Thanks for this! I am a returning player who hasn't played since 2009, so I was super confused about the differences. Glad to know I am not crazy! The leveling up really is faster in the new version.
@@Sryker absolutely! Leveling up is almost a bit of a class trial in retail honestly. The game is very focused on end game which to be fair is the best end game in the MMO genre. But if you want that slower old-school adventure in a new world vibe then classic might be your jam.
Great video, I just started playing retail and am really enjoying it, but I think deep down I want that classic experience. Time to heal my inner child and finally grind some classic WoW.
I'm just now wanting to start playing WoW again. I use to play it when only Classic existed. I tried retail recently and just wondered where is all the nostalgia I remember, it was totally different. All the cities that use to be packed are wiped out. Only now realizing it's because I dived into retail & the nostalgia I was looking for is actually in classic. I'll probably be switching back and forth between the two. But Classic is definitely my favorite due to the nostalgia and leveling, alone.
I was debating on trying the new one over classic. I started a long time ago when burning crusade released and played through cataclysm. I remember my last day, we did the cata raid and after that raid most guildies got good drops and I logged out without telling anyone. Just...logged and uninstalled. It was eating up my life and time I'm now in a spot where I own a house and have a good job and over the years my thoughts have wandered back to wow and I decided to redownload...I started on retail and I was blown away how easy money is to obtain and levels and first night I breezed to level 30. Think I'm gonna go back to classic and return to raiding maybe build a guild like I used to have. I definitely don't look forward to building my pvp twinks and leveling multiple characters back to max. Guess classic it is then.
Thank You for that. I will go with classic. When WOW has been release 20 years aago that was for me one of the best gaming experiance ever which I could not find anywhere else later. I missed that so much. I have tried retail version few years ago but that was completely different with group finders and all that "help full" stuff. I couldnt found myself there. I couldnt find the same journey Ive had 20 years ago. Now I need to decide if I wanna go hardcore or not :D
I played retail only for about 9 years. I played Vanilla Classic/Hardcore and when I went back to play retail it wasn’t as fun to me. I think i like being a regular dude then slowly becoming a hero, instead of being a demigod in retail who decimates all content until the endgame. I like exploring all the zones, and fully completing quests in an area.
I never played WoW but have always been curious on what would be good for me. I’ve been talking with a few of my buddies seeing what version to get, thanks for the helpful insight going with retail!
I just started WoW a few months ago and have 1 max level in retail and 1 character about level 40 in Classic and can say I find Classic a lot more fun. I feel like in Classic the game starts at level 1 whereas in retail the game starts at level 70, and I just don't enjoy that approach quite as much
That's pretty much spot on friend! Classic definitely brings something special that just can't be replicated in retail these days. Thanks for watching!
Never played Wow, dabbled in the starter edition about 5/6 years ago, didn’t find much interest in it overall and since picked it up via classic mode first as I got stuck in the conversation of which is better and I’m glad you mentioned the time useage of both versions, I’m now heavily contemplating doing the switch to retail but I may stick with classic a little while longer but again 40 hours working a week and plus a 2 year old son doesn’t leave much for playing 😂 either way thank you for this video dude massive help 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@redrobin1996 time is everything these days 😅 They are both great games don't let anyone tell you different they are just hating lol. Glad this might have helped and if you have any questions feel free to give me a shout!
Awesome video man answered all the questions I had short and sweet. I'm new to wow. As in the last few days. You should do some wow beginner mistake videos
The part where you said "I don't PvP so don't ask me about it" is when I pressed the Subscribe and like button. I had to chuckle. I HATE PVP but all wow vids seem to include it or make it the biggest part of the the vids.
I bought dragonflight (actually pre-ordered war within) and I can't get into it. I wish I could like it but ultimately after 1h or 2 I just go back to classic
Hello, I'm thinking about starting WoW again. However, I'm worried that I won't get those "magic moments" in Retail like I do in Classic, since Retail is kept extremely simple (I recently played WoD and it was too easy for me). Now what's the reason why you don't play retail?
