Yeah, all those poor fellas that bought the "not a lock" lock expecting a low security product, only to receive something rated 9.5/10 on master lock's security scale.
It's probably pretty useful as a deterrent. For example on a garden shed, which might not contain anything of much value, but an intruder might see the lock and move onto an easier target. At the same time, if you or the kids need to get something from the shed, you don't have to search for a key each time.
@@jmlsa439 Yeah, also the thief would glance at your house, see what they could mistake as a master lock and decide that you aren't worth robbing. Great deterrent.
@@jmlsa439 i used a Broken lock that could be forced open by hand as a deterrent ... To protect my lunch inside my locker. Sometimes people overblow the situation as to when a lock IS needed
Well, you've gotta admire "not-a-lock's" marketing and packaging for it's honesty. Literally zero over-promising. How many products these days can you expect even that much?
@@MAXI2006O some new UA-cam feature to translate non-English comments to English. For some reason it says "LUL" is not English, and offers a translation to the word "asshole", cause I guess lul means asshole somewhere in the world.
I hear he bursts into rooms, because he is sure he heard LPL saying “nothing on one, got a click out of two” and “anyway, that’s all I have for you today”.
@@woodsytheowlscharedcorpse4761 Do you want your lock brand to be named in the same breath as masterlock? I didn't think so. Even a fake lock brand would want to be compared to masterlock.
Our high school lockers all had master combination locks integrated in them, some of us found that by turning the lock quickly to the left and then back to the right they would just open with no combination needed. This worked for around 1/3 of the lockers
This was because those pupils had not spun the dial when closing the door. When closing and locking a combination lock, you must spin the dial a few turns after closing the door, to scramble the combination wheels and actually locking the lock mechanism so the doors become locked. It worked for 1/3 of the lockers because those 1/3 of the pupils didn't scramble the lock. Closing the door without spinning dial, or just spinning it a little bit to the left, is "quicklocking" and its also used for safes, when you want the safe or door locked and closed for the causual observer, but someone that knows its not locked, can easily quickopen it again. One example is a document safe in a office. Its locked and scrambled on the night, but during the day, you just turn the dial a little bit to the left when locking the safe, without actually scrambling the combination. That means you can easily open the safe during the day with a simple dial twist, while for a causual observer, like a visitor that gets a few seconds of unobserved access to the safe, who just yanks on the handle, the safe appears locked. So now you have learnt something new: A combination lock always need to be scrambled to be secure. You can compare it to "locking" a 4-dial combination lock by just turning one of the dials 1 step. For a causual observer, it would appear locked, but for those that knows they only need to turn the top disk one step, the lock can be opened.
in my school it usually was by october, freshman year, every single freshman boy knew how to unlock a master lock combo lock by feel alone. literal childs play, no you tube needed.
Not sure the brand or make but my middle school's locker locks were junk, and so were its security measures. The locker numbering system was split into subsections, so if you forgot which letter yours was you could walk up to a locker with the same number as yours, none the wiser until it failed to open - just kidding. I tried MY COMBINATION on the wrong locker one afternoon and it opened (either a horrific oversight or just...watching a lot of LPL I begin to wonder if the lock was That Bad). To this day whoever could've accidentally done the reverse and seen my stuff is my prime suspect for stealing my phone, but because I have people never listen to or understand you disease, it never got looked into.
@@pseudotasuki that's where the "probably" comes in, for example carlsberg has been releasing adverts promoting how green they are being and saying "does this make our beer taste even better? Probably" and "best beer in the world? probably" to get around the finite statement and false claims issue without it coming across as butholish, and with this video as evidence and the word probably then that marketing would have a fair chance of standing up in court if masterlock took offence
@@TheAyanamiRei yep, I used to know someone that kept a padlock on their garden shed that was open but "in position" so that it looks from a distance like it's locked but you don't actually need to unlock it if you want to get in - this product looks like it has the exact same use case (but slightly better, since it's genuinely closed).
Thirty years ago, when I was living in a bad part of San Francisco, I bought a beater car with a non-functioning trunk lock. It basically functioned as a latch to keep the trunk shut. You could open it with a 1/4 twist of a screwdriver. I never left anything of any value inside overnight. Instead, I used it to store recyclable cans and glass. One day I noticed the cans were missing, but not the glass. The following week, I put a note in the trunk on top of the recyclables: please take the glass, too. Next day, both bags were gone. On one occasion I put an old blanket in the trunk. Another time, an old clock radio. It felt good knowing I was helping out some anonymous crack addict and it was saving me trips to the recyclers or Good Will. This continued for the next half year, until some asshole punched out the entire mechanism with a hammer and ruined it for everyone.
I have a Austin Healey Sprite, and the trunk doesn't lock at all. There's a handle that rotates 1/4 turn to latch or unlatch it. I try not to keep any valuable in there, and I don't take the car out much any way, but I do keep an assortment of car stuff back there like extra oil, a funnel, some tools, a couple of sweatshirts*, an emergency flashlight, etc. *It's important to always have a few jackets, because my Sprite is missing both the heater and the roof!
@@cymond I see your phone also doesn't like the word "car". I'm always telling everyone in headed to the cat. The trunk of the cat is open and other such nonsense.
@@righteousone1 where's the proof? He's clearly a very skilled lockpicker and has won actual competitions. I know he's met some with extreme difficulty but I've never seen him in any fake opening a lock. Nor do I believe he ever would. So please explain how he is a fraud.
@@righteousone1 > This is one of those edgy "I'm 14 and this is deep" comments where you think by pointing out that other methods are used by bypass a lock (magnets, for instance) it isn't "picking" so therefore it isn't "real," I suppose.
As a teen, who regularly found themselves or friends locked out of bags or lockers, I discovered a picking tool commonly available lying around on the road: 'brush' filaments left/broken off street sweepers. About 10cm long, highly rigid, with a 2-3mm width and thickness 1mm or less - the number of locks I could open just with this one single metal strip was fairly crazy. I see some of these locks you cover and think "I could open that with literal street trash" (definitely not all though), how do these companies think selling such flawed products is ok. Good thing I only ever used my power for good not evil lol
I really like the "Not a Lock," but it should involve a simple trick to open, beyond just pulling. Tugging on locks is one of the first things people do to test if they're properly secured.
I love seeing your comments on random videos cause it's been like 10 years since you've posted a video and it's good to know that you're still alive and well.
When making decisions based on a products rating always make sure that both numbers are using the same base number system. 10 could just as easily be decimal 10 as it could be decimal 2.
I love the idea that the engineers over at Master are traumatized and scared shitless of this guy. 10/10 content, highly recommended, would watch again.
@@Etsa I think you're referring to Master products there. Had that happen once, Master combo lock box. We knew the code, but the damn thing got jammed and we had to break our way into it. Thus failed at both functions of a lock, of preventing unauthorized access and providing authorized access.
@@saxxonpike Which, the Master or the "not a lock"? Come to think of it, I could see the "not a lock" being the first he's ever reviewed that he wouldn't be capable of picking. In fact the first he's incapable of opening by unintended means.
The Not a Lock has better security- someone could easily spend an hour trying to pick it without realizing the pins do nothing, assuming they never tried just yanking on it hard enough.
If the LPL wasn’t the one to find this product, I would have loved to see what would have happened if someone sent it to him blind with a letter challenging him to pick it open live on camera without investigating it first. He would have figured it out no doubt and definitely in short enough time for it to be an unedited video, but I’m curious what he would have discovered and how he would have reacted.
I'll rate the "Not A Lock" 10/10. It's no difference from a distance. Can you imagine the level of difficult it adds if the "Not A Core" is fixed in place but allow to wiggle back and forth just a little (but can never turn). Also they should feature the "Not A Pin" to bind randomly. I like to see the person's face trying to pick it.
Let’s take a minute to admire that LPL doesn’t drag his videos out to over 10 minutes for the monetisation to kick in and just does the video and finishes when it’s done. The ultimate mic drop :-)
@@chaosandearthquakes4078 some of his videos are only 2 minutes long. He could easily drag it out to a much longer video but once the lock is open the video is over. This is dedication :-)
The "Not a lock" doesn't want to ruin it's reputation like that. The whole idea of it is to look secure, look like something a casual thief shouldn't bother to try to open, and the Master logo would defeat that purpose.
There are quite a few similar locks pretty much identical in appearance. All major companies seem to make them. Then I did pick up a disk detainer lock in a dollar store that was more pick resistant secure than most MLs.
"Let's do it one more time so you can see it was not a fluke" can we take a moment to enjoy the fact he relocked the lock with the pick? Masterlock's next series won't even come with keys since they aren't even required anyway. 😂🤣
@@k1n2g4 that's not a re-lock. The core needs to be turned in order for it to be locked, which is exactly the part OP wanted us to appreciate. The pick was used to lock it between picking attempts.
I love how he opens the 10/10 lock with basically zero effort, there should never be a fluke of that magnitude in a security device, but just to show it isn't a fluke he does it again. Best call out ever.
Okay, we’ve established a seven on the Master Lock security scale is a lock that opens with a wave rake, and a ten requires a comb pick. I guess a four must be a lock that can be opened just by saying the words “this is the lock picking lawyer,” and a two is a lock that opens with nothing more than a concerned stare.
Master has 3 choices at this point. 1. Pay millions in R&D to improve their locks. 2. Pay those millions to LPL to never pick their locks. 3. Apologize to LPL for whatever they did to him. He is relentless.
It doesn’t even take millions. A spool, a few zero pins, and a side pin. It’s not difficult to make a reasonably pick resistant lock. Your only real goal in defending against picking is to take long enough for someone to notice what a bad guy is doing.
