The Hardest Offwidth Crack in Vedauwoo - Forever War

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  • Опубліковано 18 вер 2012
  • Edelweiss Ropes U.S.A. and Liberty Mountain present Pamela "Shanti" Pack climbing "the hardest offwidth crack" in Vedauwoo, WY...The Forever War 5.13c/d R. Pamela nabbed the first ascent of The Forever War in June of 2012.
    "The Forever War is an 85-foot pitch featuring 20 feet of inverted climbing through a steep roof, followed by overhanging arm-bars capped by 30 feet of 5.12a blue-collar groveling. Despite the two bolts, the route still requires a hefty rack." -Pamela "Shanti" Pack
    Read Pamela's account of the First Ascent on her blog: pamelashantipack.com/2012/06/15/vedauwoo-wy-pretty-damn-offwidth/
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  • @superheatsubcool
    @superheatsubcool 8 років тому +19

    Most Hard cores steer away from hard Off widths, because they are such a nightmare and a damn lot of work! Hats off Pamela, Incredible skill level. Thanks to her sponsors for helping such an incredible athlete.

    • @williamking7765
      @williamking7765 5 років тому +1

      Yep the sponsors mostly only care about sport climbers and boulderers. Alex Honnold and Hazel Findlay are among the few famous professional climbers who are brilliant all rounders.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 роки тому +3

      Ummm no.

  • @simonon-music
    @simonon-music 5 років тому +42

    Plot twist...what if the cams are normal sized and she is tiny and climbs a hand crack

  • @iPROxSN1P3x
    @iPROxSN1P3x 9 років тому +16

    Those cams are hilarious

  • @alextemus
    @alextemus 8 років тому +3

    Incredible! Man, I'm impressed, That is a sweet crack and Pamela just rocks it!

  • @rustyreynolds4961
    @rustyreynolds4961 11 років тому +1

    I looked this up after watching wide boyz, I am gonna go check this out as soon as I can. This video is shear inspiration!! This climber knows how to do it.

  • @halenball-vant1772
    @halenball-vant1772 2 роки тому +1

    Incredible route! Awesome, aesthetic line

  • @torreyintahoe
    @torreyintahoe 8 місяців тому

    I used to work for outward bound doing rock camps in vedawoo. I love that place.

  • @Jmotoslowboi
    @Jmotoslowboi 11 років тому +2

    Fantastic climb. Great job

  • @rockclimbdotpro
    @rockclimbdotpro 11 років тому +1

    Yes, we read an article and that was exactly it, she had a couple of head first falls that could have been way worse where she hit the rock below, hence bolts.

  • @YnseSchaap
    @YnseSchaap 9 років тому +1

    One word : Ludicrous ! what an epic way to tackle a problem

  • @bandgeek1321
    @bandgeek1321 11 років тому +3

    Awesome Climb! Its almost comedic how big those CAM's are.

  • @devkkev9066
    @devkkev9066 3 роки тому

    wow.. what an amazing climb.
    have a great day!

  • @connergiven89
    @connergiven89 11 років тому +1

    That invert sounds sick Pam, can't wait to get shown wayyyy up in Moab

  • @karsim83
    @karsim83 11 років тому

    thanks for the information!

  • @Libertymountainoutdoors
    @Libertymountainoutdoors  11 років тому +1

    Pamela says, "I placed a 9" Valley Giant at the lip of the route. It's the Edelweiss Curve Arc 9.8 -- it's my favorite Edelweiss rope! It's light, handles well and is tremendously abrasion resistant. You will love it!"

  • @DanieleNozari
    @DanieleNozari 11 років тому

    Wow l'aggancio di gamba mi mancava, favoloso!
    Wow I missed the attachment of the leg, fabulous!

  • @bighousej316
    @bighousej316 11 років тому

    JESUS THOSE CAMS ARE HUGE!! What a killer offwidth. And some SICK climbing!

  • @samsonite813ify
    @samsonite813ify 2 роки тому

    Vedauwoo is life. Catch me out there every weekend

  • @ralfrussel1950
    @ralfrussel1950 2 роки тому +1

    "Potential to fall head first onto a flake even on toprope."
    Still no helmet. Can somebody explain?

  • @nunooliveira49
    @nunooliveira49 8 років тому

    awesome line!

  • @kuhl374
    @kuhl374 11 років тому

    I dont know why people hate off widths so much. They are so goofy and creative to climb. this lady is my hero!

  • @DrSher
    @DrSher 7 років тому +4

    Holy cow!! Those cams are huge!

  • @evanphillipsak
    @evanphillipsak 10 років тому

    What a total badass.

  • @TheNamesChrome
    @TheNamesChrome 11 років тому +2

    This has the makings of a good climbing video. It had a good beginning (intro to the route and its story), a good middle (killer offwidthing), but no end. Did she send it? Where did the name come from? We could use some resolution.

