked perfect for 2 months, then the image would freeze up during mid flight, causing me to use GPS rescue on my long range quads that I built. I sent my V2 Googles to DJI repair center and they ended up replacing the Core Board Module for free since this was a known issue for some Googles. If they would have not honored any warranty, the Core Board Module would cost $160 and repair service fee $65. They did remove my skin decal sticker and I had to update the software and 1200mw hack again, V2 Googles have worked great since then.
Just to rectify.. When armed it stops being laggy! The 2 goggles have 2 completely different behaviour.The new goggles goes in low power mode if disarmed.
Appreciate your stuff but you showed the Goggles in low power mode before flight which is not remotely comparable to the framerate in-flight. I know you mentioned it but it's super far from reality as a way to represent how it appears.
No you aren't the only one in the world! Very noticeable difference. I can also confirm the very comfortable fit of the old Goggles. Very helpful review!
Easy solution for mac users: Bootcamp windows partition. I updated my v2 goggles on my mac, using bootcamp running Windows 10, and it updated just fine.
I don't have any of your issues. Currently there is a FW issue with the Goggles2. Set your transmission to manual channel selection and make sure you have the Ham hack, this fixed all my issues.
7:35 big mistake here in the goggles 2 you can see a warning that your air unit in low power mode, this majorly decreases frame rate. Does not react the same when at full power. Don't know why the v2 was higher fps Im not happy with goggles 2 though, the optics and fit suck. Id recommended get a used v2 on ebay and get new foam for it.
Don't lie please... G2 are 7mbps in low power mode, V2 are 50mbps with low power mode disabled. If you did this test connected to the same O3 you wouldn't notice any difference.
I had V1s and wanted to run the 03, so i bought the Goggles 2. After 7 days i returned them and purchased the V2s. Maybe it was just me, but i found the optics to be hideous. Just couldn't deal with not seeing a fully unblurred image.
Hey bre, wangley day, fingely dingely fangely way, zappidy happidy nappidy flay. Also, I abso luv your face. It is cool and very funny at the same time, although mostly funny. I could stare at it all day and stay laughing. Thanks for having such a funny face bre, it's super, and funny. I'm so glad it won't fit, otherwise it wouldn't be as steely.
i had no idea you could plug the V2 goggles to an iPad. I just got a new ipad after about 10 years since mine died. I can use the USBC cable that came with the iPad...lol Did you do the WTF hack on the goggles for the OSD stuff? I haven't touched my stuff in 6 months since life got in the way.
Are you planning on selling that little 03 camera mount for your apex? Or selling the files? Really looking for a good solution for my 03 camera and that one looks great
It would be cool to see goggle companies do what the new Beyond VR headset is doing which is custom fitting the faceplate to your face. When you order the headset, you take a lidar scan of your face with an iPhone and send them the 3d scan. They use that to make a perfect fitting foam cushion for your headset.
That might be possible by 3d-printing a foam insert that is custom. There is soft flamelike material. Check out colorfab if curious of filament properties. Filament called varioshore.
! That was the case on V1 and V2 as well, drastically modified aftermarket foam to fit the previous goggles comfortably.. It is same with the new ones, with added point in nose blocking for some faces. But first modified foam already made it clear in 4:3 elements for me. Waiting for even better one from Ali - haters gonna hate but the screen difference is so good.
@@sos1723 lol I’ve definitely never been told I have a flat face or small nose. The stock face plate doesn’t work for me. Maybe having some cheek bones helps so the nose doesn’t have to bear all the weight…I added a small piece of foam just under the bottom of the faceplate that rests on my cheek bones. That fixed the nose issue for me.
@@sos1723 yes i do not have nose, yet able to fly and fit the goggles myself with edits, same as previous and ALL other goggles I tried. None is perfect without edits. Dunno why ppl are mad :D fpv is expensive, goodbye to firmware development on v1 v2 ;)
I got rid of mine too. I will see what O4 brings in Q4 2024. Hint DJI they they need to fit my face without causing excruciating pain to the bridge of my nose and have wide optics like the v1/2 so my eyelashes don't have to touch to see properly.
