I totally forgot to mention the camera angle is adjustable. We can move the "tail" screw point to increase and decrease camera angle. In my flights there is one "notch" to increase angle and two do decrease angle. Sorry I didn't cover this. 🤦♂
I use affiliate links when I remember to. I don't think the issue is the links, it is if the person providing them is genuine. And you are, Nick! You are providing honest opinion and the links are there if people want to support providing such info.
Yup. If someone gives a good honest review, what they like, what they don't, etc... and that helped me make up my mind, the affiliate link is totally cool. If someone is just saying whatever they can in order to get me to buy something, link or not... shady. Not that any of that would ever happen in this hobby. ;)
@@NickBurnsFPV I know you love to do it because you'd be flying anyways, but I also know that you have to do a lot more work to share the knowledge you gain with us.
@@GR8SCOTT Yes, I have had a long love for RC, but fpv has held my attention and enjoyment the longest of the RC adventures. sharing is hard for me to have true topical sharing. I find sharing product experiences an easier topic....al be it less creative 🤣
@7:56 I have a similar issue that happens sometimes with one of my quads that has the older HM 2.4 ELRS Whoop AIO FC. Whenever I do turtle mode to flip over sometimes it won't take off after rearming. When I've seen this happen it usually seems like one of the motors either isn't spinning or spins in the wrong direction and I have to flip back to turtle mode, arm/disarm and then go back to non-turtle mode for it to resolve and be able to take off.
That could be it. I will have more time with it as I work on PIDs and then switch it over to 75mm. Hopefully it was a 1 time issue, but if it repeats the symptom I will certainly report it as I might make videos on better PIDS or 75mm conversion.
I’ve been totally jealous of your flying abilities Nick, for going on four years now! You are a freak of nature. Try as I may, I can barely get around from one room to the next. Nevertheless, you serve as an inspiration to all! That much I know. Keep up the good work, buddy.
I bought my mob6 in January and did the same than you with soldering a bt2 pigtail. Unfortunately, we are several whoopers on reddit who ran into problems after that change (throttle getting out of control and quad shutting down mostly at the beginning of the flight when the battery is full). Seems like the previous model was not made to handle such powerful bt2 batteries or PID not adapted to it. Let's hope that this new one does.
Hi Nick, love the new light up gates. I can see the edges a lot better. I think that are my next investments (lol… mother calls it my time out of her hair stuff) thanks buddy maybe I’ll not crash into her nice chairs and table so much. She will be happy with ya. Any way thank you so much for taking the time to make these you tube movies you are appreciated. God Bless you and yours. Sincerely, Other Pops Post Script: say hello to the Mrs. and kids and let them know that they are appreciated also for giving up their time with you so you can do this work for all of us.
Thank you. I think the gates add a bit of flair and maybe even make it more fun to fly. They do come at a price. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like mobillygates.com is still operating. I will let the family know they are appreciated as well. Thank you for being so thoughtful
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the Happymodel Mobula 6 2024, I still have and fly my mobula 6, but I could use a newer version. Thanks again for the video and information about this quad.
Once they make one with analog fpv footage but digital recording i gotta buy one, how do they even do that tho? Digital vtx and analog camera or something?
well there are multiple aspects to that comparison. The 65 pro has 35 mm props, so it tend to fly more like a 75mm whoop than a 65mm whoop. This makes it more challenging for some to fly inside, but flies better outside than a 65mm. Also 35mm props are somewhat rare. The 65pro also uses a battery tray made for 65mm whoop batteries like 300mah, so the flight time can vary pretty widely depending on the flight style. Better, the mob6 2024 will be more indoor friendly and the 65pro fly better outside.
I have a mobula7 1s and that thing with the "leaf" 7:53 it happens to me too. It seems like when you arm it too fast after the turtle mode it happens. You just got to arm it again an all works fine. Im not sure if thats a bug or sth idk🤷♂️
Thanks for the review on this. Been looking forward to your perspective on this whoop since it’s been out. Can’t wait for the hdzero version review and hope we can see a whoop round up comparing this to the new lite betafpv frames and offerings. Thanks Nick!
Nick: From what I see analog will be ELRS I already have a $200.00 Desk ornament Tiny Hawk 3 & Radio Master on My QX7 screwed around for hours could not get either on them on Wi Fi or to bind. I will stick with TBS so simple and works fine for me. Sadly, with the cheap cost ELRS is here to stay. Ben Herr
Hi, What would you recommend me to do if I have my own set of motors which i am happy to use but want something that will still fly well I am not afraid of building
I don't see a question here. Build something I guess. You have motors and have commented on a whoop video. I presume the motors are motor typically for whoop. Based on this information i don't have a recommendation.
I personally fly indoors in a small room and sometimes on our first floor, and I really dont like the runcam nano 3. The FOV is very noticable the smaller your environment is and 0.4g is certainly something I can reduce somewhere else instead of the camera. also nick! do a powerloop on that treadmill!
About the a30 connector, I genuinely wonder why we're shifting to the battery having a hard-mounted connector. I liked the batteries where there was a seperate lead. If the issue was that the leads ripped off when unplugging, isnt it possible to just apply some hard adhesive compound on the battery's terminals? Almost all my whoop builds with the battery strap going down and batteries that have hard mounted connectors ends up needing to be so much longer than it needs to be.
That first rip was spicy! 🔥🔥 Affiliate links are fine, as long as you are making a review and not a commercial. You test for weeks not justin hour. Awesome prop remover suggestion I have to share, Wiha 26810 5.7-Inch Precision Chip Lifter. 😅It changed my life!
No, I am not running from affiliate linking...I do from time to time remind all that its not something I am reliant on and that everything in the video can be found with traditional web searches or as I sometimes say "googlefoo".
Yes, we needed a refresher, but I am concerned there isn't much more that can be done to lower weight and make them better. Have we reached the whoop pentacle.
