Flush Base & Trim-Less Doors - Secrets To Modern Details

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 262

  • @jlanemiller
    @jlanemiller 2 роки тому +56

    Just did a 1/4” architecture reveal(shadow gap) both top and bottom of all walls and around all doors in my personal house. Did all the work myself. Extremely difficult detail to pull off, and it’s worth it. The look is amazing. The walls look like they’re floating since there is no connection between floor wall and ceiling. I’d do it again, although I’d possibly test out different methods and products. I used trimtex products and was very happy with it.

    • @MaximusMerideus
      @MaximusMerideus 2 роки тому +10

      I would love to see pictures of the finish job.

    • @LightGesture
      @LightGesture Рік тому +1

      @@MaximusMerideus same.

    • @JonesersRX7
      @JonesersRX7 Рік тому

      Have level 5’d most of my house (over a terrible skip trowel done by builder). Have used a ton of trufig outlets and some cool trimtex F bead for LED channels. Wanted to do what you did in mstr bath on ceiling but my concern was code. Not a builder but wall to lid has to be tapped and mudded, no?

    • @VP411Designs
      @VP411Designs 7 місяців тому

      Awesome, I'd love to see a step by step video to how it was setup and done if you decide to share much appreciate it!

  • @macgyver03ga
    @macgyver03ga 2 роки тому +14

    Trim/Paint tip to add to this that we did in my personal house I just built. Your painter will thank you for this. When you’re setting trim, use a drywall knife so ever so slightly space your baseboard off of your floors. They’ll be less than 1/16th of an inch off the floor, just enough for the painters to run their masking tape UNDER the baseboards ever so slightly so you don’t see any accidental bleed over drips that might get onto the floor.

    • @kswas2784
      @kswas2784 2 роки тому +5

      A much better idea that saves a TON of time is to permit the painters to come and prime and first coat all the trim while it is still in stock lengths. They can finish it in 1/10 of the time and then only have nail touch ups after it's installed.

    • @TheMrchuck2000
      @TheMrchuck2000 2 роки тому

      @@kswas2784 except when you have to scribe every foot of trim anyway, that is…!

    • @travisstorbakken1737
      @travisstorbakken1737 Рік тому +1

      Put down painters paper first. Then set trim on it.

  • @kelstra1997
    @kelstra1997 28 днів тому +1

    Before I retired I spent my entire working life in the Architectural profession in Australia. Obviously I have a very strong preference for modern design and its details. As such I totally applaud what you have achieved with this. Some of your trim mouldings are slightly different to what we have here but the result is pretty much the same. Having said that, your flush skirting is a new one on me but I certainly like it. The difficultly for us is that where you use 5/8'' (16mm) plasterboard (dry wall) we generally use 1/2'' (13mm) or even 3/8'' (10mm) which means our skirtings (base boards) are going to be pretty thin.
    There are others in Texas who go to extreme lengths to use the most complicated timber mouldings everywhere and while I admire their workmanship I certainly don't share their taste. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

  • @Josh-Teder
    @Josh-Teder 2 роки тому +6

    Love focusing on modern builds. This is my fav style of home, keep videos on modern homes coming!

  • @billcunningham8485
    @billcunningham8485 2 роки тому +10

    Great video. Super interesting understanding the added details and cost that goes into “simple” and “clean”. You really have to find the right contractors as I would believe not everyone has this level of detail, experience and skill.

  • @rogerhodges7656
    @rogerhodges7656 2 роки тому +2

    I first saw these details 40 years ago in Laguna Beach CA. All done with metal corner beads, J moulds and homemade products. This was long before all the Trim Tech accesories were available.

  • @MichaelM-to4sg
    @MichaelM-to4sg 2 роки тому +53

    So true, modern “trim-less” finish is far more labor intensive. Properly executed, nothing can touch the look, especially here in Boulder area where the Frank Lloyd Wright look sells.
    You are however missing a MAJOR step in process to truly execute the complete finish. You need to flush mount your switch & outlet cover plates. Obviously we are in a very different price point than Austin but I think even there, the customer willing to pay for L5 drywall and trim-less baseboards and casings would at least like the option of the truly clean integrated look of flush cover plates.
    I hate to mention company names that aren’t you sponsors for fear of upsetting your commercial agreements but I don’t believe you have a sponsor in this sector thus I’ll mention the 2 we’ve used; Design Mod and Trufig. The former is honestly cheap pia and not recommended. We used them on one home and my subs said never again. We’ve been using Trufig on every home the last 4 years. Much higher priced but incredibly adjustable and the finish product is amazing. They’ll even custom machine plates for unique switches such as the Pass & Seymour Adorne line square switches, although lead times can be problematic, depending on your job and schedule.
    If mentioning brands conflicts with any of your sponsors, feel free to delete or alert me and I will do so. My apologies in advance if that is case.
    Regardless, do yourself a favor and look into this style option for future trim less jobs. Your customers will appreciate the efforts.

