For further reading on the so-called pretribulation rapture, see www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/ www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/ www.equip.org/article/daniel-prophesy-seven-year-great-tribulation/ www.equip.org/articles/the-perils-of-newspaper-eschatology/ and www.equip.org/article/dispensationalism-indispensable/
@@elmac1085 First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELEIVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Gods word. Romans 6;23. For the penalty for sin is death, BUT, (the good news) The GIFT of God is ETERNAL LIFE, through Jesus Christ our Lord. The GIFT of God is eternal life. Those who have received the free gift, HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God cannot lie. John 6:47. John 3:18. Jesus said it, we believe it, and that settles it. John 3:16. First John 2:2. Romans 1:16. I am a bible believer. Not a Calvinist or an Arminian. I do not see either one of those in my bible. John 3:16 refutes both of them. First John 2:2 refutes both of them. John 5:24 refutes all false gospels. The gospel Paul preached and the gospel that Jesus preached. First Corinthians 15:1-4. That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that HE was buried and rose again on the third day, for our JUSTIFICATION. Romans 3:26-28. Romans 4:5-8. Jesus said it, we believe it, and that settles it. John 3:18. Believers are no longer condemned to hell, but UNBELIEVERS are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. John 10:28-29. Hebrews 13:5. He will never leave us or forsake us. He will never cast us out. John 6:37.
Ephesians 1:13-14. Our guarantee of eternal life. Ephesians 4:30. And Grieve not the Holy Spirit in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. The rapture of the church. I can not go to hell because he already paid for all my sins. I have no sins to pay for. And the GIFT of God is ETERNAL LIFE. We cannot lose eternal life, because it is eternal life. If we could lose it, it would not be eternal. If we could earn it, then Jesus died in vain. Galatians 2:21.
Hank I love your teaching on the false doctrine of the pre-trib rapture first taught by John Nelson Darby not all that long ago in the 1830s! People need to study church history to find out the truth and cross reference it with Biblical truth like you do and many of us do who study scripture. I totally agree with you on so much stuff the mainline churches have been teaching in error for decades. God bless you Hank and thank you for what you do for the Gospel. ✝️🙏✝️🙏
It doesn't matter whether believers will be raptured before the tribulation or after it. What matters is we must always be ready so that the day we die, we will be right with our God.
It mostly doesn't matter. But go ahead and tell someone who believes in pretrib rapture and see how nasty they get with you. Not all, but a good deal of these people have already fallen away.
It DOES matter in the sense that if you believe you're going to be captured and it never happens, you're going to be very disillusioned and lose faith because you have been taught wrong information! The "great falling away"! Pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib - they're all wrong. There is no SECRET rapture and then Christ coming back a third time! Read your Bibles!!
Hank is saying that there is no secret rapture it is more biblically called the Resurrection at Christs coming not a rapture. There is no Bible to support pretrib rapture. This was first started in the in the 1830s. The early church did not teach a rapture before the great tribulation that Jesus speaks of Matthew 24!
There is a pretrib rapture dear believer but not all those that believe in pretrib will go in pretrib.The Philadelphian saints are the church of BROTHERLY LOVE. The bride wants all saints to be harvested with the barley company at pretrib. The bulk of the church will reject the bridal calling. Believers will go to heaven when they are ready to be harvested. The crop must be ready before it can be harvested. Barley and wheat are both grain companies that are both planted at the same time, in the autumn. Barley matures faster than wheat and is harvested in the spring. BARLEY IS THE BRIDE, and she leaves at pretrib. Wheat is harvested in the summer. Wheat is the great multitude church gathered in Rev 7..... THE VIRGINS WITHOUT NUMBER AKA THE INNUMERABLE COMPANY! The final company, caught up at midtrib, before the open door is shut, are the grapes that are gathered at midtrib. The grapes are the 144,000 Jews. The Jews finally believe Christ is their king because they gleaned the truth from the Barley and wheat companies.
@@silenceseeker5456 Enoch received (the easy way out) because he did not go through the experience of the great flood where only eight souls were saved by water
The rapture will be at the last trumpet. (like it is written in scriptures below) (before the 7 bowls of the wrath of God) Revelation 10 -7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the MYSTERY of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. 1 Corinthians 15 -51 Behold, I shew you a MYSTERY; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed -52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1 Thessalonians 4 -16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the TRUMPET of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise -17 After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
@@1516Taylor That was 500 years before the flood. He could also die in that time. A very weak argument and it applies to all Rapture views, because the destruction of the wicked comes at His wrath after the GT at His 2nd coming, not before. Study the Day of the Lord and God's wrath in the Greek,(LITV bible), it will open your eyes.
If both the Saved and the Unsaved are Raised simultaneously and Judged as you CLAIM, what about Revelation 20:5-6, Which says, "The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.! This is the first Resurrection. Blessed and Holy are those who have part in the First Resurrection. The Second Death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.!!🤔✝️👀🫠♎️🕎🙋♂️
You are right, the rest of the dead do not come to life until the 1,000 years are finished. Those in the first resurrection will live in heaven with God, Christ and the holy angels. Satan and his demons will be confined to the earth until the dead are resurrected AFTER the thousand years. Those who really have the Spirit of God and Christ living in them are given this true understanding.
@Nick-83 God would preserve then through those trials of course. But nothing about a pretribulation rapture - the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millennium.
@@BibleAnswerMan It does not say "preserve" its says "escape". Two completely different words that mean 2 very different things. You don;t get to change the meaning of words to fit your false doctrines. Furthermore Revelation is clear many believers will be killed in a horrible manner in the tribulation, how is that preservation? Not to mention Rev 3:10 also says we will be kept from the hour of testing that will come upon the whole world. You are teaching false doctrine.
Altho87gh this is very unsettling matthew Ch 24 verses 29-31 are choronological and there is no pre trib rapture. i have heard all the 'what abut?" comebacks, and they have built this doctrine out of a few verses taken out of context, and sold it to the Church. I believed it for like 40 year2, but then asked GOD to teach me the truth on this false doctrine..I believe he did. Do I hope i am wrong? YES.. but we need to be saturated with God's word,and I believe Canada and the US have been free to study it because we are going to be hit very hard, harder than sodom and Gom were not as evil as we have become, because we have God's word, in almost every house.. HANK, I hope your handicap is single digit, and for someone a year or two older than me, you look super. I subbed you and than you for having the courage to tell the truth
The Greek word from this term “rapture” is derived appears in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, translated “caught up.” The Latin translation of this verse used the word rapturo. The Greek word it translates is harpazo, which means to "snatch or take away".
@@granthodges3012 'caught up' from Thessalonians 4.17 does not translate to 'rapture'. To 'rapture' is to break off from something not to get caught up. Different meanings entirely. When you stretch the meaning of 'caught up' to incorporate 'rupture' you risk breaking the semantics involved. Punn intended.
@@oneoctavelow Understanding the Bible begins with the Greek text, in this context, the Greek word harpadzo. In Liddell and Scott, p. 245, the classic Greek Lexicon, the hardback version, which I am lucky to own, on p. 245 begins the long entry on harpadzo. The first three meanings in order are: 1. snatch away, carry off. 2 seize hastily, snatch up. 3. Seize, overpower, over master. The next two entries are variations on No. 3. So the Latin translations used the future passive of the Latin "rapio", to translate harpadzo, which is how it came in to English. The Latin lexical form is "rapiemur", "to seize, snatch, or carry away", pretty much a one to one translation. This is how "the Rapture" came into our English speech about I Thessalonians 4:17. This is first year Greek lore. So I am certain you didn't look this up in a Greek lexicon. And you certainly are totally wrong as is whoever told you your story above. So . . . . your punishment . . . :) . . . is . . . Read Romans 11 aloud slowly and each time you come to the word Israel or a pronoun that refers back to Israel, you must say "The Church" with gusto! Listen carefully to yourself and how what you are reading doesn't make any sense, and realize that All the nation of Israel WILL BE SAVED! Isn't that wonderful?!
@@oneoctavelow ignore the word "rapture" and study the word "Harpadzo" . I love Andy Woods sermon series on "The Rapture" aka Harpadzo! I used to be a post trib guy, so glad I got the wake up call.
@@granthodges3012it is hard for me to take people like you seriously on the topic of religion. I fear that the gnostics were closer to the truth than are today's bible literalists. It is in fact pitiful to see grown men be so wrong about understanding God. Bible literalism is the path to perdition and for most of you it's already too late.
1.) Context 2.) Accurate Greek Translation 3.) Who the author is speaking/writing to. Look up the greek words Harpazo and Apantesis. These are the words that modern rapture-defenders use to translate as "Magical Vaporization of Believers" theory.
actually those verses speak of a post "abomination" rapture/meeting with Jesus, contrary to a pre trib idea. But the host of this video just talks and talks and NEVER makes his point clearly, ignoring scripture since it is contrary to his ideas. both the pre-trib idea is wrong as well as Hanegraaf's explanation
All you need to do is look at at all of matt 24 after the the tribulation of those days god sends out his angles to gather the elect notice after the tribulation not before
The left behind series(movie) has it backwards. Those left behind are the righteous. Those taken(raptured) are taken for judgement.Matthew 24:36-44 and Luke17:26-37. Darby was a priest that was disgruntled. He wrongly coined what rapture meant....judgement.
Poor Bible teaching irritates me. Study the WORD. Did God destroy the righteous in the Flood??? Could God destroy Sodom before the angels literally dragged Lot out? Would God promise the Harpazzo, the snatching away of the Bride of Christ and say “ COMFORT YOURSELVES ONE ANOTHER WITH THESE WORDS 1Thess. 4:16 then leave his Bride to suffer the TRIBULATION JUDGMENT where AntiChrist will be given power to overcome the saints? NO! In Revelation only Tribulation saints are on earth… the BRIDE IS AT THE WEDDING FEAST IN HEAVEN… the UNKNOWN DAY of Jesus return ( Above the earth ) is the RAPTURE… the KNOWN DAY of his Second Coming UPON the earth is the Second Coming which will be OBVIOUS to ALL the Tribulation saints for Scripture describes the exact Day THREE TIMES in THREE DIFFERENT WAYS 3-1/2 YEARS, or 42 MONTHS or 1,260 DAYS after the Abomination of Desolation which is the exact MID POINT of the SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION ( that SEVENTIETH WEEK OF YEARS OF DANIEL. READ SCRIPTURE..ALL THE WORD
I can see that your expertise is telling jokes. Noah was saved from wrath (flood), but he endured tribulation (mockery during his tenure in building the ark). Lot was saved from wrath (fire and brimstone) but he endured tribulation (Sodom and Gomorrah people's conduct) Pre-tribers in all era always mixing wrath and tribulation.
the flood killed ever human alive, Sodom and gomorrah were totally fried. so yyes, got deliver them.. BUT the trib does not 'fry or drown everyone. i stand on matt 24: 29 to 31.Read it, and do the math
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 the dead rise first. Rapture scripture. John 6:39,40,44,54. The dead rise on last day. Revelation 20:4-10. The first resurrection happens after the tribulation. Pretribulation rapture is not biblical.
when I came to understand this truth, it changed how I look at scripture, the problem now is finding like minded believers in a church setting. I don't feel we should have to hide this truth to be a part of a local body. any churches that hold to this belief?
All churches other than american non-denoms, some baptists and some pentecostals reject pre-trib nonsense. That leaves everything from Orthodoxy, Catholicism, Lutheranism, Anglicanism, Methodism, Episcopalianism wide open...the list goes on. If you are Protestant, basically any church that was founded before the 1800's. Pre-trib beliefs are a minority in Christianity.
Some Brethren Churches, various Reformed Theology Churches. If you're in Colorado, I can make specific recommendations. None of these, while post trib, make this a central doctrine or essential matter, which I believe is correct as well.
1. Why then watch and pray, "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Luke 31:36. Why is there a 1st Resurrection (of which Jesus Christ is The First Fruits?) 2. There is still 1 week missing in Daniel's 70 weeks prophesy, 7+62=69 having been fulfilled. Also, these 69 were fulfilled by Israel. 3. Revelation informs us in The Word of God that the anti-christ will put an end to sacrifice 3 1/2 years into the 7 year period / covenant that is signed. Israel, must declare / say "Blessed is He who comes in The Name of The Lord" and they will do this when they realize that Jesus Christ is their Messiah. 4. Can you explain the appearing of Jesus IN THE CLOUDS vs His Feet touching / landing on the Mount of Olives. Appearing for those waiting and expecting Him and for those rejecting Him, like a thief in the night. Landing on the Mount of Olives, every eye will see Him.
1. The Greek says watch and pray that you may have the strength (to overcome), to escape. There is an escape from and out of trial, God makes a way of escape out of trouble (Ps 124:7+8; 2.Peter 2:9). The context says we will see all these things (Mat 24:15+33). The FIRST RESURRECTION is the first (proton) of two resurrections, the next is 1000 years later, not 1007 (Rev 20:4-6). The First fruits are the first of a harvest of 3 resurrections with a changed body, afterwards ALL believers in Christ, dead and alive at His parousia = advent, that is after the GT (Mat 24:29-31)and includes the Saints of the Tribulation. There is no resurrection nor a coming of Christ before the last 7 years! Not in the bible. Then comes the end, the last resurrection of the just and unjust after the Millennium. You make the First Resurrection to the second, the Greek word protos is always the first of the following ones, it does not go backwards. In Rev 20:4-6 it is the first of the believers in Christ, the First-fruits are OT saints. 4. Your problem with Mat 24:29-31 is you cannot see, that Jesus does not come to the earth and lands on the mount of Olives, He comes in the clouds and gathers His elect, which are NT believers (1.Peter 1:2}, not surviving Jews. The Jews and the nations come to Jerusalem in the Millennium (Jesus sits on the throne, to judge the nations) after His coming in the air. The gathering through the angels is the harvest (Mat 13:30:39+49), not the coming of the Jews to Jerusalem. The gathering of Mat 24:31 is the same as 2. Thess 2:1 unto Him, Who is in the air. The Jews are brought by Gentiles in earthly vessels (Isa 66:20; 14:2; 49:22), God makes a highway for them (Isa 11:15+16).
@@benny-yj7pq Greek is not the pure language of the LORD. Read the holy scriptures and learn the words of the Lord are pure words of a pure language and his language is not Greek.
Its a waste of time arguing with those deny PRETRIB.Let them prepare for the Tribulations rather than Rapture or death whichever comes first.Its sad they believe JESUS CHRIST died in vain to let them go through the Tribulation.
@@danieltait5115 I made mention of the Greek language not being the language which is the holy scriptures. The language in the book of the LORD is known as Hebrew. All the words in the book of the LORD are pure words and even the one and only word which is known to be Greek (Apollyon) is a pure word. Revelation 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. The Lord declared all 66 books of the LORD in one pure language from the beginning when he pronounced every letter of every pure word with his lips in the Hebrew tongue: Psalm 119:89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Isaiah 46:9-10 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, [10] Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. Psalm 33:11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations. Acts 26:14-16 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. [15] And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. [16] But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; (The Jews did not have advantage by the Lord giving his words to the Jew's in an alien Gentile Greek language: Acts 22:1-3 Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you. [2] (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,) [3] I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day. Romans 3:1-4 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? [2] Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. [3] For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? [4] God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. Psalm 119:160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalm 119:128 Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way. (the question is: what is the true Hebrew tongue which the whole earth spake before Babel and which is likened to the language in the generation of the Lord's return?). There is no other book likened to a particular book men call (the King James Bible) having all the required mate lines which prove it to be perfect. All other books when examined and the spirits are tried are found to condemn themselves.
@@1516Taylor They didn't speak Hebrew in the beginning of the world. They spoke a language unknown to men now, because God abolished it and dispersed the people and the languages at Babel.
So if the second coming was in 70 AD, then that means there is no more salvation, no more Gospel, no more elect, and no resurrection. It means there is no more Christianity. These are the consequences of full preterism.
@@70AD-user45 no one typed or said the 2ndcoming was in 70 a.d.,it was the 3.5 year tribulation Daniel prophesied,,,if revelation was written after 70 a.d.john would have written about it.
@@70AD-user45 70 AD was not the second coming. It was the judgement on "this generation" spoken of in Matthew 24:34. So thankfully we still have Christianity until Jesus returns a 2nd time. whew that was close!
@@70AD-user45 Listen to our Lord Jesus Christ when He says “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Matthew 24:29-30
@@dist221 Are you taking all those verses literally? It's what you call Hebraic apocalyptic language which was written using hyperbolic (exaggerated) language. You need to find out what those verses SYMBOLISE? For example, what does it mean that the Son of Man will "come on the clouds of heaven"? Obviously this is symbolic language.
Easier said than done. Every time I think I've gotten it right, I've got about 20 different religious people telling me I've got it wrong. So, I figure, I'm better off listening to that quiet voice of God that reveals lessons to me from time to time. They make a lot more sense then all the preachers I've ever heard, and all the religious people I've ever encountered.
@@tarzanvineswinger7405 This passage is speaking about Israel, not the Church. "Thou has increased the nation, oh Lord...Lord in trouble have they visited Thee, they poured out a prayer when Thy chastening was upon them...Like a woman they cried out in their pangs...we have been with child. but we have not wrought deliverance on the earth...thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body they will arise...Come my people, enter into thy chambers and shut the doors about thee, hide thyselves as it were for a little moment...for behold the Lord comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity." Isaiah is prayer this pray about his people Israel, not about the Church. God will hide Israel in the time of trouble.
Read and study the word of GOD AND be like the Berren in the book of acts who searched the scriptures daily to see if these things Paul spoke were true God's word is true your responsible for checking it out please do
@@brettkrueger9464 I've studied the Bible daily for over thirty years and found that these things are not true. There is no hint whatsoever of any of the variations of Dispensationalism as they are taught. There are of course two dispensations recorded in the Bible, the old and the new. The word "dispensation" comes from the Greek "oikonomos" which means, literally, "law of the house." In the beginning, God created man in His image and dwelt with him in Eden. Under the Old Covenant, God's "house" became the Temple. It was were His glory dwelt, for a time. Moses was the steward of that House and "dispensed" the law to the people. In the fulness of time, Jesus became the true Temple, the dwelling place of God. It was in Him that the glory and the fulness of the godhead dwelt. After Jesus death and resurrection, He ascended to the right hand of the Father. From there He sent His Spirit, and those who believe become Living Stones in the Temple of Christ's Body, filled with all the fulness of God, and changed from glory to glory into His image. Paul is the steward of God's New Testament House, dispensing the Law of Christ to God's people. It's as simple as that. The Church is pictured as a holy City, a Bride made up of walls with the names of the twelve apostles, and gates with the names of the twelve tribes. Apart from the Church, Israel after the flesh has no inheritance. God does not have two peoples, an earthly Israel and a heavenly Church. God and the Lamb dwell in the midst of the Holy City, the HEAVENLY Jerusalem, a people crucified with Christ and raised up, seated with Him in heavenly places. God's Kingdom is not of this world. If it were, His servants would fight to bring it to pass. The writer of Hebrews tells us, "...You have come to Mount Zion...the church of the Firstborn whose names are written in heaven..." Read the rest of Paul and you will find that God's ETERNAL PURPOSE from the foundation of the world is to bring all things in heaven and earth and under the earth, together IN CHRIST. It is not to separate the earthly and the heavenly as Dispensationalist claim. The Church is the fulfillment, or culmination of the ages (I Corinthians 10), the fulfillment of all the types and shadows of the Old Testament, for "the Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." I grew up a Dispensationalist, believing in a Pretrib rapture. I had all the books and DVDs and tapes and charts and understood it all. I listened to all of the TV preachers, Lindsey, Stone, VanImpe, Walvoord, etc. Then I began studying the Bible and found none of these things they taught. In Dispensationalism, passages as wrested out of context, words and terms and definition are conflated, a priori assumptions are made and the literal hermeneutic that Dispensationalists claim to use consistently, is only used when a passage seems to support their theory. Those that contradict their theory are conveniently place in the "for Israel" category. Great tribulation becomes the wrath of God, even though it is the antichrist who perpetuates this great tribulation after the placing of the abomination. John is said to represent the Church in Revelation 4 when he is purported to be raptured, but then for some unknown reason, when he is taken into the wilderness he ceases to be the Church. Paul, quoting Isaiah, tells us that "though they be like the sands of the seashore, only a remnant will be saved. Later He tells us that "in this manner, all Israel will be saved." Logic tells of that "all Israel" and the "remnant" must be describing the same group of people. He also tells us that that remnant was being saved in His day, just as the remnant was being saved in Elijah's day. And that remnant will continue to be saved until the fullness of the Gentile is come into that remnant of Israel, the Olive Tree. (The implication of God's people being an Olive Tree is that they are filled with olive oil, a symbol of the Holy Spirit.) Under the Old Covenant, God's chosen people consisted of an earthly kingdom. Under the New Covenant, His people consist of a remnant of faith OUT OF the earthly nation, NOT the entire nation. The Kingdom was taken away from Israel a given to a people (the remnant of Israel) who would bear the fruit of the Kingdom. Under the Law, there is no fruit, for the Law brings wrath, and a curse. With the coming of the Spirit, a believing remnant of Israel was born again and became fruitful. It is this faithful and fruitful Israel that Gentiles are grafted into, and those unbelieving branches of Israel that were broken off because of unbelief, in order to be saved, can only be saved by receiving the Spirit through faith. Of course, this Spirit is the same Spirit that Dispensationalist say is removed with the Church at the rapture. And somehow, void of the Spirit, 144,000 Jewish "evangelists?" (something never indicated in the text) will bear the fruit of salvation, bringing a multitude into the Kingdom (a different Kingdom that the one Christ rules over, which is not of this world.) Anyway, Dispensationalism is a complex web of deceit and sleight of hand, and that is why it is so hard to disprove. It takes years of study to unravel the complex web of lies.
We just need to be ready regardless of what God decides to do...but this video is so needed because some Christians are hanging thier hat on this pre tribulation hope. We want to have our spirits ready for if we are persecuted in the tribulation knowing that is where our victory is at just like the son of man who lied his down before us.
The first chapters of Revelation exhort the churches to overcome. How did Jesus overcome? By submitting to death. Therefore God exalted Him and gave Him the Name that is above every other name. Pretribbers believer they will be exalted without even having to overcome anything. But what are those things that the Spirit is urging the churches to overcome? The very things that are revealed in the rest of Revelation. The NT tells us to consider it pure joy when we face trials of many kinds, knowing that the testing of our faith develops perseverance, and perseverance makes us mature and perfects our faith. Paul urged us to rejoice in suffering and to be patient in tribulation, and he longed to fill up in his flesh the sufferings of Christ, being made like Him in His death, so as to somehow attain to the resurrection of the dead. We are told over and over against to watch and pray. Pretribbers think this means to watch for the rapture. But that is not the meaning. It means to watch, be on guard, be careful, lest we fall into temptation and deception. Jesus, during His hour of temptation in Gethsemane, urged the disciple to watch and pray. When they had fallen asleep, He asked, Could you not watch for one hour? This is a type of the hour of temptation in Revelation. Like Peter, many will be caught unaware and will fall away like the seed sown on throne ground. When trouble and persecution come, because they have no root, they will quickly wither. Unfortunately, they will not heed any of the warnings because they believe that they are for Israel and not the Church. They have been deceived by the false doctrine called Dispensationalism.
Mate, do you have personal relationship with The Lord? When conveying his Rapture Message to Thessalonians, did not Paul the Apostle say, " wesay unto you by the word of The Lord" (1 Thessalonians chapter 4 vs. 13-18). It was The Lord"s Message Paul was delivering to the people of God, NOT his own fanciful fable! How could you and other Saints absorb any nauseatic doubts from boffins like this one on the video? Did not our Lord Yeshua The Messiah warn us as the primary thing, to watch out that no man deceive you? (Matthew 24:4). What more could one say?
@@lawrencegarcia1675 That’s an assumption…your assuming that fear of the tribulation is what’s going to keep us following Christ when it’s the fear or reverence for the Lord that will keep us not the fear of a event. In the tribulation there will still be people that will deny Christ so that event cannot be our reason.
Oh then I have good question who are the people that are alive during the millennium reign? Since the church is taken in the end with Christ and the rest die with the antichrist? Right? So who are those people?
Christians are not going to face great tribulation because its Jacobs trouble. Christian have job to do now, and they're being persecuted for this all their life, and moreover, a christian life is a sacrificial life. It's started with Jews its going to end with Jews.
Read the Orthodox Study Bible & read the Patristic Church fathers. There have been more than 10,00 Protestant Church founders who each believed the Holy Spirit was guiding them in their unique idiosyncretic interpretations. Obviously, not all were correctly guided in their interpretations. Many suffered and many continue to suffer from what is called Prelest (spiritual self-delusion). E.g., "I know what this says after 2000 years, I have the insight, I know what this means, I am special, everyone else has been doing things wrong!" The work has already been done for us. We have the Church, thanks be to God.
I keep hearing "let the holy spirit guide you" . Judging from the 45000 Christian denominations in the world it seems to me that very few understand what it means.
@@toddott633 The bible does not contradict itself therefore the spirit of God would not tell one person one thing and another something else. It seems more likely that the reason for so many denominations is human error.
I was once pre-tribulation and now I’m post tribulation but I wouldn’t complain if the rapture occurred and I was taken out of the way there. We’re gonna go down to the minute when Jesus is coming back everything works on our time clock with God 1268 from the abomination of desolation is I understand it something plays about 30 days additionally into that if I understood what my mother taught me.
IDK I always felt the rapture teaching is very American like our brothers and sisters suffer so badly but we think we’ll be raptured before it gets so bad here.
Acts 14:22 King James Version 22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much TRIBULATION enter into the kingdom of God Wake up!
@@samanthagirikhanov2796 that verse is proof that there is NO such thing as a pre-trib rapture. Think about this, all Christ disciples went through tribulation. The apostles went through tribulation. And even Christ himself did. So are we greater than the master? NO! Those that are alive will go through much tribulation before the return of Christ Yashaya. I actually had to go back and read your original post again, I was thinking you believed in the rapture theory. But you're right it's a very American thing. So many people will be shocked and turn away from God once they find out the rapture is just one big lie!
@CeJay - It is really the reverse. The theology of the Left Behind series made it into the church and certain church folks decided to writes stories and make movies based on the Left Behind theology they were taught. See www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/ and www.equip.org/articles/when-truth-gets-left-behind/
As most movies are but the doctrine of the rapture as you can imagine was not based on a movie but on biblical truth which distinguishes between the church and Israel. The anti-Semitic doctrine of replacement theology which says the church replaced Israel is straight from the pit of hell. Read Romans 9 to 11
@@robbiemcnichol4007 Incorrect. "Replacement theology" is the truth about the church of Christ and has always been preached for the past 2000 years. The racist doctrine that certain people are better than others because of their ancestral sperm donors is of Hell. Also known as Loxism,it crept into the church in the late 19th century.
“Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV 1. I declare unto you the gospel (good news) 2. Wherein ye stand ( foundational doctrine) 3. By which ye are saved (not lost) 4. unless ye believed in vain ( there’s a way to falsely believe) 5. Christ died for our sins 6. was buried 7. rose again the third day “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,”- Ephesians 1:13 KJV 1. ye trusted 2. ye believed 3. ye were sealed “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” Ephesians 4:30 KJV 1. ye are sealed “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” John 11:25-26 KJV 1. he that believeth in me; though he were dead, yet shall he live 2. whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.” John 6:47 KJV 1. he that believeth on me 2. hath everlasting life “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 5:24 KJV 1.he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me 2. Hath everlasting life 3. Shall not come into condemnation 4. Is passed from death unto life you’re not saved by what you do, you’re saved by what Christ has done for us, his sacrifice on the cross for the remission of sins so your sins are forgiven and his righteousness is imputed unto you “And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:” Philippians 3:9 KJV “Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” Romans 3:22-26 KJV do you truly believe in his words? Do you truly believe that he died for your sins to be forgiven? Do you truly believe you have passed from death unto life or will You believe what the world wants you to?
Two thousand five hundred years before Darby’s lived, Isaiah wrote of a pre-tribulation resurrection. A resurrection of joy and singing. A resurrection that was followed by an invitation to his people to: “Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.” The dead - and those raised to life - aren’t in need of shelter from the LORD’s wrath; but those who are alive and remain are. Regardless, there is zero doubt that there will be a resurrection of joy and singing that occurs BEFORE his wrath is poured out on the inhabitants of the earth. Don’t let the blind lead you into a ditch.
So was Isaiah speaking to Israel or to the church concerning this passage? Because Israel & the church have two separate paths according to dispensationalism.
@@nicktorea4017 I have not heard any speak of dispensationalism in the last 25 years! Now, you have opened a can of worms! Dispensationalism is only held by a few abominations, oh I mean denominations! It is true that God works His Wonders differently according to the greatest need for that particular person, people group or church at a particular time, but to impose a theory as a fact shows a bias towards a denominationalism instead of just basking in the Light that we have now, and telling everyone the Goodness of our Lord and Savior. Dispensationalism divides the church as there is no mention of it in the Bible except the author of Hebrews who stated that God does work differently for each individual that loves His Son: Heb. 1:1,2. However, Paul stated, "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, now and forever." (loose interpretation). Therefore, dispensationalism is a subject that pestors have stopped preaching because of the division it causes. Focus on what matters, faith, hope, and of course Love, because love is the greatest because, "God is Love!" Leave dispensationalism to the scribes, Sadducees, and Pharisees who love to add to His Word, even though Rev. states we will be cursed by doing so! Hope you make it!