@@NickBurnsFPV might be a good thing. If you can buy a race spec whoop off the shelf maybe it will increase the motivation to be more outgoing with the flying. After all it looks to me like there is a lull in flying, not in product choice
@@Timboslicce Ah yes, agreed we have so many choices is can be head spinning. I know I have a very hard time mentally keeping track of the stuff that has come out in just the last 90 days.
I'm loving my Mobula 6 for indoors. After a few crashes the camera is just out of focus. Is it possible to adjust the focus? Anyone else had this issue?
its possible but difficult and to some degree risky. The lens is glued in, so we have to loosen the lens glue without impacting the glue to the pcb. A heat gun can come in handy, but careful, as to much and it will loosen the glue to the pcb. If we get the lens free we can turn the lens to focus.
Hi Nick! Thats a really nice new mob6! I think happymodel did a good job. The new cam does good in the led light. And it does freestyle : ) he had put the karate tune on it does great.O wauw we can now just update the elrs reciever thats a big plus thats awesome. I see this one more as a pro version.....
yea, the soldering and high kv does make it lean towards the more experienced. I am hearing the karate tune works well. I will have to give that one a go....probably first.
Yes probably do that first 😊!!! Have fun flying!!! Do you think there will be a mob7 pro like a Freestyle edition? That would be awesome! I recommend the rcinpower 0802 27000Kv : ) @@NickBurnsFPV
@@airdevil21 I don't have any official word on a 75mm version and I haven't asked. I keep my manufacturer communication pretty bland. In my estimation there will be, but it could be 3 or more months. They have done this same sort of path in the past.
@@NickBurnsFPV Oke I will just be patient and see what they will come up with I hope it's an absolutely awesome pro mob 7. I do like what they did with this new canopy and frame!
those bnf's becomes better and better! still think Caddx Ant Lite is superior if you're looking for the best video quality for its weight, although it's not the lightest. but 1200tvl makes a difference
Nice updates and big camera there. It looks pretty sweet. Take a bit to get use to the new canopy. Guess theres something new to look for when my current 6 packs it in, maybe as parts for that price. Thanks for the review.
I have a 65mm with a diamond board and I just think it just doesn't want to play nice with any motor, frame or prop combo. Quite interested in this when its released despite myself also preferring the 75mm platform.
The 5A EEW MOSFETS that 95% of whoop AIOs use wear out super fast for me, especially when using higher KV motors and turtle mode. I try to keep track of the FETs resistances and usually change all 12 every 3 months or less. Once the resistances start diverging, performance tanks noticeably in a couple of dozen batteries. By your description… this is possibly your issue.
@@lemonsquareFPV I would agree with you if it wasn't a brand new board. The new happy model diamond boards are not worth the risk of getting a bad one.
do tiny whoops normally have this fisheye view, it kind of makes the drone feel too big to my eye which is not what I want when flying a tiny drone. Also seemed out of focus to me but is that just normal for tiny drones?
for inside flight we often want the largest fov we can get as that allows us to see more and therefore avoid hitting things inside. Yes this is pretty normal.
@@modquad18 One aspect I was thinking of including was an fov comparison, I did such a poor job getting that together I cut it out in frustration. Maybe I can try again, or someone else will. I think skittlefpv did an fov comparison on the hdzero version....maybe I missed his analog camera comparison.
Sad to see they went back to the old antenna, I've had 2 mobulas break due to the copper antenna snapping, i have 2 other mobulas, that has the box elrs antenna and they're both going strong a year later
@@NickBurnsFPV this will be the first bnf ive bought in a long time and I'm definitely looking forward to it. Never had a higher performing 65mm whoop- only standard mobula 6s with 19000kv.
Great review. I’m not a fan of the Runcam Nano 3. Though it might be lightweight I have some serious purple hue on both sides of the screen. This is with two different Runcams. Glad to see a new camera.
yea, the image of the runcam nano 3 isn't a favorite. I have a bias to lower weight and more whoop performance over image quality. I wonder if before I aged and my vision when down if I would have been different.
Indoor flying is not so good in Germany. We have signal Problems becurse our Building made of Stone and Concrete and not made of american Cardboard. And I wondered why your buildings always fly away by light breezes
Hey, can I get detailed picture of the AIO top and bottom. Our local group ordered 10 to 13 and they all have motor noise lines in the video. Trying to figure out If there is a component change on the board that's causing the noise.
Could you figure out if there is a component change or what causes the issue already? I have the same problem with white diagonal lines when the motors are running. Maybe a capacitor in the powerline of the cam could help or another camera.
@@matt_mega no resolution. Check and confirm motor 2 is the source of noise. We used a scope and could not find dirty control power. We think there might be a FET too close to the video signal area. I thought I saw a new revision of the AIO with motor plugs. That may solve the issue.
@@ryannair8761 The question is why was the first batch not affected or why has no early reviewer detected and mentioned the issue. Did HM change anything from the first batch to the latest batch on the v1.0 superx aio or the cam? The v2.0 aio has gotten a layout change as you can see on their website. This may solve the issue but is no solution for the actual owners of the mob6 2024. Hopefully there will be an official statement and workaround how to get rid of the noise otherwise there will be a lot of unhappy customers. :-(
@@ryannair8761 Did you find out anything new about the noise issue? The lines getting weaker with lower voltage levels below 3.6v in my opinion. I guess it's caused by harmonics of the esc pwm signal from the front right motor. Twisting the camera wires doesn't help.
Thank you for another great whoop review, but people are complaining more and more about diagonal white lines in the video. As it seems your model was not affected by this or you haven't highlighted it. For me it is quite annoying and thinking about returning my mob6 2024. Besides that the camera quality is very bad regarding light sensitivity, white balance and wobbling, especially outdoor. Compared to a C03 with almost the same weight, this cam is a nightmare and definetely not state of the art in 2024. Maybe you could do a video with a closer look at these problems. Would appreciate it very much. Thanks!
I can't say what people are experiencing is wide spread or not, or it could be they are flying in rough RF environments. With mine not showing these signs and the one person that has sent me DVR I can't confirm this is an issue or a perception issue. I recommend flying Raceband 8 as it has the least possible interference and I made a video on my video setup and that video is linked in the description.