    • @jlanemiller
      @jlanemiller 2 роки тому +2

      I’m in the Boulder area as well. I looked into trufig as it seems like an amazing product, and really wanted to go with it. It would have been about $20k just for outlets and switches on my project. That is just way too much for most people. I do agree with you on going that route if it’s in the budget, and there are definitely people in this area with that budget. One house near me is spending $2M just on landscape.

    • @idontthinkso666
      @idontthinkso666 2 роки тому +4

      As a furniture maker, I can appreciate and understand the obsession over details. So why not obsess over switch plates and outlet covers? Anyone can see why these are a poor idea. Just walk around your own house and look at your switch plates and outlet covers (and door knobs and door edges, etc.). I guarantee you that they are covered by oily fingerprints, smudges, scratches, chips, minor damage, etc. But these switch plates and outlet covers can be easily replaced for $1.15 each.
      The flush mount switch & outlet cover plates by Design Mod and Trufig are VERY expensive to replace. And one of the major premises for using flush mount cover plates is to make outlets, switches and more to "disappear." But normal daily wear & tear (fingerprints, smudges, scratches, chips, etc.) actually shows up MORE and looks WORSE on flush mount cover plates.
      In reality, flush mount cover plates are just like ridiculously oversized kitchen islands and waterfall countertops--another form of conspicuous consumption. While design choices are clearly a matter of opinion, most people that I’ve spoken to find flush mount cover plates to be jarring and odd looking, not at all an aesthetic improvement.

    • @BryanTorok
      @BryanTorok 2 роки тому +1

      @@idontthinkso666 I kept watching this video and thinking, "Why?" It is a novel look for a house that is not really going to be lived in by the common folks, especially families with children, unless they can also employ full time cleaning staff.
      Of course, wood trim originated to fill or trim the gaps that standard construction either couldn't or couldn't at reasonable cost.

    • @tonyr7000
      @tonyr7000 2 роки тому

      Michael, you aren't kidding about L5 drywall price. Im building in NoCo and Im finding that L5 is double the price of the standard textured application. Have you identified drywall installers who do an excellent job of achieving an L5 finish plus flush baseboard installation at a reasonable price?

    • @travisstorbakken1737
      @travisstorbakken1737 Рік тому

      ​@@tonyr7000 I'm a drywaller that does level 5 and flush mount finishes. It's expensive because if it's not done with great attention to details it looks terrible.

  • @Aepek
    @Aepek 2 роки тому +1

    Modern for me, and clients work for is: clean, sleek, detailed, aesthetically refined to the eye, warm industrial(not just sterile cold feeling), & has a very easy clean time (very important imo, like squared 5.5” base…..the tops collect dust and dirt like crazy and even more when painted trim white. Lots go w/ this style, but I try and talk them out of it, b/c year later might not look so “good” and can get same look w/ diff configurations)
    Always a pleasure watching your vids Matt. Love what your doing for the trades!
    Also, hate when boxes filled w/ mud when gotta do sparky work, it’s a let peeve of mine, b/c it can be avoided w/ taking a few steps during electrical rough in, and drywall prep (imo)

    • @ian9toes
      @ian9toes Рік тому

      I agree with a squared base board collecting dust but only takes a couple of minutes to dust off with a paintbrush an entire open plan living area. I reckon this flush trim trend looks very sterile like a hospital or something.

  • @MarkR874
    @MarkR874 10 місяців тому +2

    We’ve done something similar but with the door jambs we had the door shop kerf the face of the jamb at a 1/4” reveal and ran the jambs the same width as the framing. Then we used mud beads and ran one leg into the kerf on the jamb. It doesn’t give the completely flat look but is another way to do a trim less look. It looks like the Sheetrock dies onto the face of the jamb. We used soss invisible hinges to give it that sleek modern look as well. And yea, these details are exorbitantly more expensive.

    • @donovangray5823
      @donovangray5823 7 місяців тому

      Hi Mark, Im in the process of ordering door jambs, I want to the most minimalist look possible. That means I only want the door to show and not the jamb or frame or Kerf. It's easy to do that with Aluminum or steel frames, but I have not seen that with wooden James or kerf. Your post is interesting, it looks like you may have solved that problem? are you able to share some pictures of your doors and how you overcame that problem?

  • @noncorporeal1
    @noncorporeal1 2 роки тому +5

    If you use an applied bead the bead and mud add 1/8" to the thickness of the drywall so if you use 5/8 drywall you need 3/4" trim to flush.
    If you cannot get the reglet bead, rabbit the base and use a deep reach tearaway bead. The framing need to be almost perfectly flat or you need room to shim the base or drywall to each other for a straight flat finish

    • @TheMrchuck2000
      @TheMrchuck2000 2 роки тому

      So true. Using Frye Reglet, I had to shim nearly every stud to compensate for irregularities. Built-up 1/16” ram board strips behind the aluminum. This kind of work HAS to be flawless, or it just looks sh-t. God, I’m having flashbacks…

  • @brandonm1726
    @brandonm1726 2 роки тому +9

    Great content! Trim-less supply vents are also cool. Our clients love them! "Cardboard sheathing that some builders use"...shade 😆

    • @JonesersRX7
      @JonesersRX7 Рік тому

      Can you recommend anything for cold air returns? Have a 20x20 filter and looking for a solution. 14x14 supply vents with separate dampers are my solution there but having a tough time finding a 42x20 and the 20x20 (fits two 20x20 filters). Have a quote request in to envisivent. Open to other solutions.

