How to Teamfight in League of Legends: ULTIMATE Team Fighting Guide!
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- How to Teamfight in League of Legends!
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You mighy had forgotten karthus as a dissengage champion, i think he's a good example because how his wall works, just like anivia.
Space has two meanings in overwatch, i am comparing lol to ow bcs i played a lot of it, the literal one, how much area your team has control over, and a more abstract one, how much atention you or your enemies are puting in that area, thats why is so confusing, sometimes a zed in the outside of the fight creates more pressure than being in the fight
Counter intuitively when you have uncertainty and need to dissipate your atention, like in the akali case, you get less value from space
Also, tempo is first move advantage or the ability to keep it
He sounds like he hates explaining things and he thinks it's really obvious and it's making me feel stupid that i don't know some of these things because of the way he talks about it.
The other important thing to ask yourself before fighting is “why?”. Are you fighting for a drake? For a baron? For lane pressure? For xp advantage? Once you start questioning yourself you will improve massively
Im fighting for my friends
@@leoaltivez7161 "If they fight, why wouldn't I ?"
@@leoaltivez7161 FAMILY
I just want my kids back
This is huge actually, its a junglers job to tell his team to disengage since he is keeping watch on the objectives the most. Numerous times I sneak dragon and people rotate to at least get a kill or 2 for it and I just run away, and as they are duking it out I sneak herald. Only works if the enemies a d your own team are clueless about macro.
That malphite ult is actually so insanely good. No hesitation.
my man was waiting for it
Yeah, a split second too late and his ADC was dead.
as someone who studies warfare, tactics, strategy throughout history, I loved your comparisons as I always saw league this way (xerath being an artillery, garen an infantry soldier, etc)
FINALLY I found a video I can send to my teammates in solo queue. 🙏
Focus on ur own game
That's a lovely suggestion. Wp
This channel has the best quality guides. Places like proguides might be nice and fancy but they just gloss over everything with fancy graphics and hyper narrative stuff. I'm Grand Master peak because of skill capped. Maybe we go challenger XD
Wow, thanks!
The fucking Game of Thrones screenshots, I'm dead xD
10:50 I think Scissors should be poke, Paper should be disengage, Rock should be engage, it's just way easier to remember that way imo
Great approach by taking examples such as akali or veigar and the comparrison with archers and swordsmen. Best guide so far.
you can also learn this the hard way by playing ARAM enough. Sometimes you just lose in champ select with no options
Trueeee
8:20 gave me Game of Thrones sad flashbacks :c
Skill Capped: "How to Team Fight"
Me: "Is it pick Illaoi, build Hullbreaker, and make THEM teamfight ME?"
Wo doesn't know the tresh Zyra adc with kog and ashe support 11:00
this guide is insanely clear and simple. It’s just perfect. Beautiful.
Alot of players forget they have poke champions on the team and rush engage's too quickly, that was a good tip
HUGE guide, right on time! Especially with the nature of Solo Queue, team fighting is often discouraged because of its coin flip nature. Armed with knowledge, there'll be slightly less and our games will be better.
This was the most useful vod for me! Thx.
You finally released the ultimate guide : team fighting
Legendary video! Helped so much!
I think the biggest problem is not knowing when we should leave. Lietrally so many times we get 1 or 2 kills and we are all really low and I am pinging my teammates to back off but they have to go and die and then ping me (i am adc) for not helping them because I was extremely low on health...like why do they not get this
Another great guide. Thank you
thanks for the video it, i was able to understand the examples and analogies
These guides are just getting better and better
Very good video! knew some of those but I always forget when I'm in a teamfight or ahead
I needed this guide soo much but i never knew i did, thank you ans i hope you make more guides related to the same subject for its one of the hardest things, i 90% never knw the result of the fight till i see who's still alive in the end of it
great guide
minion strength also plays a big role in the comeback mechanic as well. just saying, that's what it is: killing the enemy champions provides space: ie to push the nexus. Having strong turrets/minions on both sides of the board is supposed to provide space to come back after both getting kills and getting killed.
