Awesome video! I have several MN78, one MN99s, and plan on getting the MN82. All of them need upgrades to improve performance and reliability. I appreciate this information.
I remember you did a similar conversion to mn78 and it was painful. I did the same to mine and didn't enjoy it. The adapter ring makes all the difference. Thanks for sharing
Finding the right type screws to attach the 370 motor was the tough part for me. Then, I found out the 370 motor I choose was high rpm but less torque than the original 270. I have the correct wpl 370 motor coming tomorrow morning.
@@daijoubu4529 I choose the motor in this video. I finished the mod yesterday and I do not recommend it. It made my Jeep slow, and there was no noticeable additional torque.ua-cam.com/users/shortsb_FRrjOtHq4?si=yYRrra4zSASaCxqX
Does someone know the stock 280 motor RPM? From my math as per one AliExpress seller, a 6V 16500 RPM motor with the 1:35 reduction gear yield about the same speed (on the MN78), so that would translate into 8500 RPM, is that WPL motor a 6000 RPM one? Also, for the length of the shaft, does 13mm includes the step heigh? Many thanks
One more thing bro, could you tell me what is the motor driver IC on the MN82 stock ESC/receiver? I saw TA6586 on the MN9x/MN78 board, is it still the same? It's the DIP-8 chip next to the motor connector. Trying to figure out the max amp draw I can safely pull through the stock electronic (if it's the same, datasheet says 5A continuous and 7A max but may need heatsinking on the motor ouput legs)
Just received my MN82 today, ok woah they've replaced the motor driver from the MN9x boards, it used to be the TA6586 5A continuous, 7A peak with the SA8336 which can handle 7A continuous, 14A peak (if you can trust chinese datasheet), with a bottom heatsink pad, both are pin compatible but if you want to be able to heatsink it, you'll have to solder it upside down so you can stick a heatsink below lol
sir i have a question, i ordered a 370 motor(blue color back side) from aliexpress. i plugged it to my stock circuit. it does not rotate continuously. when trigger press, it start to rotate, 2 sec later stop and after 2 sec start again then again stop. it's repeating. after i checked my circuit, it's heating high. there is no circuit heating with stock motor(280). sir can you explain why?😢
Hello sir. I have a question. I have changed the motor with the metal gearbox, the ESC, even the receiver to use it in my transmitter, but I can't get it to work at anything other than a single speed and it's fast. Do you know if there's a way to configure two speeds like with the original electronics? Thanks for your videos.
Bro, the gearbox is a single speed. Maybe change the motor to a low speed or try replace the axle into a portal to make it slow and additional torque also.
Great video, thanks for the info, may I ask how you manage to push the mn82 metal pinion gear into the long shaft 370 motor? Just by brute force? Because the 370 motor for the wpl 2 speed gearbox comes with an 8-teeth pinon, not the 10-teeth pinon like in your video.
Hit it gently like using a hammer? Thanks for the tips! This helps me alot I saw the conversion kit as well and I want to give it a try after watching your video@@morrisrc
I am not so sure but I guess the modulos is 0.6. Bigger than pinion from aftermarket single speed 370 motor with reduction. I will check the details or find info and will update you.
Lastly, it just occured to me but do we need that spacer/adapter? Otherwise can't we just drill 2 holes on the plastic housing and use a more standard 10-11.5mm shaft motor?
Hi, really nice vidéo!!!! did you keep the pignon who was on the 280 motor? Sorry, last question, the link for the motor don't work, have you another link for a 370 motor for MN82 please? Thanks in advance 🙂
@@morrisrc need to run a few more test,like crawling some hills something like that just for sure.. please update later,or do adventure video outside with mn82😄😎👍..oh ya,,do you have video on how to waterproof Rc,and which one should be waterproofing..thanks
Hello and thank you again for the great guide. I've made the motor change. Motor is working fine and smooth but when I connect it with the wheels, the wheels are tugging. I've tried to turn the joint with wheels and it seems to helps but I'm not sure if it is as the original state. So I would like to ask you if am I correct that it is necessary to correctly set (turn correctly) the plastic (original) connection to the motor. Thank you very much in advance.
