Im right there with you. I’ve been struggling with the fact that there was no easy top solution for 4 season driving. I’ve put off buying a kit for years because I wasn’t satisfied with the archaic old school soft tops and scarce removable hard top options.
Rumors are that the hardtop will be Carbon Fiber and should be available to order Q3 of 2025. There’s also a soft top option that hasn’t been mentioned yet.
Fantastic design work by the FFR team. Great upgrades and the hardtop makes it look like one of the Lemans coupes. I still love my Mark III. Best wishes in the New Year and continued business success.
Been saving for the 65 but now it’s going towards the mk5. That hard top looks great never was a fan of the bologna cut 65 bit i was willing to reshape it. Now i like the mk5. Very nice looking top.
Please release a new kit based on a 986 Boxster, it’s likely at maximum depreciation and would be a great base for a new kit. They are easy to find and quite affordable. Love the company!
I think there is a market for other unubtanium replicas. Old Farari replicas, Mk2 Escorts, RS2000, old Volvos. There are a lot of old chassis that are used for rally and are becoming harder to find.
If you're familiar with "The Traveling Builder", hes a big dude. 6'5", 300lb+. Says he fits very comfortably in the new roadster because of the added size and lower seating position. Dave Smith mentioned on his latest podcast that he actually needed the seat on tracks to be seated high enough. This should be the answer you've been waiting for.
I'm a newbie on the FFR forum too and was planning on ordering MK4 and a Gen4 Coyote package from Forte. I was ready to place my order and then I saw the video that was posted. I decided to hold up and order a MK5 too. I'm not to far from Branham and was able to check out his build. I'd heard the footbox is tight but it honestly surprised me how tight it was. I'm only 5-7 so the height didn't bug me but I think more foot room and more engine bay room for the Coyote along with the stiffer chassis and other improvements will make the higher cost worth it. I'm hoping they will have a price and be ready for orders in January. I guess I'm the only one not really interested in the hard top even though it looks way better than the non factory options. Here I'd been planning for months and one video made me reconsider, lol. I've already talked to Forte and he's ready to go with the Coyote packages, he's a great guy to talk to, very knowledgeable. I'm planning on doing everything myself except for the bodywork and paint. Trackday17
Mike Forte’s a good dude. Already spec’d my motor with him as well - was originally going with a pushrod 302, but really tempted to pull the trigger on a Coyote in the Mk5. Debating on if I want to go full crate coyote, or do the work myself with a junkyard pullout. There’s a few guys around me that sell the motor with the PBH control pack that makes things a lot friendlier on the bank account.
@@Fauxbra5.0 , Forte seems to a real straight guy. I think I considered every engine possible but I keep coming back to thinking the Coyote is the best option all around. Honestly a 302 would be fun and I definitely considered that.
I'm 6'3" and full sized. I want a modern Coyote engine to power my dream. I live in the PNW and so rain is the norm. This Mk 5 is like a wish list come true. All I need now is for the Canadian peso to gain some value! Always an excuse...... but now its just the one.
switching from square tube to round tube might get back that increase of 20 pounds but it would undoubtedly raise the cost. regardless, gone are the days of a blue collar cobra kit from ffr; they just keep on moving up market. cool stuff though.
Considering the quality vs the competition, its negligible. Also, you can still order the Mk4 if costs are an issue. The costs of the car align well with material costs, which have skyrocketed since 2020, and I believe Factory Five provides a much better value to its customers than the pre-assembled rollers from their counterparts. Unfortunately, inflation affects everything.
People are free to buy or scrounge tubing and make their own frames and make their own bodies too. But Factory Five has to pay all those blue collar folks to make the products and that costs money. I recommend you look for Ron Champion’s book “Build Your Own Sports Car for as Little as £250 and Race It!” Either the 1st or 2nd edition is fine. There are many other books on building your own car from scratch, I happen to collect them. But that one is (while dated) super focused on keeping costs down.