@@nicktorea4017 Uhh, no that is not dispensationalism. Under dispensatinalsim ALL in Christ, both Jew an Gentiles are one body. The fulfillment of Gods promises to Israel come AFTER the church age in the 1000 year reign. So yes its true Gods plan for Israel and the church are different, but ALL those in the church age who are in Christ 9JEW AND GENTILE) are one body.
Pretrib is biblical. The command is to be looking for the return of Christ not the appearance of antichrist. The church is never mentioned after chapter 3 in revelation.
@@jimness3760JESUS TAUGHT PRE-TRIB, DUH! As a 67-year old Bible teacher, I teach what both the Old Testament and the New testament teach: that unless the Church is removed 7 years prior to Christ’s return-to finish the final seven years of Daniel’s (490-year) 70 “weeks” prophecy (Daniel 9:24-27, Matthew 24:15)-national Israel CANNOT be saved. To repeat: the Church, the in-dwelling Holy Spirit and the gospel of the Cross must be removed via the pre-Tribulation Rapture-for SEVEN YEARS-before Jesus can return and save Israel into Christ’s 1,000-year Kingdom. BTW, if you know your first century Church history-and obviously you don’t-then you’d already know from church records (like the DIDACHE) that Jesus (Matthew 24:14-15, John 10:16) taught a pre-Tribulation Rapture, and also Paul, who wrote both 1 and 2 Thessalonians, specifically to explain a pre-Tribulation Rapture to the Thessalonian church, after demonic Biblically-ignorant FALSE PROPHETS and heretical SCOFFERS attempted to sow discord on the Church… …in exactly the same way as you. 👿
@@davidrosen3736Anyone saved AFTER the Rapture are called Tribulation Saints or the Tribulation “elect”. They are not the Church. They refused the Cross…thus, they’ve been left behind. They are the bridesmaids, mentioned in Matthew 25:1…they are not the Bride. BTW, all Believers over the oats 6,000 years are called the “elect”…the faithful from the Old Testament, the current Church age, the 7 years after the Rapture, and in the 1,000 year kingdom. Thus, the word ELECT is not exclusive to the Church.
The command to be looking for the return of Christ was for Jesus' disciples at that specific time. Remember that Jesus not only told His disciples that their generation would not pass away until "all these things take place," but also that "some standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in His Kingdom." That "coming" happened in AD 70. It was not what you call the "Second Coming," which is a term that does not exist in Scripture. It was the establishment of Christ's Kingdom on Earth. The Bible does not say Jesus will establish His Kingdom on the last day. It says He will hand over His Kingdom to His Father on the last day. Our marching orders are not to be watching for the return of Christ. Our marching orders are to make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in His Name, and teaching them to obey all that He commanded.
I don’t know how a person can read Matthew 24 and ever come up with a pre tribulation rapture. Jesus himself tells us when it will happen in verse 29. “Immediately after the tribulation” What is it about “after” that so many Christians just don’t understand. It doesn’t mean before and it doesn’t mean in the middle it simply means after. Jesus was talking to four of his disciples who asked him the question of what will be the sign of his coming and when will it happen. Jesus answered both these questions for them. Were they able to understand what Jesus was saying, go and check with Marks account and Lukes account and read what they said. They have no doubt as to what Jesus had said so here we have two independent witnesses testifying of their understanding. I believed in a pre trib rapture for over 70 years until I thought I would do my own research as to whether it was pre trib or post trib. It finally hit me as though it was hidden there all the time in plain sight. I still wonder to this day how on earth did I not see this earlier on. Either you believe what John Nelson Darby said or you believe what Jesus himself said. No contest.
@@Acrosurge I only held that belief because I grew up with it and knew nothing else. Eventually I wondered why there were other opinions and decided to do an indepth study on the subject. I had to come to the conclusion that my beliefs were completely wrong and that was hard for me to accept. The truth sets you free.
I agree. I was the same way until I started questioning things in my 30s. In Matthew 24:34, Jesus says the "great tribulation" happened in the first century (before AD70). See Luke chapter 21 (and verse 32) also. Most of Revelation was also written apocalyptically about events in the first century. Read the Bible and start with "Last Days Madness" by Gary Demar to get a fresh Biblical perspective on the "last days".
We were pretrib until we heard out loud why pretrib teachers determined that view. So many red flags begin to wave and fly off the pole. This caused us to dig in deep and research. Upon our result thus far we are neither pre nor mid according to our searching of the scriptures and historical research. We didn't quite fit fully in with the post-trib theory but recently found out a little more about the pre-wrath. For right now, pre-wrath is where we pretty much identify with what lines up to our research.
Pre wrath is most definitely the biblical view. I’m baffled how this video seemed to be completely debunking by pre trib by saying there is no tribulation at all. There will without a doubt be a final tribulation and the church is here for it. How he can think 70AD can fit anything in revelation is baffling. Jesus said everything in the psalms, prophets and law of Moses MUST be fulfilled. If that’s the case there HAS to be a 3rd temple and there has to be a milleniel reign. And how can he claim nobody repents on his arrival when Joel 2 says that many do and he relents. So many people don’t read the Old Testament.
@@kingsolomon3175 There simply is no such thing as pre-wrath in the Bible, only 'the wrath of God'. And this wrath of God came upon His Lamb on the cross. IT IS FINISHED! Also there is NO rapture, although the word appears in the Bible. Matt 5:5 The book of Revelation was fulfilled at the cross of Jesus. 70 AD. Also it was written for the people of Israel only, not for us living after the cross. Yes, Jesus did say everything written in the Psalms, prophets & law was appointed on Him, but that was brought into fulfilling at the cross. 'For the Christ is the END of the law. And because of Him, God HAS transferred His perfect righteousness to all who BELIEVE'. Rom 10:4 No, there simply is NO 3rd temple to be built any place on earth, as wé are His holy temple, His sanctuary, His dwelling place! Christ is living in and thru us. Col 1:26-27.. and from out thís holy temple He will soon manifest His final appearances as 1Thes 4:13-18 have it! (we symbolic are the clouds). Repent on His arrival ?? Definitely no, as this is what we are looking to, His final appearances! What is there to repent of if Jesus already has dealt with the sin of the world with the promise never to think of that ever again?? John 1:29 + 3:16,17 Hebr 8:12 + 10:17 No my brother in Christ, we are the righteousness* of God in Christ. (as if we've never sinned). This is the gift of the Father. How precious. 'As He is, so are we in this world'. 1John 4:17 We have been declared holy by His word, and we receive this gracefully and try to live a life that's to the glory of His holy name. Save by Hís grace, His love and His faith.
@@eekay5710 Wait how did the Book of Revelations get fulfilled at the cross when it hadn't been written yet i think you may be confusing Revelations with Daniel.
@@MrWrestlingfan1986 Both Rev and the book of Daniel has been fulfilled at the cross of Jesus. Abraham saw the cross long before Jesus was cruicified.. visions! 'Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day, and he saw it and was glad'. John 8:56 Most Christians believe that the books of Daniel, Rev and Matt 24 is for the future, while it was speaking of the people of Israel. Acts 2:16-21 Peter preached to thém and warned thém with the following words.. 'And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation". Acts 2:40 The cross are the end. We as believers in Jesus Christ has come to the beginning' where their is no end'. The biggest revelation was given to Paul.. Christ within us! Col 1:26-27
I find it absolutely amazing that an intellect like this actually implies J.N. Darby as being the one who devised the pretrib Rapture. He really ought to contact Lee Brainard, who has discovered dozens of ECFs who taught the pretrib Rapture.
Lee is doing a superb job in finding more ECF's that support the Pretrib doctrine. The 'Bible Answer Man' would do well to actually believe what the Bible states. But I suspect his pride would never allow it.
Who cares!!!! The early church believed Jesus would return any second, supporting the "be ready" and pretrib. conclusion. Whether we are pre, mid, or post is a wrong question to ask anyway. The real question is are we ready!
One day, messiah will arrive in Jerusalem. He will sit in the throne of David at the newly constructed temple. He will establish world peace, beginning with a covenant between the Middle Eastern nations. The chosen people of God will bow before him and Christians will follow suit. While the world basks in the glory of Christ, a light will shine in the East. The true Christ Jesus will return and the nations will mourn. They will cry for the rocks to fall on them, but death will flee from them. Why? Because when Jesus returns we will be all be changed “in the twinkling of an eye” into our spiritual bodies. The only death then will be at the white throne judgement for those not found written in The Lamb’s Book of Life. If you don’t think Satan can’t deceive you into thinking he is Jesus Christ and ruin your salvation, remember, he deceived a third of God’s own angels who stood before his very throne. The Antichrist arrives in Jerusalem first. At the 6th seal, 6th trump and 6th vial. That’s why the scripture says to “enumerate” the number of the man to know who he will be. “666” Jesus Christ returns at the last/7th trump, AFTER Antichrist and his tribulation on mankind. 2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4 KJV 1st Corinthians 15:52 KJV Let he who have eyes see, and he who have ears hear. If you can receive this, and you can see the truth, you are not blinded by the “strong delusion”, you are one of God’s elect. Receive God’s Truth DO NOT BE DECEIVED BY SATAN
Unbelievers will be on the earth after the rapture of the church. These people will have the opportunity to place their faith in Jesus. This man is a preterist who ignores the passages in the Bible that describe the rapture and the 7 year tribulation.
i haven't believed in a pre or mid trib rapture for quite a while after being turned off by church after church who elevated the idea that we will avoid tribulation to the same level of reverence as the salvation gospel itself. they often talked more about the 'rapture' than they did about the gospel. and we were not allowed to even QUESTION the pre-mid rapture when it clearly made no sense to us
@@franciegwin The tribulation is not just persecution, it's the *wrath of God* being poured out on the earth! Revelation 6:16-17; 14:19; 15:1, 7; 16:1; 19:15. See 1 Thessalonians 1:10; & 5:9. The children of God are delivered *from* His wrath. Yes, we are to suffer persecution for the name of Christ. But we are *not* appointed to suffer the wrath of God against the wicked!
Who says it’s easy way out? We already suffer enough on this earth, glad we only live once because I can not do it all over again. The problem if we’re still on earth during the wrath of God on what is written in Revelation then we are susceptible to the mark of the beast. What for Christ died for us? He revealed His mystery in Eph 1:11-14 The Holy Spirit sealed us guaranteeing our inheritance until the day of redemption. Rev 14:9 says those who accept the sign of the beast will not enter the kingdom of God. Doesn’t make sense right? those who refuse still be save through doctrine of Grace. No one knows when He comes again but one thing is sure, it’s soon!
@@judylloyd7901 In neither I Thessalonians 1:10 nor 5:9 is there any mention of "the tribulation." The "wrath" that Paul is taking about is in contrast to salvation. He is specifically talking about the Day of the Lord (5:2) which comes as a thief in the night. This is Jesus' Second Coming, NOT an event seven years prior to that. According to Joel and Isaiah, the Day of the Lord happens AFTER the darkening of the sun, moon and stars. And according to Jesus, the darkening of the sun, moon and stars happens AFTER "the tribulation of those days." In other words, the order of events is this: 1) the tribulation of those days, THEN 2) the darkening of the sun, moon and stars, THEN 3) the Day of the Lord, which comes suddenly, without warning, and ends in the destruction of the wicked. (Prior to this time, unbelievers, who live in darkness, will be eating and drinking, and marrying and being given in marriage, just as in the days of Noah, unaware of the events which will soon come. Believers however are not in darkness that that day should overtake them. Jesus tells us in Luke's gospel, "WHEN you see these things, look up for your redemption draws near. ("These things" are signs in the sun, moon and stars, distress of nations, men's hearts failing for fear, the shaking of the powers of heavens). There is no such thing as an "imminent" rapture that can happen at any time. What the Bible teaches is ONE coming that will take unbelievers by surprise. They will not be looking for the signs and will be caught by surprise. When we are told to "watch," it is not talking about watching for a rapture. It means that we are to be on guard, to be diligent, lest we fall into temptation and deception. Dispensationalist love to twist the meaning of Scripture to suit their own agenda. (e.g. by conflating the terms "wrath" and "tribulation," changing the meaning of words such as "apostasy" and "watch." Not only that but Paul tells us that "now is the time for judgment for the people of God, and even now"the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven." God's wrath and His judgements have been poured out from the beginning. God's judgments are for the purpose of repentance, but there will come a time when men no longer repent, and it is then that God will pour out His unmitigated wrath on the wicked. So, no we are not appointed to wrath, but we are appointed to tribulation, even GREAT tribulation. The great tribulation is not "great" because of its intensity, but because of its extent. Persecution and martyrdom in the past has been intermittent and sporadic. In the future it will be continuous and worldwide. Even now we can see the rage building up, and soon it will be directed to God's people. But as Jesus says, though we be killed, not a hair on our heads will perish.
@@judylloyd7901 The wrath of God came on His Lamb some 2,000 yrs ago. IT IS FINISHED! Revelation was written for the people of Israel, not for us living after the cross. The message of reconciliation was given to us, not a message which confuse believers or put fear for the unknown in their hearts. We who believe in the Son of God, we know without any doubt that the Father loves all of us and that no harm will ever be done unto us. The best advice is to come away from the book of Revelation and Teachers on this book, as 100 teachers will all have their own understanding. Read the love letters that the Spirit of God has written to us.. John, Ephesians, Colossians etc etc and pay good attention to yr quite time with the Lord Jesus. He is inside of us, do not look outside. For when we look away from Him, we will experience what Peter experienced when he took his eyes off Jesus. Matt 14:22-31
The entire Bible teaches us about the pre-trib rapture. No other doctrine of the rapture accounts for and matches up to everything as perfectly. I pray for those who have allowed satan to snatch their blessed hope away from them.
@lionheartmerrill1069 Respectfully disagree. There is not a single verse telling us there is a pretribulation rapture, i.e., the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millennium.
@@BibleAnswerMan Who came up in Matthew 27:52 and 53? Where did they go after going to the holy city? Perhaps they got "raptured" 10 days before Pentecost with the Lord. 1611 AV of course.
There no such thing The people who are saved are people written in lambs book of life to be saved is to persevere true meaning most likely not a lot of people will that fact is only people sealed with Holy Spirt will survive
What do the Pre-Tribulation Rapture believers actually believe in? What are the marks to recognise the Pre-Tribulation Rapture theory? I ask this because you made mention of the reconstruction of a Third Temple and re-institution of the physical sacrificial system. Do believers in Pre-Tribulation Rapture believe in that?
We believe the promise from Jesus found in John 14:1-3. Matthew 25:1-13 is not a parable. Jesus will come for His bride before the seals are opened. Revelation 5 clearly shows the redeemed in Heaven watching the lamb open the seals.
"YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT." In my humble experience, there is much pride found in those coming against rapture. They often call names and get very angry. They insist those who believe in the pre tribulation rapture think they are better than others and stupid to think they can get into heaven without dying for Christ. They create fear and confusion. The truth is, millions have been saved throughout history without dying a horrible death for Christ. Why some had to, is for the Living God Jesus to decide. "What's it to you if I want him kept alive until I come back?" The truth is the saved Christian can and does suffer each day on this wicked dying planet. The truth is true belief Jesus Christ crucified and risen is more than enough to be saved. It is the ONLY requirement. The idea you must suffer and die for your salvation is blatantly blasphemous. Period. For all their anger and insistence they are right and we all must die to be worthy, the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and HIS Worthyness stands. In Jesus' Name. Amen.
Name the scholars, pastors, teachers, etc. that taught or preached on the (7) year pre-tribulation rapture before 1830... I have searched for over (3) years and can find NONE. John Wycliffe, Martin Luther, and Sir Issac Newton did NOT believe in this theory.
Amen. We are NOT appointed to WRATH at all. We are told to WATCH. We certainly don’t have to watch for the Second Coming. How silly. That day is easy to figure out. The only reason to watch is because it’s a PRETRIBULATION RAPTURE. I CANNOT WAIT!
Preterist are just as much dangerous as pre tribulation rapture and they are false. Pre millennium post tribulation rapture is historically and biblically true.
@@bcsprideLuk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Wow, this is new to me 😮. Definitely something I need look into! One thing that I’m confused about is that he kept mentioning that the belief in the rapture is that “Jews” will be left behind, but that is not correct. The belief is that ANYONE who hasn’t accepted Christ as Savior would be left behind...atheist, agnostic, new age believers, etc. Looks like it’s time for me to rethink it all and do some more research!
Yep, do some digging. I am not pretrib, but they do ask some interesting questions have gotten me to think about things, so I will give them that credit.
Hi Karin, Revelation is written to church not modern Israel, and is this last time we are until Christ returns again in One phase, Visible to all on earth Second Coming. There will be no second chance for Jews or Gentiles who don't receive Him in this urgent time. Much need for sincere evangelism by Word and Spirit.
*5 REASONS WHY YOU WILL GO TO HELL BECAUSE OF THIS VIDEO:* 1) *Because of your UNBELIEF.* The same sort of UNBELIEF IN GOD"S DELIVERING POWER that saw Israel not allowed into the Promised Land. That you your fate, as Hebrews 3-4 show, as it clearly shows you will be LEFT {OUT} OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN FOR THAT SAME {UNBELIEF} IN GOD'S DELIVERING POWER, which is His Rapture. You will share the same fate as Israel. But yours is worst. You will not be left out of a physical land, but spiriutal paradise. .... and don't lie to yourself about being "Christian" or "believing in Jesus" or "covered under His blood." ISRAEL was the "seed of promised" and "believed in Yahweh" more than you, and were "covered under the blood of the Passover Lamb and the sacrifices." Didn't save them. Wont save you, Gentile! 2) *Because Amos alrady condemns you," speaking a 'woe' against all who desire to see the Day of the Lord. No one escape a woe. No one. 3) *Because you SIN AGINST GOD!* You would have been better off being a murder, or rapist, or homosexual. Those things are just 'sin,' but all who SIN {{AGAINST}} GOD will be blot out of His Book, as God clearly told Moses. That is the product of your UNBELIEF. You are offensive. You sin directly against God's very Character. -calling Him weak -calling Him unfaithful -calling Him unjust -accusing Him of being an abusive husband -saying He will send DEMONS (locusts) upon His entire Church for 5 months! -spitting on the testimony of Abraham -spitting on the testimony of Job -mocking His deliverance of Lot who was "snatched away" -mocking the deliverance of Noah who was "lifted up" JUST. LIKE. ISREAL! Your unbelief is taking personally by Him, because it is OFFENSIVE to His Character and is SIN against Him! 4) Because you evil hypocrites distort every Scripture you touch, especially Matthew 24 and I Thess 4 ... not even knowing that Matthew 24 is a TWO FOLD QUESTION with TWO answers -Matthew 24v5-14: end time signs that the terminal generation Church looks for that lead up to the *RAPTURE* -Matthew 24v15-31: all things Jewish, and Jesus clearly has shifted His attention from the Church to the Jews who will be left behind! events that lead up to the *SECOND COMING!* Yeah ... you are that easily disproven. You distort many Scriptures, and as Peter say, to your own damnation! 5) Becuase, assuming you are a Post-Tribber, the EVIL SERVANT at the end of Matthew 24 has all 4 characteristics of a Post Tribber ... and it ends with you in Hellfire. Jesus even rightfully uses the word "hypocrite" instead of "sinner" ... cause you ARE fake Christians. Sinners against God's very character. Distorters of His Word. UNBELIEVERS> And what is the polar opposite of FAITH? *UNBELIEF!* 5 reasons why you are doomed. Now, you wanna go 5 more reasons!? Or do you want 5 reasons why there IS a Pre-Tribulation Rapture (I won't even include Matthew 24, cause I just explained it by refuting the ignorance about it)?
Part 1 - I will have to post this in two posts due to length. I apologize for that, but if we want to seek truth, we must be thorough in reconciling all of God's Word. “In religion, as in war and everything else, comfort is the one thing you cannot get by looking for it. If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end: if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth-only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin with and, in the end, despair.” C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity Truth = facts. The rapture is right where Paul, as a prophet, said it would be. He painted a neon sign and said, “Here it is,” and yet we still miss it. It is at the last trumpet, the seventh trumpet, right where he said it would be. For truth, let’s look at the facts. 1) The seven year period of time is never referred to in Scripture as “the tribulation.” Never. That is an appellation that has been applied by pre-tribbers to equate tribulation with God’s wrath. The Bible refers to it in the Book of Daniel as the 70th week out of 70 weeks. (A week being a seven year period). The only use of the word tribulation to this time is when Christ referred to a period of time during the second half of the 70th week, beginning with the abomination of desolation as the great tribulation. And He also says that this time of great tribulation will be cut short. How is the great tribulation cut short? The wholesale killing of those who will not take the mark will stop before the 1260 days are over, so that some of the elect will remain alive. The reign of the antichrist will continue, however. It will be shown what causes this stopping of killing. As will be seen, this allows for the trumpets to occur during the rest of that time. 2) Tribulation and wrath are not synonymous. Tribulation is the word “thlipsis” and means persecution. We ARE appointed to tribulation. John 16:33, Acts 14:22. The House of God (Christians) must undergo a fiery trial before the appearance of Christ. 1 Peter 4:12-13,17 “Beloved, think it not strange concerning the FIERY TRIAL (“peirasmon” a putting to the proof) which is to TRY YOU (put you to the proof) as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, WHEN HIS GLORY SHALL BE REVEALED, (at the Second Coming) ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. For the time is come that JUDGMENT MUST BEGIN AT THE HOUSE OF GOD: and if it FIRST BEGIN AT US, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?” God punished and tried Israel for their apostasy. He will also do so to the apostate church. (2Thess. 2:3 there will be a falling away [“apostasia”] from God’s truth) and Dan. 11:35 (purging). God will not persecute His enemies, He will simply destroy them, but His enemies have and always will persecute God’s children. Wrath on the other hand are the words “orge” or “thumos” and mean violent passion or an outburst of passionate wrath. We are not appointed to God’s wrath, but we are to expect Satan’s persecution. God tells us that the saints (in the New Testament, Christians are the saints) will be given over to the beast. Dan. 7:25, Rev. 13:7. Non Christians are not dying during the great trib. They have taken the mark and are fine. This is not God's wrath. The 5th seal is not God’s wrath, for the only ones dying are Christians and the martyrs ask God when He will begin to pour out His vengeance or wrath. He replies that they must wait first for the rest of the Christians who must be martyred as they were. The people on the sea of glass that come out of the great tribulation are those martyrs. Rev. 7:14. It is the worst holocaust in the history of the world. Dan. 12:1. They are the overcomers, those who obey God’s commandments and have the testimony of Jesus, who did not love their lives unto death, that Satan goes after. Rev. 12:11,17. Six out of the seven churches in Revelation are not promised protection. They are told to be overcomers. Only a remnant of the church of Philadephians who have kept the word of God's patience qualify to be protected and eventually raptured. They are kept from the "temptation" which means to be “put to the proof”. God is putting us to the proof by giving us a time of testing for the sake of purging the apostate church. Dan. 11:35. 3) The Day of the Lord is another name for God’s wrath. Joel and Acts tell us that there is a very specific sign that will occur BEFORE the Day of the Lord, or God’s wrath can begin, to warn us it is coming. “And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE that great and notable day of the Lord come.” These very unique signs (both the sun and moon go dark - moon turns red) occur at the same time. This describes a double eclipse which can only occur due to an outside celestial body that has come between the sun and the moon and earth, creating eclipses of both the sun and the moon simultaneously. This sign is said to occur BEFORE the Day of the Lord. It is an omen of the coming wrath of God. How far in advance it comes is not stated in Scripture. 4) This particular sign of the double eclipse is seen in Seal 6 of Revelation. In fact at that time, people recognize and shout for fear that the Day of the Lord is coming, because these signs herald its approach. This is not a statement from heaven that the Day of the Lord has begun, because Christ’s coming initiates the Day of the Lord, and He does not return until the end of the 70th week. It is a warning, though, that God’s wrath is definitely on its way. So God’s wrath does not include the seals. 5) In Matthew 24:29, Christ puts these same celestial signs after the great tribulation is cut short, putting God’s wrath after the great tribulation is over. Hence God’s wrath does not begin until after the great tribulation. 6) We are not appointed to wrath. 1 Thess. 5:9. As God’s wrath cannot begin until after these celestial signs, there is no reason to remove Christians before God’s wrath begins, for we are not exempt from persecution and martyrdom. Therefore we will be here through the great tribulation. Well, those who are alive and remain will be. The rest will be killed. 7) Paul gave the exact sequence of events in 2 Thess. 2:1-4. “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, (2nd Coming) AND (meaning they are together and in order) by OUR GATHERING TOGETHER UNTO HIM, (resurrection/rapture). [note the chronological order] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (also known as the Day of the Lord, but from a Christian’s point of view instead of the wicked’s point of view) is at hand. [This couples all three events together as happening at the same time. Christ’s Second Coming, the rapture followed by the Day of the Lord]. LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU (pre-tribbers have allowed themselves to be deceived even with this warning and the laying out of the chronology) by any means: for that day (What day? The Day of the Lord wherein Christ returns and resurrects/raptures the saints) shall not come, EXCEPT there come a falling away (apostasia - Gr. Meaning departure from the truth, not departure from a location) FIRST, (before any of the other stuff can happen) and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, (this is the abomination of desolation) shewing himself that he is God.” These verses were telling them that the Day of the Lord wherein Christ returns and raptures them could not be yet, for before that happens, there must be an apostasy in the Church and the antichrist declare himself to be God. This is clear and straightforward. Why do people distort it? 8) Christ must remain in heaven at the right hand of God until His foes are made His footstool. Acts 2:34-35. As long as Satan and the beast reign, His foes are not His footstool. They have 42 months from the abomination. Rev. 13:5. 9) Christ must remain in heaven until the restitution of all things (including the kingdoms of God being given to Christ). Acts. 3:21. As long as Satan is the prince and power of this world, there is no restitution. Satan has until the end of Daniel's 70th week. Christ cannot return until then. 10) Christ destroys the antichrist with the brightness of His coming. Thess. 2:8. That is His Second Coming at the end of the forty-two months. If Christ’s appearance destroys the reign of the antichrist, and the kingdoms of the world are restored to Christ’s control, it can only happen after the antichrist’s reign of 42 months, not before. Christ cannot return until the end of Daniel's 70th week. He cannot return before then, for His coming destroys the beast.
The wrath Paul talks about is not the Bowls. He may not have even known about those. No. He is talking in context about the wrath poured out on the wicked, who experience the Day of the Lord as a thief (see the context of 1 Thess. 5:1-3). They receive sudden destruction at the coming of Christ. See also 2 Thess. 1:6-8, which says the church receives rest from persecutions when Jesus comes and pours out wrath on the wicked.
There is a tribulation orchestrated by Satan thru the antichrist and then the wrath of God to avenge those who were killed or persecuted during the tribulation and other periods in life
The Holy Spirit completely changed my understanding of His second coming about 30 years ago. I don't go around advertising that I don't believe in a pre tribulation rapture, but only share it when He opens the door, tells me who to share the truth with, and He did just that about 30 minutes ago. Thank you for sharing this, it's something I'll forward t her as confirmation of my own words.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
It wasnt Holy Spirit, but a spirit of deception who stole your hope and in turn you pass along your lack of faith in God's promises of rescuing the righteous before pouring His wrath out on the wicked
@@jbsikes6841 these deceivers never have any content on their channel, nor do they share any Bible scriptures to prove their point. They can not since there are no clear verses that prove the pre trib rapture as being true. it is a lie people. 10 of the 12 apostles died for their faith.
There are many more who have died than 10. This proves nothing. The nature and character of God is to rescue the righteous before pouring out Hos wrath on the ungodly. This has nothing to do with persecution. This is why you dont get it. Also the rapture is not the second coming, which is His glorious appearing when every eye shall see him.