  • @joelw6215
    @joelw6215 2 роки тому +1

    Working on a house in auburn Alabama with a trim less detail and ULTRA modern details on cabinets, lights, fixtyres etc. love it and love
    That. I can basically tune in ans get tips :)

  • @blakehorn229
    @blakehorn229 2 роки тому +72

    Modern is so difficult. It's laughable seeing guys on Facebook knock modern as cheaper...they haven't tried(and failed...and tried again...and learned) the difficulties that comes with pulling off a proper modern install

    • @Bob_Lob_Law
      @Bob_Lob_Law 2 роки тому +10

      That is the problem. It looks cheap, but it is not.

    • @dondumitru7093
      @dondumitru7093 2 роки тому +25

      Of course modern is more expensive. The PURPOSE of trim is to HIDE the transition so the that transition doesn't have to be perfect. Trim is an evolved solution to the problem of how to hide irregularities in an affordable way.

    • @blakehorn229
      @blakehorn229 2 роки тому +5

      @@dondumitru7093 well put!

    • @TheMrchuck2000
      @TheMrchuck2000 2 роки тому +1

      This is so true. And I really like this guys’d channel.

    • @notlessgrossman163
      @notlessgrossman163 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly, modern has many difficult details. Flush transitions is a risky proposition in design. Forget doing this with wood stud construction.

  • @itsgabegutierrez
    @itsgabegutierrez 26 днів тому +1

    Looks nice and clean. For me though it's not worth the extra work and expense. Traditional trim looks beautiful. BTW, level 5 drywall is a b**ch! You think you're done until you shine a bright light at an angle and you see all the imperfections! Haha

  • @jdd880
    @jdd880 2 роки тому +4

    If you're a Homeowner or Builder on a hi-end project going with level 5 smooth wall, strongly consider Fry Rigglet (aluminum).

    • @MaximusMerideus
      @MaximusMerideus 2 роки тому +1

      *Fry Reglet

    • @TheMrchuck2000
      @TheMrchuck2000 2 роки тому

      That’s what I used. It’s really good AND really $$$, but if you want it done right…

  • @harveypaxton1232
    @harveypaxton1232 26 днів тому +1

    Trim less looks unfinished but the beauty of it , it is your house to finish however you would like. For the ROI is bad. It is a trendy niche market.

  • @ZachAshcraft
    @ZachAshcraft 2 роки тому +30

    Definitely appreciate the amount of planning and skill that goes into this, but for my money I’d prefer some classic craftsman looks or a modern take on it.

    • @buildshow
      @buildshow  2 роки тому +8

      I don’t disagree. I did a hybrid traditional/contemporary trim design at my house

    • @philwort1873
      @philwort1873 2 роки тому +4

      @@buildshow would love to see a Similar walk through to this one at your place with your trim package and how you staged that aspect of your build. Great video matt!

  • @Aepek
    @Aepek 2 роки тому +1

    @matt risinger as much as love watching you on UA-cam and all, your build show website is awesome especially the team you have collected and allow them to host videos. Reminds me of the old days of this old house, the new yankee workshop, & other shows grew up watching b/c PBS was only station allowed to watch growing up, otherwise…..it was: go outside and play till dinner, just don’t come back w/ anything broken 😉 Nothing like how things are today, especially when there are no trees/woods behind your house (or field, neighbors house, etc) you can explore and play in when live in HOA and the neighborhoods w/o concrete fences and subdivisions are hard to find when don’t live in certain areas

  • @philleach6271
    @philleach6271 2 роки тому +2

    If you have done this before make sure your base board is an 1/8 thicker than your sheet rock - remember the plastic detail trim is around an 1/8 .
    In metric we use 13 mm wall board and 15.5 to 16 mm base board.
    And yes I’ve done around 2000 m of this detail, it’s time consuming hence expensive.
    Love the trimtex Mat wish we could get them here in New Zealand
    PS just installed a house lot of Brombal windows- WOW that stuff is fantastic.
    You visited a project a while back with that- are you going to do a follow up?

  • @lynnh7694
    @lynnh7694 28 днів тому

    Our house was trimless, i installed the trims myself, and it made the house more formal in my opinion.

  • @kschleic9053
    @kschleic9053 2 роки тому +29

    I would be interested in seeing a video about how to do these modern details 90% as good for 25% the cost... In the same vein as the recent spec home airtightness video.