This is a fantastic video. Did you run the 370 off the standard electonics? Is it possible to install an esc with the standard reciever etc for the 370?
Out runner motor or the 370 brushless combo from surpass hobby will do. You can also try 370 brushed motor from dspower its just like your running brushless.
@@morrisrc thankyou po sir !hehehe newbie poko sa hobby na to hahaha kaka sali ko lang din sa fb ng mga groups regarding sa mga rc! Waiting pako sa 370 motor ko nung napanood ko to nag order nako hahaha ..tyaka goods din po ba yung mga portal axels?
Kahit hindi bro. Metal gears maingay pero matibay. Ang pag jejerk ay sa modulation ng esc board mo. Kapag magpalit ka ng magandang esc mawawala ang jerk. Or baka low batt naman kaya nag jjerk na.
Yes it is possible. Any change of gearbox need modification for mounting. This upgrade is only for stock gearbox and if you want clean underneath. If it is fine for you the gearbox hang downward you can use wpl 2speed gearbox or aftermarket. You can lift the gearbox but for sure not a good angle for your driveshaft at it will hit also to the interrior or shell.
If you will replace with 370 motor with highspeed like 21k rpm or 27k rpm you need to replace also the electronics esc and tx rx. If low speed 370 motor stock board will do.
Bro nagpalit ako motor na 370 same ng sayo. Bakit parang ayaw nya magstart umandar parang pigil sa low throttle tas pag inikot mo ng kamay dun lang sya aandar
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Не рекомендую повышать скорость данной машинки. Она предназначена для несложных прохождений по маленьким препятствиям, как автор показывает и демонстрирует на видео. В мостах нет дифференциала, который лучше подошёл бы для скорости...увы там мосты заблокированные. Можно оставить штатскую трансмиссию для покатушек или апгрейдить мотор на более мощный 370ого размера чтобы проходимость по препятствиям была более удобная.
Awesome video! I have several MN78, one MN99s, and plan on getting the MN82. All of them need upgrades to improve performance and reliability. I appreciate this information.
Yes bro. Hope they will sell it separately. Mn82 board is color red, mn78 is green.
I also measure the stock motor RPM, it's about 18k RPM at 7.4V, so the output RPM is about 1000RPM with a 1:18 reduction
My friend try to put the gearbox with dspower 370 motor 31T. More speed and hard to controll he experienced.
@@morrisrc yeah that motor too fast 30000rpm lol
Nice mod. Its even better if you do the brushless mod and all the electronic
I remember you did a similar conversion to mn78 and it was painful. I did the same to mine and didn't enjoy it. The adapter ring makes all the difference. Thanks for sharing
Hahahaha! Yes bro not so clean work on that mn78.
Finding the right type screws to attach the 370 motor was the tough part for me. Then, I found out the 370 motor I choose was high rpm but less torque than the original 270. I have the correct wpl 370 motor coming tomorrow morning.
@acroyear23 that spacer conversion kit comes with screws and a motor pinion also.
@@acroyear23 what rpm motor should we choose?
@@daijoubu4529 I choose the motor in this video. I finished the mod yesterday and I do not recommend it. It made my Jeep slow, and there was no noticeable additional torque.ua-cam.com/users/shortsb_FRrjOtHq4?si=yYRrra4zSASaCxqX
very nice explanantion. im just waiting for my mn82 to arrive.. changing the motor sure my 1st thing to do
Thanks bro
Does someone know the stock 280 motor RPM? From my math as per one AliExpress seller, a 6V 16500 RPM motor with the 1:35 reduction gear yield about the same speed (on the MN78), so that would translate into 8500 RPM, is that WPL motor a 6000 RPM one? Also, for the length of the shaft, does 13mm includes the step heigh? Many thanks
Afaik 370 motor from WPL are lower rpm than normal 370 motors at market. Under 10k rpm i suppose.
Thank you for this information. I was hoping this could be done. 👍
Thank you also bro
One more thing bro, could you tell me what is the motor driver IC on the MN82 stock ESC/receiver? I saw TA6586 on the MN9x/MN78 board, is it still the same? It's the DIP-8 chip next to the motor connector. Trying to figure out the max amp draw I can safely pull through the stock electronic (if it's the same, datasheet says 5A continuous and 7A max but may need heatsinking on the motor ouput legs)
Just found you and subscribed. Great informative videos. Thank you.
