Watch out what you say to God, just saying cause he listens. Once I asked God why are we so poor. I guess it was God who said your not poor. Everything on Earth was created for my children. But, man has put a price on everything that's why your poor. I also asked why can't I be like the wicked who obtain so much wealth. Guess it was God who said you have the the mark of God within you. I tried to be prefect in the eyes of God and guess it was God who said you will never be prefect.
It is ironic, the guy who wrote that, Solomon, ended up chasing after foreign women and their foreign gods, enslaving his people in His building programs (just as the pharaohs did). His heart was right in the beginning, he got His eyes off of God's provision and forgot the Lord his God. It is written, remember the Lord your God for it is He who you the ability/power to get wealth that He may establish His covenant in the Earth.
You are so right. Do not make me rich do not make me poor and remove every deceitful thing from my tongue. I have been praying this prayer for a while and some doors have been open as of late.
That is what she teaches along with the importance of our words lining up with God's Word. What we were hearing there was an illustration. She also teaches we are to prosper in every area of our life, not only finances but spiritually and socially. God's prosperity is a theme from Genesis to Revelation where it talks about the dangers of relying on and misusing money as well. God does not want anything taking the place of Him. He is to be our source. The rich and the poor alike both can be covetous.
From Jesus in the sermon on the mount Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Matthew 6:19-21...... Also recorded in Luke 12:32-34 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
LuvBorderCollies She is indeed preaching the name it and claim it, word of faith prosperity gospel... Which is absolutely NOT the True Biblical Gospel that Jesus taught. What's her education in Biblical Theology? She is in the same boat as Kenneth (Cult) Copeland, Benny (D'jinn) Hinn, Creflo (spiritually broke) Dollar, and Joel (prosperity pope) Osteen. Do they deny themselves, pickup their cross an die to self as they follow Jesus? Is Jesus really their LORD, the Master over them as slave? How can a servant use words of faith to control their Owner? They were bought for a price. They should not be focusing on the prices of things they should buy.
Jealousy over Gods blessings...she has helped millions of people with her words of encouragement for those who were abused. I am one of those millions of people whom she helped. She is of Pentecostal origin. You can do amazing things when you do the Lords bidding.
@@Matt-zp1jn What a distorted view. None of them are trying to control their master Jesus. They teach to take God at His word, which is exactly what Abraham did. Abraham even bargained with God for the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Jesus said if you abide in me and my words abide in you you will ask what you will and it shall be done for you. He makes our desires come in line with His will as we abide in Him.
I've been saying this for years! Some of the people in my church love her. Until or unless we read & study the Bible for ourselves, we will be prone to listen to whatever 'sounds Christian'".
You're right on. There were false teachers in the 1st century and will continue until Jesus sets up His 1000 years on earth, if I understand what the Bible says. Also we were never promised we would be wealthy, but to have our daily bread.
Most will not even read the words so long as they have someone else telling them what they want to hear. Truth is, they're afraid to read it for they might find out differently which will ruin their sense of false security. It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.
I watched her for a couple of years. Then I ran across a clip of a video where she was being interviewed. She was ask if she felt guilty that some of the money that she received might be from the elderly who really couldn't afford to give. Without any hesitation she replied why should I feel guilty? If they wanted to send it to me, why should I refuse? That struck me as cold and heartless. Just listening to the clip you played made me nauseated. If she chooses to live the good life on this Earth, that's on her. But to think she would knowingly take from the poor, that's rather low.
I've listened to many of her messages and she is a one trick pony. Always the same scriptures and how she was sexually abused by her father. I don't like the constant reference to money; buying shoes and teaching someone a life lesson, how Starbucks doesn't get her order correct so she had to learn patience, how she has to shop for many outfits because of all the tv episodes (can't wear the same item 2x), how the hotel spa lost her pants while she was getting a treatment done, the personal trainer she's had for 13 years and geting her nails done and going out for dinner. I hear subtle "in your face, look at me now" comments that are meant for past friends or family members that thought of her negatively at one time. She grew up in the charismatic age and knows the demographic that is the most vulnerable to her teachings and targets them with her messages and books (which she profits from). I find her videos too predictable, are often off point (she gets side tracked too easily) and I've even heard variations of the same story (pastor came to the house vs a dream she had that the pastor came to the house).
Paul knowing took from the Macedonians and used them as example when He said my God shall supply all your needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus. The Macedonians were in famine.
I remember Joyce being a guest in my parents’ home several times when I was a kid. I remember hearing her voice from the basement, where all us kids were playing; it was so shrill and bombastic, talking over everyone else. She was a stuck up, rude lady. My family knew her when she was just starting in ministry at Life Christian Center in St. Louis, Missouri. I’ll not forget those days. She, Rick Shelton and many others, were living really well, all the while telling struggling folks to give more so they, too, can live abundant lives.
I have listened to her for years. And my Church just brought out a series on False Faith Teachers. I was shocked to see Joyce Meyer. I went home and threw out everything. O am ashamed that I listened to her for so long and believed her. I am thankful I never let go of Jesus of went off the wall. I teach my children to read to Word every day and hear Jesus. Thank you for telling the truth
Azureblu 50: That is a fantastic statement. I would have never thought of that. I constantly go around commenting on things I have no idea what I am saying. Your keen sense of the obvious is outstanding. What elementary school do you go to.
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is biblical and speaking in tongues, but there are many False Teachers who hijack the authentic in order to turn you into merchandise 2 Peter 2:1-3 (see the older translations like the KJV or RSV to find the word NOT translated "exploit you", but "turn you into merchandise". So don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Just throw out the false teacher from your life.
There is nothing more dangerous than somebody who mixes his false Doctrine with the word of God. This is exactly what the big Cults like the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons do
I was in the health wealth Prosperity cult for a couple of years with my brother. Hank Hanegraaff and John MacArthur Junior helped us tremendously, but the biggest thing was actually reading our Bibles and realizing that what we were being taught did not line up with the scriptures. The breaking point was when someone tried to push me over who claimed to be a prophet and when I didn't fall over like I was dead they said I resisted the Holy Spirit LOL. I left all of my friends popularity and pretty girls behind while they all stayed in that cult. The truth will set you free
I read this verse in several translations thinking it sounded a little off as you presented it and found that this verse is almost a repudiation of those who give their money to wealthy pastors. However, it truly applies to those giving to the rich to gain influence or favor. Many of the prosperity preachers are simply conning the overall masses of their flocks, so I’m not in agreement about this 1/2 verse unless it is backed up with more scripture, even though I know prosperity preaching is not pleasing in The Lords sight. My $.02
Message version Micha 3:5-7 Here is God’s Message to the prophets, the preachers who lie to my people: “For as long as they’re well paid and well fed, the prophets preach, ‘Isn’t life wonderful! Peace to all!’ But if you don’t pay up and jump on their bandwagon, their ‘God bless you’ turns into ‘God damn you.’ Therefore, you’re going blind. You’ll see nothing. You’ll live in deep shadows and know nothing. The sun has set on the prophets. They’ve had their day; from now on it’s night. Visionaries will be confused, experts will be all mixed up. They’ll hide behind their reputations and make lame excuses to cover up their God-ignorance.”
Wow so agree! I have been born again for 26 yrs. To think when I was first saved I listened to them all!!!??? God removed me and my family from a church we had been in for years. I had put a certain woman Pastor on a pedestal. Then one morning in church she emotionally and spiritually abused me. I have chosen to forgive but...it was never the same again. The hard thing is...my Sister and Mum still go and everything has changed with us.
Walking with Jesus abiding in the truth isn't easy. We are hated. Be bold sister, but more than that be lovingly bold. Truth hurts, spankings hurt but it is for understanding. We are all called to test everything with scripture. Prayers on you and your family.
I was hoping this was the perspective you would take and I am grateful for you telling the truth in a soothing way. I listened to liars for years, filtering out what I knew was and wasn't right, but never had the courage to address the red flags until recently. Now I am addressing lies and liars. Thank you.
Death and life are in the power of the tongue; and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof. It means if you are using your tongue in a negative way, then that will bring negative ( death) fruit to you. If your using your tongue in a righteous positive way that will bring (Life) good fruit to you.
Jesus is the way the truth and the life. The life we speak is NOT material things it is Jesus . We can speak Jesus , the gospel which is life. God is not an ATM machine.
Susan S. I here so many preachers teaching us too invite JESUS CHRIST INTO OUR hearts. when I read the scriptures,it seems JESUS IS calling us too loose everything and anything that would prevent us from following HIM. AN this has too happen,if not we loose the life JESUS has planned out for us. What do u think?
@@jeffcarothers3048 No one who has left everything in this life shall not receive a hundred fold in this life, and in the age to come eternal life (my paraphrase). That was Jesus talking.
@@jeffcarothers3048 You posted... "JESUS IS calling us too loose everything and anything that would prevent us from following HIM. AND this has too happen, if not we loose the life JESUS has planned out for us. What do u think?" Mark 10:28 Peter began to say to Him, “Look, we have left everything and followed You.” 29“Truly I tell you,” said Jesus, “no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for My sake and for the gospel 30 will fail to receive a hundredfold in the present age-houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and fields, along with persecutions-and in the age to come, eternal life.… As you can see if we are willing to give up everything for God and the Gospel, God will restore. God wants us to keep our focus on Him, not the things He supplies. It will not however be without opposition.
Try preaching Joyce Mayers message on the “wallet” to the starving (literally), and persecuted Church. It wouldn’t encourage anyone there to carry on and endure. Thank you for making the twisting of Gods word so clear
I remind you of the starving widow who was told to make Elisha's cake first. She did and her pot of oil and flour did not run out for the rest of the remainder of the famine. God's principle for increasing in life has always been sowing and reaping. I is a theme through the entirety of the word of God in fact.
@K Gian How come, in applying giving in their the lives, the poor have been lifted out of their poverty? An example is the Macedonians who were starving (famine) who gave to Paul beyond their ability. Paul was using the Macedonians as an example when he said "for God loves a cheerful giver". If I follow your and Kathleen's reasoning Paul is made a liar. God's word will always be true as we apply it in our lives. It will always be dangerous to speak out against people who serve God. Look at Miriam when she spoke against Moses's for an example.
How come, in applying giving in their the lives, the poor have been lifted out of their poverty? An example is the Macedonians who were starving (famine) who gave to Paul beyond their ability. Paul was using the Macedonians as an example when he said "for God loves a cheerful giver". If I follow your and Kathleen's reasoning Paul is made a liar. God's word will always be true as we apply it in our lives. It will always be dangerous to speak out against people who serve God. Look at Miriam when she spoke against Moses's for an example.
Joyce Meyer does way more for others by her preaching, then you. Hearing her preach for the first Time, brought me Closer to God. Soo what! What everyone says, that woman saved what i was ready to throw away. God bless. I am happy today, thank you God for putting Joyce Meyer on my path Amen
Did you get saved by Joyce Myers? Or by the hearing of God's word? Now, use discernment and weigh what you hear by the reading of God's word. Be like a Berean!
@@jeffbisher8298 witch ever...isn't God's will to put on my path her preaching? Sometimes we just need to hear a preaching or a nice Word from someone...4 a little motivation in able to get back to bible studing🙏 Anyways, this is what i went threw and still going thru.
I have to tell the world that after l made that last comment, I just uncontrollably started crying like a baby! It was like resergance of the holy spirit. I think something wonderful just happened! Hallelujah! Amen!
Oh Hank, been listening to you for decades. My grandmother listened to The Bible Answer Man on the radio and also J Vernon McGee. HAHAHA. What a voice he had. THANK YOU for the wealth of education over the years that kept me grounded.
I find it impossible to believe any biblical teacher who states that she herself is NOT a sinner. That is heresy, utterly opposed to the scriptures. On her audio tape "From the Cross to the Throne", Joyce Meyer states adamantly that she is NOT a sinner: "All I was ever taught to say was I a poor miserable sinner. I am NOT poor, I am NOT miserable, and I am NOT a sinner -- that is a lie from the pit of hell, that is what I were and if I still was, then Jesus died in vain. I'm gonna tell you something, folks: I didn't stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn't a sinner anymore.". Compare that with the bible: 1 John 1:8 says "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.". Romans 3:23 says "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.".
actually, Kitty Kitty, what she is saying is that Christ went to the cross once and that was all that was needed. She is saying that she doesn't view her Savior as someone who needs to keep going back to the cross every time she makes a mistake. She is 100% correct is this. Before I was saved, I was poor, wretched sinner. I am redeemed by my savior's blood and resurrection. I am no longer that poor wretched sinner. I am a new creation in Christ. Do I still sin? of course I do, but the price has been paid and once was all that was needed. Colossians 3:12-17, 1 Peter 2:9
@@Suswaleh I just have a couple of questions for you. Do you still sin? Do you not still have the sin nature within you? Are you not still going through the sanctification process? When does the sanctification process end? Finally, what do you call a person who sins? You call them a sinner. When God looks at a Christian, He sees the blood of Jesus covering the person. He or she is justified by the blood. He or she will still sin. The biggest concern is, do they still have a conscience? If they do, they will learn to hate that sin and continue to struggle until they overcome. This is what makes the Christian life so hard. Remember what the apostle Paul said? He said, "Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin." Romans 7:20-25 I hope this encourages you! 😇🙏
Kitty Kitty The Bible teaches that we are all sinners in Adam but in Christ sin no longer has dominion over us. We aren’t sinners when he have crossed over from the power of darkness into His marvelous light. We are free, children of the most high. We must develop a walk in the Spirit in order to experience the freedom that He has provided us through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ
that's just magical hooy. I have a whole slew of genetic disorders and more going on in my life. But I am rich in spirit and live an abundant life. Praise God.
I am going to be..... what ever The Lord Almighty has in His will for me. NOT what Joyce Meyer tells me to talk to! My wallet will stay empty if that is Gods will and I am happy with that because All I and everyone else needs is Him. 😊🙌
If your wallet is empty than how ARE you going to BLESSothers the poor or give TITHE AND OFFERINGS TO GOD READ MALACHI WHOLE BOOK . GOD BLESSED ABRAHAM HE IS NO RESPECTOR OF PERSONS
Victoria Charlesworth Yep! If we are sharing the infinite wealth of the Gospel and leading others to the cross, discipling and following Jesus, instead of Joyce, we will be spiritually rich! If our wallet is empty of physical wealth but have Jesus, we are rich indeed! :)
Joe Riley Talking to your "wallet" to increase your physical wealth is wrong, over the calling of spiritual wealth/relationship with Jesus and spreading the Gospel. Not chasing after physical prosperity and the things of this world. Deny yourself daily and follow Him. Those that die to self and the things of this world, will have life in heaven with Christ.
I see in some versions of this quote the word “simply,” and I believe it clarifies both of your positions: we can’t look only for the black and white difference between clear right and clear wrong, because the Deceiver uses “almost” to instill doubt about what God says and what our appropriate response should be. “Almost” right is still wrong. An “almost” truth has the power to destroy.
