Chris, the Cade media podcast is way different. Sometimes I think they're still searching for an identity. Francis is rarely there, Jimmie plays host yet Emily appears to be doing a ton of leg work without being recognized. Their subject matter is more British centric whereas yours doesn't hit hard with the local Aussie scene yet it's giving a world scene through the eyes of UA-cam with an Aussie flavor. Schedule your show for whenever it's convenient for you guys IMO. You two work well together and your content hasn't gotten old yet.
Jesse welcome to the masses, a world in which we have jobs, parenting responsibilities, carer responsibilities, home maintenance, relationships and cycling is a recreational pursuit even if it’s take seriously and is an obsession. Not everyone can ride in the front group my friend
Dont forgot MVDP agreed to do a triathlon with Average Rob. So it will be literally all Canyons range that he will promote. Not any old triathlon but an Ironman. Go MVDP 🎉
Materials engineer here. The higher stiffer grade carbon is more brittle. In most engineering applications it's balancing act. You can have something extremely stiff but then you run the risk of cracking easier or you can be extremely flexible and resilient. This is the case in metals too. You can make steel extremely extremely stiff through various heat treatment methods but then it will crack very easily.
@@jameseastwood402 You are right that those two are also contributors, but higher modulus carbon is stiffer, which allows manufacturers to make lighter frames with it because they are able to use less carbon in certain areas, or modify the layup because those properties. Ultimately, all 3 of those things work together to determine the feel and the properties of the bike. But stiffer material is by nature, more brittle, and that stiffer, higher modulus material is required to make the stiffer frames. Or lighter frames of the same stiffness because a stiffer material means you can use less of it. (Not a materials engineer, but also work in mechanical engineering)
@@adamjd7645 I don't think they are making excuses for failed parts or failed rims, but Chris and Jessie were discussing whether or not high modulus carbon is more or less fragile, and they are just letting them know that yes, absolutely a stiffer lighter material will be more fragile if say, dropped at the coffee shop. There is no excuse for using inappropriate materials in say, a rim. But when a bike gets stiffer and lighter it DOES inherently become more brittle than previous versions. Things like layup can mitigate that but ultimately its pure physics and there is no way around it. And so the poster wasn't excusing that, just explaining that this will always be the nature of that relationship.
On the hugs. They’re literally mates. Pogi literally mentions Matthews in interviews (sigma sport) saying - “Matthews bought me this present( his vinyl player), he’s my mate etc”
Did he literally buy him that vinyl player though? Not saying it was a lie or he’d want to convince the public if something that’s not true, but there’s something about that situation that seems figurative
MvP is the poster boy for 3 Canyon bikes for different events: the Inflite cx bike, the Aeroroad & the Lux mtb. He wins on each bike. So it's like sponsoring 3 riders and with the crossover, he might widen the market for each bike. If you are say a roadie he might encourage you into wanting to try cross or XC racing. He has already done some gravel, so that could well be an extension of his marketing power in the future - though at the 1st gravel worlds he used a road bike.
As for the niceness if it translated in to less competitive racing then maybe , however, pros are suggesting it's less nice with more attacks and less respect given etc. When I played Cricket there was a lot around playing hard on the pitch but sitting down and having a drink together after the match. You could have all kinds of abuse hurled at you and then have a drink & a laught after the match.
For a new-ish road rider in the states MvP put Canyon on the radar for me and I was going to buy a Canyon but couldn't find one in stock for 6 months. You put him in the Lifetime GP with the marketing he has on the road and the bikes will sell.
I bought my Canyon after selling my Trek which was the wrong size. I’m very happy with the bike but have heard bad reviews and disparaging remarks about canyon quality. Personally, the Canyon was much smoother than the Trek, and if multiple world champions rode Canyons, even better!
Chris, what you "know" is obviously wrong. Pog and Matthews have been Monaco training friends for many years. And Pog and Philipsen have photos together all over social media, so clearly Pog is friends with both of them.
And a handful of years ago, shortly before his untimely death in a dune buggy accident, long-retired American superstar motocross rider Marty Smith said in an interview about his '76 season with Honda on the European circuit that along the way he became friends with riders about whom he had heard were not so friendly. And turns out, they got along well, just other young guys who rode their dirt bikes fast and wanted to win for their sponsors and nations.
Completely not my point, I was saying not everyone in the peloton is as “matesy” as people will have you believe. Go back to last year’s tour and tell me the sprinters were stoked with the way Philipsen was sprinting (which is a good thing, rivalry’s are good)
Fair enough, but you said it immediately after you made the argument that Pog is strategically fake-nice in hopes it will benefit him... (which doesn't make much sense, the only time Pog needs help is when Jonas "little man goes fast" Vingegaard drops the bomb... and in that situation literally nobody can help you). Anyway all good@@ChrisMillerCycling
I think Pogi is genuinely impressed when other people beat him. Must get kinda boring to always be so dominant. He’s a competitor and likes to see other people put up a good fight.
One has to say too: pogi CAN be more serious. When he's losing the tour or after a long hard season in il Lombardia, I feel like he's always respectful but not as joyish. Right now he's starting into a new season fresh, he's winning 9/10 things he looks at. I think he simply is in a good mood and if someone had challenged him on the fourth Catalunya Stage after winning all the other ones would be have been phased by that? Prob not...
Pogi and Philipsen are close friends from 2019 when they started at UAE. Mathews is neighbour of Pogi in Monaco, he is also lending Pogi parking space for his sports car in his garage. So anybody expected that they will look angry at each other on podium? Don't see how they were faking it....
When people say “I’m getting in to road cycling what bike do I get?” I point them to a used endurance carbon bike in their size. Like a Defy or Roubaix or Domane. Probably 105 or whatever is a good deal. Leave them money to buy nice tires and a comfortable saddle.
Regarding the hookless tire blowoff, the rim was only cracked. If there was a complete collapse of the rim, then the tire would likely disengage, whether hooked or hookless. With this cracked rim, the tire would likely stay on if it was a hooked system. The impact blew the tire off of the hookless rim and also cracked the rim. The crack did not directly cause the blowoff.
I was going to say this as well; I suspect hooks would have helped the tire stay on the cracked rim better, and maybe allow the rider to come to a better-controlled stop. Still don't see what benefit hookless is supposed to provide, other than a manufacturing cost decrease (revenue increase) for manufacturers.
@jeffvalore5010 semantics, but it would only increase Zipp's margin, not revenue / sales... ironically, I'd assume the hookless drama is damaging Zipp's sales
No, 28mm is fine according to Zipp’s own website. Haven’t seen anywhere what pressure he was riding. In any case a 1mm tolerance is stupid. Tyres bulge out more than that depending on the rim type so do you go by the factory claimed width or do you need clippers every time you try a new tyre? Too complicated and unnecessary - I just want to ride my bike.