So crazy u just posted this. Last night like 12am i was shopping building 65mm pro lightweight 35mm props. Wanted more kV on motors.. Maybe i just do this 31mm one The battery A30 have a wire lead so not an issue on kink
Hey Nick! Have you had a chance to try out the Quad Gas flat cell batteries yet? They look the same as the webleed/tiny whoop ones…also, about how many cycles do your quality 1s batteries last before they start to sag out? I seem to only get about fifteen to twenty good runs out of them.
Oh interesting, I have not heard of Quad Gas. I will have to look up that brand. Unfortunately I can't give a number before the cells start to sag out....only a guess The 16 new batteries I show in the video have got to have at least 20 flights on each at this time. I didn't see or notice any performance degradation yet.
They can be useful if we want less overall thrust, performance and flight time. which can help especially inside with throttle management and control, or if we want to shoot smaller and smaller gaps. Otherwise I much prefer 75mm whoops.
The cli dump files with pids and filters is available at the happymodel website www.happymodel.cn/index.php/2024/02/24/mobula6-2024-1s-65mm-ultra-light-micro-fpv-whoop-bnf/
I think the fatshark scouts come in two versions. Hdzero and analog, this quad requires analog goggles. It does not come with batteries to my knowledge. Check the product pages package contents.
Oddly, a picture frame. I knocked into it and it fell off the wall breaking the glass. I go new glass for it....I think it was maybe $12. The pictures are on the wall with command strips. Not the most secure...they fall off on their own sometimes.
Tune seems a bit high and/or filters are too low because I see occasional switches. Overall, I’m happy to see something new to the market, especially this new AIO board. I hope it’s more reliable than the Diamond board but that’s almost guaranteed! 🤣
This is a good overview, but there’s still information that the racing community would really like to see… like weight of the FC itself, VTX power output accuracy (25mW), gyro/receiver/VTX durability (also, new Betaflight target or existing one?)
I will keep these in mind as I word on seeing if I can come up with better pids. I know I won't be able to the measure the vtx output, I don't have the immersionrc meter, but other items seem doable.
No worries! I know myself and many others have been waiting for this, hoping for an improvement of current FC quality, but the things I’ve mentioned are the common concerns. Appreciate the content that you provide!
@ElectricFpv remind me, is that one the metal whoop frame? Or maybe the metal frame one is the snapper65. Sheesh my memory doesn't dial back all that well 😅
Do you find that the batts without pigtails are harder to plug into the quad?. Also have you done any mods to your zorro for longer batter life? Thanks as always one of the only reviewers i trust
Other than the struggle to get the battery pushed in as I did in the video, no real pain point. Batteries with battery wires are more flexible for sure, but we have yet to see these flat cell 1s with a battery pigtail. Maybe one day.
@@Euwanh85 true but I don't find those batteries to perform as well. I have been asking GNB to make or find these flat cells to offer under their brand. That would help whoopers globally be able to get high quality batteries.
I don't specifially have one in mind. the DC connection is, DC(5.5*2.1mm) with input voltage range of 6v-26v. I would expect there to be a wide variety availble for various products.
My smile was related to the current ongoings, but I do from time to time like to remind anyone that doesn't like affiliates that a web search is a perfectly good solution.
I’m just laughing with everything that’s been going on lately with a couple of channels that will not be named. I know you have a full time job and don’t worry too much about the affiliate stuff. Great review as always!
@@Wildest_Wahoo Yes, it is nice to not have that stress, the channel funds stay in fpv. Either sponsoring events, donating to fpv software development, paying for giveaway shipping etc.....
Hey, My analog FPV setup has decent range, but sometimes the video in my googles starts to randomly drift to the right and gets black/white sometimes. After a few seconds my Skyzone Sky04X beep once and the video signal is perfectly finde again. This happens super randomly, completley independent on how far the drone is away from me... Also don´t think its a overheating issue... Any tips on what to do? I need the video signal to be reliable, since i´ll use it for a fpv-job!
@@NickBurnsFPV alright, thank u so much! I´ve noticed, that the problem doesnt appear on my fpv screen, so its propably the googles! Just weird cause i didnt change anything in the googles for years:)
Sorry. not trying to play into the drama. I probably laid it on a bit thicker than I normally do. I do, from time to time, try to remind everyone that web searches are good alternative to links. I often wonder if google has affiliates to every site on the internet. :)
that is a rough question. I have seen them last 2 minutes or more, but really it depends on the heat. I accidentally flew an AIO without the vtx antenna, I noticed the video wasn't as good, and when I finished the flight and brought it in I noticed the antenna was gone. It was fine after I replaced the antenna. So we were flying outside in the heat or worse sitting on the ground powered on without antenna I would hope it would last 2-4 minutes without damage, but not much more.
My camera died after 5 minutes of gentle crash free flight. I'm sorry but that's just not normal. I'm so disappointed, I'm starting the return process. I can't justify putting parts into something that died in 5 minutes without crashing.
100% I still fly analog primarily, probably because I fly inside alot and my favorite micro is 2s 2inch analog. We just can't get the same performance on micros with HD weight added.
@@NickBurnsFPVcouldn’t agree more! I just love analog and it’s so easy to assemble a micro with these 5 in 1 boards. Everyone pretends analog looks horrible while it’s actually really good because we now have such good cameras for analog.
@@doodgeslagenmug I often wonder if we have a group of fpv pilots that started during the invent of HD fpv. This leads to the thought of analog being so bad.
@@NickBurnsFPV I started fpv in 2022 with the Tinyhawk 3 of which i also watched a video of yours and back then i didn’t think analog looked that bad at all. And when i got it in real life, i was actually impressed how good it looked in the goggles for such a small quad in analog. Looking back on how these older analog cameras were (like on the tinyhawk s), yeah that looked bad. I can understand people who got into HD around the bad analog camera time never looked back. Too bad because micro’s are secretly the most fun :)
@@doodgeslagenmug ah I see. So can I ask what made you go with analog and the tinyhawk rather than something bigger and digital? Obviously I agree micro are so fun and don't draw attention, safer and if needed don't require RID.
