The Problem with Amy (Sonic Origins Plus)
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- Ain't no way it took a year to put in some Game Gear ROMs and a Sonic reskin.
SEGA gotta tighten up if they're ever gonna make worthy Adventure Remakes, no more of these half-baked ports please.
Any footage that isn't mine is from these guys:
• Sonic Adventure DX: Bi...
• Sonic Adventure DX (HD...
• Sonic the Hedgehog (20...
Song List (In Order)
Main Menu - Sonic Origins
Collision Chaos - Sonic CD
Encore Mode - Sonic Mania
Tidal Tempest US - Sonic CD
Stardust Speedway - Sonic Mania
Timestamps:
0:00 - Origins is a mixed bag
1:46 - Amy’s Moveset
5:35 - The Problem with Sonic Origins
6:12 - Sonic Superstars Looks Sick
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Sonic Frontiers (Mentioned for 1 second)
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Sonic 1 ost
Sonic 2 ost
Sonic 3K ost
Sonic 3 and Knuckles ost - Ігри
it's funny, I know a mod game where you play as amy in sonic 3, and she bounces with her hammer like you suggest. Heck, she can even destroy walls and stuff that only knuckles normally can. So not only does she bounce, she can go completely alternate paths and short cuts. And this came out YEARS ago, so clearly we've all had the same idea, lol
0:15 ...I've just had the greatest "mind blown" moment. I didn't realise what the "A.I.R." in Sonic A.I.R. stood for until now.
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the biggest issue with Amy's design is that she doesn't autopilot her hammer attack like in super stars, which took up the button input where she should otherwise double jump.
why would you EVER opt to spinjump WITHOUT the piko piko hammer? it's a no brainer! just have her hammer always out like in super stars. it's stupid that it was even considered to be mapped to the jump button in origins.
futher more, her "bounce" aka Hammer Jump could have easily been implemented into origins, and i really prefer that attack in her kit to anything else because it gives her an edge over all the other characters. it was extremely helpful in the advance games!!! it gives her capabilities that won't outclass tails or knuckles, but still provides an extra opportunity for better exploration and better platforming.
if she had Hammer Jump coupled with a double jump she would have been a terrific character
All sega needed to do was give Amy the double jump for me to be satisfied
They gave her a double jump in superstars
@@lightninja4795I really think that change is gonna make a huge difference, guess we’ll find out in a few months.
"and amy should've... Bounce."
Fang : am i a joke to you?
Fang was playable in origin?
S3air extra slot amy had an better moveset, in my opinion
*h a m m e r*
Great video man, im glad that someone else likes adventure 1 and advance Amy’s gameplay lol cuase most people just don’t like it, origins Amy is so underwhelming, she’s fun but they could have done a lot more, wish she had a double jump and her hammer flips and bounces from advance have Amy still be fast but have her have her hammer abilities, I hope superstars Amy has a bit more differences than just “double jump”
Yeah if I had it my way she’d bounce off the ground with her hammer, but a double jump is so much better than nothing.
0:35 im surprised this happens BOTH in Origins and Sonic 3 AIR
SEGA always finds a way to miss the mark bruh 💀
That’s why I come back
At this point SEGA fumbling is a law of the universe
@@Romanode_ I don't mind the Hammer Rush, but I feel Origins really ruined Amy's moveset, all because a lot of SEGA fanbrats complain that her moveset made her slow. I mean, what's wrong with having a character that goes for a methodical approach, if speed is not your thing? And I don't mean having Amy from Adventure 1 or Sonic '06; no, I'm referring to using the way she behaves in Sonic Advance, in which she has as much speed as Sonic does in Sonic Advance, but Amy's moveset makes her a bit of a powerhouse; even E-122-Psi's Amy Hacks of Sonic 1 and 2 have this balanced. And it's disappointing they didn't include the aforementioned moveset, because it would've been cool to see how her "Sonic the Fighters" Hammer being turned into a sprite with multiple angles... but no, it's just turned into a glorified Donkey Kong Hammer. I mean, I don't mind the Hammer Rush, but having it be the only Hammer move (that isn't a glorified Double Spin Attack from Sonic 3), is just lame. Actually, let me rephrase the jump Amy got in Origins. It would've worked a lot better, if she had a normal jump when you push the jump button the first time, but resort to using the Hammer Spin Attack when using the Jump Button again. I recall there was an attack where you get the drop on a badnik with Amy's down attack, which is less heavy than Mighty's drop attack. But yeah, rather disappointing.
Sonic team usually does. Sega seems to rarely miss the mark when it comes to yakuza or persona.
They almost had me; I would have purchased if Metal Sonic was playable.
Amy should have been a hard mode. Amy's supposed to be the more "normal" character who doesn't have the special powers or abilities, hence why she uses the hammer as a tool to help her keep up with the others. But instead she's no different from any other character. They removed her defining trait because it was an "offensive" way to depict a female character (as if it wasn't one of the most relatable character traits of the main cast).
There's a reason why this dogshit gameplay was removed, because it overcomplicated Amy's playstyle for no good reason at all. Amy is not a "normal girl", not anymore, you guys just want her to be treated even worse than she used to be.
Now that Superstars Amy doesn’t have the Ham Spam boost…I think I underestimated it’s usefulness.
Yeah, we only want something back when it's gone.
Exactly, but I’d take her double jump any day.