Cross discipline pros are probably just the guys that love riding, no matter the bike or style. I'm no pro, but I love racing and riding, and I race road bikes, cyclocross, and downhill mountain bikes. You can be great in all disciplines.
Regarding "Podium Love In" - It seems like there is an assumption that aggression and personal distaste for your competitors gives you the highest competitive advantage, channeling the aggression into motivation to push hard on the bike. That can be true for many, but I feel like it's not true for everyone. For some people, a more playful attitude reduces pressure and allows for the right flow state of great performance. The mental states of high performers are diverse.
Pogi and philipsen were team mates and friends. They drove down there together and pogi and Mathews are also really good friends and train together regularly. So it does explain why they were so friendly
I dont get why competitors cant respect other adversaries. Sounds like what Jessie and..other guy (sorry) want is antagonists. And that falls squarely into the domain of old school thinking. You don't have to hate your competitor to compete against them with everything you have. It's just such a stupid concept. We want them to be less cordial becuase it's more entertaining? Go watch reality tv if you want drama. Cycling and sports should be about just being the best on the field. That's it.
I didn't mind having both podcasts pop up on Thursday. But it's also nice having them separated by a day. Either way, both typically get watched within a couple hours of dropping. Having them in the same was fun because I could compare different takes on the same topics.
I prefer this pod over the Cade one. By a wide margin. Can't explain why other than I just like the Aussie accents and personalities more. It also helps that the chemistry between you two is feels better. Again, can't really explain it, but there's some x-factor that makes this pod much nicer than Cade's and why I look forward to this every week.
And these guys actually talk about relevant subjects, whereas the new Cade just wants affiliated links, sponsors, and a few unoriginal talking points that have already been discussed elsewhere. I do love anything bike fit, though.
was going to post similar - cade should be more relevant to me, but i skip a lot of their content and enjoy the guys banter much more even though often irrelevant to me (my FTP being only around 300w :) ). listenting to the questions being sent in, i think the guys should realise people like me are probably a fair chunk of the audience. that said, i am australian in the UK, and probably just miss no BS australian chat...
@@IsaacAdler That's how I feel too. They don't really bring anything to the table that makes it worth listening to...except James the bike fit guy, he actually has really interesting expertise.
VDP's deal reminds me of Ted King and Cannondale. I don't know if King has an actual contract with them but he continues to ride their goods. It really seems like a win-win for both parties.
The only other long-term bike partnership I can recall is Jalabert and LOOK, even after his retirement, but the MvP deal is next level. Another entertaining episode, thanks fellas!
Your show is the one I watch every week without fail in its entirety, the Cade Media one I watch after running out of other stuff, and even then I'll probably only pick the odd section to skip to. So in that regard, I don't think it matters too much which day they both come out on.
Na, I love that some of the best guys are good friends! It makes them more endearing and more heroic characters. It's a good look for the sport. They race hard and make it look fun too ❤️
That's not what Pog is about though. He just loves riding his bike. He's buzzing even if he doesn't win. There's lots of different personalities, that's sport. I'd rather my kids are inspired by Pog tbh.
I think Dylan Van Baarle would say Pog isn't always so friendly at the finish line(RVV 2022).. think that's what Pog is really like on the bus and his PR team have told him to cut it out on camera
Only time I have ever cracked a carbon rim was thankfully on tubulars. Rim was only 30mm deep, but completely split in 2. Hit the edge of a lowered drain which sat about 3cm below the road level. Was doing 42kph on tribars training for a tt. Thankfully the tub stayed on the rim and miraculously I didn't fall off or puncture. This was 4 years ago. Something to be said about old technology. Oh, and I listen to both you and Cade media, as you offer slightly different things, but very helpful on the turbo.
There is no other rider that can generate the interest MVDP can, from MTB, Gravel,Cross and road he covers it all. Zwift, Oakley, Canyon benefited and will continue to benefit. Does help selling bikes
Definitely room for both Cade and Nero. I follow you both but for different reasons. I do not feel that your are really competing with one another. That being said, I watch both podcasts on the turbo trainer and the fact that they are released on different days is awesome. Keep up the great work, still waiting for Hambini 🤣
Re biketuber reviews, I really appreciate how Path Less Pedalled goes into the geometry which quantifies, to a limited extent at least, how a bike will handle and fit. It's not the full picture, but I've found it super helpful in shopping for frames. Understanding frame geometry makes comparing different frames A LOT easier even without riding every one.
I've been through (what I consider to be, personally) an interesting journey from being a fairly obsessive cyclist and racer (albeit not a great one) to becoming a dad and having very little time to train or race. My first goal, after having a few years completely off the bike, was to get back into 5-6 hours of training a week (in my lunch breaks mainly) and see, firstly, if I could survive an A grade crit, which was the main type of racing I used to do. Then I tried to advance from there. It's been humbling, but has also been great to get back into that scene, for the competitive outlet and for the social aspect, as I tend not to be able to do any bunch rides. There have been some successes and failures, based on my own benchmarks I've set myself, but all in all, it's been a lot of fun.
Another great episode gents, I watch both podcasts and whilst there are some similar topics both are interesting to watch in their own right I’m from uk so started watching Cade first and love his multi day trips on the bike Would be brilliant to see you guys try one
You guys and LRCP are best cycling podcasts. Also GTCC and Path Less Pedaled. To me all I care about is the authenticity and so many youtubers are not authentic.
Agree, Decathlon did fantastic with the Van Rysel brand to design and produce high quality bikes at affordable prices and then destroy their image with an horrible looking kit! 😖
I wouldn’t be bothered about cade media. They just seem to be coping whatever gcn do, but low budget. Your channel is a leader in this type & have a much better demographic. Carry on just as are you are…
Depends where you live. Cade media is much more appealing than Nero to a certain type of British audience, with its greater level of mickey-taking, childishness and lack of earnestness. These things go down a treat in the UK. Australia is sort of in between the UK and the US in this regard, so not a completely alien and offputting viewing experience for Brits.
Completely agree that Cade and Nero are different audiences. As someone who used to watch Cade, I think theirs is a far more aimed at a casual cyclist whereas I think Nero is aimed at a more serious (obsessive) cyclist. Not hating on Cade, I think they put together a really good product for their market, but I just found the discussions quite shallow and a bit too lay-person orientated.
You have so may examples of this in cycling already, latter one, maybe Peter Sagan going to bora, they had to ride specialized, then going to total energies, the same happened. It's a normal thing for the biggest riders in the world
De Gendt also had a tire insert, which would also reduce the impact of riding over a rock. Something's fishy. Also, do you guys control the number of ad breaks? It seems there's an ad break every 3-4 minutes in this episode.
