Vintage Saw Sharpener [Rescue]
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2019
- This thing is amazing! It is a Foley Automatic Filer Model 61 from 1954-1958 made by the Foley Manufacturing Co. of Minneapolis, MN. It has the capability to sharpen and joint hand saws, band saws, and circular saws. These sold for around $250 USD in 1954, which is equivalent to $2300 USD in 2019. They were marketed as the all-in-one sharpening solution for running your own sharpening business. This specific unit was generously donated to me from a viewer.
This restoration ending up turning into a "rescue" as I decide to keep the original paint and not repaint the tool. Usually, if a tool has more than 90% of its original finish, then I will not repaint it, and that is what happened here. Even though, originally, the tool was not painted very well and painted almost fully assembled, it was still worth saving. I just gave all parts a semi-gloss clear coat to bring back the original luster and prevent future rusting.
The only parts that were missing were a set of thumbscrews, a lock nut, and the light attachment. I ended up making the light attachment and had the custom lock nuts remade at the machine shop.
The machine was also originally missing the hand saw carriage and bandsaw blade attachment, but luckily, I was able to source the saw carriage from a follower on instagram. The bandsaw blade attachment is still needed, so let me know if you ever find one.
Getting the machine set up properly is definitely time consuming, but once perfected the sharpening goes quickly. I would love to use this machine to sharpen some hand saws that I find during my antique tool searches. I know you can use it for jointing saw blades as well, but I did not show that in the video.
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Legend has it, HTR only makes these videos for himself to know how the heck to put it back together... then edits them for our epic viewing pleasure. :D
That's how it all started...
@@HandToolRescue theory confirmed
I often wondered this lol
I take pictures to help me remember how to put things back together, still manage to screw it up tho
@@HandToolRescue I started by taking pictures of a Farmal B while I was taking apart all the linkages on the carburetor and Lift All cylinder. Once I got it back together I kept taking pictures until UA-cam showed up and I began videoing too. The stills are better for details. 😀😎
For a channel with no commentary (which i enjoy) you convey so much personality in your videos.
You may like Geoffrey Crocker
(Not shilling, I promise)
So much sexuality.
Alan Partridge is
@@alanpartridge2140 yes, thats a nice chanel!
If you sign up as a Patreon you'll get to hear the melodic, dulcet tones of this fine elocutionist. :-O
31:55 there goes the perfect opportunity to say in fluent Swiss "This part was missing. I make a new one."
On a REALLY positive note, from 35:44 I have my new ringtone for unlisted numbers :D
I showed my dad this, he's a carpenter and he's been doing it since before this sharpener was made. He used to sharpen all his saws, although he's getting on a bit now. I don't think he got this was a demonstration, he was criticizing your technique saying you should be using a mill file and sharpening the tops, not the gullet! He loved the tool though, and said you had done a good job on it. I showed him your japanning video last week and he was fascinated. It's the only time I get him to look at a computer screen!
Keep doing what you're doing dude.
Thank you for sharing the love you have for your father, and something of interest you two can share.
This comment is so wholesome; I really needed that today, thank you.
@@EitanTsur I'm glad you saw it! Keep up the good work dude, its fascinating to see how all these old tools are put together. A lot of this stuff should be in a museum, not rusting away.
bedsides the god-awful noise it makes, that's one heck of a piece of machinery! And a fantastic restoration!!
So nice that you kept the original paint, the clear cote-only was a genius move! Beautiful!
My Grandmother worked for Foley from 1940 to 1969 retired from there just before they closed the doors ! They made everything from sharpening tools to cake pans from sanders to cookie cutters ! My Grandfather had ALL of those tools made by Foley ! So it’s real cool to see you working on something my Grandmother may have built during the war ! Thank You !
That's awesome!
The only mechanic on UA-cam that understands the meaning of the safety guard on a grinder. Yes, that thing has a purpose, and it is not on there to block your view only.
I watch quite a few restoration videos, but I love yours the most. I love your humor, the fact there isn’t any crappy background music. I love your wrenches and your banana. Keep up the great work!
Haha thank you!