    • @daveklein2826
      @daveklein2826 2 роки тому +3

      LMAO

    • @cdurkinz
      @cdurkinz 2 роки тому

      You would just not level 5 all the walls. Use cheaper materials, you could likely use 1/2" drywall and 1/2" thick trim and do less work there. Would still be a little more expensive tho as it is more work for everybody to get flush baseboards and casings. As the trim's entire purpose is to hide those unfinished edges, instead you're now finishing those edges and flushing them up to the trim. Getting the reveals perfect, etc.

    • @triggeredtroll6466
      @triggeredtroll6466 2 роки тому +4

      I think most of it would be how easy you could make it on the trades. First of all, im yet to see a house with straight flat walls and straight flat floors (under 2 million). If you are going to use solid 1x you will be able to see every dip in the floor. So now you have to hire the expensive concrete guy and framers, and im assuming use a more robust or higher quality studs and joists. Then, you have to convince drywallers to install it exactly 6" up, all around the house. The trades ( that Matt doesnt use) dont get paid crap. In my area, the more skilled trades get about 200$ a day cash, thats working 8 hrs of physical labor in texas heat. No sick time, no vacation time. If they paid taxes then its 35% less than that.
      So the ones that are highly skilled and have a good rep, can do matts houses, and take all the extra time and call backs to make it perfect. And they are probably paid accordingly.
      But if you were to build a house, it would be hard enough finding fair priced decent labor to even show up.
      So if you wanted to achieve matts details, it would be more about the trades than the actual materials, in my opinion

    • @srt4b
      @srt4b 2 роки тому +3

      90% as good for 25% of the cost does not exist. It's all in the labor and labor is up 100-300% over 2019 in most trades. Finish carpenters are the most expensive day rate you will find. Cheaping out at all on this will result in wavy work.

    • @TheMrchuck2000
      @TheMrchuck2000 2 роки тому

      @@srt4b yep.

  • @jayhawkmba
    @jayhawkmba 2 роки тому +2

    You inspired me to try the flush base, revel in my basement. Getting ready to but floor and base in. Here in atlanta, hard to find trim tex w/o a special order and the ENTIRE box which is too much waste @trimtex
    Anyone need 5/8 x 1/2 revel...got plenty

    • @macgyver03ga
      @macgyver03ga 2 роки тому +1

      Hard to find a lot of the the “unique” stuff he talks about on the show here in Atlanta. I had to order a lot of things online when I built my house.

    • @jayhawkmba
      @jayhawkmba 2 роки тому

      @@macgyver03ga exactly. Online went away I believe

  • @damianokon6209
    @damianokon6209 2 роки тому +1

    Would love to see a video of how the painters go about painting the wall in the area where it transitions to base moulding!

  • @leewoodrough242
    @leewoodrough242 2 роки тому +1

    Kinda reminds me of my 140 year old victorian. After the plaster was leveled to base boards then the actual trim was applied on top.

  • @eden5260
    @eden5260 Рік тому

    I need a channel like this one but with UK construction.
    Great content thanks

  • @DrTopLiftDPT
    @DrTopLiftDPT 14 днів тому

    Be cool to see the visual example of the video topic in the first second of the video

  • @sussex1066
    @sussex1066 2 роки тому +2

    Matt, have you ever looked into AluBase Shadowline by EZ Concept? We love the reveal detail on flush baseboards and will be doing it on our upcoming custom build. The AluBase is a single product that has the reveal bead already built in - not sure if it’s a cost effective product, working on getting pricing.

  • @Tettoffensive
    @Tettoffensive 2 роки тому +1

    Would love to see the process on a remodel where your removing trim and replacing with trim-tex on a window for example. Which bead would you recommend for that?

  • @AS-gp9kg
    @AS-gp9kg 2 роки тому +6

    Id love to see flush outlets and switches. Idk if thats a thing but it sounds trick. Imagine flush rectangle Luton Maestro..

    • @zachpw
      @zachpw 2 роки тому +1

      Check out Bocci flush outlets. They look pretty stunning but the install is a bit ridiculous.

    • @MichaelM-to4sg
      @MichaelM-to4sg 2 роки тому +4

      We do this on all of our trimless houses. The added cost in labor and materials is substantially higher. Our customers choose upgraded switches as well, commonly Pass & Seymour Adorne or Buster & Price, the result is usually $80-125k upgrade. The aesthetics is unmatched for the cleanest, timeless look

    • @HFGCS
      @HFGCS 2 роки тому +1

      imagine some kind of flush small utility box with a door that closes and is seamless- ie you'd mount your outlet inside the box and close the door- the door is the coverplate and can be opened to conveniently access additional outlets and other (think coaxial, fiber, ethernet) inside the enclosure, or the door could be replaced or modified to add outlets for them. The entire home could be wired up this way with redundant and extra capacity, with all electrical components fully grounded inside of a metal enclosure, and only wire running between them. This could substantially improve fire safety and if an outlet burns out, replacement would also be easier.