These inserts doesn't work like that in road tires, only on mtb tires. On road tires they just let you ride along when the tire is flat, that's all, they're not wide enough to protect the rimwall from any rocks.
16:27 Pogi is the biggest name in cycling and even he is not nearly as marketable as MVDP. His persona coupled with being a multiple time World Champion across 3 discipline is unmatched. There are a lot of guys with talent or personality but very few with both. Canyon is smart to give him whatever he wants for as long as he wants.
I listen to both Cade and yourself. I have one for the journey to and from work on the Thursday and then one for the gym on Friday! The issue is the rest of the week 🤣
Hi fellas, I'm not happy with your Trek shaming, Trek is booming in Canberra where I live. It is the dominant bike brand here with Trek bikes seen everywhere from your commuter to top level NRS riders. There are 3 stores which are flat out and offer fantastic customer service. The other thing which is not as well noticed is they support the local club scene by both sponsoring and volunteering at races. Trek is also a massive supporter to junior cycling in the region sponsoring local riders and teams. Thanks for the podcast, you guys are doing a fantastic job, keep it up!
I’m with you guys, I’m calling BS re the Zipp explanation. I had a dispute with them a while ago as they stated that their Zipp engineers did not consider that the Carbon hookless wheels of their’s I had did not require drain holes, I then asked them how do I get all the water out of the fairings that ingress when I go through a creek/puddle/river crossing or even wash my bike. They told me to remove the tyre and tubeless valve and drain the water from the rim that way!! WTF (I have their response in an email). Guess what, the version 2 of that rim which was marketed as a gravel rim had drain holes. Zipp are questionable at best if you ask me!! Great episode, keep them going. 👍🏻
Feels like you are both aware of the froth around US gravel scene but maybe not as appreciative of it, as you are outside the bubble. Seems like we need a US trip where you do an event somewhere with VC, Pillar Performance supported, on a Cervelo Aspero? Cant wait to see MVP in the U.S. selling gravel bikes.
I feel like there's just a great gravel network in the US. You can ride gravel for hours and hours on well maintained trails where I'm at. Is it the same in other countries?
@wertacus Plenty of roads like these in Central West NSW. Check also the Central West Cycle Trail. Northern Vic has rail trails around Bright, the King Valley. Northern NSW and SE QLD too.
I don't think there is an alterior motive to Pogacar's behavior. I think this is just who he is. Personally, I like the fact he can be competitive, dominate races and still have a good time and congratulate others afterwards. It's nice to see from my perspective.
I hit a mound of rocks that fell off the back of a landscaping truck on McCarrs creek rd with my Giant SLR1 hookless rims @ 45kph & the tyre blew off & entangled itself around the rim bringing me down as I could no longer steer the front wheel. I think one of the major issues with hookless rims is tyre pressure & tyre width is key. 25mm tyres on hookless rims should be avoided at all costs due to the higher psi. The fact Giant sold their road bikes with 25mm tyres for their hookless rims I think was negligent to say the least. Also the relationship between the rim inner width & tyre width is very important. I now ride on 28mm tyres with the 19.4mm inner width Giant rims & so far the rims have been bomb proof.
Would love to see MVDP or WVA participating in more of the premier level off road races. Cross is cool, but doesn't have the Xfactor of an 8-10 hour gravel race.
Events: At 30 started doing events and already had 3kids by then. I've never had more than 8hrs to train etc etc. So of course I'm nowhere near the front in mass start events/races. Usually ~3rd group. But I like to see how well I can do on those 6 to 8hrs training a week. And see if I can beat my previous placing and time PB's etc. And that's the challenge. And I really enjoy it.
Lance had an individual contact with Trek. Not sure of the exact terms, but he was in a position to only individually benefit, but to also drive the direction of changes to the bikes he was racing.
JC, I'd suggest training and riding a race with a friend to help him/her complete a goal. I'm a competitive runner and usually I focus entirely on myself during training blocks. However, I recently paced a friend of mine to his first sub-3 hour marathon, and it was one of the most enjoyable and memorable things I've done. Maybe you would find some enjoyment doing the cycling equivalent! Love the show guys!
On Pogacar. It’s called having high EQ. What is the point of blaming your teammate? He knows he’s strong enough to win GC anyways… And on that point, why are you advocating toxicity in the peloton? Being a leader and face of a sport, you want to show sportsmanship and set a good example for future generations of competitors . It also helps set a good culture not only inside the pro peloton, but also around the whole sport. Not a toxic competitive environment.
Liners protect against rocks in mountain bikes - their only use in a road bike is to allow a cyclist to keep riding on a flat tyre while the team car catches up.
Pogi is either a genuinely likeable guy or a master manipulator. My favourite recent moment of Pogi was during his interview with Matt Stephens were he asked a fan asking for a photo to not lean his bike on a rock wall.
This happened to me last year on a group ride with my 404 Firecrest Tubeless. I was going at a good pace and we crossed a railroad track. A chunk of road was missing parallel to the rails and I was able to lift the front wheel quickly, but the rear wheel hit the hole hard!! The tubeless Conti 5000 28mm S TR Tire stayed on, but I was losing pressure slowly. I was able to make it home which was 15-20 miles from home. When I got home I took the tire off and the rim was cracked across the rim bed. I was surprised it wasn't worse actually. All situations are different, but I can't really fault their wheel for this. They replaced my rear wheel without question.
As much as people give ENVE and Zipp crap for the cost vs quality of their wheels, they stand by them. Any issues come up, they'll just replace it. I know Hambini often reams on Zipp for the quality of their hubs, but many SRAM/Zipp dealers will service them for free.
Well... I go to events for fun... because I'll never be able to compete for the front... What's nice about going to events for fun: I can go somewhere on closed roads... I'll still prepare as good as possible, even though I'm lacking time to do proper training... so I just go there for shit and giggles... and enjoy the atmosphere and ... going somewhere without cars, where I normally wouldn't be able to go... Chris explained it really well at the descent the other weeks... You feel like a pro if the roads are closed and you can use up parts of the road you normally couldn't
Has that rim cracked after the tyre blew off and then impacted directly onto the hard tarmac , causing the crack🤔 So, the cracked rim being a result of the blow off, not the cause?