No truth in the man if he claims the early Church didn't preach, write and believe in the Doctrine of Eminence aka pre-trib Rapture. Genesis to Revelation HE has two separate plans being the "Time of the Gentiles be fulfilled; Lk. 21:24 then the 70th week of Daniel be consummated; Dan. 9:24-27. Pre-Trib verses: Isa. 19:19-21 Jn. 14:1-3 1st Thess. 4:14-18, 5:9 2nd Thess. 2:1-7 Rev. 2:22, 3:10, 6:11, 12:5, 12:7-12 Dan. 9:27 Jude 14 Zech. 14:15 Mat. 24:36-43, 25:1-13 1st Cor. 15:51-53
Totally agree. Christ showed me when I was 16 years old the end times and tribulation. I saw pastors cursing God's name, being attacked/blamed by their congregation for preaching pre-trib rapture. Bro Sadhu Sundar also said he used to preach pre-trib rapture but Jesus lead him to verses and corrected him. Also check out FAI's 4 reasons we don't believe in pre-trib rapture. I do not believe in pre-tribulation rapture and it's never mentioned in the Bible. We’re told that we will be persecuted and we must stand firm unto death in out believe in Christ and to overcome the devil so that we can receive the crown of life. We’re told not to accept the mark of the beast or worship him so why would we have to refuse if we’re raptured before that happens? The Bible also says that Christ won't return until the "Falling Away" happens first and Jesus asks, "will I really find faith on the earth in those days?" So if the falling away happens and there's no faith, who will be left to suddenly be raptured? Christ also said the dead in Christ would be raised first and then the living in Christ would be raised. If you read the Bible and note down the chain of events, you'll see that the rapture of the dead and then the living doesn't happen until well into the Tribulation and after true Christians suffer through persecution, deny satan's mark of the beast and be put in jail from refusing satan. What Christians will keep their faith if they lose everything and are put in jail? When tribulation truly comes and God's wrath begins to pour out, there will be major nation wide disasters such as CA earthquake and World War III will break out. This will cause the current Christians that didn't get raptured before tribulation to blame God and attack their pastors for lying to them about being raptured before suffering and they’ll all curse God’s name. This is the great falling away. If you read Revelation and get a notepad to note down the chain of events, you'll see when the rapture actually happens. Show me one verse using the Bible where it states that believers in Christ will be raptured before Tribulation. Even God's people had to trust God and be delivered out of pharaoh's hands while God destroyed him. Even the two witnesses will be killed in the street before we're raptured and they'll be resurrected to life after three and a half days causing great fear upon those that see it. Here's proof that there's no rapture until after the Falling Away and the Antichrist claims to be God and causes all to receive his mark: 2 Thessalonians 2 2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Proof that there won't be any faith in the earth by then: "I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall He find faith on the earth?" - Luke 18:8 Proof that we will go through Tribulation and be persecuted for believing in Christ: Matthew 10:17 "But beware of men, for they will hand you over to the courts and scourge you in their synagogues;" Matthew 24:9 “Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. Luke 21:12 “But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and will persecute you, delivering you to the synagogues and prisons, bringing you before kings and governors for My name’s sake." John 15:20 "Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also." John 16:2 "They will make you outcasts from the synagogue, but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God." 2 Timothy 3:12 "Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted." Revelation 2:10 "Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life." Revelation 3:5 5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who remain, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore, comfort one another with these words.
Your "proof texts" totally scramble passages as you apply them incorrectly. You use Mat 10:17... in Mat 10 Jesus instructs His disciples to NOT GO into the way of the Gentiles but to go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And of course, in the passage people have to "endure to the end to be saved." But you would have people believe the church is being discussed. No, as Jesus said, it's the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL Who will be witnesses to ISRAEL during the great tribulation? The 144,000 JEWS from the 12 tribes of Israel witnessing to other Jews. The tribulation witnesses are comprised of 144,000 male Jewish virgins, NOT the church. You mention Rev 2:10 where the Christians have to deal with tribulation for TEN DAYS. That isn't the great tribulation. You mention other Rev verses - but they are all PRIOR to the beginning of the great tribulation - they have nothing to do with it. In John 4 John is caught up to the third heaven - picturing the rapture of the church - and during the great tribulation in Revelation the church isn't even mentioned. The church is mentioned again in Rev 19 AFTER the great tribulation is over. You mention John 16:2. Christians don't go to synagogues, JEWS go to synagogues. Christians attend local CHURCHES. You use Mat 24 - and here we see again the requirement to endure to the end to be saved - it's not about the church. And in many cases, you cite verses that mention persecution - as if the term was synonymous with the time of great tribulation, which is the time of Jacob's trouble. Persecution =/= great tribulation. Christians have been persecuted since day one and they will continue to be persecuted. This ongoing persecution of individual Christians throughout the centuries has absolutely nothing to do with God pouring out wrath on Israel during the time of Jacob's trouble.
1) *Because of your UNBELIEF.* The same sort of UNBELIEF IN GOD"S DELIVERING POWER that saw Israel not allowed into the Promised Land. That you your fate, as Hebrews 3-4 show, as it clearly shows you will be LEFT {OUT} OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN FOR THAT SAME {UNBELIEF} IN GOD'S DELIVERING POWER, which is His Rapture. You will share the same fate as Israel. But yours is worst. You will not be left out of a physical land, but spiriutal paradise. .... and don't lie to yourself about being "Christian" or "believing in Jesus" or "covered under His blood." ISRAEL was the "seed of promised" and "believed in Yahweh" more than you, and were "covered under the blood of the Passover Lamb and the sacrifices." Didn't save them. Wont save you, Gentile! 2) *Because Amos already condemns you," speaking a 'woe' against all who desire to see the Day of the Lord. No one escape a woe. No one. 3) *Because you SIN AGINST GOD!* You would have been better off being a murder, or rapist, or homosexual. Those things are just 'sin,' but all who SIN {{AGAINST}} GOD will be blot out of His Book, as God clearly told Moses. That is the product of your UNBELIEF. You are offensive. You sin directly against God's very Character. -calling Him weak -calling Him unfaithful -calling Him unjust -accusing Him of being an abusive husband -saying He will send DEMONS (locusts) upon His entire Church for 5 months! -spitting on the testimony of Abraham -spitting on the testimony of Job -mocking His deliverance of Lot who was "snatched away" -mocking the deliverance of Noah who was "lifted up" JUST. LIKE. ISREAL! Your unbelief is taking personally by Him, because it is OFFENSIVE to His Character and is SIN against Him! 4) *Because you evil hypocrites distort every Scripture you touch,* especially Matthew 24 and I Thess 4 ... not even knowing that Matthew 24 is a TWO FOLD QUESTION with TWO answers -Matthew 24v5-14: end time signs that the terminal generation Church looks for that lead up to the *RAPTURE* -Matthew 24v15-31: all things Jewish, and Jesus clearly has shifted His attention from the Church to the Jews who will be left behind! events that lead up to the *SECOND COMING!* Yeah ... you are that easily disproven. You distort many Scriptures, and as Peter say, to your own damnation! 5) *Because, assuming you are a Post-Tribber, the EVIL SERVANT at the end of Matthew 24 has all 4 characteristics of a Post Tribber* ... and it ends with you in Hellfire. Jesus even rightfully uses the word "hypocrite" instead of "sinner" ... cause you ARE fake Christians. Sinners against God's very character. Distorters of His Word. UNBELIEVERS> And what is the polar opposite of FAITH? *UNBELIEF!* You can add blaspheming the Holy Spirit and you claim your idiot 'dream' was FROM God. Using the Lord's name in vain? What a foolish person you are.
This the reason, why I don't attend any church anymore: they all claim to abide by the Bible, but interpret it in various ways. So I stay home and study the Bible myself after praying for wisdom and discernment and I shall continue to do so, because it helps me stay close to Yeshua and keeps me from getting confused.
@@DonCornelius366 You are a spiteful Christian . This is a secondary issue and your condemnation is uncalled for ! ! You are also wrong ... I might add ! !
Revelation 22:20-21 [20] He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! [21] The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.
Why I believe the rapture and return are two seperate events. I've really studied this, comparing the pre and post tribulation position with just the word alone. Could I humbly suggest, Compare Jesus Glorious return at the end of the apocalyptic seals, bowls, Trumpets, third of all life destroyed, wormwood, plagues, boils etc etc with Jesus saying "just as in the times of Noah and Lot" . Normal everyday life! Does that sound like the end of Armageddon? Clearly He is speaking of two events. There's no way these two, the rapture, as a" thief in the night" and His glorious return are the same. People definitely won't be giving and taking in marriage and trading as normal on the day of His return. Boot fares and stag parties will be the LAST thing on thier minds. They'll be struggling to survive. Jesus said, "that time will be cut short for the elects sake or else no one would survive it." (The elect are the 144,000 Jews and thier converts saved through the tribulation which is called "Jacobs trouble") The church is raptured as described in Thessalonians and Corinthians then the Antichrist is revealed who will sign THE agreement (not Trump's!) then 3 1/2 years in he will desecrate the new built temple which will bring in terrible trouble leading to Armageddon at the end of which is the Lords glorious return and sweeping away all evel forever. I hope this helps. I was doubtful too but decided to really study the scriptures. God bless.
The parousia of the Lord includes His "presence" and His physical return. In other words the scope of the word parousia (often rendered "coming") is wider than just His physical return to the earth.
I've been studying as well ibwas in agreement with this until I heard the 17 hour bible study from Andy Woods. Very good arguement just check it out :) also feel free to get back to me and let me know
@@stringerchick3650 I'll check this out indeed. I think it's essential to get it right or we're setting the church up for trouble. Believe me I want a pre rapture but I also am mindful of many who believe in mid or post rapture. Having done many hours study on this and considered the timing and the Greek words used in Thessalonians etc I am fairly sure of a pre rapture. As I read post trib arguments I find myself thinking, "yes but what about....?" Then I recheck what I've studied lol. I'm going through a lengthy post trib position that I've downloaded atm. So far what I've found is, the reasoning is plausible but when cross checking I find certain scriptures are ignored. You can't do that with the word of God. It has to be 'rightly divided'. Any way. I'll check it out. 17 hours?! Phew.
@@stringerchick3650 I've checked out Andy Woods and indeed he explains the biblically based reasons for pre trib very well indeed. I have now completed an examination of the post trib position as taught by Jeffrey A. Mott. A quick perusal of this work appears to present a very powerful argument for a post tribulation rapture. I'm sure you can access this for yourself on the net. However on deeper investigation I found that it is on very weak ground. I could list everything here but take to long. However I will deal with just a couple. Mott uses the 'type' of Egypt to show that 'believers' will have to go through the full tribulation as the children of Israel did before Moses (The Lord) finally led them out in a kind of 'rapture' before the Egyptians were judged in the Red sea. This, at first seems powerful but (comparing scripture with scripture and) by rightly dividing the word of God this is revealed as completely wrong. Jesus Himself gave us two 'types' as examples: The days of Noah and The days of Sodom and Gomorrah where the believers were clearly absolutely removed before judgement, before tribulatuon. So I'm wondering why Mott used a type that Jesus did not? I also noticed that Mott ignores scriptures that indicate the tribulatuon is something specifically designated to the Jews. Jeremiah 30 clearly states this is the time of JACOBS trouble. As I said, there is much more. Indeed, every single point he proposes fails to rightly divide the word of God on the matter. So, my conclusion from my own studies and diligently studying the post trib position I am thoroughly convinced the rapture will no be at any time, and definitely BEFORE the tribulation.
Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. Those are the pre-trib rapture verses, which if you look at it in its context the only one who goes up is John and he does that in the Spirit, his body is still on the Isle of Patmos. The Book of Rev comes with two very stern warnings. Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. By saying that Rev 4:1-2 is the rapture of the church when it does not say any such thing, places those who make that claim under the penalty of Rev 22:18-19 The jw's do the same thing with the Book of Revelation, they claim their top people are the 144,000 and by doing so also place themselves under those two penalties. And there are those who will stubbornly defend Rev 4:1-2 as the rapture, 1Sa 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king. Psa 78:8 And might not be as their fathers, a stubborn and rebellious generation; a generation that set not their heart aright, and whose spirit was not stedfast with God. The cultists will defend their cults, the Mormons, the sda's, and the jw's all defending their dogmas, that is the power of a leader in a church when the people have no reason to think anything is amiss and they drink the false gospel kool-aid as if it was the gospel truth. that is why we are to do our own due diligence!!! Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. 1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. 1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? 2Co 13:6 But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates. Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 2Ti 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 2Ti 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: We have the availability of the Holy Ghost to guide us into ALL TRUTH, and being guided into all truth so that anything we hold that is not of the truth will be exposed by the Truth that the Holy Ghost will guide us into. Truth Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
“God has not appointed us to wrath” and “then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air” are true. However, using these to support a pre trib rapture is imposing our own meaning onto the text.
@@Alvinthechristian t the twelve patriarchs of Israel and the twelve apostles, who represent the redeemed of both covenants now united in Christ. In Rev. 5:8-9 they do seem to speak on behalf of the redeemed. Also in support for the idea that the 24 elders depict the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 apostles can be seen by the fact that the names of both groups are displayed on the gates and foundations of the New Jerusalem (Revelation 21:12, 14).
No one wants to hear it because all we have is Evangelical "Preachers" bombarding the airwaves and spreading the false teachings of Dispensationalism... In short, they've been brainwashed into believing that that teaching IS THE BIBLE And therefore if you don't agree, you are a sinner and a Non-believer.
GREAT TRUTH. THANK YOU. WHEN JESUS PRAYED HIS PRAYER FOR THE BELIEVERS (church) JOHN 17: HE SPEAKS TO THE BELIEVERS THEN, AND THOSE WHO WILL ALSO BELIEVE IN HIM IN THE FUTURE. AND THIS VERSE STANDS OUT FOR ME. I am not praying that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. John 17:15 CSB OH, HOW CAN WE MISS HIS PRAYER FOR THE CHURCH. "DO NOT TAKE THEM OUT OF THE WORLD. BUT PROTECT THEM FROM THE EVIL one. THANK YOU JESUS, YOUR WORD IS TRUTH. THANK YOU FOR THIS TEACHING
Isaiah 26:21 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
@B L Learn the meaning of the word (just) according to the holy scriptures: Hosea 14:9 Who is wise, and he shall understand these things? prudent, and he shall know them? for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein.
I use to lean toward the Pre tribulation rapture. It's only in the last year or so I've moved away from the view and believe we (all believers and non believers) will go through the tribulation. Who are Christians to believe we are going to be spared the troubles that the tribulation will bring?
With all due resect, the title of this video is: "5 Reasons the Pre-Tribulational Theory is Unbiblical." But reason number four says: "4. No Biblical reason for second chance of salvation after the second coming." Aren't these two points separate arguments? I am serious. Then Mr Hanegraff does not give too much credence to the 7th week of Daniel.
Hank is alluding to one of the logical implications and difficulties with premillennialism (whether the dispensational or historic varieties). Namely, after the Lord’s Second Coming during the millennium both resurrected saints (those raised at the beginning of the millennium) will live alongside children born in the millennium, presumably non-resurrected people both sinners and saints. Plus many of them will stand with Satan, after the releasing, and wage a revolution against the throne of Jesus Christ. Moreover, premillennialism implies the millennial saints will have a chance for salvation after Jesus returns and after Satan’s rebelling ending the millennium. Hank addresses the 70 weeks of Daniel in this article… www.equip.org/article/daniel-prophesy-seven-year-great-tribulation/
The Christians fled Judea to the mountains north and east of the Jordan in Pella, following Jesus’ instructions for them to flee when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies, and escaped the great tribulation. Remember that Jesus was addressing those living at that time, that “this generation” would see happening. The destruction of the city and the temple happened just as he said it would.
Jeffrey Osburn - I disagree, they asked Him to reveal the signs of "the end", and that wasn't. Besides, they never witnessed many saying, here is Christ, etc. They never had to endure to the end, that wasn't the worst time in history, and when that was over, He didn't came back for them.
Todd Wood You’ll have to disagree with the biblical and historical evidence, not with me. The “end” was not the “end of the world” (kosmos) as translated in the KJV, but the “end of the age” (aionos). The end of the Mosaic system of animal sacrifice and the political-religious state did happen when the city and temple were destroyed, over one million Jews killed, tens of thousands taken captive as slaves, and most others in exile. Josephus, the Jewish eyewitness historian of this desolation, records the rise of scores of false messiahs and false prophets. The Book of Acts records a few as well. These are well documented historical facts. The Christians left Judea and went north to the mountainous region of Perea when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by Roman legions, and so escaped the horrible time of tribulation from 66-73 AD. Jesus returned to judge apostate Israel just as God personally poured out his wrath on their ancestors during the fall of Jerusalem and destruction of Solomon’s temple by the Babylonian army in 586 BC. And the temple was destroyed in 70 AD on the same day of the Jewish calendar, the 9th of Av. Remember, the disciples question was in response to Jesus pronouncing judgement on the Pharisees in the preceding passages to the Olivet Discourse, when he said “your house is left unto you desolate.” They we’re walking away from the temple when the disciples drew Jesus’ attention to the great and expensive stones, to which Jesus replied, “not one stone will be left on top of the other.” This prophecy was fulfilled to the letter. That’s what the biblical and historical record says, not my opinion. It’s a great confirmation of the deity of Christ and the reliability of the Bible.
Jeffrey Osburn - and the sun was darkened, and the moon didn't give light, and the stars fell from heaven, and every eye saw Him,and all the tribes of earth mourned, and He gathered His elect?
Hi Hank, I have been listening lately to your ministry on certain subjects and I have to say I have/am being blessed, I was once a Universal Reconciliationist and Hyper-Dispensationalist until I had my eyes open, appreciate you greatly brother, thank you.
I am SO glad someone finally clarified this. I get tired of Christian Stock Footage montage channels trying to justify a pre-tribulation rapture. Thank you very much for this video. God Bless you, my friend.
The pre--tribulation rapture belief that you do not believe in is not the pre-tribulational rapture that some of us believe in. Hank's objections are much aimed at a strawman. Ie. the "Left Behind" series of pop theology.
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it.
Jacques Wilmore And which of the Church Fathers held this view, 0. So, Christians for 1800 years missed it, this theological construct, in the Greek, the Latin, the Syriac? Isn’t it more important to be ready for when Christ returns, and to focus on practical Christian ministries unto the least of these, then to dwell on the How he returns.
@@matthewvanmatre5137 What is "this view" to which you refer ? Partial rapture ? If that is the question, isn't it the word of God which should decide what we should believe above creeds or checklist of "Church Fathers"? They had varying degrees and shifting degrees of understanding, for which I don't think they should be blamed for some deficiency at times. So Scripture rules my belief over and above the statistics of Church Fathers' insights (which though are not to be despised). Lastly, OF COURSE our Christian daily living is the best preparation. No debate there. However His coming and our living are inextricably linked together. "Expecting AND HASTENING the coming of the Lord "(2 Pet. 3:12).
Jacques Wilmore And that is my point, in that you think you see something in the text that suggests any type of rapture but somehow the greatest minds of Christendom missed it. I’m just of the thought that their understanding of Greek, Hebrew, and Syriac Scriptures is far superior to yours.
@@matthewvanmatre5137 An expert on writings of church fathers I am not. However, Jesus Himself did not "miss" a catching away of watching, vigilant, disciples at His parousia. Ie . "Remember Lot's wife. Whoever seeks to preserve his soul-life will loss it, and whoever losses it will preserve it alive. I tell you, in that night there will be two on one bed; the one will be taken and the other will be left. There will be two women grinding together; one will be taken but the other will be left. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left." (See Luke 17:32-38) Apparently, Jesus as recorded by Luke did not "miss" the teaching. See also Matthew 24:37-44. He expects wise disciples will live and walk moment by moment as if His sudden arrival unexpectedly will reward their vigilance. Am I right? "
15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. Rev. 13:15 4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev.20:4 9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” 11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters,[e] were killed just as they had been.Rev 6:9-11 Why would God forsake us to the wrath of the antichrist only to be killed? Do you look forward to enter the great tribulation? And why would God forsake us to the authority of the antichrist only to be killed in such a brutal way. And what about those who died in Christ prior to the tribulation who didn't have to go in such wrath?
@@kato1400 Maybe you should look at the Fifth Seal one more time. The souls under the Altar cry out for vengeance against those who killed them. Clearly, they are not there because they are suffering the wrath of God because they missed the rapture. They gave their lives as a testimony (which is what the word martyr means.) There have been Christians in history, and there still are those today, who have suffered horribly for the word of God. God has not forsaken them. He will raise them up at the last day to receive their reward. Do I look forward to the Great Tribulation? Not really, but like Paul I long to partake in the fellowship of Christ's suffering, becoming like Him in His death, so as to somehow attain the resurrection.
@@toddott633 Every christian martyr died a horrific death. Christ was no exception. Do you think you will die a simple death? Heck no! The beast will find not only you but your whole family, torture your kids and your wife to force you to receive the mark and bow to the image. You refuse, they get killed, you get tortured and eventually everyone goes to the guillotine.....all on live tv! "For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." Jeremiah 29:11 There is no hope in the GREAT TRIBULATION. Only a life of misery!
Your teaching is right in line with the pope, seventh day Adventist, and j w’s…all reject the gospel Paul preached 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and are ready to “ endure to the end “ as Jesus told a tax collector, a devil, and 10 fishermen….. are you saved? How did you get saved?
We will go through tribulation. But saved from on earth judgment. We will be tested. No free entry. God knows our hearts. I do not base my faith on the end times. It's just interesting all the different views. Let the Holy Spirit guide you. Blessings
The free entry is Jesus Christ crucified for us. His death and being risen is either enough or it is not. That is it. There have been millions saved throughout history that did not suffer some horrible death. Saying we must suffer and or die for Christ is saying what He did was not enough for "entry." Blasphemy. May you be guided and given wisdom from His Holy Spirit. In Jesus' Name.
I used to go back and forth on this. Underneath I always assumed we would go through the Tribulation, but I had to admit that sometimes I would read some arguments for pre-trib and think they had really good points, but then see others for post trib. It wasn't until studying something completely different that made the Truth hit me right in the face. You can NEVER let an interpreted or extrapolated meaning of a scripture override plainly stated scripture. That's when I realized there was not ONE verse that plainly stated a pre-trib rapture. EVERY one of them required you to assume a parallel meaning to a scripture or extrapolate it to something else to SUGGEST the Pre-trib doctrine. Again, many of them were certainly reasonable and rational arguments, but they were all based on assumed meaning that wasn't actually stated. However, there are verses that spell out quite clearly when the rapture takes place. 1Th 4:16-17 "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord." So, from this we KNOW the dead in Christ are raised FIRST, THEN we who are alive and remain will be caught up, and a Trumpet of God is noted as well. 1Co 15:52 "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed." This gives a little further clarification, it's at the LAST Trumpet. Now there are 7 Trumpets mentioned in Revelation. Now that doesn't mean there might not be other trumpets after that, that aren't mentioned, but one thing for sure, by definition, the last Trumpet CAN'T be before that 7th Trumpet sounds. Finally, the OTHER milestone marker is the dead being raised first. Lo and behold Revelation mentions the FIRST Resurrection, so obviously there aren't any other resurrections prior to that one, that could precede the rapture. So the rapture HAS to take place after this resurrection mentioned in Rev. Rev 20:4-5: "Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection." Note it specifically refers to this as the FIRST resurrection and it specifically mentions those who didn't worship the beast or accept the mark. So CLEARLY this can't happen before the Antichrist is revealed and the persecution of those who won't accept the mark. It literally couldn't be any clearer. Meanwhile not ONE verse says we are raptured before the great tribulation. Sadly, so many Christians are so used to preachers and prophets making WILD extrapolations of scriptural doctrine, they've literally lost the ability to tell the difference between something that's ACTUALLY stated and the meaning they are reading into it! I literally had some woman respond with the scripture about the time of Jacob's trouble. She actually thought THAT scripture PROVED pre-trib!
Hank unfortunately you have left a lot of holes in your explanation of debunking the Pre-Trib rapture theory. You need to go into more depth in your video’s instead of peddling your books for profit. It’s sad to see Christian leaders are more worried about selling there books than getting the Word out.
@@harveynailbanger The wheat and the tares has nothing to do with the rapture. No one is separated to Judgement in the rapture. The rapture is a blessed time for born again believers. Nobody burned up here no smoke and no fire I still believe Jesus and the pre trib rapture.
Hank is wrong. I will always trust God over man. We, the church the body of Christ WILL BE “raptured” taken up BEFORE the wrath to come. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 kjv For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 ¶ For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
@RUSS COLLINS - The Lord keeping the church at Philadelphia is far from a definitive proof for a pretribulation rapture. God could have kept them from their tribulation without having to remove them from the Earth in a secret catching away.
@@BibleAnswerMan He said He will keep them from the hour of trial that comes upon the whole world. This “hour of trial” is the great tribulation; not their tribulation. It comes upon the whole world meaning the great tribulation.
the Greek word is tereo ek, which means keep from or out of; not preserve while in or keep through. So Revelation 3:10 means the Lord will take the Church out of the great tribulation.
I believe you have to finish reading the rest of the scriptures to understand what that means. When you read the Bible you have to make sure you finish reading the paragraph. Revelation 3:10-12 NLT [10] “Because you have obeyed my command to persevere, I will protect you from the great time of testing that will come upon the whole world to test those who belong to this world. [11] I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take away your crown. [12] All who are victorious will become pillars in the Temple of my God, and they will never have to leave it. And I will write on them the name of my God, and they will be citizens in the city of my God-the new Jerusalem that comes down from heaven from my God. And I will also write on them my new name. So who did he write his name on? Revelation 14:1 NLT [1] Then I saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him were 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. We are told we're all the bride but we're not. Read Revelation 21 and you will find out who the Bride is. Notice in the Bible God has always use the Jewish people to fulfilled his prophecy.
That was so moving. As a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary, I've always questioned the biblical validity of Dispensationalism. Never could find coherent support for an imagined distinction between Israel and The Church.
Hank has started a new video series on Eschatology of more than 12 videos that are being released over the next couple of months. We will release 2 videos a week in this series. Here is the first one that we released yesterday --> ua-cam.com/video/tAwcv2djHxo/v-deo.html
@@artcarlson3581 I do not feel sorry for Dallas Theological Cemetery they are deceivers who the Lord shall deal with. Check into the life of Scofield and you will see the con artist, liar and deceiver.
@@colindavis1496 when I listened to Hank on FM radio every day I had all this down pat, but it's becoming foggy now. Hanks book the apocalypse code explains it all and it is a fantastic read.
@@richardt875...It's actually pretty scary to realize the enormous chasm in interpretation ranging from Hank's preterist view and the ever so dominant pre dispensationalist view amongst the majority of teachers, I find the lack of overall consensus to be rather disheartening as I attempt to nail down which is correct. John MacArthur whom I respect as a Bible teacher takes the pre dispensationalist perspective, I'm not sure who to believe...!
@@colindavis1496 every preacher seems to have a different view on Revelation as a whole. I prefer Hanks explanation, because it offers more proof that Jesus is who he says he is.
@@colindavis1496 We know from Jesus Himself that the great tribulation is coming, but not when. I believe the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth after that period is well established in scripture. So, whether the church is raptured before or mid tribulation is important, but not crucial to a saved member of His church today. It makes little sense to me that a "post" tribulation rapture would be correct. We (His Bride) will reign with Christ on earth for that thousand years, not spend eternity in heaven OFF the earth, as some anti rapturists argue. The Old Testament is full of types and pictures of various sorts. Enoch's rapture (translation) into heaven is well established, and it took place before the flood of Noah destroyed the earth ( a type of the tribulation). Also, the church of Christ is HIs bride. In Jewish culture of the day, once betrothed (legally married at that time), the groom and bride remained apart for an extended period. Then the Husband would return and take His wife back, followed by the wedding feast. There are some answers to this gentleman's objections to the rapture doctrine, but I am not a scholar by any stretch. I am confident in a pre tribulation rapture of the church, and all we can do is remain faithful until our Lord returns, in whatever way that is manifested. God Bless
Amen!..Excellent movie. It explains everything about the soon to be rapture. We are looking for our Lord Jesus Christ to rapture the saved believers so He can deal with the jews and show the King of Kings has already come, died on the cross and arose from the dead!.. rapture ready!
that is not how to study the word. By looking back and only taking that as the fullness of the truth I am not saying you do that. i am saying. then we have missed it that turns it into doctrines of man or traditions of man. The Bible explains the bible . if we go back and see Galilean culture, it might explain the text . but if it does not line up with the God-breathed word of God or contradicts the word the word stands true , it has to line up with the word I think you would agree
@@christym2121the producers of the movie used the scriptures, culture and customs to explain beautifully. God is not going to force anyone to adhere to the doctrine of imminence, very often through scripture we are told time and time again "watch and wait," "watch and wait" it's very important. But if God planned for you to go through the tribulation why would he tell you to "watch and wait"? There would be nothing to watch and wait for, nothing you could do anyway, you would just arrive at the culmination point, where all things had run their course. There would be absolutely no need to "watch and wait." He would have said just hang on. He provides a way of escape. Watch and wait, he appears the second time only to those who are watching and waiting. Hebrews 9:28. He also says "pray you are worthy to escape." You can't be worthy of something you don't believe in. Proverbs 22:3 says the prudent man foresees evil and hides himself but the simple pass on and are punished.
I have been looking for and have not yet found your explanation of what Paul Is telling us in 1 Thessalonians Chapter 4. Why should we be comforting each other as Christians with this extraordinary chapter in this epistle?
@philthephlier1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is an encouragement. Despite the fact that some Christians have died (v. 13). Christ died, rose again, and ascended to heaven, and we can be assured that Christ will return with the believers who passed away, btw Christ = God (v. 14). There will be those alive at the time Christ’s returns (v.15). The dead in Christ rise first then those who are alive will meet Christ (vv. 16-17). No pretribulation rapture mentioned. No 7-year tribulation mentioned.
Be encouraged that you’ll face the wrath of God and face the anti Christ 🤔 don’t seem to go too good with scripture, it’ll be like the days of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah, he will remove his people first, it’s Bible 👌
For a believer who has not done his own search of the truth from the Word of God, it is easy to believe in everything this man argues against pre- tribulation rapture.
