Before writing a negative comment, I suggest watching both linked videos. The engineer study suggest AWD is a bigger factor than tire design when it comes to traction. My Model Y came with all season M + S tire emblems, with AWD. This ALREADY MEETS THE COLORADO TRACTION CERTIFICATION. The engineer study suggests my set up is already better than snow tires on front wheel, drive and rear wheel drive in regards to traction. The snow socks in my view, are a fantastic back up plan if conditions are horrendous and you need better stopping. The Fast Lane Car video tests prove that sock actually work better than snow tires.
They suggest 30 mph is maximum. Ironically today I drove from Steamboat to Boulder. Went through rabbit, ears pass. Roads covered, light snow. didn’t even bother with socks, All season M + S, and all wheel drive was perfectly fine.
Maybe you should watch the engineering video and Fast Lane Car first. All I’m suggesting is if you’re running around with front wheel drive or rear wheel, drive and snow tires and you think you’re hot shit. Ironically all wheel drive with just all season tires will outperform you. It’s just physics. The socks under very bad conditions, in the Fast Lane Car testing are actually better in stopping than snow tires.
All wheel drive stopping distance is the same as RWD. Winter tires definitely shorten the stopping distance and that is the main safety point. Not getting up the hill.
Yes, it showed snow tires stopped 2 car lengths shorter than all season. I wonder how the "all season" with Snow rating would compare. If you had the socks on, it would be better than snow tires.
No Doubt. The studies done with this claim that it does a pretty good job. Is it as good as snow tires no. But with socks, it’s better. Not saying this is for everyone but for many it’s a vastly cheaper and easier option.
I had an AWD Mercury Mariner and not once did I have to use chains or socks for my vehicle. I drover all over the cascade mountains in it during the winter times. I just had good tires.
Socks are fantastic at getting moving. Would love to see you coming down the hill under control on M+S tyres. AWD doesn’t help much then. I’ve tried 3peak/snowflake marked all weather tyres and they are better than budget winter tyres, and no issues with premature wear or noise in summer. They would be my choice over m+S all seasons.
It ain't worth it to cheap out on winter tires. If I'm in front of you on a snow packed or blacktop highway and something happens and we all brake hard and I'm on my winter tires stopping 20-30 feet sooner and you hit me you'll be paying for it in insurance premium increases for many years. If you hit me hard enough and cause a lot if damage you might be paying double. It actually happened to me, I was rear ended by a van and it wrote my car off. The guy begged me in tears not to go through insurance because he was already paying close to double from a previous accident that he was deemed 100% at fault. I was also injured and my thumb will never be the same as I've lost range some range of motion. So there are lots of consequences to these decisions. Snow socks and other traction devices I can see as an aid for those bad situations where you are stuck but I think its smarter to have the most grip in snow or ice.
The engineer testing suggest that all wheel drive with all season tires, is better than front wheel or rear wheel drive with snow tires. in my case, my all season tires are mud and snow certified. in the state of Colorado, all wheel, drive with mud and snow all season already meets the Colorado traction requirement. The other test shows that the socks stop better than snow tires.
@@CyberTruckOneThe issue there is AWD and FWD has nothing to do with braking. Snow socks wont be on the highway. Colorado has warmer winters than some but you still have some days/weeks of slippery conditions. Mud and snow rated is at least better than regular all season tire compound.
@@practicalguy973Yeah, braking is far more important. Especially when you drive a heavy electric car. Source: I drive a heavy, electric car in snow and ice. I have different sets of wheels for summer and winter.
i love the fact these perform so good in the snow and slush, but my issue is mainly urban driving where the main streets are plowed with salt but the inner/residential streets are snowy and slushy... that would ruin these snow socks if they were driven on the road. Which makes winter tires till the most diverse performance in a snowy city?
I agree, that’s why you’d be perfectly fine with all wheel drive and all season tires. The study suggest they are better than front wheel or rear wheel drive with snow tires
Socks are great when they are on your tires and you don't need to go on the highway. But winter tires are not so much about climbing a hill (although it's great for that), they are about keeping you safe when you hit an unexpected patch of slippery pavement. You don't have to creep around at slow speed when your tires actually have good traction. I would never rely on socks to keep my family safe.