- I've cracked a carbon rim without puncturing the tire twice (tubular on a road bike and on my MTB) it's not unheard of. - It's cute how much Jesse thinks the brands do robust stress testing on all their products (Zipp probably was able to prove that their product consistently passes the UCI requirement which are silly low and then pumps out the production)
I vaguely remember reading that MvdP was one of the founders of what is now Alpecin-Deceuninck along with the Roodhooft brothers. And is or was a partial owner of the team. All this to say I don't see him ever leaving that team until he retires. And in the unlikely situation where he was going to leave the team, I see it like a Sagan situation where he has enough leverage that whatever team he goes to will ride Canyon. I don't think it would be unheard of for Canyon to just follow him to whatever team he chooses.
I did Peaks this year just for fun! Wasn’t fastest time but was a good experience hadn’t riden for 4 weeks prior due to travel overseas but would do it all again.
Why are the Pros crossing disciplines? Maybe, because the sponsors tell them to do so, but its also super fun. Like, ive been ridden my roadbike für 25.000km in 2 years and i started to get bored by the streets. At some point you know everything that is ridable 100km around you. Then i bought myself a gravelbike and damn it opens a new world for me. So much more ways to try etc. And now I am also riding MTBs because riding downhills on a MTB is so much more fun then doing it on a gravel bike, plus it gives you better bike handling skills by doing so, even on the road. I think those pros do it also for fun, just like MVDP and other Pros are doing CX Races. Its just pure fun
Below average rider here who does long rides 5 to 8 hours. I'm small guy 165cm but on the heavy side 67kg. I average 145w during my 8 hours ride so I'm not fast. This been said from my personal experience, marginal gains (aero helmet, aero kits, etc) made me gain free speed. By just changing the helmet to an aero one gained 2kph... So i think that marginal gains and weight matter more for average or below average rider because going quicker even at relatively slower speed 20 - 27kph requires significantly more effort so everything that can help is welcome. On the contrary, a strong rider can easily overcome additional 2 or 5 kg weight penalty on a hilly corse from effort perspective and ofc not from racing perspective. A stronger rider can easily average above 35kph with or without marginal aero gains. It would really be nice to dive deeper into this subject in future podcast
maybe the first time ever I've disagreed with you lads, I think they'd kill each other in the race to win but when the race is over it's over. I think it's great they display sportsmanship after the race.
Agreed. MVP to ride all the bikes in all the events as for Tyler . PS On the first day, God created the Nero Show, and he saw that it was good…. But when on the 100th day others had followed… but fallen short … God slapped a cease and desist on them …. 😊
Is Jesse's camera recording at a lower framerate? It's been bothering me for a while now. The discrepancy between quality and smoothness between the two camera pans.
Pogi can be chilled, cause he knows he’ll win the overall anyway and the guy is not a thread. And San Remo was a training ride, so he also didn’t really care
What about Chris Froome? Built his career riding Pinarello bikes. Suddenly he is not preforming, moves to another team where he changes bike brands then gets even worse and starts blaming the bike on social media and now seems to be gone. Something similar has to happen here with MVP because 10 years is a long time to be at top level.
Cade Media are not your competitors your way better however Escape Collective are going to the line with you guys. Great Show look forward to it every week.
100% pogi would be a great spokesman and get a mvdp like deal. He wins one days, and then we expect him to win grand tours. So many people only watch the tour. Great personality too, not too silly, but fun and a beast. Beyond not deep pockets I always thought campagnolo should lock down pogi as an athlete. When he won the tour so young, perfect person to usher campy in with the new generation. They have such racing heritage (used to!)
In Jourdain s recent video titled "The Difference Between GOOD and BAD Carbon Fiber Bike Frames" the carbon repair expert praises canyon for making paper thin tubes that break like matches. He straight up says it's bringing him lots of business. I want my frame to be built like a tank, I'm 83kg and I want to throw the bike in the car, then another bike, then another, and not worry that a chain stay will snap in transit
My last generation TCR ADV SL got crashed into a motobike during downhill..the whole bike goes front roll while I land, cheek first on the tarmac…miraculously, the only damage I experienced is to the right brake level…the frame and wheels manage to go unscathed.. . As for bike review, I just need to tick some box: Major trusted brand, specs, good service, that’s it
Jesse wanting Pogi and other pros to be arseholes to each other says a lot more about who Jesse is as a person and less about who Pogi, Blind and other are
I have never seen any testing on behalf of the foam inserts as they relate to impacts. Theoretically the air will allow more dimpling in a tire upon impact, so if you have less volume of air in the tire because mass of the insert - does the insert absorb the force of the hit--or does it compress all the force directly into the rim?
Chris, the Cade media podcast is way different. Sometimes I think they're still searching for an identity. Francis is rarely there, Jimmie plays host yet Emily appears to be doing a ton of leg work without being recognized. Their subject matter is more British centric whereas yours doesn't hit hard with the local Aussie scene yet it's giving a world scene through the eyes of UA-cam with an Aussie flavor.
Schedule your show for whenever it's convenient for you guys IMO. You two work well together and your content hasn't gotten old yet.
Yeah, Emily is the most insightful of the bunch. She's smart.
Jesse welcome to the masses, a world in which we have jobs, parenting responsibilities, carer responsibilities, home maintenance, relationships and cycling is a recreational pursuit even if it’s take seriously and is an obsession. Not everyone can ride in the front group my friend
Dont forgot MVDP agreed to do a triathlon with Average Rob. So it will be literally all Canyons range that he will promote. Not any old triathlon but an Ironman. Go MVDP 🎉
Materials engineer here. The higher stiffer grade carbon is more brittle. In most engineering applications it's balancing act. You can have something extremely stiff but then you run the risk of cracking easier or you can be extremely flexible and resilient. This is the case in metals too. You can make steel extremely extremely stiff through various heat treatment methods but then it will crack very easily.
Doesn't layup and quantity determine stiffness rather than carbon 'grade?'
@@jameseastwood402 You are right that those two are also contributors, but higher modulus carbon is stiffer, which allows manufacturers to make lighter frames with it because they are able to use less carbon in certain areas, or modify the layup because those properties. Ultimately, all 3 of those things work together to determine the feel and the properties of the bike.
But stiffer material is by nature, more brittle, and that stiffer, higher modulus material is required to make the stiffer frames. Or lighter frames of the same stiffness because a stiffer material means you can use less of it.
(Not a materials engineer, but also work in mechanical engineering)
That's where the resin comes in. There's no excuse for it.
@@adamjd7645 yep. That's what I'm getting at. I'm pretty confident the cracked rim happened after the tyre blew off. Awaiting evidence otherwise.
@@adamjd7645 I don't think they are making excuses for failed parts or failed rims, but Chris and Jessie were discussing whether or not high modulus carbon is more or less fragile, and they are just letting them know that yes, absolutely a stiffer lighter material will be more fragile if say, dropped at the coffee shop.