    • @srt4b
      @srt4b 2 роки тому

      I have done these once, never again. Have to charge around $400/outlet in total to make any money. Inspectors hate them as well. Do a few in kitchens now only.

    • @MichaelM-to4sg
      @MichaelM-to4sg 2 роки тому +3

      @@srt4b Have you tried the Trufig? With their adjustable depth, they are actually quite simple. Yes, plaster guys need to do a really fine job floating walls around each outlet but it’s something they’ve accepted at this point. No doubt the price is substantial but we’ve never had customer decline once they see the end result from previous job. We did a 4’ x 2’ mock-up maybe 2 years ago now so customers can see the finish during planning stages. We’re fortunate to be in a market that supports this level of workmanship.
      If all you’ve done is DesignMod plates, I agree, never again. The Trufig is a vastly superior and adaptable design.

  • @AM1015-
    @AM1015- 2 роки тому

    Matts been hovering around the sub million mark for ages now, almost there Matt! keep up the good content

  • @anonymous..-
    @anonymous..- 2 роки тому

    I like the belt and suspenders approach to that trim.

  • @markpetri3405
    @markpetri3405 2 роки тому +4

    In my experience, many doors rely on the trim to stabilize the jambs to prevent twisting. Do you see the flex caulk providing the same amount of stability?

    • @renelopez8227
      @renelopez8227 Рік тому +1

      I don't think it would need any additional stabilization. Not that what you're saying isn't the case for some installations, but I don't see a properly built jamb (with possibly higher grade lumber) bowing to a point where it would need bracing along the edge. If you notice, even their "paint grade" lumber is custom milled poplar

  • @jdstarsuper
    @jdstarsuper Рік тому

    I’m sure this was sponsored by Trim Tex but last quote I got was .70/foot from them and just over $1.40 for aluminum trim from Fry Reglet. For that difference I’ll take the real stuff any day of the week and twice on the weekend.

  • @mr.e8432
    @mr.e8432 29 днів тому +4

    While I appreciate the work and skill that goes into the modern style trim. For me personally, it just looks terrible. Too industrial looking. I wouldn’t wanna live in a house like that. I’m just an old school guy. Give me a nice Second Empire, or Queen Anne, style. I know it’s completely out of style, but I’ll take 8 inch high, quartersawn, white oak baseboards, multi section crown mounding, and gorgeous plasterwork any day.

  • @marcfruchtman9473
    @marcfruchtman9473 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much for this interesting video.

  • @GoogleMe-en9sg
    @GoogleMe-en9sg 20 днів тому

    Perfect if you want your house to look like an office building.

  • @douglaspellerine8945
    @douglaspellerine8945 Рік тому

    Nice work you are on the ball 🙌. As a contractor the cost $$$$$$ .

  • @timrozenboom
    @timrozenboom 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Matt
    Great video, long time subscriber and always learning better methods thanks to you. I have a modern 20k sf home I’m preparing to build for a client. I’d love to see a video on integrated gutters with in wall downspout. A builders nightmare! I’ve heard many horror stories but haven’t see fist hand a bulletproof way to pull this off. Got anything? Thanks in advance!

  • @metaldad4694
    @metaldad4694 Місяць тому

    Love trim Tex products.

  • @tonyr7000
    @tonyr7000 2 роки тому

    Matt those flush baseboards are really something to behold. When you install these do you only recommend white wall & trim paint to match the baseboards (although I assume you apply flat paint on the walls and a satin finish on the trim)

  • @KenJones1961
    @KenJones1961 Рік тому

    My remodel is fairly detailed with chair rail, crown molding, wainscoting, etc., but wanted no shoe molding. Boy, talking about a pain in the butt! The floor had to go down before the base that complicated a lot! Can't imagine going full trimless. Though, I suspect there is a LOT less cut-in while painting. 😀

  • @westleywest7259
    @westleywest7259 2 роки тому

    Matt, do you have a show on HGTV? If not, WHY NOT? Always great info bro 😎!

  • @tlit3284
    @tlit3284 Рік тому

    Thank you so much for video 🙏🏻

  • @ardenthebibliophile
    @ardenthebibliophile 2 роки тому

    Oh man so much more work for modern trim. I feel like it looks to sterile for me, personally, but it's neat to see how it comes together!

  • @Chicago_Clout
    @Chicago_Clout 2 роки тому

    Thank you.

  • @clydenakashima7393
    @clydenakashima7393 2 роки тому +1

    I just watch on you tube Shoyan Japanese Carpenter; he is building a Japanese house. It is very interesting how they build a house in Japan. It is a timber frame type of building with mortise and tenon but with bolt and nuts no pegs to hold the joints and the building comes from the factory with all the mortise and tenon cut in.

  • @ronmelcher4723
    @ronmelcher4723 2 роки тому +10

    Nice! However, i would love to see the base be left nature wood, same species as the floors

    • @TommyBoy7Heads
      @TommyBoy7Heads 2 роки тому +1

      That's an interesting idea!