Remove all foam on the v2 and just add some foam on the lower lip under eye segment. Your nose looks like mine. Should fit you too like that. The screen on the V2 is far superior and DJI will likely cut comparability at some point for the old goggle
One thing: goggles 2 records osd on dvr and phone video out, so you can rewatch all stuffs, include long-lat gps (if needed), but goggles v2 doesnt, when the O3 air unit turn off, video transmitter off and all OSD will go.
The foam fitting I completely agree with. The old ones fit a lot better. However, I would argue 1080p vs 810p is a massive difference. I ended up doing the opposite and selling the V2's because the new goggles were a night and day difference in visual quality. I'm not sure if the hand waving test was very accurate since the O3's low power mode using the new goggles drops the refresh to 60hz (maybe even 30hz actually) and 7mbit regardless of your video mode. When connected to the V2 goggles, I don't think low power mode works the same way since its still running at 50mbit. Your obviously a much better flyer than I am, but I couldn't tell a difference in flying between the two goggles. I can tell you the mistake I see most people make on the '2' goggles is running at 60fps modes and not one of the 100fps modes. Running in any of the 60fps OR 120fps modes, drops the transmit rate to 60fps. You have to run at one of the 100fps modes to get the low latency 100fps transmit speeds.
i agree, there is no way you can see the difference (100hz vs 144hz) when the o3 has a maximum 120fps with the v2 goggles, it's not 144fps so it can justify the "144hz". So the 20fps difference on such as high refresh rate is not even possible to see the difference. Maybe, only if you play cs go. The v2 goggles on the video is clearly not even 60fps!
I don't think he has seen the Chris Rosser video's about the latency in the different fps modes on the goggle 2's, I'm curious as well to see if he is in 120fps mode or in 100fps on the goggles 2. 120fps sucks indeed, terrible latency and it's actually 60fps reprojected..
I found a decent solution to the goggles 2 foam fitment that gave me a zero light leak fit, and doesn't play tummysticks with the bridge of my nose. It did involve cutting the stock foam away from the face plate for about 2" outside and under each eye, then slipping some thin foam in and gluing it in. But it came out pretty clean. I understand your reasons. The form factor was the #1 jumping off point for me. I am really hoping they do ok without a fan when summer comes. Not putting a fan in was kind of a numb nuts move imo.
8:40 I guess it looks "stuttery" only because OLED have instantaneous pixel reaction time. In Googles v2 you have blurring effect as LCD pixels are not that fast in chaining their colors.
About time ⏲️ honest and reliable facts about those two. Never had the goggles 2 and I don't think 🤔 after seeing this I'm. There is a reason why the goggles v2 r sold out. Thank u.
Sold mine too and went back to the old one. DJI kind of just sells immature crap anymore. Whether it's goggles that you have to cut because they don't fit, or an avata that just keeps falling out of the sky. Overpriced, immature shit that you can get angry around with.
I don't think the stuttering is anything to do with framerate, I think it's because the shutter speed is too fast. The same effect can be generated by using 'Sport" mode on a video camera. It's why they shoot movies at 24 FPS because the eye/brain sees one motion-blurred frame to the next as a smooth transition, whereas it has problems resolving consecutive razor-sharp images as a smooth transition. It's also why camera drones use neutral density filters so the shutter stays open longer to induce motion blur.
I don’t understand why you would test the refresh rate with the drones unarmed, low power mode is a lot harsher on O3 than it is on o2.5(vistas and such)
@@MrSteeleFPV you mean having both armed at full power? I’ll have to check it out I guess, am still keeping my v2’s either way because I fly analong with them lol
Hertz refresh rate absolutely makes a difference. I miss my plasma television when gaming. These new OLEDs and the regular LEDs all suck. Give me my plasma at 600 Hz, 120 Hz ain’t it.
