Shocked! Never thought a 2in 2s Micro at this weight would perform // YMZFPV Lightning 1 Review
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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How does the recent export ban impact YMZFPV? No impact
Warranty and return policy is as stated on the website
Time from purchase to shipper handoff: 2-4 working days
YMZFPV will have resellers. RaceDayQuads will be the first...more to come
YMZFPV does have plans for additional "HD" drones
Lightning 1 has 10000kv motors.
Extra screws will be included with the Lightning 1
Lightning 1 frame will be sold separately soon
Lightning 1 components will be listed separately in 1 to 2 weeks
Support section will have Betaflight dumps and potentially future stl files
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YMZFPV has responded to the questions I submitted down below. Do you have more questions for YMZFPV?
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Below are the responses from my questions to YMZFPV (These are not quotes from YMZFPV. I have "recanned" them for easy reading.
How does the recent export ban impact YMZFPV? No impact
Warranty and return policy is as stated on the website
Time from purchase to shipper handoff: 2-4 working days
YMZFPV will have resellers. RaceDayQuads will be the first...more to come
YMZFPV does have plans for additional "HD" drones
Lightning 1 has 10000kv motors
Lightning 1 will include extra screws
Lightning 1 frame will be sold separately soon
Lightning 1 components will be listed separately in 1 to 2 weeks
Support section will have Betaflight dumps and potentially future stl files
Nice job Nick getting them to recognize these extras are needed to promote confidence in purchasing from a brand new company.
Anyway to tell them to use 14000kv? Thats a deal breaker unfortunately
@@JonR35 14K motors is too high a KV for a 2S drone. Always has been, always will be! We typically top out at 11K or 10K for 2S. Yes, they never should have shipped him a drone with 14K. But, we should cut this new maker some slack... They are brand new and will learn from their mistakes... Hopefully.
If they did ship these with 14 K motors, they'd have tons of returns from people burning up motors or ESC's. Seriously.
@@KOrnhOliO1 I do agree. and almost feel like I need to go back and look to see if they put a motor limit on it. Won't be able to do that until next week. Out of town with the family now.
Okay, I legit freaking want one!!
Almost only flying analog here, very rare that I fly my Avata, but also just recieved a Walksnail HD pro kit, but will still fly analog for years ahead 😊👍
Anyone who flew a emax freestyle knows
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Anyone who's flown a quad knows😂
WoW, it does have the shape of the Tesla pickup truck. 😎
Had to go back and check the GPS you mentioned. I thought maybe they offered it with GPS, but no. I did put a micro m10 on a baby ape. For no good reason, I just like it
lol. I get that you like it, but what does it give you? Peace of mind that you won't lose it?
@@NickBurnsFPV in part, yes. GPS rescue or being able to pull logs to see last known position as I don't trust rescue in BF so much. But the osd of relative speed kind of nice if not actually useless.
@@Mupshot ah yes speed. I do get those questions from time to time in videos. I always have to guess :)
If they sold just the frame, I'd totally buy it to re-frame my Cetus X.
They said they would list the frame separately soon…ish. Also racedayquads will be a reseller
I do like the look of this one! With TomoQuads out of the game I really wish someone would make another rear camera perspective frame like the old X Fighter.
The x fighter was a one of a kind for sure.
I miss Tomoquads, AirbladeUAV and GnarlyFPV. Luckily there's still a way to get the AirbladeUAV frames.
Cap is a 220 10V on mine.
Is it possible to fly with a lightweight Thumb Camera (Runcam Tumb Or hawk Eye Thumb)?
yes it's possible.
Please review the odonata hd frame
It’s basically the same as this but lighter.
Odonata HD is a great frame for a 2” top mount freestyle build.
I personally prefer even lighter toothpick builds with Quad66’s SkyRyder or Jacks3Dprinting frames with Gemfan 2015 bi-blades and 1002s… but I still enjoy flying a heavier top mount battery occasionally.
The frame in this video and the Odonata HD are better for HD builds… way better actually!
Looks same as the hglrc draknight. Well pretty similar. Someone inspired someone.