Same thing. I paid for War Within and got a toon auto leveled to 70. The entire game is just sitting around that dragony city and listening to arguments about mythic this and that. You do one and nobody talks, everyone rushing and cursing. I got a random guild invite and some guy bought me a 20,000 elephant mount, whined about raid keys, then hit on a girl in discord and was booted, so I left. Pure toxic teenager trash. I'd rather hunt boars for three hours.
Hello, I'm thinking about starting WoW again. However, I'm worried that I won't get those "magic moments" in Retail like I do in Classic, since Retail is kept extremely simple (I recently played WoD and it was too easy for me). What should i do?
I played the classic in 2007 until BF3 came out. Man I would play it all over again it was so great playing in the worlds, the music, stories and the diffulculty. You do get sucked in the game for hours. Trying going offline was even hard because it keeps teasing you to play further 😛
@@Vizzient yep! and longing to go home to go and play. Discussing everything about the game with friends teaming up also 😀😀 great times! that was our only worries those days. 😅
As a new player it just seems like retail is a no brainer. I understand the appeal for someone whos played since they were kids like with me and OSRS but from someone whos never played wow before, retail seems like the one to go with.
I played classic mostly solo up to wotlk and joined a guild that shit talked me for accidentally pulling mobs from the tank with a hunter ability. I had no idea it was my first time being in a big group and they had the guild leader and people messaging me making me feel like shit instead of just telling me. Quit wow that day and haven’t been back
@@themasterkey3 That's what I'm thinking. Idk if I want to do wrath because it's just going to be shitty cata soon. If I have a character on a classic era server can I move it to a seasonal server?
i just came back after the zalandari expansion lol i am so lost, it went straight to dragon flight , now installing classic to see what on earth have i dont to my characters by starting the dragon flight thing, hopefully i didnt lose anything ... its installing slowwwwwlly
Amen 🙏! I play both games, but retail is getting out of hand for ‘new’ players, classic is the way for me, retail is so overwhelming for the new players out there, al the expansions, it’s a big maze, classic is the way for me at least the most of the time, I buy every expansion tho but that’s a collectors thing I guess 🤣 great video keep up the good work.! ‘24
I get that. Luckily nothing is really time gated anymore however it DEFINITELY gets repetitive content wise at the end no doubt about it. Thanks for watching!!
classic:very hard for new players . you're so weak that you need other players to lvl up. if you're in a server with few players you're not going far in the game . you need other players so you have to talk to them its slow pace. retail:you dont need other players to lvl up to 70 at 70 you need other players to gear up fast. its fast and easy it feels overwhelming cause so much quests,activities. you can play interserver groups so no need to be on a populated server. the only problem in retail is players want go fast for every activities . the mentality is more solo focus if you're not in a guild . not lots of social interaction. i play retail cause sometimes i prefer playing solo and chill .
Nail on the head. Classic definitely going to be an eye opening experience for new players especially if they start with retail first. Two boars is just too much 😂😂
@@Vizzient Indeed. Part of me wanted to go Classic because I wanted to experience the game as it was back then and sorta "see what I'd been missing" and pretend it was 2004 again, kinda like playing Runescape Classic. But your argument about Dragonflight being ongoing is very solid too, as I wanna play the version that is still being updated. Question though. When I log onto my battle net account, I have the choice between WoW and WoW Classic. Is the one just called WoW secretly the Dragonflight version?
@@PikaLink91 yeah WoW without classic will always just be the current edition. As of tomorrow that will technically be The War within which is looking pretty great!
@@Hesperos-v Nope! Just the one sub which is really nice. For the current expansion though you would have to purchase that. But just so you're aware the new expansion is looking/playing really well!
Most reasoning online for enjoying Classic is based on nostalgia. It has nothing to do with which game is actually better to play, especially as a new player. Classic is very tough compared to Retail which can turn new players off. And the game basically cannot be played without add-ons and guides. Retail can be played without ever checking a guide or installing an add-on.