Thank you. We are lucky enough to live in the midwest US where real-estate is pretty cheap and we have made many improvements over the years. Like life it's all a work in progress. Kitchen still needs a remodel from the 80s cabinets....or at least my wife wants to target that sometime.
can't say at this moment....at work. Please email me at nickburnsrc@gmail.com and I can take a look. You might also want to check the video reception video linked in the video description.
@@NickBurnsFPV I think it’s specifically the new folded cell “Lava” batteries. I’m not 100% on this. Just something I saw on a Reddit post that listed the actual manufacturer of those cells and all the companies that sell them. To my knowledge, there’s only one manufacturer of those 300mah 75C folded cells.
@@calebthomasralph yes, I have been told by resellers there are only 3 lipo manufacturers, everything is just branded from those three manufacturers. The folded cells very likely only come from the 1 of the 3...I haven't asked that specific question.
I totally forgot to mention the camera angle is adjustable. We can move the "tail" screw point to increase and decrease camera angle. In my flights there is one "notch" to increase angle and two do decrease angle. Sorry I didn't cover this. 🤦♂
Is BgNick2022 the most recent code you have?
I use affiliate links when I remember to. I don't think the issue is the links, it is if the person providing them is genuine. And you are, Nick! You are providing honest opinion and the links are there if people want to support providing such info.
Yup. If someone gives a good honest review, what they like, what they don't, etc... and that helped me make up my mind, the affiliate link is totally cool. If someone is just saying whatever they can in order to get me to buy something, link or not... shady. Not that any of that would ever happen in this hobby. ;)
You are the nicest guy in FPV!!! Thanks for all you do for us!!!
oh thank you. I try to just be me....whatever that is :)
@@NickBurnsFPV I know you love to do it because you'd be flying anyways, but I also know that you have to do a lot more work to share the knowledge you gain with us.
@@GR8SCOTT Yes, I have had a long love for RC, but fpv has held my attention and enjoyment the longest of the RC adventures. sharing is hard for me to have true topical sharing. I find sharing product experiences an easier topic....al be it less creative 🤣
@7:56 I have a similar issue that happens sometimes with one of my quads that has the older HM 2.4 ELRS Whoop AIO FC. Whenever I do turtle mode to flip over sometimes it won't take off after rearming. When I've seen this happen it usually seems like one of the motors either isn't spinning or spins in the wrong direction and I have to flip back to turtle mode, arm/disarm and then go back to non-turtle mode for it to resolve and be able to take off.
That could be it. I will have more time with it as I work on PIDs and then switch it over to 75mm. Hopefully it was a 1 time issue, but if it repeats the symptom I will certainly report it as I might make videos on better PIDS or 75mm conversion.
That’s odd. I’d increase the idle figure first to about 6.0. Then I’d increase the ESC startup power in BlHeli or BluJay.
From 6s to 1s in the garden! :D That’s a nice 65mm! Thank you for the review
Thats a jump jump isn't it? Going from riding a bull to a much more comfortable feeling in flight.
I’ve been totally jealous of your flying abilities Nick, for going on four years now! You are a freak of nature. Try as I may, I can barely get around from one room to the next. Nevertheless, you serve as an inspiration to all! That much I know. Keep up the good work, buddy.
Ah thank you. I do fly often, I suspect its so much repetition.
Nick your information delivery is consistent and precise. I really enjoy your content. Subscribed!
Glad it comes with BT2.0. I had to solder on BT2.0 on my other 2 Mob6s. Looks noticeably more nimble than the old one too.
Ah a slight difference, it comes with A30 which is compatible with BT2.0 batteries.
A30 best. More available batteries
I bought my mob6 in January and did the same than you with soldering a bt2 pigtail. Unfortunately, we are several whoopers on reddit who ran into problems after that change (throttle getting out of control and quad shutting down mostly at the beginning of the flight when the battery is full). Seems like the previous model was not made to handle such powerful bt2 batteries or PID not adapted to it. Let's hope that this new one does.
Hi Nick, love the new light up gates. I can see the edges a lot better. I think that are my next investments (lol… mother calls it my time out of her hair stuff) thanks buddy maybe I’ll not crash into her nice chairs and table so much. She will be happy with ya. Any way thank you so much for taking the time to make these you tube movies you are appreciated. God Bless you and yours. Sincerely, Other Pops
Post Script: say hello to the Mrs. and kids and let them know that they are appreciated also for giving up their time with you so you can do this work for all of us.
Thank you. I think the gates add a bit of flair and maybe even make it more fun to fly. They do come at a price. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like mobillygates.com is still operating. I will let the family know they are appreciated as well. Thank you for being so thoughtful
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the Happymodel Mobula 6 2024, I still have and fly my mobula 6, but I could use a newer version. Thanks again for the video and information about this quad.
Once they make one with analog fpv footage but digital recording i gotta buy one, how do they even do that tho? Digital vtx and analog camera or something?
Would you say this Mobula 6 is better than the Meteor65 pro. Looking to buy my first whoop after having spent some time in the simulators.
well there are multiple aspects to that comparison. The 65 pro has 35 mm props, so it tend to fly more like a 75mm whoop than a 65mm whoop. This makes it more challenging for some to fly inside, but flies better outside than a 65mm. Also 35mm props are somewhat rare. The 65pro also uses a battery tray made for 65mm whoop batteries like 300mah, so the flight time can vary pretty widely depending on the flight style. Better, the mob6 2024 will be more indoor friendly and the 65pro fly better outside.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you kindly for your feedback. I will be using this mostly indoors. So i think the mob6 will do for now.
Thank you again 🙏
As always amazingly informative and honest, thank you! Just purchased one + the charger you reviewed ^_^
STICKUURRRRRSSSSS...HAHAH I am back from my travels, its good to see your videos again.