I think you’re missing my point. I have all wheel drive and I have all season M + S tires. I already met the Colorado standard. I would only use the socks in heavy snow conditions with steep roadways. if you’re driving on blacktop, you don’t need them.
If the blacktop is icy, you do need something other than bare all-seasons! Winter tires, real winter tires, add huge safety to winter travel when there may be snow or ice but traffic is moving along at 50-60 mph. Socks are only good for getting out of a jam, not so much for winter road safety.@@CyberTruckOne
@@ZipZoomZip there’s a Tesla UA-camr in Canada…. Only drives RWD Model Y….. says it’s fine .. no issues over 3 years. Attributes it to even weight distribution.
I grew up in the Great Lakes region and used my Mazda Miata as my daily driver year round. Lightweight, rear wheel drive, and all season tires with open differential. Never a single issue at all. My point is, knowing how to drive in the snow is infinitely more important that relying solely on tires. If that little Miata can master old man winter without a hitch on all season tires, surely a vehicle with AWD will be that much better!
Goodyear. 255/40r20 M + S it’s in all season tire on AWD car. it meets Colorado certification for traction on I 70. the socks are just a bonus for major emergencies
My physio just about got rid of his model why because the factory tires scared him during winter drivung. He thought he was going to die on occasion. He decided to try winter tires the new year and swore it wasbt even the same vehicle; and this is what moat people say, up her in Canada. The science says, "Get winter tires." Your video is bad advice.
I found snow socks wear out fast and don't stay on the wheels that well. This is using them to travel a few hundred yards at a time, not leave them on the car for longer distances. I think they are a decent alternative to chains if you need that much grip, but winter tyres are there on the car all the time helping you to stop and turn during your long distance drives when you never know when you will hit ice. All seasons are not as good in these conditions. You don't need a second set of wheels, you can pay to switch tyres on the rims twice a year. It is a hassle, but it doesn't add much to the overall cost of ownership of a car. I've had scary experiences and would not compromise and use winter tyres. If I drove in conditions that justified it, I might also carry snow socks.
What brand did you use? Driving your socks on dry pavement? Were you driving over 30 mph? My premise is that I’m only going to use them once or twice a year maybe anyway. Were you using them regularly?
My reference video for winter Vs all season Vs summer tyres is 15 years old which is how long ago I used snow socks. ua-cam.com/video/GlYEMH10Z4s/v-deo.htmlsi=5Suyv84fPdmbfTI4 I only used them on snow and had 3 good uses out of them and then they would not stay on the wheels. I switched to using winters tyres after that so I would always have the best grips I could get in winter conditions. 15 years ago we had several years in a row of snow in the southern UK. I still use winter tyres for better wet grip in the winter even if it does not snow. This is on a RWD car.
@@AdrianHilder For the record, Winter Tires are great. As mentioned, my set up with M+S all weather tires w/ AWD, already meets the colorado traction standard. Assuming you don't go over 30 MPH, don't drive on black top, I think they are a fantastic option. The Fast Land Truck guys showed stopping distances better with socks than winter tires.
My Model 3 LR with all seasons was not great in the snow this year, went sideways into a curb at about 5 mph once making a turn lol. No damage. I'll get winter tires next year. My old Infiniti is 10x better in snow with them.
I have Model Y AWD with OEM All Season tires. Once there is lots of snow, the difference between winter tires and all seasons can be felt. Winter tires give a lot of confidence while turning and stopping. The all seasons keeps slipping. I dont think that one chart really captures the difference. If you get a foot of snow (which happens probably 5 - 10 times each winter here), and have to take the baby to daycare 10 miles away, I don't want to take chance on a hill. There are enough fools around me with the wrong tires that make it a dangerous situation anyways. Edit: I did watch the EE video
I agree with you. If u driving in a foot of snow, 10 times a year. Makes perfect sense. My guess is most people drive in very deep snow once in 5 years.