One constant in all these preachers. They all live lavish lifestyles while hitting up people who are just getting by up for more money. That should tell you all you need to know. If you spend the time to know the word yourself then getting caught in false teachings isn't as easy. We'll all give an account one day.
My mother gave her heart to the Lord a few years ago because of Joyce Meyers bible teaching. My mother was a hard core bitter liberal old woman...then while we were taking care of her as her hospice care...she asked me to come into her room and shared with me that she believed in Jesus Christ as her Savior and she prayed the sinners prayer to be named one of Gods children because of the Word being shared by Joyce Meyer. John McCarther admitted years ago...we all are going to be surprise how wrong a lot of us were in our doctrine. To me...Joyce Meyer is teaching Malachi 3...on general tithing or giving.
McArthur has committed the unpardonable sin over and over. Whatever he says, must be discounted. Definitely! People come to the LORD through non-Christian words and events that have nothing to do with preaching or church. That does not justify those things as being from God. God even used Pharoh for His glory, but that did not justify Pharoh in God's eyes. Pharoh was NOT cooperating with the true and Living God and neither is Meyers or she would obey God's own testimony that says SHE MUST NOT TEACH MEN!
Hahaha. Your mom then went on to give all of your inheritance to Joyce Meyer so Joyce Meyer could build another heated swimming pool for her and her children who don't work as hard as you do. It's her money though. Personally, when I give money to charity, I check to see where that charity spends its money. If less than 80% of the donations go to help the poor, I don't give to the charity. In Joyce Meyer ministries, she takes most of the money. Why would God want you to give money to a church that primarily only helps one person who's already rich? That's being a poor steward of your money, isn't it?
@@TheRootedWord Wow! You think that women are to shut up ...to keep their mouths shut ! I ! Such a shallow "religious" mind ! We are ALL equal in God's eyes! ! Get the Bible out and start reading the New Testament ...NOT just Marthew, Mark, Luke and John ... You will definitely be surprised. Ask the Holy Spirit to help you when you do read God's Word ! And you say Joyce Meyer is a false teacher! ! ! ? ? Check yourself ! ! God bless you ❤ Shalom
The glory does not belong to Joyce Meyer that God used her words to move your mother's heart to accept Jesus Christ. God used the unnatural speech of a donkey to stave off the prophet's madness. That did not make the donkey either a teacher or any kind of position of office in the Kingdom of God. It made ONLY those few words at that instant that God put into his mouth a temporary and direct instrument. Everything else from that donkey was foolish hee-hawing and meaningless - like Joyce Meyers. The glory is the Holy Spirit's. In this case, Joyce Meyer was teaching to a woman and that was appropriate. However, it is not just saying the sinner's prayer that saves us. John MacArthur, that snake, may have said something witty and diplomatically agreeable by all, but he is way off base in his teachings about salvation and the Holy Spirit. Your best chance at actually receiving salvation when you pass from this corruptible body is to read the Scriptures, ignore the American teachers calling themselves "Christian", and do what Jesus our Lord and the Apostles said to do.
Matthew 21: 21 So Jesus answered and said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, 'Be removed and be cast into the sea,' it will be done. 22 "And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." Mark 10:29 So Jesus answered and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's,
Who was He talking to? The disciples. They were about the establish the church in the earth. Great things needed to be done. They had a special anointing on their lives. Most of them died because of their faith. Are you telling everyone that you have that call on your life? Please rethink and pray about your position.
I think the Bible already explains this ,people who are not born of the spirit ( born again) have only the power of the flesh working in them, those who are born of the spirit have the power of God which is the Holy Spirit and a New man or inner man which is a new being created in us when we are born again. As we have also inherited original sin from, Adam, we also inherited our flesh or carnal nature which is the fifth column in very Christian (an enemy within ) This is why Paul warned the Galatians about " beginning in spirit ending in the flesh " . Galatians 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? If you end in the flesh you are not abiding in the true wine which is Christ and in day of judgement he will separate those who abide in the true wine and bore fruits from those who did not bear fruits once saved all aways saved is myth if we end in the flesh we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven John 15 1-4 “I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me." For we are warned that in the last days there will be many who will fall from the true faith by seduced by deceiving spirits. The where seduced by deceiving spirits because they never chastised their flesh which will always be the fifth column till the day our Lord returns. If we do not follow the guidance of the holy spirit in every aspect of our life, then we will end in flesh holy spirit was given to us not Only to lead us in prayer or to speak in tongues but also to guide us in every aspect of life and we need the power of God to overcome the flesh, the world and Satan . If we are not lead by the spirit then our flesh will take over. For Jesus spoke of people are neither warm or cold this refers to Christians who have the power of flesh working in them and never allowed the spirit to chastise their flesh
Yeah it's funny how they never mention that Jesus didn't even have a place to lay his head, when you read the Gospels it records Jesus sleeping outside overnight and he didn't even have a penny, remember when he asked whose image it was on a penny and then he told the disciples to render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's? Hoses 4:6, my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge. 1Tim 6:6-10 is very clear about being content with what you have and desiring to be rich.
@@jesuslovesmegalatians2205 Hank Hanegraaff is mean I don't think she's born again all he wants to do is point his finger at Spirit-filled Christians Joyce is a beautiful person
@@petrtsioma9828 if I wasn't a Christian I'd say shut up Hank Hanegraaff you're always trying to put down Spirit-filled Christians let's examine your life! You're about as religious as they come and religious people nailed Jesus on Cross how do you feel about the baptism in the Holy Ghost people speaking in tongues people getting healed oh you've got something bad to say about everybody doesn't match up with your religious straight jacket you are the accuser and that persons name is Satan
@@peggymcpherson5112dear friend pls hear me out without prejudice , I too believe she is born again, but the But we are warned born again Christians may also end in the flesh, the lukewarm Christians in rev are also examples of those who are born again and those who are still controlled by the flesh, pls read John chapter 15, we must abide in christ to produce good fuirts, to abide in christ imply to live like him . its very imp to note prosperity gospel is a heresy which satisfies the lust of the flesh and in way nourishes our inner man(new being in christ when we are born again ) and is miles away from the narrow path that leads to life, pls note we already been warned of another Jesus and another gospel and another spirit .christ died for sins and became a curse for us on the cross so that we may escape the corruption and bondage of sin in order to be lead by the holy spirit not compromise with the world. Christ commanded us to be disciples, not those who go to church on Sundays, but Christ himself said those who want to be my disciples must first count the cost. For Jesus himself said those who love him will obey him, those who do not love him will not obey him. Dear friend does the prosperity gospel line up with the gospel which Jesus preached to the contrary this what our flesh lust after. If we are to be his disciples our love for him must be greater than the love we have for our own life, our own spouse, children and parents. We must deny our self ie subdue ( carnal nature ) and carry our cross (to do Gods will ) daily. Jesus meant when he said whoever drinks the water I give will never thirst (pls read John 4:4-26 and John 7:37-39). if you filled with holy spirit no adversities, trial and tribulation will quench the joy of the holy spirit. Just like how a river overflows, other believers can also feel the joy presence of the holy ghost. we are not saved by our good works unlike other religions but saved for good works i.e. to Gods will or producing good fruits that can only be possible if we abide in Christ. This what Paul when he that our outer man/carnality perishes and our inner man i.e. new being in Christ grows daily.2 Corinthians 4: 16 pls see Is christ teaching a yoke? For christ himself said my yoke is easy and my burden is light, for christ promised the other helper the holy spirit to those who love him and obey him, he will be the supernatural helper who God will send to help us overcome the flesh and the world. If we are lead by the spirit we will walk in the narrow path, that christ himself said very few will find, our inner man will grow daily and we will be doing Gods will, and this is what Jesus meant , that th9se who drink the water I give will never this again (may never desire anything else )as the holy spirit fills them and they will overflow with joy and peace christ is gift from God to those who do his will. Pls not one cannot abide in christ and the property gospel at the same time
I hope The Lord our Savior Jesus Christ continues to hold you up brother Hannegraff. I want you to know how much your right dividing The Word of truth has helped me run this race and stay the course. I wish I had the space in this post to tell you how much the WOF teaching has negatively effected my life. Praise be to God for your ministry.
The WOF, generally speaking, challenges us to consider scriptures that others have swept under the carpet( without explanation). They are admittedly hard topics, but well worthwhile studying. You have found a fellowship that says it is OK to ignore things in the Bible instead of explaining them: they ought not to be thanked for this; you will need these "WOF" passages to fight future battles as you grow older, and you will not be prepared.
The WOF, generally speaking, challenges us to consider scriptures that others have swept under the carpet( without explanation). They are admittedly hard topics, but well worthwhile studying. You have found a fellowship that says it is OK to ignore things in the Bible instead of explaining them: they ought not to be thanked for this; you will need these "WOF" passages to fight future battles as you grow older, and you will not be prepared.
The WOF, generally speaking, challenges us to consider scriptures that others have swept under the carpet( without explanation). They are admittedly hard topics, but well worthwhile studying. You have found a fellowship that says it is OK to ignore things in the Bible instead of explaining them: they ought not to be thanked for this; you will need these "WOF" passages to fight future battles as you grow older, and you will not be prepared.
Most of the time she sounds like a classic motivational speaker that you would hear at a Dale Carnegie class or one of those classes like you have infinite power or something like that. She uses typical motivational power language.
Joyce Meyer agrees with the worst heretical teaching in 'Word of Faith': She says “You know, I was listening to a set of tapes by one man and he explained it like this, and I think this kind of gets the point across, he said, ‘Why do people have such a fit about God calling His creation, His man-not His whole creation, but His man-little gods? If He’s God, what’s He going to call them but the god-kind?’ I mean, if you as a human being have a baby, you call it a human kind. If cattle has another cattle, they call it cattle-kind. So, I mean, what’s God supposed to call us? Doesn’t the Bible say we’re created in his image? Now, you understand I am not saying you are God with a capital G.” (Joyce Meyer, Authority and Opposition, audio tape number 1236.) The God of the Bible teaches that ALL other gods are false gods. One can only guess which Word of Faith (Prosperity Gospel) teacher Meyer was listening to! Was it Copeland, Hagin, Dollar, Duplantis etc etc? They all teach this HERESY. ua-cam.com/video/TFgVTnlP-0A/v-deo.html .
We have been made in the image and likeness of God. In the Psalms it says we are gods, small g. We are gods in the sense that we decree things and they are established.
@Craig Laycox I was referring to asking for affirmation of the crowd, as the author of the tread was, not her doctrines. Craig you like to argue for argument's sake.
@@girlbornagain9587 I would place you in that category. The Bible is very balanced in the area of prosperity and not coveting. God definitely does want to bless and prosper His people, but He does not want us to get our eyes off of Him as our source of supply.
When sound doctrine is being taught by the power of the spirit is has the most humbling effect on the hearers . It exhalts God the father and the Lord Jesus and should bring man low by the illumination of there increased understanding of God being revealed by a Holy spirit led Teacher. Many preachers today esp on TV who are preaching messages which apeal to the fleshly mind and its desires . If you want to pack a church today it seems you just have to preach health wealth and prosperity . Things that people who have no profession desire . Test all things by the written word and prayer as we have the biblical characters and apostles lives as examples .
She preaches way more things than that, she humbles herself on stage and encourages others to humble themselves. She is constantly using humour and her negative traits as examples to get people to look inward and see their faults and look to God for correction. She also uses apostles and Jesus as examples in every sermon.
amen, I was listening to a preacher creflo dollar, his words sounded very advertising, my mind was like woop woop amen, yes I don't got to be sick, I don't got to be poor... lol but as ausome as it sounded my spirit was tugging me telling me to get out of my mind and feelings , it was my flesh that was amening his words because they were lovley words I mean who wouldn't want to be rich and healthy and heal people.... but blessed am I for the lords spirit that pulls me back into the reality of his spirit, and gives me the strength to not pray to remove all my problems but pray too help me rise above them by enjoying his life in me... it was through my "problems" that I was drawn closer to the lord :) how amazing and mysterious he is that somehow in the midst of what seems like hell he stirs up my spirit and instead of wollowing in self pitty I praise him! :) oh lord Jesus thank you
I'm sorry, Wendy, but your comment is not focused. You are trying to tell us numerous scenarios and wandering. As a reader I would like to suggest that your writing have one major point and that you expand slightly on it. Then conclude with an appropriate ending. You do sound like a nice person that is very dedicated to the Lord, and this method would help folks get your viewpoint a little better.
I've never understood why people equate being rich/or wealthy with happiness? We live in a material culture that tells us we have to have material wealth to be happy. I'm not saying that it's wrong to have nice things, or to be blessed with an abundance, but happiness does not come from wealth or prosperity. Nor should we feel like we're unblessed if God only supplies us with our basic needs. If we have a roof over our heads, food in our stomach, and clothes on our back, we should be thankful and content with our blessings. Many people in the world lack even the basic necessities for survival. I've never been someone who feels like I need the fanciest house, or the fanciest car to be happy in life. Many people go into the military because they feel God has called them to sacrifice their lives to protect other people. These soldiers go through difficult military training, and many other discomforts and inconveniences. Some of them go through pure living hell, loose their life, or their limbs. Are they any less blessed than you and I because they sacrificed their lives, dreams, and personal ambitions, to protect other people? No I would say they are more blessed than other people. They are heroes, and Saints.
You mentioned the applauds coming from the audience, I watched several of her enjoying everyday life programs & noticed that the front row is full of her staff and some family members. I call them the cheerleaders, sitting closest to the microphones.
I think the Bible already explains this ,people who are not born of the spirit ( born again) have only the power of the flesh working in them, those who are born of the spirit have the power of God which is the Holy Spirit and a New man or inner man which is a new being created in us when we are born again. As we have also inherited original sin from, Adam, we also inherited our flesh or carnal nature which is the fifth column in very Christian (an enemy within ) This is why Paul warned the Galatians about " beginning in spirit ending in the flesh " . Galatians 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? If you end in the flesh you are not abiding in the true wine which is Christ and in day of judgement he will separate those who abide in the true wine and bore fruits from those who did not bear fruits once saved all aways saved is myth if we end in the flesh we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven John 15 1-4 “I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me." For we are warned that in the last days there will be many who will fall from the true faith by seduced by deceiving spirits. The where seduced by deceiving spirits because they never chastised their flesh which will always be the fifth column till the day our Lord returns. If we do not follow the guidance of the holy spirit in every aspect of our life, then we will end in flesh holy spirit was given to us not Only to lead us in prayer or to speak in tongues but also to guide us in every aspect of life and we need the power of God to overcome the flesh, the world and Satan . If we are not lead by the spirit then our flesh will take over. For Jesus spoke of people are neither warm or cold this refers to Christians who have the power of flesh working in them and never allowed the spirit to chastise their flesh
Are you trying to imply most people won't relate or like her sermons and that it's a trick? Her audience is huge and people at home watch on tv and youtube.