I have a mobula7 1s and that thing with the "leaf" 7:53 it happens to me too. It seems like when you arm it too fast after the turtle mode it happens. You just got to arm it again an all works fine. Im not sure if thats a bug or sth idk🤷♂️
Thanks for the review on this. Been looking forward to your perspective on this whoop since it’s been out. Can’t wait for the hdzero version review and hope we can see a whoop round up comparing this to the new lite betafpv frames and offerings. Thanks Nick!
Nick: From what I see analog will be ELRS I already have a $200.00 Desk ornament Tiny Hawk 3 & Radio Master on My QX7 screwed around for hours could not get either on them on Wi Fi or to bind. I will stick with TBS so simple and works fine for me. Sadly, with the cheap cost ELRS is here to stay. Ben Herr
Hi, What would you recommend me to do if I have my own set of motors which i am happy to use but want something that will still fly well
I am not afraid of building
I don't see a question here. Build something I guess. You have motors and have commented on a whoop video. I presume the motors are motor typically for whoop. Based on this information i don't have a recommendation.
Sorry a bit unclear but i am asking what aio/camera/vtx you would recommend to use with betafpv 27000 motors
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@@puc19 really any 1s 5in1 AIO that is available. The superx ELRS v2 from happymodel is a recent one.
What do you think of the happymodel diamond f4 board?
I personally fly indoors in a small room and sometimes on our first floor, and I really dont like the runcam nano 3. The FOV is very noticable the smaller your environment is and 0.4g is certainly something I can reduce somewhere else instead of the camera.
also nick! do a powerloop on that treadmill!
Thank you for a great review Nick once again. Love your work as always!!!
Thank you. appreciate the kind words.
About the a30 connector, I genuinely wonder why we're shifting to the battery having a hard-mounted connector. I liked the batteries where there was a seperate lead. If the issue was that the leads ripped off when unplugging, isnt it possible to just apply some hard adhesive compound on the battery's terminals? Almost all my whoop builds with the battery strap going down and batteries that have hard mounted connectors ends up needing to be so much longer than it needs to be.
90 degree battery led on the quad does help solve that issue, but we have yet to find them come on a bnf, its all aftermarket
That first rip was spicy! 🔥🔥 Affiliate links are fine, as long as you are making a review and not a commercial. You test for weeks not justin hour. Awesome prop remover suggestion I have to share, Wiha 26810 5.7-Inch Precision Chip Lifter. 😅It changed my life!
No, I am not running from affiliate linking...I do from time to time remind all that its not something I am reliant on and that everything in the video can be found with traditional web searches or as I sometimes say "googlefoo".
Great video. Glad to see the whoops back in action
Yes, we needed a refresher, but I am concerned there isn't much more that can be done to lower weight and make them better. Have we reached the whoop pentacle.
@@NickBurnsFPV might be a good thing. If you can buy a race spec whoop off the shelf maybe it will increase the motivation to be more outgoing with the flying. After all it looks to me like there is a lull in flying, not in product choice
@@Timboslicce Ah yes, agreed we have so many choices is can be head spinning. I know I have a very hard time mentally keeping track of the stuff that has come out in just the last 90 days.
I'm loving my Mobula 6 for indoors. After a few crashes the camera is just out of focus.
Is it possible to adjust the focus?
Anyone else had this issue?
its possible but difficult and to some degree risky. The lens is glued in, so we have to loosen the lens glue without impacting the glue to the pcb. A heat gun can come in handy, but careful, as to much and it will loosen the glue to the pcb. If we get the lens free we can turn the lens to focus.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the reply Nick. I'll give that a go.
New fastest laps I have seen you do there I do hazard a shout. Nice flying.
Hi Nick! Thats a really nice new mob6! I think happymodel did a good job. The new cam does good in the led light. And it does freestyle : ) he had put the karate tune on it does great.O wauw we can now just update the elrs reciever thats a big plus thats awesome. I see this one more as a pro version.....
yea, the soldering and high kv does make it lean towards the more experienced. I am hearing the karate tune works well. I will have to give that one a go....probably first.
Yes probably do that first 😊!!! Have fun flying!!! Do you think there will be a mob7 pro like a Freestyle edition? That would be awesome! I recommend the rcinpower 0802 27000Kv : ) @@NickBurnsFPV
@@airdevil21 I don't have any official word on a 75mm version and I haven't asked. I keep my manufacturer communication pretty bland. In my estimation there will be, but it could be 3 or more months. They have done this same sort of path in the past.
@@NickBurnsFPV Oke I will just be patient and see what they will come up with I hope it's an absolutely awesome pro mob 7. I do like what they did with this new canopy and frame!
those bnf's becomes better and better!
still think Caddx Ant Lite is superior if you're looking for the best video quality for its weight, although it's not the lightest. but 1200tvl makes a difference
Love your professional reviews and your channel I moved to micros as well thank you!
oh wow thank you. Another micro fan....excellent.
Nice updates and big camera there. It looks pretty sweet. Take a bit to get use to the new canopy. Guess theres something new to look for when my current 6 packs it in, maybe as parts for that price. Thanks for the review.
Mob6 still running wild? That's pretty awesome too
@@NickBurnsFPV A few old frsky ones in various forms I gifted to a friend thats starting out. We some how keep em running.
@@amin0_acid310 ah yes poor old frsky.
man, its the first time in 40 years that i ever see a wading pool in someone's yard.
wading pool? Here I mostly hear of wading pools as those $20 pools from big box stores that about 8inch deep :)
I have a 65mm with a diamond board and I just think it just doesn't want to play nice with any motor, frame or prop combo.
Quite interested in this when its released despite myself also preferring the 75mm platform.
I think I will work on PIDs for it, then swap over to 75mm.
The 5A EEW MOSFETS that 95% of whoop AIOs use wear out super fast for me, especially when using higher KV motors and turtle mode.
I try to keep track of the FETs resistances and usually change all 12 every 3 months or less. Once the resistances start diverging, performance tanks noticeably in a couple of dozen batteries.
By your description… this is possibly your issue.