Yup yup. I want to side by side them 😂
Do you know what version of ELRS this comes with? I’m stuck at ELRS 2.x because of my BetaFpv LiteRadio.
My recollection is that is came with version 3.x.x of elrs
Hi Nick, are you picking this or the elrs crux 3 1s.. or would you pick something else completely??
Depends. do you have batteries for both or just one? What is your flight goals? Long flight time, performance?
@@NickBurnsFPV so I have an emax ez pilot pro, I have a flywoo firefly fr both 1s, I’ve got a crux35 which annoying doesn’t fit in the case with props on, so I was looking for something 2-3” to take away with me on holidays, the crux35 is a tiny bit big and the flywoo is impossibly small, I think I’d like more performance that the tiny fr, if I get a 2s I would be buying a few batteries, I have 6s 4s and 1s batteries, I liked the 1-2 s crux3 but it’s not elrs and no one has it, and I can’t build one for the same price lol, so I was just wondering what you thought, I don’t have your skills so I fly around slower, I do like slightly longer flight times but I’m happy to change batteries, I’ve outgrown the ez pilot, currently batteries last around 60-90 seconds when I get that out it has the PMB tune without the mixing , sorry I appear to have written a small book !
@@Dad_with_a_drone I presume your goggles are analog? I think one to also to consider that is 2s and 2inch is the flywoo nano baby 20. Its lighter and smaller than the lightning 1. I prefer 2inch 2s, still small and has great agility but I don't believe it flies as long as the 3inch 1 quads. So depending on what your preference would be....size or flight time and how strong one preference over the other is that would dictate the choice. If flight time crux3 1s is the choice if size then flywoo nano baby 20, one thing to note on the nano baby 20, i don't think the vtx is as good as other vtx at the same power level. Be sure to compare the video reception of the lightning 1 vs nano baby 20. I don't mind the "booK' at all, it actually helps me be able to understand and reply more appropriately.
@@NickBurnsFPV thankyou that’s super helpful, I hadn’t considered the nano baby 20 primarily because my flywoo fr had to go back to the shop 3 times and I ended up replacing the camera rather than sending it back again! Also my for was whisper quiet and about 20 packs in it’s started to sound rattly and I haven’t had a heavy crash with it, so I wasn’t sure what the longevity would be ! I’ve been getting 12-16 mins with an 850 on my crux35 and I’ve realised 3-4 mins with a small one is fine for me, as I really don’t mind changing battery packs and heading back out, it gives my mind a bit of a rest lol, so I don’t think flight time really effects me that much ! so would you choose the flywoo over all else in that range ? I’ve also considered just building one, I seem to prefer a 400mw vtx just because where I usually fly it just gives a more stable video, I am analogue, I have the cobra x box goggles, I can’t seem to get along with the smaller goggle, I really liked my emax beginner box goggles but the range it very very poor and they don’t record lol
@@Dad_with_a_drone the vtx is a weak spot with analog mw power and overall signal quality. I do think considering the lightning 1 is wise as it does have a better camera and 400mw. Its just heavier than it needs to be with the metal components. This extra weight decreases the overall performance some. But with them being a new company they could be more concerned about QC and overall longevity.
looks alot like the HGLRC Draknight 2-inch
I am hearing this a fair bit in the comments. Will be interesting to see that one when it comes to market.
A spoiler? Hornin' in on BubbyFPV. . .
oh really RR/Bubby has one? But is it metal...because metal spoilers are more efficient and make the quad faster :)
@@NickBurnsFPV Actually, it's kinda his signature. He regularly gets heat from the other RR dudes about it. Looks cool tho'. Makes me think it's a Red Bull or a Ferrari. . .
that frame is so sick and luck they sell it separately
mm nope , not safe for me , with those stack
stack? Are you referring to the x12 AIO?
yes
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i really like this frame looks cool. do okay
She's looking like either HGLRC or these guys stole the others design. This thins looks prettynidentical to the HGLRC DraKnight... 🤔
After reading a few similar comments i looked it up. and for sure they are similar looking quads. Some differences I see. Single arm vs dual, lightning 1 has all metal parts across the top, drashark are 3d prints. The uprights are very very similar with slight difference in the drashark seemingly has holes in the uprights. The angles also appear different...where the drashark looks like it could take a second layer for HD video system. But yes, they do look similar. One person also commented this frame was on aliexpress as a geprc product but they didn't link it, and I don't see anything similar on aliexpress under the geprc brand.