Im a new player and i enjoy classic more than retail. In retail im just rushing to lvl up and everything seems so easy im playing it because of the expansion tbh. In classic is more slow and i like that enemys dont scale with the lvl i have. I just wish i could have friends to play with but still, i find people in the worls to play with.
I despise the modern WoW. I played around ten years ago, so I'm biased to the old style. All these millennials with their flashy lights and boops, makes an old man grumpy!
Classic gameplay outshines the shiny graphics of retail. Retail is not an MMORPG; they killed all the RPG and MMO aspects. Its just a soulless MOBA now. No social aspect, no value to explore. Hell, major cities are EMPTY in retail. The sweet spot is Classic WoLK.
@@Vizzient well like you yourself talked about character progress in classic instead of how it is in retail how u are immedietly super powerful. I find it ludicrous how u can in retail be lvl 1 and killing dragons with other maxed out characters, you should start from boars and move up not immedietly jump from tutorial island to kill dragons, giants etc it just feels wrong just like in runescape u start by killing goblins and then move onto giants its logical. My own personal experience in retail wow I started from tutorial island killed some murlocs there now 20 levels higher I see murlocks again oh wait its those guys lemme go mess with them and then they kill me... So wait I killed these guys in tutorial zone and now when im 20lvls higher they killed me?? Make it make sense... I should one hit those fucks i killed them already in tutorial zone.
@@Vizzient I understand the "level up anywhere you want" , "play whatever content you want" , "play with friends regardless of level gap" but I still find it wrong that you are killing dragons straight from the jump after tutorial😂 Whats your take on it? I would like to know am I alone on this one...
Retail players absolutely despise even considering that some people would prefer a slower and more grounded MMO. They cannot stand that, to some people, endgame isn’t the their entire focus. With that being said, classic players can be delusional too. Seeing classic players saying classic is harder than retail is hilarious.
Bro actually said "classic is nothing to write home about graphically" and then said "retail is a phenomenal looking game" in the same breath without bursting into laughter. My brother, I realize you have been playing this game for over 15 years as you have stated, but have you not played or even just looked at anything else that's come out in that time? Bdo, FFXIV, lost ark, hell even guild wars 2 looks considerably better...
Great video! This is what I’ve been looking for to give me the short and sweet on why to play each.
Thanks for this! I am a returning player who hasn't played since 2009, so I was super confused about the differences. Glad to know I am not crazy! The leveling up really is faster in the new version.
@@Sryker absolutely! Leveling up is almost a bit of a class trial in retail honestly. The game is very focused on end game which to be fair is the best end game in the MMO genre. But if you want that slower old-school adventure in a new world vibe then classic might be your jam.
Great video, I just started playing retail and am really enjoying it, but I think deep down I want that classic experience. Time to heal my inner child and finally grind some classic WoW.
Super helpful and to the point. THANKS!
I'm just now wanting to start playing WoW again. I use to play it when only Classic existed. I tried retail recently and just wondered where is all the nostalgia I remember, it was totally different. All the cities that use to be packed are wiped out. Only now realizing it's because I dived into retail & the nostalgia I was looking for is actually in classic. I'll probably be switching back and forth between the two. But Classic is definitely my favorite due to the nostalgia and leveling, alone.
Thanks for info. Haven’t played since I was a kid over 10+years. Def going to play Classic. Love the grind
I was debating on trying the new one over classic. I started a long time ago when burning crusade released and played through cataclysm. I remember my last day, we did the cata raid and after that raid most guildies got good drops and I logged out without telling anyone. Just...logged and uninstalled. It was eating up my life and time I'm now in a spot where I own a house and have a good job and over the years my thoughts have wandered back to wow and I decided to redownload...I started on retail and I was blown away how easy money is to obtain and levels and first night I breezed to level 30. Think I'm gonna go back to classic and return to raiding maybe build a guild like I used to have. I definitely don't look forward to building my pvp twinks and leveling multiple characters back to max. Guess classic it is then.