It's nice to see this old Foley in operation. Fifty years ago I had a saw filing shop as a teenager. My Foley was a little older than this one and had a spoked wheel to make the settings prior to sharpening. I filed handsaws and plywood circular saw blades with small teeth shaped like handsaw teeth, not the large circular saw blade you put on the machine. The carriage for the handsaw could be either straight or crowned depending on the handsaw being filed. There were two gauges which set the placement of the handsaw on the carriage. You also need an angle gauge to set the file for the proper profile for crosscut or rip. If I saw it right, your file was not filing all the way to the bottom of the gullet, nor was it filing the face of the tooth. In other words, it wasn't set at the right angle. You might have had it taking too much of a cut also.
The rip and crosscut circular saw blades were best done on a Belsaw circular saw grinder whose motor tilted forward and backward on a shaft. The circular saw blades could be jointed very easily since they fit on a cone like this one but larger and with a set screw. If you do use the Foley for circular saws, it doesn't screech so much if you turn the machine to the opposite angle and file the teeth set away from you. That way you aren't filing against the set of the tooth. Just reverse the saw and use the other feed pawl to sharpen the opposite teeth. You won't need ear plugs that way.
Airborne Ranger I to remember those being much quitter , my grandma worked for Foley and of course my grandpa had all the tools they made ! Lol !
Airborne Ranger: Thank you for firsthand experience confirming my own observations (with no experience to back it up). I am starting an accumulation of Foley-Belsaw equipment and agree that the tip-forward (Model 210, etc) is better for circular saw blades. Thank you for your service, All the Way, Sir! Airborne.
Hearing the machine working makes it obvious why someone would spend so much time engineering it.......so they could leave the room while getting the work done!
Amazing machine! Well worth the rescue.
I received my adjustable wrench in mail yesterday. I haven’t used it yet, but it feels fantastic. I’m so glad I got one. I will at least be cracking open beers with it this weekend.
I'm always excited when I see a new Hand Tool Rescue video in the queue... you always do a beautiful job, and the tools are brought back to a useful life. I watch just about every restoration video on UA-cam, and your channel remains head and shoulders above the rest-- partly because of the care and detail of your work, and partly because your sense of humor remains steadfast! I appreciate this, and I'm sure a whole bunch of my fellow viewers do too! Keep up the good work, and we'll keep watching and smiling! Thanks!
Thank you very much!
I agree and his humor is funny. I have a Foley saw filer I can’t remember the model number but it’s got to be close to the same. Mine needs restoration. Thanks
Amazing work and such a complex machine for what at first thought is a simple task... That noise is the stuff of nightmares!
I love how you were straight up destroying that panel saw... I saw at least 1 tooth break off and the "filed" ones had their leading edges wrecked. Love it.
Love watching old machine come back to life, thank for take an old man down memory lane.
You're a wizard, Harry! I am constantly amazed at how you manage to remember where each piece goes. It's gotta be some kind of sorcery!
I demand a "Where are they now? 10 years later" for all your projects!
@Legofan94 I bet he has a hoarding problem even with selling off finished projects.
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Jumped around the video. My Dad R.I.P. has a Foley saw sharpener machine very similar to this one. Boy did it bring good memories...WOW!
It amazes me every time I watch an episode of Hand Tool Rescue how he’s able to figure out not only how to dissect the piece but he also figures out how the damn thing works and all the adjustments!
I’m mesmerized by your knowledge of every tool that you do. You bring back life to tools I’ve never even seen in my 62 years. I’d love to see another old patent recreation. The ratchet wrench was pretty cool. Your work is awesome
Another great restoration. I haven't seen one of those saw sharpeners since I was a kid, more than 65 years ago.
your old lol
@@stuch77777 *You're*
@@j.r.millstone oh shit a internet spelling nazi.
@@stuch77777 an (snicker!)
Had a newer model Foley with my dad in a saw sharpening shop in the 70,s. Nice to know there still around and usefull
GOOD CALL on keeping the original paint!
This is probably the worst-sounding tool you've ever repaired
I'm deaf now. Thanks.
@@HandToolRescue lol that is some funny shit right there
I think you mean the best soundin-OH GOOD LORD I take it back, it sounds horrible.
You haven't seen his talkies.