@@mcwheesus nah summoning salt would put out a well researched 50 min video starting with lock picking from medieval times or something and how it got progressively faster.
honestly there's a pretty big difference in terms of security, but I'd say they balance out. most people don't own a comb lockpick, nor any picking tools for that matter, never mind the product featured here that costs $90. The lock is more likely to be broken to gain entry if such is needed. then there's the not a lock. it provides the most important thing a padlock can do, the visual idea of security. people aren't going out in public and picking locks, if something appears locked then they'll usually move on to an easier target. the time spent testing if it's a real lock is time wasted looking super suspicious. ETA oops misread thought you were talkin about the 2 in the vid, not a similar masterlock
@@adm_ezri you can buy a comb pick for like $2 or make your own for less if you happen to have the tools and some scrap metal. Buying the LPL's $90 set is more of a convenience package for people who do this as a hobby and want a variety of tools in an easy to carry form.
@@Vincent_Beers Yeah, but people still have to know what the hell a comb pick is and how to use one. Remember, most locks are defeated by destructive methods, not picking.
I’m 58 my dad was an engineer he taught me the basics of lock picking when I was 9. A lot of what you do I had to figure out on my own made my picks and loved you woke up my interest a year or so ago. I cut open many locks and built a comb when I was 13 I just ordered your thinner combs and a companion set. Thank you You are very good
@@baylinkdashyt never trust a lock package again. 10/10 max security.... for sure. one problem, is now that I eye on every lock I see, and calculating if I could open it. :D
Funny thing is, the "Not a Lock" could easily fool someone into thinking it's an actual lock, and they could spend hours trying to pick/jiggle it and never get in, because the keyway doesn't work. Not many people think to give the shackle a tug for no reason at all. So in that regard, this NAL is actually a lot more secure than a Master lock.
@@Bri-bn5kt Regarding "give the shackle a tug", I remembered there was university theft, and the thief told the university security that you'll be surprised by the number of locks that just give-in when someone tug it hard enough, so he just tug each padlocks on the lockers one by one and steal things from whichever opens.
@@righteousone1 Are you questioning someone else's sexual kinks they are into? Bootlicking is a very legitimate practice. Also, is there a LockPickingLiar channel? I only know LockPickingLawyer.
Maybe, though I make a habit of giving every lock one good tug before trying to open it any other way. Sometimes people don't click them fully in place, sometimes the locks are old and have rusted guts that break easily, sometimes they are just cheaply made from bad metal that snaps. Step 2 is either a crow bar or mallet or both. When it comes to padlocks breaking them is often easier than picking them, unless it's a master lock, then you just rake them open.
@@Vincent_Beers It would be cool if something like this had a small spring-loaded pin to disengage the latch mechanism. Something that an opportunist wouldn’t notice immediately, but that would defeat the tugging “exploit”.
The "Not A Lock" is far more secure as it doesn't have the name "MASTER" stamped on the front. That means at least some people would be discouraged from trying to get into it non-destructively due to not feeling sufficiently competent to open it.
I’ve always heard that too. The benefit of the “Not A Lock”, is purely visual. Someone sees it, decides it must be locked, and passes it by without even trying. By the time someone is actually yanking on it to see if it will open, they are already trying to break in.
That saying has always irked me just a little for some reason. I think it's because an honest person wouldn't care if there was a lock on something or not, because they're honest and wouldn't steal regardless of how easy it was. If they did steal from something that wasn't locked, well they're not a very honest person to begin with, are they? A lock doesn't do anything more than make it a little harder for someone to give in to their temptations. I get what the sentiment is behind it, in that acting on temptation would require more effort in the process, but it's one of those sayings that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, like falling head over heels....if your head is over your heels, then you're still in an upright position.
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper ehhhhh I mean a lock is a very good indicator that somewhere is off limits, not just that you shouldn't steal from there. If you lock a door in a building/it looks locked youre going to keep out all the "honest" people who are going to know that's not the right way.
@@ellie8674 A sign that says 'private - no trespassing' does that too. The 'honest people' saying is nonsense. A lock is just another stage in making something more difficult to access. Not total (& that is important to remember), but not nothing either. Sometimes I've encountered locked doors that SHOULD have been open - last week the door to a stairwell was locked even though the escalator was out of action & it was the signposted way. In that case the lock just says 'somebody fucked up'
The "Not A Lock" device needs a hidden shackle release... I vote for either: A) press one of the Rivet Pins down to open N.A.L. device, or B) grasp and turn portion of lock body, which opens shackle.
@@DragonJohn I had a Master dial combination lock in high school, which I used to hammer my locker hinge pins down with, because it was handy.... Well, from then on, I could smack the lock up and against the door to instantly unlock it. Dial combo worked, but I could open it with a good swipe upwards 💪
Actually, the "not a lock" might take longer for an experienced picker to get into. They'd look at the M736 once and go ahead picking it knowing how easy it is. They'd probably have to look twice at the "not a lock" to figure out what exactly it is, thus taking longer.
I’ve had several locks that functioned exactly the same as “Not A Lock.” No pick required. Unfortunately, they were marketed as working locks, rather than as “Not A Lock.”
I picked two practice locks at a party where one of the guests brought them. The two pin lock was so loose that it opened when I was just feeling around for the pins. That was not a fluke. On the first try on the 3 pin lock, I felt the pins and had the right tension. It opened immediately. Unfortunately, that was a fluke. It took on the order of 10 minutes to get it open again. Then I moved onto other party activities.
@@jamest39 Well, whoever he is, he's a rather big failure. All yhese comments is a significant amount of effort.The roasted name of Master lock can't be saved. The ego of thr RIghteous fool can't either. The only big problem I have is figuring out if it's immense stupidity or some other mental issue at work because it's actions more common from someone with a single digit in their age.
The Not a Lock can be improved by adding a fake keyhole that looks exactly like a real one, and require pressing the shackle inwards before it can be pulled out.
@@Bri-bn5kt I think Bowley was a paid promotion, I looked up those videos and he never actually attempts to pick them, he just talks about them. Very strange for LPL videos. If he doesn't even attempt it and yet he's promoting it then logic should dictate that he can pick it, but doesn't want to do it on camera. I could be wrong, but I did actually go look those videos up to specifically see him fail picking them, and the takeaway was that he didn't even try or say he tried. Some locks do give him difficulty. If a lock requires "the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made" and more than a minute of his time, that lock is damn near good enough for anyone that isn't a government agent. LPL does these in his lab under excellent conditions. In the field it would take considerably longer, assuming the criminal had the specialty tool, knowledge, and experience to pull it off at all.
It'd be interesting if you did a teardown and look at the internals of some of these super shitty locks to show why it works. I really wonder what is going on with the pins inside the lock for this to even be possible
The comb pick is pushing both the driver pins and the key pins above the shear line to open the lock. Instead of matching the key pins with the shear line it just pushes everything out of the way to open the lock
This particular exploit happens because the chambers for the pins are too long. There is too much space inside the lock. So you can just push everything out of the way and rotate the cylinder.
I have an old Master Lock combination lock on the shed where I store my lawnmower and various yard tools. However, I don't bother to put it through both door shackles, or close the lock. I got tired of constantly locking and unlocking it, and we live in a really safe neighborhood. However, this way, it looks locked and will discourage any curious neighborhood kids. If anybody really, seriously wants to get in there, I'd rather let them steal my 30 year old mower than risk them damaging the shed doors!
People at master lock: oh thank God he's not doing one of our locks LPL: not let's compare this to something master gives a 10/10. People at master lock: sad noises
I'd argue the "not a lock" product has a pretty good security application: deterring opportunistic thefts, which are by far the most common. The next step up is breaking and entering thefts, which many times a real pad lock won't prevent if they use a crowbar or break a window.
You can't stop a smart theif. But you can make their job look time-consuming or difficult so they go rob the stupid person. For instance, I have a cable lock for my bike. It's very thick but I know someone can cut it with a bolt cutter. However, unless they're superman they'd have to lever the bolt cutter on the ground. So I'm always careful to wrap the cable so it can't touch the ground. A theif doesn't want to struggle. They want to hit and git before someone shows up.
@@cybervigilante you have seen the video where a guy breaks into a light pole, adds a plug into the cables, plugs in an anglegrinder to cut through a lock, packs up and then bikes away? In the middle of new york? NO ONE CARES about bikes except the owner. and the thief apparently.
"locks only keep honest people out" and when it comes to getting into something you don't necessarily attack the strongest point - like some fancy padlock, you maybe go after the chain it's on, or the hinges on a fence, or if it's on a shed maybe you just peel the aluminum siding off, and slip in through the hole like a big raccoon. security is mostly an illusion, unless it's protected by a deadly trap (illegal) or manned by someone who can do something, it's only a minor delay for someone determined.
@@andrewgreeb916 heh, thats one logistical hell for larger borders, try to put armed soldiers on the ENTIRE border between like Canada and the USA 24/7 all year and you simply cant, because its not cost efficient at all. Shorter borders who has a demilitarised zone like the one in Korea, it would work yea, but its litteraly the most militarised border of the world. Honestly, Armed people and guards can protect efficiently a property but when it comes to larger land mass, security is but a dream not even an illusion since criminals will find new ways to smuggle drugs and stuff.
See, there are levels of security for different levels of what you are gaurding. The goal is not to make it impossible to get at your things, but to make it take more effort than it is worth.
@@andrewgreeb916 This is why the excitement about Trump's border wall was so annoying to me. IF he actually got it built, the next president would simply remove the guards and let the Mexicans stack dirt against it until they had a nice wheelchair-accessible ramp.
Man I love LPL. He's a true master of his craft. Elite if a dare say. Short, sweet to the point and if he does stray from that you can bet it's entertaining, or at min holds your attention. Of all the yt teaching type of video creators LPL is at the top of the list IMHO. I'm regards to being an expert in his field and providing reciepts for his claims. Great job lpl you keep us on the 🪝! Have a great week!