I can not believe this is Hank Hanegraaff speaking. I never would have believed 20 years ago or now he could be so utterly deceived. The fact that he would believe God would make his church the bride of Christ suffer the tribulation is unbelievable . . .
@richardg9734 Well, the Scriptures teach the Christian experiences tribulation, and Hank is affirming the authority of the Bible. 33 These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” (John 16:33) 5 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us. (Rom. 5:1-4). 2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. 4 But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing. (James 1:2) 12 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; 13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ’s sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy. 14 If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people’s matters. 16 Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter. (1 Peter 4:12-16). 1 Thessalonians 5:8-9 never tells us that we are going to be taken out of the fight before the fight gets going, but we put on the armor and we are not destined to wrath.
@josenunez8952 Hank is skeptical about the accuracy of the Margaret MacDonald vision being the origin of the pretribulation rapture doctrine story. This is explained in the Apocalypse Code. www.equip.org/product/the-apocalypse-code-paperback/
Matthew 24:37 - But as the days of Noe (Noah) were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Mat 24:38 - For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, Mat 24:39 - And knew not until the flood came, and took (WHO?) them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (the WICKED WERE TAKEN) Mat 24:40 - Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Mat 24:41 - Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Mat 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. The WICKED were TAKEN and Noah was LEFT BEHIND at the end of the flood. Luke 17:26 - And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. The WICKED were TAKEN in the flood and Noah was LEFT BEHIND after the flood was over.
as in the Days of Noah is more for the sudden total destruction happening., that they knew not until it happened. It is a good example to see Noah as a type of Israel a preserved remnant in the Great Tribulation Where they were protected thru the Great tribulation The Church is raptured removed from the entire time of the Tribulation and wrath. We believers see none of the Great Tribulation.
@@artcarlson3581 the antichrists are not Israel, nor Judah 1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.) 1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah? SATAN? 1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha. DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
One man, Enoch, was translated for he did not see death before the great flood. 8 souls were saved by water during the great flood. So likewise shall be in the generation of the day of the Lord. There will be more souls converted during the great tribulation than those who are delivered before it, as in that blessed hope.
IMO, the disappointment of no pre-trib rapture happening will cause the great falling away of the faith, midway through the 7-yr treaty. These disappointed "Christians" will be the first to take the Mark of the Beast, so they can survive, because their minds weren't prepared for the persecutions.
I have thought the same about the "great falling away". If they aren't "raptured" before it gets messy, they will turn their backs on Christ claiming that He isn't coming.
Sad, but true! That's why studying His Word is so important, rather than following man! I pray a lot more people will read your comment and consider this!
Send this guy to a seminary please. How can you be so wrong on so many points? Gabriel tells Daniel that the 70 weeks are decreed for “your people” (Israel)…which includes the 70th week. It is not decreed for the church. The church didn’t exist yet. The entire point of the 7 year tribulation is to get Israel to repent and call on Jesus’ name, which they will, and then he will return in his second coming.
Those who are "looking for him" will go. Hebrews 9:28 If you're thinking he's not coming back till after the tribulation you're not looking for him. Proverbs 22:3 a prudent man foresees evil and hides himself, the simple pass on and are punished. Luke 21:36 pray you are counted worthy to escape 1 Corinthians 10:13 he provides a way of escape.
MAY GOD IN HEAVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you, good Sir, for getting the truth out about this deception. Blows my mind how all the churches in this wicked world today can not agree on anything our Lord tried to teach us, but they all accept, love, and teach the biggest damnable lie ever devised by man. So many will say in their heart my lord delays his coming, and will begin to smite his brother, once all Hell is upon the earth and still no rapture, it creates the great falling away I believe. God bless you and this paramount work for these final days of the age.
This deception was devised by Satan, not man, so that those who believe it as truth will be disappointed and disillusioned when it (the Rapture) doesn't happen and they deny the Faith. Another reason why God might allow the Church to go thru the Great Tribulation is so those remaining Christians who are alive and remain faithful to Him will be able to proclaim the Gospel to those under His judgement for sin (not having trusted in Christ's atonement for their sin). If He removed Christians from the earth, who would remain to proclaim the Good News to the lost?
Hank's god is not the Lord Jesus because Jesus is not one of 3 persons. Jesus is the blessed and only wise God, the Saviour, the only Potentate, the everlasting Father, the Comforter, the Almighty and there is no other god. Hank shall die in his sins for not knowing Jesus is the I AM, the Father. Read John 8 lines 24 through 27.
@@zerosparky9510 I am commanded to mark those likened to Hank according to the holy scriptures. Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
@@zerosparky9510 Job 6:25 How forcible are right words! but what doth your arguing reprove? Job 40:2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.
The idea of a Pre-trib rapture was not a recent "invention" by J.N. Derby; I have listed the dates and names of when it was taught and by whom:- Shepherd of Hermes.........................A.D. 150 Irenaeus.............................................. " 170 Hyppolytus.......................................... " 210 Victorinus............................................ " 240 Cyprian................................................ " 250 Ephriam the Syrian............................. " 373 Papias................................................. " 60 - 130 Justin Martyr...................................... " 110 - 195 Tertullian............................................. " 145 - 220 Lactantius........................................... " 260 - 330
Hank, thank you always for staying the course on these pre tribulation falsehoods. It is so sad that so many go to a seminary and are indoctrinated toward this and they never rightly divide the truth on their own.
@@JesusChristismySavior-Julieit actually all started with the first century believers.. that's just a fable that Darby and Scofield started it.. but the bible didn't go into production til the 16th century.. look up Clement of rome(35-101).. Ignatius of Antioch who died in 110.. if your gonna research it.. don't half ass it.. search it out all the way😊
I was never keen on going in the rapture and leave my unsaved children behind anyway. I kept telling the Lord, not now Lord, not now. Those who think they are ready, coul have a very rude awakening when they are not taken. We are supposed to concentrate on the losts, not on escaping.
Jesus prophesied post tribulation rapture! Tell Jesus he is wrong, I dare you. You're not that crazy! Read Matthew 24.29,30 31 take him at his word. Jesus said my sheep hear my voice and another they will not follow! Jesus teaching and prophecy is his VOICE, right? Jesus never mentioned pretribulation Rapture!
Refuses to elaborate Leaves Atleast drop a verse to make your point. Children have better arguments when they call each other ugly, you at least have something to focus on.
@@Titus2_13 Paul describes a post tribulation rapture. 1st Corinthians 15.51,2 WE ALL ARE CHANGED AT THE LAST TRUMP!❤ jew and gentile alike! The Trump blown in Matthew 24.29,30 31 is obviously the last Trump 🙄
@glenpersinger3390 just because it's the LAST trump doesn't mean AFTER tribulation. There are trumps seals and bowls. They all don't end after the tribulation
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, Matthew 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Matthew 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Matthew 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Unbiblical? That’s the Bible isn’t? It will be done as your faith said Jesus. You will find it less funny when the rapture will happen and you will be left behind….
@alexandre9328 Read carefully the verses you shared. None of them explicitly tell us about a pretribulation rapture, i.e., the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millennium.
@@BibleAnswerMan "1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night." The trumpets of 1 Thessaloniciens 4.16-17 and 1 Corinthians 15.51-52 will be heard only by true Christian believer. They’ll meet the Lord in the air because in their glorified body, they will fly. This appearance won’t be public, the whole humanity won’t be there in the air to see it. The public appearance is at the end of the tribulation at the Armageddon war in Israel.
@@brianguglielmin2873 No Bible verse to support the assumption that the Church escapes the Great Tribulation. Creating an analogy using Noah's Ark isn't Biblical proof. "Saints" are mentioned going through the Great Tribulation (Rev. 13:10; 14:12), which is just another word for believers in Jesus Christ/God. The Church still escapes this physical life when Jesus returns on the Last Day.
Again, let's get back to the subject of when Christ will withdraw the Church. It is lawful that in the current situation, Christians ask themselves: Are we going to go through the Tribulation? How do you explain Christians suffering now? And how to understand these texts: "And she was allowed to make war on the saints, and to overcome them ... And I saw that the woman was drunk on the blood of the saints, and on the blood of the witnesses of Jesus" Rev. 13: 7 and 17: 6. So how to sustain pre-tribulationism? If passages like Paul Ap.3: 10 and Luke 21:36 do not comfort you ... Then I want to bring Jesus' own words ... "you are Peter, and on this stone I will build my church, and the doors from hell will not prevail against her; " Mt 16:18. Christ's statement is that the Evil One will never, never be able to extinguish the Church or exterminate it completely, so it is clear that she will not participate in this period when the Antichrist will be allowed to win everything and everyone. If it is impossible for Christ to lie, then let us be confident and sober in the Word. I see many of their faces fallen and defeated, terrified by the situation they see and what is to come, they do not know that you are an elected race, a royal priesthood, the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world, you are more what a winner and that no creature of the present or the future can separate you from the Love of God, in the person of Christ Jesus! So watch and pray because the One who bought you at a high price will come to rescue you. Maranata!
WK, You base much of your beliefs on a far future fulfillment of Revelation. The writer, John, addressed the book to the seven churches in Asia Minor that were actual (literal!) churches in his time. He says, quoting Jesus, “the things that must take place shortly”, “I am coming soon”, “the time is near” throughout Revelation. The revelation was given to John during one of the most trying times of the first century Christians. John says he is a “brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation” they were experiencing. The rivalry between those who said Caesar is Lord and those proclaiming Jesus is Lord began in earnest with the persecution of Nero in 64 AD, as we know from Tacitus and other historians. It is without a doubt that the revelation had a firm contextual grounding in the first century church struggling against the persecutions by the beast of Rome, not to the present day 2,000 years removed. If you want to understand Revelation, you must first understand the Old Testament; 2/3rd of the book is quoting or alluding to the OT prophets. For example, the harlot on the beast with the cup of wine representing the blood of the prophets and the saints was used in Jeremiah and Ezekiel as symbolic of apostate Judah in the 6th BC, when God judged the nation and destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in 586 BC. Jesus told the Pharisees they were guilty of the blood of “the prophets whose blood they shed”, and to fill up the full measure. This was the precise symbol used to describe the coming wrath of God in the OT through the Babylonians as it was in Revelation through the Romans. According to Eusebius the Christians fled Judea to the mountains of Perea to the north, in Pella, when the Roman armies led by Cestius Gallus surrounded the city in 66 AD. The Christians who heeded Jesus’ words to flee Judea were spared, while the Jews trusted in their ability to find protection in the temple, God’s house, and were slaughtered by the sword, famine, and plague-just as in Jeremiah and Ezekiel’s day. There is no mention of the antichrist in the book of Revelation, nor anywhere else in the NT. John describes “antichrists” as false teachers who had “gone out from” the congregations of believers in his day, but no end times antichrist is to be found in the Bible, at all. This is purely pop-eschatology, and it sells lots of books.
That's simple go through Matthew 24 the Olivet's Discourse, the Messiach gave the answers to His Disciples. I mean there you'll find His direct answer.
Tristan Anderson Our beliefs should be strongly grounded in biblical evidence so that we can confidently share our faith with others. The exchange of information we have on this forum is presenting our “arguments”-our defense of what we believe-but need not be “argumentative”. Examining the strengths and weaknesses of our beliefs makes us stronger in our service in the Kingdom, as “iron sharpens iron” (Prov 27:17). I have come to believe the rapture as commonly taught is not a biblical doctrine. I came to this conclusion after carefully studying the Bible, after previously believing it simply because that was what I was taught. I want to encourage you to challenge your beliefs, and be willing to follow what the Bible clearly teaches-not me, or any “prophecy experts”. There is nothing to fear or lose by challenging our beliefs against the Bible, only the reward of proper study and strength in your beliefs. My investigative journey of 8 years (and counting!) have led me to the conclusion that I could no longer support dispensationalism and a secret coming/partial resurrection called the rapture. Be encouraged to “test all things and hold on to that which is good” (1 Thess 5:12). Be blessed, Tristan!
Dawn Willoughby The plagues aren’t meant for believers but rather non-believers and unrepentant sinners. Wouldn’t it make sense that the fact that you know about the plagues and can read Revelation as a believer means that believers will experience it? Why even read Revelation if we won’t experience all the bad things prophecied? How can we expect to be saved by a rapture when most saints were killed for their belief and Jesus promised his followers would be persecuted? If Christians in Syria were crucified and had their heads cut off by ISIS then why should you or I be spared persecution? The Israelites were present during the 10 plagues on ancient Egypt, but they were spared the plagues because they put lamb’s blood on their doors. Tribulation will have a lot of violence, a lot will happen to believers and a lot to non-believers. I would say the entire book of Revelation is the answer to your request of a verse that shows believers will be on Earth during the plagues. Jesus promised his followers they would be persecuted for His name. Christians in Syria have been crucified by ISIS, Saint Peter was crucified upside down. I really doubt we will be raptured away for no reason. If we were raptured away the whole world would know Christ is Lord without question, and convienently get another chance
The taking away of the church, The Bride, is the rapture. Then God's wrath is poured out on the earth. The wrath is not for the church. Then there is the second coming of Christ and a thousand year reign.
Christians suffer persecution at the hands of men. Not at the hands of God. The tribulation isn't persecution. It's a fiery judgement upon the ones who rejected Christ.
@@suelloyd4384 its crystal clear to me in this verse that the gathering to Christ happens after the falling away and the man of sin is revealed. 2nd thessalonians chapter 2 2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things The bible teaches we all will face tribulation and persecution, during the birth pains in matthew 24 we will be delivered before kings and govenors even by our own families to be put to death for the testiomy of christ. Similar to revelation chapter 6 mentioning the altar of souls opened, where those inside are told to wait until their bretheren are KILLED as they were (not raptured) So as far as i know most of us true believers will be killed and persecuted and jailed for the true testimony of christ either during the birth pangs or first 5 seals. Then its clear as written in Pauls books as i shown in the verse above Corinthians and thessalonians that the coming Christ AND OUR GATHERING TO HIM doeesnt happen until after the falling away (great apostasy) and the man of perdition revealed. At the LAST TRUMPET!! Again in Revelation 12 the woman who i believe is ISRAEL is protected 1260 days (3.5 years) , the dragon then goes to make war with the remnant of her seed. Those who hold the testimony or CHRIST!! Thats us his church!!! The antichrist rises next chapter and is given power for guess what 3.5 years to overcome the SAINTS!! Who are the saints? We are believers and like Paul and Stephen and the others we will likley be persecuted and killed. 3.5 years is the exact time ISRAEL is protected on earth. (the woman 12 stars 12 tribes of israel see genesis joesphs dream) Its very clear we will all face persecution and tribulation for the testimony of Christ, its also very clear to me the gathering to christ (rapture) is after the tribulation period and the DEAD rise first. Im not right about everything, please if u can use the scriptures to correct me ! Thnx So we must endure until the end no matter what comes our way!!! Praise the most High and his son Jesus and beg his forgiveness no matter what happens!! Gos bless praise Jesus!!
Post-tribulation rapture presupposes a still yet future great tribulation prior to the second appearance of Jesus Christ. Hank believes in the future second appearance of Jesus Christ. He explains this in the book Resurrection | www.equip.org/product/resurrection/ Hank rejects the notion of a still yet future great tribulation. He explains this in the book Apocalypse Code | www.equip.org/product/the-apocalypse-code-paperback/ The post-tribulation rapture teaching is then flawed in its presupposition of a still yet future great tribulation. Hope this helps.
Thank you! I never believed in the rapture, because I study the Bible regularly. It tought me more, than any of the various Churches I've ever been to!
The seven years that the Hebrews were being murdered by the Nazi’s certainly fits the narrative of the Tribulation and Israel becoming a nation again after the 2 thousand year dispersal by the hand of Christ and Our Father.! The dry bones coming together in Ezekiel is fullfiled with Israel 🇮🇱 in 1948 .! All good things come from Our Father who art in HEAVEN AMEN
There is a pretrib rapture dear believer but not all those that believe in pretrib will go in pretrib.The Philadelphian saints are the church of BROTHERLY LOVE. The bride wants all saints to be harvested with the barley company at pretrib. The bulk of the church will reject the bridal calling. Believers will go to heaven when they are ready to be harvested. The crop must be ready before it can be harvested. Barley and wheat are both grain companies that are both planted at the same time, in the autumn. Barley matures faster than wheat and is harvested in the spring. BARLEY IS THE BRIDE, and she leaves at pretrib. Wheat is harvested in the summer. Wheat is the great multitude church gathered in Rev 7..... THE VIRGINS WITHOUT NUMBER AKA THE INNUMERABLE COMPANY! The final company, caught up at midtrib, before the open door is shut, are the grapes that are gathered at midtrib. The grapes are the 144,000 Jews. The Jews finally believe Christ is their king because they gleaned the truth from the Barley and wheat companies.
"Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to deliver them on the Day of the LORD’s wrath. The whole earth will be consumed by the fire of His jealousy. For indeed, He will make a SUDDEN END of all who dwell on the earth!" (Zephaniah 1:18)
One, it says " all those who dwell in the "land." Read further, chapter two begins with a call to repentance. Verse 3 " Seek the lord all you meek of the earth, ( this is addressed to the nation of Israel at that period of time) And it was also fulfilled. That's the problem of not knowing history and listening to blind guides. Jesus said, in Luke 16:16," The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached and everyone is pressing into it." And again in Hebrews 1:1 " God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time " PAST," to the fathers by the prophets. Hath in these last days ( of the old covenant) no more animal sacrifice, new priesthood, " Spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom He also made the ages."
At 3:52 into this video the Holy Spirit inspired me to write this passage of scripture. Jesus Christ was rebuking the spirit that was inspiring Peter. Matthew Chapter 16:21-23 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and BE RAISED AGAIN the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, GET THEE BEHIND ME, SATAN: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Anyone that denies what is clearly in the Word of God must be rebuked. To deny the Rapture of the Church you are in effect saying, that what Jesus did at the Cross of Calvary wasn't enough to atone for our sins, and we have to go through the Great Tribulation.
Amen brother! Post-tribbers are proudly proclaiming that they would lay down their lives for Christ at the prospect of taking the mark. But just like Peter they are denying the words of Jesus in Luke 21:36, Rev. 3:10, John 14:3 and Matthew 16:18.
How do you square 1 thessalonians 4:13-18 where he says "we will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep"...."and the dead in christ will rise first", 1 Corinthians 15:52 that says at the last Trump Christ will descend from the clouds in his second coming, second coming last Trump which is at the end of the tribulation as spelled out in revelation 20:4-5 where christ comes and and raises the dead, verse 4 "and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." And verse 5 where it says this was the first resurrection. If we do not preceed the dead in christ (first ressurection of saints) being raised which is at the end of the tribulation when jesus comes for the second time descending from the clouds, how can you preach pre-tribulation rapture when it clearly says we will not preceede those saints raised at the end of the tribulation? Pre tribulation rapture is unbiblical when looking at this simple timeline.
@@scottwall8419 but look in verse 17, in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4. Caught up is our word. Which is how we get rapture. We are not in the tribulation, 1st Thessalonians 5:9. 1st Corinthians 15:52-55 is the rapture. Those in Revelation 20:4-5 are tribulation saints
@Titus 2:13 those in Revelations 20:4-5 are the dead in christ. It does not say tribulation saints. What it does say is that is the 1st ressurection. If there was a rapture before the tribulation where the dead in christ are raised first like 1 corinthians 15:52 says then you have proven the bible a liar because the pre tribulation rapture of the dead in christ would be the 1st ressurection and revelations 20 would be the second. Not to mention the only time the dead in christ are mentioned to be raised is in revelations 20. 1 cor 15:52 also says "at the last trumpet" so either there multiple last trumpets or the your claiming it either doesnt actually mean the last trumpet which is coincidentally in revelations 20 also or that the bible is wrong again. So the dead in christ and the the last trumpet happen to be when christ literally appears to the world in revelations 19-20. So is there pre-tribulation rapture and the bible contradicts itself twice in this limited context or should we trust in what the bible says? 1 thessalonians 5:9 question. If Christian's are not going to be around while the wrath is being poured out then as each person accepts christ during the tribulation are they just SOL and have ti experience gods wrath? Also, does the same go for the 144,000, do we just say tough gig? No, I think god will make certain protections for his people to protect them possibly like he did with Noah and his family or like he did with the Israelites during the plagues in Egypt. Another thing I would ask you to consider is Revelation 19:7 where the great multitude who comes with christ says "Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory! For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready." According to then the wedding feast referred to by Jesus in Matthew 25 and Mark 13 has not happened yet and the bride(which is the church) has made herself ready, this is the end of the tribulation. A common beleif in pre-tribulation beleif is that christ comes for his bride before the tribulation and that verse indicates he has not done that up to this point. Sorry for the lengthy reply, curious to hear your reaction.
@@scottwall8419 I do understand, and I might be wrong and many others but I respect your opinion. I do believe in a pre-trib for many reasons but i won't say that I am above everyone. As well I won't argue back. This is Satan doing, being the author of confusion. I do think the rapture and the second coming are different, you just have to know what your looking for. More over you do have to watch for His return, Matthew 24:36 and Luke 21:28. Have a bless day or night 🌃 ( I do love and forgive you, but mostly, if you kept arguing, repent, I am not saying you did but if you have, please do it. This is a amazing thing God has blessed us with. )
@rodneymartin3846 Ask why they suppose you are learning from demos? Remind them in the spirit of humility, gentleness, and respect: There is not a single verse telling us there is a pretribulation rapture, i.e., the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millennium.
@@BibleAnswerMan this is a pastor’s response to my post “There are two different spirits leading us here one is leading you and one is leading me that's why we have a difference of opinion! And I know the Holy Spirit of God that leads me so you cannot change what I know from the Holy Spirit! As in the same way, I cannot change your opinion or your stand!”
Same, tired reasons always given. After a while it’s just mind numbing. But you know what? Either way, we’re going to be finding out in the very near future. The road immediately ahead is growing quickly chaotic.
One of the problems for pre-tribbers is that they don't have 1 Maccabees in their Bible (that tells us about this abomination of desolation). Martin Luther threw it out of the Bible 500 years ago, despite it having been there for over 1,200 years.
I was a post triber, pre wrath thinker. However, studying this topic in the scripture it leaves me lean towards pre trib. It requires scriptures interpreting scriptures. The Holy Spirit will be taken off this earth before the 7 years start. We saved Christians are sealed with the Holy Spirit and that is a promise by God. Now right before the 7 years start John sees the heavens open and the church sit in heaven, at the same time the spirit is taken off the earth and the 7 years start. There is much more to it but a deep study leaves me lean towards pre trib. The rapture that is easily referred to always addresses the Jews. Paul however addressed the gentiles and much is different. Rightly dividing is crucial to avoid confusion.
Zach, read Leviticus 14:33-53, the story regarding a plague of mildew in one's house. Here in the Torah is the pre-Tribulation Rapture confirmed, the priest (Christ) comes before the 7 days (years) to call out believers from the house (the world), being the sixth church of Revelation. Reddish plague is symbolic of leftism, Marxism, communism, etc. Greenish mildew is symbolic of Islam. People found in the house during the 7 days must wash their clothes, this group is symbolic of people who come to faith during the Tribulation, the seventh church of Revelation.
For further reading on the so-called pretribulation rapture, see www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/ www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/ www.equip.org/article/daniel-prophesy-seven-year-great-tribulation/ www.equip.org/articles/the-perils-of-newspaper-eschatology/ and www.equip.org/article/dispensationalism-indispensable/
Preterism? False teaching.
@@elmac1085absolutely... read my comment and respond please
@@elmac1085 First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELEIVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Gods word. Romans 6;23. For the penalty for sin is death, BUT, (the good news) The GIFT of God is ETERNAL LIFE, through Jesus Christ our Lord. The GIFT of God is eternal life. Those who have received the free gift, HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. God cannot lie. John 6:47. John 3:18. Jesus said it, we believe it, and that settles it. John 3:16. First John 2:2. Romans 1:16.
I am a bible believer. Not a Calvinist or an Arminian. I do not see either one of those in my bible. John 3:16 refutes both of them. First John 2:2 refutes both of them. John 5:24 refutes all false gospels. The gospel Paul preached and the gospel that Jesus preached. First Corinthians 15:1-4. That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that HE was buried and rose again on the third day, for our JUSTIFICATION. Romans 3:26-28. Romans 4:5-8. Jesus said it, we believe it, and that settles it. John 3:18. Believers are no longer condemned to hell, but UNBELIEVERS are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. John 10:28-29. Hebrews 13:5. He will never leave us or forsake us. He will never cast us out. John 6:37.
Ephesians 1:13-14. Our guarantee of eternal life. Ephesians 4:30. And Grieve not the Holy Spirit in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. The rapture of the church. I can not go to hell because he already paid for all my sins. I have no sins to pay for. And the GIFT of God is ETERNAL LIFE. We cannot lose eternal life, because it is eternal life. If we could lose it, it would not be eternal. If we could earn it, then Jesus died in vain. Galatians 2:21.
Hank I love your teaching on the false doctrine of the pre-trib rapture first taught by John Nelson Darby not all that long ago in the 1830s! People need to study church history to find out the truth and cross reference it with Biblical truth like you do and many of us do who study scripture. I totally agree with you on so much stuff the mainline churches have been teaching in error for decades. God bless you Hank and thank you for what you do for the Gospel. ✝️🙏✝️🙏
It doesn't matter whether believers will be raptured before the tribulation or after it. What matters is we must always be ready so that the day we die, we will be right with our God.
It mostly doesn't matter. But go ahead and tell someone who believes in pretrib rapture and see how nasty they get with you. Not all, but a good deal of these people have already fallen away.
It DOES matter in the sense that if you believe you're going to be captured and it never happens, you're going to be very disillusioned and lose faith because you have been taught wrong information! The "great falling away"!
Pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib - they're all wrong. There is no SECRET rapture and then Christ coming back a third time! Read your Bibles!!
Hank is saying that there is no secret rapture it is more biblically called the Resurrection at Christs coming not a rapture. There is no Bible to support pretrib rapture. This was first started in the in the 1830s. The early church did not teach a rapture before the great tribulation that Jesus speaks of Matthew 24!
It matters in the sense that Christ warned and so did Paul to the church.
There is a pretrib rapture dear believer but not all those that believe in pretrib will go in pretrib.The Philadelphian saints are the church of BROTHERLY LOVE. The bride wants all saints to be harvested with the barley company at pretrib. The bulk of the church will reject the bridal calling. Believers will go to heaven when they are ready to be harvested. The crop must be ready before it can be harvested. Barley and wheat are both grain companies that are both planted at the same time, in the autumn. Barley matures faster than wheat and is harvested in the spring. BARLEY IS THE BRIDE, and she leaves at pretrib. Wheat is harvested in the summer. Wheat is the great multitude church gathered in Rev 7..... THE VIRGINS WITHOUT NUMBER AKA THE INNUMERABLE COMPANY! The final company, caught up at midtrib, before the open door is shut, are the grapes that are gathered at midtrib. The grapes are the 144,000 Jews. The Jews finally believe Christ is their king because they gleaned the truth from the Barley and wheat companies.
I think people are going to freak out when they dont get the easy way out
Perhaps as they might have been when Enoch was translated before the flood
Bill Altier Enoch? what does that have to do with it?
@@silenceseeker5456 Enoch received (the easy way out) because he did not go through the experience of the great flood where only eight souls were saved by water
The rapture will be at the last trumpet. (like it is written in scriptures below)
(before the 7 bowls of the wrath of God)
Revelation 10
-7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the MYSTERY of God
should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
1 Corinthians 15
-51 Behold, I shew you a MYSTERY; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed
-52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the
dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4
-16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel,
and with the TRUMPET of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise
-17 After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet
the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
@@1516Taylor That was 500 years before the flood. He could also die in that time. A very weak argument and it applies to all Rapture views, because the destruction of the wicked comes at His wrath after the GT at His 2nd coming, not before. Study the Day of the Lord and God's wrath in the Greek,(LITV bible), it will open your eyes.
If both the Saved and the Unsaved are Raised simultaneously and Judged as you CLAIM, what about Revelation 20:5-6, Which says, "The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.! This is the first Resurrection. Blessed and Holy are those who have part in the First Resurrection. The Second Death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.!!🤔✝️👀🫠♎️🕎🙋♂️
So you are just going to skip verses 3 and 4?
You are right, the rest of the dead do not come to life until the 1,000 years are finished. Those in the first resurrection will live in heaven with God, Christ and the holy angels. Satan and his demons will be confined to the earth until the dead are resurrected AFTER the thousand years. Those who really have the Spirit of God and Christ living in them are given this true understanding.
@@jacob.tudragens Verses three and four is John contextually explaining who is reigning with Messiah in the first resurrection/thousand years.
@@iamjusjamn Contextually/actually the ‘’reining on the earth’’ is not in heaven. unless you phrase it as Heaven on earth.
The rest of the dead that wiil rise after the thousand years is the once that will face judgement. Not the once that died in Christ.
Explain Luke 21:36 if it's unbiblical, if we are to pray to escape ALL things that must come to pass, when you believe there is no escape.
They cannot explain it. These are Jesus words, yet they reject what he said in Luke 21:36 as if he did not know what he was talking about.
@Nick-83 God would preserve then through those trials of course. But nothing about a pretribulation rapture - the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millennium.