    • @buildshow
      @buildshow  2 роки тому +2

      Haven’t done that. I like that idea

    • @srt4b
      @srt4b 2 роки тому +1

      lots of commercial building have this detail. It's fine. Hides the vacuum scuffs as well.

  • @wendya1580
    @wendya1580 2 роки тому +1

    Our 1942 house has a "flush base" and a shoe at floor itself, cover the edge of the oak floor. We painted it white, like the rest of the trim. Pops with the color on the walls.
    Walls are lath-and-plaster. When the electricians tried to cut into the wall, the dremel just skipped over the surface. The house is solid--doug fir framing, external trim is (old growth) redwood. External stucco was made from local river sand.

  • @lgbfjbsupporter5566
    @lgbfjbsupporter5566 2 роки тому +2

    Dont you see that bottom leg of the F bead sitting on top of the poplar? I know this is kind of a nit picky detail but these folks who like and willing to pay for these details tend to be of the nit picky breed in my experience. I was thinking Z bead would be a better option. Run a slot in top edge of the base first with a router and a 3 wing slot cutter. Over cut the slot depth a bit for some wiggle room to adjust the bead up/down. The slot should also help keep the drywall and base flush/co-planer if the framing is off a touch. This would also allow you to NOT have to paint the base incase the owner likes the look of matching the base to the floor which also might look good. I also agree, between cost of the ubber expensive FRy reglet plus the extra labor costs it becomes a detail reserved for the 1% Been a long time user of trim-tex and love all the options and price point.

    • @renelopez8227
      @renelopez8227 Рік тому

      Maybe bc the poplar is being painted to match that f bead won't be visible?

    • @lgbfjbsupporter5566
      @lgbfjbsupporter5566 Рік тому

      @@renelopez8227 Most paying what Matt charges would still notice plus it gives dirt one more crack/ledge for dirt to collect. which over time will cause the seam/joint to become a black/darker line against a white background and stick out like a sore thumb. Also if painting after as the video shows you would also have to worry about expansion contraction more and vinyl tend to move A LOT and at a much different rate then wood. So if the bead contracts and or expands a little later it has the potential to develop a hairline crack between the bead and base, once again making a black line. Since the joint between the F bead and the base is near the face it will show much more easily. With the Z bead any movement/cracking issues will be near the back "and" will be hidden much better by the shadow of the joint. Sorry but the Z bead is a much better detail on all levels and since there is no price difference between the F and Z bead why not choose the better of the 2 options.

  • @barrybatchelor44
    @barrybatchelor44 2 роки тому +4

    Why wouldn't you just paint the trim boards first or at least prime them? Much easier to paint and cut into primed lumber.

  • @anishamm685
    @anishamm685 2 роки тому

    Nice Intro Music. Classy, contemporain

  • @mrsoccergod5001
    @mrsoccergod5001 2 роки тому +1

    What brand is that white oak floor, love the look

  • @Stickmanght
    @Stickmanght 2 роки тому +1

    Matt may have made a small finish detail mistake using the Big Stretch caulking as he describes in this video. I want to stress the "may" part of this. As a professional house painter I rarely even suggest Big Stretch for interior finished detail joins like this, as it is designed to stretch, a lot (as the name implies). This can cause the finished paint film to crack as the caulking underneath it moves as the differing material move with age, and house movement. I save the Big Stretch for exterior use, and use a caulking that isn't as flexible for interior details, such as described here. Since Matt is building such nice, custom houses, this is one detail that could cause a call back a year, two, or 5 down the road. Again I stress the may part, as the crack he is filling looks to be small enough to not matter.

    • @CarbideEndMill
      @CarbideEndMill 2 роки тому +3

      Using a timber jamb pocket door and tear away bead for that finish is the wrong detail to start with. There are pocket doors that have the jamb with a bead already part of it, as one piece, ready to mud. Leaving no joins anywhere.

    • @Stickmanght
      @Stickmanght 2 роки тому +3

      @@CarbideEndMill This is good to know. Like I said I'm a painter. So I am not nearly so knowledgeable about the carpentry aspect of building. Which is part of why I like to watch these videos. I learn a lot, which I also like to do about pretty much everything.

  • @leizerposner3531
    @leizerposner3531 Рік тому +1

    Hi I was actually thinking of doing a detail like this with the tear away bead prior to finding this video, but was concerned if the doors are slammed that an immediate break line would be visible. How in your experience has the durability of this detail stood the test of time?

  • @jeffb321
    @jeffb321 2 роки тому +6

    Hey Matt. I'm a trim carpenter. Just curious what trim pricing came in per/ft2? I average around 3-$3.25 for a traditional style house...

    • @markbuildstx
      @markbuildstx 2 роки тому +1

      $3.25???? Where?