Is nobody watching until the very end? How is this NOT breaking every fpv forum/fb group?! At 10:17, Mr. S talks about video OUT from Goggles V2 - "just plug it in via the usb-c dongle, and then to your iphone or ipad, hit 'go fly'.." What needs to be done to make this happen? We should alllll be able to replicate the same thing... I have the dongle, have a lightning cable, iPhone, iPad, DJI O3 unit on a quad - follow suit with the description in the video, yet no output from V2.... what's up?!
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I'm still quite happy with vistas and the v2 goggles. This hobby is expensive enough as it is.
i say get as much life out of your stuff as you can
Agreed! They simply work so0oo damn go0d! And are as bullet proof as FPV products have ever been. knock on wood - I've never had a single issue with any of my something like 7 Vistas!
@@mdk42o74 It works soooo good and no one ever said we had to have the latest gear to still enjoy the hell out of FPV!
@@KOrnhOliO1 Yeah, I think I have 5 vista units. The only problem I've ever had was a broken mipi cable from a crash on the 1st build using the DJI system, but the cable was stretched pretty tight and the build was not very solid. Replaced it with a longer cable and I've never had a problem with any of the DJI products. I think I'd rather have 120fps 720p over 100fps 1080p too.
Tell me about it. try doing it from nigeria like me where the currency value is shit to a dollar lol
So glad that I kept my V2's. They may be more of a "Face Box" but they're way more compatible and adaptable to multiple applications
Fake, study
Hi Steele, Goggles 2 feel like 24 fps/low quality on low power mode and the bitrate you noticed is not liying 🙂 No need to fly, I did the same test on the bench with no props. Difference between low and full power mode is night and day in the Goggles (you can also disable Low power mode in the menu if you prefer). It can be seen in the DVR too. I'll post a DVR sample just under this comment, hoping UA-cam will let it be 😅
Here is the DVR showing the difference between Low and Full Power : ua-cam.com/video/PuGnnXil42o/v-deo.html (I can confirm my eyes see the same thing in the Goggles, even better actually, YT being limited at 50-60 fps)
I hope many ppl watch your vid and will understand. Thanks for sharing
@@TERBANGFPV You're welcome 👍
Je me suis presque demandé si il nous faisait un prank 😂
@@asvision83 J'avoue 😅
The prices are backwards on the comparison lol 😂. Sorry guys
7:52 - do not test this stuff in low power mode, Air Units will limit them selfs when not armed. Also, to get fastest performance on the O3s with the goggles 2 you will need to set the videomode to 100FPS on the O3. O3 and G2 Combo will work best then you set the video mode to 4:3 2,7k 100fps. It has also the best FOV.
but 4:3 DJI should have used 4:3 screens in the goggles 2
indeed 4/3 2.7k 100fps and not in low power mode ...
at least someone got them for the discounted $$ ;)
Also set shutter as high as possible
Interesting. I'm going to guess 16:9 works the same minus the fov part?
I'm missing your "The three musketeer" type mustache... 🤣
10:20 How is it possible to connect the V2's to the fly app? Tried everything possible. You can only connect the goggle in FPV mode with a DJI drone. Can't figure it out with a normal drone
Only with o3
"they're dumb, I don't like smart batteries that much" lmao
After 7 years, I finally went from analog to digital; I got the goggles 2 - never tried the v2 - didn’t believe it was worth it, and the v1/v2 was so bulky like most dji. I can’t afford both...and I still wish the Goggles 2 could be as small as the fatsharks, but at least its much closer to that size than the v2. Regardless, digital is awesome! Happy to experience the change. I had no issue with the update.
Since when does the DJI Fly app support the Goggles V2 when using DIY drones? Can somebody confirm this, I haven´t found anything online. I just gave it a try with the genuine Iphone USB-C to lightning cable and it didn´t work.
Nothing to do with X Files dude, you just did the test on low power mode, that's ridiculous... Could you at least update the title and description of the video 🤷
Its the same on high power.