@@lemonsquareFPV I would agree with you if it wasn't a brand new board. The new happy model diamond boards are not worth the risk of getting a bad one.
waw, it looks like it sounds quite smoother than any other whoop.
do tiny whoops normally have this fisheye view, it kind of makes the drone feel too big to my eye which is not what I want when flying a tiny drone. Also seemed out of focus to me but is that just normal for tiny drones?
for inside flight we often want the largest fov we can get as that allows us to see more and therefore avoid hitting things inside. Yes this is pretty normal.
Yeah, nano 3 cam better all the way around. How’s this one do in low light compared to the n3?
I think this one does handle direct sunlight better.
@@NickBurnsFPVInteresting. I only fly my 65’s indoors, but good to know 👍🏽
@@modquad18 One aspect I was thinking of including was an fov comparison, I did such a poor job getting that together I cut it out in frustration. Maybe I can try again, or someone else will. I think skittlefpv did an fov comparison on the hdzero version....maybe I missed his analog camera comparison.
Sad to see they went back to the old antenna, I've had 2 mobulas break due to the copper antenna snapping, i have 2 other mobulas, that has the box elrs antenna and they're both going strong a year later
From what I have read it seems like the community has had more trouble with the cube antenna. I personal haven't
Dang Nick. Almost broke my legs running to the desktop to make an order. Clicked on your video for an affiliate and wah, wah😅
oh man....that excited? Or you just playin with me?
@@NickBurnsFPV this will be the first bnf ive bought in a long time and I'm definitely looking forward to it. Never had a higher performing 65mm whoop- only standard mobula 6s with 19000kv.
@@kurtzFPV oh I see. I was originally surprised they went higher kv, they often don't do that.
@@NickBurnsFPVflight time seems reasonable for the higher kv as well.
@kurtzFPV yea, I don't know what they do to achieve that. Quad66 had a video he called the motor "trash magic" 😆
Great review. I’m not a fan of the Runcam Nano 3. Though it might be lightweight I have some serious purple hue on both sides of the screen. This is with two different Runcams. Glad to see a new camera.
yea, the image of the runcam nano 3 isn't a favorite. I have a bias to lower weight and more whoop performance over image quality. I wonder if before I aged and my vision when down if I would have been different.
Amazing flying and review, Nick! 😃
Pretty nice little whoop indeed!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Indoor flying is not so good in Germany. We have signal Problems becurse our Building made of Stone and Concrete and not made of american Cardboard.
And I wondered why your buildings always fly away by light breezes
lol, your 100% stone and cement are a barrier for RF.
Hey, can I get detailed picture of the AIO top and bottom. Our local group ordered 10 to 13 and they all have motor noise lines in the video. Trying to figure out If there is a component change on the board that's causing the noise.
please send me an email. the comment section doesn't allow images.
Could you figure out if there is a component change or what causes the issue already? I have the same problem with white diagonal lines when the motors are running. Maybe a capacitor in the powerline of the cam could help or another camera.
@@matt_mega no resolution. Check and confirm motor 2 is the source of noise. We used a scope and could not find dirty control power. We think there might be a FET too close to the video signal area.
I thought I saw a new revision of the AIO with motor plugs. That may solve the issue.
@@ryannair8761 The question is why was the first batch not affected or why has no early reviewer detected and mentioned the issue. Did HM change anything from the first batch to the latest batch on the v1.0 superx aio or the cam? The v2.0 aio has gotten a layout change as you can see on their website. This may solve the issue but is no solution for the actual owners of the mob6 2024. Hopefully there will be an official statement and workaround how to get rid of the noise otherwise there will be a lot of unhappy customers. :-(
@@ryannair8761 Did you find out anything new about the noise issue? The lines getting weaker with lower voltage levels below 3.6v in my opinion. I guess it's caused by harmonics of the esc pwm signal from the front right motor. Twisting the camera wires doesn't help.
How well does the male a30 fit with bt2.0? Since it has a notch on the inside
Thank you for another great whoop review, but people are complaining more and more about diagonal white lines in the video. As it seems your model was not affected by this or you haven't highlighted it. For me it is quite annoying and thinking about returning my mob6 2024. Besides that the camera quality is very bad regarding light sensitivity, white balance and wobbling, especially outdoor. Compared to a C03 with almost the same weight, this cam is a nightmare and definetely not state of the art in 2024. Maybe you could do a video with a closer look at these problems. Would appreciate it very much. Thanks!
I can't say what people are experiencing is wide spread or not, or it could be they are flying in rough RF environments. With mine not showing these signs and the one person that has sent me DVR I can't confirm this is an issue or a perception issue. I recommend flying Raceband 8 as it has the least possible interference and I made a video on my video setup and that video is linked in the description.
Love the content and love the Stickerrrrs.
As always great video. Incredible flying skills.
Thank you
So crazy u just posted this. Last night like 12am i was shopping building 65mm pro lightweight 35mm props. Wanted more kV on motors..
Maybe i just do this 31mm one
The battery A30 have a wire lead so not an issue on kink
what heads found was his pins in the A30 got wobbly after crashing and likely banging on that bend. So far mine has been fine.
RIP the old Mob6 ELRS board 😂😭 Cioti called it.
Thanks nick for making this masterpiece
oh a masterpiece? Thank you.
Hey Nick! Have you had a chance to try out the Quad Gas flat cell batteries yet? They look the same as the webleed/tiny whoop ones…also, about how many cycles do your quality 1s batteries last before they start to sag out? I seem to only get about fifteen to twenty good runs out of them.
Oh interesting, I have not heard of Quad Gas. I will have to look up that brand. Unfortunately I can't give a number before the cells start to sag out....only a guess The 16 new batteries I show in the video have got to have at least 20 flights on each at this time. I didn't see or notice any performance degradation yet.
Just looked at the batteries. I see they come from wrecked. I will pickup some sets. Thanks for that tip. Interesting the label says 320mah.
Awesome video bro, does the flight controller have a bind button or do you have to use betaflight configurater to bind it to a radio?
no bind button. The is uart based elrs, we can use the wifi mode of the rx to enter our binding phrase or do the 3 usb plug in to enter binding mode.