    • @jeffb321
      @jeffb321 2 роки тому +2

      @@markbuildstx des moines, IA metro

    • @markbuildstx
      @markbuildstx 2 роки тому +1

      @@jeffb321 what’s all included in that? All of this here in the video? I do purchasing for a builder and we are paying about .45 cents to install doors, trim, closet shelves, and attic ladders, hardware. A little extra for stairs. But nothing near $1

    • @fred1690
      @fred1690 2 роки тому

      @@markbuildstx sounds very cheap, they must all be illegals that work for you. working for free almost.

    • @jakefromstatefarm276
      @jakefromstatefarm276 2 роки тому +2

      has anyone ever answered you on the internet for pricing? time, plus material, plus overhead, equals cost

  • @donaldo1954
    @donaldo1954 28 днів тому

    I'm curious what with the internal doors are on that house 32 in, ?

  • @cjhiggi6018
    @cjhiggi6018 Рік тому

    Hey I’m from Indiana would love to visit this place and see what there all about

  • @jarodrolon4814
    @jarodrolon4814 2 роки тому

    Hey Matt can you make a video on protection and the products you use?

  • @justinrichards4329
    @justinrichards4329 Рік тому

    Beautiful work.
    What brand and color paint was used for this one if you don’t mind?

  • @nationsnumber1chump
    @nationsnumber1chump 2 роки тому +1

    Anybody have expirience with thier expansion joint product? As the climate gets worse I'm finding my 70's home with a ton of cracks in the drywall due to the clay soil drying up. Would that be a good product to use?

  • @uplife7024
    @uplife7024 2 роки тому

    Great content ❤️❤️❤️

  • @zaaz1471
    @zaaz1471 2 роки тому

    Just curious - the stairs are already in and they're really close to the wall but not touching - how do you get paint there? or will that just stay primed?

  • @Motoch3
    @Motoch3 Рік тому

    You are showing a different method of the flush base. Previously you had a z shadow bead and cut a rabbit on the back of the base to cover the edge. It looks like you use an F reveal this time. My question with the F reveal as it sits on the wood base do you see the plastic edge? The other method is the base overlaps. Anyone know?

  • @user-ny7vc6mb2n
    @user-ny7vc6mb2n 6 місяців тому

    Do you any distributor that ships to the US? None of my local distributors have the F reveal bead?

  • @spicypulls5829
    @spicypulls5829 2 роки тому

    Can anyone inform me how the vertical door jamb legs are wider than normal? I have tried discussing it with the various sellers of interior doors, and not one company seems to be able to provide the thicker door jamb for the finished case-less door look accomplished in the video.
    Much appreciated!

  • @johnbeyke8486
    @johnbeyke8486 Рік тому

    5/8 drywall would necessitate true 3/4 base because the “F” bead adds 1/8” at the bottom of the drywall. The bead is floated in....they won’t be in the same plane if you don’t order the base thicker!

  • @utta9274
    @utta9274 2 роки тому

    Hi Matt. I saw your video on the bug proofing. My house already has Tyvek up. Can I still use Zip liquid flash on the outside to prevent bugs?

  • @itsjuan800
    @itsjuan800 Рік тому

    @ 6:42 LoL 😂

    • @Gsmi87
      @Gsmi87 7 місяців тому

      lol went digging through the comments just for this

  • @davekao
    @davekao 2 роки тому +1

    Wouldn't this would impact the wall assembly's fire rating?

    • @buildshow
      @buildshow  2 роки тому +5

      Solid blocking at the base so it maintains the rating

  • @frankiec5500
    @frankiec5500 4 місяці тому

    I sent you a video because I think this is what we need to do. Let me know if you agree and I will get it set up for you.

  • @CADDCO
    @CADDCO 2 роки тому

    How do You maintain the Fire 🔥 Rating w a combustible Base ??

  • @alwaysvacationing5341
    @alwaysvacationing5341 2 роки тому

    Do drywallers have to remove the factory tapered edge at the bottom so the Trim Tex doesn't twist when it is glued and stapled along the bottom edge?

    • @srt4b
      @srt4b 2 роки тому

      They probably lay a cut sheet to start or feather it out, they are mudding the entire walls afterall.

  • @brainwater
    @brainwater 2 роки тому

    Wasn't trim first created to help cover those joins that were difficult to get visually right, making it easier.

  • @deadstick8863
    @deadstick8863 2 роки тому

    How do you get around the code requirements for gaps in the risers in that open stair? Looks like those risers have an open back of several inches.

    • @danielluc1
      @danielluc1 2 роки тому +3

      The gaps will still be less than the 4" minimum required by code, the reason the treads themselves on these kinds of stairs are so deep is make sure that is the case.

  • @stephaniewillson9383
    @stephaniewillson9383 28 днів тому +1

    What is tbe point for flush trim? Looks institutional and sterile. No thanks.

  • @parcostudio
    @parcostudio Рік тому

    The only way I see that base detail working is if you unscrew the plywood "seat" after the gyp. bd. is set. Is that the intent? Otherwise you have plywood flushing out with the finish face of the gyp. bd. and nowhere to park your F-bead.