There is no excuse for using inappropriate materials in say, a rim. But when a bike gets stiffer and lighter it DOES inherently become more brittle than previous versions. Things like layup can mitigate that but ultimately its pure physics and there is no way around it. And so the poster wasn't excusing that, just explaining that this will always be the nature of that relationship.
On the hugs. They’re literally mates. Pogi literally mentions Matthews in interviews (sigma sport) saying - “Matthews bought me this present( his vinyl player), he’s my mate etc”
Remember when Jordan bought 20K diamond earring for Charles Barkley? Yeah. ;)
But hey, NOW they're friends and all.
Did he literally buy him that vinyl player though? Not saying it was a lie or he’d want to convince the public if something that’s not true, but there’s something about that situation that seems figurative
MvP is the poster boy for 3 Canyon bikes for different events: the Inflite cx bike, the Aeroroad & the Lux mtb. He wins on each bike. So it's like sponsoring 3 riders and with the crossover, he might widen the market for each bike. If you are say a roadie he might encourage you into wanting to try cross or XC racing. He has already done some gravel, so that could well be an extension of his marketing power in the future - though at the 1st gravel worlds he used a road bike.
As for the niceness if it translated in to less competitive racing then maybe , however, pros are suggesting it's less nice with more attacks and less respect given etc. When I played Cricket there was a lot around playing hard on the pitch but sitting down and having a drink together after the match. You could have all kinds of abuse hurled at you and then have a drink & a laught after the match.
Ngl, I am keen on getting my perennials on their Inflite and Lux 😂 bloody poster boy!
For a new-ish road rider in the states MvP put Canyon on the radar for me and I was going to buy a Canyon but couldn't find one in stock for 6 months. You put him in the Lifetime GP with the marketing he has on the road and the bikes will sell.
I bought my Canyon after selling my Trek which was the wrong size. I’m very happy with the bike but have heard bad reviews and disparaging remarks about canyon quality. Personally, the Canyon was much smoother than the Trek, and if multiple world champions rode Canyons, even better!
Good take on MVDP’s relationship to the salary cap via Canyon. 👏
Chris, what you "know" is obviously wrong. Pog and Matthews have been Monaco training friends for many years. And Pog and Philipsen have photos together all over social media, so clearly Pog is friends with both of them.
Plus, weren't Philipsen and Pog teammates at UAE?
yes two years, including sharing their WT neo-pro season@@frazmars
And a handful of years ago, shortly before his untimely death in a dune buggy accident, long-retired American superstar motocross rider Marty Smith said in an interview about his '76 season with Honda on the European circuit that along the way he became friends with riders about whom he had heard were not so friendly. And turns out, they got along well, just other young guys who rode their dirt bikes fast and wanted to win for their sponsors and nations.
Completely not my point, I was saying not everyone in the peloton is as “matesy” as people will have you believe. Go back to last year’s tour and tell me the sprinters were stoked with the way Philipsen was sprinting (which is a good thing, rivalry’s are good)
Fair enough, but you said it immediately after you made the argument that Pog is strategically fake-nice in hopes it will benefit him... (which doesn't make much sense, the only time Pog needs help is when Jonas "little man goes fast" Vingegaard drops the bomb... and in that situation literally nobody can help you). Anyway all good@@ChrisMillerCycling
I think Pogi is genuinely impressed when other people beat him. Must get kinda boring to always be so dominant. He’s a competitor and likes to see other people put up a good fight.
Yea, I get the feeling that Volta race he's currently at is a series of catered training days for him.
One has to say too: pogi CAN be more serious. When he's losing the tour or after a long hard season in il Lombardia, I feel like he's always respectful but not as joyish. Right now he's starting into a new season fresh, he's winning 9/10 things he looks at. I think he simply is in a good mood and if someone had challenged him on the fourth Catalunya Stage after winning all the other ones would be have been phased by that? Prob not...
Pogi and Philipsen are close friends from 2019 when they started at UAE. Mathews is neighbour of Pogi in Monaco, he is also lending Pogi parking space for his sports car in his garage. So anybody expected that they will look angry at each other on podium? Don't see how they were faking it....
Wouldn't that be great to see guys like van der Poel and Pidcock showing up to a few Lifetime Grand Prix races; Stetina would loose his mind.
Hahaha Stetina always complaining 😂
With Aerobars…
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When people say “I’m getting in to road cycling what bike do I get?” I point them to a used endurance carbon bike in their size. Like a Defy or Roubaix or Domane. Probably 105 or whatever is a good deal. Leave them money to buy nice tires and a comfortable saddle.
Regarding the hookless tire blowoff, the rim was only cracked. If there was a complete collapse of the rim, then the tire would likely disengage, whether hooked or hookless. With this cracked rim, the tire would likely stay on if it was a hooked system. The impact blew the tire off of the hookless rim and also cracked the rim. The crack did not directly cause the blowoff.
I was going to say this as well; I suspect hooks would have helped the tire stay on the cracked rim better, and maybe allow the rider to come to a better-controlled stop. Still don't see what benefit hookless is supposed to provide, other than a manufacturing cost decrease (revenue increase) for manufacturers.
Is part of the problem that things are lighter and engineered with far more narrow tolerances for failure?
@jeffvalore5010 semantics, but it would only increase Zipp's margin, not revenue / sales... ironically, I'd assume the hookless drama is damaging Zipp's sales
Wasn’t he also running a tire narrower than the minimum spec allows and at a higher psi than allowed? Seems cut and dry to me
No, 28mm is fine according to Zipp’s own website. Haven’t seen anywhere what pressure he was riding. In any case a 1mm tolerance is stupid. Tyres bulge out more than that depending on the rim type so do you go by the factory claimed width or do you need clippers every time you try a new tyre? Too complicated and unnecessary - I just want to ride my bike.
JC- "I've never done something just for fun!" hahaha, poor fella.
Cross discipline pros are probably just the guys that love riding, no matter the bike or style. I'm no pro, but I love racing and riding, and I race road bikes, cyclocross, and downhill mountain bikes. You can be great in all disciplines.
Regarding "Podium Love In" - It seems like there is an assumption that aggression and personal distaste for your competitors gives you the highest competitive advantage, channeling the aggression into motivation to push hard on the bike. That can be true for many, but I feel like it's not true for everyone. For some people, a more playful attitude reduces pressure and allows for the right flow state of great performance. The mental states of high performers are diverse.
Pogi and philipsen were team mates and friends. They drove down there together and pogi and Mathews are also really good friends and train together regularly. So it does explain why they were so friendly
I dont get why competitors cant respect other adversaries. Sounds like what Jessie and..other guy (sorry) want is antagonists. And that falls squarely into the domain of old school thinking.