@@stst8301 Absolutely not ua-cam.com/video/PuGnnXil42o/v-deo.html :D
you have to turn off the low power mode in the comparison, the googles 2 shows the air unit is in low power mode in this mode you only get 30fps or something 😅
Arm the quad in crash flip and you’ll get out of it, or turn off auto temp control
They are both o3 though …. Explain that
There’s a difference. It’s very noticeable. I have no reason to tell you these things other than it’s what I’ve found.. the $2.00 I’ll make from this video is for sure paying my mortgage
The results will be the same my guy
There is nothing to explain, i know the new googles 2 has a little bit more latency, dji himself says you get a lower latency on the v2 googles, 😅 but in the comparison is one unit in low power mode, but the other one isnt its maybe not quite the right way to show the difference 😅
Hi, at 9:29 you say the old goggles are cheaper, but in the beginning of the video your chart shows them as being $200 more expensive than the new goggles. Which one is correct?
Oh dear.. with goggles 2 you need to arm the o3 quad first to exit the low mode and the frame rate will set to 50mbps or 25mbps instead of 7mbps before you arm the quad..
I noticed this when i got my goggles2 with o3.
Cheers
Same as V2. Theyre both on low power mode.
he is comparing the refresh rate of the two goggles, not the frame rate. refresh rate is fixed and will not change regardless of the power mode. 🍻
Incorrect and he’s comparing both in low power mode. Refresh rate has nothing to do with power mode.
@@DronePsyche if you got goggles 2 then you will understand what i said. Goggles2 images is 7mbps only before armed. And this is not happen with v2.
@@TERBANGFPV he clearly says that people will say this but that even when armed it’s exactly as he’s demonstrating
Steele 😂🫶🙏 low Power mode Opppps❤️
Do you need specific firmware to have video out via the dji fly app? Or it works just with O3s?
I asked this too. Hopefully someone can add some more context.
Have we got an answer to this question? When I connect to the DJI Fly app it doesn’t give me the ‘go fly’ button
A steel to be clear, the LCD screens have 144 Hertz refresh rate, but you're only getting 120 FPS from the video transmitter.
Other than that hundred percent agree. Also I have a very similar shaped face to you and I don't even think I want to take the chance on trying to put goggles2 in the running.
thanks for the conclusions, i own v2 and have just been waiting a bit to get into 03, and now i know i dont need to bother with the new goggles
I was beginning to think I was the only one that hated the new goggles! For me, the biggest gripe, well, the two biggest grapes were the touchpad! It was a total pain in the ass and I was always accidentally touching it and changing something when I didn’t mean to. and the big one was field of view. There was too much that I couldn’t see, battery, read, outs, and things like that. Whereas with the older goggles, I can’t even remember the different names because they’re so similar, I can see much more of the information on the screen, and as you mentioned, I can wear my glasses.
You can lock the TouchPad so you don't accidentally touch it.
Thanks Steele!! Always like to hear your take!
I'm trying to get the goggles v2 working on an iPhone via the DJI fly app but when I plug it in I still get the "connection guide" button instead of the "Go Fly" button. I have the most up to date app. I have an apple cable that goes direct from USB C to lightening. Is there a specific firmware I need on the goggles to be able to do this or a setting on the goggles maybe?
I didn't jump on the DJI Goggles 2 hypetrain because I'm a cheapstake but it makes me happy that I get the smoothest picture possible atm on DJI.
Good truthful comparison, especially about the twitchy picture
My goggles 2 actually broke after not much use, and I was super careful with them. In contrast Ive been throwing my v1's and v2's into my bag with the rest of my stuff for years without issue. Got my goggles 2 back from repair yesterday and thought about selling them, but decided to keep them because I have a set of v2's already and I enjoy the weight/size difference on my face. That said, I have been weighing all of the same plusses and minuses, aside from the frame rate issue you are pointing out. As others have said, I think your test my not be valid in that case because of low power mode. I've noticed no latency/frame rate difference personally.
Did you say the V2s can work with the older vistas? Because after my V2s update to the 03 air unit, I can't use it with my caddx vista now. If so, HOW? thanks
Yup sold mine too, fuck those things. V2’s ALL DAY!
Only issue I have ever had with big ones is them letting light in a bit. Aftermarket foam and they’re gold.
The hertz difference in your test is so evident because googles 2 and the unit are in low power mode. O3 unit goes to full power mode only when it gets arm signal from fc.