@CyberTruckOne i can't wrap my mind that winter tires in USA isn't necessary especially in cold states, cybertruck is heavier and will result in bigger stopping distance(on summer tires) default wheels with summer tires, another wheels - winter tyres on 19, just swap it during winter and summer periods
@@RMabudabi There are only 2 states in entire USA that require winter tire standards. Colorado is one. I meet that standard. Tire tread thickness is a requirement. The CT meets that. It's also 4 wheel drive. Actually AWD, but I think the software is vasty more capable. I do actually have chains for my CT, but again, 99.9% of the time, it's perfectly fine. But the chains are there. Most people, do the best think in horrible snow and ice. They stay home.
This for 95% of people out there? No. I would use these on the freeway. I am impressed on how they work but only when you are stuck but I wouldn't use these as an alternative. Save your money and buy snow tires.
It’s amazing how many times I have to repeat the same thing on this page we’re going on like 100. My tires and set up already meet the goddamn DOT code for SNOW in Colorado. The socks are only for major emergencies. If I’m on a highway and there’s a foot of snow, I’m only driving five or 10 miles an hour. The socks will be perfect. By the way, if it’s snowing that bad just stay home.
I have driven with and without and will never drive without winter tires once the snow hits. Using other UA-cam content to justify reduced safety in slippery conditions is insane. Last thing I’m going to do on a busy highway is pull over and put on a set of socks. If you’re single, have no family, and couldn’t care less if you get into an accident - then yeah, follow this “advice”. Also, 90%+ of the population is in the city, not the mountainside where you must live. Next thing you’re going to do is suggest “don’t use prescription glasses while driving - you can get a set of $5 Walmart ones for the few times you’ll hit whatever looks blurry or fall off a cliff according to a few other UA-cam videos.”
I will say the same thing I've said on half these comments. I think you should read the pinned post at the bottom of the video. The tire set up I have, prior to doing anything, already meets Colorado DOT safety requirements. So I literally ALREADY have a car that can drive in snow. Period. It already meets the standard the only 2 states in the country have. Furthermore, the socks, also meet Colorado DOT standards. BTW. I love the 5 dollar cheaters, they are fantastic. :)
This is the most idiotic advice i've ever heard. As a Canadian who deals with 4 months of solid winter, there is no replacement for winter tires. The mud and snow dont even cut it.
Ironically. There are only three states in the US that regulate traction. Colorado is one of them. The set up I have prior to doing anything meets that certification. The point you’re missing about the testing and my video isn’t about the tires. It’s that all wheel drive is the bigger factor. The tires I have, and suggest you should have have a snow and mud rating. My set up, with all wheel drive, is better than a front wheel drive car or a rear wheel drive car with snow tires. The socks add a back up plan that makes your car stop better than snow tires. At least that’s what the testing suggests.
You should dig a little deeper. You could have 8 wheel drive but with out proper tires, they're useless. All season tires and and the Snow and Muds you so proudly claim are great start getting hard at 45 degrees. That means they become slippery and useless, which is pretty much why the car is reacting the way it is. Real winter tires , whether they are Blizzak or Gislaved are made from rubber that stays soft and sticks to snow and ice. Your socks are a joke. And there are real world tests that show real winter tires on a 2 wheel drive are better than what you are presenting. Just buy real winter tires and stop all this promotion of misinformation. @@CyberTruckOne
Its interesting that my reply was deleted. So I'll say it again. The tires you speak of, Mud and Snow, start to get hard in temperatures of 45 degrees, making them useless in in actual winter. Dedicated snow tires are made of soft rubber that sticks to snow and ice. Its the reason the car is spinning out in the video. You can see the snow packing the treads. Thats doesn't happen with real winter tires, the soft rubber flicks the snow out. Also there are numerous studies that show 2 wheel drive cars with snow tires will out perform an all wheel drive with none. You haven't even touched on breaking performance. These socks you speak of are a useless waste of money. I feel bad that you made an ill informed video.
Its 2024 and people are still finding ways to fight off owning winter tires. Lol these socks are not for the highway or city. Its good for wilderness areas. Whos gonna stop and take off and put back on these things. Also M and S dont mean shiit. The compound isnt soft like a true winter tire it wont grip properly and pretty much act like hockey pucks. Also the biggest factor ever is owning a fresh pair of brand name Cooper Winter Evolution tires on sale for a cheap 400 dollars after rebate.