  • @benwhittle7204
    @benwhittle7204 Рік тому

    This is probably a really silly question Matt, but why couldn't you just use the same type of drywall, cut in separate piece, in place of the poplar for the base boards?

    • @bryansamuel19
      @bryansamuel19 Рік тому +1

      Typically want a hardy material at the base of walls that can resist wear and moisture

  • @lrc87290
    @lrc87290 2 роки тому

    Put all aluminum reglets in my total renovation. Baseboard, doors, windows and ceiling.
    This would have been much easier.

  • @darrenthompson427
    @darrenthompson427 2 роки тому

    part of me likes the look but reminds me of a commercial space like a nice office building

  • @_JimmyBeGood
    @_JimmyBeGood 11 днів тому

    I’m sorry but I don’t think the modern stuff looks better than traditional. Sometimes you just can’t fix what’s already good and just because it’s been around for a long time doesn’t mean there is something better. Oak trees have been growing on this planet for millions of years and they still look awesome.

  • @ricric9521
    @ricric9521 27 днів тому +1

    Modern is great, but modern designs tend to translate that into less and less detail. The future of minimalist modern design is going be bare flat ceiling to walls from ceiling to floors. Cool, big plain boxes. Mmmm.

  • @KamiInValhalla
    @KamiInValhalla 2 роки тому

    A lot of work but looks great

  • @sliderfc3s
    @sliderfc3s 2 роки тому +5

    Here's hoping trimless never catches on

  • @bryanallo
    @bryanallo Рік тому

    Those baseboards are begging for LED light strips 😅🙌🏽

  • @stevenlight5006
    @stevenlight5006 2 роки тому

    Did u remove the plywood when popler was installed

    • @j10001
      @j10001 2 роки тому

      He would have to remove it. It’s in the spot the poplar goes.

    • @buildshow
      @buildshow  2 роки тому +1

      Yea. Correct

  • @Havoc4Hire
    @Havoc4Hire 2 роки тому

    No flush receptacles?

  • @icemanlol119
    @icemanlol119 Рік тому

    I did a high rise with this shadow trim detail what a pain in the butt

  • @oddopops1327
    @oddopops1327 6 місяців тому +1

    👍👍😉

  • @godbluffvdgg
    @godbluffvdgg 2 роки тому +1

    Rich weirdos concerning themselves with the mundane...I was doing work for a famous philly designer in the early 2000's. That flush molding stuff was a rage for a while...Our work is already stressful enough! Doing things that KILLLLLLL the time make it even harder to make a buck and finding guys that can produce it is like finding an honest politician...You really can't charge enough. You can make more money doing it the tried and true way, via production...I HATE that finish, just incase I'm being ambivalent...: )

    • @xX.D3DP00L_Xx
      @xX.D3DP00L_Xx 2 роки тому +2

      You sound like you've also had architects,builders, and interior decorators piss on your head and tell you it's raining. We should start a club

    • @godbluffvdgg
      @godbluffvdgg 2 роки тому +1

      @@xX.D3DP00L_Xx We'd have to have meetings in a Football stadium, ...:)

  • @AbRa285
    @AbRa285 2 роки тому +5

    Matt: Hey supply house, I need to order some cardboard sheathing
    Supply House: NO Way Matt. has inflation really gotten to your business?
    Matt: haha no! I need them to cover my finished floors.

  • @Zickafoose2024
    @Zickafoose2024 2 роки тому +1

    I think if you were to do REAL traditional moulding it would way more expensive.

  • @andyandyandandy9
    @andyandyandandy9 Місяць тому +4

    Not digging the new mondern details

    • @AretusSmithJr
      @AretusSmithJr 13 днів тому

      Probably because you don’t have a modern home

  • @mikejennen3117
    @mikejennen3117 Рік тому

    I like the look but don't have the patience or money for it!

  • @Matasky2010
    @Matasky2010 2 роки тому +7

    What a nightmare for everyone involved lol. Personally I appreciate the imperfection of natural textures and materials, a house like this is just waiting for problems to start exposing themselves.

  • @samfredo8140
    @samfredo8140 27 днів тому +1

    Is that a house or an office building? It looks very industrial and cold. Sorry but not for me.

  • @mr2981
    @mr2981 10 місяців тому

    Yeah, now in the sixteenth installment of flush base and trimless whatevers....

  • @oicfas4523
    @oicfas4523 Рік тому

    Kind of cool, but I personally don't care for this look. It would be nice for minimizing dust build up, though.

  • @tc1398
    @tc1398 2 роки тому

    If house settles after a while, those trim less gaps won’t look good.

    • @TheMrchuck2000
      @TheMrchuck2000 2 роки тому

      That’s why they’re extruded aluminum. It holds its shape fine.

  • @bigneilh
    @bigneilh 2 роки тому

    protect that railing huh?

  • @pheelers1831
    @pheelers1831 2 роки тому

    The doors are nice, I could do without the flush floor