The not-a-lock is perfectly suitable for scenarios where your only aim is to misdirect curiosity or persuade a low-effort criminal that the visibly unlocked door 30 feet away is probably less effort. Not-a-lock also has the interesting legal effect of turning what would be the crime of trespass into breaking and entering if you open it or bypass it, especially if you put it on a low gate that could otherwise be jumped over, because despite how easy it is to open, putting it on a gate probably meets the legal bar for visibly restricting public access, when an unlocked but closed gate would still allow for door-to-door salesmen, beggars or proseletisers to be within their theoretical grey zone of permission to reasonably come through the closed gate directly to the front door to knock to request access to the property until explicitly asked to leave. It might even have the effect, if put on a trashcan, of turning items from "discarded", and thus not protected from random warantless search, into "controlled access until destroyed", which might be legally protected, without actually hindering authorised trash collection services. I can also see that the not-a-lock wouldn't be incredibly difficult to transform from security by misdirection into something like a reusable tamper-evident seal with an audible alarm or internal counter that ticks over every time it's opened. Edit: This post is not legal advice. Laws might differ in different jurisdictions.
Nice analysis > I can also see that the not-a-lock wouldn't be incredibly difficult to transform from security by misdirection into something like a reusable tamper-evident seal with an audible alarm or internal counter that ticks over every time it's opened. I'm actually really against IoT proliferation, but this might be one of the best applications of IoT you could come up with. You could easily hide a chip and a button cell in there, and if someone tugs it open, it trips a switch and starts sending out a silent signal to you or your alarm company.
@@tippyc2 this would definitely work, but I was thinking about something even simpler: most of the trucks delivering items from distribution centres to stores don't actually have locks on them, they have essentially easy to break zip-ties with a unique number stamped into them, so if you have a broken or missing the seal or the incorrect number on the seal the recipient knows to reject the entire delivery or at least check and count every item instead of just accepting it as is. I was suggesting a spring activated mechanical incrementer with five dials visible through a piece of transparent plastic on the side of the not-a-lock, so that delivery trucks could reuse the lock, instead of throwing away hundreds of thousands of little pieces of numbered plastic every year. You only have to send the value on the incrementer when it leaves the warehouse to compare with the value on the incrementer when it arrives at the destination securely, exactly as they currently do with the tamper-evident plastic seals. There really is no need for any electronics or IOT stuff for it to work very well, especially if you already have an unmonitored camera setup focused on the area, which you only check when the numbers don't match up.
The not-a-lock could also be used if you have something that doesn't stay closed by itself that you want to stay closed but also want to make it easy to open.
The pathway between the road and your front door is public access regardless of the presence of a gate or lock. It's a legal precedent involving the postal service and isn't going to change. Postal law is bizarre. And once your trash is out on the curb it isn't yours anymore, locks or not. But if you put a fake lock on it, I can guarantee the trash truck will drive right on by.
@@blumoogle2901 It's not just for the receiver, but it's for the driver too. To protect them from getting spanked at a weigh station or other such shenanigans.
I was in a hardware store one day and overheard a customer asking a service person about Master Locks. Customer was told not to use them for the higher security use they were asking about. When asked why, I casually picked up one of the locks, slipped a straightened paperclip up the keyway, and popped the lock open. Looked them both in the eyes, and said, “Because they are not locks.” I didn’t expect it to work, as it was a new lock, and thought they would have fixed that bypass issue.
@@Ayrshore Regretfully no. I was as shocked as the worker and customer at the time. I didn't think to try it again. It was one of their cheaper and older locks, so that was to my advantage.
@@Liggliluff Yeah definitely never happened. Dude wants us to believe he had a paperclip handy for no reason that he also didn't mind destroying so he could have a chance at a bypass against a masterlock (BTW I own paperclips and have a few dozen masterlocks and my paperclips do not fit into my masterlock keyways...), and he risked this bypass despite claiming he "didn't think it would work," _after_ making his grand announcement of "BECAUSE THEY AREN'T LOCKS?" He would've looked like the biggest dumbass imaginable if he made that grandiose statement and then couldn't pop the bypass. Also, I'm an offensive security professional (networks, binary reversing, physical pentests, you name it) and I haven't done physical security shit in the better part of 2 years due to covid. My lockpicking skills have faltered a bit, but my intimate knowledge of random one-off bypasses depending on the makes & models has PLUMMETED. If this guy knew of lock bypasses to this degree, he'd know the exact make/model that would be vulnerable. Plus, his story doesn't add up. His first post says "as it was a new lock" and his second post says "It was one of the cheaper and older locks." Which was it? The whole thing reeks of twitter/FB bragging. "I looked them both in the eyes" yeah, I bet.
The more I watch LPL, the more I think that, when he was young - MasterLock had done some great injustice to him - like someone stole his only bike - locked by MasterLock product, or LPL applied to a position at MasterLock, and got denied. Since then LPL's live went sideways... LPL swore to get his revenge on MasterLock!)))))
worked for a company where we had those masterlocks on construction site storage trailers and would secure things like nuclear density gages and other testing equipment inside, and the hardest part of opening the lock was getting the core to turn even when the right key was inserted, that and actually getting to the key slot
I wish I had "not a lock" when I went to school. We had lockers for book, and school supplies, and we had to provide our own locks. I quite often forgot my padlock key. Funny side note, this is when we learned that same batches of locks opens by any key in that batch. We had four Abus locks that were keyed the same, to make it even funnier the of the locks were side by side, so the owners had to pay attention to open their own locker. This went on for 2 years. I still have my "Tri-circle NO 266" padlock 30 years later, "securing" my storage space.
@@quillmaurer6563 well there are only so many combinations a key can be made in. If you are making millions of locks you are bound to have some that will have the same key. They just needed to be better at distributing those locks so it is less likely that a batch gets shipped to the same location.
Imagine being the guy who runs the store where LPL gets all these locks. Where he just drops a bunch of random locks on the counter and buys every single one of them just to show how bad they really are. I can even imagine the cashier being like “oh boy when is this video going up”
@@righteousone1 Let me let you in on a secret: Magicians actually can't do magic. It's all a show. Now you're blown away, right? Also, santa's not real.
@@righteousone1 it would take more effort to "fake" these videos than do them "for real". Do you think he manufactures spoof locks or uses editing tricks? The notion is already ridiculous since the locks perform exactly the same when *you* or *I* use them, meaning you can pick them yourself using the exact methods you see in the videos.
I'd like to see a different sort of "Not a lock" Where there's actually some other trick to unlocking it too. Though at the same time, many of those locks that are shaped like it can already be opened easily with a soda can and scissors.
@@righteousone1 when you defeat yourself by repeatedly commenting, increasing post engagement, increasing reputation scores, driving up visibility and revenue.. go ahead, keep it up. He's going to appreciate the money you're making him.
You've totally got me into this world... and this is coming from someone who's never had any reason or inspiration to do so, beyond your videos and the general idea that being able to pick a lock is cool anyway. I now own a nice comprehensive set of picks... I've picked many low to medium locks... I'm the guy that gets called at work when a drawer or cabinet has a misplaced key... and heck, I'm now even re-keying / re-pinning locks of various brands to work with one another's keys. You've ignited this interest in me 100% my friend, all you... and I appreciate it. It's a pretty neat talent to have, and one that not a lot of others seem to possess.
Imagine spending an hour trying to pick the not a lock, and finally after being frustrated for an hour just give it a big pull out of anger and it pops open 🤣.
How many locks do you think are defeated by picking? Spoiler: practically zero. Thieves don't waste time on something that may or may not work and requires specialized, identifiable tools. They simply break whatever the lock is attached to with $5 prybar, because 9/10 times, its substantially weaker than the crappiest lock. And anyone who is going to pick a lock, is 9/10 times going to defeat whatever you have. I guarantee the lowly Master has stopped more thefts, than all of the 'good' locks combined. Security is practices, not products.
@@springbloom5940 i see your point, but in the case of the m736 this flaw is inexcusable for a 50€ lock. I don't see why anyone aware of this flaw would buy the m736 instead of a crappy 2€ lock that provides as much picking resistance. And I disagree on your last statement: having a bad security device and being aware of its flaw is not a good security practice. Locks are products.
@@springbloom5940 Sure. If somone is going to break into something with a lock on it they are just going to cut the lock off almost every single time. There is also something to be said for company that specifically markets something as being pick resistant, when it is one of the easiest products on the market to pick. The exact wording on their site is "5-pin cylinder for maximum pick resistance". You can say that picking is irrelevant, and I have to agree, but masterlock is the one that chose to advertise their product in that manor.
@@springbloom5940 You don't have it quite right. Thieves will use whatever method is easiest whose effort is commensurate with the item to be stolen. AKA, if it's too hard compared to the possible reward, they won't bother. Thus, using a thick chain to lock up a bicycle is good security, because cutting through the chain requires a specialized tool and some time. The risk of getting caught is usually greater than the value of the bike. However, if you use a master lock to secure the ends of the chain, you could have gotten the same security with some twine and a double-knot. This is why the choice of lock does matter. You don't want it to be an obviously-weak link.
You are really something else! It appears that you know what to do, how to do it, where to do it, when to do it and why you are doing it. Your knowledge and activities are invaluable! I’m so glad we got you on our side! Keep up the good work. I truly mean it. Thanks!
Brilliant. Similarly; a friend of mine used to 'lock' his bike up against some railings (in a very populated place in the middle of a city) just by wrapping the chain around it as you would if you were going to use a padlock as well, except that he never did. To the casual onlooker, it looked like a locked bike. It never got nicked.
Something I’ve been wondering lately is how different tools contribute to overall security. For example, a kid could learn how to get that Master Lock open pretty easily, but would they have the right tool for the job? LPL has probably used more than 100 different tools on this channel, and if I’m not mistaken he even helps to design new ones, so… At what point is the tool required for the type of opening we’re talking about too specific or obscure? Does engineering a custom tool to make opening easier mean it wasn’t easy, and/or would the obscurity of the tool make opening it the other way easier for most people?