I always knew from the first time I saw her she was evil. Something about her just screamed demonic. Now that I herd what she said, it’s no doubt in my mind that she’s teaching a wicked doctrine straight from hell.
Hank thank you for directing people to the Word to test all things. Thank you also for taking the arrows that so many people are shooting at you and your ministry.
It is sad that the "equality" and "fairness" mentality has over taken the church as well. When a Christian exposes ERROR and false doctrine, they are branded by the followers of false teachers as haters and judges. We are commanded to watch for "another gospel" and any teaching that deviates from what Jesus or the Apostles taught. Many of the WOF "prophets" can go on for hours without ever once quoting a Scripture in context. They are great story tellers and easy to listen to, but WHAT they are teaching is not sound Bible doctrine. WOF did not exist in Jesus' day, nor did the disciples teach such. And you can not find any where in the Bible showing that all believers were HEALTHY and WEALTHY! If it were meant to be for ALL believers, then Paul, writer of most of our New Testament would have had it. He, however, had an ailment or "thorn in the flesh" that he was never relieved of. Obviously, Word of Faith was not taught or believed by him!
I think the Bible already explains this people who are not born of the spirit ( born again) have only the power of the flesh working in them, those who are born of the spirit have the power of God which is the Holy Spirit and a New man or inner man which is a new being created in us when we are born again. As we have also inherited original sin from, Adam, we also inherited our flesh or carnal nature which is the fifth column in very Christian (an enemy within ) This is why Paul warned the Galatians about " beginning in spirit ending in the flesh " . Galatians 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? If you end in the flesh you are not abiding in the true wine which is Christ and in day of judgement he will separate those who abide in the true wine and bore fruits from those who did not bear fruits once saved all aways saved is myth if we end in the flesh we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven John 15 1-4 “I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me." For we are warned that in the last days there will be many who will fall from the true faith by seduced by deceiving spirits. The where seduced by deceiving spirits because they never chastised their flesh which will always be the fifth column till the day our Lord returns. If we do not follow the guidance of the holy spirit in every aspect of our life, then we will end in flesh holy spirit was given to us not Only to lead us in prayer or to speak in tongues but also to guide us in every aspect of life and we need the power of God to overcome the flesh, the world and Satan . If we are not lead by the spirit then our flesh will take over. For Jesus spoke of people are neither warm or cold this refers to Christians who have the power of flesh working in them and never allowed the spirit to chastise their flesh Rev 13:6 KJV "So then because of thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." Pls read Matthew 25:14-30 The Parable of the Talents John 15 full chapter Abiding in the Vine which is christ we are expected to follow a narrow path and obey God's commandments ie love your lord your God with all your heart and soul and to love your neighbours including your enemies as your self it is hard to follow this as our flesh would be the greatest hindrance to this commandment as our flesh wants to be glorified itself rather than glorify God . It impossible for man to do this on his own will as by nature we are sinful and it would lead to self-righteousness and pride can only achieve this with the supernatural power of God and through power the holy spirit our guide and helper. hence we must take great care in overcoming our flesh and world for God promised the kingdom of God and eternal life for those who overcome till the very end. The proof that we are following the narrow path to life is our character we are supposed to bear good fruit ie love, patience, understanding, good judgment, wisdom , hate for sin and injustice , patiently preaching the word to those who are mislead by satan with love and concern , praying for your enemies and those who wrong you and for giving them , repenting from your sins , etc
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God. I don't want to be rich...NO! Prosperity Preaching is, well, all about money and as we all know, the love of money is the root of all evil. You can have all this world, just give me Jesus.
We should make it abundantly clear to all children that they must follow the true teaching of Jesus. Where through him, they will pray to God (always safely and in secret) and also learn from him, the best way to live their lives. Well away from all religions, including Christianity; which are led by the many fake prophets, who only want their cash donations… “If you have ears to hear; then hear.” - (Mark 4: 9) - “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where it grows rusty and moth-eaten, and thieves will break in to steal it. Store up treasure in heaven, where there is no moth and no rust to spoil it, no thieves to break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” - (Matthew 6: 19-20) - “Beware of false prophets; men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (Matthew 7: 15-16) - “God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (John 4: 24) - “Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) - “The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 10) - “Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…” - (Matthew 24: 4) - “Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) - “I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” - (John 14: 6-7) - “When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you. In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard. Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him. This is how you should pray: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven, Give us today our daily bread, And forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us. And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one. For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever. Amen. For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (Matthew 6: 6-15) - “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) - “Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) - “Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets. Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.” - (Matthew 7: 12-14) - “I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe.” - (John 10: 9) - “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” - (Matthew 7: 21) - “I am the resurrection and I am life. If a man has faith in me, even though he dies, he shall come to life; and no one who is alive and has faith shall ever die.” - (John 11: 25-26) - “I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world” - (John 12: 47) - “Whoever then will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) - “Someone said, ‘your mother and brothers are here outside; they want to speak to you.’ Jesus turned to the man who brought the message, and said, ‘Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?’ and pointing to the disciples, he said, ‘Here are my mother and my brothers. Whoever does the will of my heavenly Father is my brother, my sister, my mother.’” - (Matthew 12: 47-50) - “The disciples came and asked Jesus, ‘Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’ He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me. If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) - “An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself. Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) - “There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.” - (John 15: 13) - "Stay awake, and pray that you may be spared the test: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." - (Matthew 26: 41) - “Teach them to observe all that I have commanded you. And be assured, I am with you always, to the end of time.” - (Matthew 28: 20) - “One of the criminals who hung there also mocked and taunted him: ‘Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself, and us!’ But the other criminal rebuked him. ‘Have you no fear of God? You are under the same sentence as he. For us it is plain justice; we are paying the price for our misdeeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.’ And he said, ‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ He answered, “I tell you this: today you shall be with me in Paradise.’” - (Luke 23: 39-43) - “For it is my Father’s will that everyone who looks upon the Son and puts his faith in him shall possess eternal life; and I will raise him up on the last day” - (John 6: 40) - Yours always, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, Sunday the 27th of January, 2019: - (Matthew 5:14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you…
I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with speaking positively. But I don't think your checkbook hears you when you speak to it. If you're a salesman, and you're attitude is positive, more than likely you'll get positive results. I believe if you tithe and give offerings from a sincere heart, God will bless you because He has found a vessel through which He can bless others. It's a part of His kingdom. But speaking money into bank accounts and checkbooks isn't God's prosperity model.
HJ Rhoades She didn't mean to literally prophecy or pray over your check book. She is teaching a message of faith and believing, not in money but in the Lord. This is what happens when you get someone like Hank who only plays part of the message and not all of it. It can easily be taken out of context, twisted and used to serve their own Christian hating agenda.
Adam Goodword She is absolutely talking about speaking to your pocketbook. And she got it from another female prosperity teacher (unfortunately, I can't think of her name) who teaches the idea even more passionately. When Jesus told us that with faith we could move a mountain, He was obviously talking metaphorically.
Way to take her message out of context! If you listened to her on a regular basis you would know that she battled cancer and a brother's suicide. I am a changed person thanks to the Holy Spirit using her messages to bless me! We are tithing and now have more than enough so that for the first time in our lives we can financially bless others. She admits she's not where she wants to be but is so thankful to her Father, she's not where she used to be. She had a horrible start in life but through the grace of God she is pressing on. I've never failed to be blessed by a single message of hers in its entirety!
How can you take any Scripture out of context, twist it, lie about it & make it right regardless Roxanne. Show me anywhere we're told to give the Lord 10% tithes in the new covenant. Show me or just keep giving. Maybe she'll buy her a new jet with it. Christians, learn the word for yourselves. Stop taking man's word for everything.
Tammy Henson All donations go to her ministry. This can be seen as they give an account of their budget info to partners annually. The profits from her books pay for the rest. If under the law we were commanded to give 10%,what do you think we should be giving under grace? You can't out give God. Try it. The New Testament doesn't nullify the Old. Since we've been giving God at the very least 10%, we have been blessed 100 fold. Have you even listened to any of her programs or read a book she's written? God commands us in the New testament (1John 4:1) to "Not put faith in every spirit, but test the spirits to discover whether they proceed from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the word." How? Keep reading the next verse. "By this you may know the Spirit of God; every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has become man, and has come in the flesh is of God." Joyce confesses this in every book and show. Furthermore in 1 John 4:6, God in His Word says, "We are children of God. Whoever is learning to know God listens to us; and he who is not of God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of Truth and the spirit of error."
Gage Kinard God spoke the world in to existence and we are made in His image. Words are powerful. God's word is powerful. God's word spoken by us is powerful. This ruckus is ridiculous. Most people who are dissing Joyce have not really heard her enough to be her judge.
AGAIN, speaking PROSPERITY into existence is not in ANY context Biblical. I didn't say a think about God speaking the world into existence. For one thing, we are NOT God (and I've heard a clip somewhere where Meyer describes us a "little gods." Maybe you haven't seem enough of her stuff.) and we have no authority over stuff like that. Two, prosperity is NOT God's word. And three, if you hear Meyer speak, and you actually READ the Bible, you don't need to hear more of her stuff after the first false teaching. Also, if you actually read your Bible, you would already know that women are not even supposed to be preachers. Get into the Bible, not Joyce Meyer's garbage.
That should be known because people has the idea that when they got saved all would be well. The person got saved and got sick and had to retire from work because of his sickness he could not work again and therefore was terribly disappointed in his salvation.
Everything she says is not wrong. She is trying to help people APPLY the teachings in the Bible. I listen to her for that reason. But I listen to other preachers like Paul Washer for messages on the Cross. I can't continually listen to a preacher who is stuck at the cross and how to obtain salvation. You learn that, by alll means and get it down good, then you learn how to work out your salvation and how to live by The Word in your daily llife
So grateful Joyce Meyer's & Joel Osteen & the lot are finally being revealed for who they really are. I'm surrounded by so many who eat everything they say up like it's truer than the Real Word of God. I speak against her & people think I'm a crazy radical nutjob. So sad.
Study your word. The tithe in the old testament was a tithe of the land not money. It was to support the priest. PLEASE, I beg you church STUDY your Bible! If you don't...you will be deceived and that's what these prosperity teacher want...they want you to remain ignorant of the truth of God's word, as a matter of fact...they are BANKING on it.
@@edplaysdrums8435 Ed study your old testament. When God divided the land between the 12 tribes of Israel, He didn't give any land to the Levites, the priest, they were supported by the land tithe. Others later tithes their first fruits. Since most people were indeed farmers, as you put it, they tithes their land. I believe it was every seven years, but I'm not sure. I have read through the whole Bible and do not remember reading about a money tithe. God's new testament tithe is to give as it is laid on your heart, NOT OUT OF NECESSITY, like these prosperity teachers try to preach. Yes give. Give to feed widows and orphans, the poor and needy, not to help some liar buy another Bentley. I reiterate, read your Bible. you should know that The God of integrity would never have anything to do with this mess we see today.
You can have it all like she does but you have to make a covenant with the Devil. I have 11 children from one marriage I’m now 76 The Lord has been good to me always. I have seen Gods hand in my life so often but most when I went through a deep valley. I had no income whatsoever for 2 years with 11 small children. However every day we had everything we needed. My Lord took care of all my needs everyday. It was the best time of my life. I have seen so many miracles happen before my own eyes. After 2 year we had income again. My wife said: “one thing of all we sold I miss, that is the antique clock.” The clock had a special sentimental value for us. I said: “let me see if I can buy one the same.” Yah she said: “but it will never be the same.” I went to the store but there was no Clock even not one that looked like it. So I asked the owner if he still knew me. Yes he said. So I asked if he ever get a clock the same as I sold him. To my surprise he answered: “It is at my house, My wife took it home.” I did get it back for the same money as I got for it. The Lord knew that my wife would miss it and kept it for us. It is only by the Holy Spirit that we can understand that God the Creator of all things Sent His Only Begotten Son for us to Die at the cross for our sins; and come to know the forgiveness of sins for all those who put their faith and trust in Him. I feel so sad for people who Mock with God and the Lord Jesus.
Marius VanWoerden "You can have it all like she does but you have to make a covenant with the Devil. I have 11 children..." Tis' you who made a covenant with the devil; you sound like a card carrying member of the "Quiverfuull" sect, you have no self- control and inflict the consequences of your lust on helpless children and a burdened wife- shame!
@@BeachsideHank You are just clueless that is all I can say. Non of my children is helpless they all have done very well and we are extremely happy and love the Lord and each other. We could not miss one of us.
@@MariusVanWoerden You're the clueless one, a little education instead of ignorant self- indulgence would have given your wife some better odds: "Women who have more than one or two children increase their risk of a major heart attack in future by as much as 40 per cent, UK researchers have found. The study by academics at the University of Cambridge showed the biggest risks were to mothers with five or more children, but increased with each successive child. Pregnancy and childbirth each put significant strain on the heart, the researchers suggest, and this is in addition to the stress and demands of *raising a larger family* which leaves less time for self-care. Having five or more children was also associated with a 30 per cent increased risk of heart disease - the major cause of heart attacks - as well as a 25 per cent increased risk of stroke and a 17 per cent increase in the risk of heart failure compared with one or two children."
So how is what Joyce Meyer said supposedly heresy? Didn't Jesus say that if you had faith as a mustard seed that you could speak to the mountain and it would be thrown into the sea? Didn't he also say that if his words abide in you and you abide in him, that you could ask what you will and it shall be done for you? Doesn't proverbs say that if you cast your bread upon the waters that it will return to you after many days? Does God want us to be poor, is there any blessing or joy in poverty? If we invest in his kingdom and exercise our talents, will they not come back to us? This man is making excuses in this case because he perhaps does not have faith to cast his bread upon the waters. Sounds good doesn't it? The little boy invested his lunch (fishes and loaves) and Jesus multiplied it, didn't he? In Joyce Meyers' case, she provides real world testimony of cases when she gave into God's kingdom and it was paid back to her. Do you believe her? Has this radio host tried what she has suggested, even once? A person can take the Word and choose any preconceived notion that they want, but it is not necessarily faithful. What did Jesus believe? He said that we could do what he did, so long as we abide in Him and exercise faith, and speaking, faith and giving are all a part of the blessings available to us. God spoke the universe into existence, we are made in his image and redemption through faith makes is available to us, and faith (within his will) must be exercised in order to grow and be effective.
Joyce Meyer abandoned Jesus army, and she has enrolled(maybe not even realizing) in Satan's army, deceiving herself and unfortunately deceiving her listeners. May God open your eyes, Joyce, untill is not too late for you.