Oh no I’m six minutes late to class. Darn you late notifications.
The crazy thing about watching this video is that fully gave me an advice on how to finish the campaign on warcraft since i had no idea really how to visualize the best way to position all of my troops, even though i knew how to do it on league of legends... But that example of the chivalry coming from behind and etc... Always just select everyone and attack one targer... when what i really should be doing is fully to organize how they position to walk togehter etc... geez never thought about that! dont even know why...
very good !
just wanted to say it's cool to see some better understanding of the game in general. IDK if yall took anything I've said to heart in the past, but this guide does remind me of a few things I've said on the channel. Particularly, "the other lanes exist solely to create space for me to carry". Another good one is "The comeback mechanic was originally killing the enemy heroes/champions". One of the main reasons it's so hard to come back in this game is because the turrets are so flimsy, easily destroyed, misplaced, severely low attack speed, and extremely low range. If you truly understand how killing the enemy champions is "the only real comeback mechanic in a moba", you'd know how the strength of turrets directly ties into keeping this mechanic in check.
Space has two meanings in overwatch, i am comparing lol to ow bcs i played a lot of it, the literal one, how much area your team has control over, and a more abstract one, how much atention you or your enemies are puting in that area, thats why is so confusing, sometimes a zed in the outside of the fight creates more pressure than being in the fight
Also, tempo is first move advantage or the ability to keep it
Man you guys really read my mind.
I thought about why we weren't winning with all the leads that I got while roaming as support and I only realised that teamfighting was the reason only a week ago, so I started to think about what I can do. Then this video comes right around and makes everything seem so obvious now.
Thanks skillcapped.
Ovetwatch guides are realy good at talking about teamfights, its literaly the entire game
Love that game of thrones reference, big questions mark there as wel
I played a game once as trist oin mid. Our team had loist the early game and I wa the only fed member. My shot-calling and macro managed to get us to a good level by the time in the game where it became really hard to make plays without having huge fights. So, in these fights I did the typical tristana thing, of engaging out of possition enemies, and hitting the rest from far away. The problem was the enemy blitzcrank was really good at holding his abilities because he was the only real peal for the eney carries. And he was deadly with his hooks. So everytime I engaged, I needed to make sure I could one-shot an enemy carry, so our adc was the major source of dmag in the rest of the fight. Basically, the blitz made me die 9 times in that game after going 8/2 in lane, I ended with 12/11.
8:20 lmao nice dig at Game of Thrones season 8 :,D
lol crazy i knew that all. but just out of my feeling. thank you guys i will pay attention to this more. i think teamfights are my biggest strengths but i play disengage champs mostly lol. but my teammate is engaging against 3 disengager/2 engagers. i mean what can i do right
Love how you said ‘stuff like Ezreal…’
Skillcapped: Adapt
My teammate: *Runs it down while playing orianna and blames me for not using ult to engage*
where can i find a list of all poke,engage and disengage champions?
Just wondering, what type of style are Darius and Garen then? Engage? Disengage?
Skillcaped: The enemy players will not walk past akali because he will flank them
My teammates: Who cares about one akali.... ( Meanwhile Garen) March!!
XD
I know it is not the point, but on the 11:15 example you say there is no way for blue team to answer pre-fight poke and they literaly have a soraka who can just stay back and heal teammates. Anyway I enjoyed the guide
She cant heal forever... and not quick enough for them to not give up inhib
can u make a video on drake combinations
At first i would have agreed with u on that Jarvan fight. but after a 2nd look i am not so sure that he made the wrong move. It´s true he´s team is abit behind but as he died Kayle was within range to use her ult on him. We cant se if her ult was ready then but at 05:34 she has both her own ult and Zilian ult on herself so Kayle could have saved Jarvan before he died and by that point Zilian would be in range for he´s ulti saving Jarvan again. It brings up the question of how mutch should u trust your team. But considering that they hade 2 death saving ultimates on there team i am gonna go ahead and agree with Jarvan´s aggresive move here.