Thank you also, bro
Just received my MN82 today, ok woah they've replaced the motor driver from the MN9x boards, it used to be the TA6586 5A continuous, 7A peak with the SA8336 which can handle 7A continuous, 14A peak (if you can trust chinese datasheet), with a bottom heatsink pad, both are pin compatible but if you want to be able to heatsink it, you'll have to solder it upside down so you can stick a heatsink below lol
Thanks for the info, bro
Could you tell if the plastic gearbox case is good? Is it reliable? I need this gearbox for a custom project without any extra weight
Yes, i don't also like heavy rigs.
sir i have a question, i ordered a 370 motor(blue color back side) from aliexpress. i plugged it to my stock circuit. it does not rotate continuously. when trigger press, it start to rotate, 2 sec later stop and after 2 sec start again then again stop. it's repeating. after i checked my circuit, it's heating high. there is no circuit heating with stock motor(280). sir can you explain why?😢
Your motor is high speed you need to change your esc also.
@morrisrc thank you sir
Hello sir.
I have a question.
I have changed the motor with the metal gearbox, the ESC, even the receiver to use it in my transmitter, but I can't get it to work at anything other than a single speed and it's fast. Do you know if there's a way to configure two speeds like with the original electronics?
Thanks for your videos.
Bro, the gearbox is a single speed. Maybe change the motor to a low speed or try replace the axle into a portal to make it slow and additional torque also.
Great video, thanks for the info, may I ask how you manage to push the mn82 metal pinion gear into the long shaft 370 motor? Just by brute force? Because the 370 motor for the wpl 2 speed gearbox comes with an 8-teeth pinon, not the 10-teeth pinon like in your video.
The spacer or conversion kit comes with pinion gear. I just hit it gently. For removing I have a tool, pinion gear remover.
Hit it gently like using a hammer? Thanks for the tips! This helps me alot I saw the conversion kit as well and I want to give it a try after watching your video@@morrisrc
Yes bro gently. I use small mallet.
Very cool! What's the approximate top speed (with stock motor) of this pickup? Can it go up to 10 km/h?
Hello. Can you please provide me a link for a 370 motor with long shaft. Couldn't find it.
Thanks
Hello bro, from where country you are? I am from philippines we buy parts at shopee and lazada. I will try to find, do you have bangood?
@@morrisrc I am from Portugal. I like AliExpress. Thanks
@@Bruno_Cerqueira25 I ordered this cheap one to try, 16mm shaft, medium speed 28.5k rpm
The MN82 has a steel mod .6 motor pinion?
I am not so sure but I guess the modulos is 0.6. Bigger than pinion from aftermarket single speed 370 motor with reduction. I will check the details or find info and will update you.
Lastly, it just occured to me but do we need that spacer/adapter? Otherwise can't we just drill 2 holes on the plastic housing and use a more standard 10-11.5mm shaft motor?
Is the top speed any faster or slower with the 370 installed? Thank you!
Slower and more controllable
Hi,
really nice vidéo!!!!
did you keep the pignon who was on the 280 motor?
Sorry, last question, the link for the motor don't work, have you another link for a 370 motor for MN82 please?
Thanks in advance 🙂
Hello bro
The conversion kit comes with a pinion gear.
Here is the new link and it is much better with 21000rpm.
s.shopee.ph/5pmpMBu7KV
@@morrisrc Many thanks!!!
Excellent work..!
Thanks bro
People say,if i want to change the motor,i need to change the esc too..is that true?
For me no need to change the esc. And I think the board is more compatible with 370 motor. My mn82 now run smoother.
@@morrisrc need to run a few more test,like crawling some hills something like that just for sure.. please update later,or do adventure video outside with mn82😄😎👍..oh ya,,do you have video on how to waterproof Rc,and which one should be waterproofing..thanks
Ok bro I will update you.
Higher speed motor needs more current, would be interesting to measure the 280 motor with no load and when stalled and compare that to the 370 series
Hello and thank you again for the great guide. I've made the motor change. Motor is working fine and smooth but when I connect it with the wheels, the wheels are tugging. I've tried to turn the joint with wheels and it seems to helps but I'm not sure if it is as the original state. So I would like to ask you if am I correct that it is necessary to correctly set (turn correctly) the plastic (original) connection to the motor. Thank you very much in advance.