I realized after the edit that his name is pronounced closer to "Skenk' than it is "Schneck". Unfortunately thats one thing thats impossible to dub without pulling the entire video and reupping. Not a perfect dude, so Ill let my mistakes live on.
Is the 7.3 "Godzilla" really "massive"? It has much greater displacement than a Coyote, but the pushrod 2-valve-per-cylinder design is compact and light. "Huge" might have been a better term, but even then it only applies to displacement, not to package volume. The Godzilla is probably significantly longer, but is also narrower and likely lower; they are about the same weight.
I’m so confused, is there any other information about this? This video is all I can find, besides a Google link for mk5 roadster which leads to a 404 page, and a few screenshots in the forums which match this video…
That is still TBD, however, Dave Lindsey from FFR has mentioned the Mk5 will be ~10% more than the Mk4 (which will still remain in production). Final pricing is set to be revealed near the end of this year.
They didn't redesign the body at all. The body is the exact same one from the MK4. They only added a roof option specifically designed for the MK4/MK5 body.
Reviewing the PN video, it looks like the mounts for the exhaust were not fitted. I wouldnt look much into that issue since this is a prototype vehicle and the first one ever produced.
Not really digging the lack of quick jack ports for the bumper both front and rear. I do like the smoother body lines. I dunno, have to see the final production of these to decide, I prefer the MK4 trans tunnel as well. Hmm wait and see I guess.
@philipmacduffie7612 ever DRIVEN an ACE? I HAVE, it DID/DOES need more horse power. Does it need 250 MORE HP and 300 POUNDS in the front end, NO! A comparison would be like people who shoehorn a small block in a 240/260Z then are mystified by ehy it don't turn any more? I love Carol Shelbys ideas but till I die, think the 427 cobra was a bodge job.
@@fooman2108 Did you buy one? Because no one cares about your opinion only your money. Even Carol only cared about dollars. The 427 body shape is more popular that is fact. You don't like it, no one that made the sales numbers cares. So FFR is going to make what sells not what you like. They make a 289 car, and it doesn't sell; they have said that exact thing.
You know, the deviations between the original and what is "standard" on a repo roadster now? Will soon everything be replaced with "new" just like the Avanti Coupe? It's all self-serving BS!
I'm thrilled to see that my procrastination to order a kit now looks like brilliant planning 😊
Now to just make the 7.3, not look like the 7.3. And we’re golden.
Im right there with you. I’ve been struggling with the fact that there was no easy top solution for 4 season driving. I’ve put off buying a kit for years because I wasn’t satisfied with the archaic old school soft tops and scarce removable hard top options.
I like the Hard Top.
I’m sold on the hard top look. ! It’s beautiful
Rumors are that the hardtop will be Carbon Fiber and should be available to order Q3 of 2025. There’s also a soft top option that hasn’t been mentioned yet.
THIS is EXACTLY what I was hoping for!!!
You and me both! Excited for the full reveal soon!
Fantastic, glad the new design has the 4 cam 5.0 and 7.3 engines accounted for
Fantastic design work by the FFR team. Great upgrades and the hardtop makes it look like one of the Lemans coupes. I still love my Mark III. Best wishes in the New Year and continued business success.
Been saving for the 65 but now it’s going towards the mk5. That hard top looks great never was a fan of the bologna cut 65 bit i was willing to reshape it. Now i like the mk5. Very nice looking top.
Wow, that looks amazing. A state of the art classic, you love to see it.
Hardtop looks amazing
Please release a new kit based on a 986 Boxster, it’s likely at maximum depreciation and would be a great base for a new kit. They are easy to find and quite affordable.
Love the company!
Looks like Triumph Spitfire big brother, which is great, one of best looking cars ever...
The new hard top looks so much better than the old top.
I think there is a market for other unubtanium replicas. Old Farari replicas, Mk2 Escorts, RS2000, old Volvos. There are a lot of old chassis that are used for rally and are becoming harder to find.