Why is TBS hard to get? Cuz it’s all in Ukraine?
Not certain, good question for those behind the company.
What a cool looking frame! And i remember 2 years ago saying we NEED 2s options! This looks like a fun option and i cant wait to grab one to add to the collection on micros
I really like the aluminum top piece connected to the carbon fiber...i also really like thr looks pf it and the ability to fling it! Its always great to have ultra light quads but ive actually found that my baby naz and other heavier micros have ended up being my favorites...thwyre a lot of fun to throw over the shed or a tree etc and you get that faster drop...it just feels more like a larger quad when youre looking flr that flight style...its always fun to have that option and a qquad pr 2 with that abilities
I think 150 might be a touch high with no additional info or reputation built up and no ability to utilize the website and cant purchase backup frames etc...maybe start around 110? And get some units out there and build up some trust and a name and build up the website and more offerings like bare frames etc and then raise the prices once youve gained some traction in the community. 150 for a shot in the dark with no backyp frames etc or info on the website to help build a little more confidence in the company just seems like theyre asking full lrice without quite having fully gotten this offer worked out completely. We need a website, we need backup parts and frames, we need all the info on it, and we need that reputation and confidence in them built up. Until then. 100-120 for a gamble seems like a more reasonable offer. I want one but im honestly thinking i couldn't get another baby nazgul or something i know i can trust 100% for the same price or less... they need to come into the market swinging with a complete website and a deal we cant refuse in order to jump this thing off i feel lik
Good thoughts here. I do agree as well. I would have liked to see a website fully outfitted before launching a product for sale.
My last dozen quad purchases have all been micros. I love Micros and recently purchased my first 5" in years. I have half a dozen 5" and they are good, but I just like the micro quads especially when they fly like this little rocket. This one is on the way from Bangyougood LOL!
Just got this drone yesterday and holy moly is this drone ever fun! Tune out of the box could use some work in propwash handling, but overall good!
Came preloaded with betaflight 4.4.2 out of box which was great to see :)
How long take to deliver it to you?
Looks great and takes a beating! Thanks for letting us know what you found out about this particular model. Always great content.
Hi Nick, is it possible to fit a walksnail avatar nano vtx to this lightning 1, it has two spare uarts, would have to disconnect the camera and shut down the anolog somehow! What do you think? Alastair
Its possible but it will be pretty tight getting that second board in there. The angle of the front and rear mounts complicates things some.
I think the spoiler and the ridge up front could be for turtle mode.. it looks like it would roll over right on the motors and prevent that function if you remove it. Im just going off looks though, i havent flown one
I didn't have much luck in the grass with turtling. But generally don't with any micro. Needs to land flat in the grass...nearly "sitting" on top.
I wouldn't care if this was fast or not, it looks hot! I'm sure for many it's fast enough, and from the footage of you thrashing it in the backyard it shure doesn't look slow. Light and fast is fun, but fragile. Some times it's nice to just add a little camera angle and not worry as much about gooning a tree. Looks like there's almost enough room to sneak a HD0 Whoop kit in there. I'd be happy with Analog, that HM board has never done me wrong. Sub250 ftw! Thanks for sharing this. Bookmarked for sure and shared out with a few friends. Cheers!
Almost enough room. We have to raise the back up to gain a few needed mm. Also many are seeing the hglrc draknight is very very similar and analog only as well. Conspiracy!!! 🤷🏻♂️
WOW! Nick, that is so awesome to fly! I still have an analog module and is mounted currently on my dji fpv goggles :)
Dji goggles with analog module is the best analog setup EVER!!!
same here, diversity eachine with custom firmware, analog / digital in one pack
I still use 1103 motors for my 2" builds whoops and toothpicks. I'd like to make my 2" whoop lighter with these exact 1003, 14,000kv. I have 1103 11,500 kv with these props and it's amazing.