You don't have to hate your competitor to compete against them with everything you have. It's just such a stupid concept. We want them to be less cordial becuase it's more entertaining? Go watch reality tv if you want drama. Cycling and sports should be about just being the best on the field. That's it.
I didn't mind having both podcasts pop up on Thursday. But it's also nice having them separated by a day. Either way, both typically get watched within a couple hours of dropping. Having them in the same was fun because I could compare different takes on the same topics.
I prefer this pod over the Cade one. By a wide margin. Can't explain why other than I just like the Aussie accents and personalities more. It also helps that the chemistry between you two is feels better. Again, can't really explain it, but there's some x-factor that makes this pod much nicer than Cade's and why I look forward to this every week.
And these guys actually talk about relevant subjects, whereas the new Cade just wants affiliated links, sponsors, and a few unoriginal talking points that have already been discussed elsewhere. I do love anything bike fit, though.
was going to post similar - cade should be more relevant to me, but i skip a lot of their content and enjoy the guys banter much more even though often irrelevant to me (my FTP being only around 300w :) ). listenting to the questions being sent in, i think the guys should realise people like me are probably a fair chunk of the audience. that said, i am australian in the UK, and probably just miss no BS australian chat...
@@IsaacAdler That's how I feel too. They don't really bring anything to the table that makes it worth listening to...except James the bike fit guy, he actually has really interesting expertise.
Cade’s podcast is like the gravel version of this one, no offence
Cade are not cyclists they are UA-cam’s doing podcast about cycling. Here cyclists doing youtube podcast.
VDP's deal reminds me of Ted King and Cannondale. I don't know if King has an actual contract with them but he continues to ride their goods. It really seems like a win-win for both parties.
The only other long-term bike partnership I can recall is Jalabert and LOOK, even after his retirement, but the MvP deal is next level. Another entertaining episode, thanks fellas!
Your show is the one I watch every week without fail in its entirety, the Cade Media one I watch after running out of other stuff, and even then I'll probably only pick the odd section to skip to. So in that regard, I don't think it matters too much which day they both come out on.
MVDPs contract is obviously a way to supplement his income to prevent bigger teams trying to snap him up… common in a lot of sports these days.
Na, I love that some of the best guys are good friends! It makes them more endearing and more heroic characters. It's a good look for the sport. They race hard and make it look fun too ❤️
That's not what Pog is about though. He just loves riding his bike. He's buzzing even if he doesn't win. There's lots of different personalities, that's sport. I'd rather my kids are inspired by Pog tbh.
I think Dylan Van Baarle would say Pog isn't always so friendly at the finish line(RVV 2022).. think that's what Pog is really like on the bus and his PR team have told him to cut it out on camera
Only time I have ever cracked a carbon rim was thankfully on tubulars. Rim was only 30mm deep, but completely split in 2. Hit the edge of a lowered drain which sat about 3cm below the road level. Was doing 42kph on tribars training for a tt. Thankfully the tub stayed on the rim and miraculously I didn't fall off or puncture. This was 4 years ago. Something to be said about old technology. Oh, and I listen to both you and Cade media, as you offer slightly different things, but very helpful on the turbo.
There is no other rider that can generate the interest MVDP can, from MTB, Gravel,Cross and road he covers it all. Zwift, Oakley, Canyon benefited and will continue to benefit. Does help selling bikes
Definitely room for both Cade and Nero. I follow you both but for different reasons. I do not feel that your are really competing with one another. That being said, I watch both podcasts on the turbo trainer and the fact that they are released on different days is awesome. Keep up the great work, still waiting for Hambini 🤣
Re biketuber reviews, I really appreciate how Path Less Pedalled goes into the geometry which quantifies, to a limited extent at least, how a bike will handle and fit. It's not the full picture, but I've found it super helpful in shopping for frames. Understanding frame geometry makes comparing different frames A LOT easier even without riding every one.
I've been through (what I consider to be, personally) an interesting journey from being a fairly obsessive cyclist and racer (albeit not a great one) to becoming a dad and having very little time to train or race. My first goal, after having a few years completely off the bike, was to get back into 5-6 hours of training a week (in my lunch breaks mainly) and see, firstly, if I could survive an A grade crit, which was the main type of racing I used to do. Then I tried to advance from there. It's been humbling, but has also been great to get back into that scene, for the competitive outlet and for the social aspect, as I tend not to be able to do any bunch rides. There have been some successes and failures, based on my own benchmarks I've set myself, but all in all, it's been a lot of fun.
Another great episode gents, I watch both podcasts and whilst there are some similar topics both are interesting to watch in their own right
I’m from uk so started watching Cade first and love his multi day trips on the bike
Would be brilliant to see you guys try one
So did the rim crack and the tire blow off? Or did the tire blow off and the impact of the rim on the ground cause it to crack?
You guys and LRCP are best cycling podcasts. Also GTCC and Path Less Pedaled. To me all I care about is the authenticity and so many youtubers are not authentic.
I do a lot of driving Thursday morning in the US. I listen to both podcasts back to back 😊
Agree, Decathlon did fantastic with the Van Rysel brand to design and produce high quality bikes at affordable prices and then destroy their image with an horrible looking kit! 😖
I wouldn’t be bothered about cade media. They just seem to be coping whatever gcn do, but low budget. Your channel is a leader in this type & have a much better demographic. Carry on just as are you are…
Depends where you live. Cade media is much more appealing than Nero to a certain type of British audience, with its greater level of mickey-taking, childishness and lack of earnestness. These things go down a treat in the UK. Australia is sort of in between the UK and the US in this regard, so not a completely alien and offputting viewing experience for Brits.
I like that you guys release these a day earlier, good consistent bike content all through the week!
Thanks for the exceptional delivery again lads. Makes my Wednesday’s getting home from work and watching along
Completely agree that Cade and Nero are different audiences. As someone who used to watch Cade, I think theirs is a far more aimed at a casual cyclist whereas I think Nero is aimed at a more serious (obsessive) cyclist. Not hating on Cade, I think they put together a really good product for their market, but I just found the discussions quite shallow and a bit too lay-person orientated.
There was a state level Tour on last weekend with about 30 people in A grade, 5 years ago it had about 90. Road racing is fucked in Aus.
You have so may examples of this in cycling already, latter one, maybe Peter Sagan going to bora, they had to ride specialized, then going to total energies, the same happened. It's a normal thing for the biggest riders in the world
Lance too, Trek goes with him to Astana.
That’s not what they’re talking about, they even mentioned Sagan. They are saying that it is even more restrictive than those contracts
De Gendt also had a tire insert, which would also reduce the impact of riding over a rock. Something's fishy.