This episode reminds me of a security inspection I conducted on a US Army missile base in Germany as an MP in the early 80's. Vehicle security consisted of a length of heavy chain welded to the vehicle floor, then looped around the steering wheel and fixed with a brass lock. The key box was empty but for two hooks. I went down range and found every lock was cut in such a way that the hasp would simply spin around and free the chain. Every lock! I never could understand why they kept those two pairs of keys...
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There is a very big difference: with one of those products the owner knows the true level of security.
Yeah, you always know the true level of security with a Masterlock ;)
Yeah, all those poor fellas that bought the "not a lock" lock expecting a low security product, only to receive something rated 9.5/10 on master lock's security scale.
@@righteousone1 got the name right at least
@@righteousone1 Are you saying he doesn't pick the locks he shows on his channel?
Stop! They are already dead
I like how the "Not A Lock" looks like a MasterLock, someone on the design team knew what was up.
That might be a bad idea, given how effective master locks are. A knowledgeable crook wouldn't be put off at all...
@@alanjm1234 whats funny is that a dumb crook would spend time trying to pick the Not-a-Lock
It's probably pretty useful as a deterrent. For example on a garden shed, which might not contain anything of much value, but an intruder might see the lock and move onto an easier target. At the same time, if you or the kids need to get something from the shed, you don't have to search for a key each time.
@@jmlsa439 Yeah, also the thief would glance at your house, see what they could mistake as a master lock and decide that you aren't worth robbing. Great deterrent.
@@jmlsa439 i used a Broken lock that could be forced open by hand as a deterrent
... To protect my lunch inside my locker. Sometimes people overblow the situation as to when a lock IS needed
Well, you've gotta admire "not-a-lock's" marketing and packaging for it's honesty. Literally zero over-promising. How many products these days can you expect even that much?
Clearly not MasterLock.
Dear Not a Lock,
It's stuck, now what?
🤣
Is it a movie prop?
@@Kevin-hb7yq it becomes a bar
Over-delivered if anything, it looks robust at a distance, and will likely serve a long time.
A master key is a key that can open any lock. Does that mean a master lock is a lock that can be opened with any key?
I think youre onto something here.
Lul
@@MAXI2006O apparently in English that means asshole
@@dartdeity7919 what?
@@MAXI2006O some new UA-cam feature to translate non-English comments to English. For some reason it says "LUL" is not English, and offers a translation to the word "asshole", cause I guess lul means asshole somewhere in the world.
**LPL receives a cool not-a-lock concept**
**Mentions it briefly then proceeds to beat the crap out of MasterLock once again**
As it should be!!!!
Bet he spent a whole solid 20 minuted figuring out how a lock is not a lock. Just staring a the package.
@@TheAndre8900 Schrodinger Lock?
@@BoHolbo dang I didn’t realize lpl had haters. Or am I missing the sarcasm?
@@jessepetty8636 Naah..
I am on the "Master Lock" has no business calling their products 'locks,' team. I hate those lock shaped lumps of metal!
Nobody: "I bet that was a fluke."
LPL: "I'll do it again."
LPL : "Want me to break in that house?... Want to see me do it again?"
"Bop bop."
Im sure he does it for himself to be calm
called me?
Anybody Else: for not being a lock this surely is impossible to open?!?!
I heard that the CEO of MasterLock asks his parents to check the closet for LPL at night before bed.
I hear he bursts into rooms, because he is sure he heard LPL saying “nothing on one, got a click out of two” and “anyway, that’s all I have for you today”.
Shut up
Parents no. His children, yes.
That would require Master to actually care.
He tried to close everything with locks but he used his own company’s products so it was to no avail
"There are serious security devices that can be opened just as quickly"
*LPL dumps like 60 Masterlocks on the table*
Yeah he did something similar to this in another video
@@VillagerManDude Which number?
@@icewater6841 video 1197
@@icewater6841 I'd say referred video is 1423.
The sort of locks Houdini was probably using
Not-A-Lock’s new packaging: Rated by LPL as highly as MasterLock’s 10/10
I suppose you could use the non lock for pranking someone.
Why would they willingly give themselves such bad publicity? Not-A-Lock I mean, not Master-Not-A-Lock.
@@highpath4776 I am seriously considering these for some doors at work just because I can't ever get someone with keys to show up and do their job.
@@rendomstranger8698 how is that bad publicity?
@@woodsytheowlscharedcorpse4761 Do you want your lock brand to be named in the same breath as masterlock? I didn't think so. Even a fake lock brand would want to be compared to masterlock.
Of course, the first thing LPL does with his voice back is to roast Masterlock.
He's legally required at this point to roast them.
Seems like a good way forward to me...
He had to make sure we knew it was him....
When will it be revealed that Masterlock killed LPL's parents?
@@arendellecitizen208 in about 1 year.
Our high school lockers all had master combination locks integrated in them, some of us found that by turning the lock quickly to the left and then back to the right they would just open with no combination needed. This worked for around 1/3 of the lockers
This was because those pupils had not spun the dial when closing the door. When closing and locking a combination lock, you must spin the dial a few turns after closing the door, to scramble the combination wheels and actually locking the lock mechanism so the doors become locked.
It worked for 1/3 of the lockers because those 1/3 of the pupils didn't scramble the lock.
Closing the door without spinning dial, or just spinning it a little bit to the left, is "quicklocking" and its also used for safes, when you want the safe or door locked and closed for the causual observer, but someone that knows its not locked, can easily quickopen it again.
One example is a document safe in a office. Its locked and scrambled on the night, but during the day, you just turn the dial a little bit to the left when locking the safe, without actually scrambling the combination.
That means you can easily open the safe during the day with a simple dial twist, while for a causual observer, like a visitor that gets a few seconds of unobserved access to the safe, who just yanks on the handle, the safe appears locked.
So now you have learnt something new: A combination lock always need to be scrambled to be secure.
You can compare it to "locking" a 4-dial combination lock by just turning one of the dials 1 step.
For a causual observer, it would appear locked, but for those that knows they only need to turn the top disk one step, the lock can be opened.
@@sebastiannielsen that makes a lot of sense! Thanks for the knowledge bomb!
in my school it usually was by october, freshman year, every single freshman boy knew how to unlock a master lock combo lock by feel alone. literal childs play, no you tube needed.
Not sure the brand or make but my middle school's locker locks were junk, and so were its security measures. The locker numbering system was split into subsections, so if you forgot which letter yours was you could walk up to a locker with the same number as yours, none the wiser until it failed to open - just kidding. I tried MY COMBINATION on the wrong locker one afternoon and it opened (either a horrific oversight or just...watching a lot of LPL I begin to wonder if the lock was That Bad). To this day whoever could've accidentally done the reverse and seen my stuff is my prime suspect for stealing my phone, but because I have people never listen to or understand you disease, it never got looked into.
"Probably just as secure as a level 10 masterlock" now that needs to be on the packaging
To be fair, it isn't as secure. But only because the Masterlock requires a rake.
Edit: Or maybe a stiff breeze.
@@pseudotasuki that's where the "probably" comes in, for example carlsberg has been releasing adverts promoting how green they are being and saying "does this make our beer taste even better? Probably" and "best beer in the world? probably" to get around the finite statement and false claims issue without it coming across as butholish, and with this video as evidence and the word probably then that marketing would have a fair chance of standing up in court if masterlock took offence
@@pseudotasuki So, could "Not A Lock" give their product a 9 out of 10? Seems about right.
@@pseudotasuki Well… the “Not A Lock” requires you to pull it open
@@ernieblanchard8879 Haha, true!
I think this may be the harshest burn yet for Master Lock, and there have been some good ones in the recent past.
I actually laughed out loud when the put up the masterlock into the view, preparing for a harsh burn.
💯
Savage burn AND promotion of the Covert Companion.
I felt the same way. This was rough.
The B.U.R.N. is real.
I feel like "Not a lock" is something that might be used more as a prop, like in a movie where you "break" open a lock.
Someone else said it's good security theater for thrives who would see it from a distance. Like on a shed.
@@TheAyanamiRei yep, I used to know someone that kept a padlock on their garden shed that was open but "in position" so that it looks from a distance like it's locked but you don't actually need to unlock it if you want to get in - this product looks like it has the exact same use case (but slightly better, since it's genuinely closed).
Probably stops vendors coming to your door
Yeah, this is the definition of something designed to keep honest men honest.
Might also keep a raccoon out of a garbage hutch :)
Thirty years ago, when I was living in a bad part of San Francisco, I bought a beater car with a non-functioning trunk lock. It basically functioned as a latch to keep the trunk shut. You could open it with a 1/4 twist of a screwdriver. I never left anything of any value inside overnight. Instead, I used it to store recyclable cans and glass. One day I noticed the cans were missing, but not the glass. The following week, I put a note in the trunk on top of the recyclables: please take the glass, too. Next day, both bags were gone. On one occasion I put an old blanket in the trunk. Another time, an old clock radio. It felt good knowing I was helping out some anonymous crack addict and it was saving me trips to the recyclers or Good Will.
This continued for the next half year, until some asshole punched out the entire mechanism with a hammer and ruined it for everyone.
That was probably Mrs. LPL before Mr. LPL (tried to) reform her. ;-)
I have a Austin Healey Sprite, and the trunk doesn't lock at all. There's a handle that rotates 1/4 turn to latch or unlatch it.
I try not to keep any valuable in there, and I don't take the car out much any way, but I do keep an assortment of car stuff back there like extra oil, a funnel, some tools, a couple of sweatshirts*, an emergency flashlight, etc.