Kevin Reardon 😂
Makes long form, education videos, zero fluff, and zero cringe voiceover. Also, is Canadian. Yes please
You have one of the best that Foley made. What a beautiful machine. I remember using one on our bandsaw blades with my dad when I was a kid. After he passed away my brother inherited it as I just didn’t have room. They were later model machines and not nearly the same quality as what you’ve got.
Grab 'em. Your brother isn't using them. Tell him you will sharpen his saws whenever he wants.
Good job!!! I love watching your videos because you always give so much character to each one! Good luck on future restorations!
The last part reminds me of the scene from the intro to Twin Peaks. The only thing missing is the music with the characteristic bass line.
I repaired a toilet with my Official HTR adjustable wrench. It worked beautifully to take off or hold old nuts/bots and put on new ones as I changed and updated all seals and anchoring bolts. I had so much fun that I then did the same to all the toilets in the house, upgrading everything to dual flush. The HTR Adjustable Wrench worked beautifully. It is now a trusted part of my toolkit.
I have a dual/triple flush toilet because one flush is not enough. Maybe I should get one of those official HTR adjustable wrenches.
Mister a beautiful restoration and you Safed the old machine 🎉🎉🎉
That intro gets me every time! 😁
Great job on the restore, as usual, and I can't begin to tell you how grateful I am you don't do muzak.
Thanks for all the videos. 👍
im so fn glad you made the 80s intro, a permanent feature
Meeetoo
You are amazingly talented with an impressive array of techniques to find, analyze, diagnose, take apart, restore and improve electro-mechanical machinery.
Next you need to find a retoother. Foley set up this saw filer to use the existing teeth to ratchet the saw forward. If the teeth aren't spaced exactly the filer will screw up the teeth. The retoother uses a rack gear to set the tooth spacing and the filer sharpens the teeth after they have been recut.
You show the filer sharpening a rip saw. It is fun to watch it filing a crosscut. It has to skip a tooth and the teeth are filed at an angle. Neat stuff. Glad you saved this old machine.
I noticed a couple of broken teeth, as well. But, it was probably just a demonstration, not a customer's saw. I am eager to see a re-toother in action.
Hey HTR: This rescue video is perfect timing, I'm picking up a similar filer on Friday. My hands are getting too old for the filing, so started hunting.... Great video.
Great series... I'm not alone in my tool repair mania.
Cheers
Jerry
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Please post a video of your acquisition, any cleanup, and operation. I have viewed every Foley-Belsaw video on UA-cam, and these damned machines are still a mystery to me.
Hand tool rescue, I think, is my favorite restoration channel on UA-cam. I can relate to this guy really well. My kinda people.
My father was an engineer. I wish he was still alive to see this video - he would have loved it!
Some guy made his living with that machine. Awesome!
And that guy undoubtedly had a wife yelling at him for running it late at night. Lol
Wow what a wonderful machine. Good work.,👍
I think preserving the paint was 100% the way to go. Without making it a measuring context, a great as my mechanics's channel is, he always destroys signs of use and character and leaves tools feeling lifeless. I like respecting the heritage of tools
Right you are! It took me years to realize that the eight hours or more I spent disassembling, cleaning, repairing, painting, reassembling and adjusting vintage American made vises actually made them worth less than if I had just left them as I found them. No discerning tool aficionado wants some half-ass "like new" restoration that paints over century-old finishes and destroys decades of patina.
It amazes me of the engineering behind the tools you recover. Just awesome
Was watching this in silence in college and burst into laughter at 4:12
no body seems to catch your STAR WARS joke. 😂😂😂😂
I'm old. I got it.
Oh I IMMEDIATELY though "That's gotta be the Falcon hauling ass out of Mos Eisley" and I was so giddy to be right.
Plane taking off!? Was that Star Wars? *don't know because I never watched any of them 😅
I love all the gratuitous parts fiddling you open with. Gratuitous parts fiddling is an absolute must for restoration video openers...
What a beautiful creation this is! Wish we had the market of olden days, where you had machines to maintain the machines that wore out. Instead of just buying new replacements all the time. Another awesome build, Eric. Thanks for giving these beautiful machines a second chance to prove their immeasurable worth!