SHEEEEEESH TYYY
Can we get a list of champs categorized by if they are engage, disengage or poke? It's sometimes hard to tell. Like, Tristana is obviously engage. But what about Lee Sin? He could go right in and kick someone into his team as engage but he could also disengage in a similar manner and his shields help with that as well. This would be super helpful to have! Even if it's only for paid subscribers, I'd love to have it.
When you can't say for sure, it mostly mean --> they can adapt to the situation.
Lee can be an engage (insec ; all-in) as well as a disengage (R a diver out ; shields etc.).
@@Masterpouya Yeah, often they can do more than one thing but knowing what they primarily want to do is good. Like, Malphite is primarily engage as they said but he could be used as disengage too. Would Lee Sin rather be engage or disengage? I'm not too sure.
@@miki_mochi as a lee sin one trick, the question you should be asking yourself is if it's more valuable for you to use kick to find picks on enemy carries, in which case you're engage, or to use kick as peel for your own carries, in which case you're disengage. it depends more on how strong your own carries are, and how strong the enemy carries are. if you already win front to back teamfights, then peeling is all u need to do, but if u dont, then u need to find a flank and get an engage kick on a priority target
Nice
11:00 even skillcapped knows that the supports are the true carries
Most op role but sadly most difficult…. You need to coordinate with ur team. And they wont talk to you
The game of thrones joke was amazing.
“Now imagine those trebuchet’s outside the castle walls. Not so threatening now, right?” Flashback to GoT S8
OH that game of thrones dig 😂😂
Hahahaha got scene got me laughing 😂
11:00 is thresh really an engage champion? I feel like with his lantern and ult he is really focussed on disengaging. Also flay and hook are better for disengage than engage no? I really enjoyed the rest of the video though
Thresh has been an amazing pick since the dawn of time because he works great as both disengage and engage. Hell even poke somewhat in lane with flay autos
@@marksman9208 🍭
@@marksman9208 He doesnt work as the engager though, he can work as follow up on engage, but he can not be used as the engager
@@timb2674 it’s comp specific ofc. If you have a thresh and another bruiser/tank with cc, thresh can start it up with a hook and let the others follow up and shift his role to peel
How do you know they are engage, disengage and poke?
13:12 lol yeah but waht rly carried the teamfight is that gragas missed his ult on 3 stunned targets... and this in pro play lol
12 seconds late damn
snoozing on our upload :(
lol @ the GOT reference
I understand your point in this one, but the jarvan example in my eyes is quite false, he clearly knows kayle is in range to ult him and they also had a zilean coming up right after, that kayle ult alone on j4 would win them the fight with the aoe
Me as a new guys love to push into 5 man enemy and think:
Looks like I got penta kill this time
1 min later: *types in all chat* my team baited me and left me to die alone.
Super sache jungs
How do you make space with someone like Kayle? She doesn't have any AoE other than got and no cc other a slowing skill shot.
If you're strong enough you can zone people from the teamfight by "standing menacingly" you being there to zone them from the fight means they have 3 choices:
1- not join the teamfight at all
2- take the long way wasting a lot of time
3- go past you and take a lot of damage or die
theres also the fact they could fight you but i said if youre strong enough, so
if you have ultimate thats even better because you could probably kill them even with your invulnerability
@@walter1543 Thank you. I love it when my sheer presence deters attackers.
Who would you create space with a champ designed to carry you all the way bu auto attacking? If you are the carry, your team must create the space. If one champ could poke, engage and disengage, its name would be akali
0:50
"do you mindlessly just run in your enemy and hope whatever you do works?"
- Y..
"No"
- yenooo No.. pff of course not
fudge factor going in
What about if you have in the enemy team 20/5 zed can easily one shot the carry and go back where he were
Lux and Morgana: You guys are only one type?
but Gragas can disengage too right ? (with R)
Isn't Gragas a disengage champion tho?