Thank You for that. I will go with classic. When WOW has been release 20 years aago that was for me one of the best gaming experiance ever which I could not find anywhere else later. I missed that so much. I have tried retail version few years ago but that was completely different with group finders and all that "help full" stuff. I couldnt found myself there. I couldnt find the same journey Ive had 20 years ago.
Now I need to decide if I wanna go hardcore or not :D
I played retail only for about 9 years. I played Vanilla Classic/Hardcore and when I went back to play retail it wasn’t as fun to me. I think i like being a regular dude then slowly becoming a hero, instead of being a demigod in retail who decimates all content until the endgame. I like exploring all the zones, and fully completing quests in an area.
I never played WoW but have always been curious on what would be good for me. I’ve been talking with a few of my buddies seeing what version to get, thanks for the helpful insight going with retail!
Yessir! AND with the sub fee you will also get access to classic so if you ever want to try it you can. Lemme know if you have any questions!!
Thank you great video in the first 5 minutes I already have a rough idea of what I want to do now or plans for future .
Appreciate that friend glad it helped. If you have any questions feel free to HMU!
very good review, thank you man ☺
I am a new WoW player. Thank you for the valuable insight. Great video!
I just started WoW a few months ago and have 1 max level in retail and 1 character about level 40 in Classic and can say I find Classic a lot more fun. I feel like in Classic the game starts at level 1 whereas in retail the game starts at level 70, and I just don't enjoy that approach quite as much
That's pretty much spot on friend! Classic definitely brings something special that just can't be replicated in retail these days. Thanks for watching!
Never played Wow, dabbled in the starter edition about 5/6 years ago, didn’t find much interest in it overall and since picked it up via classic mode first as I got stuck in the conversation of which is better and I’m glad you mentioned the time useage of both versions, I’m now heavily contemplating doing the switch to retail but I may stick with classic a little while longer but again 40 hours working a week and plus a 2 year old son doesn’t leave much for playing 😂 either way thank you for this video dude massive help 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@redrobin1996 time is everything these days 😅 They are both great games don't let anyone tell you different they are just hating lol. Glad this might have helped and if you have any questions feel free to give me a shout!
Awesome video man answered all the questions I had short and sweet. I'm new to wow. As in the last few days. You should do some wow beginner mistake videos
Good video, I'm coming back after original cata so it's been a minute.
@@psyopticprodigy2427 yeah that's definitely a while! But WoW is in a great spot on all fronts right now so you can't really go wrong.
Lol first minute of the video already so relatable. Forums just confused me more than anything. 😂
The part where you said "I don't PvP so don't ask me about it" is when I pressed the Subscribe and like button. I had to chuckle. I HATE PVP but all wow vids seem to include it or make it the biggest part of the the vids.
I bought dragonflight (actually pre-ordered war within) and I can't get into it. I wish I could like it but ultimately after 1h or 2 I just go back to classic
Hello, I'm thinking about starting WoW again. However, I'm worried that I won't get those "magic moments" in Retail like I do in Classic, since Retail is kept extremely simple (I recently played WoD and it was too easy for me). Now what's the reason why you don't play retail?
Same thing. I paid for War Within and got a toon auto leveled to 70. The entire game is just sitting around that dragony city and listening to arguments about mythic this and that. You do one and nobody talks, everyone rushing and cursing. I got a random guild invite and some guy bought me a 20,000 elephant mount, whined about raid keys, then hit on a girl in discord and was booted, so I left. Pure toxic teenager trash. I'd rather hunt boars for three hours.
Hello, I'm thinking about starting WoW again. However, I'm worried that I won't get those "magic moments" in Retail like I do in Classic, since Retail is kept extremely simple (I recently played WoD and it was too easy for me). What should i do?
Classic vs Retail Andy's!!