He basically says there is no coming tribulation in the first place.
@@BibleAnswerMan It does not say "preserve" its says "escape". Two completely different words that mean 2 very different things. You don;t get to change the meaning of words to fit your false doctrines. Furthermore Revelation is clear many believers will be killed in a horrible manner in the tribulation, how is that preservation? Not to mention Rev 3:10 also says we will be kept from the hour of testing that will come upon the whole world. You are teaching false doctrine.
Altho87gh this is very unsettling matthew Ch 24 verses 29-31 are choronological and there is no pre trib rapture. i have heard all the 'what abut?" comebacks, and they have built this doctrine out of a few verses taken out of context, and sold it to the Church. I believed it for like 40 year2, but then asked GOD to teach me the truth on this false doctrine..I believe he did. Do I hope i am wrong? YES.. but we need to be saturated with God's word,and I believe Canada and the US have been free to study it because we are going to be hit very hard, harder than sodom and Gom were not as evil as we have become, because we have God's word, in almost every house.. HANK, I hope your handicap is single digit, and for someone a year or two older than me, you look super. I subbed you and than you for having the courage to tell the truth
The Greek word from this term “rapture” is derived appears in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, translated “caught up.” The Latin translation of this verse used the word rapturo. The Greek word it translates is harpazo, which means to "snatch or take away".
Hanegraff does not know this or acknowledge this.
@@granthodges3012 'caught up' from Thessalonians 4.17 does not translate to 'rapture'. To 'rapture' is to break off from something not to get caught up. Different meanings entirely. When you stretch the meaning of 'caught up' to incorporate 'rupture' you risk breaking the semantics involved. Punn intended.
@@oneoctavelow Understanding the Bible begins with the Greek text, in this context, the Greek word harpadzo. In Liddell and Scott, p. 245, the classic Greek Lexicon, the hardback version, which I am lucky to own, on p. 245 begins the long entry on harpadzo. The first three meanings in order are: 1. snatch away, carry off. 2 seize hastily, snatch up. 3. Seize, overpower, over master. The next two entries are variations on No. 3. So the Latin translations used the future passive of the Latin "rapio", to translate harpadzo, which is how it came in to English. The Latin lexical form is "rapiemur", "to seize, snatch, or carry away", pretty much a one to one translation. This is how "the Rapture" came into our English speech about I Thessalonians 4:17. This is first year Greek lore. So I am certain you didn't look this up in a Greek lexicon. And you certainly are totally wrong as is whoever told you your story above. So . . . . your punishment . . . :) . . . is . . . Read Romans 11 aloud slowly and each time you come to the word Israel or a pronoun that refers back to Israel, you must say "The Church" with gusto! Listen carefully to yourself and how what you are reading doesn't make any sense, and realize that All the nation of Israel WILL BE SAVED! Isn't that wonderful?!
@@oneoctavelow ignore the word "rapture" and study the word "Harpadzo" . I love Andy Woods sermon series on "The Rapture" aka Harpadzo! I used to be a post trib guy, so glad I got the wake up call.
@@granthodges3012it is hard for me to take people like you seriously on the topic of religion. I fear that the gnostics were closer to the truth than are today's bible literalists. It is in fact pitiful to see grown men be so wrong about understanding God. Bible literalism is the path to perdition and for most of you it's already too late.
How would you explain Matthew 24 and 1 Thessalonians 4, 2 Thessalonians 2:7
1.) Context 2.) Accurate Greek Translation 3.) Who the author is speaking/writing to. Look up the greek words Harpazo and Apantesis. These are the words that modern rapture-defenders use to translate as "Magical Vaporization of Believers" theory.
actually those verses speak of a post "abomination" rapture/meeting with Jesus, contrary to a pre trib idea. But the host of this video just talks and talks and NEVER makes his point clearly, ignoring scripture since it is contrary to his ideas. both the pre-trib idea is wrong as well as Hanegraaf's explanation
All you need to do is look at at all of matt 24 after the the tribulation of those days god sends out his angles to gather the elect notice after the tribulation not before
@@stykemccormack3741 which elect, the church or the 144K?
@@stykemccormack3741that’s not a rapture verse. Gathering of the elect is not the harpadso. Sheep and goat judgment.
The left behind series(movie) has it backwards. Those left behind are the righteous. Those taken(raptured) are taken for judgement.Matthew 24:36-44 and Luke17:26-37. Darby was a priest that was disgruntled. He wrongly coined what rapture meant....judgement.
Poor Bible teaching irritates me. Study the WORD. Did God destroy the righteous in the Flood??? Could God destroy Sodom before the angels literally dragged Lot out? Would God promise the Harpazzo, the snatching away of the Bride of Christ and say “ COMFORT YOURSELVES ONE ANOTHER WITH THESE WORDS 1Thess. 4:16 then leave his Bride to suffer the TRIBULATION JUDGMENT where AntiChrist will be given power to overcome the saints? NO! In Revelation only Tribulation saints are on earth… the BRIDE IS AT THE WEDDING FEAST IN HEAVEN… the UNKNOWN DAY of Jesus return ( Above the earth ) is the RAPTURE… the KNOWN DAY of his Second Coming UPON the earth is the Second Coming which will be OBVIOUS to ALL the Tribulation saints for Scripture describes the exact Day THREE TIMES in THREE DIFFERENT WAYS 3-1/2 YEARS, or 42 MONTHS or 1,260 DAYS after the Abomination of Desolation which is the exact MID POINT of the SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION ( that SEVENTIETH WEEK OF YEARS OF DANIEL. READ SCRIPTURE..ALL THE WORD
I can see that your expertise is telling jokes. Noah was saved from wrath (flood), but he endured tribulation (mockery during his tenure in building the ark). Lot was saved from wrath (fire and brimstone) but he endured tribulation (Sodom and Gomorrah people's conduct)
Pre-tribers in all era always mixing wrath and tribulation.
the flood killed ever human alive, Sodom and gomorrah were totally fried. so yyes, got deliver them.. BUT the trib does not 'fry or drown everyone. i stand on matt 24: 29 to 31.Read it, and do the math
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 the dead rise first. Rapture scripture. John 6:39,40,44,54. The dead rise on last day. Revelation 20:4-10. The first resurrection happens after the tribulation. Pretribulation rapture is not biblical.
when I came to understand this truth, it changed how I look at scripture, the problem now is finding like minded believers in a church setting. I don't feel we should have to hide this truth to be a part of a local body. any churches that hold to this belief?
Not knowing the truth will make them accept the mark of the beast.
Y’all are fallen away from the truth
@@beanteam2217 Man-made doctrines from the 1800s are not truth.
All churches other than american non-denoms, some baptists and some pentecostals reject pre-trib nonsense. That leaves everything from Orthodoxy, Catholicism, Lutheranism, Anglicanism, Methodism, Episcopalianism wide open...the list goes on. If you are Protestant, basically any church that was founded before the 1800's. Pre-trib beliefs are a minority in Christianity.
Some Brethren Churches, various Reformed Theology Churches. If you're in Colorado, I can make specific recommendations. None of these, while post trib, make this a central doctrine or essential matter, which I believe is correct as well.
1. Why then watch and pray, "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Luke 31:36.
Why is there a 1st Resurrection (of which Jesus Christ is The First Fruits?)
2. There is still 1 week missing in Daniel's 70 weeks prophesy, 7+62=69 having been fulfilled. Also, these 69 were fulfilled by Israel.
3. Revelation informs us in The Word of God that the anti-christ will put an end to sacrifice 3 1/2 years into the 7 year period / covenant that is signed.
Israel, must declare / say "Blessed is He who comes in The Name of The Lord" and they will do this when they realize that Jesus Christ is their Messiah.
4. Can you explain the appearing of Jesus IN THE CLOUDS vs His Feet touching / landing on the Mount of Olives.
Appearing for those waiting and expecting Him and for those rejecting Him, like a thief in the night.
Landing on the Mount of Olives, every eye will see Him.
1. The Greek says watch and pray that you may have the strength (to overcome), to escape. There is an escape from and out of trial, God makes a way of escape out of trouble (Ps 124:7+8; 2.Peter 2:9). The context says we will see all these things (Mat 24:15+33).
The FIRST RESURRECTION is the first (proton) of two resurrections, the next is 1000 years later, not 1007 (Rev 20:4-6). The First fruits are the first of a harvest of 3 resurrections with a changed body, afterwards ALL believers in Christ, dead and alive at His parousia = advent, that is after the GT (Mat 24:29-31)and includes the Saints of the Tribulation. There is no resurrection nor a coming of Christ before the last 7 years! Not in the bible. Then comes the end, the last resurrection of the just and unjust after the Millennium. You make the First Resurrection to the second, the Greek word protos is always the first of the following ones, it does not go backwards. In Rev 20:4-6 it is the first of the believers in Christ, the First-fruits are OT saints.
4. Your problem with Mat 24:29-31 is you cannot see, that Jesus does not come to the earth and lands on the mount of Olives, He comes in the clouds and gathers His elect, which are NT believers (1.Peter 1:2}, not surviving Jews. The Jews and the nations come to Jerusalem in the Millennium (Jesus sits on the throne, to judge the nations) after His coming in the air. The gathering through the angels is the harvest (Mat 13:30:39+49), not the coming of the Jews to Jerusalem. The gathering of Mat 24:31 is the same as 2. Thess 2:1 unto Him, Who is in the air. The Jews are brought by Gentiles in earthly vessels (Isa 66:20; 14:2; 49:22), God makes a highway for them (Isa 11:15+16).
@@benny-yj7pq Greek is not the pure language of the LORD. Read the holy scriptures and learn the words of the Lord are pure words of a pure language and his language is not Greek.
Its a waste of time arguing with those deny PRETRIB.Let them prepare for the Tribulations rather than Rapture or death whichever comes first.Its sad they believe JESUS CHRIST died in vain to let them go through the Tribulation.
@@danieltait5115 I made mention of the Greek language not being the language which is the holy scriptures.
The language in the book of the LORD is known as Hebrew.
All the words in the book of the LORD are pure words and even the one and only word which is known to be Greek (Apollyon) is a pure word.
Revelation 9:11
And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
The Lord declared all 66 books of the LORD in one pure language from the beginning when he pronounced every letter of every pure word with his lips in the Hebrew tongue:
Psalm 119:89
For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Isaiah 46:9-10
Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
[10] Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
Genesis 11:1
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
Psalm 33:11
The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.
Acts 26:14-16
And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
[15] And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
[16] But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
(The Jews did not have advantage by the Lord giving his words to the Jew's in an alien Gentile Greek language:
Acts 22:1-3
Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defence which I make now unto you.
[2] (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,)
[3] I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.
Romans 3:1-4
What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
[2] Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
[3] For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
[4] God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Psalm 119:160
Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.
Psalm 119:128
Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way.
(the question is: what is the true Hebrew tongue which the whole earth spake before Babel and which is likened to the language in the generation of the Lord's return?).
There is no other book likened to a particular book men call (the King James Bible) having all the required mate lines which prove it to be perfect. All other books when examined and the spirits are tried are found to condemn themselves.
@@1516Taylor They didn't speak Hebrew in the beginning of the world. They spoke a language unknown to men now, because God abolished it and dispersed the people and the languages at Babel.
I agree with this. I think there will be one second coming of our Lord, and not two.
So if the second coming was in 70 AD, then that means there is no more salvation, no more Gospel, no more elect, and no resurrection. It means there is no more Christianity. These are the consequences of full preterism.
@@70AD-user45 no one typed or said the 2ndcoming was in 70 a.d.,it was the 3.5 year tribulation Daniel prophesied,,,if revelation was written after 70 a.d.john would have written about it.
@@70AD-user45 70 AD was not the second coming. It was the judgement on "this generation" spoken of in Matthew 24:34. So thankfully we still have Christianity until Jesus returns a 2nd time. whew that was close!
@@70AD-user45 Listen to our Lord Jesus Christ when He says
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:29-30
@@dist221
Are you taking all those verses literally? It's what you call Hebraic apocalyptic language which was written using hyperbolic (exaggerated) language. You need to find out what those verses SYMBOLISE? For example, what does it mean that the Son of Man will "come on the clouds of heaven"? Obviously this is symbolic language.
Easier said than done. Every time I think I've gotten it right, I've got about 20 different religious people telling me I've got it wrong. So, I figure, I'm better off listening to that quiet voice of God that reveals lessons to me from time to time.
They make a lot more sense then all the preachers I've ever heard, and all the religious people I've ever encountered.
Yep…that quiet voice tells me there is no pre trib rapture.
Isaiah 26:19-21
@@tarzanvineswinger7405 This passage is speaking about Israel, not the Church. "Thou has increased the nation, oh Lord...Lord in trouble have they visited Thee, they poured out a prayer when Thy chastening was upon them...Like a woman they cried out in their pangs...we have been with child. but we have not wrought deliverance on the earth...thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body they will arise...Come my people, enter into thy chambers and shut the doors about thee, hide thyselves as it were for a little moment...for behold the Lord comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity." Isaiah is prayer this pray about his people Israel, not about the Church. God will hide Israel in the time of trouble.
Read and study the word of GOD AND be like the Berren in the book of acts who searched the scriptures daily to see if these things Paul spoke were true God's word is true your responsible for checking it out please do
@@brettkrueger9464 I've studied the Bible daily for over thirty years and found that these things are not true. There is no hint whatsoever of any of the variations of Dispensationalism as they are taught. There are of course two dispensations recorded in the Bible, the old and the new. The word "dispensation" comes from the Greek "oikonomos" which means, literally, "law of the house." In the beginning, God created man in His image and dwelt with him in Eden. Under the Old Covenant, God's "house" became the Temple. It was were His glory dwelt, for a time. Moses was the steward of that House and "dispensed" the law to the people. In the fulness of time, Jesus became the true Temple, the dwelling place of God. It was in Him that the glory and the fulness of the godhead dwelt. After Jesus death and resurrection, He ascended to the right hand of the Father. From there He sent His Spirit, and those who believe become Living Stones in the Temple of Christ's Body, filled with all the fulness of God, and changed from glory to glory into His image. Paul is the steward of God's New Testament House, dispensing the Law of Christ to God's people. It's as simple as that.
The Church is pictured as a holy City, a Bride made up of walls with the names of the twelve apostles, and gates with the names of the twelve tribes. Apart from the Church, Israel after the flesh has no inheritance. God does not have two peoples, an earthly Israel and a heavenly Church. God and the Lamb dwell in the midst of the Holy City, the HEAVENLY Jerusalem, a people crucified with Christ and raised up, seated with Him in heavenly places. God's Kingdom is not of this world. If it were, His servants would fight to bring it to pass. The writer of Hebrews tells us, "...You have come to Mount Zion...the church of the Firstborn whose names are written in heaven..." Read the rest of Paul and you will find that God's ETERNAL PURPOSE from the foundation of the world is to bring all things in heaven and earth and under the earth, together IN CHRIST. It is not to separate the earthly and the heavenly as Dispensationalist claim. The Church is the fulfillment, or culmination of the ages (I Corinthians 10), the fulfillment of all the types and shadows of the Old Testament, for "the Testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." I grew up a Dispensationalist, believing in a Pretrib rapture. I had all the books and DVDs and tapes and charts and understood it all. I listened to all of the TV preachers, Lindsey, Stone, VanImpe, Walvoord, etc. Then I began studying the Bible and found none of these things they taught. In Dispensationalism, passages as wrested out of context, words and terms and definition are conflated, a priori assumptions are made and the literal hermeneutic that Dispensationalists claim to use consistently, is only used when a passage seems to support their theory. Those that contradict their theory are conveniently place in the "for Israel" category. Great tribulation becomes the wrath of God, even though it is the antichrist who perpetuates this great tribulation after the placing of the abomination. John is said to represent the Church in Revelation 4 when he is purported to be raptured, but then for some unknown reason, when he is taken into the wilderness he ceases to be the Church. Paul, quoting Isaiah, tells us that "though they be like the sands of the seashore, only a remnant will be saved. Later He tells us that "in this manner, all Israel will be saved." Logic tells of that "all Israel" and the "remnant" must be describing the same group of people. He also tells us that that remnant was being saved in His day, just as the remnant was being saved in Elijah's day. And that remnant will continue to be saved until the fullness of the Gentile is come into that remnant of Israel, the Olive Tree. (The implication of God's people being an Olive Tree is that they are filled with olive oil, a symbol of the Holy Spirit.) Under the Old Covenant, God's chosen people consisted of an earthly kingdom. Under the New Covenant, His people consist of a remnant of faith OUT OF the earthly nation, NOT the entire nation. The Kingdom was taken away from Israel a given to a people (the remnant of Israel) who would bear the fruit of the Kingdom. Under the Law, there is no fruit, for the Law brings wrath, and a curse. With the coming of the Spirit, a believing remnant of Israel was born again and became fruitful. It is this faithful and fruitful Israel that Gentiles are grafted into, and those unbelieving branches of Israel that were broken off because of unbelief, in order to be saved, can only be saved by receiving the Spirit through faith. Of course, this Spirit is the same Spirit that Dispensationalist say is removed with the Church at the rapture. And somehow, void of the Spirit, 144,000 Jewish "evangelists?" (something never indicated in the text) will bear the fruit of salvation, bringing a multitude into the Kingdom (a different Kingdom that the one Christ rules over, which is not of this world.) Anyway, Dispensationalism is a complex web of deceit and sleight of hand, and that is why it is so hard to disprove. It takes years of study to unravel the complex web of lies.
We just need to be ready regardless of what God decides to do...but this video is so needed because some Christians are hanging thier hat on this pre tribulation hope. We want to have our spirits ready for if we are persecuted in the tribulation knowing that is where our victory is at just like the son of man who lied his down before us.
The first chapters of Revelation exhort the churches to overcome. How did Jesus overcome? By submitting to death. Therefore God exalted Him and gave Him the Name that is above every other name. Pretribbers believer they will be exalted without even having to overcome anything. But what are those things that the Spirit is urging the churches to overcome? The very things that are revealed in the rest of Revelation. The NT tells us to consider it pure joy when we face trials of many kinds, knowing that the testing of our faith develops perseverance, and perseverance makes us mature and perfects our faith. Paul urged us to rejoice in suffering and to be patient in tribulation, and he longed to fill up in his flesh the sufferings of Christ, being made like Him in His death, so as to somehow attain to the resurrection of the dead. We are told over and over against to watch and pray. Pretribbers think this means to watch for the rapture. But that is not the meaning. It means to watch, be on guard, be careful, lest we fall into temptation and deception. Jesus, during His hour of temptation in Gethsemane, urged the disciple to watch and pray. When they had fallen asleep, He asked, Could you not watch for one hour? This is a type of the hour of temptation in Revelation. Like Peter, many will be caught unaware and will fall away like the seed sown on throne ground. When trouble and persecution come, because they have no root, they will quickly wither. Unfortunately, they will not heed any of the warnings because they believe that they are for Israel and not the Church. They have been deceived by the false doctrine called Dispensationalism.
You are correct. But thinking in pre trib will put your guard down and you will stop searching and looking for Yeshua.
Mate, do you have personal relationship with The Lord? When conveying his Rapture Message to Thessalonians, did not Paul the Apostle say, " wesay unto you by the word of The Lord" (1 Thessalonians chapter 4 vs. 13-18). It was The Lord"s Message Paul was delivering to the people of God, NOT his own fanciful fable! How could you and other Saints absorb any nauseatic doubts from boffins like this one on the video? Did not our Lord Yeshua The Messiah warn us as the primary thing, to watch out that no man deceive you? (Matthew 24:4). What more could one say?
The stooge on this video plays false prophet and liar. Sent by the Antichrist and his henchmen, most likely
@@lawrencegarcia1675 That’s an assumption…your assuming that fear of the tribulation is what’s going to keep us following Christ when it’s the fear or reverence for the Lord that will keep us not the fear of a event. In the tribulation there will still be people that will deny Christ so that event cannot be our reason.
The Pre-Tribulational rapture theory will cause MANY to fall away.
Wow. Good point. May God richly bless you brother. Another reason why the rapture is false.
If people insist on setting dates, then yes you are right.
No one knows the two things when will be rapture and when will be jesus christ coming.
We all are waiting and believe
Oh then I have good question who are the people that are alive during the millennium reign? Since the church is taken in the end with Christ and the rest die with the antichrist? Right? So who are those people?
Christians are not going to face great tribulation because its Jacobs trouble.
Christian have job to do now, and they're being persecuted for this all their life, and moreover, a christian life is a sacrificial life.
It's started with Jews its going to end with Jews.
Ask for The Holy Spirit to help you read the Bible. Without the Spirit of God it will be impossible to understand.
Read the Orthodox Study Bible & read the Patristic Church fathers.
There have been more than 10,00 Protestant Church founders who each believed the Holy Spirit was guiding them in their unique idiosyncretic interpretations. Obviously, not all were correctly guided in their interpretations. Many suffered and many continue to suffer from what is called Prelest (spiritual self-delusion). E.g., "I know what this says after 2000 years, I have the insight, I know what this means, I am special, everyone else has been doing things wrong!"
The work has already been done for us. We have the Church, thanks be to God.
I keep hearing "let the holy spirit guide you" . Judging from the 45000 Christian denominations in the world it seems to me that very few understand what it means.
@@jeffreyromero9169 Yes, millions of Christians with millions of differing opinions and differing conclusions all are led by the Spirit.
@@jeffreyromero9169 It is complicated at times.
@@toddott633 The bible does not contradict itself therefore the spirit of God would not tell one person one thing and another something else. It seems more likely that the reason for so many denominations is human error.
I was once pre-tribulation and now I’m post tribulation but I wouldn’t complain if the rapture occurred and I was taken out of the way there. We’re gonna go down to the minute when Jesus is coming back everything works on our time clock with God 1268 from the abomination of desolation is I understand it something plays about 30 days additionally into that if I understood what my mother taught me.
IDK I always felt the rapture teaching is very American like our brothers and sisters suffer so badly but we think we’ll be raptured before it gets so bad here.
I agree. I recently heard a quote from Corrie Ten Boom where she talks about the same thing!!
I ALSO AGREE. WE ARE SUCH GOOD PEOPLE? I BELIEVED BECAUSE I WAS TAUGHT ... NOT ANYMORE.
Acts 14:22
King James Version
22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much TRIBULATION enter into the kingdom of God
Wake up!
@cesar Can you expand on your interpretation there? Do you think that verse is a rapture proof?
@@samanthagirikhanov2796 that verse is proof that there is NO such thing as a pre-trib rapture. Think about this, all Christ disciples went through tribulation. The apostles went through tribulation. And even Christ himself did. So are we greater than the master? NO! Those that are alive will go through much tribulation before the return of Christ Yashaya.
I actually had to go back and read your original post again, I was thinking you believed in the rapture theory. But you're right it's a very American thing. So many people will be shocked and turn away from God once they find out the rapture is just one big lie!
The Left a behind series was fictional. How did it make its way into the church?
@CeJay - It is really the reverse. The theology of the Left Behind series made it into the church and certain church folks decided to writes stories and make movies based on the Left Behind theology they were taught.
See www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/ and www.equip.org/articles/when-truth-gets-left-behind/
As most movies are but the doctrine of the rapture as you can imagine was not based on a movie but on biblical truth which distinguishes between the church and Israel. The anti-Semitic doctrine of replacement theology which says the church replaced Israel is straight from the pit of hell. Read Romans 9 to 11
@@robbiemcnichol4007 Incorrect. "Replacement theology" is the truth about the church of Christ and has always been preached for the past 2000 years. The racist doctrine that certain people are better than others because of their ancestral sperm donors is of Hell. Also known as Loxism,it crept into the church in the late 19th century.
U mad 😠
Some would rather believe a lie.
“Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV
1. I declare unto you the gospel (good news)
2. Wherein ye stand ( foundational doctrine)
3. By which ye are saved (not lost)
4. unless ye believed in vain ( there’s a way to falsely believe)
5. Christ died for our sins
6. was buried
7. rose again the third day
“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,”- Ephesians 1:13 KJV
1. ye trusted
2. ye believed
3. ye were sealed
“And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” Ephesians 4:30 KJV
1. ye are sealed
“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” John 11:25-26 KJV
1. he that believeth in me; though he were dead, yet shall he live
2. whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.” John 6:47 KJV
1. he that believeth on me
2. hath everlasting life
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
1.he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me
2. Hath everlasting life
3. Shall not come into condemnation
4. Is passed from death unto life
you’re not saved by what you do, you’re saved by what Christ has done for us, his sacrifice on the cross for the remission of sins so your sins are forgiven and his righteousness is imputed unto you
“And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:” Philippians 3:9 KJV
“Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” Romans 3:22-26 KJV
do you truly believe in his words? Do you truly believe that he died for your sins to be forgiven? Do you truly believe you have passed from death unto life or will You believe what the world wants you to?
Good scriptures!
Wow…lengthy
The Gospel !
Two thousand five hundred years before Darby’s lived, Isaiah wrote of a pre-tribulation resurrection. A resurrection of joy and singing. A resurrection that was followed by an invitation to his people to:
“Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.”
The dead - and those raised to life - aren’t in need of shelter from the LORD’s wrath; but those who are alive and remain are. Regardless, there is zero doubt that there will be a resurrection of joy and singing that occurs BEFORE his wrath is poured out on the inhabitants of the earth.
Don’t let the blind lead you into a ditch.
@@mephi654 Amen! This guy is a nut job driven by Satan himself.
So was Isaiah speaking to Israel or to the church concerning this passage? Because Israel & the church have two separate paths according to dispensationalism.
@@nicktorea4017 Agreed my friend. These are 2 separate raptures during the end times. 1 for Church and 2 for the Jews.
@@nicktorea4017 I have not heard any speak of dispensationalism in the last 25 years! Now, you have opened a can of worms! Dispensationalism is only held by a few abominations, oh I mean denominations! It is true that God works His Wonders differently according to the greatest need for that particular person, people group or church at a particular time, but to impose a theory as a fact shows a bias towards a denominationalism instead of just basking in the Light that we have now, and telling everyone the Goodness of our Lord and Savior. Dispensationalism divides the church as there is no mention of it in the Bible except the author of Hebrews who stated that God does work differently for each individual that loves His Son: Heb. 1:1,2. However, Paul stated, "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, now and forever." (loose interpretation). Therefore, dispensationalism is a subject that pestors have stopped preaching because of the division it causes. Focus on what matters, faith, hope, and of course Love, because love is the greatest because, "God is Love!" Leave dispensationalism to the scribes, Sadducees, and Pharisees who love to add to His Word, even though Rev. states we will be cursed by doing so! Hope you make it!
@@nicktorea4017 Uhh, no that is not dispensationalism. Under dispensatinalsim ALL in Christ, both Jew an Gentiles are one body. The fulfillment of Gods promises to Israel come AFTER the church age in the 1000 year reign. So yes its true Gods plan for Israel and the church are different, but ALL those in the church age who are in Christ 9JEW AND GENTILE) are one body.
Pretrib is biblical. The command is to be looking for the return of Christ not the appearance of antichrist. The church is never mentioned after chapter 3 in revelation.
Pretrib is a myth from hell
Just because the focus is somewhere else doesnt mean the church is not there anymore. Its spoken enough times about the saints after chapter 4 though
@@jimness3760JESUS TAUGHT PRE-TRIB, DUH!
As a 67-year old Bible teacher, I teach what both the Old Testament and the New testament teach: that unless the Church is removed 7 years prior to Christ’s return-to finish the final seven years of Daniel’s (490-year) 70 “weeks” prophecy (Daniel 9:24-27, Matthew 24:15)-national Israel CANNOT be saved.
To repeat: the Church, the in-dwelling Holy Spirit and the gospel of the Cross must be removed via the pre-Tribulation Rapture-for SEVEN YEARS-before Jesus can return and save Israel into Christ’s 1,000-year Kingdom.
BTW, if you know your first century Church history-and obviously you don’t-then you’d already know from church records (like the DIDACHE) that Jesus (Matthew 24:14-15, John 10:16) taught a pre-Tribulation Rapture, and also Paul, who wrote both 1 and 2 Thessalonians, specifically to explain a pre-Tribulation Rapture to the Thessalonian church, after demonic Biblically-ignorant FALSE PROPHETS and heretical SCOFFERS attempted to sow discord on the Church…
…in exactly the same way as you. 👿
@@davidrosen3736Anyone saved AFTER the Rapture are called Tribulation Saints or the Tribulation “elect”. They are not the Church. They refused the Cross…thus, they’ve been left behind. They are the bridesmaids, mentioned in Matthew 25:1…they are not the Bride.
BTW, all Believers over the oats 6,000 years are called the “elect”…the faithful from the Old Testament, the current Church age, the 7 years after the Rapture, and in the 1,000 year kingdom.
Thus, the word ELECT is not exclusive to the Church.
The command to be looking for the return of Christ was for Jesus' disciples at that specific time. Remember that Jesus not only told His disciples that their generation would not pass away until "all these things take place," but also that "some standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in His Kingdom." That "coming" happened in AD 70. It was not what you call the "Second Coming," which is a term that does not exist in Scripture. It was the establishment of Christ's Kingdom on Earth. The Bible does not say Jesus will establish His Kingdom on the last day. It says He will hand over His Kingdom to His Father on the last day. Our marching orders are not to be watching for the return of Christ. Our marching orders are to make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in His Name, and teaching them to obey all that He commanded.