Both were in low power mode though. The O3 air unit connects in low power mode to the V2s until you arm as well. All things being equal, what other simple explanation is there that the video from the v2s is smoother with steele flying both quads. Yes, I understand confirmation bias but I think any reasonable person would come to the same conclusion whether they flew fpv or even if they didn’t. Honestly I haven’t seen one test out there showing that the g2s perform better re: latency or frame rate.
@@SkeezyFPVI agree that experience is the most important thing we have here to make our conclusion. But I want to point out, that the difference in real flight will be much smaller than shown in the experiment. Also, we can see 50 mbps bandwidth in v2 googles here against 7 mbps in g2. The conditions are not equal.
I bought the V2's as my big head can use all the room it can get. Being cheaper/better was a bonus.
I do really have problems with Goggles 2 to get the whole image sharp and in focus. I have ordered RHO lenses because they where a breeze on V1 goggles. For Goggles 2 they do not make any difference. I am also thinking about switching back to V2 goggles ...
Good decision dude, love my v2s & 03 unit all I run in my quads. Googles2 not only uncomfortable but they get hot & fog up on hot days my v2s never have.
And literally, from a flying perspective, it doesn’t react the same way when it’s flying, I flew both the avata and the o3 air unit. No “ghosting” as soon as you arm. In low power mode it’s less FPS.
I think you also forgot to mention v2 allows analog modules via a/v input which goggles 2 doesn’t have.
And they record audio. Why does everyone forget that? It’s probably my biggest pet peeve with the entire O3 system. So if you want audio on your dvr then you absolutely need the ability to use a non-O3 updated vista or air unit and v2 goggles. From a compatibility perspective, the v2s check ALL of the boxes for me. The ‘tiny goggle’ issue is moot to me if I’m remaining stationary. It’s not like night vision goggles where I might be moving 5km with lots of lateral and horizontal head and neck movements. I love my big old Cadillac feeling comfy ass v2 googles. I like the 03 air unit too. But it has no audio damn it!!!
@@SkeezyFPV Well said! Yes, analog is very good on the V2 goggles and why I don't want the goggles 2. Plus, I got prescription lenses for my V2 goggles and they are absolutely crystal clear perfect image quality! :) Fit great too with the 2nd gen foam....comfy!
Is the latency noticeably higher with the V2 plus module than a regular analog system?
@@HartBeat2 to me not much. Then again I’m no bando basher so for my light freestyle, and definitely with my TinyWhoops, i don’t feel the lag.
Thank god.. Someone who actually shows technical differences instead of complaining about how their glasses fit or how heavy the old ones are. You made my choice very obvious.
You should read the post about low power mode (the most upvoted post) before making your choice, this video is technically inaccurate
I've yet to fly digital but I did buy a new set of V2's a back in the fall. I haven't even opened the box yet. Glad to see some positive things still going for it and I can't wait to try them. Thanks!
What are you waiting for, dive in sir 🙌 holla if you need some help
@@Fly_High_FPV Thanks man. I plan on jumping on board this spring. I'm just trying to keep the priorities first but I'll get there.
Make sure to do the wtfos butter hack on your V2s. The set I got last September were on the firmware that couldn’t be rolled back with Margerine. 3.00.16 or whatever but Butter fixes all that.
Seems other than the form factor of the goggles 2, that aren’t that comfortable, the V2 goggles are better!
Plus, you can fly analog really well on the V2 goggles!
Just a note. I don't argue with your feeling about the delay and image colors, but your test isn't scientific. It stuttered because you didn't arm... and it is in low power mode. It doesn't really matter which equipment you use. Use what ever keeps you flying and enjoyning the hobby.
I purchased my V2 Googles back in November 2021, pushed the needed software with Windows 7, along with the 1200mw hack. Googles worked perfect for 2 months, then the image would freeze up during mid flight, causing me to use GPS rescue on my long range quads that I built. I sent my V2 Googles to DJI repair center and they ended up replacing the Core Board Module for free since this was a known issue for some Googles. If they would have not honored any warranty, the Core Board Module would cost $160 and repair service fee $65. They did remove my skin decal sticker and I had to update the software and 1200mw hack again, V2 Googles have worked great since then.