Hey! I really like the Quad but now its out of stock and they have a new version on their website. Will you make a Video about that?
Are you referring the the lighting2?
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes
@@Sprote1 I do plan to review it, but i don't have it yet.
@@NickBurnsFPV Okay great
My forst thought was "i want that frame!" 😂 they should sell them for sure!!!! I want it! 😅
I thought this might be the case. Some like to build as much or more than fly.
Awesome flying and review, Nick!!! 😃
Pretty nice little quad! They could also replace the aluminum sides with carbon fiber sides. It should be much lighter!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
indeed. I should have mentioned that. Only so much can be included in a 20 minute video :)
@NickBurnsFPV I'm trying, but I can't remember the name of that quad... It used 2.7" props and the name was something 120... Do you remember it? 😬
Either way, it had carbon fiber sides as well. And I built a 2.5" quad with that frame, with 1106 SunnySky motors. 😬
@@MCsCreations Was that the one from fullspeedrc? the leader 120 maybe?
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes, exactly that one! 😃
@@MCsCreations I still have mine hanging on the shelves. That one was well ahead of its time. Unfortunately it looks like fullspeedrc has all but closed up shop.
this kind of looks like the hglrc draknight but without the arm braces (i think thats what they're called?)
Is this the new one they have been marketing, but not available?
she seems thicc in the right places, hope their availability grows so I can order from a company in the states...
Nice to see a brand new company entering the marketplace for FPV!
Sure, it's a little heavy for a 2", but that aluminum frame cover is really cool looking and protects things pretty good. Too bad they sent you 14K motors and we see the zippy flights with those motors, but we'll be getting 10K motors...a huge difference! Kinda wondering how they got 14K motors to not burn out on 2S?? We can probably return some of the zippiness of backing down to 10K motors by using a smaller, much lighter lipo.
Nick, did you try your favorite NanoTech 300 mah lipo to see how it performed?
Still, even though it's just an analog quad, and I refuse to invest in analog products ... And have for a couple of years now, it's new to FPV and we're kinda sparse with new companies coming into the hobby! So, qudos to YMZFPV! WELCOME! 😎🤘
P.S. My self built DJI Vista 2" quad would be almost exactly the same weight as this quad, if I made it a Naked Vista 2" like I originally planned to do. So, yes, it is heavy, but it's a very nice effort for a new manufacturers first quad in FPV! 👍
I didn't test the nanotech 300mahs. Didn't occur to me...oops. I am likely going to visit the naked 03 front soon. I have a few kits coming.
Thumbnail and title look like a bad JB video wanting to sell crap... 😢
At this point I am not surprised
Nick, I finally ordered some of that cloth motor wire tape! :) It looks great and holds very well.
I learned about that "emax tape" from this channel as well and I've been using it and loving it for a couple of years now!
yup, and doesn't collect dirt and grass. I find the trick is to get it on clean without touching the adhesive side to my fingers. I even clean my tweezers when applying it.
Great to see analog products still rolling out !!just not interested in hd. But yeah I'm gonna need to get on the elrs train here soon. Figuring out options
ELRS like many things in FPV has an initial learning curve, but flattens quickly after first successes. Now that we no longer have spi elrs on AIO its much better too.
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It looks like a ton of fun, what batteries would you recommend for this ?
I mostly use GNB red label batteries, but the green labels are okay as well.
I put walksnail in mine. Had to raise the top frame up around 7mm with some screws through the bottom, then it all fit inside. The camera mounts a little further back, which cuts off some fov but in 4:3 mode theres no obstruction. Might make a different mount for it or drill some holes further forward.
With digital it's now my favourite quad. Flies so nicely. It's heavy for its size but then that gives it thos illusion that you're flying something bigger than you actually are.
It does drift through turns a lot though, have to be on point with your controls.
Lot's of fun!
good follow up thank you
Nick, I have been flying mine for several months and it is great! I have one question. This has the integrated ELRS receiver using a UART, and I have upgraded my radio to EELRS V3. I can not seem to get it to bind to the radio. I appears to have no wireless update feature through the receiver. Do I need to use pass through in ELRS configurator? If so, what is the target and Device Category?