I think you're wrong - and we're all entitled to our opinions -- right?
@john Bresnik - Yes, of course. The maxim applies: “In essentials unity; in nonessentials, liberty; and in all things, charity.”
Rapture explained in 10 minutes at The Lord's Day Ministry.
I don’t know how a person can read Matthew 24 and ever come up with a pre tribulation rapture. Jesus himself tells us when it will happen in verse 29. “Immediately after the tribulation” What is it about “after” that so many Christians just don’t understand. It doesn’t mean before and it doesn’t mean in the middle it simply means after.
Jesus was talking to four of his disciples who asked him the question of what will be the sign of his coming and when will it happen. Jesus answered both these questions for them.
Were they able to understand what Jesus was saying, go and check with Marks account and Lukes account and read what they said. They have no doubt as to what Jesus had said so here we have two independent witnesses testifying of their understanding.
I believed in a pre trib rapture for over 70 years until I thought I would do my own research as to whether it was pre trib or post trib. It finally hit me as though it was hidden there all the time in plain sight. I still wonder to this day how on earth did I not see this earlier on.
Either you believe what John Nelson Darby said or you believe what Jesus himself said. No contest.
Would you mind sharing why you held to a pretribulational rapture belief for so long?
@@Acrosurge I only held that belief because I grew up with it and knew nothing else. Eventually I wondered why there were other opinions and decided to do an indepth study on the subject. I had to come to the conclusion that my beliefs were completely wrong and that was hard for me to accept. The truth sets you free.
I agree. I was the same way until I started questioning things in my 30s. In Matthew 24:34, Jesus says the "great tribulation" happened in the first century (before AD70). See Luke chapter 21 (and verse 32) also. Most of Revelation was also written apocalyptically about events in the first century. Read the Bible and start with "Last Days Madness" by Gary Demar to get a fresh Biblical perspective on the "last days".
@@miltonalexander6769 who is the Apostle to the Gentiles? Do you know? The one appointed by Christ in due time to reveal mysteries?
@@Buzz-rh4dz It was Paul the apostle. However I can't see the relevance of your text to the subject under discussion the pre tribulation rapture.
Challenging pre-trib will cost you friends. Some folks cling to this like their very salvation.
🙏 But we still keep the door open and find ways to encourage them to come along side the teachings of Jesus and the Scriptures.
So true! I just had my mom chase me fists high because I told her there will be no rapture only a 2nd coming
@@Brenda-ny1gw The “catching up” harpazo is the rapture no matter when it occurs. There is always a rapture of the saints.
So let em hate
We were pretrib until we heard out loud why pretrib teachers determined that view. So many red flags begin to wave and fly off the pole. This caused us to dig in deep and research. Upon our result thus far we are neither pre nor mid according to our searching of the scriptures and historical research. We didn't quite fit fully in with the post-trib theory but recently found out a little more about the pre-wrath. For right now, pre-wrath is where we pretty much identify with what lines up to our research.
Pre wrath is most definitely the biblical view. I’m baffled how this video seemed to be completely debunking by pre trib by saying there is no tribulation at all. There will without a doubt be a final tribulation and the church is here for it. How he can think 70AD can fit anything in revelation is baffling. Jesus said everything in the psalms, prophets and law of Moses MUST be fulfilled. If that’s the case there HAS to be a 3rd temple and there has to be a milleniel reign. And how can he claim nobody repents on his arrival when Joel 2 says that many do and he relents. So many people don’t read the Old Testament.
@@kingsolomon3175 There simply is no such thing as pre-wrath in the Bible, only 'the wrath of God'. And this wrath of God came upon His Lamb on the cross.
IT IS FINISHED!
Also there is NO rapture, although the word appears in the Bible. Matt 5:5
The book of Revelation was fulfilled at the cross of Jesus. 70 AD. Also it was written for the people of Israel only, not for us living after the cross.
Yes, Jesus did say everything written in the Psalms, prophets & law was appointed on Him, but that was brought into fulfilling at the cross.
'For the Christ is the END of the law. And because of Him, God HAS transferred His perfect righteousness to all who BELIEVE'. Rom 10:4
No, there simply is NO 3rd temple to be built any place on earth, as wé are His holy temple, His sanctuary, His dwelling place! Christ is living in and thru us. Col 1:26-27.. and from out thís holy temple He will soon manifest His final appearances as 1Thes 4:13-18 have it! (we symbolic are the clouds).
Repent on His arrival ?? Definitely no, as this is what we are looking to, His final appearances! What is there to repent of if Jesus already has dealt with the sin of the world with the promise never to think of that ever again??
John 1:29 + 3:16,17
Hebr 8:12 + 10:17
No my brother in Christ, we are the righteousness* of God in Christ. (as if we've never sinned). This is the gift of the Father. How precious. 'As He is, so are we in this world'. 1John 4:17
We have been declared holy by His word, and we receive this gracefully and try to live a life that's to the glory of His holy name. Save by Hís grace, His love and His faith.
@@eekay5710 Wait how did the Book of Revelations get fulfilled at the cross when it hadn't been written yet i think you may be confusing Revelations with Daniel.
@@MrWrestlingfan1986
Both Rev and the book of Daniel has been fulfilled at the cross of Jesus.
Abraham saw the cross long before Jesus was cruicified.. visions! 'Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day, and he saw it and was glad'. John 8:56
Most Christians believe that the books of Daniel, Rev and Matt 24 is for the future, while it was speaking of the people of Israel. Acts 2:16-21
Peter preached to thém and warned thém with the following words.. 'And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation". Acts 2:40
The cross are the end. We as believers in Jesus Christ has come to the beginning' where their is no end'.
The biggest revelation was given to Paul.. Christ within us! Col 1:26-27
@@eekay5710IF this were true, in what millennia were there no wars nor weapons?
I find it absolutely amazing that an intellect like this actually implies J.N. Darby as being the one who devised the pretrib Rapture.
He really ought to contact Lee Brainard, who has discovered dozens of ECFs who taught the pretrib Rapture.
Yes, folks check out Lee W. Brainard’s book (Recent Pre-Trib Findings in the Early Church Fathers).
Lee is doing a superb job in finding more ECF's that support the Pretrib doctrine.
The 'Bible Answer Man' would do well to actually believe what the Bible states. But I suspect his pride would never allow it.
Who cares!!!! The early church believed Jesus would return any second, supporting the "be ready" and pretrib. conclusion. Whether we are pre, mid, or post is a wrong question to ask anyway. The real question is are we ready!
@@jayveebee1076 All we ask is for the Answer Man give actual scriptures that back up his theories and stop giving us his opinions!
One day, messiah will arrive in Jerusalem. He will sit in the throne of David at the newly constructed temple.
He will establish world peace, beginning with a covenant between the Middle Eastern nations.
The chosen people of God will bow before him and Christians will follow suit.
While the world basks in the glory of Christ, a light will shine in the East.
The true Christ Jesus will return and the nations will mourn. They will cry for the rocks to fall on them, but death will flee from them.
Why?
Because when Jesus returns we will be all be changed “in the twinkling of an eye” into our spiritual bodies.
The only death then will be at the white throne judgement for those not found written in The Lamb’s Book of Life.
If you don’t think Satan can’t deceive you into thinking he is Jesus Christ and ruin your salvation, remember, he deceived a third of God’s own angels who stood before his very throne.
The Antichrist arrives in Jerusalem first. At the 6th seal, 6th trump and 6th vial.
That’s why the scripture says to “enumerate” the number of the man to know who he will be. “666”
Jesus Christ returns at the last/7th trump, AFTER Antichrist and his tribulation on mankind.
2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4 KJV
1st Corinthians 15:52 KJV
Let he who have eyes see, and he who have ears hear.
If you can receive this, and you can see the truth, you are not blinded by the “strong delusion”, you are one of God’s elect.
Receive God’s Truth
DO NOT BE DECEIVED BY SATAN
well written
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh Thank you for teaching God’s truth
Amen. That is what I read in scripture.
Yes your on point. Stay steady and steadfast keep your eye on the Target Yeshua
Unbelievers will be on the earth after the rapture of the church. These people will have the opportunity to place their faith in Jesus. This man is a preterist who ignores the passages in the Bible that describe the rapture and the 7 year tribulation.
One thing is for sure, at the 3 1/2 year mark believer will be protected in the wilderness during tribulation Rev 12:6, mid - trib perhaps
yes the wilderness experience for the church
Noah and Lot were protected so why wouldn't God's elect be protected? Moses and company were protected by God.
i haven't believed in a pre or mid trib rapture for quite a while after being turned off by church after church who elevated the idea that we will avoid tribulation to the same level of reverence as the salvation gospel itself. they often talked more about the 'rapture' than they did about the gospel. and we were not allowed to even QUESTION the pre-mid rapture when it clearly made no sense to us
I know!!! I have several friends who believe in magical thinking , they will not have to go through any persecution
@@franciegwin The tribulation is not just persecution, it's the *wrath of God* being poured out on the earth!
Revelation 6:16-17; 14:19; 15:1, 7; 16:1; 19:15.
See 1 Thessalonians 1:10; & 5:9.
The children of God are delivered *from* His wrath. Yes, we are to suffer persecution for the name of Christ. But we are *not* appointed to suffer the wrath of God against the wicked!
Who says it’s easy way out? We already suffer enough on this earth, glad we only live once because I can not do it all over again. The problem if we’re still on earth during the wrath of God on what is written in Revelation then we are susceptible to the mark of the beast. What for Christ died for us? He revealed His mystery in Eph 1:11-14 The Holy Spirit sealed us guaranteeing our inheritance until the day of redemption. Rev 14:9 says those who accept the sign of the beast will not enter the kingdom of God. Doesn’t make sense right? those who refuse still be save through doctrine of Grace. No one knows when He comes again but one thing is sure, it’s soon!
@@judylloyd7901 In neither I Thessalonians 1:10 nor 5:9 is there any mention of "the tribulation." The "wrath" that Paul is taking about is in contrast to salvation. He is specifically talking about the Day of the Lord (5:2) which comes as a thief in the night. This is Jesus' Second Coming, NOT an event seven years prior to that. According to Joel and Isaiah, the Day of the Lord happens AFTER the darkening of the sun, moon and stars. And according to Jesus, the darkening of the sun, moon and stars happens AFTER "the tribulation of those days." In other words, the order of events is this:
1) the tribulation of those days, THEN
2) the darkening of the sun, moon and stars, THEN
3) the Day of the Lord, which comes suddenly, without warning, and ends in the destruction of the wicked. (Prior to this time, unbelievers, who live in darkness, will be eating and drinking, and marrying and being given in marriage, just as in the days of Noah, unaware of the events which will soon come. Believers however are not in darkness that that day should overtake them. Jesus tells us in Luke's gospel, "WHEN you see these things, look up for your redemption draws near. ("These things" are signs in the sun, moon and stars, distress of nations, men's hearts failing for fear, the shaking of the powers of heavens). There is no such thing as an "imminent" rapture that can happen at any time. What the Bible teaches is ONE coming that will take unbelievers by surprise. They will not be looking for the signs and will be caught by surprise. When we are told to "watch," it is not talking about watching for a rapture. It means that we are to be on guard, to be diligent, lest we fall into temptation and deception. Dispensationalist love to twist the meaning of Scripture to suit their own agenda. (e.g. by conflating the terms "wrath" and "tribulation," changing the meaning of words such as "apostasy" and "watch."
Not only that but Paul tells us that "now is the time for judgment for the people of God, and even now"the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven." God's wrath and His judgements have been poured out from the beginning. God's judgments are for the purpose of repentance, but there will come a time when men no longer repent, and it is then that God will pour out His unmitigated wrath on the wicked.
So, no we are not appointed to wrath, but we are appointed to tribulation, even GREAT tribulation. The great tribulation is not "great" because of its intensity, but because of its extent. Persecution and martyrdom in the past has been intermittent and sporadic. In the future it will be continuous and worldwide. Even now we can see the rage building up, and soon it will be directed to God's people. But as Jesus says, though we be killed, not a hair on our heads will perish.
@@judylloyd7901
The wrath of God came on His Lamb some 2,000 yrs ago. IT IS FINISHED!
Revelation was written for the people of Israel, not for us living after the cross.
The message of reconciliation was given to us, not a message which confuse believers or put fear for the unknown in their hearts.
We who believe in the Son of God, we know without any doubt that the Father loves all of us and that no harm will ever be done unto us.
The best advice is to come away from the book of Revelation and Teachers on this book, as 100 teachers will all have their own understanding.
Read the love letters that the Spirit of God has written to us.. John, Ephesians, Colossians etc etc and pay good attention to yr quite time with the Lord Jesus. He is inside of us, do not look outside. For when we look away from Him, we will experience what Peter experienced when he took his eyes off Jesus. Matt 14:22-31
The entire Bible teaches us about the pre-trib rapture. No other doctrine of the rapture accounts for and matches up to everything as perfectly. I pray for those who have allowed satan to snatch their blessed hope away from them.
@lionheartmerrill1069 Respectfully disagree. There is not a single verse telling us there is a pretribulation rapture, i.e., the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millennium.
@@BibleAnswerMan Who came up in Matthew 27:52 and 53? Where did they go after going to the holy city? Perhaps they got "raptured" 10 days before Pentecost with the Lord. 1611 AV of course.
What about being saved DURING the tribulation?
There no such thing The people who are saved are people written in lambs book of life to be saved is to persevere true meaning most likely not a lot of people will that fact is only people sealed with Holy Spirt will survive
This is a stupid reply. People will get saved in the end times. Please don't listen to this clown.
What do the Pre-Tribulation Rapture believers actually believe in? What are the marks to recognise the Pre-Tribulation Rapture theory? I ask this because you made mention of the reconstruction of a Third Temple and re-institution of the physical sacrificial system. Do believers in Pre-Tribulation Rapture believe in that?
We believe the promise from Jesus found in John 14:1-3. Matthew 25:1-13 is not a parable. Jesus will come for His bride before the seals are opened. Revelation 5 clearly shows the redeemed in Heaven watching the lamb open the seals.
No.
"YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT." In my humble experience, there is much pride found in those coming against rapture. They often call names and get very angry. They insist those who believe in the pre tribulation rapture think they are better than others and stupid to think they can get into heaven without dying for Christ. They create fear and confusion. The truth is, millions have been saved throughout history without dying a horrible death for Christ. Why some had to, is for the Living God Jesus to decide. "What's it to you if I want him kept alive until I come back?" The truth is the saved Christian can and does suffer each day on this wicked dying planet. The truth is true belief Jesus Christ crucified and risen is more than enough to be saved. It is the ONLY requirement. The idea you must suffer and die for your salvation is blatantly blasphemous. Period. For all their anger and insistence they are right and we all must die to be worthy, the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and HIS Worthyness stands. In Jesus' Name. Amen.
Name the scholars, pastors, teachers, etc. that taught or preached on the (7) year pre-tribulation rapture before 1830... I have searched for over (3) years and can find NONE. John Wycliffe, Martin Luther, and Sir Issac Newton did NOT believe in this theory.
Amen. We are NOT appointed to WRATH at all. We are told to WATCH. We certainly don’t have to watch for the Second Coming. How silly. That day is easy to figure out. The only reason to watch is because it’s a PRETRIBULATION RAPTURE.
I CANNOT WAIT!
Amen! ❤
Preterist are just as much dangerous as pre tribulation rapture and they are false. Pre millennium post tribulation rapture is historically and biblically true.
@@bcsprideLuk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Wow, this is new to me 😮. Definitely something I need look into! One thing that I’m confused about is that he kept mentioning that the belief in the rapture is that “Jews” will be left behind, but that is not correct. The belief is that ANYONE who hasn’t accepted Christ as Savior would be left behind...atheist, agnostic, new age believers, etc. Looks like it’s time for me to rethink it all and do some more research!
Yep, do some digging. I am not pretrib, but they do ask some interesting questions have gotten me to think about things, so I will give them that credit.
Hi Karin, Revelation is written to church not modern Israel, and is this last time we are until Christ returns again in One phase, Visible to all on earth Second Coming. There will be no second chance for Jews or Gentiles who don't receive Him in this urgent time. Much need for sincere evangelism by Word and Spirit.
*5 REASONS WHY YOU WILL GO TO HELL BECAUSE OF THIS VIDEO:*
1)
*Because of your UNBELIEF.* The same sort of UNBELIEF IN GOD"S DELIVERING POWER that saw Israel not allowed into the Promised Land. That you your fate, as Hebrews 3-4 show, as it clearly shows you will be LEFT {OUT} OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN FOR THAT SAME {UNBELIEF} IN GOD'S DELIVERING POWER, which is His Rapture. You will share the same fate as Israel. But yours is worst. You will not be left out of a physical land, but spiriutal paradise.
.... and don't lie to yourself about being "Christian" or "believing in Jesus" or "covered under His blood." ISRAEL was the "seed of promised" and "believed in Yahweh" more than you, and were "covered under the blood of the Passover Lamb and the sacrifices." Didn't save them. Wont save you, Gentile!
2)
*Because Amos alrady condemns you," speaking a 'woe' against all who desire to see the Day of the Lord. No one escape a woe. No one.
3)
*Because you SIN AGINST GOD!* You would have been better off being a murder, or rapist, or homosexual. Those things are just 'sin,' but all who SIN {{AGAINST}} GOD will be blot out of His Book, as God clearly told Moses. That is the product of your UNBELIEF. You are offensive. You sin directly against God's very Character.
-calling Him weak
-calling Him unfaithful
-calling Him unjust
-accusing Him of being an abusive husband
-saying He will send DEMONS (locusts) upon His entire Church for 5 months!
-spitting on the testimony of Abraham
-spitting on the testimony of Job
-mocking His deliverance of Lot who was "snatched away"
-mocking the deliverance of Noah who was "lifted up"
JUST. LIKE. ISREAL!
Your unbelief is taking personally by Him, because it is OFFENSIVE to His Character and is SIN against Him!
4)
Because you evil hypocrites distort every Scripture you touch, especially Matthew 24 and I Thess 4 ... not even knowing that Matthew 24 is a TWO FOLD QUESTION with TWO answers
-Matthew 24v5-14: end time signs that the terminal generation Church looks for that lead up to the *RAPTURE*
-Matthew 24v15-31: all things Jewish, and Jesus clearly has shifted His attention from the Church to the Jews who will be left behind! events that lead up to the *SECOND COMING!*
Yeah ... you are that easily disproven. You distort many Scriptures, and as Peter say, to your own damnation!
5)
Becuase, assuming you are a Post-Tribber, the EVIL SERVANT at the end of Matthew 24 has all 4 characteristics of a Post Tribber ... and it ends with you in Hellfire. Jesus even rightfully uses the word "hypocrite" instead of "sinner" ... cause you ARE fake Christians. Sinners against God's very character. Distorters of His Word. UNBELIEVERS>
And what is the polar opposite of FAITH? *UNBELIEF!*
5 reasons why you are doomed.
Now, you wanna go 5 more reasons!? Or do you want 5 reasons why there IS a Pre-Tribulation Rapture (I won't even include Matthew 24, cause I just explained it by refuting the ignorance about it)?
Go watch Amir Tsfarti. Also great Rapture teaching on Prophecy Watchers, Olive Tree Ministries and Jack Hibbs. Also Andy Woods. The Rapture is true.
Part 1 - I will have to post this in two posts due to length. I apologize for that, but if we want to seek truth, we must be thorough in reconciling all of God's Word.
“In religion, as in war and everything else, comfort is the one thing you cannot get by looking for it. If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end: if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth-only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin with and, in the end, despair.” C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity
Truth = facts.
The rapture is right where Paul, as a prophet, said it would be. He painted a neon sign and said, “Here it is,” and yet we still miss it. It is at the last trumpet, the seventh trumpet, right where he said it would be. For truth, let’s look at the facts.
1) The seven year period of time is never referred to in Scripture as “the tribulation.” Never. That is an appellation that has been applied by pre-tribbers to equate tribulation with God’s wrath. The Bible refers to it in the Book of Daniel as the 70th week out of 70 weeks. (A week being a seven year period). The only use of the word tribulation to this time is when Christ referred to a period of time during the second half of the 70th week, beginning with the abomination of desolation as the great tribulation. And He also says that this time of great tribulation will be cut short. How is the great tribulation cut short? The wholesale killing of those who will not take the mark will stop before the 1260 days are over, so that some of the elect will remain alive. The reign of the antichrist will continue, however. It will be shown what causes this stopping of killing. As will be seen, this allows for the trumpets to occur during the rest of that time.
2) Tribulation and wrath are not synonymous. Tribulation is the word “thlipsis” and means persecution. We ARE appointed to tribulation. John 16:33, Acts 14:22. The House of God (Christians) must undergo a fiery trial before the appearance of Christ. 1 Peter 4:12-13,17 “Beloved, think it not strange concerning the FIERY TRIAL (“peirasmon” a putting to the proof) which is to TRY YOU (put you to the proof) as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, WHEN HIS GLORY SHALL BE REVEALED, (at the Second Coming) ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. For the time is come that JUDGMENT MUST BEGIN AT THE HOUSE OF GOD: and if it FIRST BEGIN AT US, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?” God punished and tried Israel for their apostasy. He will also do so to the apostate church. (2Thess. 2:3 there will be a falling away [“apostasia”] from God’s truth) and Dan. 11:35 (purging). God will not persecute His enemies, He will simply destroy them, but His enemies have and always will persecute God’s children. Wrath on the other hand are the words “orge” or “thumos” and mean violent passion or an outburst of passionate wrath. We are not appointed to God’s wrath, but we are to expect Satan’s persecution. God tells us that the saints (in the New Testament, Christians are the saints) will be given over to the beast. Dan. 7:25, Rev. 13:7. Non Christians are not dying during the great trib. They have taken the mark and are fine. This is not God's wrath. The 5th seal is not God’s wrath, for the only ones dying are Christians and the martyrs ask God when He will begin to pour out His vengeance or wrath. He replies that they must wait first for the rest of the Christians who must be martyred as they were. The people on the sea of glass that come out of the great tribulation are those martyrs. Rev. 7:14. It is the worst holocaust in the history of the world. Dan. 12:1. They are the overcomers, those who obey God’s commandments and have the testimony of Jesus, who did not love their lives unto death, that Satan goes after. Rev. 12:11,17. Six out of the seven churches in Revelation are not promised protection. They are told to be overcomers. Only a remnant of the church of Philadephians who have kept the word of God's patience qualify to be protected and eventually raptured. They are kept from the "temptation" which means to be “put to the proof”. God is putting us to the proof by giving us a time of testing for the sake of purging the apostate church. Dan. 11:35.
3) The Day of the Lord is another name for God’s wrath. Joel and Acts tell us that there is a very specific sign that will occur BEFORE the Day of the Lord, or God’s wrath can begin, to warn us it is coming. “And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE that great and notable day of the Lord come.” These very unique signs (both the sun and moon go dark - moon turns red) occur at the same time. This describes a double eclipse which can only occur due to an outside celestial body that has come between the sun and the moon and earth, creating eclipses of both the sun and the moon simultaneously. This sign is said to occur BEFORE the Day of the Lord. It is an omen of the coming wrath of God. How far in advance it comes is not stated in Scripture.
4) This particular sign of the double eclipse is seen in Seal 6 of Revelation. In fact at that time, people recognize and shout for fear that the Day of the Lord is coming, because these signs herald its approach. This is not a statement from heaven that the Day of the Lord has begun, because Christ’s coming initiates the Day of the Lord, and He does not return until the end of the 70th week. It is a warning, though, that God’s wrath is definitely on its way. So God’s wrath does not include the seals.
5) In Matthew 24:29, Christ puts these same celestial signs after the great tribulation is cut short, putting God’s wrath after the great tribulation is over. Hence God’s wrath does not begin until after the great tribulation.
6) We are not appointed to wrath. 1 Thess. 5:9. As God’s wrath cannot begin until after these celestial signs, there is no reason to remove Christians before God’s wrath begins, for we are not exempt from persecution and martyrdom. Therefore we will be here through the great tribulation. Well, those who are alive and remain will be. The rest will be killed.
7) Paul gave the exact sequence of events in 2 Thess. 2:1-4. “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, (2nd Coming) AND (meaning they are together and in order) by OUR GATHERING TOGETHER UNTO HIM, (resurrection/rapture). [note the chronological order] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (also known as the Day of the Lord, but from a Christian’s point of view instead of the wicked’s point of view) is at hand. [This couples all three events together as happening at the same time. Christ’s Second Coming, the rapture followed by the Day of the Lord]. LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU (pre-tribbers have allowed themselves to be deceived even with this warning and the laying out of the chronology) by any means: for that day (What day? The Day of the Lord wherein Christ returns and resurrects/raptures the saints) shall not come, EXCEPT there come a falling away (apostasia - Gr. Meaning departure from the truth, not departure from a location) FIRST, (before any of the other stuff can happen) and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, (this is the abomination of desolation) shewing himself that he is God.” These verses were telling them that the Day of the Lord wherein Christ returns and raptures them could not be yet, for before that happens, there must be an apostasy in the Church and the antichrist declare himself to be God. This is clear and straightforward. Why do people distort it?
8) Christ must remain in heaven at the right hand of God until His foes are made His footstool. Acts 2:34-35. As long as Satan and the beast reign, His foes are not His footstool. They have 42 months from the abomination. Rev. 13:5.
9) Christ must remain in heaven until the restitution of all things (including the kingdoms of God being given to Christ). Acts. 3:21. As long as Satan is the prince and power of this world, there is no restitution. Satan has until the end of Daniel's 70th week. Christ cannot return until then.
10) Christ destroys the antichrist with the brightness of His coming. Thess. 2:8. That is His Second Coming at the end of the forty-two months. If Christ’s appearance destroys the reign of the antichrist, and the kingdoms of the world are restored to Christ’s control, it can only happen after the antichrist’s reign of 42 months, not before. Christ cannot return until the end of Daniel's 70th week. He cannot return before then, for His coming destroys the beast.
Revelation 3:10. "From"
We are not children of wrath.
The wrath Paul talks about is not the Bowls. He may not have even known about those. No. He is talking in context about the wrath poured out on the wicked, who experience the Day of the Lord as a thief (see the context of 1 Thess. 5:1-3). They receive sudden destruction at the coming of Christ. See also 2 Thess. 1:6-8, which says the church receives rest from persecutions when Jesus comes and pours out wrath on the wicked.
That' true, The wrath in view is the wrath in hell not on earth.
There is a tribulation orchestrated by Satan thru the antichrist and then the wrath of God to avenge those who were killed or persecuted during the tribulation and other periods in life
The Holy Spirit completely changed my understanding of His second coming about 30 years ago. I don't go around advertising that I don't believe in a pre tribulation rapture, but only share it when He opens the door, tells me who to share the truth with, and He did just that about 30 minutes ago. Thank you for sharing this, it's something I'll forward t her as confirmation of my own words.
Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:52 - In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
We are changed at the LAST TRUMP and where is this found?
In REVELATION, the LAST BOOK of the Bible there are 7 trumps and the 7th trump is the LAST ONE and is at the end of the tribulation. there is not a 7th last trump prior to the tribulation.
It wasnt Holy Spirit, but a spirit of deception who stole your hope and in turn you pass along your lack of faith in God's promises of rescuing the righteous before pouring His wrath out on the wicked
@@jbsikes6841 these deceivers never have any content on their channel, nor do they share any Bible scriptures to prove their point. They can not since there are no clear verses that prove the pre trib rapture as being true. it is a lie people. 10 of the 12 apostles died for their faith.
There are many more who have died than 10. This proves nothing. The nature and character of God is to rescue the righteous before pouring out Hos wrath on the ungodly. This has nothing to do with persecution.
This is why you dont get it.
Also the rapture is not the second coming, which is His glorious appearing when every eye shall see him.
@@jbsikes6841 thanks for the zero bible verses for proof since you have none.
No truth in the man if he claims the early Church didn't preach, write and believe in the Doctrine of Eminence aka pre-trib Rapture.
Genesis to Revelation HE has two separate plans being the "Time of the Gentiles be fulfilled; Lk. 21:24 then the 70th week of Daniel be consummated; Dan. 9:24-27.
Pre-Trib verses:
Isa. 19:19-21
Jn. 14:1-3
1st Thess. 4:14-18, 5:9
2nd Thess. 2:1-7
Rev. 2:22, 3:10, 6:11, 12:5, 12:7-12
Dan. 9:27
Jude 14
Zech. 14:15
Mat. 24:36-43, 25:1-13
1st Cor. 15:51-53
Baloney
@@jimness3760 LOL. You're a foolish virgin.
show the scriptures that disprove or prove please.
Totally agree.
Christ showed me when I was 16 years old the end times and tribulation. I saw pastors cursing God's name, being attacked/blamed by their congregation for preaching pre-trib rapture. Bro Sadhu Sundar also said he used to preach pre-trib rapture but Jesus lead him to verses and corrected him. Also check out FAI's 4 reasons we don't believe in pre-trib rapture.