Those people who talk about thresh being disengage have only played with a bad enchanter thresh. Guess we tank thresh have to show them how it's done.
engage on tristana NOTED
Simple, attack whomever is the closest, even if you are full ad yasuo and the guy closest to you is ramus.
ah yes Ashe and KogMaw, the best support
jarvan did the right thing , kayle and zilean had ults to back him up
in low elo, the team that ints harder is the team that loses.
Lol the game of thrones reference
LMAO THAT GOT S8 REFERENCE!
so what i learned here is your team fails teamfight... you run away 🌝
50 hours in LOL thus far and I am still so so so shit.
Nah b that J4 had a Kayle and zilean BOTH WITH R UP AND IN RANGE
What is kled?
Throwing a bit of shade at game of thrones i see
One thing that has helped me improve a ton is being aware of what job my champion has in a teamfight. A malphite has a different job than a Jinx and a jinx has a different job than an Akali. So being aware of your job is one thing and executing is the other. As a tank main I had massive difficulties doing teamfights while playing other roles. Not because I was mispositioning, but simply because as tank main I was used to attack the first thing in sight and stick to it until the fight was won or lost, but this exactly is the worst thing to do in any other role.
Here are a few roles and their actual jobs in teamfights:
Tanks: Engage, cc, create chaos and allow your team to put the mayham in their favor.
Bruisers: Engage, Frontline, but with the enhanced job of dealing dmg to certain carries like other bruisers or midlaners
Assasin: Flank, dont engage with team, but look for flanks to kill the enemy backline and the backline only (ignore tanks and other frontliners)
Supp: Either set up engage as tank or protect your backline as enchanter from said assasins
Jungle, and this is important, front line: Yes, BUT no hard engage, your death can result in enemy taking baron or other important jgl obj. Treat yourself as the mvp if you want and treat engages with care. Your whole team dead but yourself alive for potential baron steal/ deny is always better than your whole team alive with you dead.
2:08 hecarim be like...
8:10 ziggs trebuchet ptsd
what category Garen is?
Can't be a poke champ for obvious reason.
Can't be an engager because he is so slow + no hard CC.
Don't think he can be a disengager since he has nothing to dissuate the engager + he is the only juggernaut who struggle vs frontliner
Okay he has his W but that nothing compare to a braum or an orianna.
so I'm curious.
While not super strong, there'd be some elements of Engage/disengage for Garen. Sometimes, you'll engage by being fed and catching people, and other times you'll dissuade engagers from engaging by silencing and doing a lot of damage.
Also part of why Garen enjoys split pushing or skirmishes. But using Q and W wisely determines how you play a teamfight, if you do.
11:54 the enemy has soraka tho
Thresh isn't a engage champion btw, otherwise, nice video.
Sure he is. He is a mix of engage and disengage. His Q pulls in enemies and his E can also keep people from escaping. Teammates can use the lantern to enter a fight. His abilities can be used as peel or engage.
He can be disengage but hes better as engage he can 5 man knock up with e and perma cc a target with his 0 cd q late game
Thresh is versatile. He can act as primary engage if needed.
Now I know why i dive in and get kill to adc all the time also I will never be ashamed to kill beafy tanky front liners first thanks man
You can erase this now that I have this information. No one else has to know :)
😊
The j4 was a great ult, but kayle didn't ult him
relying on team mate is not a good play
8:20. Actually these are some pictures during sieging, they sent trebuchets in front of soldiers to attack enemy's castle since trebuchets can hit the castle before archer in the castle hit them.
And remember, akali can do the same job as a juggernaut engaging the enemy but better, cause she can oneshot all your back lane and then scape with one of her completely balanced 10 dashes
@2:50 its inting sion gg whole team just died
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Hmm anyone else struggling to classify those champions into the three types?
After watching this video I never lost a game in my whole life I am a Challanger player with a hot wife huge house and i make millions playing videogames
Most of the time in low elo....just don't start the fight and let the enemy team Leroyyyyy Jenkins start shit