If a threaded bolt is bent like that, you can sometimes straighten it quite a lot by adding nuts one by one and torque them hard.
My thought exactly. But I would heat the bolt, then use box-end wrenches to apply gentle leverage until the bolt is straight, then run the nuts or a die over the threads so that the straightened bolt does not eat the threads of the (aluminum?) knob.
lmao "holy shit theres a lot of knobs on this thing"
sexy twiddly knobs...
If you cant make it perfect, then at least make it adjustable.. how ever amount of screws, bolts, knobs and other adjustment thingys is bit excessive even for me.. then again this was "all in one sharpening solution" and if your customers had only one type of blades in use running sharpening operation was really quick.. setting it up took most of the time as mentioned, so big industrial city sharpener probably had several of these set up for each job after few years of business.
So many parts, but you made it. Awesome video 👏👏👏
it never fails to awe me that you can somehow get it all back together again at the end lol. I would have done forgotten where some of those pieces go lol
Your antics are unmatched in the restoration content game.
Finally. A tool that replicates the sound of fingernails down a chalkboard
Your videos are getting funny and very entertaining as well as educational. Great work!
I love how you put in those moments of Not Safe For Tools (NSFT). A little nut twist here … extra time for this slot. Yeah baby
Saw a comment on one of AvE videos. Had to check u out. I love old tools. My Grand Paw had me clean and care for his when he couldn’t. Learned about respect for them then. Wish I had kept em when he died. Hind site being what it is at least I have the memories of the knots knocked on my head for dropping em. Great vids.
I was a bit worried at 0:56 when you lost your knob. And the backdrop wall for the motor removal was...A bit plane. But it turned out looking pretty sharp. Love the videos. it's always a good day when one goes up.
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Always nice to see something made in my hometown. They cut huge amounts of wood here in MN. Recently "Mill City" has been a booming name in town and they even considered changing it back to Mill City. Pizza joints and bars were called Mill City. We even have a Mill City Museum. General Mills had a huge flour mill here, water powered. Ford was near it and they just closed that down a few years back. You can see most of that from the Stone Arch Bridge if you ever come here (or want to google it up). It's a railroad bridge originally now converted into a pedestrian and bike path. Very popular amongst the college crowd to cross the river. It's a beautiful scenic view.
Love your sense of humor. Really sets your channel apart!
4:13 I almost shot coffee out my nose.
xDDDD
12:18 thank you for leaving the whole thing in!
That's what she said.
That's the longest breakdown of any restoration I've ever seen. Thank God he's got the video to look back over
Still the best video intro on UA-cam and easily the only one that I purposefully watch all the way through every time.
Next on hand tool rescue:
The most complicated machine yet!
The worst "machining" noise to be found on UA-cam!
And 45 minutes of unscrewing a knob!
Screwing it on? Off? what the.... STOP "SCREWING" WITH MY EMOTIONS!!! LOL
Awesome job you did restoring the saw sharpener. You got it working well again. Great work.
It amazes me the number of intricate parts associated with so called old-technology.
Dude, you seriously have to make a video that shows how you keep track of all the parts and fasteners and where they all belong. I lose my mind just trying to think of how I would accomplish that. #BehindTheScenes
Thanks for another great video, and oh, while I'm thinking of it - did anyone else notice the "nipple rub"? Maybe it was just my own warped mind LOL.
That would be a great video for us to see how he organize his work.
It's almost like he has a video of the tear down or something crazy...
It's easy. Download a copy of the exploded parts illustration from VintageMachinery.org; enlarge the drawing 500 percent (life-size); glue the enlarged drawing to a sheet of plywood; as you disassemble place each piece where it belongs on the drawing. Hope somebody doesn't kick the plywood.
That is amazing 😁
Ahh Foley Belsaw! I remember the magazine adds in the 70’s! Find your fortune in saw sharpening and small engine repair! A veritable goldmine awaits!
I always find it amazing that someone has to build machines to make/maintain other machines. Making an item is one thing, but designing a machine to make that item is even more work and even harder.
With all the extremely complex moves this machine makes, I wouldn't even know where to start.
This tool does NOT remind me of Twin Peaks!
Other than that; awesome restoration!