I would like to add that J.M. saying words have power is right out of the word of faith false doctrine, Kenneth Copland. A person can make thier mouth say anything. That doesn't mean that a person can create reality with words. That is a God thing ,ONLY.
Well I'm certainly not a bible scholar and I don't generally defend any tv preachers as in never but as per your comment about words and reality. The opposite of reality is fantasy. The power of life and death are in the tongue, sure doesn't give the appearance of fantasy, at least to me.
I have studied Pastor Hank Hanegraaff books and teaching for over 30 years. He teaches Christian Apologetics. Apologetics. ( Greek ) means a system of discourse in defence of the doctrine and theology and writings of the early Christians. +
it's all very simple really; a vicious cycle. she preaches prosperity, which appeals to the greed of her congregation prompting them to make more donations. becsuse of the excessive donations she is able to model the doctrine of "blessings" she preaches which appeals even more to her congregation prompting them to give even more than they had given before. then the cycle continues.
Joyce Meyer is wonderful. Dont take 2 minutes out of an hour long message and talk about context. Before you criticise Joyce Meyer please listen to a few of her sermons in full.
+Sandra D He stated at the very beginning of the video that he was not saying all of what she taught was wrong, but that she mixes in heresy throughout her teaching. That is why he pulled out this 2 mins, to show the heresy she is mixing in with the good.
+Sandra D Sandra they are just trolls trying to make her look bad. We all know Joyce is a godly person. Just because you are a pastor doesn't mean you cant have money. People misquote that scripture all the time.
Jarrod McKinney Do you believe that as Christians we are little gods? Do you believe that after Jesus died on the cross he went to hell and was tortured by satan and his demons in hell for three days till God said "enough" and rose Jesus from the dead? Do you believe those things? Because that is just a little of the unbiblical teaching that Joyce teaches.
You don't need to listen to an hour long message to realise that she has taken God's Word completely out of context. That is the issue. I have heard enough of her teaching to realise that she peddles God's Word
Im not saying that she's right or wrong in this instance, but for anyone listening to her, if God is first in their lives and they listen to the voice of God, then what does it matter if she gets it wrong at times? I don't agree that everything she teaches is scripturally sound, but she speaks from her heart and has encouraged thousands and helped pull them from despair, myself included. Therefore I can only say I am grateful for her confessions that have encouraged me.
Thank you, Hank. I would not have caught that. She does say some good stuff, and she is a remarkable lady, to say the least, but there are so few true bible expositors left..... you are a Godsend
The Word clearly tells us: That "Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits" (Proverbs 18:21). Of course, the "tongue" in this verse represents that which tongues produce: words. Jesus affirmed that "on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned" (Matthew 12:36-37). The words we speak will either build us up or tear us down (Proverbs 10:14; 13:2-3). Our tongue will either bring blessings or curses upon us-from both God and man-in both the present time and for eternity. So, what she was talking about with regards to what we say coming to pass is being in agreement with the Word of God, Having said that what she preached’ about the prosperity, about money, I totally disagreed with. I used to listen to her quite a lot in my earlier times when I came to the Lord but I don’t anymore. I pray in Jesus name that our Lord and Saviour will open up her eyes to see what Jesus wants her to see and open up her ears to hear Jesus’ voice alone. If we see that she is not adhering to Scriptures, please as children of God, let’s pray for her. May be these people don’t even realise that they’ve fallen into deception. May the Lord Jesus deliver us from all false doctrines and grace us not to ever compromise His Gospel, or our relationship with Him. Lord please guide Joyce Myer in Your ways for your name’s sake. Show her the TRUTH Oh Lord, and Your great love and mercy towards her and her own, for You don’t want anyone to perish but everyone to have eternal life in Jesus name. Amen.
Amen. I totally agree with you. Joyce appears to be most sincere. She's vulnerable and shares her flaws etc. and seems genuinely concerned for others' walk with God. Nobody is 100% correct. I believe she is doing her best. Good references on the tongue. I believe our words matter much more than we think. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand the Bible--God created the Universe by SPEAKING IT INTO EXISTENCE. Good post Red Ross!
So how do you explain Romans 4:17? Cuz the verse says “EVEN God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.” So why does it say EVEN God. 🤔 I’m confused
In the KJV, the word “even” is italicized, which was purposefully meant to indicate words which are not found in the original Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek but implied by it. God promised Abraham that from his offspring will come a great nation, and God is the one who calls things that are not into existence. What Abraham could never do, God can most certainly do. Warren Nozaki Research
Bible Answer Man thank you for explaining it to me. I just find it confusing that they added an implied word that wasn’t even in the original text. If they had omitted the word “even” I wouldn’t be perplexed. 😁 thank you!
so, she is a liar. say it plain. if she says she is not sayiing something but she is, then she is simply a liar. call it like it is. these people do damage to the innocent ignorant
That is just one message, just one!! Just because she teaches one message on finances doesn't mean that all her teachings are on finance. You cannot pick out one single message and turn it into something it's not. How about listening to all her other messages? How about listening to all her practical biblical teachings? Joyce is talking about following the teachings in the Bible vs. the new age The Secret Law Of Attraction which is to wish for something and it will happen. She is saying that The Secret is goofy! Do you not get that? She is attacking the New Age movement, and Oprah Winfrey and all those that follow the new age movement and the name it and claim it gospel. She is saying, follow the living Word of God and be blessed, following the teachings of men and the doctrines of demons and not be blessed. Her teachings aren't merely about money and worldly possessions but spiritual blessings too. You have to listen to the entire message and not single out parts to suit your own agenda.
+Adam Goodword thank you brother the same way they are analysing they bibles i guest .They think they have monopole of the truth . my question is this: you call yourself a man of God why don t you do an evangelism post of video either to lost time studying some other preacher , let the Spirit of God work in his people he is the one who convinced of sin , justice and judgement .
No, it is not just one...a litany of them has Joyce Meyer. She teaches that what transpired at the cross did not save us. Jesus has to go to hell and be tortured for 3 days, take upon himself the nature of Satan, die a spiritual death, be born again at the resurrection. She teaches that believers are "little gods." She teaches the doctrine called "law of attraction" which is not a Christian doctrine and a host of them.
Danielle, the Bible urges us to have discernment about whomever teaches God's Word. We are not criticizing her personal lifestyle nor her flaws as a preacher. Peter and Paul would've done the same to any false teachers. In Acts 17:22-31, Paul rebuked the unknown god in Athens. You should read your Bible carefully and discern what's being taught instead of accepting anyone's false teachings.
This is so sad to hear his words. What Joyce said is completely being taken out of context! She has had tragedy, cancer, a brother who committed suicide, being molested and on and on. Any one could take a snippet of your sermon and twist it. Very sad!!!!!
She is a master mind that's why many are deceived but she is teaching prosperity using faith, twisting the word, and telling people to call things that are not as though they were, only God can do that. I agree new era disguised with laughter and manipulated bible verses
Actually, not. Hank is very fair handed. Most preachers ARE false teachers today. So it would be hard to find one that taught truly according to the Scriptures without introducing some destructive heresy. Truth is not measured by numbers of men, but by the actual words of the Scriptures.
@@TheRootedWord You should check out Pastor Charles Lawson on UA-cam. He tells it like it is. He calls a spade a spade, and he doesn't add or subtract from the Bible. He's a straight shooter who preaches the TRUTH!! You might like him!! 😇🙏
@@kathierouse5306 Thank you Kathie. I will check him out. So far I have not yet found a pastor who is not polluted with the Great Rebellion, called Protestantism. I was too and came out of it and returned to the Bible, throwing out all of the twisted doctrines from Luther and Calvin and other philosophies of men. I sat at the feet of Christ anew and listened with fresh ears. I am calling all who consider themselves Christians to do the same.
Paul wrote about being wise in living in abundance as well as in necessity of all, also he taught about knowing that none of those really matters, as we are just on a pilgrimage and none the food, clothes or material possessions are either good or bad, "but all that you do, do it for the Lord" , to all please use your time, energy and wealth wisely, sure there are "wolfs among us, since they came out from us, but they were not with us", just be clearly aware of the Antichrist which denies that the Lord came in the flesh and blaspheme the blood of the new covenant, just want to end with (and for me included) Hebrews 5:11 We have much to say about this, but it is hard to make it clear to you because you no longer try to understand. 12 In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13 Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. 14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.
She stole the thing about talking to your wallet from Marilyn Hickey who said this years ago, being a blab-it-grab-it name-it claim-it. no original thought here! It's like putting your wallet under your pillow and during your sleep unconsciously drawing it to yourself. wish boards on the refrigerator, etc..
As much as I agree with Him on the misuse of scripture, I have to add that he misquoted 1 Thessalonians 5:21 NKJV - Test all things; hold fast what is good. He added "in the light of scripture" after "test all things." If you're gonna correct someone else you better keep your stuff straight as well.
Joyce Meyer should even be at the head of the sermon. Her job is at Sunday Schools. Any man going to her sermons need to check if you have a pair of balls.
I think you need to study your English Language more. Joyce does use the word, “are” (present tense-now, today), and the bible uses in some versions is “were,” (past tense). Why? Because the Bible was written over 2000 years ago (in the Past). So, are you telling the Bible is no long real today? I hope not! Joyce is using her Grammar correctly, because she is speaking about a written word from 2000 years AND still alive today. You are not! My Bible indicates what was true yesterday, is real and true Today. Apparently, your Bible does NOT! What is REAL; is the Bible. God has made us promises over 2000 years ago that are true today. But, we need to have Faith! Joyce’s goal is to help “US,” to have more faith (Hebrews 11:1). Without Love and faith, we are crushed and destroyed (Proverbs). Joyce is only attempting to impress upon us that If look toward God, and worry not, that He (God the Father, (Genesis 17:5 Abraham probably means father of many, the exalted father), wants us to have success. But we have a part to do (Fath). So, God does allow trials, to help us. Remember, we “are” nothing without God’s help! If we were “Perfect,” we would not need God! No one is Perfect, only God! You cannot just take one word out the Bible and say someone else is wrong. Especially, someone that God places there to help in God’s work. I am sure you know that is Basting God, who is Above all of us! Check your Grammar because my Bible is NOT just one word, nor just for yesterday, but for yesterday, today and tomorrow.
I have a serious question. I had a Glorious but strange thing happen when praying last year. I had a operation,and the Dr butchered me severely. I was crying out to God about pain and what Happened. Tears in eyes praying. When I notice I hear a very strange language praying along with my words,in my head,, but in a jiberish sounding language. I swear to my Father in Heaven it really happened. Did I somehow pick up on my spirit praying for me or with me. I need to understand this. I'm not a charasmatic. I'm somewhere in the middle between Baptist and penticostle. I believe what the Bible called tongues was men from other languages all understanding whatever language is being preached in. So I don't understand what happened. Please can you help me understand?
Dear Lord, Do not make me rich, do not make me poor, just give me my daily bread. Thank you. I rest in your peace Father God.
Amen!
That is “Beautiful” and “Perfect” . Amen !
Eileen In Jesus holy name amen God bless you well said and me too.
Watch out what you say to God, just saying cause he listens. Once I asked God why are we so poor. I guess it was God who said your not poor. Everything on Earth was created for my children. But, man has put a price on everything that's why your poor. I also asked why can't I be like the wicked who obtain so much wealth. Guess it was God who said you have the the mark of God within you. I tried to be prefect in the eyes of God and guess it was God who said you will never be prefect.
It is ironic, the guy who wrote that, Solomon, ended up chasing after foreign women and their foreign gods, enslaving his people in His building programs (just as the pharaohs did). His heart was right in the beginning, he got His eyes off of God's provision and forgot the Lord his God. It is written, remember the Lord your God for it is He who you the ability/power to get wealth that He may establish His covenant in the Earth.
"Seek ye first the Kingdom..." has worked consistently for me for 50 years.
You are so right. Do not make me rich do not make me poor and remove every deceitful thing from my tongue. I have been praying this prayer for a while and some doors have been open as of late.
That is what she teaches along with the importance of our words lining up with God's Word. What we were hearing there was an illustration. She also teaches we are to prosper in every area of our life, not only finances but spiritually and socially. God's prosperity is a theme from Genesis to Revelation where it talks about the dangers of relying on and misusing money as well. God does not want anything taking the place of Him. He is to be our source. The rich and the poor alike both can be covetous.
@@hahaha3251 God's word tells us His will and purpose. That is why God gave us His word
That is precisely what she does and preaches.
@@nigeltremain6594 Very simply Joyce is a false teacher
From Jesus in the sermon on the mount
Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Matthew 6:19-21......
Also recorded in Luke 12:32-34
“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
LuvBorderCollies She is indeed preaching the name it and claim it, word of faith prosperity gospel...
Which is absolutely NOT the True Biblical Gospel that Jesus taught.
What's her education in Biblical Theology?
She is in the same boat as Kenneth (Cult) Copeland, Benny (D'jinn) Hinn, Creflo (spiritually broke) Dollar, and Joel (prosperity pope) Osteen.
Do they deny themselves, pickup their cross an die to self as they follow Jesus?
Is Jesus really their LORD, the Master over them as slave?
How can a servant use words of faith to control their Owner?
They were bought for a price. They should not be focusing on the prices of things they should buy.
Jealousy over Gods blessings...she has helped millions of people with her words of encouragement for those who were abused. I am one of those millions of people whom she helped. She is of Pentecostal origin. You can do amazing things when you do the Lords bidding.
Amen .i rather read the KJV Bible then to listen to her teaching
@@Matt-zp1jn What a distorted view. None of them are trying to control their master Jesus. They teach to take God at His word, which is exactly what Abraham did. Abraham even bargained with God for the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Jesus said if you abide in me and my words abide in you you will ask what you will and it shall be done for you. He makes our desires come in line with His will as we abide in Him.
@@wisdommorepreciousthanrubi8321 It records that he trusted in His uncertain riches.
I've been saying this for years! Some of the people in my church love her. Until or unless we read & study the Bible for ourselves, we will be prone to listen to whatever 'sounds Christian'".
The Devil can use the words of the Son of Man.
You're right on.
There were false teachers in the 1st century and will continue until Jesus sets up His 1000 years on earth, if I understand what the Bible says.
Also we were never promised we would be wealthy, but to have our daily bread.
Most will not even read the words so long as they have someone else telling them what they want to hear. Truth is, they're afraid to read it for they might find out differently which will ruin their sense of false security. It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.
I have spent my adult life suffering horribly but I suffer with a smile and thank God every day for the suffering because at least I am still alive.
I watched her for a couple of years. Then I ran across a clip of a video where she was being interviewed. She was ask if she felt guilty that some of the money that she received might be from the elderly who really couldn't afford to give. Without any hesitation she replied why should I feel guilty? If they wanted to send it to me, why should I refuse?
That struck me as cold and heartless.
Just listening to the clip you played made me nauseated.