I think if you watch the video, I'm not suggesting otherwise. The point. Is with my set up. AWD and Snow classified tires. The car is perfectly fine, actually better than most cars as it is. The socks are for the that 1/100 situation where it's really bad or steep. And in that case, even on a highway where you are driving 4 miles an hour, it's perfectly fine. As stated, the car is already approved by Colorado DOT for route 70 mountain snow, before I ever even put the socks on.
Do yourself and other drivers a favour and buy yourself winter tyres. It is all fun and games until you hit something. Europe has it mandatory and even if that was not the case... Common sense for self preservation suggests you have all four winter tyres.
There are only 2 states that mandate winter tire safety in the entire US. Colorado is one of them. If I was driving on I70 in winter and was pulled over by police for a tire safety check. MY CAR, WITH CURRENT SETUP WOULD PASS! And that’s before the socks.
@@CyberTruckOne I own a 4x4 Touareg and it is still mandatory to use winter tyres. If I travel go to Austria skiing I have to have snow chains or snow/tyre socks in my trunk, no matter if I have brand new winter tyres on my car. I live in the mountains and I wouldn't drive without proper winter tyres. Ask any person from Scandinavia, what kind of tyres are they using during the winter. It sure isn't summer or all year with socks nonsense. Great video anyhow, with good information. What I was trying to say is, that during the winter it is not optimal to drive without winter dedicated tyre.
Agreed, thats the tires. The tires are rated for snow. Is it as good as snow tires? No. They are acceptable. The socks are the added the security when things go from typical snow to blizzard.
Ooohhhh you are very wrong about not using winter tyres. And it's not more expensive, because you are using sommer tyres 7-8mounth each year, and winter tyres 4-5 months each year some if you calculate the usable time for 2 set of non season tyres, instate of use summer and winter tyres. So your conclusions is very Wrong
As the data suggest in all wheel drive car, with all season, tires, is better prepared and capable than a front wheel or rear wheel drive car with winter tires. I didn’t do the study, I’m not the engineer, that’s what he’s saying
Winter tires are not only useful to privide traction, but they hold you on the road in general. If you need to turn or brake on compacted snow, it doesn't matter at all if you have AWD, FWD or RWD, you will loose control without having proper tires with grip.
Socks are fantastic at getting moving. Would love to see you coming down the hill under control on M+S tyres. AWD doesn’t help much then. I’ve tried 3peak/snowflake marked all weather tyres and they are better than budget winter tyres, and no issues with premature wear or noise in summer. They would be my choice over m+S all seasons.
Before writing a negative comment, I suggest watching both linked videos. The engineer study suggest AWD is a bigger factor than tire design when it comes to traction. My Model Y came with all season M + S tire emblems, with AWD. This ALREADY MEETS THE COLORADO TRACTION CERTIFICATION. The engineer study suggests my set up is already better than snow tires on front wheel, drive and rear wheel drive in regards to traction. The snow socks in my view, are a fantastic back up plan if conditions are horrendous and you need better stopping. The Fast Lane Car video tests prove that sock actually work better than snow tires.
I like the idea of having these for an emergency situation, but I probably wouldn't drive with them past 10 mph. Thanks for sharing!
They suggest 30 mph is maximum. Ironically today I drove from Steamboat to Boulder. Went through rabbit, ears pass. Roads covered, light snow. didn’t even bother with socks, All season M + S, and all wheel drive was perfectly fine.
I don’t need snow tires because I have 4-wheel brakes?
Maybe you should watch the engineering video and Fast Lane Car first. All I’m suggesting is if you’re running around with front wheel drive or rear wheel, drive and snow tires and you think you’re hot shit. Ironically all wheel drive with just all season tires will outperform you. It’s just physics. The socks under very bad conditions, in the Fast Lane Car testing are actually better in stopping than snow tires.
@@CyberTruckOnenoooo, stop it! You're referring to forward tracion which is not the point. It's about braking and sideslip.
All wheel drive stopping distance is the same as RWD. Winter tires definitely shorten the stopping distance and that is the main safety point. Not getting up the hill.