No, that is the big downside to this AIO, with ELRS being spi based the elrs version is "baked" into the version of betaflight. So to upgrade elrs betaflight firmware has to be updated as well. If you take that one be double sure to save a copy of the cli dump so you can refer or roll back to that state.
@@NickBurnsFPV It took three days and a fair amount of hair loss LOL! to fix the issue! Turns out that ELRS V3 does not like a baud rate of D250, D500, L250, L500 or L1000 set in the ELRS script. There is a page on the ELRS Github site that i found after a crap ton of UA-cam and internet searching to include asking you and Josh Bardwell. Josh did not reply by the way! i do not like to update because of precisely this reason, and the other 8 other quads with SPI have worked with the baud set to D500 when I was on ELRS V2. I remember several years ago, the ELRS devs were supposed to make future updates backward compatible according to something that I read. They never did an now the users have to upgrade TX and RX firmware every time there is an update. If you fly one quad that is no issue, but if you have a darn fleet of 50 quads like I do, it is a pain. This is why I told FRSky to take a leap years ago! They as you know tried to force people to jump through hoops in order to continue using their hardware. Developers should listen to the users and improve updates accordingly. I changed the baud rate to 150Mhz and all eight quads began to communicate with the radio It appears to be a little more laggy, but nothing that I can not work with. Thanks, for the help!
At 150...not bad
It looks like tiny trainer 533.
yea, it does. I didn't make that link
I emailed them and they said this to the 14000kv motors :)
Hi, no problem, We will add 14000KV option in the store, you can place an order on our official website later, thank you for your support
Funny. I wonder if something got lost in translation
Not sure, I guess time will tell, I was pretty straight forward in the email.
They emailed me again and said it has been updated for 14000kv on the site.
@@JonR35 I just got back and I do not find a throttle limit or motor reduction.
Looks like they added the 14000kv to site, woohooo!
AS Joshua Bardwell says, "Ray from the future here! the website has all of the things that Nick mentioned in this video!"
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Im really interested in the tune of this quad!
the betaflight cli dump with the tune is on the ymzfpv.com downloads section
Do you think it would carry the insta Go 3 camera?
carry it yes, fly very long or perform well, not likely
The aluminum canopy looks almost exactly the same as the Diatone GT Marauder 5" from 2017-2018.
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the YMZFPV Lightning. Yes I like it. No, I don't like the price. At first I thought Spoiler, I have to get one, I figured great they are using the Happymodel X-12, great flight controller, Caddx ant, good camera, 1103 14000kv motors, and a neat looking frame. But I would have liked to have seen this closer to the Darwin prices. Thanks again for the video and information about this quad and company.
It’s seems a good business idea would have to bring the price down and gain more interest and awareness to the brand with a price bang out the door. Or do a temp price reduction or a limited coupon
I like that thing. Its a nice style to the body that ya dont get with your e-max's and HomeBuild quads
I mean 105$ is pretty good innit?
Did you mean $150…I see you typed $105. Maybe I am missing something
Think I still prefer a hx100 with 1103 with 2s,that little quad hard to beat even now
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can you install a walksnail vtx
yes, fitting it in will take some creativity.
Nice as it looks like it would make a great 2" racer. Looks like a tinytrainer.
Hi nick great review you are micro man is it better than the flywoo 2inch? I have one and was wondering if i need to upgrade because they know longer make the 1.5 mm frame now discontinued they have 2.5mm but its 5 grams heavier and i already changed the canopy and added a antlite so im heavy wanna feel agile again. The canopy is the steamline from tks frame still order from them thx to you is the lighting agile . Is it worth the upgrade?
To get that agile feel we have to get the weight back. This one isn’t as agile as the flywoo
its definitely a cool looking like frame... I love the little spoiler at the back.
Mine took a month to arrive!
Sounds about right for standard shipping from china. The companies that ship DHL from china generally arrive quicker. At least here in the US.