I played the classic in 2007 until BF3 came out. Man I would play it all over again it was so great playing in the worlds, the music, stories and the diffulculty. You do get sucked in the game for hours. Trying going offline was even hard because it keeps teasing you to play further 😛
@@BattleLev LOL I remember it making me hate school so much more because I just wanted to play 😂
@@Vizzient yep! and longing to go home to go and play. Discussing everything about the game with friends teaming up also 😀😀 great times! that was our only worries those days. 😅
As a new player it just seems like retail is a no brainer. I understand the appeal for someone whos played since they were kids like with me and OSRS but from someone whos never played wow before, retail seems like the one to go with.
Ty Sir! Great help.
1:00 "play whatever you want idc" lmao
I played classic mostly solo up to wotlk and joined a guild that shit talked me for accidentally pulling mobs from the tank with a hunter ability. I had no idea it was my first time being in a big group and they had the guild leader and people messaging me making me feel like shit instead of just telling me. Quit wow that day and haven’t been back
Classic is almost always the answer.
Dragonflight good but classic might be gooder 😎
Bingo
But which classic?
@@Adam-bj7tk Almost any version of Classic is better honestly...
@@themasterkey3 That's what I'm thinking. Idk if I want to do wrath because it's just going to be shitty cata soon. If I have a character on a classic era server can I move it to a seasonal server?
i just came back after the zalandari expansion lol i am so lost, it went straight to dragon flight , now installing classic to see what on earth have i dont to my characters by starting the dragon flight thing, hopefully i didnt lose anything ... its installing slowwwwwlly
WOW does everything better than everyone is this dude's favorite line.
Amen 🙏! I play both games, but retail is getting out of hand for ‘new’ players, classic is the way for me, retail is so overwhelming for the new players out there, al the expansions, it’s a big maze, classic is the way for me at least the most of the time, I buy every expansion tho but that’s a collectors thing I guess 🤣 great video keep up the good work.! ‘24
You can treat Retail as a normal playthrough.
It is great until you come to the daily grind and timegate part.
Enjoy unto that point.
I get that. Luckily nothing is really time gated anymore however it DEFINITELY gets repetitive content wise at the end no doubt about it. Thanks for watching!!
I love Classic.
i would recommend classic if ur new to wow, if ur not new and don't feel lost then play retail.
classic:very hard for new players .
you're so weak that you need other players to lvl up.
if you're in a server with few players you're not going far in the game .
you need other players so you have to talk to them
its slow pace.
retail:you dont need other players to lvl up to 70
at 70 you need other players to gear up fast.
its fast and easy
it feels overwhelming cause so much quests,activities.
you can play interserver groups so no need to be on a populated server.
the only problem in retail is players want go fast for every activities .
the mentality is more solo focus if you're not in a guild .
not lots of social interaction.
i play retail cause sometimes i prefer playing solo and chill .
Nail on the head. Classic definitely going to be an eye opening experience for new players especially if they start with retail first. Two boars is just too much 😂😂
can you move a character from classic into retail wow if you decide to?
No
Def doing classic
You can play both, sure… but I know this is a game you can put a LOOOOOOT of hours into, and don’t wanna dedicate all those ours to TWO games.
@@PikaLink91 playing both especially if you want to raid consistently in both is definitely a bit overwhelming
@@Vizzient Indeed. Part of me wanted to go Classic because I wanted to experience the game as it was back then and sorta "see what I'd been missing" and pretend it was 2004 again, kinda like playing Runescape Classic. But your argument about Dragonflight being ongoing is very solid too, as I wanna play the version that is still being updated.
Question though. When I log onto my battle net account, I have the choice between WoW and WoW Classic. Is the one just called WoW secretly the Dragonflight version?
@@PikaLink91 yeah WoW without classic will always just be the current edition. As of tomorrow that will technically be The War within which is looking pretty great!
Do You need two separate subscriptions to play classic and retail?
@@Hesperos-v Nope! Just the one sub which is really nice. For the current expansion though you would have to purchase that. But just so you're aware the new expansion is looking/playing really well!