Yes, it showed snow tires stopped 2 car lengths shorter than all season. I wonder how the "all season" with Snow rating would compare. If you had the socks on, it would be better than snow tires.
You cannot drive 70 mph with snow socks
@@biggabigga Yes, correct. You can't drive 70 mph in snow tires or socks in a foot of snow.
@CyberTruckOne do you have a foot of snow on the roads?
@@biggabigga No, my point is that nobody does. When it's really bad outside, you drive very slow.
Its the stopping in snow that matters!
No Doubt. The studies done with this claim that it does a pretty good job. Is it as good as snow tires no. But with socks, it’s better. Not saying this is for everyone but for many it’s a vastly cheaper and easier option.
I had an AWD Mercury Mariner and not once did I have to use chains or socks for my vehicle. I drover all over the cascade mountains in it during the winter times. I just had good tires.
Yes, sort of proves my point. And knowing how to drive in the snow is equally as important.
@@CyberTruckOne You are correct. 👍
ICE and EV are different, so your point is somewhat irrelevant or somewhat relevant depending on how you see it.
excellent video!!
Thanks, I think my hypothesis is sound. If I lived in the mountains and dealt with snow and hills every day. I'd do snow tires. :)
Do you think putting on socks will help RWD vehicle as well?
100% It will stop better and have better traction than snow tires. The only problem with socks is you can't drive with them on blacktop.
Socks are fantastic at getting moving. Would love to see you coming down the hill under control on M+S tyres. AWD doesn’t help much then.
I’ve tried 3peak/snowflake marked all weather tyres and they are better than budget winter tyres, and no issues with premature wear or noise in summer. They would be my choice over m+S all seasons.
They work great for traction, stopping and acceleration.
It ain't worth it to cheap out on winter tires. If I'm in front of you on a snow packed or blacktop highway and something happens and we all brake hard and I'm on my winter tires stopping 20-30 feet sooner and you hit me you'll be paying for it in insurance premium increases for many years. If you hit me hard enough and cause a lot if damage you might be paying double. It actually happened to me, I was rear ended by a van and it wrote my car off. The guy begged me in tears not to go through insurance because he was already paying close to double from a previous accident that he was deemed 100% at fault. I was also injured and my thumb will never be the same as I've lost range some range of motion. So there are lots of consequences to these decisions. Snow socks and other traction devices I can see as an aid for those bad situations where you are stuck but I think its smarter to have the most grip in snow or ice.
The engineer testing suggest that all wheel drive with all season tires, is better than front wheel or rear wheel drive with snow tires. in my case, my all season tires are mud and snow certified. in the state of Colorado, all wheel, drive with mud and snow all season already meets the Colorado traction requirement. The other test shows that the socks stop better than snow tires.
@@CyberTruckOneThe issue there is AWD and FWD has nothing to do with braking. Snow socks wont be on the highway. Colorado has warmer winters than some but you still have some days/weeks of slippery conditions. Mud and snow rated is at least better than regular all season tire compound.
@@practicalguy973Yeah, braking is far more important. Especially when you drive a heavy electric car. Source: I drive a heavy, electric car in snow and ice. I have different sets of wheels for summer and winter.
Thanks. Appreciate info
I appreciate all the data you've provided. What do you think of having only RWD in winter conditions?
I think it's a problem, especially when vehicle isn't on flat ground and weight is on front wheels.
Very good analysis. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
i love the fact these perform so good in the snow and slush, but my issue is mainly urban driving where the main streets are plowed with salt but the inner/residential streets are snowy and slushy... that would ruin these snow socks if they were driven on the road. Which makes winter tires till the most diverse performance in a snowy city?
I agree, that’s why you’d be perfectly fine with all wheel drive and all season tires. The study suggest they are better than front wheel or rear wheel drive with snow tires
Socks are great when they are on your tires and you don't need to go on the highway. But winter tires are not so much about climbing a hill (although it's great for that), they are about keeping you safe when you hit an unexpected patch of slippery pavement. You don't have to creep around at slow speed when your tires actually have good traction. I would never rely on socks to keep my family safe.
I think you’re missing my point. I have all wheel drive and I have all season M + S tires. I already met the Colorado standard. I would only use the socks in heavy snow conditions with steep roadways. if you’re driving on blacktop, you don’t need them.