Just to rectify.. When armed it stops being laggy! The 2 goggles have 2 completely different behaviour.The new goggles goes in low power mode if disarmed.
Just to clarify,absolutely the same behavior on v2 goggles...
ARM THE QUAD! they’re in low mode otherwise.
Appreciate your stuff but you showed the Goggles in low power mode before flight which is not remotely comparable to the framerate in-flight. I know you mentioned it but it's super far from reality as a way to represent how it appears.
No you aren't the only one in the world! Very noticeable difference. I can also confirm the very comfortable fit of the old Goggles.
Very helpful review!
Thanks Mr. Steele
I was considering a purchase but will stick with my old V2s.
Good afternoon, please tell me how you got the opportunity to display the image from your goggles v2 on the iPhone?
Easy solution for mac users: Bootcamp windows partition. I updated my v2 goggles on my mac, using bootcamp running Windows 10, and it updated just fine.
I don't have any of your issues. Currently there is a FW issue with the Goggles2. Set your transmission to manual channel selection and make sure you have the Ham hack, this fixed all my issues.
wanted to switch from analog to digital and you convinced me to buy a V2 goggles+air unit o3. the next days we will see how it works for me
7:35 big mistake here in the goggles 2 you can see a warning that your air unit in low power mode, this majorly decreases frame rate. Does not react the same when at full power. Don't know why the v2 was higher fps
Im not happy with goggles 2 though, the optics and fit suck. Id recommended get a used v2 on ebay and get new foam for it.
Don't lie please... G2 are 7mbps in low power mode, V2 are 50mbps with low power mode disabled. If you did this test connected to the same O3 you wouldn't notice any difference.
I'm glad that my V2 still work well with the 03 units. Perfect combo For me also
Thanks for taking the time 👍🏻🔥🔥👀👀💰💰
updatable on mac
just need to mod the cable to use a 7.4V lion
Yeah, I had issues updating on mac os as well. I ended up running windows in a virtual machine since I didnt have my PC
I'm still rocking the V1 goggles, with my skill level they're plenty good enough
I started to think i was the only one lmao
I had V1s and wanted to run the 03, so i bought the Goggles 2. After 7 days i returned them and purchased the V2s. Maybe it was just me, but i found the optics to be hideous. Just couldn't deal with not seeing a fully unblurred image.
Hold on - at 10:13 - this is for O3 unit or regardless of vtx, the v2 will output to an ipad via Dji fly app??
Yeah, I can see the difference. well done.
Hey bre, wangley day, fingely dingely fangely way, zappidy happidy nappidy flay.
Also, I abso luv your face. It is cool and very funny at the same time, although mostly funny. I could stare at it all day and stay laughing. Thanks for having such a funny face bre, it's super, and funny. I'm so glad it won't fit, otherwise it wouldn't be as steely.
i had no idea you could plug the V2 goggles to an iPad. I just got a new ipad after about 10 years since mine died. I can use the USBC cable that came with the iPad...lol Did you do the WTF hack on the goggles for the OSD stuff? I haven't touched my stuff in 6 months since life got in the way.
Are you planning on selling that little 03 camera mount for your apex? Or selling the files? Really looking for a good solution for my 03 camera and that one looks great
Lots of "keyboard pilot" info in this. You are talking about the refresh rate between the two like its an issue. Its a 2ms difference.......
😂. Not latency bro it’s refresh rate. Consider a 144fps vs 300fps monitor Sure you can play but there’s an advantage not all can tell thought
I wish the v2 goggles had the form factor of the goggles 2. That was my biggest gripe switching from analog to DJI: big chungus goggles.
Video out to iOS devices only works with 03 air unit. Original air unit and vista don’t work
It would be cool to see goggle companies do what the new Beyond VR headset is doing which is custom fitting the faceplate to your face. When you order the headset, you take a lidar scan of your face with an iPhone and send them the 3d scan. They use that to make a perfect fitting foam cushion for your headset.