Osrs player here. 10 in game days of playtime for endgame sounds like a breeze 😂
Right? You can tell he is used to retails spoonfed xp 😂 Took me months of OSRS to reach where I am now, and I still feel mid-level 😂
Most reasoning online for enjoying Classic is based on nostalgia. It has nothing to do with which game is actually better to play, especially as a new player. Classic is very tough compared to Retail which can turn new players off. And the game basically cannot be played without add-ons and guides. Retail can be played without ever checking a guide or installing an add-on.
Im a new player and i enjoy classic more than retail. In retail im just rushing to lvl up and everything seems so easy im playing it because of the expansion tbh. In classic is more slow and i like that enemys dont scale with the lvl i have. I just wish i could have friends to play with but still, i find people in the worls to play with.
I despise the modern WoW. I played around ten years ago, so I'm biased to the old style. All these millennials with their flashy lights and boops, makes an old man grumpy!
retail wow is not worth the time investment for what it proclaims to give you back it is designed to keep you on an endless loop..
I can’t stand the way Retail looks. Too cartoonish and the animations are so bouncy.
Classic is not? You absolutely no credibility after that ridiculous statement.
@@play030 no it‘s not. compare these two - compare the walk animations for instance.
I‘d suggest you play both games first to before commenting
Exactly what I'm saying
Classic gameplay outshines the shiny graphics of retail. Retail is not an MMORPG; they killed all the RPG and MMO aspects. Its just a soulless MOBA now. No social aspect, no value to explore. Hell, major cities are EMPTY in retail.
The sweet spot is Classic WoLK.
I don't have the bank roll to buy illegal wow gold to play classic wow I don't p2w so dragon flight for me.
Lol I wish this wasn't a little true but...
Dragonflight is a meme, the game is far too easy
Classic > Retail
The only reason im thinking about classic is ZONE SCALING I fucking HATE that shit so much
@@Cenajohn654 yeah you'll definitely be getting some scaling in retail no doubt. What makes you hate it so much? 😆 Just curious
@@Vizzient well like you yourself talked about character progress in classic instead of how it is in retail how u are immedietly super powerful. I find it ludicrous how u can in retail be lvl 1 and killing dragons with other maxed out characters, you should start from boars and move up not immedietly jump from tutorial island to kill dragons, giants etc it just feels wrong just like in runescape u start by killing goblins and then move onto giants its logical. My own personal experience in retail wow I started from tutorial island killed some murlocs there now 20 levels higher I see murlocks again oh wait its those guys lemme go mess with them and then they kill me... So wait I killed these guys in tutorial zone and now when im 20lvls higher they killed me?? Make it make sense... I should one hit those fucks i killed them already in tutorial zone.
Tldr theres no sense of progression when everything scales...
@@Cenajohn654 right on I get it. I feel both ways about it personally so always curious on other peeps thoughts.
@@Vizzient I understand the "level up anywhere you want" , "play whatever content you want" , "play with friends regardless of level gap" but I still find it wrong that you are killing dragons straight from the jump after tutorial😂 Whats your take on it? I would like to know am I alone on this one...
10:48 truuuuuuuue
TRUUU
Had 10 minutes to play classic this morning and I logged in and killed some quest mobs and got xp don’t agree with that point at all
This review felt extremely biased. The retail section was just pure glazing and random jabs at classic...
Didn't really help with my decision at all.
I play old content in wow
None Of'em don't give money to thrash Blizzard
Retail players absolutely despise even considering that some people would prefer a slower and more grounded MMO. They cannot stand that, to some people, endgame isn’t the their entire focus. With that being said, classic players can be delusional too. Seeing classic players saying classic is harder than retail is hilarious.
To me, Classic=MMO & Retail=ARPG... To be fair they are both the best at what they do. But yeah some people can't accept other ways to have fun 😆
Bro actually said "classic is nothing to write home about graphically" and then said "retail is a phenomenal looking game" in the same breath without bursting into laughter.
My brother, I realize you have been playing this game for over 15 years as you have stated, but have you not played or even just looked at anything else that's come out in that time? Bdo, FFXIV, lost ark, hell even guild wars 2 looks considerably better...
But he's not comparing wow to other titles. Your point in useless.
Subjective
Biased ahh video