If she chooses to live the good life on this Earth, that's on her. But to think she would knowingly take from the poor, that's rather low.
Joyce meyer creeps me out. She is too popular. She doesn't truly edify the Bible and Jesus
I've listened to many of her messages and she is a one trick pony. Always the same scriptures and how she was sexually abused by her father. I don't like the constant reference to money; buying shoes and teaching someone a life lesson, how Starbucks doesn't get her order correct so she had to learn patience, how she has to shop for many outfits because of all the tv episodes (can't wear the same item 2x), how the hotel spa lost her pants while she was getting a treatment done, the personal trainer she's had for 13 years and geting her nails done and going out for dinner. I hear subtle "in your face, look at me now" comments that are meant for past friends or family members that thought of her negatively at one time. She grew up in the charismatic age and knows the demographic that is the most vulnerable to her teachings and targets them with her messages and books (which she profits from). I find her videos too predictable, are often off point (she gets side tracked too easily) and I've even heard variations of the same story (pastor came to the house vs a dream she had that the pastor came to the house).
@@whitney1966 Absolutely right - nailed it
Paul knowing took from the Macedonians and used them as example when He said my God shall supply all your needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus. The Macedonians were in famine.
Beverly Cramp I completely agree her stories are getting old and I used to listen to her a lot when she was a nobody , something is off here🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I remember Joyce being a guest in my parents’ home several times when I was a kid. I remember hearing her voice from the basement, where all us kids were playing; it was so shrill and bombastic, talking over everyone else. She was a stuck up, rude lady. My family knew her when she was just starting in ministry at Life Christian Center in St. Louis, Missouri. I’ll not forget those days. She, Rick Shelton and many others, were living really well, all the while telling struggling folks to give more so they, too, can live abundant lives.
Wow
I have listened to her for years. And my Church just brought out a series on False Faith Teachers. I was shocked to see Joyce Meyer. I went home and threw out everything. O am ashamed that I listened to her for so long and believed her. I am thankful I never let go of Jesus of went off the wall. I teach my children to read to Word every day and hear Jesus. Thank you for telling the truth
You are not the only one who got manipulated. I was brought into a satanic born again devil outfit and their brainwashing almost destroyed me.
Azureblu 50: That is a fantastic statement. I would have never thought of that. I constantly go around commenting on things I have no idea what I am saying. Your keen sense of the obvious is outstanding. What elementary school do you go to.
Sue Kennedy exactly!
Maybe kindergarten would be more their speed!
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is biblical and speaking in tongues, but there are many False Teachers who hijack the authentic in order to turn you into merchandise 2 Peter 2:1-3 (see the older translations like the KJV or RSV to find the word NOT translated "exploit you", but "turn you into merchandise". So don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Just throw out the false teacher from your life.
There is nothing more dangerous than somebody who mixes his false Doctrine with the word of God. This is exactly what the big Cults like the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons do
I was in the health wealth Prosperity cult for a couple of years with my brother. Hank Hanegraaff and John MacArthur Junior helped us tremendously, but the biggest thing was actually reading our Bibles and realizing that what we were being taught did not line up with the scriptures. The breaking point was when someone tried to push me over who claimed to be a prophet and when I didn't fall over like I was dead they said I resisted the Holy Spirit LOL. I left all of my friends popularity and pretty girls behind while they all stayed in that cult. The truth will set you free
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Could not have said it better myself, amen.
I don’t know about John MacArthur’s son but John MacArthur the Big guy is SUPER DUPER WEALTHY.
And he who gives to the rich, will surely come to poverty. - Proverbs 22:16b (She'll never tell you about that verse.)
Thank you sir this is just the scripture I was looking for
I read this verse in several translations thinking it sounded a little off as you presented it and found that this verse is almost a repudiation of those who give their money to wealthy pastors.
However, it truly applies to those giving to the rich to gain influence or favor.
Many of the prosperity preachers are simply conning the overall masses of their flocks, so I’m not in agreement about this 1/2 verse unless it is backed up with more scripture, even though I know prosperity preaching is not pleasing in The Lords sight.
My $.02
Message version Micha 3:5-7
Here is God’s Message to the prophets,
the preachers who lie to my people:
“For as long as they’re well paid and well fed,
the prophets preach, ‘Isn’t life wonderful! Peace to all!’
But if you don’t pay up and jump on their bandwagon,
their ‘God bless you’ turns into ‘God damn you.’
Therefore, you’re going blind. You’ll see nothing.
You’ll live in deep shadows and know nothing.
The sun has set on the prophets.
They’ve had their day; from now on it’s night.
Visionaries will be confused,
experts will be all mixed up.
They’ll hide behind their reputations and make lame excuses
to cover up their God-ignorance.”
Wow so agree! I have been born again for 26 yrs. To think when I was first saved I listened to them all!!!??? God removed me and my family from a church we had been in for years. I had put a certain woman Pastor on a pedestal. Then one morning in church she emotionally and spiritually abused me. I have chosen to forgive but...it was never the same again. The hard thing is...my Sister and Mum still go and everything has changed with us.
Walking with Jesus abiding in the truth isn't easy. We are hated. Be bold sister, but more than that be lovingly bold. Truth hurts, spankings hurt but it is for understanding. We are all called to test everything with scripture. Prayers on you and your family.
THANKYOU HANK...WE ARE BLESSED YOU ARE STILL AT IT..
I was hoping this was the perspective you would take and I am grateful for you telling the truth in a soothing way. I listened to liars for years, filtering out what I knew was and wasn't right, but never had the courage to address the red flags until recently. Now I am addressing lies and liars. Thank you.
The power of life and death is in your tongue Proverbs 18
Death and life are in the power of the tongue; and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof. It means if you are using your tongue in a negative way, then that will bring negative ( death) fruit to you. If your using your tongue in a righteous positive way that will bring (Life) good fruit to you.
Jesus is the way the truth and the life. The life we speak is NOT material things it is Jesus . We can speak Jesus , the gospel which is life. God is not an ATM machine.
@@nowjess78 No he is not ATM machine, but he is a covenant keeper. We have a covenant of redemption, protection, provision and healing.
Haters!!!!
Listening to Joyce has brought me closer to God. She still teaches people to put God first in your life and have faith and be thankful.
Susan S. I here so many preachers teaching us too invite JESUS CHRIST INTO OUR hearts. when I read the scriptures,it seems JESUS IS calling us too loose everything and anything that would prevent us from following HIM. AN this has too happen,if not we loose the life JESUS has planned out for us. What do u think?
Yes, Joyce Meyer speaks the truth, and the truth May hurt sometimes
@@jeffcarothers3048 No one who has left everything in this life shall not receive a hundred fold in this life, and in the age to come eternal life (my paraphrase). That was Jesus talking.
@@nigeltremain6594 ,I'm not sure wat YOUR response was about. R u responding to something I posted? GOD BLESS U.
@@jeffcarothers3048 You posted... "JESUS IS calling us too loose everything and anything that would prevent us from following HIM. AND this has too happen, if not we loose the life JESUS has planned out for us. What do u think?" Mark 10:28 Peter began to say to Him, “Look, we have left everything and followed You.” 29“Truly I tell you,” said Jesus, “no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for My sake and for the gospel 30 will fail to receive a hundredfold in the present age-houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and fields, along with persecutions-and in the age to come, eternal life.… As you can see if we are willing to give up everything for God and the Gospel, God will restore. God wants us to keep our focus on Him, not the things He supplies. It will not however be without opposition.
Try preaching Joyce Mayers message on the “wallet” to the starving (literally), and persecuted Church. It wouldn’t encourage anyone there to carry on and endure.
Thank you for making the twisting of Gods word so clear
I remind you of the starving widow who was told to make Elisha's cake first. She did and her pot of oil and flour did not run out for the rest of the remainder of the famine. God's principle for increasing in life has always been sowing and reaping. I is a theme through the entirety of the word of God in fact.
You are treading on dangerous ground murmuring. God's word says, "touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm."
@K Gian How come, in applying giving in their the lives, the poor have been lifted out of their poverty? An example is the Macedonians who were starving (famine) who gave to Paul beyond their ability. Paul was using the Macedonians as an example when he said "for God loves a cheerful giver". If I follow your and Kathleen's reasoning Paul is made a liar. God's word will always be true as we apply it in our lives. It will always be dangerous to speak out against people who serve God. Look at Miriam when she spoke against Moses's for an example.
How come, in applying giving in their the lives, the poor have been lifted out of their poverty? An example is the Macedonians who were starving (famine) who gave to Paul beyond their ability. Paul was using the Macedonians as an example when he said "for God loves a cheerful giver". If I follow your and Kathleen's reasoning Paul is made a liar. God's word will always be true as we apply it in our lives. It will always be dangerous to speak out against people who serve God. Look at Miriam when she spoke against Moses's for an example.
@K Gian Great who were you talking to?
Joyce Meyer does way more for others by her preaching, then you. Hearing her preach for the first Time, brought me Closer to God. Soo what! What everyone says, that woman saved what i was ready to throw away. God bless. I am happy today, thank you God for putting Joyce Meyer on my path Amen
Did you get saved by Joyce Myers? Or by the hearing of God's word?
Now, use discernment and weigh what you hear by the reading of God's word. Be like a Berean!
@@jeffbisher8298 witch ever...isn't God's will to put on my path her preaching?
Sometimes we just need to hear a preaching or a nice Word from someone...4 a little motivation in able to get back to bible studing🙏
Anyways, this is what i went threw and still going thru.
Keep up the courageous defense of the gospel, Hank. Americans are so gullible. "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
I have to tell the world that after l made that last comment, I just uncontrollably started crying like a baby! It was like resergance of the holy spirit. I think something wonderful just happened! Hallelujah! Amen!
Oh Hank, been listening to you for decades. My grandmother listened to The Bible Answer Man on the radio and also J Vernon McGee. HAHAHA. What a voice he had. THANK YOU for the wealth of education over the years that kept me grounded.
I find it impossible to believe any biblical teacher who states that she herself is NOT a sinner. That is heresy, utterly opposed to the scriptures. On her audio tape "From the Cross to the Throne", Joyce Meyer states adamantly that she is NOT a sinner:
"All I was ever taught to say was I a poor miserable sinner. I am NOT poor, I am NOT miserable, and I am NOT a sinner -- that is a lie from the pit of hell, that is what I were and if I still was, then Jesus died in vain. I'm gonna tell you something, folks: I didn't stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn't a sinner anymore.".
Compare that with the bible:
1 John 1:8 says "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.".
Romans 3:23 says "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.".
actually, Kitty Kitty, what she is saying is that Christ went to the cross once and that was all that was needed. She is saying that she doesn't view her Savior as someone who needs to keep going back to the cross every time she makes a mistake. She is 100% correct is this. Before I was saved, I was poor, wretched sinner. I am redeemed by my savior's blood and resurrection. I am no longer that poor wretched sinner. I am a new creation in Christ. Do I still sin? of course I do, but the price has been paid and once was all that was needed. Colossians 3:12-17, 1 Peter 2:9
2 Corinthians 5:21
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I just have a couple of questions for you. Do you still sin? Do you not still have the sin nature within you? Are you not still going through the sanctification process? When does the sanctification process end? Finally, what do you call a person who sins? You call them a sinner. When God looks at a Christian, He sees the blood of Jesus covering the person. He or she is justified by the blood. He or she will still sin. The biggest concern is, do they still have a conscience? If they do, they will learn to hate that sin and continue to struggle until they overcome. This is what makes the Christian life so hard. Remember what the apostle Paul said? He said, "Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin." Romans 7:20-25
I hope this encourages you! 😇🙏
And she probably cries out with the city of her origin that she is not a widow and will never weep: Babylon in Revelation.
Kitty Kitty The Bible teaches that we are all sinners in Adam but in Christ sin no longer has dominion over us. We aren’t sinners when he have crossed over from the power of darkness into His marvelous light. We are free, children of the most high. We must develop a walk in the Spirit in order to experience the freedom that He has provided us through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ
I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. - 1st Timothy 2:12 It doesn't get any clearer than that.
I love that phrase - "The Osteenification..." How true!
Yeah he should be Joel Osteentatious
God bless you for exposing people like Joyce Meyer.
that's just magical hooy. I have a whole slew of genetic disorders and more going on in my life. But I am rich in spirit and live an abundant life. Praise God.
Joyce never says everything can be overcome by speaking it.
I am going to be..... what ever The Lord Almighty has in His will for me. NOT what Joyce Meyer tells me to talk to! My wallet will stay empty if that is Gods will and I am happy with that because All I and everyone else needs is Him. 😊🙌
Victoria Charlesworth Tell that to the power company when they turn off your electricity.
If your wallet is empty than how ARE you going to BLESSothers the poor or give TITHE AND OFFERINGS TO GOD READ MALACHI WHOLE BOOK . GOD BLESSED ABRAHAM HE IS NO RESPECTOR OF PERSONS
@@joeriley8667 good point
Victoria Charlesworth Yep! If we are sharing the infinite wealth of the Gospel and leading others to the cross, discipling and following Jesus, instead of Joyce, we will be spiritually rich! If our
wallet is empty of physical wealth but have Jesus, we are rich indeed! :)
Joe Riley Talking to your "wallet" to increase your physical wealth is wrong, over the calling of spiritual wealth/relationship with Jesus and spreading the Gospel. Not chasing after physical prosperity and the things of this world. Deny yourself daily and follow Him. Those that die to self and the things of this world, will have life in heaven with Christ.
I love u man God's word it's the only truth, nothing else,God bless you
Spurgeon said Discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong, it's knowing the difference between right and "almost" right
Mark Revelle no discernment is know the difference between right and wrong dude.
I see in some versions of this quote the word “simply,” and I believe it clarifies both of your positions: we can’t look only for the black and white difference between clear right and clear wrong, because the Deceiver uses “almost” to instill doubt about what God says and what our appropriate response should be. “Almost” right is still wrong. An “almost” truth has the power to destroy.
One constant in all these preachers. They all live lavish lifestyles while hitting up people who are just getting by up for more money. That should tell you all you need to know. If you spend the time to know the word yourself then getting caught in false teachings isn't as easy. We'll all give an account one day.
The holy Spirit came to me in my darkest hour and showed me the truth. I'm am so thankful.And now I hunger for it! Amen!
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My mother gave her heart to the Lord a few years ago because of Joyce Meyers bible teaching. My mother was a hard core bitter liberal old woman...then while we were taking care of her as her hospice care...she asked me to come into her room and shared with me that she believed in Jesus Christ as her Savior and she prayed the sinners prayer to be named one of Gods children because of the Word being shared by Joyce Meyer. John McCarther admitted years ago...we all are going to be surprise how wrong a lot of us were in our doctrine. To me...Joyce Meyer is teaching Malachi 3...on general tithing or giving.