Crazy!😄
That might be possible by 3d-printing a foam insert that is custom. There is soft flamelike material. Check out colorfab if curious of filament properties. Filament called varioshore.
Love the goggles 2 personally. I did have to buy aftermarket foam to make them fit comfortably though.
! That was the case on V1 and V2 as well, drastically modified aftermarket foam to fit the previous goggles comfortably.. It is same with the new ones, with added point in nose blocking for some faces. But first modified foam already made it clear in 4:3 elements for me. Waiting for even better one from Ali - haters gonna hate but the screen difference is so good.
@@tomaszboril Yep, exactly.
You have a flat face and no nose???
@@sos1723 lol I’ve definitely never been told I have a flat face or small nose. The stock face plate doesn’t work for me. Maybe having some cheek bones helps so the nose doesn’t have to bear all the weight…I added a small piece of foam just under the bottom of the faceplate that rests on my cheek bones. That fixed the nose issue for me.
@@sos1723 yes i do not have nose, yet able to fly and fit the goggles myself with edits, same as previous and ALL other goggles I tried. None is perfect without edits. Dunno why ppl are mad :D fpv is expensive, goodbye to firmware development on v1 v2 ;)
Why are the v2 set at 50mb and the goggles 2 at 7mb?
I got rid of mine too. I will see what O4 brings in Q4 2024. Hint DJI they they need to fit my face without causing excruciating pain to the bridge of my nose and have wide optics like the v1/2 so my eyelashes don't have to touch to see properly.
Remove all foam on the v2 and just add some foam on the lower lip under eye segment. Your nose looks like mine. Should fit you too like that. The screen on the V2 is far superior and DJI will likely cut comparability at some point for the old goggle
One thing: goggles 2 records osd on dvr and phone video out, so you can rewatch all stuffs, include long-lat gps (if needed), but goggles v2 doesnt, when the O3 air unit turn off, video transmitter off and all OSD will go.
the line from deuce bigalo was hilarius! 😂
The foam fitting I completely agree with. The old ones fit a lot better. However, I would argue 1080p vs 810p is a massive difference. I ended up doing the opposite and selling the V2's because the new goggles were a night and day difference in visual quality. I'm not sure if the hand waving test was very accurate since the O3's low power mode using the new goggles drops the refresh to 60hz (maybe even 30hz actually) and 7mbit regardless of your video mode. When connected to the V2 goggles, I don't think low power mode works the same way since its still running at 50mbit. Your obviously a much better flyer than I am, but I couldn't tell a difference in flying between the two goggles. I can tell you the mistake I see most people make on the '2' goggles is running at 60fps modes and not one of the 100fps modes. Running in any of the 60fps OR 120fps modes, drops the transmit rate to 60fps. You have to run at one of the 100fps modes to get the low latency 100fps transmit speeds.
Categorically false. The v2's run 3mps in low power mode. Regardless that doesn't change the refresh rate of the screens.
i agree, there is no way you can see the difference (100hz vs 144hz) when the o3 has a maximum 120fps with the v2 goggles, it's not 144fps so it can justify the "144hz". So the 20fps difference on such as high refresh rate is not even possible to see the difference. Maybe, only if you play cs go. The v2 goggles on the video is clearly not even 60fps!
@@JohnArapakos I surprised Steele didn't know that!
I don't think he has seen the Chris Rosser video's about the latency in the different fps modes on the goggle 2's, I'm curious as well to see if he is in 120fps mode or in 100fps on the goggles 2. 120fps sucks indeed, terrible latency and it's actually 60fps reprojected..
You are absolutely correct. What is Steele smokin 😂
*this youtube video should be 60fps to see the hand movement more clearly
yes master,take out micro un o3,the inperpulipar distance in my case 71-72mm,when is open left zone...close right zone...
I found a decent solution to the goggles 2 foam fitment that gave me a zero light leak fit, and doesn't play tummysticks with the bridge of my nose. It did involve cutting the stock foam away from the face plate for about 2" outside and under each eye, then slipping some thin foam in and gluing it in. But it came out pretty clean. I understand your reasons. The form factor was the #1 jumping off point for me. I am really hoping they do ok without a fan when summer comes. Not putting a fan in was kind of a numb nuts move imo.