I’ve only got 75mm’s and really love them and have been thinking I should grab a 65… Now I’m not so sure!
They can be useful if we want less overall thrust, performance and flight time. which can help especially inside with throttle management and control, or if we want to shoot smaller and smaller gaps. Otherwise I much prefer 75mm whoops.
Do you have pids for the mobula 7 just got one
The cli dump files with pids and filters is available at the happymodel website www.happymodel.cn/index.php/2024/02/24/mobula6-2024-1s-65mm-ultra-light-micro-fpv-whoop-bnf/
i’m most excited about the new 5in1 fc with those curves! It should fit in the 65pro frames
yes it should
Hey Nick, do you use acro mode when you fly indoors?
yes...I am actually pretty poor at angle or horizon mode.
Does it come in a DJI version ?
no
Got some question can I connect my Google’s fatshark scout and does it come with batteries
I think the fatshark scouts come in two versions. Hdzero and analog, this quad requires analog goggles. It does not come with batteries to my knowledge. Check the product pages package contents.
I have a question what has been the most expensive item in your house u have destroyed flying?
Oddly, a picture frame. I knocked into it and it fell off the wall breaking the glass. I go new glass for it....I think it was maybe $12. The pictures are on the wall with command strips. Not the most secure...they fall off on their own sometimes.
Tune seems a bit high and/or filters are too low because I see occasional switches. Overall, I’m happy to see something new to the market, especially this new AIO board. I hope it’s more reliable than the Diamond board but that’s almost guaranteed! 🤣
I have the two AIO super x. The "not a review" one and the production. I hope they continue to hold up.
Awesome review as always man. 👍👍👍
Tattu is also selling those cells, just to let ppl know, in case they don't find stock✌️ happy flyin
Yea and they are 5x cheaper
@@BreeZieDoesiT true, but I wasn't sure if that's based on my location.
This is a good overview, but there’s still information that the racing community would really like to see… like weight of the FC itself, VTX power output accuracy (25mW), gyro/receiver/VTX durability (also, new Betaflight target or existing one?)
I will keep these in mind as I word on seeing if I can come up with better pids. I know I won't be able to the measure the vtx output, I don't have the immersionrc meter, but other items seem doable.
No worries! I know myself and many others have been waiting for this, hoping for an improvement of current FC quality, but the things I’ve mentioned are the common concerns. Appreciate the content that you provide!
I want this one for sure.
Wow. It's a little ripper🔥👍🏼
cant wait! been waiting for it since i broke my uz65!
oh the ole uz65 that's a bit ago.
@@NickBurnsFPV they didnt have mobula in stock so i purchased the uz was still pretty great
@ElectricFpv remind me, is that one the metal whoop frame? Or maybe the metal frame one is the snapper65. Sheesh my memory doesn't dial back all that well 😅
@@NickBurnsFPV no it had a black frame and red props bassicaly same as mobula just had a problem with jaw washout. Oh and you broke a motor of it.
I feel like the build quality from eachine isnt the best because i broke mine pretty soon to😂
Do you find that the batts without pigtails are harder to plug into the quad?. Also have you done any mods to your zorro for longer batter life?
Thanks as always one of the only reviewers i trust
Other than the struggle to get the battery pushed in as I did in the video, no real pain point. Batteries with battery wires are more flexible for sure, but we have yet to see these flat cell 1s with a battery pigtail. Maybe one day.
@NickBurnsFPV a30 batts comes with them but not bt2.0
@@Euwanh85 true but I don't find those batteries to perform as well. I have been asking GNB to make or find these flat cells to offer under their brand. That would help whoopers globally be able to get high quality batteries.
Look like the frame have a bigger area for the fc than old frame, making more type of fc to be use.
That is likely an illusion, the new AIO has a curved in design.
Do we have a solid release date on these yet?
Not when they will arrive at fpv shops. Two weeks, but really we hear two weeks all the time.
Great video as always. Was wondering if you happen to know where I can purchase an AC adapter for my WhoopStor 3 chargers? Thanks
I don't specifially have one in mind. the DC connection is, DC(5.5*2.1mm) with input voltage range of 6v-26v. I would expect there to be a wide variety availble for various products.
Wow❤ can't wait to get my hands on one
Hopefully soon.
I would Put 2 Batterys in one charger when they have the exact smae Voltage I think
Great review as always Nick. Love the affiliate links reference 😂
My smile was related to the current ongoings, but I do from time to time like to remind anyone that doesn't like affiliates that a web search is a perfectly good solution.
Going hard on the “don’t touch the affiliate links if you don’t like affiliate links” 😂❤
yea, from time to time I try to remind everyone its not mandatory and I am not offended or reliant on affiliates. At work while I check comments
I’m just laughing with everything that’s been going on lately with a couple of channels that will not be named.
I know you have a full time job and don’t worry too much about the affiliate stuff.
Great review as always!
@NickBurnsFPV I don't I sometimes try to remember to go back to videos to try to use links.
@@Wildest_Wahoo Yes, it is nice to not have that stress, the channel funds stay in fpv. Either sponsoring events, donating to fpv software development, paying for giveaway shipping etc.....
@@divingfalconfpv4602 No worries. I appreciate the thought though.
Hey,
My analog FPV setup has decent range, but sometimes the video in my googles starts to randomly drift to the right and gets black/white sometimes. After a few seconds my Skyzone Sky04X beep once and the video signal is perfectly finde again.
This happens super randomly, completley independent on how far the drone is away from me... Also don´t think its a overheating issue...
Any tips on what to do? I need the video signal to be reliable, since i´ll use it for a fpv-job!
Likely the skyzone receiver needs a firmware update. I have had several who experienced the same, really we experience across many dual rx.
@@NickBurnsFPV alright, thank u so much! I´ve noticed, that the problem doesnt appear on my fpv screen, so its propably the googles! Just weird cause i didnt change anything in the googles for years:)
Im so tired of hearing about affiliate links this past week😂
Sorry. not trying to play into the drama. I probably laid it on a bit thicker than I normally do. I do, from time to time, try to remind everyone that web searches are good alternative to links. I often wonder if google has affiliates to every site on the internet. :)
Hm keeps stepping up their game.
your everywhere I look. Just early I heard Darren Allatt call out your name in his stream.