I am officially changing my name to "Huckability FPV". 😂👌🏻
You're a taste maker, Nick! 😎🤙🏻
Lol, DO IT!!! 🤪😇💯
This was on Ali express as a gep product
what???? really??? got a link to it. I am only seeing the phoenix as a 2inch frame from geprc on aliexpress.
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Sorry thaught i replied earlier but its a hglrc called the drack night
Sorry for replying late went rc car racing but its a hglrc draknight is identical in most ways except motors keep up the videos my man there gggrrrreeeeeaaat happy safe flying
I will certainly be interesting to see them both side by side
I definitely want to buy it, but it has to have the motors they sent you.
Unfortunately that isn't going to happen, they said 10k kv. Why they sent it with 14k kv is a miss.
It looks like HGLRC Draknight
You always see x12s working so well:( just built a quad with one and the esc is dead. It was Doa. hope rdq replaces it.
Keep us updated, most of the shop won't replace DOA happymodel products but ask you to send it back at your cost to happymodel for a repair...
@@DonJohnsonFPV , RDQ is replacing the dead x12.
Can it run on 1s?
no the flight controller won't activate on 1s.
Chinese ban should mean we'll be flying more micro's this channel could really lift off!
We shall see the impact...its always a wonder from words to practice revealing the impact.
Looks awfully like a HGLRC Draknight. Still pretty neat though
Yup. I hope to get to side by side them 😁
It looks similar to hglrc draknight
Nice quad 👍👍😍
Ahh my break from fpv, well more less watching these videos I need to catch up haha hot dam this little guy rips!!!
Welcome back!
@@NickBurnsFPV 🙏🏽🙏🏽🕺🏻 have now caught up on all your videos bro jeez I’m a little behind hahah
Pretty late for a comment but hpw does this compare to the tp3 toothpick or babytooth?. Im skeptical about it out performing the tp3 in most aspects. The tp3 is already extremely efficient, agile and quiet but what do you think Mr. Burns?
Its been a very long time since I have flown a tp3, I recall I liked the 3s iteration more than the 1s. I didn't think the motor/prop response what was I was looking for on 1.
would you say the lightning 1 outperforms even the 3s iteration of toothpick?or what about the 3s toothpick running on 2s vs the lightning?@@NickBurnsFPV
@@faktionfpv3590 no the lightning 1 doesn't outperform the tp3 on 3s.
I like it and fantastic review Nick
Wow, those motors on your race rocket might be awesome. Granted I hear u on not being able to tune that well. I’ve noticed when you go to the extremes on low weight like your race rocket, it’s much harder to tune . But as the weight goes up it seems much easier to find a tune that works , so maybe that’s what’s happening
That very well could be. I certainly haven't built a micro at this weight to test the 1003 motors on.
@@NickBurnsFPV I used to always try everything to shave weight of all my builds but kept running into that hurdle. Atleast at my tuning skill level sometimes it’s better to have a little weight. That being said that build flies great
Nice video nick..💪🏻👍🏻
Looks fun
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I'd like to see a 5inch version of this frame
Whats interesting is that this frame, the aluminum canopy part, looks almost exactly the same at the Diatone GT Marauder 5" from 2018. I had to pull out one of my old frame kits to check because I was like, wait, is that a 2 inch Marauder?
@@housinit I don't know, the marauder looks more like a racer, similar to the geprc mark3
Will it be coming to our favorite fpv stores or just direct? I don't like ordering from China.
In the pinned comment and video section I have their responses. They do indicate it will be coming to racedayquads and other resellers. Racedayquads will be first. Likely they have an agreement or discussion going on already.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks Nick!
@@NickBurnsFPVhave one ordered! Rdq in stock. Ordered through your affiliate link. Thanks for reviewing this!
@@glitches911 I think I also seen you had asked about the elrs rx. Its uart based so it can be updated over wifi. I did not update as it was already on elrs v3. I only updated the binding phrase to match the one on my radio.
@@NickBurnsFPV yeah I had found the answers I just didn't look hard enough lol. You are the absolute only video on this quad!!!
Analog! Analog! Analog!
Yes sir!!!
"Flies!"
They normally don't bother me, but man that day I had like 4-5 all over me.