If the blacktop is icy, you do need something other than bare all-seasons! Winter tires, real winter tires, add huge safety to winter travel when there may be snow or ice but traffic is moving along at 50-60 mph. Socks are only good for getting out of a jam, not so much for winter road safety.@@CyberTruckOne
@@ZipZoomZip there’s a Tesla UA-camr in Canada…. Only drives RWD Model Y….. says it’s fine .. no issues over 3 years. Attributes it to even weight distribution.
I grew up in the Great Lakes region and used my Mazda Miata as my daily driver year round. Lightweight, rear wheel drive, and all season tires with open differential. Never a single issue at all. My point is, knowing how to drive in the snow is infinitely more important that relying solely on tires. If that little Miata can master old man winter without a hitch on all season tires, surely a vehicle with AWD will be that much better!
Thanks for sharing!
What tires do you use?
Goodyear. 255/40r20 M + S it’s in all season tire on AWD car. it meets Colorado certification for traction on I 70. the socks are just a bonus for major emergencies
My physio just about got rid of his model why because the factory tires scared him during winter drivung. He thought he was going to die on occasion. He decided to try winter tires the new year and swore it wasbt even the same vehicle; and this is what moat people say, up her in Canada. The science says, "Get winter tires." Your video is bad advice.
It appears model Ys are being delivered with different tires. My tires have the mud and snow emblem.
GOOD soultion may actually save you money , but i wonder how long the sock will last...impressive !
In snow you’re good. Get on black top, not so much. Even if they break, they’re so cheap.
I found snow socks wear out fast and don't stay on the wheels that well. This is using them to travel a few hundred yards at a time, not leave them on the car for longer distances. I think they are a decent alternative to chains if you need that much grip, but winter tyres are there on the car all the time helping you to stop and turn during your long distance drives when you never know when you will hit ice. All seasons are not as good in these conditions. You don't need a second set of wheels, you can pay to switch tyres on the rims twice a year. It is a hassle, but it doesn't add much to the overall cost of ownership of a car.
I've had scary experiences and would not compromise and use winter tyres. If I drove in conditions that justified it, I might also carry snow socks.
What brand did you use? Driving your socks on dry pavement? Were you driving over 30 mph? My premise is that I’m only going to use them once or twice a year maybe anyway. Were you using them regularly?
My reference video for winter Vs all season Vs summer tyres is 15 years old which is how long ago I used snow socks. ua-cam.com/video/GlYEMH10Z4s/v-deo.htmlsi=5Suyv84fPdmbfTI4
I only used them on snow and had 3 good uses out of them and then they would not stay on the wheels. I switched to using winters tyres after that so I would always have the best grips I could get in winter conditions. 15 years ago we had several years in a row of snow in the southern UK. I still use winter tyres for better wet grip in the winter even if it does not snow.
This is on a RWD car.
@@AdrianHilder For the record, Winter Tires are great. As mentioned, my set up with M+S all weather tires w/ AWD, already meets the colorado traction standard. Assuming you don't go over 30 MPH, don't drive on black top, I think they are a fantastic option. The Fast Land Truck guys showed stopping distances better with socks than winter tires.
My Model 3 LR with all seasons was not great in the snow this year, went sideways into a curb at about 5 mph once making a turn lol. No damage. I'll get winter tires next year. My old Infiniti is 10x better in snow with them.
Obviously human error can be a factor. Not suggesting that is the case here, but it could be. Did your tires have the M plus S marking?
"Gas" pedal?
you get the idea.. :)
I have Model Y AWD with OEM All Season tires. Once there is lots of snow, the difference between winter tires and all seasons can be felt. Winter tires give a lot of confidence while turning and stopping. The all seasons keeps slipping. I dont think that one chart really captures the difference. If you get a foot of snow (which happens probably 5 - 10 times each winter here), and have to take the baby to daycare 10 miles away, I don't want to take chance on a hill. There are enough fools around me with the wrong tires that make it a dangerous situation anyways.
Edit: I did watch the EE video
I agree with you. If u driving in a foot of snow, 10 times a year. Makes perfect sense. My guess is most people drive in very deep snow once in 5 years.