In 0:15 there's a sonic 1 game that called sonic 1 forever have amy, and amy had the ability of the bounce hammer and it's cool than sonic origins, the game made by team forever
In 0:15 there's better sonic game and the games is
Sonic 1 forever
Sonic 2 absolute
Sonic 3 A.I.R. (angel lsland revisited)
They are the remixed games of the normal ones
2:10 Wait, wait, wait
That was a fan trailer?!!?
I thought that shit was real
It’s $10 because of the stinky digital deluxe edition that was included with Plus
The digital deluxe isn’t worth a single cent.
I still bought it though Sonic brainrot goes crazy
this is so underrated.
but very cool video tbh.
Amy has the same move set in superstars but they also gave her a double jump and that’s a great addition
I feel like Amy's Spindash should've been reskinned so it's actually her hammer dash, it would've looked really sick!!
And maybe if you did the hammer spin and then landed, instead of doing the hammer dash it'll do the hammer jump? idk just spitballing but the hammer dash would've been SO COOL as the spindash
spinball IS in there
We got spinball at home
2:40 I mean Knuckles was always the hard mode character in classic sonic games (Also his Jump isn’t too bad to get around).
We get audio from hell SEGA
romanotion yearns for the antonblast
I yearn for the what
Can someone please tell me where the 0:52 clip comes from?
It’s from a web-series called “Starter Squad” it’s great stuff.
The moveset youre describing is Extra Slot Amy. Personally im not a fan of it, it feels more like a Mighty thing to me (cause lets be real, Mightys ground slam is kinda lame). My personal choice for "familiar, but simplified" moveset for Amy is the Amy Mania one. She has the hammer jump and a little hammer helicopter twirl that acts as a short glide. It effectively does all the things a double jump can accomplish but in a more limited and Amy Advance like way. She also has a hammer smack on the ground but the move is mostly useless and could be cut if they wanted to go for a "one button" moveset for her.
My *real* personal favorite moveset though is Advance Amy. She plays different in a way thats just fun. Its not for everybody since she takes a bit more skill to not get hurt and keep speed up, but she really rewards knowing the levels with blistering speed. She works in classic games with the moveset too, as the "Amy In" series of mods proves.
You underrated asf
Hey I like some of the Game Gear games. Won a few. And Ames I love her. Even though different still love her
Yeah I think they should have either gave her the double jump or high jump not both and they went with the double jump
Mania Amy Moveset is Better
I enjoy Origins, but it's still not quite the Mega Collection Plus.
0:52 wait... didn't sega fixed the issues and glitches and bugs of this game and saved the game?? And it become fine?
yeah, better late than never.
Yeah I've seen over hate to this game it's good to someone appropriate
A Amy ficou desproporcional aos outros personagens, Tails estranhamente tem a cabeça, pés e mãos maiores em relação a Amy, parece que o seu modelo não pertence ao jogo, é a mesma coisa após dar um pulo, Tails tem uma bola maior, enquanto Amy tem uma menorzinha junta de seu martelo.
I didn’t really notice, I just think it’s weird how Amy is shorter than classic tails
@@Romanode_Na seleção de fases ela é maior, acho que até em pixels ela é um pouco mais alta, porém ficou estranho Tails parecer maior.
yeesh
Still a better product than Mario 3D Allstars
I mean yeah
Only if you are a hardcore Sonic fanboy. To others, simply playing Mario Galaxy. The best platformer ever puts that above.
But emulating/porting a 3D game requires much more effort than a 2D genesis game. But since Sonic Origins struggled to emulate Game Gear games, it loses.
@@Mario_GamerZ I don’t think I’m the fanboy here. Mario 3D allstars is a garbage product. Not only did Nintendo make it a six month limited release to force people to pay full price for it and encourage scalping, but there was no effort pin to the collection. The game has no new content, there’s no neat extras, Mario 64 runs in a 4:3 aspect ratio, Mario sunshine has GameCube UI, and there’s no reason why galaxy 2 couldn’t have been included in this collection. Sonic Origins isn’t perfect, but at least we are given a new character to play as, we have Knuckles in CD for the first time ever, we have gameplay improvements over the original releases such as Super Sonic in Sonic 1, we have extra modes such as mirror mode, we have new animated scenes to flesh out the story of the classic games, we have leaderboards, we have 17 classic titles to enjoy, and the price is cheaper than Mario 3D allstars . And just FYI, I could easily run, Mario 64, Mario sunshine, Mario Galaxy, and Mario galaxy 2 on my gaming PC at 4K 60 FPS for FREE if I really wanted to.
@@faithful_otaku7339and guess what everything you said can also apply to sonic origins plus
@@8408374jr22 No it doesn’t, Sonic Origins doesn’t have a BS limited release, nor is it $60.
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Hi 👋 😊
What’s up
@@Romanode_ The sky
I would have expected the visuals to match Sonic Mania, a redone soundtrack to be at parity with Sonic CD... sure the Genesis originals sounded good but despite what current Sega thinks the aim was always to make them sound as good as possible so they should have brought Tee on for Sonic Origins... redone tracks in his style for all of the Genesis games would have been worth it even with the bugs at launch... I could justify it as a game I extract the soundtrack from but plays bad haha.
Advance Amy in Classic style game is a trash. Change my mind. The classic games have one button gameplay. Sonic fans can hate everything.
I think her move set in origins is just fine.
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I respect your opinion 👍🏽
Better than sonic mania plus and this sounds petty because she doesn’t have a bounce ok. Better than mightys drop that is never useful.
Mighty also was impervious to spikes (for one bounce) and could became pretty invincible to damage by crouching