*It's important to always have a few jackets, because my Sprite is missing both the heater and the roof!
@@cymond I see your phone also doesn't like the word "car".
I'm always telling everyone in headed to the cat. The trunk of the cat is open and other such nonsense.
@@Kfaircloth13457 always make sure to have extra cat oil and funnels if you own a cat
LOL, today every part of San Francisco is a bad part of San Francisco.
This man had a harder time opening his sinuses up than any lock he ever picked.
@@righteousone1 what
@@righteousone1 300 comments on the channel all spouting this bs? Pretty impressive hateboner you got there
@@righteousone1 Pick, rake, open with a stalk of celery...point is, he gets them open.
@@righteousone1 where's the proof? He's clearly a very skilled lockpicker and has won actual competitions. I know he's met some with extreme difficulty but I've never seen him in any fake opening a lock. Nor do I believe he ever would. So please explain how he is a fraud.
@@righteousone1 > This is one of those edgy "I'm 14 and this is deep" comments where you think by pointing out that other methods are used by bypass a lock (magnets, for instance) it isn't "picking" so therefore it isn't "real," I suppose.
As a teen, who regularly found themselves or friends locked out of bags or lockers, I discovered a picking tool commonly available lying around on the road: 'brush' filaments left/broken off street sweepers. About 10cm long, highly rigid, with a 2-3mm width and thickness 1mm or less - the number of locks I could open just with this one single metal strip was fairly crazy. I see some of these locks you cover and think "I could open that with literal street trash" (definitely not all though), how do these companies think selling such flawed products is ok.
Good thing I only ever used my power for good not evil lol
The main purpose is to keep the casuals in check. Not to mention have something easy to open for locksmith if worse comes to worse
They are still making enough profit to not care.
I really like the "Not a Lock," but it should involve a simple trick to open, beyond just pulling. Tugging on locks is one of the first things people do to test if they're properly secured.
I love seeing your comments on random videos cause it's been like 10 years since you've posted a video and it's good to know that you're still alive and well.
I assumed the Not a Lock was mostly for gates/doors with no latch that would not stay closed without a padlock, not to actually try and fool people.
But its not a lock tho
It looks like something you'd buy for decoration or amateur filming.
Good thing it isn't a lock and is expressly labeled as not a lock.
Master Lock: Did it open when you sneezed on it?
Tester: No. Why would...
Master Lock: 10/10
Heheheh. 😆 Thanks
Tester: "We didn't even do the rake test yet-"
ML: _"I said 10/10"_
When making decisions based on a products rating always make sure that both numbers are using the same base number system. 10 could just as easily be decimal 10 as it could be decimal 2.
I love the idea that the engineers over at Master are traumatized and scared shitless of this guy. 10/10 content, highly recommended, would watch again.
The "Not A Lock" is clearly the most honest security product I ever saw.
I'd laugh if the not a lock could get jammed and be unpickable.
@@Etsa I think you're referring to Master products there. Had that happen once, Master combo lock box. We knew the code, but the damn thing got jammed and we had to break our way into it. Thus failed at both functions of a lock, of preventing unauthorized access and providing authorized access.
They were even humble enough about it to leave off "unpickable". Good on them.
@@saxxonpike Which, the Master or the "not a lock"? Come to think of it, I could see the "not a lock" being the first he's ever reviewed that he wouldn't be capable of picking. In fact the first he's incapable of opening by unintended means.
@@Etsa Jammed locks can be sprayed with lube through the shackle hole and/or keyway and it will become unjammed.
Master Lock: "We have reviewed ourselves, and given ourselves a perfect score"
Yeah ok
police be like
@@egghound_flopper xD
"This is my math homework, no need to check it yourself, I've reviewed it and will rate it a 10/10."
That's how the CDC - or any government agency works!
It's the Obama giving Obama a medal meme
In a twist of events, "Not a lock" is actually a MasterLock rated 1/10 security, but marketed with a different name.
Nah, 1/10 is a polite letter asking you not to steal anything. That's more like a 4/10 xD
LPL "there are serious security devices that can be opened almost as quickly"
Masterlock "Oh god no, please not us, please not us!"
I wonder if they're masochists
@@lisahenry20 😆 They're just kinky for LPL's skills!
"Ooh, unlock us again LPL!"
@@johnfran3218 any evidence for that?
"no us *again*"
@@johnfran3218 You ok john? this is a lock picking channel, not theology or prophecy ok?
The Not a Lock has better security- someone could easily spend an hour trying to pick it without realizing the pins do nothing, assuming they never tried just yanking on it hard enough.
Lol that would be hilarious
Imagine how dumb you'd feel? Lol
I think tensioning requires pulling the shackle
If the LPL wasn’t the one to find this product, I would have loved to see what would have happened if someone sent it to him blind with a letter challenging him to pick it open live on camera without investigating it first. He would have figured it out no doubt and definitely in short enough time for it to be an unedited video, but I’m curious what he would have discovered and how he would have reacted.
@@Archimedes.5000 that's on a combination lock, pulling on the shakel to decode.
Love the little "it's a latch!" on the packaging.
Should be MasterLock's new slogan.
_MASTER are the best quality ...._
MasterLatch
Nobody asks why a lawyer has such knowledge of criminal activity
@Repent to Jesus Christ Repent to Jesus Christ any evidence of that?
No, it should be: _it's a fluke, it's always a fluke._
I imagine thieves and other bad guys are overjoyed when they see “Master” engraved on a lock.
I'll rate the "Not A Lock" 10/10. It's no difference from a distance. Can you imagine the level of difficult it adds if the "Not A Core" is fixed in place but allow to wiggle back and forth just a little (but can never turn). Also they should feature the "Not A Pin" to bind randomly. I like to see the person's face trying to pick it.
Would take someone more time to try and pick the not a lock vs master lock before they realize what it is. I'll have to get one as a prank now.
Hell yeah
That's mean. I like it.
Just need a harder method to open it now than a tug
After your mention of "literally" teaching a child, I was secretly hoping to see LPL Jr. enter the scene.
Why secretly?
It's "Not A Secret"
@@Locutus Lenny: it's a secret
Carl: shuuuuut up!!!
It's as much of a secret as master locks are locks
I also expected that; like an inserted clip of a successful attempt of LPL Jr.
Letting Master Lock rate its own locks is like letting Yugo do a review of its own car for Car and Driver
Everyone born after 1989 has no idea what you mean.
Underrated comment of the year
Born in 1992, can confirm I have no idea what that means.
Hey,I owned one. Great car! How about next time you try using Dodge?
obamites don't know whats flying, doesn't matter what birth year is
Let’s take a minute to admire that LPL doesn’t drag his videos out to over 10 minutes for the monetisation to kick in and just does the video and finishes when it’s done. The ultimate mic drop :-)
Monetisation kicks in at 30 seconds of viewing, or the moment when someone interacts with the video, which ever comes first.
Getting to 10 minutes just lets you put a mid-roll add in the video
@@chaosandearthquakes4078 some of his videos are only 2 minutes long. He could easily drag it out to a much longer video but once the lock is open the video is over. This is dedication :-)
He's a lawyer, he does not need the money.
Besides, his videos are now ads for covert Instruments and he's making money there
@@fauxque5057 To which he doesn't really shove down our throats about it, just a quick mention generally and we've moved on.
It's telling that the "Not a Lock" looks pretty much exactly like a MasterLock.
It's "visual security". Looking like a lock will keep as many people out as a regular master lock.
@@benjaminalexander1998 Thats the whole point of the comment....Because master lock is such shit for security they might as well started not a lock.
Plot twist: not a lock is master locks new “home brand” where they can use the same mechanism but actually advertise it as a low security lock.
LOL, @@greatleader4841, YOU should be the one with Ben's likes, haha!
ironically... masterlock is also not a lock...
The visible presence of a lock is usually the best deterrent. It's a numbers/time game for thieves.
It's hilarious how "Not a Lock" actually looks like a Master Lock, just without the brand name etched on it lol
Truth in advertising.
It would be less secure if it had it
The "Not a lock" doesn't want to ruin it's reputation like that. The whole idea of it is to look secure, look like something a casual thief shouldn't bother to try to open, and the Master logo would defeat that purpose.
There are quite a few similar locks pretty much identical in appearance. All major companies seem to make them.
Then I did pick up a disk detainer lock in a dollar store that was more pick resistant secure than most MLs.
I'm thinking they should brand it as "Moster".
"Let's do it one more time so you can see it was not a fluke" can we take a moment to enjoy the fact he relocked the lock with the pick? Masterlock's next series won't even come with keys since they aren't even required anyway. 😂🤣
And he just used half of the comb. He locked it back with just the tip.
Not to forget that it locks itself at the 1.34min mark when he puts the lock back on the table.. 🤔
@@k1n2g4 that's not a re-lock. The core needs to be turned in order for it to be locked, which is exactly the part OP wanted us to appreciate. The pick was used to lock it between picking attempts.
Yes but once the tumbler turns, there is no need to reset the reset the pins to lock it again.
Unless the lock locks open there's no need to do anything other than rotate the barrel to lock it. You could do it with your nail.
I love how he opens the 10/10 lock with basically zero effort, there should never be a fluke of that magnitude in a security device, but just to show it isn't a fluke he does it again. Best call out ever.
Not A Lock: _offers "Security without being locked out"_
MasterLock: "Write that down! *Write that DOWN!* "
Underrated comment!
You got it backwards
Not a lock was inspired by masterlock
Master Lock: "Get locked out without any security"
@@ripleylivesay3051: Already, with over 400 likes at this point? Ya serious?
Okay, we’ve established a seven on the Master Lock security scale is a lock that opens with a wave rake, and a ten requires a comb pick.
I guess a four must be a lock that can be opened just by saying the words “this is the lock picking lawyer,” and a two is a lock that opens with nothing more than a concerned stare.