McArthur has committed the unpardonable sin over and over. Whatever he says, must be discounted. Definitely! People come to the LORD through non-Christian words and events that have nothing to do with preaching or church. That does not justify those things as being from God. God even used Pharoh for His glory, but that did not justify Pharoh in God's eyes. Pharoh was NOT cooperating with the true and Living God and neither is Meyers or she would obey God's own testimony that says SHE MUST NOT TEACH MEN!
Hahaha. Your mom then went on to give all of your inheritance to Joyce Meyer so Joyce Meyer could build another heated swimming pool for her and her children who don't work as hard as you do. It's her money though. Personally, when I give money to charity, I check to see where that charity spends its money. If less than 80% of the donations go to help the poor, I don't give to the charity. In Joyce Meyer ministries, she takes most of the money. Why would God want you to give money to a church that primarily only helps one person who's already rich? That's being a poor steward of your money, isn't it?
Shane ...thank you for sharing your story. So glad, happy your mom will be SPENDING ETERNITY with you ! ❤ God bless you dear.
@@TheRootedWord Wow! You think that women are to shut up ...to keep their mouths shut ! I ! Such a shallow "religious" mind ! We are ALL equal in God's eyes! ! Get the Bible out and start reading the New Testament ...NOT just Marthew, Mark, Luke and John ... You will definitely be surprised. Ask the Holy Spirit to help you when you do read God's Word ! And you say Joyce Meyer is a false teacher! ! ! ? ? Check yourself ! ! God bless you ❤ Shalom
The glory does not belong to Joyce Meyer that God used her words to move your mother's heart to accept Jesus Christ. God used the unnatural speech of a donkey to stave off the prophet's madness. That did not make the donkey either a teacher or any kind of position of office in the Kingdom of God. It made ONLY those few words at that instant that God put into his mouth a temporary and direct instrument. Everything else from that donkey was foolish hee-hawing and meaningless - like Joyce Meyers.
The glory is the Holy Spirit's. In this case, Joyce Meyer was teaching to a woman and that was appropriate. However, it is not just saying the sinner's prayer that saves us. John MacArthur, that snake, may have said something witty and diplomatically agreeable by all, but he is way off base in his teachings about salvation and the Holy Spirit. Your best chance at actually receiving salvation when you pass from this corruptible body is to read the Scriptures, ignore the American teachers calling themselves "Christian", and do what Jesus our Lord and the Apostles said to do.
Matthew 21:
21 So Jesus answered and said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, 'Be removed and be cast into the sea,' it will be done.
22 "And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."
Mark 10:29 So Jesus answered and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's,
Who was He talking to? The disciples. They were about the establish the church in the earth. Great things needed to be done. They had a special anointing on their lives. Most of them died because of their faith. Are you telling everyone that you have that call on your life? Please rethink and pray about your position.
Think of all the apostles. They all suffered. God doesn't care about your check book.
I think the Bible already explains this ,people who are not born of the spirit ( born again) have only the power of the flesh working in them, those who are born of the spirit have the power of God which is the Holy Spirit and a New man or inner man which is a new being created in us when we are born again. As we have also inherited original sin from, Adam, we also inherited our flesh or carnal nature which is the fifth column in very Christian (an enemy within )
This is why Paul warned the Galatians about " beginning in spirit ending in the flesh "
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Galatians 3:3
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
If you end in the flesh you are not abiding in the true wine which is Christ and in day of judgement he will separate those who abide in the true wine and bore fruits from those who did not bear fruits once saved all aways saved is myth if we end in the flesh we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven
John 15 1-4
“I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me."
For we are warned that in the last days there will be many who will fall from the true faith by seduced by deceiving spirits. The where seduced by deceiving spirits because they never chastised their flesh which will always be the fifth column till the day our Lord returns. If we do not follow the guidance of the holy spirit in every aspect of our life, then we will end in flesh holy spirit was given to us not Only to lead us in prayer or to speak in tongues but also to guide us in every aspect of life and we need the power of God to overcome the flesh, the world and Satan . If we are not lead by the spirit then our flesh will take over. For Jesus spoke of people are neither warm or cold this refers to Christians who have the power of flesh working in them and never allowed the spirit to chastise their flesh
Yeah it's funny how they never mention that Jesus didn't even have a place to lay his head, when you read the Gospels it records Jesus sleeping outside overnight and he didn't even have a penny, remember when he asked whose image it was on a penny and then he told the disciples to render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's? Hoses 4:6, my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge. 1Tim 6:6-10 is very clear about being content with what you have and desiring to be rich.
@@jesuslovesmegalatians2205 Hank Hanegraaff is mean I don't think she's born again all he wants to do is point his finger at Spirit-filled Christians Joyce is a beautiful person
@@petrtsioma9828 if I wasn't a Christian I'd say shut up Hank Hanegraaff you're always trying to put down Spirit-filled Christians let's examine your life! You're about as religious as they come and religious people nailed Jesus on Cross how do you feel about the baptism in the Holy Ghost people speaking in tongues people getting healed oh you've got something bad to say about everybody doesn't match up with your religious straight jacket you are the accuser and that persons name is Satan
@@peggymcpherson5112dear friend pls hear me out without prejudice , I too believe she is born again, but the But we are warned born again Christians may also end in the flesh, the lukewarm Christians in rev are also examples of those who are born again and those who are still controlled by the flesh, pls read John chapter 15, we must abide in christ to produce good fuirts, to abide in christ imply to live like him . its very imp to note prosperity gospel is a heresy which satisfies the lust of the flesh and in way nourishes our inner man(new being in christ when we are born again ) and is miles away from the narrow path that leads to life, pls note we already been warned of another Jesus and another gospel and another spirit .christ died for sins and became a curse for us on the cross so that we may escape the corruption and bondage of sin in order to be lead by the holy spirit not compromise with the world. Christ commanded us to be disciples, not those who go to church on Sundays, but Christ himself said those who want to be my disciples must first count the cost. For Jesus himself said those who love him will obey him, those who do not love him will not obey him. Dear friend does the prosperity gospel line up with the gospel which Jesus preached to the contrary this what our flesh lust after. If we are to be his disciples our love for him must be greater than the love we have for our own life, our own spouse, children and parents. We must deny our self ie subdue ( carnal nature ) and carry our cross (to do Gods will ) daily. Jesus meant when he said whoever drinks the water I give will never thirst (pls read
John 4:4-26 and John 7:37-39). if you filled with holy spirit no adversities, trial and tribulation will quench the joy of the holy spirit. Just like how a river overflows, other believers can also feel the joy presence of the holy ghost. we are not saved by our good works unlike other religions but saved for good works i.e. to Gods will or producing good fruits that can only be possible if we abide in Christ. This what Paul when he that our outer man/carnality perishes and our inner man i.e. new being in Christ grows daily.2 Corinthians 4: 16 pls see
Is christ teaching a yoke? For christ himself said my yoke is easy and my burden is light, for christ promised the other helper the holy spirit to those who love him and obey him, he will be the supernatural helper who God will send to help us overcome the flesh and the world. If we are lead by the spirit we will walk in the narrow path, that christ himself said very few will find, our inner man will grow daily and we will be doing Gods will, and this is what Jesus meant , that th9se who drink the water I give will never this again (may never desire anything else )as the holy spirit fills them and they will overflow with joy and peace christ is gift from God to those who do his will. Pls not one cannot abide in christ and the property gospel at the same time
My discernment agrees with your opinion on this subject. Thank you for this topic & no one is above God's mercy.
very well discerned Hank.We need to help vulnerable listeners thanks
I hope The Lord our Savior Jesus Christ continues to hold you up brother Hannegraff. I want you to know how much your right dividing The Word of truth has helped me run this race and stay the course. I wish I had the space in this post to tell you how much the WOF teaching has negatively effected my life. Praise be to God for your ministry.
The WOF, generally speaking, challenges us to consider scriptures that others have swept under the carpet( without explanation). They are admittedly hard topics, but well worthwhile studying. You have found a fellowship that says it is OK to ignore things in the Bible instead of explaining them: they ought not to be thanked for this; you will need these "WOF" passages to fight future battles as you grow older, and you will not be prepared.
The WOF, generally speaking, challenges us to consider scriptures that others have swept under the carpet( without explanation). They are admittedly hard topics, but well worthwhile studying. You have found a fellowship that says it is OK to ignore things in the Bible instead of explaining them: they ought not to be thanked for this; you will need these "WOF" passages to fight future battles as you grow older, and you will not be prepared.
The WOF, generally speaking, challenges us to consider scriptures that others have swept under the carpet( without explanation). They are admittedly hard topics, but well worthwhile studying. You have found a fellowship that says it is OK to ignore things in the Bible instead of explaining them: they ought not to be thanked for this; you will need these "WOF" passages to fight future battles as you grow older, and you will not be prepared.
Most of the time she sounds like a classic motivational speaker that you would hear at a Dale Carnegie class or one of those classes like you have infinite power or something like that. She uses typical motivational power language.
Joyce Meyer agrees with the worst heretical teaching in 'Word of Faith': She says “You know, I was listening to a set of tapes by one man and he explained it like this, and I think this kind of gets the point across, he said, ‘Why do people have such a fit about God calling His creation, His man-not His whole creation, but His man-little gods? If He’s God, what’s He going to call them but the god-kind?’ I mean, if you as a human being have a baby, you call it a human kind. If cattle has another cattle, they call it cattle-kind. So, I mean, what’s God supposed to call us? Doesn’t the Bible say we’re created in his image? Now, you understand I am not saying you are God with a capital G.” (Joyce Meyer, Authority and Opposition, audio tape number 1236.)
The God of the Bible teaches that ALL other gods are false gods. One can only guess which Word of Faith (Prosperity Gospel) teacher Meyer was listening to! Was it Copeland, Hagin, Dollar, Duplantis etc etc? They all teach this HERESY.
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We have been made in the image and likeness of God. In the Psalms it says we are gods, small g. We are gods in the sense that we decree things and they are established.
Here's another one who has mastered the art of convincing and convicting the gullible that they applaud so much.
You know what makes them gullible...they don't study their Bible for themselves.
yupia yupia exactly! 😊
Go to any Baptist church and they all do that, so do a lot of other Evangelical churches.
@Craig Laycox I was referring to asking for affirmation of the crowd, as the author of the tread was, not her doctrines. Craig you like to argue for argument's sake.
@@girlbornagain9587 I would place you in that category. The Bible is very balanced in the area of prosperity and not coveting. God definitely does want to bless and prosper His people, but He does not want us to get our eyes off of Him as our source of supply.
When sound doctrine is being taught by the power of the spirit is has the most humbling effect on the hearers .
It exhalts God the father and the Lord Jesus and should bring man low by the illumination of there increased understanding of God being revealed by a Holy spirit led Teacher.
Many preachers today esp on TV who are preaching messages which apeal to the fleshly mind and its desires .
If you want to pack a church today it seems you just have to preach health wealth and prosperity .
Things that people who have no profession desire .
Test all things by the written word and prayer as we have the biblical characters and apostles lives as examples .
Yes, a bunch of “soul-ish”teaching...things that appeal to the flesh & not the spirit
She preaches way more things than that, she humbles herself on stage and encourages others to humble themselves. She is constantly using humour and her negative traits as examples to get people to look inward and see their faults and look to God for correction. She also uses apostles and Jesus as examples in every sermon.
Spiritual ritchness through Christ Jesus... ❤❤
Excellent commentary from Hank.. Excellent ! Thank you.
I realized years ago Joyce Meyer is a false teacher.
2nd Peter 2 warns us of those who would make merchandise of you.
Hard to see where Paul takes collections for other churches because of their extreme poverty but these people act like we're guaranteed to be wealthy.
She doesn't say that, she preaches about getting out of poverty and receiving from God.
amen, I was listening to a preacher creflo dollar, his words sounded very advertising, my mind was like woop woop amen, yes I don't got to be sick, I don't got to be poor... lol but as ausome as it sounded my spirit was tugging me telling me to get out of my mind and feelings , it was my flesh that was amening his words because they were lovley words I mean who wouldn't want to be rich and healthy and heal people.... but blessed am I for the lords spirit that pulls me back into the reality of his spirit, and gives me the strength to not pray to remove all my problems but pray too help me rise above them by enjoying his life in me... it was through my "problems" that I was drawn closer to the lord :) how amazing and mysterious he is that somehow in the midst of what seems like hell he stirs up my spirit and instead of wollowing in self pitty I praise him! :) oh lord Jesus thank you
I'm sorry, Wendy, but your comment is not focused. You are trying to tell us numerous scenarios and wandering. As a reader I would like to suggest that your writing have one major point and that you expand slightly on it. Then conclude with an appropriate ending. You do sound like a nice person that is very dedicated to the Lord, and this method would help folks get your viewpoint a little better.
Sorry I don't really understand what you mean? I was just commenting on the video? Did you find that it didn't make sense?
+Wendy Willis Yup. But it is fine. Overall you sound like a great girl and that is a great message to give us. God bless you in everything!
@@wendywillis3076 ...U made perfect sense to me. PTL
Creflo starts every message with the intent to build up to the crescendo of the offering
Jesus is all I need. He takes care of me and my family He alone is Enough!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️
I've never understood why people equate being rich/or wealthy with happiness? We live in a material culture that tells us we have to have material wealth to be happy. I'm not saying that it's wrong to have nice things, or to be blessed with an abundance, but happiness does not come from wealth or prosperity. Nor should we feel like we're unblessed if God only supplies us with our basic needs. If we have a roof over our heads, food in our stomach, and clothes on our back, we should be thankful and content with our blessings. Many people in the world lack even the basic necessities for survival. I've never been someone who feels like I need the fanciest house, or the fanciest car to be happy in life. Many people go into the military because they feel God has called them to sacrifice their lives to protect other people. These soldiers go through difficult military training, and many other discomforts and inconveniences. Some of them go through pure living hell, loose their life, or their limbs. Are they any less blessed than you and I because they sacrificed their lives, dreams, and personal ambitions, to protect other people? No I would say they are more blessed than other people. They are heroes, and Saints.
Being rich doesn't equate to increased happiness, but being over a poverty line does increase happiness, mental and physical health.
You mentioned the applauds coming from the audience, I watched several of her enjoying everyday life programs & noticed that the front row is full of her staff and some family members. I call them the cheerleaders, sitting closest to the microphones.
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I think the Bible already explains this ,people who are not born of the spirit ( born again) have only the power of the flesh working in them, those who are born of the spirit have the power of God which is the Holy Spirit and a New man or inner man which is a new being created in us when we are born again. As we have also inherited original sin from, Adam, we also inherited our flesh or carnal nature which is the fifth column in very Christian (an enemy within )
This is why Paul warned the Galatians about " beginning in spirit ending in the flesh "
.