It's got a spoiler!!!!
means its faster right? :)
I hate to ask.....what - no BNF frsky?
yea, I guess not. Maybe AIO and frsky isn't worth the support headache....just a guess.
@@NickBurnsFPV I get it.....I think that a bunch of us still use frsky though...thanks for your great content...
This looks like an awesome ripper! Love to see new companies coming out with quality products I have been wanting a 2s ripper that's not a "toothpick/whoop design and this looks perfect however I'm confused as to why it has 14000kv motors but the site only has 10000kv🤔 I really hope they offer it with the 14000kv motors also some people want longer flights some want more power....put me down for power 😁 the price isn't bad at all in my opinion with elrs🙏🏼 Another excellent review nick and great pointing out the motor issue ✌🏼
14000kv is too much. Check out the rcinpower 1003 motor data sheet.
My curiosity today makes me wonder if they used 14000kv motors on mine with a throttle/motor limit. Unfortunately I am away from home until next week now.
@NickBurnsFPV I would love to know if they did 👍🏼I think 14000kv and 21000 is perfect for a 2s 2inch quad if they offer it in 14 I'm grabbing one😁✌🏼
@@scu-dub 14000kv will be good for low pitch 2015 bi blade props on 2s. But damn check out the pitch difference to the gemfan 2023. 14000kv is too much on 2s. Just read the 1003 rcinpower motor data sheet.
Nick will probably confirm a MOL
@@scu-dub just got back. I do not find a throttle limit or any motor reduction.
I wish I didn't have a bunch of laws preventing me flying my first and only FPV quad.
Well if you live in the US you don't currently. Even remote ID's start date was just delayed
@@Wind_Rapport UK unfortunately.
@@Wind_RapportAnd, this is far under the 250g need to worry about remote ID.
lol yes I can see it's under 250g - not worried about RID either way@@KOrnhOliO1
@@joehubbard-bz2sd Yeah, it really annoys me. It's basically a toy. We already have laws to deal with criminal damage and other stuff. All this new nonsense is silly.
Isn't this the same as the HGLRC Drashark?
I don't think so. Didn't the drashark have a different frame design and 3d printed canopy? The one I reviewed was also 1s battery
@@NickBurnsFPVSorry I mean the draknight
@@timon72489ah yes. I hope to get to try that one out when it hits the open market.
The cap is a nice touch on the X12
all these weird shape frame are pointless, a classic tp3 toothpick is still so much more efficient that these “designs”
And ? I also fly a tp3, but I also enjoy some more school bus style frames, sure the tp3 style frames are really good at their job, but innovation is also good, so let them do weird stuff, one day they may do something better than the tp3 style frames we love
Confused; they appear to be 14K motors according to the labelling, but the company says it ships with 10K, which would make it fly completely differently? I'm concerned that what they've shipped you for review may be different from what they sell to us mere mortals.
Yes, 100% that is a concern. I am leaning towards they may have put a throttle or motor limit on the one they sent. As normally 14000kv on 2s with 2inch triblades would be problematic, not just pid tune, but very short flight time. I would like to circle back to that motor limit but I am away with family now. :(
I built a 2" armattan tadpole using a Darwin tiny ape i had broken the frame on broken and 2 more motor posts on it. Replaced the motors with 1104 7500kv. Weighs 71 grams no battery, 107 with rdq 550 2s battery. I get 5 minute flight times. Half the flight time the tiny ape got with smaller motors. I think I'm going to get one of the lighting 1 and give it try.
Nice would buy if digital... Still missing a smal freestyle like babyhawk freestyle in digital....
FULL STOP. i really like how these folks thought outside of the carbon sandwich box. it's a clean look, and looks oh so fun to fly.
i'm dustin off two of my old builds and goin walksnail with them. Until then however, Analog is my ride or die. lol
Many are seeing similarities with the hglrc draknight. Which is similar
Have tried the hglrc draknight which looks very much like this one?
that is one I haven't tried.
@@NickBurnsFPV yeah, just checked the specs , and its almost like a direct copy, but draknight can run 2-4s and is around 4-50$ cheaper