What's A one?
@@missycollingsworth5638 the one that not even closes
@@missycollingsworth5638 Just a sticky note that says “Locked”
"a lock that can be opened just by saying the words “this is the lock picking lawyer,” " just hilarious!
Best comment
Masterlock: **exist**
LPL: _"Let me tell you why your existence is a lie."_
Master has 3 choices at this point. 1. Pay millions in R&D to improve their locks. 2. Pay those millions to LPL to never pick their locks. 3. Apologize to LPL for whatever they did to him. He is relentless.
Somehow he seems to take their continuing to sell utter garbage personally.
I think he takes personal insult to the brand name. Like seriously "Master Lock" you don't get much more pretentious than that
It doesn’t even take millions. A spool, a few zero pins, and a side pin. It’s not difficult to make a reasonably pick resistant lock. Your only real goal in defending against picking is to take long enough for someone to notice what a bad guy is doing.
To LPL, #1 and #3 are the exact same thing, lol
option 4: do nothing and just let the cash flow, the average joe doesnt watch LPL or know much about locks
God damn, exposition, comparison, picking, and a roast in under 2 minutes. LPL speedruning
Give it some time, Karl Jobst will put out a video about it eventually. You absolute legends.
@@mcwheesus nah summoning salt would put out a well researched 50 min video starting with lock picking from medieval times or something and how it got progressively faster.
Imagine you're the company watching this video seeing your best lock be compared to a joke lock lmao
Strangely, I didn't expect the Not-A-Lock to be literally not a lock at all.
I though it wa last going to be one of those love locks
But good enough to deter someone passing by looking for opportunities. "Nope, it's locked"
@@dougcox835
Yes, that _is_ the design intent.
Such truth in advertising is a rarity it's almost suspicious to see it.
Hey friend, is that an alicorn in your pic? :3
The difference is very significant: you spend 10€ on the "not a lock" and 50€ on the master lock m736, that's quite a difference
honestly there's a pretty big difference in terms of security, but I'd say they balance out. most people don't own a comb lockpick, nor any picking tools for that matter, never mind the product featured here that costs $90. The lock is more likely to be broken to gain entry if such is needed.
then there's the not a lock. it provides the most important thing a padlock can do, the visual idea of security. people aren't going out in public and picking locks, if something appears locked then they'll usually move on to an easier target. the time spent testing if it's a real lock is time wasted looking super suspicious.
ETA oops misread thought you were talkin about the 2 in the vid, not a similar masterlock
@@adm_ezri you can buy a comb pick for like $2 or make your own for less if you happen to have the tools and some scrap metal. Buying the LPL's $90 set is more of a convenience package for people who do this as a hobby and want a variety of tools in an easy to carry form.
One is a better paper weight tho. More surface area.
I think we found the OEM manufacturer for Masterlock stuff, and they sell their products themselves for 1/5 the price!
@@Vincent_Beers Yeah, but people still have to know what the hell a comb pick is and how to use one. Remember, most locks are defeated by destructive methods, not picking.
I’m 58 my dad was an engineer he taught me the basics of lock picking when I was 9. A lot of what you do I had to figure out on my own made my picks and loved you woke up my interest a year or so ago. I cut open many locks and built a comb when I was 13 I just ordered your thinner combs and a companion set. Thank you
You are very good
Honestly just comical watching you pick these “locks”. I love the content, thank you for the laughs and re-evaluation of my lock choices.
His work here is done.
@@baylinkdashyt never trust a lock package again.
10/10 max security....
for sure.
one problem, is now that I eye on every lock I see, and calculating if I could open it. :D
The thing that made me laugh even more was your profile picture
“Not a lock” yep, that’s pretty much masterlock.
buuuuuuuuurn
Funny thing is, the "Not a Lock" could easily fool someone into thinking it's an actual lock, and they could spend hours trying to pick/jiggle it and never get in, because the keyway doesn't work. Not many people think to give the shackle a tug for no reason at all. So in that regard, this NAL is actually a lot more secure than a Master lock.
@@Bri-bn5kt Regarding "give the shackle a tug", I remembered there was university theft, and the thief told the university security that you'll be surprised by the number of locks that just give-in when someone tug it hard enough, so he just tug each padlocks on the lockers one by one and steal things from whichever opens.
@@righteousone1 Are you questioning someone else's sexual kinks they are into? Bootlicking is a very legitimate practice.
Also, is there a LockPickingLiar channel? I only know LockPickingLawyer.
@@righteousone1 what an ironic name you have
A MasterLock is literally better at keeping the owner out than a criminal.
Me: "when it comes to shame ML, it's all said and done already... "
LPL: "hold my picks"
Hold his picks because there's a reasonable chance he won't even need them.
My favorite part was him relocking the master lock with the pick.
It would take longer for a person to realize the "not a lock" lock doesn't need to be picked then it would to pick the master lock
Maybe, though I make a habit of giving every lock one good tug before trying to open it any other way. Sometimes people don't click them fully in place, sometimes the locks are old and have rusted guts that break easily, sometimes they are just cheaply made from bad metal that snaps. Step 2 is either a crow bar or mallet or both. When it comes to padlocks breaking them is often easier than picking them, unless it's a master lock, then you just rake them open.
@@Vincent_Beers I believe this is known as something called a 'sick burn'
@@Vincent_Beers It would be cool if something like this had a small spring-loaded pin to disengage the latch mechanism. Something that an opportunist wouldn’t notice immediately, but that would defeat the tugging “exploit”.
*than
@@Vincent_Beers why are you picking open other people locks……. Seems kinda sus
I love it how he had more trouble getting the key out of the lock than picking the lock
The "Not A Lock" is far more secure as it doesn't have the name "MASTER" stamped on the front. That means at least some people would be discouraged from trying to get into it non-destructively due to not feeling sufficiently competent to open it.
So true man. :) Not a lock sounds more secure also, and would have never realized of it's existence.
My dad used to always tell me “locks are meant to keep out honest people”. Had no idea what the hell that even meant till I watch LPL.
I’ve always heard that too. The benefit of the “Not A Lock”, is purely visual. Someone sees it, decides it must be locked, and passes it by without even trying. By the time someone is actually yanking on it to see if it will open, they are already trying to break in.
The only crooks here are Master Lock for continuing to market this garbage
That saying has always irked me just a little for some reason. I think it's because an honest person wouldn't care if there was a lock on something or not, because they're honest and wouldn't steal regardless of how easy it was. If they did steal from something that wasn't locked, well they're not a very honest person to begin with, are they? A lock doesn't do anything more than make it a little harder for someone to give in to their temptations. I get what the sentiment is behind it, in that acting on temptation would require more effort in the process, but it's one of those sayings that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, like falling head over heels....if your head is over your heels, then you're still in an upright position.
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper ehhhhh I mean a lock is a very good indicator that somewhere is off limits, not just that you shouldn't steal from there. If you lock a door in a building/it looks locked youre going to keep out all the "honest" people who are going to know that's not the right way.
@@ellie8674 A sign that says 'private - no trespassing' does that too.
The 'honest people' saying is nonsense. A lock is just another stage in making something more difficult to access. Not total (& that is important to remember), but not nothing either.
Sometimes I've encountered locked doors that SHOULD have been open - last week the door to a stairwell was locked even though the escalator was out of action & it was the signposted way. In that case the lock just says 'somebody fucked up'
You know it’s easy when the whole video is only 1:58!
The "Not A Lock" device needs a hidden shackle release... I vote for either: A) press one of the Rivet Pins down to open N.A.L. device, or B) grasp and turn portion of lock body, which opens shackle.
Yeh, something just enough so if someone randomly tugs on it, it doesn’t just open up.
Pulling down the shackle, and while the shackle is pressed down, press the cylinder in.
at that point you could just get a master lock. sounds like it does what you want it to
@@DragonJohn I had a Master dial combination lock in high school, which I used to hammer my locker hinge pins down with, because it was handy.... Well, from then on, I could smack the lock up and against the door to instantly unlock it. Dial combo worked, but I could open it with a good swipe upwards 💪
@@akkudererste Just pressing the cylinder like a button would be good enough
Master lock needs to sue 'Not a Lock' for stealing their proprietary info. That's their move!
Actually, the "not a lock" might take longer for an experienced picker to get into. They'd look at the M736 once and go ahead picking it knowing how easy it is. They'd probably have to look twice at the "not a lock" to figure out what exactly it is, thus taking longer.
And if they're not the sort to tug on the lock as a check, they might waste time trying to fuck with a keyway that does nothing
Put both on there, the master lock should keep out the inexperienced people.
I’ve had several locks that functioned exactly the same as “Not A Lock.” No pick required. Unfortunately, they were marketed as working locks, rather than as “Not A Lock.”
Just picked my first lock... first thing I said was "let me do that again to make sure it's not a fluke"
Was it?
I picked two practice locks at a party where one of the guests brought them. The two pin lock was so loose that it opened when I was just feeling around for the pins. That was not a fluke.
On the first try on the 3 pin lock, I felt the pins and had the right tension. It opened immediately. Unfortunately, that was a fluke. It took on the order of 10 minutes to get it open again. Then I moved onto other party activities.
@@paulk5670 twas not! Iwas able to get it a few more times in a timely manner. It was just a cheap 3 pin plastic lock tho
@@ImPactSilent Congrats!
@@ImPactSilent you should start with easier stuff, like off the shelf Master locks. 🤣
"could literally just teach a child how to open". Jesus, the burn.
It's not hyperbole. I have, in fact, taught a child to use a comb pick. Elementary school, Master Lock 141D.
"Not-a-lock" is more secure because it doesn't have the master logo.
@@righteousone1 You have an upper-case i in your name for a reason aswell.
@@righteousone1 you forgot to add "self" in front of your name.