Galatians 3:3
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
If you end in the flesh you are not abiding in the true wine which is Christ and in day of judgement he will separate those who abide in the true wine and bore fruits from those who did not bear fruits once saved all aways saved is myth if we end in the flesh we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven
John 15 1-4
“I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me."
For we are warned that in the last days there will be many who will fall from the true faith by seduced by deceiving spirits. The where seduced by deceiving spirits because they never chastised their flesh which will always be the fifth column till the day our Lord returns. If we do not follow the guidance of the holy spirit in every aspect of our life, then we will end in flesh holy spirit was given to us not Only to lead us in prayer or to speak in tongues but also to guide us in every aspect of life and we need the power of God to overcome the flesh, the world and Satan . If we are not lead by the spirit then our flesh will take over. For Jesus spoke of people are neither warm or cold this refers to Christians who have the power of flesh working in them and never allowed the spirit to chastise their flesh
Are you trying to imply most people won't relate or like her sermons and that it's a trick? Her audience is huge and people at home watch on tv and youtube.
I always knew from the first time I saw her she was evil. Something about her just screamed demonic. Now that I herd what she said, it’s no doubt in my mind that she’s teaching a wicked doctrine straight from hell.
Hank thank you for directing people to the Word to test all things. Thank you also for taking the arrows that so many people are shooting at you and your ministry.
It is sad that the "equality" and "fairness" mentality has over taken the church as well. When a Christian exposes ERROR and false doctrine, they are branded by the followers of false teachers as haters and judges. We are commanded to watch for "another gospel" and any teaching that deviates from what Jesus or the Apostles taught. Many of the WOF "prophets" can go on for hours without ever once quoting a Scripture in context. They are great story tellers and easy to listen to, but WHAT they are teaching is not sound Bible doctrine. WOF did not exist in Jesus' day, nor did the disciples teach such. And you can not find any where in the Bible showing that all believers were HEALTHY and WEALTHY! If it were meant to be for ALL believers, then Paul, writer of most of our New Testament would have had it. He, however, had an ailment or "thorn in the flesh" that he was never relieved of. Obviously, Word of Faith was not taught or believed by him!
Ronald Reagan also at joyce, whose ministry, does good works. Spreads salvation, and gives prosperity to the poor, and needy
I think the Bible already explains this people who are not born of the spirit ( born again) have only the power of the flesh working in them, those who are born of the spirit have the power of God which is the Holy Spirit and a New man or inner man which is a new being created in us when we are born again. As we have also inherited original sin from, Adam, we also inherited our flesh or carnal nature which is the fifth column in very Christian (an enemy within )
This is why Paul warned the Galatians about " beginning in spirit ending in the flesh "
.
Galatians 3:3
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
If you end in the flesh you are not abiding in the true wine which is Christ and in day of judgement he will separate those who abide in the true wine and bore fruits from those who did not bear fruits once saved all aways saved is myth if we end in the flesh we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven
John 15 1-4
“I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me."
For we are warned that in the last days there will be many who will fall from the true faith by seduced by deceiving spirits. The where seduced by deceiving spirits because they never chastised their flesh which will always be the fifth column till the day our Lord returns. If we do not follow the guidance of the holy spirit in every aspect of our life, then we will end in flesh holy spirit was given to us not Only to lead us in prayer or to speak in tongues but also to guide us in every aspect of life and we need the power of God to overcome the flesh, the world and Satan . If we are not lead by the spirit then our flesh will take over. For Jesus spoke of people are neither warm or cold this refers to Christians who have the power of flesh working in them and never allowed the spirit to chastise their flesh
Rev 13:6 KJV
"So then because of thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
Pls read Matthew 25:14-30
The Parable of the Talents
John 15 full chapter
Abiding in the Vine which is christ
we are expected to follow a narrow path and obey God's commandments ie love your lord your God with all your heart and soul and to love your neighbours including your enemies as your self it is hard to follow this as our flesh would be the greatest hindrance to this commandment as our flesh wants to be glorified itself rather than glorify God . It impossible for man to do this on his own will as by nature we are sinful and it would lead to self-righteousness and pride can only achieve this with the supernatural power of God and through power the holy spirit our guide and helper. hence we must take great care in overcoming our flesh and world for God promised the kingdom of God and eternal life for those who overcome till the very end. The proof that we are following the narrow path to life is our character we are supposed to bear good fruit ie love, patience, understanding, good judgment, wisdom , hate for sin and injustice , patiently preaching the word to those who are mislead by satan with love and concern , praying for your enemies and those who wrong you and for giving them , repenting from your sins , etc
Whatever happened to the message of Repentance and Remittance of sin?
She teaches that too, but Hank has conveniently left that out.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God. I don't want to be rich...NO! Prosperity Preaching is, well, all about money and as we all know, the love of money is the root of all evil. You can have all this world, just give me Jesus.
Joyce is just preaching about not living in poverty and strife.
We should make it abundantly clear to all children that they must follow the true teaching of Jesus. Where through him, they will pray to God (always safely and in secret) and also learn from him, the best way to live their lives. Well away from all religions, including Christianity; which are led by the many fake prophets, who only want their cash donations…
“If you have ears to hear; then hear.” - (Mark 4: 9) -
“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where it grows rusty and moth-eaten, and thieves will break in to steal it. Store up treasure in heaven, where there is no moth and no rust to spoil it, no thieves to break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.” - (Matthew 6: 19-20) -
“Beware of false prophets; men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (Matthew 7: 15-16) -
“God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (John 4: 24) -
“Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) -
“The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 10) -
“Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…”
- (Matthew 24: 4) -
“Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) -
“I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” - (John 14: 6-7) -
“When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you.
In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard.
Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him.
This is how you should pray:
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven,
Give us today our daily bread,
And forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us.
And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one.
For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (Matthew 6: 6-15) -
“Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) -
“Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) -
“Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.” - (Matthew 7: 12-14) -
“I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe.” - (John 10: 9) -
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” - (Matthew 7: 21) -
“I am the resurrection and I am life. If a man has faith in me, even though he dies, he shall come to life; and no one who is alive and has faith shall ever die.” - (John 11: 25-26) -
“I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world”
- (John 12: 47) -
“Whoever then will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) -
“Someone said, ‘your mother and brothers are here outside; they want to speak to you.’ Jesus turned to the man who brought the message, and said, ‘Who is my mother? Who are my brothers?’ and pointing to the disciples, he said, ‘Here are my mother and my brothers. Whoever does the will of my heavenly Father is my brother, my sister, my mother.’” - (Matthew 12: 47-50) -
“The disciples came and asked Jesus, ‘Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’ He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.
Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) -
“An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself. Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) -
“There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.” - (John 15: 13) -
"Stay awake, and pray that you may be spared the test: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." - (Matthew 26: 41) -
“Teach them to observe all that I have commanded you. And be assured, I am with you always, to the end of time.” - (Matthew 28: 20) -
“One of the criminals who hung there also mocked and taunted him: ‘Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself, and us!’ But the other criminal rebuked him. ‘Have you no fear of God? You are under the same sentence as he. For us it is plain justice; we are paying the price for our misdeeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.’ And he said, ‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ He answered, “I tell you this: today you shall be with me in Paradise.’” - (Luke 23: 39-43) -
“For it is my Father’s will that everyone who looks upon the Son and puts his faith in him shall possess eternal life; and I will raise him up on the last day” - (John 6: 40) -
Yours always, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, Sunday the 27th of January, 2019: - (Matthew 5:14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you…
I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with speaking positively. But I don't think your checkbook hears you when you speak to it. If you're a salesman, and you're attitude is positive, more than likely you'll get positive results. I believe if you tithe and give offerings from a sincere heart, God will bless you because He has found a vessel through which He can bless others. It's a part of His kingdom. But speaking money into bank accounts and checkbooks isn't God's prosperity model.
HJ Rhoades She didn't mean to literally prophecy or pray over your check book. She is teaching a message of faith and believing, not in money but in the Lord.
This is what happens when you get someone like Hank who only plays part of the message and not all of it. It can easily be taken out of context, twisted and used to serve their own Christian hating agenda.
Adam Goodword She is absolutely talking about speaking to your pocketbook. And she got it from another female prosperity teacher (unfortunately, I can't think of her name) who teaches the idea even more passionately. When Jesus told us that with faith we could move a mountain, He was obviously talking metaphorically.
HJ Rhoades >>>>SHE
jeff Set Free 4 Eternity That's a different conversation altogether.
+jeff Set Free 4 Eternity Amen!!!
I love listening to Joyce Meyer. I thank God for her!!!
@Kevin Willis Actually she is about giving
Did you listen to Hank?
Way to take her message out of context! If you listened to her on a regular basis you would know that she battled cancer and a brother's suicide. I am a changed person thanks to the Holy Spirit using her messages to bless me! We are tithing and now have more than enough so that for the first time in our lives we can financially bless others. She admits she's not where she wants to be but is so thankful to her Father, she's not where she used to be. She had a horrible start in life but through the grace of God she is pressing on. I've never failed to be blessed by a single message of hers in its entirety!
How can you take any Scripture out of context, twist it, lie about it & make it right regardless Roxanne. Show me anywhere we're told to give the Lord 10% tithes in the new covenant. Show me or just keep giving. Maybe she'll buy her a new jet with it. Christians, learn the word for yourselves. Stop taking man's word for everything.
Tammy Henson All donations go to her ministry. This can be seen as they give an account of their budget info to partners annually. The profits from her books pay for the rest. If under the law we were commanded to give 10%,what do you think we should be giving under grace? You can't out give God. Try it. The New Testament doesn't nullify the Old. Since we've been giving God at the very least 10%, we have been blessed 100 fold. Have you even listened to any of her programs or read a book she's written? God commands us in the New testament (1John 4:1) to "Not put faith in every spirit, but test the spirits to discover whether they proceed from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the word." How? Keep reading the next verse. "By this you may know the Spirit of God; every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has become man, and has come in the flesh is of God." Joyce confesses this in every book and show. Furthermore in 1 John 4:6, God in His Word says, "We are children of God. Whoever is learning to know God listens to us; and he who is not of God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of Truth and the spirit of error."
Out of context? "Speaking" prosperity into existence is not Biblical in ANY context.
Gage Kinard
God spoke the world in to existence and we are made in His image. Words are powerful. God's word is powerful. God's word spoken by us is powerful. This ruckus is ridiculous. Most people who are dissing Joyce have not really heard her enough to be her judge.
AGAIN, speaking PROSPERITY into existence is not in ANY context Biblical. I didn't say a think about God speaking the world into existence. For one thing, we are NOT God (and I've heard a clip somewhere where Meyer describes us a "little gods." Maybe you haven't seem enough of her stuff.) and we have no authority over stuff like that. Two, prosperity is NOT God's word. And three, if you hear Meyer speak, and you actually READ the Bible, you don't need to hear more of her stuff after the first false teaching.
Also, if you actually read your Bible, you would already know that women are not even supposed to be preachers. Get into the Bible, not Joyce Meyer's garbage.
That should be known because people has the idea that when they got saved all would be well. The person got saved and got sick and had to retire from work because of his sickness he could not work again and therefore was terribly disappointed in his salvation.
I am glad you pointed this out because I was into her until I heard what you said.
We warn in love.
Everything she says is not wrong. She is trying to help people APPLY the teachings in the Bible. I listen to her for that reason. But I listen to other preachers like Paul Washer for messages on the Cross. I can't continually listen to a preacher who is stuck at the cross and how to obtain salvation. You learn that, by alll means and get it down good, then you learn how to work out your salvation and how to live by The Word in your daily llife
So grateful Joyce Meyer's & Joel Osteen & the lot are finally being revealed for who they really are. I'm surrounded by so many who eat everything they say up like it's truer than the Real Word of God. I speak against her & people think I'm a crazy radical nutjob. So sad.
Time is running out, indeed, for people to come out of their trances. The door is closing.
So tithing was good in the Old Testament but now it’s heresy?
Study your word. The tithe in the old testament was a tithe of the land not money. It was to support the priest. PLEASE, I beg you church STUDY your Bible! If you don't...you will be deceived and that's what these prosperity teacher want...they want you to remain ignorant of the truth of God's word, as a matter of fact...they are BANKING on it.
yupia yupia can you explain your point?
Are you suggesting only farmers were required to tithe in the Old Testament?
@@edplaysdrums8435 Ed study your old testament. When God divided the land between the 12 tribes of Israel, He didn't give any land to the Levites, the priest, they were supported by the land tithe. Others later tithes their first fruits. Since most people were indeed farmers, as you put it, they tithes their land. I believe it was every seven years, but I'm not sure. I have read through the whole Bible and do not remember reading about a money tithe. God's new testament tithe is to give as it is laid on your heart, NOT OUT OF NECESSITY, like these prosperity teachers try to preach. Yes give. Give to feed widows and orphans, the poor and needy, not to help some liar buy another Bentley. I reiterate, read your Bible. you should know that The God of integrity would never have anything to do with this mess we see today.
Joyce Meyer teaches that John (the Revelator) was "SELF RIGHTEOUS" because he referred to himself as "The apostle that Jesus loved".
Very commendable Hank,
You can have it all like she does but you have to make a covenant with the Devil. I have 11 children from one marriage I’m now 76 The Lord has been good to me always. I have seen Gods hand in my life so often but most when I went through a deep valley. I had no income whatsoever for 2 years with 11 small children. However every day we had everything we needed. My Lord took care of all my needs everyday. It was the best time of my life. I have seen so many miracles happen before my own eyes. After 2 year we had income again. My wife said: “one thing of all we sold I miss, that is the antique clock.” The clock had a special sentimental value for us. I said: “let me see if I can buy one the same.” Yah she said: “but it will never be the same.” I went to the store but there was no Clock even not one that looked like it. So I asked the owner if he still knew me. Yes he said. So I asked if he ever get a clock the same as I sold him. To my surprise he answered: “It is at my house, My wife took it home.” I did get it back for the same money as I got for it. The Lord knew that my wife would miss it and kept it for us.
It is only by the Holy Spirit that we can understand that God the Creator of all things Sent His Only Begotten Son for us to Die at the cross for our sins; and come to know the forgiveness of sins for all those who put their faith and trust in Him. I feel so sad for people who Mock with God and the Lord Jesus.
Marius VanWoerden
"You can have it all like she does but you have to make a covenant with the Devil. I have 11 children..."
Tis' you who made a covenant with the devil; you sound like a card carrying member of the "Quiverfuull" sect, you have no self- control and inflict the consequences of your lust on helpless children and a burdened wife- shame!
@@BeachsideHank You are just clueless that is all I can say. Non of my children is helpless they all have done very well and we are extremely happy and love the Lord and each other. We could not miss one of us.
@@MariusVanWoerden You're the clueless one, a little education instead of ignorant self- indulgence would have given your wife some better odds: "Women who have more than one or two children increase their risk of a major heart attack in future by as much as 40 per cent, UK researchers have found.