Also, do you guys control the number of ad breaks? It seems there's an ad break every 3-4 minutes in this episode.
These inserts doesn't work like that in road tires, only on mtb tires. On road tires they just let you ride along when the tire is flat, that's all, they're not wide enough to protect the rimwall from any rocks.
16:27 Pogi is the biggest name in cycling and even he is not nearly as marketable as MVDP. His persona coupled with being a multiple time World Champion across 3 discipline is unmatched. There are a lot of guys with talent or personality but very few with both. Canyon is smart to give him whatever he wants for as long as he wants.
Chris, check it out. Mathieu and Tyler will be doing Impossible Rides. VC is with Canyon for many years now.
i’m liking the fact that you’ve moved to Wednesday with cade and Tainer Road all on a Thursday it was a lot to get through
For a fun event. I’d suggest get a team together and do the tour of margs.
releasing it a day earlier is good so i dont stay up til 3am on a friday to binge it all
I listen to both Cade and yourself. I have one for the journey to and from work on the Thursday and then one for the gym on Friday! The issue is the rest of the week 🤣
Hi fellas, I'm not happy with your Trek shaming, Trek is booming in Canberra where I live. It is the dominant bike brand here with Trek bikes seen everywhere from your commuter to top level NRS riders. There are 3 stores which are flat out and offer fantastic customer service. The other thing which is not as well noticed is they support the local club scene by both sponsoring and volunteering at races. Trek is also a massive supporter to junior cycling in the region sponsoring local riders and teams. Thanks for the podcast, you guys are doing a fantastic job, keep it up!
I’m with you guys, I’m calling BS re the Zipp explanation. I had a dispute with them a while ago as they stated that their Zipp engineers did not consider that the Carbon hookless wheels of their’s I had did not require drain holes, I then asked them how do I get all the water out of the fairings that ingress when I go through a creek/puddle/river crossing or even wash my bike. They told me to remove the tyre and tubeless valve and drain the water from the rim that way!! WTF (I have their response in an email). Guess what, the version 2 of that rim which was marketed as a gravel rim had drain holes. Zipp are questionable at best if you ask me!! Great episode, keep them going. 👍🏻
Feels like you are both aware of the froth around US gravel scene but maybe not as appreciative of it, as you are outside the bubble. Seems like we need a US trip where you do an event somewhere with VC, Pillar Performance supported, on a Cervelo Aspero? Cant wait to see MVP in the U.S. selling gravel bikes.
I feel like there's just a great gravel network in the US. You can ride gravel for hours and hours on well maintained trails where I'm at. Is it the same in other countries?
@wertacus Plenty of roads like these in Central West NSW.
Check also the Central West Cycle Trail.
Northern Vic has rail trails around Bright, the King Valley. Northern NSW and SE QLD too.
I don't think there is an alterior motive to Pogacar's behavior. I think this is just who he is. Personally, I like the fact he can be competitive, dominate races and still have a good time and congratulate others afterwards. It's nice to see from my perspective.
I hit a mound of rocks that fell off the back of a landscaping truck on McCarrs creek rd with my Giant SLR1 hookless rims @ 45kph & the tyre blew off & entangled itself around the rim bringing me down as I could no longer steer the front wheel. I think one of the major issues with hookless rims is tyre pressure & tyre width is key. 25mm tyres on hookless rims should be avoided at all costs due to the higher psi. The fact Giant sold their road bikes with 25mm tyres for their hookless rims I think was negligent to say the least. Also the relationship between the rim inner width & tyre width is very important. I now ride on 28mm tyres with the 19.4mm inner width Giant rims & so far the rims have been bomb proof.
To help motivate Jesse, you need to discuss bucket rides. What so many of us use as motivation and anchors for our seasons
Would love to see MVDP or WVA participating in more of the premier level off road races. Cross is cool, but doesn't have the Xfactor of an 8-10 hour gravel race.
Events: At 30 started doing events and already had 3kids by then. I've never had more than 8hrs to train etc etc. So of course I'm nowhere near the front in mass start events/races. Usually ~3rd group. But I like to see how well I can do on those 6 to 8hrs training a week. And see if I can beat my previous placing and time PB's etc. And that's the challenge. And I really enjoy it.
Lance had an individual contact with Trek. Not sure of the exact terms, but he was in a position to only individually benefit, but to also drive the direction of changes to the bikes he was racing.
JC, I'd suggest training and riding a race with a friend to help him/her complete a goal. I'm a competitive runner and usually I focus entirely on myself during training blocks. However, I recently paced a friend of mine to his first sub-3 hour marathon, and it was one of the most enjoyable and memorable things I've done. Maybe you would find some enjoyment doing the cycling equivalent! Love the show guys!
On Pogacar. It’s called having high EQ. What is the point of blaming your teammate? He knows he’s strong enough to win GC anyways… And on that point, why are you advocating toxicity in the peloton? Being a leader and face of a sport, you want to show sportsmanship and set a good example for future generations of competitors . It also helps set a good culture not only inside the pro peloton, but also around the whole sport. Not a toxic competitive environment.
you guys should do the Cape Town Cycle Tour but it just happened for this year, so maybe next year! We had 32k people this year
Rode the new Canyon Ultimate in Mallorca last September for a week.
Didn’t like it at all.
But I think this is a solid move for MVP
he also had the vittoria air liners in which would help protect against hitting rocks etc…
Liners protect against rocks in mountain bikes - their only use in a road bike is to allow a cyclist to keep riding on a flat tyre while the team car catches up.
Pogi is either a genuinely likeable guy or a master manipulator. My favourite recent moment of Pogi was during his interview with Matt Stephens were he asked a fan asking for a photo to not lean his bike on a rock wall.
This happened to me last year on a group ride with my 404 Firecrest Tubeless. I was going at a good pace and we crossed a railroad track. A chunk of road was missing parallel to the rails and I was able to lift the front wheel quickly, but the rear wheel hit the hole hard!! The tubeless Conti 5000 28mm S TR Tire stayed on, but I was losing pressure slowly. I was able to make it home which was 15-20 miles from home. When I got home I took the tire off and the rim was cracked across the rim bed. I was surprised it wasn't worse actually. All situations are different, but I can't really fault their wheel for this. They replaced my rear wheel without question.
As much as people give ENVE and Zipp crap for the cost vs quality of their wheels, they stand by them. Any issues come up, they'll just replace it. I know Hambini often reams on Zipp for the quality of their hubs, but many SRAM/Zipp dealers will service them for free.
@@ynie1 but who wants catastrophic failure, regardless of warranety support?
*major hot take*
32:30 after seeing the Boeing situation why would de gent risk the latter part of his career or his life to tell the truth.