@@watisvaccen He is obviously the CEO of master lock trying to recoup a tiny iota of credibility.
@@jamest39 Most underrated comment of the day
@@jamest39 Well, whoever he is, he's a rather big failure. All yhese comments is a significant amount of effort.The roasted name of Master lock can't be saved. The ego of thr RIghteous fool can't either. The only big problem I have is figuring out if it's immense stupidity or some other mental issue at work because it's actions more common from someone with a single digit in their age.
"Not A Lock" is like the TSA of padlocks, but better, because at least you get to keep your shoes and dignity.
Ahhe dignity I remember those days
@@NeilCWCampbell It's been 84 years...
Yep.
No cavity search.ha
The Not a Lock can be improved by adding a fake keyhole that looks exactly like a real one, and require pressing the shackle inwards before it can be pulled out.
They are all basically "Not A Lock" to the LPL
The only lock that has beaten (for now) the LPL is the Bowley.
Give em that magic tug before opening then opps i broke in
@@Bri-bn5kt other people already picked it, it just needed some time and tool development
@@Bri-bn5kt I think Bowley was a paid promotion, I looked up those videos and he never actually attempts to pick them, he just talks about them. Very strange for LPL videos. If he doesn't even attempt it and yet he's promoting it then logic should dictate that he can pick it, but doesn't want to do it on camera. I could be wrong, but I did actually go look those videos up to specifically see him fail picking them, and the takeaway was that he didn't even try or say he tried.
Some locks do give him difficulty. If a lock requires "the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made" and more than a minute of his time, that lock is damn near good enough for anyone that isn't a government agent. LPL does these in his lab under excellent conditions. In the field it would take considerably longer, assuming the criminal had the specialty tool, knowledge, and experience to pull it off at all.
Glad to have you back, LPL. Your voice sounds a lot healthier today than in the last video. Good to see you've been drinking your tea.
@@righteousone1 what exactly has he lied about to make you call him that?
Righteous out here doin some early morning Russian Troll farming, Das vadanya comrade, how goes the misinformation mission today?
I liked your commend just cuz username
@@righteousone1 First shut up, is not your problem.
@@righteousone1 Lol its not fangirling its just attention seeking, mostly for normal likes.
It'd be interesting if you did a teardown and look at the internals of some of these super shitty locks to show why it works. I really wonder what is going on with the pins inside the lock for this to even be possible
The comb pick is pushing both the driver pins and the key pins above the shear line to open the lock. Instead of matching the key pins with the shear line it just pushes everything out of the way to open the lock
This particular exploit happens because the chambers for the pins are too long. There is too much space inside the lock. So you can just push everything out of the way and rotate the cylinder.
I have an old Master Lock combination lock on the shed where I store my lawnmower and various yard tools.
However, I don't bother to put it through both door shackles, or close the lock. I got tired of constantly locking and unlocking it, and we live in a really safe neighborhood. However, this way, it looks locked and will discourage any curious neighborhood kids. If anybody really, seriously wants to get in there, I'd rather let them steal my 30 year old mower than risk them damaging the shed doors!
People at master lock: oh thank God he's not doing one of our locks
LPL: not let's compare this to something master gives a 10/10.
People at master lock: sad noises
LPL: "Let's do that one more time so you could see it was not a fluke." It's NEVER a fluke. If it's ever a fluke I would be astonished.
I'd argue the "not a lock" product has a pretty good security application: deterring opportunistic thefts, which are by far the most common. The next step up is breaking and entering thefts, which many times a real pad lock won't prevent if they use a crowbar or break a window.
Yeah, that’s the whole idea behind the product. It says it right on the packaging.
Or just so a child or pet doesn't push open a gate he isn't supposed to open
You can't stop a smart theif. But you can make their job look time-consuming or difficult so they go rob the stupid person. For instance, I have a cable lock for my bike. It's very thick but I know someone can cut it with a bolt cutter. However, unless they're superman they'd have to lever the bolt cutter on the ground. So I'm always careful to wrap the cable so it can't touch the ground. A theif doesn't want to struggle. They want to hit and git before someone shows up.
@@cybervigilante you have seen the video where a guy breaks into a light pole, adds a plug into the cables, plugs in an anglegrinder to cut through a lock, packs up and then bikes away? In the middle of new york? NO ONE CARES about bikes except the owner. and the thief apparently.
@@lyulf0 The solution is to not live in a rat's-nest mega-city that actively refuses to police "low level" criminal activity
"locks only keep honest people out" and when it comes to getting into something you don't necessarily attack the strongest point - like some fancy padlock, you maybe go after the chain it's on, or the hinges on a fence, or if it's on a shed maybe you just peel the aluminum siding off, and slip in through the hole like a big raccoon.
security is mostly an illusion, unless it's protected by a deadly trap (illegal) or manned by someone who can do something, it's only a minor delay for someone determined.
This is why borders need armed guards
@@andrewgreeb916 They do... they really really do.
@@andrewgreeb916 heh, thats one logistical hell for larger borders, try to put armed soldiers on the ENTIRE border between like Canada and the USA 24/7 all year and you simply cant, because its not cost efficient at all.
Shorter borders who has a demilitarised zone like the one in Korea, it would work yea, but its litteraly the most militarised border of the world.
Honestly, Armed people and guards can protect efficiently a property but when it comes to larger land mass, security is but a dream not even an illusion since criminals will find new ways to smuggle drugs and stuff.
See, there are levels of security for different levels of what you are gaurding. The goal is not to make it impossible to get at your things, but to make it take more effort than it is worth.
@@andrewgreeb916 This is why the excitement about Trump's border wall was so annoying to me. IF he actually got it built, the next president would simply remove the guards and let the Mexicans stack dirt against it until they had a nice wheelchair-accessible ramp.
Man I love LPL. He's a true master of his craft. Elite if a dare say. Short, sweet to the point and if he does stray from that you can bet it's entertaining, or at min holds your attention. Of all the yt teaching type of video creators LPL is at the top of the list IMHO. I'm regards to being an expert in his field and providing reciepts for his claims.
Great job lpl you keep us on the 🪝!
Have a great week!
The not-a-lock is perfectly suitable for scenarios where your only aim is to misdirect curiosity or persuade a low-effort criminal that the visibly unlocked door 30 feet away is probably less effort.
Not-a-lock also has the interesting legal effect of turning what would be the crime of trespass into breaking and entering if you open it or bypass it, especially if you put it on a low gate that could otherwise be jumped over, because despite how easy it is to open, putting it on a gate probably meets the legal bar for visibly restricting public access, when an unlocked but closed gate would still allow for door-to-door salesmen, beggars or proseletisers to be within their theoretical grey zone of permission to reasonably come through the closed gate directly to the front door to knock to request access to the property until explicitly asked to leave. It might even have the effect, if put on a trashcan, of turning items from "discarded", and thus not protected from random warantless search, into "controlled access until destroyed", which might be legally protected, without actually hindering authorised trash collection services.
I can also see that the not-a-lock wouldn't be incredibly difficult to transform from security by misdirection into something like a reusable tamper-evident seal with an audible alarm or internal counter that ticks over every time it's opened.
Edit: This post is not legal advice. Laws might differ in different jurisdictions.
Nice analysis
> I can also see that the not-a-lock wouldn't be incredibly difficult to transform from security by misdirection into something like a reusable tamper-evident seal with an audible alarm or internal counter that ticks over every time it's opened.
I'm actually really against IoT proliferation, but this might be one of the best applications of IoT you could come up with. You could easily hide a chip and a button cell in there, and if someone tugs it open, it trips a switch and starts sending out a silent signal to you or your alarm company.
@@tippyc2 this would definitely work, but I was thinking about something even simpler: most of the trucks delivering items from distribution centres to stores don't actually have locks on them, they have essentially easy to break zip-ties with a unique number stamped into them, so if you have a broken or missing the seal or the incorrect number on the seal the recipient knows to reject the entire delivery or at least check and count every item instead of just accepting it as is. I was suggesting a spring activated mechanical incrementer with five dials visible through a piece of transparent plastic on the side of the not-a-lock, so that delivery trucks could reuse the lock, instead of throwing away hundreds of thousands of little pieces of numbered plastic every year.
You only have to send the value on the incrementer when it leaves the warehouse to compare with the value on the incrementer when it arrives at the destination securely, exactly as they currently do with the tamper-evident plastic seals. There really is no need for any electronics or IOT stuff for it to work very well, especially if you already have an unmonitored camera setup focused on the area, which you only check when the numbers don't match up.
The not-a-lock could also be used if you have something that doesn't stay closed by itself that you want to stay closed but also want to make it easy to open.
The pathway between the road and your front door is public access regardless of the presence of a gate or lock. It's a legal precedent involving the postal service and isn't going to change. Postal law is bizarre.
And once your trash is out on the curb it isn't yours anymore, locks or not. But if you put a fake lock on it, I can guarantee the trash truck will drive right on by.
@@blumoogle2901 It's not just for the receiver, but it's for the driver too. To protect them from getting spanked at a weigh station or other such shenanigans.
I was in a hardware store one day and overheard a customer asking a service person about Master Locks. Customer was told not to use them for the higher security use they were asking about. When asked why, I casually picked up one of the locks, slipped a straightened paperclip up the keyway, and popped the lock open. Looked them both in the eyes, and said, “Because they are not locks.” I didn’t expect it to work, as it was a new lock, and thought they would have fixed that bypass issue.
Did you do it again just to show it wasn’t a fluke?
@@Ayrshore Regretfully no. I was as shocked as the worker and customer at the time. I didn't think to try it again. It was one of their cheaper and older locks, so that was to my advantage.
This kind of feels like a r/ThatHappened story, but considering LPL videos, I'll believe you.