I do not believe in pre-tribulation rapture and it's never mentioned in the Bible. We’re told that we will be persecuted and we must stand firm unto death in out believe in Christ and to overcome the devil so that we can receive the crown of life. We’re told not to accept the mark of the beast or worship him so why would we have to refuse if we’re raptured before that happens? The Bible also says that Christ won't return until the "Falling Away" happens first and Jesus asks, "will I really find faith on the earth in those days?" So if the falling away happens and there's no faith, who will be left to suddenly be raptured? Christ also said the dead in Christ would be raised first and then the living in Christ would be raised. If you read the Bible and note down the chain of events, you'll see that the rapture of the dead and then the living doesn't happen until well into the Tribulation and after true Christians suffer through persecution, deny satan's mark of the beast and be put in jail from refusing satan. What Christians will keep their faith if they lose everything and are put in jail?
When tribulation truly comes and God's wrath begins to pour out, there will be major nation wide disasters such as CA earthquake and World War III will break out. This will cause the current Christians that didn't get raptured before tribulation to blame God and attack their pastors for lying to them about being raptured before suffering and they’ll all curse God’s name. This is the great falling away.
If you read Revelation and get a notepad to note down the chain of events, you'll see when the rapture actually happens.
Show me one verse using the Bible where it states that believers in Christ will be raptured before Tribulation. Even God's people had to trust God and be delivered out of pharaoh's hands while God destroyed him.
Even the two witnesses will be killed in the street before we're raptured and they'll be resurrected to life after three and a half days causing great fear upon those that see it.
Here's proof that there's no rapture until after the Falling Away and the Antichrist claims to be God and causes all to receive his mark:
2 Thessalonians 2
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Proof that there won't be any faith in the earth by then: "I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall He find faith on the earth?" - Luke 18:8
Proof that we will go through Tribulation and be persecuted for believing in Christ:
Matthew 10:17
"But beware of men, for they will hand you over to the courts and scourge you in their synagogues;"
Matthew 24:9
“Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.
Luke 21:12
“But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and will persecute you, delivering you to the synagogues and prisons, bringing you before kings and governors for My name’s sake."
John 15:20
"Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also."
John 16:2
"They will make you outcasts from the synagogue, but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God."
2 Timothy 3:12
"Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted."
Revelation 2:10
"Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life."
Revelation 3:5
5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who remain, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore, comfort one another with these words.
Your "proof texts" totally scramble passages as you apply them incorrectly.
You use Mat 10:17... in Mat 10 Jesus instructs His disciples to NOT GO into the way of the Gentiles but to go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And of course, in the passage people have to "endure to the end to be saved." But you would have people believe the church is being discussed. No, as Jesus said, it's the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL Who will be witnesses to ISRAEL during the great tribulation? The 144,000 JEWS from the 12 tribes of Israel witnessing to other Jews. The tribulation witnesses are comprised of 144,000 male Jewish virgins, NOT the church.
You mention Rev 2:10 where the Christians have to deal with tribulation for TEN DAYS. That isn't the great tribulation. You mention other Rev verses - but they are all PRIOR to the beginning of the great tribulation - they have nothing to do with it. In John 4 John is caught up to the third heaven - picturing the rapture of the church - and during the great tribulation in Revelation the church isn't even mentioned. The church is mentioned again in Rev 19 AFTER the great tribulation is over.
You mention John 16:2. Christians don't go to synagogues, JEWS go to synagogues. Christians attend local CHURCHES.
You use Mat 24 - and here we see again the requirement to endure to the end to be saved - it's not about the church.
And in many cases, you cite verses that mention persecution - as if the term was synonymous with the time of great tribulation, which is the time of Jacob's trouble. Persecution =/= great tribulation. Christians have been persecuted since day one and they will continue to be persecuted. This ongoing persecution of individual Christians throughout the centuries has absolutely nothing to do with God pouring out wrath on Israel during the time of Jacob's trouble.
1)
*Because of your UNBELIEF.* The same sort of UNBELIEF IN GOD"S DELIVERING POWER that saw Israel not allowed into the Promised Land. That you your fate, as Hebrews 3-4 show, as it clearly shows you will be LEFT {OUT} OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN FOR THAT SAME {UNBELIEF} IN GOD'S DELIVERING POWER, which is His Rapture. You will share the same fate as Israel. But yours is worst. You will not be left out of a physical land, but spiriutal paradise.
.... and don't lie to yourself about being "Christian" or "believing in Jesus" or "covered under His blood." ISRAEL was the "seed of promised" and "believed in Yahweh" more than you, and were "covered under the blood of the Passover Lamb and the sacrifices." Didn't save them. Wont save you, Gentile!
2)
*Because Amos already condemns you," speaking a 'woe' against all who desire to see the Day of the Lord. No one escape a woe. No one.
3)
*Because you SIN AGINST GOD!* You would have been better off being a murder, or rapist, or homosexual. Those things are just 'sin,' but all who SIN {{AGAINST}} GOD will be blot out of His Book, as God clearly told Moses. That is the product of your UNBELIEF. You are offensive. You sin directly against God's very Character.
-calling Him weak
-calling Him unfaithful
-calling Him unjust
-accusing Him of being an abusive husband
-saying He will send DEMONS (locusts) upon His entire Church for 5 months!
-spitting on the testimony of Abraham
-spitting on the testimony of Job
-mocking His deliverance of Lot who was "snatched away"
-mocking the deliverance of Noah who was "lifted up"
JUST. LIKE. ISREAL!
Your unbelief is taking personally by Him, because it is OFFENSIVE to His Character and is SIN against Him!
4)
*Because you evil hypocrites distort every Scripture you touch,* especially Matthew 24 and I Thess 4 ... not even knowing that Matthew 24 is a TWO FOLD QUESTION with TWO answers
-Matthew 24v5-14: end time signs that the terminal generation Church looks for that lead up to the *RAPTURE*
-Matthew 24v15-31: all things Jewish, and Jesus clearly has shifted His attention from the Church to the Jews who will be left behind! events that lead up to the *SECOND COMING!*
Yeah ... you are that easily disproven. You distort many Scriptures, and as Peter say, to your own damnation!
5)
*Because, assuming you are a Post-Tribber, the EVIL SERVANT at the end of Matthew 24 has all 4 characteristics of a Post Tribber* ... and it ends with you in Hellfire. Jesus even rightfully uses the word "hypocrite" instead of "sinner" ... cause you ARE fake Christians. Sinners against God's very character. Distorters of His Word. UNBELIEVERS>
And what is the polar opposite of FAITH? *UNBELIEF!*
You can add blaspheming the Holy Spirit and you claim your idiot 'dream' was FROM God.
Using the Lord's name in vain? What a foolish person you are.
This the reason, why I don't attend any church anymore: they all claim to abide by the Bible, but interpret it in various ways. So I stay home and study the Bible myself after praying for wisdom and discernment and I shall continue to do so, because it helps me stay close to Yeshua and keeps me from getting confused.
@@DonCornelius366 You are a spiteful Christian . This is a secondary issue and your condemnation is uncalled for ! !
You are also wrong ... I might add ! !
Revelation 22:20-21
[20] He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
[21] The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.
Why I believe the rapture and return are two seperate events. I've really studied this, comparing the pre and post tribulation position with just the word alone.
Could I humbly suggest, Compare Jesus Glorious return at the end of the apocalyptic seals, bowls, Trumpets, third of all life destroyed, wormwood, plagues, boils etc etc
with
Jesus saying "just as in the times of Noah and Lot" . Normal everyday life! Does that sound like the end of Armageddon? Clearly He is speaking of two events. There's no way these two, the rapture, as a" thief in the night" and His glorious return are the same.
People definitely won't be giving and taking in marriage and trading as normal on the day of His return. Boot fares and stag parties will be the LAST thing on thier minds. They'll be struggling to survive. Jesus said, "that time will be cut short for the elects sake or else no one would survive it." (The elect are the 144,000 Jews and thier converts saved through the tribulation which is called "Jacobs trouble")
The church is raptured as described in Thessalonians and Corinthians then the Antichrist is revealed who will sign THE agreement (not Trump's!) then 3 1/2 years in he will desecrate the new built temple which will bring in terrible trouble leading to Armageddon at the end of which is the Lords glorious return and sweeping away all evel forever. I hope this helps. I was doubtful too but decided to really study the scriptures. God bless.
The parousia of the Lord includes His "presence" and His physical return. In other words the scope of the word parousia (often rendered "coming") is wider than just His physical return to the earth.
I've been studying as well ibwas in agreement with this until I heard the 17 hour bible study from Andy Woods. Very good arguement just check it out :) also feel free to get back to me and let me know
@@stringerchick3650 I'll check this out indeed. I think it's essential to get it right or we're setting the church up for trouble. Believe me I want a pre rapture but I also am mindful of many who believe in mid or post rapture. Having done many hours study on this and considered the timing and the Greek words used in Thessalonians etc I am fairly sure of a pre rapture. As I read post trib arguments I find myself thinking, "yes but what about....?" Then I recheck what I've studied lol. I'm going through a lengthy post trib position that I've downloaded atm. So far what I've found is, the reasoning is plausible but when cross checking I find certain scriptures are ignored. You can't do that with the word of God. It has to be 'rightly divided'. Any way. I'll check it out. 17 hours?! Phew.
@@stringerchick3650 I've checked out Andy Woods and indeed he explains the biblically based reasons for pre trib very well indeed. I have now completed an examination of the post trib position as taught by Jeffrey A. Mott.
A quick perusal of this work appears to present a very powerful argument for a post tribulation rapture. I'm sure you can access this for yourself on the net.
However on deeper investigation I found that it is on very weak ground. I could list everything here but take to long. However I will deal with just a couple. Mott uses the 'type' of Egypt to show that 'believers' will have to go through the full tribulation as the children of Israel did before Moses (The Lord) finally led them out in a kind of 'rapture' before the Egyptians were judged in the Red sea.
This, at first seems powerful but (comparing scripture with scripture and) by rightly dividing the word of God this is revealed as completely wrong.
Jesus Himself gave us two 'types' as examples: The days of Noah and The days of Sodom and Gomorrah where the believers were clearly absolutely removed before judgement, before tribulatuon. So I'm wondering why Mott used a type that Jesus did not?
I also noticed that Mott ignores scriptures that indicate the tribulatuon is something specifically designated to the Jews. Jeremiah 30 clearly states this is the time of JACOBS trouble.
As I said, there is much more. Indeed, every single point he proposes fails to rightly divide the word of God on the matter.
So, my conclusion from my own studies and diligently studying the post trib position I am thoroughly convinced the rapture will no be at any time, and definitely BEFORE the tribulation.
Yet another deceived prophet of the pre-trib fib.
Armageddon is at the last day.
SEE now?
Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
Those are the pre-trib rapture verses, which if you look at it in its context the only one who goes up is John and he does that in the Spirit, his body is still on the Isle of Patmos.
The Book of Rev comes with two very stern warnings.
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
By saying that Rev 4:1-2 is the rapture of the church when it does not say any such thing, places those who make that claim under the penalty of Rev 22:18-19
The jw's do the same thing with the Book of Revelation, they claim their top people are the 144,000 and by doing so also place themselves under those two penalties.
And there are those who will stubbornly defend Rev 4:1-2 as the rapture,
1Sa 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
Psa 78:8 And might not be as their fathers, a stubborn and rebellious generation; a generation that set not their heart aright, and whose spirit was not stedfast with God.
The cultists will defend their cults, the Mormons, the sda's, and the jw's all defending their dogmas, that is the power of a leader in a church when the people have no reason to think anything is amiss and they drink the false gospel kool-aid as if it was the gospel truth.
that is why we are to do our own due diligence!!!
Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
2Co 13:6 But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates.
Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2Ti 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2Ti 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
We have the availability of the Holy Ghost to guide us into ALL TRUTH, and being guided into all truth so that anything we hold that is not of the truth will be exposed by the Truth that the Holy Ghost will guide us into.
Truth
Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
You on the right track continue walking in faith
“God has not appointed us to wrath” and “then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air” are true. However, using these to support a pre trib rapture is imposing our own meaning onto the text.
Nobody wants to hear this teaching, but what Hank is saying is absolutely true and Biblical. I really enjoyed reading his APOCALYPSE CODE.
Some people don't want to believe the truth, instead they want the escape fantasy! Δόξα στον Θεό
Who are the 24 elders?
@@Alvinthechristian t the twelve patriarchs of Israel and the twelve apostles, who represent the redeemed of both covenants now united in Christ. In Rev. 5:8-9 they do seem to speak on behalf of the redeemed. Also in support for the idea that the 24 elders depict the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 apostles can be seen by the fact that the names of both groups are displayed on the gates and foundations of the New Jerusalem (Revelation 21:12, 14).
Amen. Great read!🙏👍✝️
No one wants to hear it because all we have is Evangelical "Preachers" bombarding the airwaves and spreading the false teachings of Dispensationalism...
In short, they've been brainwashed into believing that that teaching
IS THE BIBLE
And therefore if you don't agree, you are a sinner and a Non-believer.
GREAT TRUTH. THANK YOU.
WHEN JESUS PRAYED HIS PRAYER FOR THE BELIEVERS (church) JOHN 17:
HE SPEAKS TO THE BELIEVERS THEN, AND THOSE WHO WILL ALSO BELIEVE IN HIM IN THE FUTURE.
AND THIS VERSE STANDS OUT FOR ME.
I am not praying that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.
John 17:15 CSB
OH, HOW CAN WE MISS HIS PRAYER FOR THE CHURCH.
"DO NOT TAKE THEM OUT OF THE WORLD.
BUT PROTECT THEM FROM THE EVIL one.
THANK YOU JESUS, YOUR WORD IS TRUTH.
THANK YOU FOR THIS TEACHING
Jesus also said in Matt 5:5
What blessing comes to you when gentleness lives in you! For you will inherit the earth.
Isaiah 26:21 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
Wow thank you , I'm suspicious I've never seen this verse
@@ClassyElegant Leviticus 26:10 And ye shall eat old store, and bring forth the old because of the new.
@B L John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
@B L I am not a (nut); but speak forth the words of truth and soberness.
@B L Learn the meaning of the word (just) according to the holy scriptures: Hosea 14:9 Who is wise, and he shall understand these things? prudent, and he shall know them? for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein.
I use to lean toward the Pre tribulation rapture. It's only in the last year or so I've moved away from the view and believe we (all believers and non believers) will go through the tribulation. Who are Christians to believe we are going to be spared the troubles that the tribulation will bring?
He lost me when he used "recommit"
Rapture explained in 10 minutes at The Lord's Day Ministry.
With all due resect, the title of this video is: "5 Reasons the Pre-Tribulational Theory is Unbiblical." But reason number four says: "4. No Biblical reason for second chance of salvation after the second coming." Aren't these two points separate arguments? I am serious. Then Mr Hanegraff does not give too much credence to the 7th week of Daniel.
Hank is alluding to one of the logical implications and difficulties with premillennialism (whether the dispensational or historic varieties). Namely, after the Lord’s Second Coming during the millennium both resurrected saints (those raised at the beginning of the millennium) will live alongside children born in the millennium, presumably non-resurrected people both sinners and saints. Plus many of them will stand with Satan, after the releasing, and wage a revolution against the throne of Jesus Christ. Moreover, premillennialism implies the millennial saints will have a chance for salvation after Jesus returns and after Satan’s rebelling ending the millennium.
Hank addresses the 70 weeks of Daniel in this article… www.equip.org/article/daniel-prophesy-seven-year-great-tribulation/
Rapture explained in 10 minutes at The Lord's Day Ministry.
Happy Passover brothers and sister....question, what will happen to Christians during the great tribulation?
It will be a time of great destitution, where we will be the enemy of the world. Ironic.
The Christians fled Judea to the mountains north and east of the Jordan in Pella, following Jesus’ instructions for them to flee when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies, and escaped the great tribulation. Remember that Jesus was addressing those living at that time, that “this generation” would see happening. The destruction of the city and the temple happened just as he said it would.
Jeffrey Osburn - I disagree, they asked Him to reveal the signs of "the end", and that wasn't. Besides, they never witnessed many saying, here is Christ, etc. They never had to endure to the end, that wasn't the worst time in history, and when that was over, He didn't came back for them.
Todd Wood You’ll have to disagree with the biblical and historical evidence, not with me. The “end” was not the “end of the world” (kosmos) as translated in the KJV, but the “end of the age” (aionos). The end of the Mosaic system of animal sacrifice and the political-religious state did happen when the city and temple were destroyed, over one million Jews killed, tens of thousands taken captive as slaves, and most others in exile. Josephus, the Jewish eyewitness historian of this desolation, records the rise of scores of false messiahs and false prophets. The Book of Acts records a few as well. These are well documented historical facts. The Christians left Judea and went north to the mountainous region of Perea when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by Roman legions, and so escaped the horrible time of tribulation from 66-73 AD. Jesus returned to judge apostate Israel just as God personally poured out his wrath on their ancestors during the fall of Jerusalem and destruction of Solomon’s temple by the Babylonian army in 586 BC. And the temple was destroyed in 70 AD on the same day of the Jewish calendar, the 9th of Av. Remember, the disciples question was in response to Jesus pronouncing judgement on the Pharisees in the preceding passages to the Olivet Discourse, when he said “your house is left unto you desolate.” They we’re walking away from the temple when the disciples drew Jesus’ attention to the great and expensive stones, to which Jesus replied, “not one stone will be left on top of the other.” This prophecy was fulfilled to the letter. That’s what the biblical and historical record says, not my opinion. It’s a great confirmation of the deity of Christ and the reliability of the Bible.
Jeffrey Osburn - and the sun was darkened, and the moon didn't give light, and the stars fell from heaven, and every eye saw Him,and all the tribes of earth mourned, and He gathered His elect?
Please Explain thesolanians through 4 if there are no mention of the rapture
@Raptor-bt6zp Hank explains 1 Thessalonians 4 in this article www.equip.org/articles/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/
Hi Hank, I have been listening lately to your ministry on certain subjects and I have to say I have/am being blessed, I was once a Universal Reconciliationist and Hyper-Dispensationalist until I had my eyes open, appreciate you greatly brother, thank you.
You sound to be one who's very "woke!"
@@michaelodonnell336 WUT!
I am SO glad someone finally clarified this. I get tired of Christian Stock Footage montage channels trying to justify a pre-tribulation rapture. Thank you very much for this video. God Bless you, my friend.
Do not believe a word this guy says. It is all lies!! The Bible is very clear on what it says.
I use to believe that lie .
Thank you lord for waking me up .
Realised that people believed through hearing changed my mind. They weren't being preached Rapture. They were hearing only of Christ's return.
@johnpage7735 thanks for sharing.
The pre--tribulation rapture belief that you do not believe in is not the pre-tribulational rapture that some of us believe in.
Hank's objections are much aimed at a strawman. Ie. the "Left Behind" series of pop theology.
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it.
Jacques Wilmore And which of the Church Fathers held this view, 0. So, Christians for 1800 years missed it, this theological construct, in the Greek, the Latin, the Syriac? Isn’t it more important to be ready for when Christ returns, and to focus on practical Christian ministries unto the least of these, then to dwell on the How he returns.
@@matthewvanmatre5137 What is "this view" to which you refer ? Partial rapture ? If that is the question, isn't it the word of God which should decide what we should believe above creeds or checklist of "Church Fathers"? They had varying degrees and shifting degrees of understanding, for which I don't think they should be blamed for some deficiency at times. So Scripture rules my belief over and above the statistics of Church Fathers' insights (which though are not to be despised). Lastly, OF COURSE our Christian daily living is the best preparation. No debate there. However His coming and our living are inextricably linked together. "Expecting AND HASTENING the coming of the Lord "(2 Pet. 3:12).
Jacques Wilmore And that is my point, in that you think you see something in the text that suggests any type of rapture but somehow the greatest minds of Christendom missed it. I’m just of the thought that their understanding of Greek, Hebrew, and Syriac Scriptures is far superior to yours.
@@matthewvanmatre5137 An expert on writings of church fathers I am not. However, Jesus Himself did not "miss" a catching away of watching, vigilant, disciples at His parousia. Ie . "Remember Lot's wife. Whoever seeks to preserve his soul-life will loss it, and whoever losses it will preserve it alive. I tell you, in that night there will be two on one bed; the one will be taken and the other will be left. There will be two women grinding together; one will be taken but the other will be left. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left." (See Luke 17:32-38)
Apparently, Jesus as recorded by Luke did not "miss" the teaching. See also Matthew 24:37-44. He expects wise disciples will live and walk moment by moment as if His sudden arrival unexpectedly will reward their vigilance. Am I right?
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15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. Rev. 13:15
4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev.20:4
9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” 11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters,[e] were killed just as they had been.Rev 6:9-11
Why would God forsake us to the wrath of the antichrist only to be killed? Do you look forward to enter the great tribulation? And why would God forsake us to the authority of the antichrist only to be killed in such a brutal way. And what about those who died in Christ prior to the tribulation who didn't have to go in such wrath?
for the testimony? and for the Word of God?
Luke 21:12
And they overcame by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony, loving not their lives EVEN TO DEATH.
@@toddott633 To those who missed the rapture.
@@kato1400 Maybe you should look at the Fifth Seal one more time. The souls under the Altar cry out for vengeance against those who killed them. Clearly, they are not there because they are suffering the wrath of God because they missed the rapture. They gave their lives as a testimony (which is what the word martyr means.) There have been Christians in history, and there still are those today, who have suffered horribly for the word of God. God has not forsaken them. He will raise them up at the last day to receive their reward. Do I look forward to the Great Tribulation? Not really, but like Paul I long to partake in the fellowship of Christ's suffering, becoming like Him in His death, so as to somehow attain the resurrection.
@@toddott633 Every christian martyr died a horrific death. Christ was no exception. Do you think you will die a simple death? Heck no! The beast will find not only you but your whole family, torture your kids and your wife to force you to receive the mark and bow to the image. You refuse, they get killed, you get tortured and eventually everyone goes to the guillotine.....all on live tv! "For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." Jeremiah 29:11 There is no hope in the GREAT TRIBULATION. Only a life of misery!
Pre rapture is false teaching, no where does Christ say He comes before the tribulation
Your teaching is right in line with the pope, seventh day Adventist, and j w’s…all reject the gospel Paul preached 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and are ready to “ endure to the end “ as Jesus told a tax collector, a devil, and 10 fishermen….. are you saved? How did you get saved?
We will go through tribulation.
But saved from on earth judgment.
We will be tested. No free entry.
God knows our hearts.
I do not base my faith on the end times.
It's just interesting all the different views.
Let the Holy Spirit guide you.
Blessings
The free entry is Jesus Christ crucified for us. His death and being risen is either enough or it is not. That is it. There have been millions saved throughout history that did not suffer some horrible death. Saying we must suffer and or die for Christ is saying what He did was not enough for "entry." Blasphemy. May you be guided and given wisdom from His Holy Spirit. In Jesus' Name.
@@michellethaxton7786 So wanting to prove loyalty to God is blasphemy ? if Love Christ you are hated no matter what
“No free entry”? We must pay a little more? So that’s like saying the blood of Christ is insufficient. Shame on you.
I used to go back and forth on this. Underneath I always assumed we would go through the Tribulation, but I had to admit that sometimes I would read some arguments for pre-trib and think they had really good points, but then see others for post trib.
It wasn't until studying something completely different that made the Truth hit me right in the face. You can NEVER let an interpreted or extrapolated meaning of a scripture override plainly stated scripture.
That's when I realized there was not ONE verse that plainly stated a pre-trib rapture. EVERY one of them required you to assume a parallel meaning to a scripture or extrapolate it to something else to SUGGEST the Pre-trib doctrine. Again, many of them were certainly reasonable and rational arguments, but they were all based on assumed meaning that wasn't actually stated.
However, there are verses that spell out quite clearly when the rapture takes place.
1Th 4:16-17
"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord."
So, from this we KNOW the dead in Christ are raised FIRST, THEN we who are alive and remain will be caught up, and a Trumpet of God is noted as well.
1Co 15:52
"in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed."
This gives a little further clarification, it's at the LAST Trumpet.
Now there are 7 Trumpets mentioned in Revelation. Now that doesn't mean there might not be other trumpets after that, that aren't mentioned, but one thing for sure, by definition, the last Trumpet CAN'T be before that 7th Trumpet sounds.
Finally, the OTHER milestone marker is the dead being raised first. Lo and behold Revelation mentions the FIRST Resurrection, so obviously there aren't any other resurrections prior to that one, that could precede the rapture. So the rapture HAS to take place after this resurrection mentioned in Rev.
Rev 20:4-5:
"Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection."
Note it specifically refers to this as the FIRST resurrection and it specifically mentions those who didn't worship the beast or accept the mark. So CLEARLY this can't happen before the Antichrist is revealed and the persecution of those who won't accept the mark.
It literally couldn't be any clearer.
Meanwhile not ONE verse says we are raptured before the great tribulation.
Sadly, so many Christians are so used to preachers and prophets making WILD extrapolations of scriptural doctrine, they've literally lost the ability to tell the difference between something that's ACTUALLY stated and the meaning they are reading into it!
I literally had some woman respond with the scripture about the time of Jacob's trouble. She actually thought THAT scripture PROVED pre-trib!
You are on the brink of a breakthrough friend ! Now , get Hank's book "The Apocalypse Code" . Read it and study it. You will be amazed !
@@GeneGruber of making many books there is no end, and much study is wearisome to the soul.
@@davidpotter7484 😁 Verily ....
Ecclesiastes 12:12. ...Good one ! 👍
👍...Very good!
@@GeneGruber I've been wanting to get that book for a long time.... Getting it! :)
Hank unfortunately you have left a lot of holes in your explanation of debunking the Pre-Trib rapture theory. You need to go into more depth in your video’s instead of peddling your books for profit. It’s sad to see Christian leaders are more worried about selling there books than getting the Word out.
Mat13, wheats and tares, Jesus explains this completely a few verses later. Do you believe Jesus?
Still believe in pretrib?
@@harveynailbanger The wheat and the tares has nothing to do with the rapture. No one is separated to Judgement in the rapture. The rapture is a blessed time for born again believers. Nobody burned up here no smoke and no fire I still believe Jesus and the pre trib rapture.
@@harveynailbanger you claim to believe in Jesus yet reject His promises in Rev. 3:10, Luke 21:36, John 14:3 and Matthew 16:18? Wow.
Hank is wrong. I will always trust God over man. We, the church the body of Christ WILL BE “raptured” taken up BEFORE the wrath to come.
1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 kjv
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 ¶ For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
When one RIGHTLY DIVIDES the Bible (kjv) is clear to understand. It’s marvelous actually. All the pieces fit together ❤️❤️
How do you interpret Revelation 3:10?
@RUSS COLLINS - The Lord keeping the church at Philadelphia is far from a definitive proof for a pretribulation rapture. God could have kept them from their tribulation without having to remove them from the Earth in a secret catching away.
@@BibleAnswerMan He said He will keep them from the hour of trial that comes upon the whole world. This “hour of trial” is the great tribulation; not their tribulation. It comes upon the whole world meaning the great tribulation.
the Greek word is tereo ek, which means keep from or out of; not preserve while in or keep through. So Revelation 3:10 means the Lord will take the Church out of the great tribulation.
I believe you have to finish reading the rest of the scriptures to understand what that means. When you read the Bible you have to make sure you finish reading the paragraph.
Revelation 3:10-12 NLT
[10] “Because you have obeyed my command to persevere, I will protect you from the great time of testing that will come upon the whole world to test those who belong to this world. [11] I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take away your crown. [12] All who are victorious will become pillars in the Temple of my God, and they will never have to leave it. And I will write on them the name of my God, and they will be citizens in the city of my God-the new Jerusalem that comes down from heaven from my God. And I will also write on them my new name.
So who did he write his name on?
Revelation 14:1 NLT
[1] Then I saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him were 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.
We are told we're all the bride but we're not. Read Revelation 21 and you will find out who the Bride is. Notice in the Bible God has always use the Jewish people to fulfilled his prophecy.
You can also read Revelation 7. The 12 tribes of Israel got sealed before the wrath. They were protected. God did not remove them from earth.
That was so moving. As a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary, I've always questioned the biblical validity of Dispensationalism. Never could find coherent support for an imagined distinction between Israel and The Church.
Hank has started a new video series on Eschatology of more than 12 videos that are being released over the next couple of months. We will release 2 videos a week in this series. Here is the first one that we released yesterday --> ua-cam.com/video/tAwcv2djHxo/v-deo.html
@@BibleAnswerMan thank you
Look into the life of Scofield and you will cringe.
I feel Sorry for Dallas Theological Cemetary!
@@artcarlson3581 I do not feel sorry for Dallas Theological Cemetery they are deceivers who the Lord shall deal with. Check into the life of Scofield and you will see the con artist, liar and deceiver.
I’ve been trying to explain this to my family for years.
Is Mr.Hanegraff saying that there is also no Tribulation at all, what about the 1,000 year Milennial Reign, does that still happen, I'm confused...?
@@colindavis1496 when I listened to Hank on FM radio every day I had all this down pat, but it's becoming foggy now. Hanks book the apocalypse code explains it all and it is a fantastic read.