Pontiac’s Solstice would be nice!
as much as i like the improvements i'll keep my trusty Mk1 30 years old and still going strong
At 6’2” was always the reason I held off plus as a passenger I hated them. Hopefully this gives me a green light
If you're familiar with "The Traveling Builder", hes a big dude. 6'5", 300lb+. Says he fits very comfortably in the new roadster because of the added size and lower seating position. Dave Smith mentioned on his latest podcast that he actually needed the seat on tracks to be seated high enough. This should be the answer you've been waiting for.
I'm a newbie on the FFR forum too and was planning on ordering MK4 and a Gen4 Coyote package from Forte.
I was ready to place my order and then I saw the video that was posted.
I decided to hold up and order a MK5 too.
I'm not to far from Branham and was able to check out his build.
I'd heard the footbox is tight but it honestly surprised me how tight it was. I'm only 5-7 so the height didn't bug me but I think more foot room and more engine bay room for the Coyote along with the stiffer chassis and other improvements will make the higher cost worth it.
I'm hoping they will have a price and be ready for orders in January.
I guess I'm the only one not really interested in the hard top even though it looks way better than the non factory options.
Here I'd been planning for months and one video made me reconsider, lol.
I've already talked to Forte and he's ready to go with the Coyote packages, he's a great guy to talk to, very knowledgeable.
I'm planning on doing everything myself except for the bodywork and paint.
Trackday17
Mike Forte’s a good dude. Already spec’d my motor with him as well - was originally going with a pushrod 302, but really tempted to pull the trigger on a Coyote in the Mk5.
Debating on if I want to go full crate coyote, or do the work myself with a junkyard pullout. There’s a few guys around me that sell the motor with the PBH control pack that makes things a lot friendlier on the bank account.
@@Fauxbra5.0 , Forte seems to a real straight guy.
I think I considered every engine possible but I keep coming back to thinking the Coyote is the best option all around.
Honestly a 302 would be fun and I definitely considered that.
I'm 6'3" and full sized. I want a modern Coyote engine to power my dream. I live in the PNW and so rain is the norm. This Mk 5 is like a wish list come true. All I need now is for the Canadian peso to gain some value! Always an excuse...... but now its just the one.
The one thing i am interested in is how the top is attached and sealed.
You will love it!
switching from square tube to round tube might get back that increase of 20 pounds but it would undoubtedly raise the cost. regardless, gone are the days of a blue collar cobra kit from ffr; they just keep on moving up market. cool stuff though.
Considering the quality vs the competition, its negligible. Also, you can still order the Mk4 if costs are an issue. The costs of the car align well with material costs, which have skyrocketed since 2020, and I believe Factory Five provides a much better value to its customers than the pre-assembled rollers from their counterparts. Unfortunately, inflation affects everything.
People are free to buy or scrounge tubing and make their own frames and make their own bodies too. But Factory Five has to pay all those blue collar folks to make the products and that costs money. I recommend you look for Ron Champion’s book “Build Your Own Sports Car for as Little as £250 and Race It!” Either the 1st or 2nd edition is fine. There are many other books on building your own car from scratch, I happen to collect them. But that one is (while dated) super focused on keeping costs down.
Don’t know if they offer one but sure would like to see them offer a replica of the Pontiac Solstice with an array of LS engines to choose from!
A high revving 289 would be a great choice
Do you know if the better body fabrication, without the seams, will happen with the Type 65 Coupe as well?
No idea
Thanks for the update as there's nothing on the Factory Five website. FYI, I think his last name is Schenck.
I realized after the edit that his name is pronounced closer to "Skenk' than it is "Schneck". Unfortunately thats one thing thats impossible to dub without pulling the entire video and reupping. Not a perfect dude, so Ill let my mistakes live on.
Is the 7.3 "Godzilla" really "massive"? It has much greater displacement than a Coyote, but the pushrod 2-valve-per-cylinder design is compact and light. "Huge" might have been a better term, but even then it only applies to displacement, not to package volume. The Godzilla is probably significantly longer, but is also narrower and likely lower; they are about the same weight.
Where did you find the Powernation video? It's not on their channel..
www.powernationtv.com/shows/engine-power
But will it fit a Barra?