  • @Mattmillerhahaha
    @Mattmillerhahaha 11 років тому

    those were some huge cams. good climb!

  • @alexmaness4138
    @alexmaness4138 Рік тому

    Love it

  • @karsim83
    @karsim83 11 років тому

    that is a crazy way to climb!

  • @Paulmtb
    @Paulmtb 11 років тому +5

    Why put bolts in ? Couldnt you use a few cams

    • @johnnycigar3240
      @johnnycigar3240 4 роки тому

      the crack flares outwards cams wouldn't hold

  • @isakkane97
    @isakkane97 11 років тому

    2 questions
    1. WHAT SIZE WAS THE BIGGEST CAM YOU HAD?!?
    2. is that the edelweiss curve rope?? and if so how is it? i just bought it and have not actually used it on any routes

  • @robinjones2345
    @robinjones2345 11 років тому

    Nice climb!

  • @grimlund
    @grimlund 5 років тому

    It must be the ultimate horror to lead a rout upside down. Holy crap.

  • @adventure4lifeRDH
    @adventure4lifeRDH 11 років тому +4

    you are an inspiration to all off-width climbers. I agree with steven, wear a helmet so you can keep climbing.

  • @TheMamadeira
    @TheMamadeira 11 років тому

    Wow! So cool! :O

  • @alcupone6462
    @alcupone6462 9 років тому

    She is so fearles fighter awesome

  • @terrail959
    @terrail959 9 років тому +3

    What is the second-half song? The internet doesn't seem to know!

    • @ltisrael
      @ltisrael 9 років тому +1

      "Lady Gaga" by Starside Casino

    • @user-rv8ji5pb5w
      @user-rv8ji5pb5w 8 років тому +1

      +Kester Alnilam
      Starside Casino - Lady Gaga

    • @roblux1
      @roblux1 7 років тому +1

      Darude - Sandstorm

    • @terrail959
      @terrail959 7 років тому

      Oh shucks little late but cheers guys!

  • @indigenousphallicsym
    @indigenousphallicsym 8 років тому +1

    wow surprised to hear a milonga used for music in a climbing video

  • @cjunk351
    @cjunk351 11 років тому +1

    GOD!!! that must have been tough on the camera person

  • @TheNamesChrome
    @TheNamesChrome 11 років тому

    Yeah, it slows you down... when you slide out of that crack and fall. Not everything is protected by bolt hangers on this route, only that one inverted section.

  • @olliojenarter
    @olliojenarter 11 років тому

    This needs to be subtitled for the people who just stumble across it. LOL

  • @cassidythomas1969
    @cassidythomas1969 10 років тому

    Anyone know the name of the song around 1:40

  • @bobbypatton4903
    @bobbypatton4903 8 років тому

    those cams are nearly artist in a way!

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 6 років тому

      Well considering there are only two people (was only one half a year ago) making cams that big in their garages, they really are pieces of art. Look up the newer ones to hit the market, Merlin #8s.

  • @digital-alchemist
    @digital-alchemist 8 років тому +1

    All you need is about $700 or $800 worth of cams, eh? ;) But seriously, that is some hardcore stuff. Nice work.

  • @AlaskaB83
    @AlaskaB83 11 років тому

    would be hard to impossible to protect that. Maybe with big bros but that might make doing the climb impossible. Vedauwoo has a pretty strong traditional ethic, so i am sure they wouldnt have been placed if they werent necessary

  • @bkbland1626
    @bkbland1626 5 років тому

    There's a bunch of hard off widths in Vedauwoo. That's kind of the whole place.

  • @charliedebach4022
    @charliedebach4022 6 років тому

    That huge cam that she was using in between crack after she was done narrating, would that even protect you from falling? Does it really make it that stable for you to take 160 lbs dropping 10ft or more? Idk that seems insane, theirs no way that cam could hold her fall..

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 6 років тому

      VGs can absolutely take big whippers. They are way over-engineered.

  • @northaunt
    @northaunt 11 років тому

    dat #6 cams !

  • @rustyreynolds4961
    @rustyreynolds4961 11 років тому +1

    Steve, though your concern is appreciated, she states on her blog, "more often than not I can’t fit in the offwidth with a helmet!" As for the misogynistic (christian paternal undertone) Honey, with love...? Unless you are dating her that is not appropriate. If you care to challenge her ability come on over to laramie and I will give you a ride to the climb so I can laugh as you fall out. This professional climber would put you to shame. Same offer goes to anyone else commenting like this.

  • @steveryan355
    @steveryan355 11 років тому

    those CAMS DOE!