@@richardt875...It's actually pretty scary to realize the enormous chasm in interpretation ranging from Hank's preterist view and the ever so dominant pre dispensationalist view amongst the majority of teachers, I find the lack of overall consensus to be rather disheartening as I attempt to nail down which is correct. John MacArthur whom I respect as a Bible teacher takes the pre dispensationalist perspective, I'm not sure who to believe...!
@@colindavis1496 every preacher seems to have a different view on Revelation as a whole. I prefer Hanks explanation, because it offers more proof that Jesus is who he says he is.
@@colindavis1496 We know from Jesus Himself that the great tribulation is coming, but not when.
I believe the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth after that period is well established in scripture.
So, whether the church is raptured before or mid tribulation is important, but not crucial to a saved member of His church today.
It makes little sense to me that a "post" tribulation rapture would be correct. We (His Bride) will reign with Christ on earth for that thousand years,
not spend eternity in heaven OFF the earth, as some anti rapturists argue.
The Old Testament is full of types and pictures of various sorts. Enoch's rapture (translation) into heaven is well established, and it took place before
the flood of Noah destroyed the earth ( a type of the tribulation).
Also, the church of Christ is HIs bride. In Jewish culture of the day, once betrothed (legally married at that time), the groom and bride remained apart
for an extended period. Then the Husband would return and take His wife back, followed by the wedding feast.
There are some answers to this gentleman's objections to the rapture doctrine, but I am not a scholar by any stretch.
I am confident in a pre tribulation rapture of the church, and all we can do is remain faithful until our Lord returns, in whatever way that is manifested.
God Bless
Watch the documentary “BEFORE THE WRATH”. It explains Galilean culture and the soon coming Pre-Trib Rapture.
Amen!..Excellent movie. It explains everything about the soon to be rapture. We are looking for our Lord Jesus Christ to rapture the saved believers so He can deal with the jews and show the King of Kings has already come, died on the cross and arose from the dead!.. rapture ready!
that is not how to study the word. By looking back and only taking that as the fullness of the truth I am not saying you do that. i am saying. then we have missed it that turns it into doctrines of man or traditions of man. The Bible explains the bible . if we go back and see Galilean culture, it might explain the text . but if it does not line up with the God-breathed word of God or contradicts the word the word stands true , it has to line up with the word I think you would agree
Before the wrath, is worse than the already existing false gospel of the rapture. Everyone BUT the true truth seekers just want their ears tickled.
@@christym2121the producers of the movie used the scriptures, culture and customs to explain beautifully.
God is not going to force anyone to adhere to the doctrine of imminence, very often through scripture we are told time and time again "watch and wait," "watch and wait" it's very important. But if God planned for you to go through the tribulation why would he tell you to "watch and wait"? There would be nothing to watch and wait for, nothing you could do anyway, you would just arrive at the culmination point, where all things had run their course. There would be absolutely no need to "watch and wait." He would have said just hang on. He provides a way of escape. Watch and wait, he appears the second time only to those who are watching and waiting. Hebrews 9:28. He also says "pray you are worthy to escape." You can't be worthy of something you don't believe in. Proverbs 22:3 says the prudent man foresees evil and hides himself but the simple pass on and are punished.
I have been looking for and have not yet found your explanation of what Paul Is telling us in 1 Thessalonians Chapter 4. Why should we be comforting each other as Christians with this extraordinary chapter in this epistle?
@philthephlier1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is an encouragement. Despite the fact that some Christians have died (v. 13). Christ died, rose again, and ascended to heaven, and we can be assured that Christ will return with the believers who passed away, btw Christ = God (v. 14). There will be those alive at the time Christ’s returns (v.15). The dead in Christ rise first then those who are alive will meet Christ (vv. 16-17).
No pretribulation rapture mentioned. No 7-year tribulation mentioned.
Be encouraged that you’ll face the wrath of God and face the anti Christ 🤔 don’t seem to go too good with scripture, it’ll be like the days of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah, he will remove his people first, it’s Bible 👌
For a believer who has not done his own search of the truth from the Word of God, it is easy to believe in everything this man argues against pre- tribulation rapture.
Thank you!! Excellent teaching
I can not believe this is Hank Hanegraaff speaking. I never would have believed 20 years ago or now he could be so utterly deceived.
The fact that he would believe God would make his church the bride of Christ suffer the tribulation is unbelievable . . .
*That's only because you never received the love of the truth.*
*That's also why you can't see that your bible has been magically destroyed.*
@richardg9734 Well, the Scriptures teach the Christian experiences tribulation, and Hank is affirming the authority of the Bible.
33 These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” (John 16:33)
5 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us. (Rom. 5:1-4).
2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. 4 But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing. (James 1:2)
12 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; 13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ’s sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy. 14 If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified. 15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people’s matters. 16 Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter. (1 Peter 4:12-16).
1 Thessalonians 5:8-9 never tells us that we are going to be taken out of the fight before the fight gets going, but we put on the armor and we are not destined to wrath.
I once heard someone say, "Anyone who doesn't think God would let his church suffer the tribulation can't know much about church history."
Is the name Mary (or Margaret) McDonald in any way associated to the "rapture"?
@josenunez8952 Hank is skeptical about the accuracy of the Margaret MacDonald vision being the origin of the pretribulation rapture doctrine story. This is explained in the Apocalypse Code. www.equip.org/product/the-apocalypse-code-paperback/
He never addresses the scriptures that support pre-trib rapture ....not very convincing
Because there are no scriptures that support it.
"As in the days of Noah"
meaning like Noah we will be taken out of tribulation.
Matthew 24:37 - But as the days of Noe (Noah) were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 - For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 - And knew not until the flood came, and took (WHO?) them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (the WICKED WERE TAKEN)
Mat 24:40 - Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:41 - Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:42 - Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
The WICKED were TAKEN and Noah was LEFT BEHIND at the end of the flood.
Luke 17:26 - And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. The WICKED were TAKEN in the flood and Noah was LEFT BEHIND after the flood was over.
as in the Days of Noah is more for the sudden total destruction happening., that they knew not until it happened. It is a good example to see Noah as a type of Israel a preserved remnant in the Great Tribulation Where they were protected thru the Great tribulation The Church is raptured removed from the entire time of the Tribulation and wrath. We believers see none of the Great Tribulation.
@@artcarlson3581 the antichrists are not Israel, nor Judah
1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)
1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah? SATAN?
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
One man, Enoch, was translated for he did not see death before the great flood.
8 souls were saved by water during the great flood.
So likewise shall be in the generation of the day of the Lord.
There will be more souls converted during the great tribulation than those who are delivered before it, as in that blessed hope.
Noah was not taken out he and his family was perfected here on Earth
IMO, the disappointment of no pre-trib rapture happening will cause the great falling away of the faith, midway through the 7-yr treaty. These disappointed "Christians" will be the first to take the Mark of the Beast, so they can survive, because their minds weren't prepared for the persecutions.
I have thought the same about the "great falling away". If they aren't "raptured" before it gets messy, they will turn their backs on Christ claiming that He isn't coming.
I so sad to think that you are right. I've considered the same. It's happening already with the false birthing pain of the plandemic biovirus.
Sad, but true! That's why studying His Word is so important, rather than following man! I pray a lot more people will read your comment and consider this!
Send this guy to a seminary please. How can you be so wrong on so many points?
Gabriel tells Daniel that the 70 weeks are decreed for “your people” (Israel)…which includes the 70th week. It is not decreed for the church. The church didn’t exist yet. The entire point of the 7 year tribulation is to get Israel to repent and call on Jesus’ name, which they will, and then he will return in his second coming.
I love how you tied the third temple into Hebrews 10, that's a perfect parallel.
You will surely miss the RAPTURE
Possible
Guess we’ll see y’all later then, I’m heading up pre trib. 😊
Me too!😀
Those who are "looking for him" will go. Hebrews 9:28
If you're thinking he's not coming back till after the tribulation you're not looking for him.
Proverbs 22:3 a prudent man foresees evil and hides himself, the simple pass on and are punished.
Luke 21:36 pray you are counted worthy to escape
1 Corinthians 10:13 he provides a way of escape.
WRONG! WRITE TO ME AND I WILL GIVE YOU 5 REASONS THE RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL. PRAYING FOR YOU ALL. 🙏
MAY GOD IN HEAVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you, good Sir, for getting the truth out about this deception. Blows my mind how all the churches in this wicked world today can not agree on anything our Lord tried to teach us, but they all accept, love, and teach the biggest damnable lie ever devised by man. So many will say in their heart my lord delays his coming, and will begin to smite his brother, once all Hell is upon the earth and still no rapture, it creates the great falling away I believe.
God bless you and this paramount work for these final days of the age.
This deception was devised by Satan, not man, so that those who believe it as truth will be disappointed and disillusioned when it (the Rapture) doesn't happen and they deny the Faith. Another reason why God might allow the Church to go thru the Great Tribulation is so those remaining Christians who are alive and remain faithful to Him will be able to proclaim the Gospel to those under His judgement for sin (not having trusted in Christ's atonement for their sin). If He removed Christians from the earth, who would remain to proclaim the Good News to the lost?
an excellent video exposing the lies of dispensationalism
fancy meeting you here
God bless Hank and family.
Hank's god is not the Lord Jesus because Jesus is not one of 3 persons. Jesus is the blessed and only wise God, the Saviour, the only Potentate, the everlasting Father, the Comforter, the Almighty and there is no other god. Hank shall die in his sins for not knowing Jesus is the I AM, the Father. Read John 8 lines 24 through 27.
@@1516Taylor ur wrong.
And you are slandering Hank . And will be answering yo God why?
@@zerosparky9510 I am commanded to mark those likened to Hank according to the holy scriptures.
Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
@@zerosparky9510 Job 6:25 How forcible are right words! but what doth your arguing reprove?
Job 40:2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.
The idea of a Pre-trib rapture was not a recent "invention" by J.N. Derby; I have listed the dates and names of when it was taught and by whom:-
Shepherd of Hermes.........................A.D. 150
Irenaeus.............................................. " 170
Hyppolytus.......................................... " 210
Victorinus............................................ " 240
Cyprian................................................ " 250
Ephriam the Syrian............................. " 373
Papias................................................. " 60 - 130
Justin Martyr...................................... " 110 - 195
Tertullian............................................. " 145 - 220
Lactantius........................................... " 260 - 330
Hank, thank you always for staying the course on these pre tribulation falsehoods. It is so sad that so many go to a seminary and are indoctrinated toward this and they never rightly divide the truth on their own.
It partially started with Scofield and his teachings and took off, at least in the US.
@@JesusChristismySavior-Julieit actually all started with the first century believers.. that's just a fable that Darby and Scofield started it.. but the bible didn't go into production til the 16th century.. look up Clement of rome(35-101).. Ignatius of Antioch who died in 110.. if your gonna research it.. don't half ass it.. search it out all the way😊
I was never keen on going in the rapture and leave my unsaved children behind anyway. I kept telling the Lord, not now Lord, not now. Those who think they are ready, coul have a very rude awakening when they are not taken. We are supposed to concentrate on the losts, not on escaping.
You’re go a leave your kids and friends behind if they are not saved anyways.
You're completely wrong
Jesus prophesied post tribulation rapture! Tell Jesus he is wrong, I dare you. You're not that crazy! Read Matthew 24.29,30 31 take him at his word. Jesus said my sheep hear my voice and another they will not follow! Jesus teaching and prophecy is his VOICE, right? Jesus never mentioned pretribulation Rapture!
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Atleast drop a verse to make your point. Children have better arguments when they call each other ugly, you at least have something to focus on.
@@thetower8553 oh where to begin
@@Titus2_13 Paul describes a post tribulation rapture. 1st Corinthians 15.51,2 WE ALL ARE CHANGED AT THE LAST TRUMP!❤ jew and gentile alike! The Trump blown in Matthew 24.29,30 31 is obviously the last Trump 🙄
@glenpersinger3390 just because it's the LAST trump doesn't mean AFTER tribulation. There are trumps seals and bowls. They all don't end after the tribulation
1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Matthew 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matthew 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Matthew 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Unbiblical? That’s the Bible isn’t?
It will be done as your faith said Jesus. You will find it less funny when the rapture will happen and you will be left behind….
@alexandre9328 Read carefully the verses you shared. None of them explicitly tell us about a pretribulation rapture, i.e., the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millennium.
@@BibleAnswerMan "1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night."
The trumpets of 1 Thessaloniciens 4.16-17 and 1 Corinthians 15.51-52 will be heard only by true Christian believer. They’ll meet the Lord in the air because in their glorified body, they will fly. This appearance won’t be public, the whole humanity won’t be there in the air to see it. The public appearance is at the end of the tribulation at the Armageddon war in Israel.
Noah was given a way out of the flood....
And Enoch was taken into heaven before the flood...
Yes, Noah taken out, so is church on the Last Day at the Second Coming and the unbelievers are swept away. Is Judgment Day then eternal reign.
@@brianguglielmin2873 No Bible verse to support the assumption that the Church escapes the Great Tribulation. Creating an analogy using Noah's Ark isn't Biblical proof. "Saints" are mentioned going through the Great Tribulation (Rev. 13:10; 14:12), which is just another word for believers in Jesus Christ/God. The Church still escapes this physical life when Jesus returns on the Last Day.
Again, let's get back to the subject of when Christ will withdraw the Church. It is lawful that in the current situation, Christians ask themselves: Are we going to go through the Tribulation? How do you explain Christians suffering now? And how to understand these texts: "And she was allowed to make war on the saints, and to overcome them ... And I saw that the woman was drunk on the blood of the saints, and on the blood of the witnesses of Jesus" Rev. 13: 7 and 17: 6. So how to sustain pre-tribulationism? If passages like Paul Ap.3: 10 and Luke 21:36 do not comfort you ... Then I want to bring Jesus' own words ... "you are Peter, and on this stone I will build my church, and the doors from hell will not prevail against her; " Mt 16:18. Christ's statement is that the Evil One will never, never be able to extinguish the Church or exterminate it completely, so it is clear that she will not participate in this period when the Antichrist will be allowed to win everything and everyone. If it is impossible for Christ to lie, then let us be confident and sober in the Word. I see many of their faces fallen and defeated, terrified by the situation they see and what is to come, they do not know that you are an elected race, a royal priesthood, the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world, you are more what a winner and that no creature of the present or the future can separate you from the Love of God, in the person of Christ Jesus! So watch and pray because the One who bought you at a high price will come to rescue you. Maranata!
WK, You base much of your beliefs on a far future fulfillment of Revelation. The writer, John, addressed the book to the seven churches in Asia Minor that were actual (literal!) churches in his time. He says, quoting Jesus, “the things that must take place shortly”, “I am coming soon”, “the time is near” throughout Revelation. The revelation was given to John during one of the most trying times of the first century Christians. John says he is a “brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation” they were experiencing. The rivalry between those who said Caesar is Lord and those proclaiming Jesus is Lord began in earnest with the persecution of Nero in 64 AD, as we know from Tacitus and other historians. It is without a doubt that the revelation had a firm contextual grounding in the first century church struggling against the persecutions by the beast of Rome, not to the present day 2,000 years removed. If you want to understand Revelation, you must first understand the Old Testament; 2/3rd of the book is quoting or alluding to the OT prophets. For example, the harlot on the beast with the cup of wine representing the blood of the prophets and the saints was used in Jeremiah and Ezekiel as symbolic of apostate Judah in the 6th BC, when God judged the nation and destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in 586 BC. Jesus told the Pharisees they were guilty of the blood of “the prophets whose blood they shed”, and to fill up the full measure. This was the precise symbol used to describe the coming wrath of God in the OT through the Babylonians as it was in Revelation through the Romans. According to Eusebius the Christians fled Judea to the mountains of Perea to the north, in Pella, when the Roman armies led by Cestius Gallus surrounded the city in 66 AD. The Christians who heeded Jesus’ words to flee Judea were spared, while the Jews trusted in their ability to find protection in the temple, God’s house, and were slaughtered by the sword, famine, and plague-just as in Jeremiah and Ezekiel’s day.
There is no mention of the antichrist in the book of Revelation, nor anywhere else in the NT. John describes “antichrists” as false teachers who had “gone out from” the congregations of believers in his day, but no end times antichrist is to be found in the Bible, at all. This is purely pop-eschatology, and it sells lots of books.
That's simple go through Matthew 24 the Olivet's Discourse, the Messiach gave the answers to His Disciples. I mean there you'll find His direct answer.
Jeffrey Osburn your type just wants to argue .
Tristan Anderson Our beliefs should be strongly grounded in biblical evidence so that we can confidently share our faith with others. The exchange of information we have on this forum is presenting our “arguments”-our defense of what we believe-but need not be “argumentative”. Examining the strengths and weaknesses of our beliefs makes us stronger in our service in the Kingdom, as “iron sharpens iron” (Prov 27:17). I have come to believe the rapture as commonly taught is not a biblical doctrine. I came to this conclusion after carefully studying the Bible, after previously believing it simply because that was what I was taught. I want to encourage you to challenge your beliefs, and be willing to follow what the Bible clearly teaches-not me, or any “prophecy experts”. There is nothing to fear or lose by challenging our beliefs against the Bible, only the reward of proper study and strength in your beliefs. My investigative journey of 8 years (and counting!) have led me to the conclusion that I could no longer support dispensationalism and a secret coming/partial resurrection called the rapture. Be encouraged to “test all things and hold on to that which is good” (1 Thess 5:12). Be blessed, Tristan!
@@madvidz9819 Full Study about Harvest on Pentecost at my Fb page...Harolds WK
I agree with this the second coming of Jesus will come at the end of the tribulation.
Show me a verse that says we will be here during tribulation. Why would God want Christians to be here on the earth during all the plagues?
Dawn Willoughby The plagues aren’t meant for believers but rather non-believers and unrepentant sinners. Wouldn’t it make sense that the fact that you know about the plagues and can read Revelation as a believer means that believers will experience it? Why even read Revelation if we won’t experience all the bad things prophecied? How can we expect to be saved by a rapture when most saints were killed for their belief and Jesus promised his followers would be persecuted? If Christians in Syria were crucified and had their heads cut off by ISIS then why should you or I be spared persecution? The Israelites were present during the 10 plagues on ancient Egypt, but they were spared the plagues because they put lamb’s blood on their doors. Tribulation will have a lot of violence, a lot will happen to believers and a lot to non-believers. I would say the entire book of Revelation is the answer to your request of a verse that shows believers will be on Earth during the plagues. Jesus promised his followers they would be persecuted for His name. Christians in Syria have been crucified by ISIS, Saint Peter was crucified upside down. I really doubt we will be raptured away for no reason. If we were raptured away the whole world would know Christ is Lord without question, and convienently get another chance
The taking away of the church, The Bride, is the rapture.
Then God's wrath is poured out on the earth. The wrath is not for the church.
Then there is the second coming of Christ and a thousand year reign.
Christians suffer persecution at the hands of men.
Not at the hands of God. The tribulation isn't persecution. It's a fiery judgement upon the ones who rejected Christ.
@@suelloyd4384 its crystal clear to me in this verse that the gathering to Christ happens after the falling away and the man of sin is revealed.
2nd thessalonians chapter 2
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things
The bible teaches we all will face tribulation and persecution, during the birth pains in matthew 24 we will be delivered before kings and govenors even by our own families to be put to death for the testiomy of christ.
Similar to revelation chapter 6 mentioning the altar of souls opened, where those inside are told to wait until their bretheren are KILLED as they were (not raptured)
So as far as i know most of us true believers will be killed and persecuted and jailed for the true testimony of christ either during the birth pangs or first 5 seals.
Then its clear as written in Pauls books as i shown in the verse above Corinthians and thessalonians that the coming Christ AND OUR GATHERING TO HIM doeesnt happen until after the falling away (great apostasy) and the man of perdition revealed. At the LAST TRUMPET!!
Again in Revelation 12 the woman who i believe is ISRAEL is protected 1260 days (3.5 years) , the dragon then goes to make war with the remnant of her seed.
Those who hold the testimony or CHRIST!! Thats us his church!!!
The antichrist rises next chapter and is given power for guess what 3.5 years to overcome the SAINTS!! Who are the saints? We are believers and like Paul and Stephen and the others we will likley be persecuted and killed.
3.5 years is the exact time ISRAEL is protected on earth.
(the woman 12 stars 12 tribes of israel see genesis joesphs dream)
Its very clear we will all face persecution and tribulation for the testimony of Christ, its also very clear to me the gathering to christ (rapture) is after the tribulation period and the DEAD rise first.
Im not right about everything, please if u can use the scriptures to correct me ! Thnx
So we must endure until the end no matter what comes our way!!! Praise the most High and his son Jesus and beg his forgiveness no matter what happens!!
Gos bless praise Jesus!!
What's your view on post tribulation rapture
Post-tribulation rapture presupposes a still yet future great tribulation prior to the second appearance of Jesus Christ.
Hank believes in the future second appearance of Jesus Christ. He explains this in the book Resurrection | www.equip.org/product/resurrection/
Hank rejects the notion of a still yet future great tribulation. He explains this in the book Apocalypse Code | www.equip.org/product/the-apocalypse-code-paperback/
The post-tribulation rapture teaching is then flawed in its presupposition of a still yet future great tribulation.
Hope this helps.
Thank you! I never believed in the rapture, because I study the Bible regularly. It tought me more, than any of the various Churches I've ever been to!
The seven years that the Hebrews were being murdered by the Nazi’s certainly fits the narrative of the Tribulation and Israel becoming a nation again after the 2 thousand year dispersal by the hand of Christ and Our Father.! The dry bones coming together in Ezekiel is fullfiled with Israel 🇮🇱 in 1948 .! All good things come from Our Father who art in HEAVEN AMEN
There is a pretrib rapture dear believer but not all those that believe in pretrib will go in pretrib.The Philadelphian saints are the church of BROTHERLY LOVE. The bride wants all saints to be harvested with the barley company at pretrib. The bulk of the church will reject the bridal calling. Believers will go to heaven when they are ready to be harvested. The crop must be ready before it can be harvested. Barley and wheat are both grain companies that are both planted at the same time, in the autumn. Barley matures faster than wheat and is harvested in the spring. BARLEY IS THE BRIDE, and she leaves at pretrib. Wheat is harvested in the summer. Wheat is the great multitude church gathered in Rev 7..... THE VIRGINS WITHOUT NUMBER AKA THE INNUMERABLE COMPANY! The final company, caught up at midtrib, before the open door is shut, are the grapes that are gathered at midtrib. The grapes are the 144,000 Jews. The Jews finally believe Christ is their king because they gleaned the truth from the Barley and wheat companies.
"Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to deliver them on the Day of the LORD’s wrath. The whole earth will be consumed by the fire of His jealousy. For indeed, He will make a SUDDEN END of all who dwell on the earth!" (Zephaniah 1:18)
One, it says " all those who dwell in the "land." Read further, chapter two begins with a call to repentance. Verse 3 " Seek the lord all you meek of the earth, ( this is addressed to the nation of Israel at that period of time) And it was also fulfilled. That's the problem of not knowing history and listening to blind guides.
Jesus said, in Luke 16:16," The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached and everyone is pressing into it."
And again in Hebrews 1:1 " God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time " PAST," to the fathers by the prophets. Hath in these last days ( of the old covenant) no more animal sacrifice, new priesthood,
" Spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom He also made the ages."
At 3:52 into this video the Holy Spirit inspired me to write this passage of scripture. Jesus Christ was rebuking the spirit that was inspiring Peter. Matthew Chapter 16:21-23 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and BE RAISED AGAIN the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, GET THEE BEHIND ME, SATAN: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Anyone that denies what is clearly in the Word of God must be rebuked. To deny the Rapture of the Church you are in effect saying, that what Jesus did at the Cross of Calvary wasn't enough to atone for our sins, and we have to go through the Great Tribulation.
Amen brother! Post-tribbers are proudly proclaiming that they would lay down their lives for Christ at the prospect of taking the mark. But just like Peter they are denying the words of Jesus in Luke 21:36, Rev. 3:10, John 14:3 and Matthew 16:18.
How do you square 1 thessalonians 4:13-18 where he says "we will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep"...."and the dead in christ will rise first", 1 Corinthians 15:52 that says at the last Trump Christ will descend from the clouds in his second coming, second coming last Trump which is at the end of the tribulation as spelled out in revelation 20:4-5 where christ comes and and raises the dead, verse 4 "and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." And verse 5 where it says this was the first resurrection.
If we do not preceed the dead in christ (first ressurection of saints) being raised which is at the end of the tribulation when jesus comes for the second time descending from the clouds, how can you preach pre-tribulation rapture when it clearly says we will not preceede those saints raised at the end of the tribulation?
Pre tribulation rapture is unbiblical when looking at this simple timeline.
@@scottwall8419 but look in verse 17, in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4. Caught up is our word. Which is how we get rapture. We are not in the tribulation, 1st Thessalonians 5:9. 1st Corinthians 15:52-55 is the rapture. Those in Revelation 20:4-5 are tribulation saints
@Titus 2:13 those in Revelations 20:4-5 are the dead in christ. It does not say tribulation saints. What it does say is that is the 1st ressurection. If there was a rapture before the tribulation where the dead in christ are raised first like 1 corinthians 15:52 says then you have proven the bible a liar because the pre tribulation rapture of the dead in christ would be the 1st ressurection and revelations 20 would be the second. Not to mention the only time the dead in christ are mentioned to be raised is in revelations 20. 1 cor 15:52 also says "at the last trumpet" so either there multiple last trumpets or the your claiming it either doesnt actually mean the last trumpet which is coincidentally in revelations 20 also or that the bible is wrong again. So the dead in christ and the the last trumpet happen to be when christ literally appears to the world in revelations 19-20.
So is there pre-tribulation rapture and the bible contradicts itself twice in this limited context or should we trust in what the bible says?
1 thessalonians 5:9 question. If Christian's are not going to be around while the wrath is being poured out then as each person accepts christ during the tribulation are they just SOL and have ti experience gods wrath? Also, does the same go for the 144,000, do we just say tough gig? No, I think god will make certain protections for his people to protect them possibly like he did with Noah and his family or like he did with the Israelites during the plagues in Egypt.
Another thing I would ask you to consider is Revelation 19:7 where the great multitude who comes with christ says
"Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready."
According to then the wedding feast referred to by Jesus in Matthew 25 and Mark 13 has not happened yet and the bride(which is the church) has made herself ready, this is the end of the tribulation. A common beleif in pre-tribulation beleif is that christ comes for his bride before the tribulation and that verse indicates he has not done that up to this point.
Sorry for the lengthy reply, curious to hear your reaction.
@@scottwall8419 I do understand, and I might be wrong and many others but I respect your opinion. I do believe in a pre-trib for many reasons but i won't say that I am above everyone. As well I won't argue back. This is Satan doing, being the author of confusion. I do think the rapture and the second coming are different, you just have to know what your looking for. More over you do have to watch for His return, Matthew 24:36 and Luke 21:28. Have a bless day or night 🌃
( I do love and forgive you, but mostly, if you kept arguing, repent, I am not saying you did but if you have, please do it. This is a amazing thing God has blessed us with. )
What do you say to those who believe you are learning from demons, when you teach the pre-tribulation is not biblical?
@rodneymartin3846 Ask why they suppose you are learning from demos? Remind them in the spirit of humility, gentleness, and respect: There is not a single verse telling us there is a pretribulation rapture, i.e., the idea that God is going to remove the Church from the Earth before the start of a future seven-year Great Tribulation that ends with Jesus' Second Coming and the start of the Millennium.
@@BibleAnswerMan this is a pastor’s response to my post “There are two different spirits leading us here one is leading you and one is leading me that's why we have a difference of opinion! And I know the Holy Spirit of God that leads me so you cannot change what I know from the Holy Spirit! As in the same way, I cannot change your opinion or your stand!”
Same, tired reasons always given. After a while it’s just mind numbing. But you know what? Either way, we’re going to be finding out in the very near future. The road immediately ahead is growing quickly chaotic.
End time.
One of the problems for pre-tribbers is that they don't have 1 Maccabees in their Bible (that tells us about this abomination of desolation). Martin Luther threw it out of the Bible 500 years ago, despite it having been there for over 1,200 years.
What about Jesus talking about the abomination being a future event? Matthew 24?Mark 13?
I was a post triber, pre wrath thinker. However, studying this topic in the scripture it leaves me lean towards pre trib. It requires scriptures interpreting scriptures. The Holy Spirit will be taken off this earth before the 7 years start. We saved Christians are sealed with the Holy Spirit and that is a promise by God. Now right before the 7 years start John sees the heavens open and the church sit in heaven, at the same time the spirit is taken off the earth and the 7 years start. There is much more to it but a deep study leaves me lean towards pre trib. The rapture that is easily referred to always addresses the Jews. Paul however addressed the gentiles and much is different. Rightly dividing is crucial to avoid confusion.
Al lest some like you know the truth about the pre tribulation being true.
Zach, read Leviticus 14:33-53, the story regarding a plague of mildew in one's house. Here in the Torah is the pre-Tribulation Rapture confirmed, the priest (Christ) comes before the 7 days (years) to call out believers from the house (the world), being the sixth church of Revelation. Reddish plague is symbolic of leftism, Marxism, communism, etc. Greenish mildew is symbolic of Islam. People found in the house during the 7 days must wash their clothes, this group is symbolic of people who come to faith during the Tribulation, the seventh church of Revelation.