Tiene la electrónica de fábrica?? Yo le puse un motor 370 y no me va bien no se porque??
Nice conversion on motor to gain more power or to ran smoothly?? Did you change also the ESC or your still using the original
Still stock board bro. Now I change the motor same 370 but high rpm. 21000rpm 370 motor much better more speed, replace it just a while ago.
Hello mate.. i just want to ask about the 370 motor? Do i need to change esc and even tx rx? Or its only plug and play??
If your 370 motor is high speed you need to change the esc. 21000 rpm above is high speed motor.
Where did you get the adapter plate?
Shopee, ecommerce in the philippines.
Nice 👍 is it possible to increase the signal range/ control range of mn82 ?
None bro for stock electronics
What is mn82 stock motor shaft size? Is it 2 mm?
I guess its 2mm or 2.2mm. Same as 370 motor.
can i do this upgrade in wpll c24 wiithoutu changing electronics? or changing metal axle and rods in to metal?
No bro they are not the same gearbox with wpl c24.
Are you used motor from the link?
How long his shaft is ?
Yes, 11mm
@@morrisrc thanks. Can I use 10mm shaft,or it will too short?
Half of the pinion gear the shaft fit. Try it bro I guess its possible.
This is a fantastic video. Did you run the 370 off the standard electonics?
Is it possible to install an esc with the standard reciever etc for the 370?
Yes 370 motor in a stock board.
No, if you change esc you need a new tx rx also.
How many rpm does a 370 motor use? I want the same rpm as yours.
Hello bro, I am not sure there is no details from the seller. But I guess this is lower than 20k rpm
Any brushless motor fit in mn82?
Out runner motor or the 370 brushless combo from surpass hobby will do.
You can also try 370 brushed motor from dspower its just like your running brushless.
What type of plug bro are you using for mn82?
The ones connected from the motor
In the video it's a white jst. But I recommend bullet connector so it is easy to switch the wires.
need pa ba re-solder?
Sa connector o wire ng motor
@@morrisrc thanks paps!
Welcome bro
Hey bro, please new link for the motor. It's unavailable
Bro, here is the link and this is much better 21000 rpm.
s.shopee.ph/4KxmGDwbSk
@@morrisrc thanks
with the motor upgrade, how much does it last the original battery?
Mayabe around 20 to 30 mins comtinous trailing but not pressing full throttle all the time.
Very well done 👍
Thank you
Thank you also, bro 👊
Salamat po.. im new to this. Unang upgrade ko to
Welcome bro thank you also
@@morrisrc kahit stock yung board nya goods po yung 270?
Yes bro maganda ang bagong board ni mn82 smooth sa kanya ang 370 motor. Pwede ka direct pm sakin sa messenger if ever may mga tanong ka.
@@morrisrc thankyou po sir !hehehe newbie poko sa hobby na to hahaha kaka sali ko lang din sa fb ng mga groups regarding sa mga rc! Waiting pako sa 370 motor ko nung napanood ko to nag order nako hahaha ..tyaka goods din po ba yung mga portal axels?
Goods naman ang portal kaso mas wide sya ng 5mm at madagdagan ng 10mm ang clearance ng wheels from fender.
Bro will it be fine if my gears stay plastic other than metal?
Yes bro. Metal gears are so loud hehehehe!
What I have to do to make my MN82 more faster and more smoother than stock? 😉
Replace 370 highspeed motor and esc like hobby wing 1060
Good upgrade
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Thanks bro
Applicable po sa MN99s? planning to upgrade the motor. newbie here. thanks po
No bro. Sa susunod na buwan mag rerelease si mn99 na pangilalim tingin ko un ung magandang upgrade.
@@morrisrc maraming salamat po. sayang kakabili lang 😁
Welcome bro
Question lang sir kelangan din ba upgrade into metal gear ito? Nag jejerk kasi sya sa low speed and sometimes high speed all stock esc
Kahit hindi bro. Metal gears maingay pero matibay. Ang pag jejerk ay sa modulation ng esc board mo. Kapag magpalit ka ng magandang esc mawawala ang jerk. Or baka low batt naman kaya nag jjerk na.