Well... I go to events for fun... because I'll never be able to compete for the front... What's nice about going to events for fun: I can go somewhere on closed roads... I'll still prepare as good as possible, even though I'm lacking time to do proper training... so I just go there for shit and giggles... and enjoy the atmosphere and ... going somewhere without cars, where I normally wouldn't be able to go... Chris explained it really well at the descent the other weeks... You feel like a pro if the roads are closed and you can use up parts of the road you normally couldn't
Feelings aren’t facts, but perception is 99% of someone’s reality.
Has that rim cracked after the tyre blew off and then impacted directly onto the hard tarmac , causing the crack🤔 So, the cracked rim being a result of the blow off, not the cause?
- I've cracked a carbon rim without puncturing the tire twice (tubular on a road bike and on my MTB) it's not unheard of.
- It's cute how much Jesse thinks the brands do robust stress testing on all their products (Zipp probably was able to prove that their product consistently passes the UCI requirement which are silly low and then pumps out the production)
I vaguely remember reading that MvdP was one of the founders of what is now Alpecin-Deceuninck along with the Roodhooft brothers. And is or was a partial owner of the team. All this to say I don't see him ever leaving that team until he retires. And in the unlikely situation where he was going to leave the team, I see it like a Sagan situation where he has enough leverage that whatever team he goes to will ride Canyon. I don't think it would be unheard of for Canyon to just follow him to whatever team he chooses.
Jesse - come to the US and do LoToJa
It’s a 200 mile road race with beautiful views and roads from Logan Utah to Jackson Wyoming.
I'm calling it now; the Red Bull branded kit will be amazing and unique.
Sportsmanship should not be discouraged for ratings. That's just wrong. Racing should not stoop to the level of reality tv.
I did Peaks this year just for fun! Wasn’t fastest time but was a good experience hadn’t riden for 4 weeks prior due to travel overseas but would do it all again.
Why are the Pros crossing disciplines? Maybe, because the sponsors tell them to do so, but its also super fun.
Like, ive been ridden my roadbike für 25.000km in 2 years and i started to get bored by the streets. At some point you know everything that is ridable 100km around you. Then i bought myself a gravelbike and damn it opens a new world for me. So much more ways to try etc. And now I am also riding MTBs because riding downhills on a MTB is so much more fun then doing it on a gravel bike, plus it gives you better bike handling skills by doing so, even on the road.
I think those pros do it also for fun, just like MVDP and other Pros are doing CX Races. Its just pure fun
Below average rider here who does long rides 5 to 8 hours. I'm small guy 165cm but on the heavy side 67kg. I average 145w during my 8 hours ride so I'm not fast. This been said from my personal experience, marginal gains (aero helmet, aero kits, etc) made me gain free speed. By just changing the helmet to an aero one gained 2kph... So i think that marginal gains and weight matter more for average or below average rider because going quicker even at relatively slower speed 20 - 27kph requires significantly more effort so everything that can help is welcome. On the contrary, a strong rider can easily overcome additional 2 or 5 kg weight penalty on a hilly corse from effort perspective and ofc not from racing perspective. A stronger rider can easily average above 35kph with or without marginal aero gains. It would really be nice to dive deeper into this subject in future podcast
I agree with your point as a viewer and it being a competition
maybe the first time ever I've disagreed with you lads, I think they'd kill each other in the race to win but when the race is over it's over. I think it's great they display sportsmanship after the race.
Agreed. MVP to ride all the bikes in all the events as for Tyler . PS On the first day, God created the Nero Show, and he saw that it was good…. But when on the 100th day others had followed… but fallen short … God slapped a cease and desist on them …. 😊
Is Jesse's camera recording at a lower framerate? It's been bothering me for a while now. The discrepancy between quality and smoothness between the two camera pans.
Saw the plug for the Hayman Classic. Am entered already. Looksnlike an interesting one.
Jesse, this year's Amy's Ride in Lorne is a qualifyier for next years world Gran Fondo championships also in Lorne. Have at it.
Pogi can be chilled, cause he knows he’ll win the overall anyway and the guy is not a thread. And San Remo was a training ride, so he also didn’t really care
What about Chris Froome? Built his career riding Pinarello bikes. Suddenly he is not preforming, moves to another team where he changes bike brands then gets even worse and starts blaming the bike on social media and now seems to be gone. Something similar has to happen here with MVP because 10 years is a long time to be at top level.
Cade Media are not your competitors your way better however Escape Collective are going to the line with you guys. Great Show look forward to it every week.
Mvdp has a damn Lamborghini sponsorship. No one compares to his marketability
Do the Hayman classic in Canberra. There's even a sportif type event this year where you try and do the most laps
Commented that 90 seconds too early lol
100% pogi would be a great spokesman and get a mvdp like deal. He wins one days, and then we expect him to win grand tours. So many people only watch the tour. Great personality too, not too silly, but fun and a beast. Beyond not deep pockets I always thought campagnolo should lock down pogi as an athlete. When he won the tour so young, perfect person to usher campy in with the new generation. They have such racing heritage (used to!)
In Jourdain s recent video titled "The Difference Between GOOD and BAD Carbon Fiber Bike Frames" the carbon repair expert praises canyon for making paper thin tubes that break like matches. He straight up says it's bringing him lots of business. I want my frame to be built like a tank, I'm 83kg and I want to throw the bike in the car, then another bike, then another, and not worry that a chain stay will snap in transit
Good show.well said about separation of podcasts.Liked the spirit ti's as with most weeks.Enjoyed
My last generation TCR ADV SL got crashed into a motobike during downhill..the whole bike goes front roll while I land, cheek first on the tarmac…miraculously, the only damage I experienced is to the right brake level…the frame and wheels manage to go unscathed..
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As for bike review, I just need to tick some box: Major trusted brand, specs, good service, that’s it
Nero show all day long lads. Cade is decent but I’m sure it’s a different demographic here. 😊
Riding 3 or 4 times a week for an hour describes my winter training regime. :)
Jesse wanting Pogi and other pros to be arseholes to each other says a lot more about who Jesse is as a person and less about who Pogi, Blind and other are
Regarding the cracket rim : how do we know the crack didn't happen because of the tyre blowout, and not the other way around ?
Cadel Evans had/has this kinda deal
With BMC.
Tom Domoulin and Giant Bicycles… he’s now touring with them somewhere in Thailand
I have never seen any testing on behalf of the foam inserts as they relate to impacts. Theoretically the air will allow more dimpling in a tire upon impact, so if you have less volume of air in the tire because mass of the insert - does the insert absorb the force of the hit--or does it compress all the force directly into the rim?