I really wanna see one of these with Hd Zero or at least a 75mm version
yes hdzero is coming. I have it and have been working on it. Probably two weeks yet though.
I was already wondering where your review was. Nothing better than comparing your indoor flights with different models 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Sorry. It takes me a bit to work through my flying.
Dose gnb27 batteries fit in a30 connector? All I have is gnb27 can anyone answer this plzz
No gnb27 does not fix the a30. a30 is compatible with BT2.0 and bt2.0 is compatible with a30.
Review of avian rc ikon 2.5
Its coming. The original props were found to be very fragile so a prop change is being made
how long can the vtx antenna be popped off without damaging it ?
that is a rough question. I have seen them last 2 minutes or more, but really it depends on the heat. I accidentally flew an AIO without the vtx antenna, I noticed the video wasn't as good, and when I finished the flight and brought it in I noticed the antenna was gone. It was fine after I replaced the antenna. So we were flying outside in the heat or worse sitting on the ground powered on without antenna I would hope it would last 2-4 minutes without damage, but not much more.
My camera died after 5 minutes of gentle crash free flight. I'm sorry but that's just not normal.
I'm so disappointed, I'm starting the return process. I can't justify putting parts into something that died in 5 minutes without crashing.
Flawless review Nick ! Great ripper!!!
Crossfire is possible ?
isn't Crossfire 900mhz & if so how would you fit such a huge antenna on this?
Its possible. We have 2 uarts available and spare 5v and gnd pads.
Switch new stuff into old frame?
We certainly can if that is the question. We do only need to use the current canopy
analog fpv! 🙌
100% I still fly analog primarily, probably because I fly inside alot and my favorite micro is 2s 2inch analog. We just can't get the same performance on micros with HD weight added.
@@NickBurnsFPVcouldn’t agree more! I just love analog and it’s so easy to assemble a micro with these 5 in 1 boards. Everyone pretends analog looks horrible while it’s actually really good because we now have such good cameras for analog.
@@doodgeslagenmug I often wonder if we have a group of fpv pilots that started during the invent of HD fpv. This leads to the thought of analog being so bad.
@@NickBurnsFPV I started fpv in 2022 with the Tinyhawk 3 of which i also watched a video of yours and back then i didn’t think analog looked that bad at all. And when i got it in real life, i was actually impressed how good it looked in the goggles for such a small quad in analog. Looking back on how these older analog cameras were (like on the tinyhawk s), yeah that looked bad. I can understand people who got into HD around the bad analog camera time never looked back. Too bad because micro’s are secretly the most fun :)
@@doodgeslagenmug ah I see. So can I ask what made you go with analog and the tinyhawk rather than something bigger and digital? Obviously I agree micro are so fun and don't draw attention, safer and if needed don't require RID.
What AIO are they using?
super x its a new AIO from HappyModel
@@NickBurnsFPV ahhh so it’s not the same SuperX as before. Wicked cool!!!
@@OCD_FPV That is my understanding as well. The HDzero version AIO will be the superX hd.
Man, you have a beautiful house.
Thank you. We are lucky enough to live in the midwest US where real-estate is pretty cheap and we have made many improvements over the years. Like life it's all a work in progress. Kitchen still needs a remodel from the 80s cabinets....or at least my wife wants to target that sometime.
What firmware version and analog module are you using on your hdzero goggles? I can’t get my analog to look anywhere close to this.
can't say at this moment....at work. Please email me at nickburnsrc@gmail.com and I can take a look. You might also want to check the video reception video linked in the video description.
I’m almost certain that BetFPV Lava and Tattuu are the exact same batteries. All made by the parent company of Tattuu.
I hope that isn't true of all betafpv battiers, as they have had some stinkers over the years.
@@NickBurnsFPV I think it’s specifically the new folded cell “Lava” batteries. I’m not 100% on this. Just something I saw on a Reddit post that listed the actual manufacturer of those cells and all the companies that sell them. To my knowledge, there’s only one manufacturer of those 300mah 75C folded cells.
@@calebthomasralph yes, I have been told by resellers there are only 3 lipo manufacturers, everything is just branded from those three manufacturers. The folded cells very likely only come from the 1 of the 3...I haven't asked that specific question.
I fly my 75mm and 85mm outside alot. I dont have 65mm yet. Figured i wouldnt that one
Dam your locked in ehh! 🔥🔥🕺🏻
lol I like flying inside. So nice and comfortable....gets a bit more exciting when my family is home and about. Soft targets everywhere.
Looks Like it has A LOT of Power for a 1s
28000kv will give us that top end prop speed. The low weight helps to get to top speed faster. All good things imho.
camera quality is great
The direct solder is a no-go for me, unless all motor brands go that way. Sticking with BetaFPV and NewBeeDrone boards for now.
Someone said use the karate tune
Is it ELRS??
yes
@@NickBurnsFPV what version? 2.X or 3.X?
@@SKI_FPV 3.3 is the version upgradeable over wifi
@@NickBurnsFPV Nice! when will release??
@@SKI_FPV the last word I have is the second weeks of March :(
Pop on some GF biblades on there and that flite time will soar!
that is an interesting thought to something to test as well.
Tattu has 5 packs. Same exact cells
I haven't used them recently but I have heard this as well.
@NickBurnsFPV good quality and available on Amazon. 2 day shipping is nice
Even tho I hate big companies
Been waiting for this ;)
I know sorry it has taken so long. There were delays....I think with the frame.
7 flys faster and longer??? So what makes 6 better????
I thought this one was coming with HDZero
There is another version with HDzero. It does make a non flight appearance in the video.
I don't whant I have the old good
I must be confused. I don't know what the hand means.
@@NickBurnsFPV The first Mobula6 is the best Bro !
Awesome review!!! We have put your video to your site - If you dont mind ;-)