Same pdn sir kahit na full charge ko na ung battery. Binalik ko ulit sa 280 motor umok na ulit sya. Ginaya ko lang din setup mo sir
Need mo na mataas na esc bro.
@@morrisrc ano po recommend mo sir na esc new lang po kasi so hobby
@GerwinOng-g2l bro, pm moko sa fb messenger.
Good video...nice infomation...👍👍👍
Thanks bro
Hi bro do you use 370 motor with high rpm o low?
I don't use high rpm motor only for a gear reduction with high gear ratio like in an aftermarket single speed.
@@morrisrc thanks bro 👍👍👍
Bro, but still up to you if you want more speed. For a crawler or trail rc I want a slow and controllable.
You can get a 370 motor with a 2 speed gearbox and driveshafts so why not just install that ?
Yes it is possible. Any change of gearbox need modification for mounting. This upgrade is only for stock gearbox and if you want clean underneath. If it is fine for you the gearbox hang downward you can use wpl 2speed gearbox or aftermarket. You can lift the gearbox but for sure not a good angle for your driveshaft at it will hit also to the interrior or shell.
@@morrisrc Tks
Welcome bro
Ok sir salamat po ung nabibili po ba sa shopee na 30a pasok na po ba un
Yes pasok un bro
Qual melhor motor pra MN 82?
If you will replace with 370 motor with highspeed like 21k rpm or 27k rpm you need to replace also the electronics esc and tx rx. If low speed 370 motor stock board will do.
Bro nagpalit ako motor na 370 same ng sayo. Bakit parang ayaw nya magstart umandar parang pigil sa low throttle tas pag inikot mo ng kamay dun lang sya aandar
Maayos ba pagkalagay ng pinion gear? Di ba naalog ung loob ng motor nung pagkabit mo ng pinion gear?
Check ko din sir pero plug and play lang ba normally ang 370 motor sa stock esc nya?
Sir na check ko. naalog nga pagkabit ko ng pinion gear may effect ba un?
Yes bro kasi di na sya center sa magnet
Sana bro un lang nga salamat sa infos! Baka may link ka sa shoppee ng maorderan ng 370 motor need ko hehehe hirap humanap ng long shaft e hehehe
Nice video sir
Thanks bro
I tried 2 different 370 motor on my MN82 but unfortunately it doesnt accelerate properly again put the 280 back in place 😶
There is an aftermarket 370 motor with pinion, 21k rpm and 27k rpm to choose from.
@morrisrc tried still same problem i dont understand i tried 21k rpm last week same
@@morrisrc do u have aliexpress link to send me ? Coz i can buy there im in uae
Watching from Coron! Haha.
Enjoy bro and ingat!
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Добрый день! Ваше творчество вызывает восхищение.
Хочу узнать ваши рекомендации по повышению скорости модели помимо установки двухступенчатой коробки ппредач
Не рекомендую повышать скорость данной машинки. Она предназначена для несложных прохождений по маленьким препятствиям, как автор показывает и демонстрирует на видео. В мостах нет дифференциала, который лучше подошёл бы для скорости...увы там мосты заблокированные. Можно оставить штатскую трансмиссию для покатушек или апгрейдить мотор на более мощный 370ого размера чтобы проходимость по препятствиям была более удобная.
Bro, I agree with @idworkhard and beside more speed low torque.
Nag palit ka den ba sir ng esc?
Hindi bro kasi low speed ung 370 motor ko. Nung nagpalit ulit ako ng 370 pero highspeed o mataas ang rpm nagreteset na sya sa stock board.
Aba nagbabalik na talaga sya!
Hahahaha! Sinipagsipag ng kunti, pre. Nagpupuyat ka nanaman jan hehe!
Great video
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Iz it fine to upgrade all parts with metal with a stock motor?
Yes bro, but a little bit stress to the motor.
Question lang sir kelangan din ba upgrade into metal gear ito? Nag jejerk kasi sya sa low speed and sometimes high speed all stock esc
Kahit hindi metal gears nro ok lng naman.