Get cheap winter tires on 19' rims
it will be so much better at STOPPING distance in emergency situatuion
Think I’ll just drive the Cybertruck.
@CyberTruckOne i can't wrap my mind that winter tires in USA isn't necessary especially in cold states,
cybertruck is heavier and will result in bigger stopping distance(on summer tires)
default wheels with summer tires, another wheels - winter tyres on 19, just swap it during winter and summer periods
@@RMabudabi There are only 2 states in entire USA that require winter tire standards. Colorado is one. I meet that standard. Tire tread thickness is a requirement. The CT meets that. It's also 4 wheel drive. Actually AWD, but I think the software is vasty more capable. I do actually have chains for my CT, but again, 99.9% of the time, it's perfectly fine. But the chains are there. Most people, do the best think in horrible snow and ice. They stay home.
oh my god it is awesome stuff
Buy a set of good all weather tires not to be confused with all season and call it a day
This for 95% of people out there? No. I would use these on the freeway.
I am impressed on how they work but only when you are stuck but I wouldn't use these as an alternative. Save your money and buy snow tires.
It’s amazing how many times I have to repeat the same thing on this page we’re going on like 100. My tires and set up already meet the goddamn DOT code for SNOW in Colorado. The socks are only for major emergencies. If I’m on a highway and there’s a foot of snow, I’m only driving five or 10 miles an hour. The socks will be perfect. By the way, if it’s snowing that bad just stay home.
I have driven with and without and will never drive without winter tires once the snow hits. Using other UA-cam content to justify reduced safety in slippery conditions is insane. Last thing I’m going to do on a busy highway is pull over and put on a set of socks. If you’re single, have no family, and couldn’t care less if you get into an accident - then yeah, follow this “advice”. Also, 90%+ of the population is in the city, not the mountainside where you must live. Next thing you’re going to do is suggest “don’t use prescription glasses while driving - you can get a set of $5 Walmart ones for the few times you’ll hit whatever looks blurry or fall off a cliff according to a few other UA-cam videos.”
I will say the same thing I've said on half these comments. I think you should read the pinned post at the bottom of the video. The tire set up I have, prior to doing anything, already meets Colorado DOT safety requirements. So I literally ALREADY have a car that can drive in snow. Period. It already meets the standard the only 2 states in the country have. Furthermore, the socks, also meet Colorado DOT standards. BTW. I love the 5 dollar cheaters, they are fantastic. :)
I don’t find it’s a good thing to be cheap when it comes to safety, especially if you have a family in your vehicle
I completely agree... People should follow Colorado DOT who is only 2 of 50 states with a snow tire standard... O shit, I already am..
This is the most idiotic advice i've ever heard. As a Canadian who deals with 4 months of solid winter, there is no replacement for winter tires. The mud and snow dont even cut it.
Ironically. There are only three states in the US that regulate traction. Colorado is one of them. The set up I have prior to doing anything meets that certification. The point you’re missing about the testing and my video isn’t about the tires. It’s that all wheel drive is the bigger factor. The tires I have, and suggest you should have have a snow and mud rating. My set up, with all wheel drive, is better than a front wheel drive car or a rear wheel drive car with snow tires. The socks add a back up plan that makes your car stop better than snow tires. At least that’s what the testing suggests.
You should dig a little deeper. You could have 8 wheel drive but with out proper tires, they're useless. All season tires and and the Snow and Muds you so proudly claim are great start getting hard at 45 degrees. That means they become slippery and useless, which is pretty much why the car is reacting the way it is. Real winter tires , whether they are Blizzak or Gislaved are made from rubber that stays soft and sticks to snow and ice. Your socks are a joke. And there are real world tests that show real winter tires on a 2 wheel drive are better than what you are presenting. Just buy real winter tires and stop all this promotion of misinformation. @@CyberTruckOne
Its interesting that my reply was deleted. So I'll say it again. The tires you speak of, Mud and Snow, start to get hard in temperatures of 45 degrees, making them useless in in actual winter. Dedicated snow tires are made of soft rubber that sticks to snow and ice. Its the reason the car is spinning out in the video. You can see the snow packing the treads. Thats doesn't happen with real winter tires, the soft rubber flicks the snow out. Also there are numerous studies that show 2 wheel drive cars with snow tires will out perform an all wheel drive with none. You haven't even touched on breaking performance. These socks you speak of are a useless waste of money. I feel bad that you made an ill informed video.