I’m so confused, is there any other information about this? This video is all I can find, besides a Google link for mk5 roadster which leads to a 404 page, and a few screenshots in the forums which match this video…
You can watch the full PN video here: www.powernationtv.com/shows/engine-power
The chassis looks more race car and less kit car?
Have they improved those horrendous door gaps that require hours of fiberglass work to make look decent?
How much of a cost increase for all of these UPGRADES?
Overall....looks fantastic 👏 👌 🙌
That is still TBD, however, Dave Lindsey from FFR has mentioned the Mk5 will be ~10% more than the Mk4 (which will still remain in production). Final pricing is set to be revealed near the end of this year.
Where do I find the build video
Power Nation
Would love a Hemi 6.4l in there. That would be cool. Don't say it was Ford powered as this is not a Ford product.
I’ve seen LS engines in the roadsters, and I know of a few builders putting hemis in their hot rods!
They didn't redesign the body at all. The body is the exact same one from the MK4. They only added a roof option specifically designed for the MK4/MK5 body.
The hard top does look like a British design. Kind of like a Triumph.
Now I need to decide on the Shelby Hardtop or the Daytona..
A targa top version of the hardtop would be awesome… but also unlikely..😢
Looks to me the passages side side pipe has issue 😢
Reviewing the PN video, it looks like the mounts for the exhaust were not fitted. I wouldnt look much into that issue since this is a prototype vehicle and the first one ever produced.
I want one with a roof 😊
720p...why?
Oh dammmm!!! Smoking hot Cobra!!!!!
I won't resist anything. I want one and I want to know how much.
Base price is expected to be around $25k for the Complete Mk5.
@@Fauxbra5.0 thank you
I LOVE THE FASTBACK....... LOOK GREAT.....
nice
Needs a top
Hopefully that Hard top will be removeable.
Always liked the Superformance cars better.
I want a 5.0 10spd automatic; I wonder if the bigger transmission will fit?
Not really digging the lack of quick jack ports for the bumper both front and rear. I do like the smoother body lines. I dunno, have to see the final production of these to decide, I prefer the MK4 trans tunnel as well. Hmm wait and see I guess.
The Mk5 will be available with quick jacks - they just didn’t install them on the prototype car.
@Fauxbra5.0 good to know, I just mean, I just think a cobra replica, should do it's best to replicate a cobra.
The hard top for sure… but definitely need an LS in it..
WHAT is the fascination with the 427 COBRAS? More weight, ugky body, change weight distribution, of the original Ace.
The sales numbers of 289 cars would disagree. Most like the 427 shape, of those who vote with thier money you are in the minority.
@philipmacduffie7612 ever DRIVEN an ACE? I HAVE, it DID/DOES need more horse power. Does it need 250 MORE HP and 300 POUNDS in the front end, NO! A comparison would be like people who shoehorn a small block in a 240/260Z then are mystified by ehy it don't turn any more? I love Carol Shelbys ideas but till I die, think the 427 cobra was a bodge job.
@@fooman2108 Did you buy one? Because no one cares about your opinion only your money. Even Carol only cared about dollars. The 427 body shape is more popular that is fact. You don't like it, no one that made the sales numbers cares. So FFR is going to make what sells not what you like. They make a 289 car, and it doesn't sell; they have said that exact thing.
You know, the deviations between the original and what is "standard" on a repo roadster now? Will soon everything be replaced with "new" just like the Avanti Coupe?
It's all self-serving BS!
I've looked at factory five to expensive and a person can't purchase the what they want you basically buy what they sell you
Cup Holders? Who The hell would would care about cup holders! The car was meant to Drive not sit at Sonic sipping beverages! Ha Ha!
Slap a Tesla Plaid drivetrain in it, and have the wildest car ever made.
Nope
Revolt just posted a video of a dude who did just that…had to lengthen and widen the chassis, and it’ll light up the tires at 60mph.
I wouldn't mind a Ford Taurus SHO AWD into the MK5 with rear wheel drive bias .