Thank you for saving me from the upgrade! I loved the idea of flying without my glasses but duh! LOS! So true 👍
Damn fpv has changed alot in the past 5 years damnn
8:40 I guess it looks "stuttery" only because OLED have instantaneous pixel reaction time. In Googles v2 you have blurring effect as LCD pixels are not that fast in chaining their colors.
Give use the info on how you mounted the camera. It looks really good. And it looks like it clears the standoffs in view???
About time ⏲️ honest and reliable facts about those two. Never had the goggles 2 and I don't think 🤔 after seeing this I'm. There is a reason why the goggles v2 r sold out. Thank u.
Low power mode...please arming the quad
Thanks for this. I''m still using V1 goggles... for work. Good to know nowadays I don't always need the latest version of everything.
Sold mine too and went back to the old one. DJI kind of just sells immature crap anymore.
Whether it's goggles that you have to cut because they don't fit, or an avata that just keeps falling out of the sky. Overpriced, immature shit that you can get angry around with.
Thank you for sharing. I was seriously considering the goggles 2 and selling my v2’s but you just saved me a ton of money on goggles. 😂
I use the v2 goggles with the 03 and with kiss and fettec I have to reboot my goggles every time to keep my osd. Do you experience this??
No but I’m on bf with v2s and and o3 and my OSD is all shifted right and then wraps around to the left and is driving me insane.
V2 still does its job pretty well. Thanks for the comparison!
I prefer the V2, by far.
I don't think the stuttering is anything to do with framerate, I think it's because the shutter speed is too fast. The same effect can be generated by using 'Sport" mode on a video camera. It's why they shoot movies at 24 FPS because the eye/brain sees one motion-blurred frame to the next as a smooth transition, whereas it has problems resolving consecutive razor-sharp images as a smooth transition. It's also why camera drones use neutral density filters so the shutter stays open longer to induce motion blur.
Thank you sir for the honest comparison 😁
Love my DJI V2 Goggles for Freestyle.....had to buy HDZ for racing...........Thx Steele, have fun flying ! Onwards and Upwards
I don’t understand why you would test the refresh rate with the drones unarmed, low power mode is a lot harsher on O3 than it is on o2.5(vistas and such)
From my testing it’s still
The same result
@@MrSteeleFPV you mean having both armed at full power? I’ll have to check it out I guess, am still keeping my v2’s either way because I fly analong with them lol
Hertz refresh rate absolutely makes a difference. I miss my plasma television when gaming. These new OLEDs and the regular LEDs all suck. Give me my plasma at 600 Hz, 120 Hz ain’t it.
I did exactly like you with the Old V2 Goggles Nose piece haha I needed to cut it for it to fit properly with the new foam. Big noses unite! :P
I just got a pair of Goggles 2. I’m cutting a cord and installing a 9v bec to an XT60 connector.
Is nobody watching until the very end? How is this NOT breaking every fpv forum/fb group?!
At 10:17, Mr. S talks about video OUT from Goggles V2 - "just plug it in via the usb-c dongle, and then to your iphone or ipad, hit 'go fly'.." What needs to be done to make this happen? We should alllll be able to replicate the same thing... I have the dongle, have a lightning cable, iPhone, iPad, DJI O3 unit on a quad - follow suit with the description in the video, yet no output from V2.... what's up?!
I would also like to know this! No success here either. Anyone have further info?!?!
You have done your service to our hobby, not sure where you go from here. Yes your my God I'm FPV
the padding you use on your "old" V2`s looks soo comfortable!
what do you mean about the walksnail system ? now with some updates?
I love my V2 goggles especially with the new hack to now run custom code one them.
thanks for the video buddy! Very Interesting findings. Appreciate you sharing this
Love me some confirmation bias. I just bought the V2 and O3 for these exact reasons :P
And Steele isn’t wrong 🤷♂️