Its 2024 and people are still finding ways to fight off owning winter tires. Lol these socks are not for the highway or city. Its good for wilderness areas. Whos gonna stop and take off and put back on these things.
Also M and S dont mean shiit. The compound isnt soft like a true winter tire it wont grip properly and pretty much act like hockey pucks.
Also the biggest factor ever is owning a fresh pair of brand name Cooper Winter Evolution tires on sale for a cheap 400 dollars after rebate.
I think if you watch the video, I'm not suggesting otherwise. The point. Is with my set up. AWD and Snow classified tires. The car is perfectly fine, actually better than most cars as it is. The socks are for the that 1/100 situation where it's really bad or steep. And in that case, even on a highway where you are driving 4 miles an hour, it's perfectly fine. As stated, the car is already approved by Colorado DOT for route 70 mountain snow, before I ever even put the socks on.
@@CyberTruckOne ya true. Plus its quicker to put on than tire chains. And better than studs fior ease of access.
Do yourself and other drivers a favour and buy yourself winter tyres. It is all fun and games until you hit something. Europe has it mandatory and even if that was not the case... Common sense for self preservation suggests you have all four winter tyres.
There are only 2 states that mandate winter tire safety in the entire US. Colorado is one of them. If I was driving on I70 in winter and was pulled over by police for a tire safety check. MY CAR, WITH CURRENT SETUP WOULD PASS! And that’s before the socks.
@@CyberTruckOne I own a 4x4 Touareg and it is still mandatory to use winter tyres. If I travel go to Austria skiing I have to have snow chains or snow/tyre socks in my trunk, no matter if I have brand new winter tyres on my car. I live in the mountains and I wouldn't drive without proper winter tyres. Ask any person from Scandinavia, what kind of tyres are they using during the winter. It sure isn't summer or all year with socks nonsense. Great video anyhow, with good information. What I was trying to say is, that during the winter it is not optimal to drive without winter dedicated tyre.
Bro you putting your life at risk. You can get a winter set for winter or all year round.
You better call Colorado DOT. They are the ones suggesting it.
AWD won't help when you want to stop in slippery conditions.
Agreed, thats the tires. The tires are rated for snow. Is it as good as snow tires? No. They are acceptable. The socks are the added the security when things go from typical snow to blizzard.
Ooohhhh you are very wrong about not using winter tyres. And it's not more expensive, because you are using sommer tyres 7-8mounth each year, and winter tyres 4-5 months each year some if you calculate the usable time for 2 set of non season tyres, instate of use summer and winter tyres. So your conclusions is very Wrong
If I’m wrong. Why is my set already approved by Colorado DOT? Furthermore. The socks are also approved by Colorado DOT.
terrible advice
Great option if you get snow a few days a year.
As the data suggest in all wheel drive car, with all season, tires, is better prepared and capable than a front wheel or rear wheel drive car with winter tires. I didn’t do the study, I’m not the engineer, that’s what he’s saying
Winter tires are not only useful to privide traction, but they hold you on the road in general. If you need to turn or brake on compacted snow, it doesn't matter at all if you have AWD, FWD or RWD, you will loose control without having proper tires with grip.
@@FranticGuitar88 you are incorrect, and you should watch the video linked from engineering explained.
@@CyberTruckOne all cars have the same four wheel braking
snow socks are a joke. I've pulled a lot of people out of the ditch with those installed.
They may tear on dry black top. But the studies show otherwise. Why does Colorado DOT approve them?
Socks are fantastic at getting moving. Would love to see you coming down the hill under control on M+S tyres. AWD doesn’t help much then.
I’ve tried 3peak/snowflake marked all weather tyres and they are better than budget winter tyres, and no issues with premature wear or noise in summer. They would be my choice over m+S all seasons.
The socks will help tremendously on going down hill traction, acceleration and stopping.