Ooo Garbage on the Floor! I can tell this is going to be a good episode.
Very nice work. I'm sure that sharpener made someone a lot of money back in the day.
Hats off to the designer(s) of this contraption, quite some abstract thinking going on there!
Love your work!!! Wonderful resyorations of old and beautiful machines. If you will ever need help machinning small parts - I will be honored to end a hand and help, if possible.
@0:39 Me trying to start a rental car.
@0:41 Me avoiding all my responsibilities in life.
The satisfaction of bringing an old machine back to new life, and making it work again, makes all the work well worth it. Great job.
Another A+++ video/rescue! Love to see the old tools sparkle once again!
Maaan this thing is so complex, how do you keep track of all the pieces?
Put them in a tote and watch vid in reverse probs
@4:13 Ya dirty fastener fondler.....
You saw nothing.
Yes we did
@@elliepascoe5954 I know "I" did! My eyes are still burning! Oh, wait, that's the clorox I used to wash the sight out!
I think I had a small stroke at 10:40
Jokes aside, absolutely top notch restoration. To see it in action at the end, amazing! Thanks
One of your more interesting restorations. It used to be Friday afternoon in most shops was devoted to maintaining and sharpening tools. I guess when labor costs got so high it became more economical to throw out rather than sharpen them. Too bad, I always enjoyed the ritual of cleaning and sharpening tools, blades, drills, cutters, etc. Thanks for the video and time for reminiscing!
*Very Impressive*
but how to use Redstones?
One of those tools which looks like you need a degree in engineering to operate, with many seemingly independant rods, levers, thumb screws, springs, doohickies and thingamabobs flapping about 😄
Right?
It's so meditative watching you bring these old neglected machines back to their former glory. I'm loving it, keep up the good work.
Holy Toledo! You would need an advanced degree in mechanical engineering just to operate this thing...amazing machine!
I have 2 Foley bell saw machines I need the handsaw carriage's. Mainly the toothed rack bar's made up "machined" they set the pitch Foley offered 4 or 5 different pitch bars this included speciality. Would Hand Tool Rescue be interested?
Maybe THEY would be louder?
I saw a forum comment describing the dimensions of the carrier pieces so you can make it yourself. If there is any response to this comment, I will reply with the dimensions.
"Pt 2 The Sneakiness" .....ha ha ha
I'd guess it was designed by a clock maker after watching it in action.
I thought it was designed either by madman or genius but after hearing it "sing" I'm sure it's torture device with practical use.
Yes, it includes pieces from a grandfather clock, a power hacksaw, a flywheel from a hit n' miss engine, and a bucket of screws and bolts swept off the floor of the Curtiss Wright factory.
I dunno. I like the sound it makes. It's consistent instead of random metal screeching.
That's one of the coolest tools I've ever seen.
That non metallic gear is probably made of tufnol which is like micarta but uses phenolic resin, smells like absolute death when machining/sanding the stuff🤢
If it's tufnol it could contain asbestos.
@@biglebowskee so it's the good stuff then
It could also be made from Formica
(11:30) cutting metal on the most flammable working bench in the world🤣
LOL. If only that bench could speak 🤣🤣
Quit an ingenious apparatus !
Gorgiously restored!
probably the coolest functioning machine you've ever resotred!
James Parker, I do believe that your "resotred" needs restoring.
Coolest machine you've done. Hands down. Other than the inglorious racket it makes, it's totally hypnotizing to watch.
Wow, now that one was a tough restoration. I watched the whole video and still couldn’t figure out how it worked until you showed it working.
Great call on saving the original paint. Can you imagine designing this thing or buying one new? Awesome. Stuart 🇦🇺
Fascinating to watch it work when finished. Cool to see an old Minneapolis company represented on a refurb! I enjoyed it all, thank you!
manlyminnesotan ya I enjoyed it also , my grandma retired from Foley in 69 !
Thanking you for a great video I'm in my 60's now but I remember I was 6 years old my dad would sharpen his saws from a tool like that, And the noise it would make and hearing that sound again brings a tear to my eye thinking about my dad and mum.
So glad you liked!
Excellent! I do like the way you sympathetically restore items. Leaving the original paint was perfect.