@@Liggliluff Yeah definitely never happened. Dude wants us to believe he had a paperclip handy for no reason that he also didn't mind destroying so he could have a chance at a bypass against a masterlock (BTW I own paperclips and have a few dozen masterlocks and my paperclips do not fit into my masterlock keyways...), and he risked this bypass despite claiming he "didn't think it would work," _after_ making his grand announcement of "BECAUSE THEY AREN'T LOCKS?" He would've looked like the biggest dumbass imaginable if he made that grandiose statement and then couldn't pop the bypass.
Also, I'm an offensive security professional (networks, binary reversing, physical pentests, you name it) and I haven't done physical security shit in the better part of 2 years due to covid. My lockpicking skills have faltered a bit, but my intimate knowledge of random one-off bypasses depending on the makes & models has PLUMMETED.
If this guy knew of lock bypasses to this degree, he'd know the exact make/model that would be vulnerable.
Plus, his story doesn't add up. His first post says "as it was a new lock" and his second post says "It was one of the cheaper and older locks." Which was it?
The whole thing reeks of twitter/FB bragging. "I looked them both in the eyes" yeah, I bet.
@@far2ez539 tldr
I love your shamless plugs, I bought a kit off Amazon got it today and Friday I'm ordering the echelon with the comb picks from your site.
The more I watch LPL, the more I think that, when he was young - MasterLock had done some great injustice to him - like someone stole his only bike - locked by MasterLock product, or LPL applied to a position at MasterLock, and got denied. Since then LPL's live went sideways... LPL swore to get his revenge on MasterLock!)))))
You suggesting a Netflix series, where Keanu Reeves playes him in a John Wick style movie?
@@torma99 I'd watch that.
"I once saw him open 3 locks... with a pencil. With a fucking pencil!"
@@Allahpaca I'd dare LPL actually doing it))))
"Not a lock' is actually very secure. It is more pick resistent than a Medico. In fact, I would rate it on par with Bowley lock!
One could almost say not a lock is pick proof... I don't think that Evan lpl could pick a lock that doesn't have pins
You've heard of Single Pin Picking, now get ready for Zero Pin Picking! Anyone can do it!
This channel convinced me a bolt and nylock nut are more difficult to overcome quickly than most locks.
"Let's do that one more time so you can see that was not a fluke..." At this point, it's a Master Lock... it's never a fluke.
Just when you think the master lock burns couldn’t get any worse, he goes and finds the 4th degree!!!!!!!
Forget that, I think he was at least hitting fifth. (and yes, there are six degrees of burns- though 4th, 5th, and 6th are often only seen at autopsy)
@@caseydarrah oh wow that's cool, I had no idea. Looked it up, 6th degree is burns down into bone 🤢😭
You mean any better, not worse LOL.
worked for a company where we had those masterlocks on construction site storage trailers and would secure things like nuclear density gages and other testing equipment inside, and the hardest part of opening the lock was getting the core to turn even when the right key was inserted, that and actually getting to the key slot
Loved how he flicked the core back in after he opened it.
I wish I had "not a lock" when I went to school. We had lockers for book, and school supplies, and we had to provide our own locks. I quite often forgot my padlock key. Funny side note, this is when we learned that same batches of locks opens by any key in that batch. We had four Abus locks that were keyed the same, to make it even funnier the of the locks were side by side, so the owners had to pay attention to open their own locker. This went on for 2 years. I still have my "Tri-circle NO 266" padlock 30 years later, "securing" my storage space.
You know a lock is bad when you have to be careful to avoid accidentally opening the wrong locker!
@@quillmaurer6563 well there are only so many combinations a key can be made in. If you are making millions of locks you are bound to have some that will have the same key. They just needed to be better at distributing those locks so it is less likely that a batch gets shipped to the same location.
Imagine being the guy who runs the store where LPL gets all these locks.
Where he just drops a bunch of random locks on the counter and buys every single one of them just to show how bad they really are.
I can even imagine the cashier being like “oh boy when is this video going up”
I think at this point MasterLock should adopt *"Not A Lock"* name to avoid being roasted by LPL 😂
🤣🤣🤣💖🇺🇲🤔let's go brandon!
@@righteousone1 Let me let you in on a secret: Magicians actually can't do magic. It's all a show.
Now you're blown away, right?
Also, santa's not real.
@@watisvaccen Just to make sure he gets it… watis is implying you’re a child, @RIghteous
@@watisvaccen Don't tell them about the tooth fairy or they're gonna go nuclear
@@righteousone1 it would take more effort to "fake" these videos than do them "for real". Do you think he manufactures spoof locks or uses editing tricks? The notion is already ridiculous since the locks perform exactly the same when *you* or *I* use them, meaning you can pick them yourself using the exact methods you see in the videos.
Master Lock's rating 10/10 must be translated to "Ensure everyone will open it every time"
10/10 people can open it.
I think we cracked their code
I'd like to see a different sort of "Not a lock" Where there's actually some other trick to unlocking it too. Though at the same time, many of those locks that are shaped like it can already be opened easily with a soda can and scissors.
I’m convinced Master Lock is owned by the TSA. Looks like it’s supposed to be secure, boasts its own success, and works as well as a tissue paper boat
When the Not-A-Lock puts up a little more resistance than a Master Lock!
@@righteousone1 you're writing just like how donald trump was tweeting. A real sourpuss. Sad!
@@watisvaccen Righteous is probably a Master Lock employee... 😎
@@righteousone1 You... you DO get that nobody here listens to you, right? I mean, you HAVE to see that.
@@righteousone1 when you defeat yourself by repeatedly commenting, increasing post engagement, increasing reputation scores, driving up visibility and revenue.. go ahead, keep it up. He's going to appreciate the money you're making him.
@@righteousone1 this guy doesn't know that what he's doing is actually probably helping LPL. lol
You've totally got me into this world... and this is coming from someone who's never had any reason or inspiration to do so, beyond your videos and the general idea that being able to pick a lock is cool anyway. I now own a nice comprehensive set of picks... I've picked many low to medium locks... I'm the guy that gets called at work when a drawer or cabinet has a misplaced key... and heck, I'm now even re-keying / re-pinning locks of various brands to work with one another's keys. You've ignited this interest in me 100% my friend, all you... and I appreciate it. It's a pretty neat talent to have, and one that not a lot of others seem to possess.
Imagine spending an hour trying to pick the not a lock, and finally after being frustrated for an hour just give it a big pull out of anger and it pops open 🤣.
LPL: *sneezes*
Masterlock: turns into NOT A Lock
The thing I’ve noticed about master locks is that they are really hard to cut or break, but over no security against lock picks.
"I'm not sure there is a significant practical difference" - Reality is soooo savage sometimes
Master locks should just include a rake pick instead of a key, it’s just faster.
How many locks do you think are defeated by picking? Spoiler: practically zero. Thieves don't waste time on something that may or may not work and requires specialized, identifiable tools. They simply break whatever the lock is attached to with $5 prybar, because 9/10 times, its substantially weaker than the crappiest lock. And anyone who is going to pick a lock, is 9/10 times going to defeat whatever you have. I guarantee the lowly Master has stopped more thefts, than all of the 'good' locks combined. Security is practices, not products.
@@springbloom5940 Found the Master Lock sales rep
@@springbloom5940 i see your point, but in the case of the m736 this flaw is inexcusable for a 50€ lock. I don't see why anyone aware of this flaw would buy the m736 instead of a crappy 2€ lock that provides as much picking resistance. And I disagree on your last statement: having a bad security device and being aware of its flaw is not a good security practice. Locks are products.
@@springbloom5940 Sure. If somone is going to break into something with a lock on it they are just going to cut the lock off almost every single time. There is also something to be said for company that specifically markets something as being pick resistant, when it is one of the easiest products on the market to pick. The exact wording on their site is "5-pin cylinder for maximum pick resistance". You can say that picking is irrelevant, and I have to agree, but masterlock is the one that chose to advertise their product in that manor.
@@springbloom5940
You don't have it quite right. Thieves will use whatever method is easiest whose effort is commensurate with the item to be stolen. AKA, if it's too hard compared to the possible reward, they won't bother.
Thus, using a thick chain to lock up a bicycle is good security, because cutting through the chain requires a specialized tool and some time. The risk of getting caught is usually greater than the value of the bike. However, if you use a master lock to secure the ends of the chain, you could have gotten the same security with some twine and a double-knot. This is why the choice of lock does matter. You don't want it to be an obviously-weak link.
You are really something else! It appears that you know what to do, how to do it, where to do it, when to do it and why you are doing it. Your knowledge and activities are invaluable! I’m so glad we got you on our side! Keep up the good work. I truly mean it. Thanks!
Brilliant. Similarly; a friend of mine used to 'lock' his bike up against some railings (in a very populated place in the middle of a city) just by wrapping the chain around it as you would if you were going to use a padlock as well, except that he never did. To the casual onlooker, it looked like a locked bike. It never got nicked.
Something I’ve been wondering lately is how different tools contribute to overall security. For example, a kid could learn how to get that Master Lock open pretty easily, but would they have the right tool for the job? LPL has probably used more than 100 different tools on this channel, and if I’m not mistaken he even helps to design new ones, so… At what point is the tool required for the type of opening we’re talking about too specific or obscure? Does engineering a custom tool to make opening easier mean it wasn’t easy, and/or would the obscurity of the tool make opening it the other way easier for most people?
I have a small pocket knife that has one blade that can open some office locks faster than the key.
The theatre of security, like dummy cameras and all Master locks.
This episode reminds me of a security inspection I conducted on a US Army missile base in Germany as an MP in the early 80's. Vehicle security consisted of a length of heavy chain welded to the vehicle floor, then looped around the steering wheel and fixed with a brass lock. The key box was empty but for two hooks. I went down range and found every lock was cut in such a way that the hasp would simply spin around and free the chain. Every lock!
I never could understand why they kept those two pairs of keys...