The study by academics at the University of Cambridge showed the biggest risks were to mothers with five or more children, but increased with each successive child.
Pregnancy and childbirth each put significant strain on the heart, the researchers suggest, and this is in addition to the stress and demands of *raising a larger family* which leaves less time for self-care.
Having five or more children was also associated with a 30 per cent increased risk of heart disease - the major cause of heart attacks - as well as a 25 per cent increased risk of stroke and a 17 per cent increase in the risk of heart failure compared with one or two children."
So how is what Joyce Meyer said supposedly heresy? Didn't Jesus say that if you had faith as a mustard seed that you could speak to the mountain and it would be thrown into the sea? Didn't he also say that if his words abide in you and you abide in him, that you could ask what you will and it shall be done for you? Doesn't proverbs say that if you cast your bread upon the waters that it will return to you after many days? Does God want us to be poor, is there any blessing or joy in poverty? If we invest in his kingdom and exercise our talents, will they not come back to us? This man is making excuses in this case because he perhaps does not have faith to cast his bread upon the waters. Sounds good doesn't it? The little boy invested his lunch (fishes and loaves) and Jesus multiplied it, didn't he? In Joyce Meyers' case, she provides real world testimony of cases when she gave into God's kingdom and it was paid back to her. Do you believe her? Has this radio host tried what she has suggested, even once? A person can take the Word and choose any preconceived notion that they want, but it is not necessarily faithful. What did Jesus believe? He said that we could do what he did, so long as we abide in Him and exercise faith, and speaking, faith and giving are all a part of the blessings available to us. God spoke the universe into existence, we are made in his image and redemption through faith makes is available to us, and faith (within his will) must be exercised in order to grow and be effective.
She did not cure any amputee
kleenex3000 Neither did Jesus.
Adam Goodword J(the)C DID perform miracles - Joyce Meyer just preys on the gullible. Well, the gullibility of you and your ilk is a little miracle too
Blessings. Yes $$$ jewelry and clothes
Meyer abuses scripture. That is enough for me. Bless you :)
Let your messages open the eyes of many.. Bless you man of God.
Joyce Meyer abandoned Jesus army, and she has enrolled(maybe not even realizing) in Satan's army, deceiving herself and unfortunately deceiving her listeners. May God open your eyes, Joyce, untill is not too late for you.
I would like to add that J.M. saying words have power is right out of the word of faith false doctrine, Kenneth Copland. A person can make thier mouth say anything. That doesn't mean that a person can create reality with words. That is a God thing ,ONLY.
Well I'm certainly not a bible scholar and I don't generally defend any tv preachers as in never but as per your comment about words and reality. The opposite of reality is fantasy. The power of life and death are in the tongue, sure doesn't give the appearance of fantasy, at least to me.
Thank you Hank /CRI
Mixing truth with lies is apostasy.
I have studied Pastor Hank Hanegraaff books and teaching for over 30 years. He teaches Christian Apologetics. Apologetics. ( Greek ) means a system of discourse in defence of the doctrine and theology and writings of the early Christians. +
it's all very simple really; a vicious cycle. she preaches prosperity, which appeals to the greed of her congregation prompting them to make more donations. becsuse of the excessive donations she is able to model the doctrine of "blessings" she preaches which appeals even more to her congregation prompting them to give even more than they had given before. then the cycle continues.
etuboldon boldon u know nothing, of the preacher u are criticize
Joel listen, yes every message prosper preacher, joyce , no
Well said brother!
Joyce Meyer is wonderful. Dont take 2 minutes out of an hour long message and talk about context. Before you criticise Joyce Meyer please listen to a few of her sermons in full.
+Sandra D He stated at the very beginning of the video that he was not saying all of what she taught was wrong, but that she mixes in heresy throughout her teaching.
That is why he pulled out this 2 mins, to show the heresy she is mixing in with the good.
+Sandra D Sandra they are just trolls trying to make her look bad. We all know Joyce is a godly person. Just because you are a pastor doesn't mean you cant have money. People misquote that scripture all the time.
Jarrod McKinney Do you believe that as Christians we are little gods?
Do you believe that after Jesus died on the cross he went to hell and was tortured by satan and his demons in hell for three days till God said "enough" and rose Jesus from the dead?
Do you believe those things?
Because that is just a little of the unbiblical teaching that Joyce teaches.
You don't need to listen to an hour long message to realise that she has taken God's Word completely out of context. That is the issue. I have heard enough of her teaching to realise that she peddles God's Word
You half to have Some truth , that's what Satan is Google the Verse Satan is the subtle serpant.
Im not saying that she's right or wrong in this instance, but for anyone listening to her, if God is first in their lives and they listen to the voice of God, then what does it matter if she gets it wrong at times? I don't agree that everything she teaches is scripturally sound, but she speaks from her heart and has encouraged thousands and helped pull them from despair, myself included. Therefore I can only say I am grateful for her confessions that have encouraged me.
Yes exactly $ going in her pocket
Show me a poor preacher......um oh ya Jesus Christ one and only
Thank you, Hank. I would not have caught that. She does say some good stuff, and she is a remarkable lady, to say the least, but there are so few true bible expositors left..... you are a Godsend
Yes unfortunately it took me quite a while to realize this
The Word clearly tells us: That "Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits" (Proverbs 18:21). Of course, the "tongue" in this verse represents that which tongues produce: words. Jesus affirmed that "on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned" (Matthew 12:36-37). The words we speak will either build us up or tear us down (Proverbs 10:14; 13:2-3). Our tongue will either bring blessings or curses upon us-from both God and man-in both the present time and for eternity. So, what she was talking about with regards to what we say coming to pass is being in agreement with the Word of God, Having said that what she preached’ about the prosperity, about money, I totally disagreed with. I used to listen to her quite a lot in my earlier times when I came to the Lord but I don’t anymore. I pray in Jesus name that our Lord and Saviour will open up her eyes to see what Jesus wants her to see and open up her ears to hear Jesus’ voice alone. If we see that she is not adhering to Scriptures, please as children of God, let’s pray for her. May be these people don’t even realise that they’ve fallen into deception. May the Lord Jesus deliver us from all false doctrines and grace us not to ever compromise His Gospel, or our relationship with Him. Lord please guide Joyce Myer in Your ways for your name’s sake. Show her the TRUTH Oh Lord, and Your great love and mercy towards her and her own, for You don’t want anyone to perish but everyone to have eternal life in Jesus name. Amen.
Amen. I totally agree with you. Joyce appears to be most sincere. She's vulnerable and shares her flaws etc. and seems genuinely concerned for others' walk with God. Nobody is 100% correct. I believe she is doing her best.
Good references on the tongue. I believe our words matter much more than we think. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand the Bible--God created the Universe by SPEAKING IT INTO EXISTENCE. Good post Red Ross!
you've nailed her goofy teachings!
So how do you explain Romans 4:17? Cuz the verse says “EVEN God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.” So why does it say EVEN God. 🤔 I’m confused
In the KJV, the word “even” is italicized, which was purposefully meant to indicate words which are not found in the original Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek but implied by it. God promised Abraham that from his offspring will come a great nation, and God is the one who calls things that are not into existence. What Abraham could never do, God can most certainly do.
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Bible Answer Man thank you for explaining it to me. I just find it confusing that they added an implied word that wasn’t even in the original text. If they had omitted the word “even” I wouldn’t be perplexed. 😁 thank you!
so, she is a liar. say it plain. if she says she is not sayiing something but she is, then she is simply a liar. call it like it is. these people do damage to the innocent ignorant
...and you are what? The guilty wise? Again, watch her for a week and record every lie you can. Then get back to me.
Amen! Thank you!
That is just one message, just one!! Just because she teaches one message on finances doesn't mean that all her teachings are on finance.
You cannot pick out one single message and turn it into something it's not.
How about listening to all her other messages? How about listening to all her practical biblical teachings?
Joyce is talking about following the teachings in the Bible vs. the new age The Secret Law Of Attraction which is to wish for something and it will happen.
She is saying that The Secret is goofy! Do you not get that? She is attacking the New Age movement, and Oprah Winfrey and all those that follow the new age movement and the name it and claim it gospel.
She is saying, follow the living Word of God and be blessed, following the teachings of men and the doctrines of demons and not be blessed. Her teachings aren't merely about money and worldly possessions but spiritual blessings too.
You have to listen to the entire message and not single out parts to suit your own agenda.
+Adam Goodword thank you brother the same way they are analysing they bibles i guest .They think they have monopole of the truth . my question is this: you call yourself a man of God why don t you do an evangelism post of video either to lost time studying some other preacher , let the Spirit of God work in his people he is the one who convinced of sin , justice and judgement .
No, it is not just one...a litany of them has Joyce Meyer. She teaches that what transpired at the cross did not save us. Jesus has to go to hell and be tortured for 3 days, take upon himself the nature of Satan, die a spiritual death, be born again at the resurrection. She teaches that believers are "little gods." She teaches the doctrine called "law of attraction" which is not a Christian doctrine and a host of them.
I agree. Prosperity is the least of her false teachings. It's the magnet that's used by Satan to bring them in and listen to the other heresies.
Danielle, the Bible urges us to have discernment about whomever teaches God's Word. We are not criticizing her personal lifestyle nor her flaws as a preacher. Peter and Paul would've done the same to any false teachers. In Acts 17:22-31, Paul rebuked the unknown god in Athens. You should read your Bible carefully and discern what's being taught instead of accepting anyone's false teachings.
How much of the devil should one listen to before rejecting him?
Biblical Christians test all things to the word of God. It's called discernment.
Sadly lacking in these last days.
This is so sad to hear his words. What Joyce said is completely being taken out of context! She has had tragedy, cancer, a brother who committed suicide, being molested and on and on. Any one could take a snippet of your sermon and twist it. Very sad!!!!!
Is it confirmed that her brother committed suicide? I've only heard he was found dead. I assumed drug overdose, but never thought it was suicide.
She is a master mind that's why many are deceived but she is teaching prosperity using faith, twisting the word, and telling people to call things that are not as though they were, only God can do that. I agree new era disguised with laughter and manipulated bible verses
I don't care what preacher who talk about,i bet this guy would have something bad to say about them.
Because you don't like the Truth?
True
Actually, not. Hank is very fair handed. Most preachers ARE false teachers today. So it would be hard to find one that taught truly according to the Scriptures without introducing some destructive heresy. Truth is not measured by numbers of men, but by the actual words of the Scriptures.
@@TheRootedWord
You should check out Pastor Charles Lawson on UA-cam. He tells it like it is. He calls a spade a spade, and he doesn't add or subtract from the Bible. He's a straight shooter who preaches the TRUTH!! You might like him!! 😇🙏
@@kathierouse5306 Thank you Kathie. I will check him out. So far I have not yet found a pastor who is not polluted with the Great Rebellion, called Protestantism. I was too and came out of it and returned to the Bible, throwing out all of the twisted doctrines from Luther and Calvin and other philosophies of men. I sat at the feet of Christ anew and listened with fresh ears. I am calling all who consider themselves Christians to do the same.
I believe she's a good teacher if I have questions I go to the word
Thank you brother .i was waiting for someone to EXPOSE THESE DOGS ..
Paul wrote about being wise in living in abundance as well as in necessity of all, also he taught about knowing that none of those really matters, as we are just on a pilgrimage and none the food, clothes or material possessions are either good or bad, "but all that you do, do it for the Lord" , to all please use your time, energy and wealth wisely, sure there are "wolfs among us, since they came out from us, but they were not with us", just be clearly aware of the Antichrist which denies that the Lord came in the flesh and blaspheme the blood of the new covenant, just want to end with (and for me included) Hebrews 5:11 We have much to say about this, but it is hard to make it clear to you because you no longer try to understand. 12 In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! 13 Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. 14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.
She stole the thing about talking to your wallet from Marilyn Hickey who said this years ago, being a blab-it-grab-it name-it claim-it. no original thought here! It's like putting your wallet under your pillow and during your sleep unconsciously drawing it to yourself. wish boards on the refrigerator, etc..
As much as I agree with Him on the misuse of scripture, I have to add that he misquoted 1 Thessalonians 5:21 NKJV - Test all things; hold fast what is good.
He added "in the light of scripture" after "test all things." If you're gonna correct someone else you better keep your stuff straight as well.
Joyce Meyer should even be at the head of the sermon. Her job is at Sunday Schools. Any man going to her sermons need to check if you have a pair of balls.
why would Hank appear on joyce meyer show to promote his book?
I think you need to study your English Language more. Joyce does use the word, “are” (present tense-now, today), and the bible uses in some versions is “were,” (past tense). Why? Because the Bible was written over 2000 years ago (in the Past). So, are you telling the Bible is no long real today? I hope not! Joyce is using her Grammar correctly, because she is speaking about a written word from 2000 years AND still alive today. You are not! My Bible indicates what was true yesterday, is real and true Today. Apparently, your Bible does NOT!
What is REAL; is the Bible. God has made us promises over 2000 years ago that are true today. But, we need to have Faith! Joyce’s goal is to help “US,” to have more faith (Hebrews 11:1). Without Love and faith, we are crushed and destroyed (Proverbs). Joyce is only attempting to impress upon us that If look toward God, and worry not, that He (God the Father, (Genesis 17:5 Abraham probably means father of many, the exalted father), wants us to have success. But we have a part to do (Fath). So, God does allow trials, to help us. Remember, we “are” nothing without God’s help! If we were “Perfect,” we would not need God! No one is Perfect, only God!
You cannot just take one word out the Bible and say someone else is wrong. Especially, someone that God places there to help in God’s work. I am sure you know that is Basting God, who is Above all of us!
Check your Grammar because my Bible is NOT just one word, nor just for yesterday, but for yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Still Joyce is not God, yet she attributes Gods ability to create with words to herself.....
It is not God's work she is involved in. It is the enlargement of her own kingdom. This is the sign of many false teachers.
@@TheRootedWord Yes it is God's work she is involved in. Satan go bug someone else
@@partonlvr If you do not like what I have to say then stop responding.
Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. The Word of God can stand on its own.
“God and I don’t always agree, and I’m okay with that”
-Joyce Meyer (speaking with Beth Moore)
Who does always agree with God? We're humans! You think people happily agree with God when they get cancer or their child dies?
I like Joyce! :)
I have a serious question. I had a Glorious but strange thing happen when praying last year. I had a operation,and the Dr butchered me severely. I was crying out to God about pain and what Happened. Tears in eyes praying. When I notice I hear a very strange language praying along with my words,in my head,, but in a jiberish sounding language. I swear to my Father in Heaven it really happened. Did I somehow pick up on my spirit praying for me or with me. I need to understand this. I'm not a charasmatic. I'm somewhere in the middle between Baptist and penticostle. I believe what the Bible called tongues was men from other languages all understanding whatever language is being preached in. So I don't understand what happened. Please can you help me understand?