  • @mertman1
    @mertman1 5 років тому

    Looks like a job for the Wide Boyz

  • @GhostofReason
    @GhostofReason 5 років тому

    Okay so Trango is bringing back the massive Big Bro #5 in limited runs once 100 people have preordered and we are at 32 so far. trango.com/p-356-big-bro-5.aspx

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 роки тому

      $300.00 for one 😂
      For that price you could buy enough board feet to sow up a 60m fatty.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 роки тому

      Before tax and shipping 😂😂😂

  • @AnonUser2023
    @AnonUser2023 9 років тому +15

    To all the morons complaining because she isn't wearing a helmet. 1) It's her choice. 2) It's not exactly a run out route by the looks of it. Good bolts and bomber cam placements that she can inch up with her as she goes. 3) Wearing a helmet on climbs like this often make it more likely you will fall off as it gets in the way and makes things harder.

    • @Metamere
      @Metamere 9 років тому +5

      ***** Yeah. She actually fell on the climb earlier and injured her kidney, and that's why she added the two bolts. Also, she mentioned in the video that she had to use her head as part of the move to get inverted, which might be tough to do with a helmet on. A couple of years ago I led an off-width climb aptly named "The Hangman" at Devil's Lake, and I couldn't fit my head through a narrow portion because my helmet got stuck. I had to take off the helmet to complete the climb. Either way, a helmet wouldn't have helped much if I had fallen while passing my head through a head-shaped slot in the rock. Still, I was glad I had it on the difficult to protect start of the climb.

    • @dianakate5808
      @dianakate5808 5 років тому +2

      I am a climber and a nurse and it is no fun taking care of head injuries. You are the moron. Wear a helmet when leading.

  • @nyczumazooma
    @nyczumazooma 11 років тому +1

    I want to know what brand of clothes she is wearing, so I can invest in the company. She must go through ALOT of cloths, pushing that stock through the ROOF!

  • @arthurski95
    @arthurski95 9 років тому

    ridiculously big cams !

  • @JulesBartow
    @JulesBartow 10 років тому

    The cameraman/woman probably rappelled down and is sitting in a comfortable harness. Just a guess.

  • @dariojoelvazano9295
    @dariojoelvazano9295 5 років тому

    i think that she has a infinite cam sistem.o o some thing like that!

  • @rikypanellaa
    @rikypanellaa 11 років тому

    all that you need is only some good friends!!!!!

  • @climbv15
    @climbv15 11 років тому

    It looks like you could climb it safely on just gear. How about hacking the bolts? :)

  • @bjaminbjamin
    @bjaminbjamin 8 років тому

    fkn a. luv it

  • @stguitarman99
    @stguitarman99 11 років тому

    dat cam!!! :D

  • @bergsteirer
    @bergsteirer 8 років тому

    This lady in a pilates instructor as well, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to book a lesson with her....

  • @peakaweek
    @peakaweek 11 років тому

    That upside down pivot doesn't look very straightforward to me!

  • @TheStzzo
    @TheStzzo 11 років тому

    Was that bolted on lead?

  • @brucegeisert
    @brucegeisert 10 років тому

    WOW. You hit that too the top?
    Tried with some I-bars,. Biggest Cam I've ever seen....
    VW is odd, for Off-with.

  • @flyingface
    @flyingface 7 років тому

    i broke my skull in Vedauwoo

  • @NoraOMalley
    @NoraOMalley 11 років тому +1

    does anyone else think placing that giant cam would be the hottest thing ever?

  • @johns3106
    @johns3106 7 років тому +3

    Something wrong with bolts next to a crack, no matter how horrendous a flared offwidth it is!

    • @TzeiTzei11
      @TzeiTzei11 5 років тому

      Same first thought. I'm in no position to say it's wrong rather than why?

  • @alma_libreix1261
    @alma_libreix1261 8 років тому +1

    helmet ??

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 6 років тому

      Headjam to get into the invert makes helmet a non-starter.

  • @karsim83
    @karsim83 11 років тому

    that's a lot of gear
    wont it slow you down

  • @ornerybuddha1
    @ornerybuddha1 10 років тому +2

    Super badass climbing! No helmet, seriously!?

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 6 років тому

      Would have been impossible to do the headjam to get into the invert with one on. There are quite a few offwidths that make helmets a non-starter. Pretty much any squeeze chimney is going to be like that unless you are a bit tubby or have a freakishly small head.

  • @willwilson2796
    @willwilson2796 11 років тому

    jeez, such small cams. haha

  • @johndtuttle
    @johndtuttle 8 років тому +2

    Props, but offwidths are one of the most body size dependent of any type of climbing. Therefore, pretty hard to rate.

  • @FabioSpelta
    @FabioSpelta 10 років тому +16

    I can't stop thinking "why the hell isn't she wearing a helmet being upside down like that"?

    • @bjaminbjamin
      @bjaminbjamin 10 років тому +3

      every had your head stuck because of the lip on the helmet... I have! I had to squish my helmet to get myself free

    • @FabioSpelta
      @FabioSpelta 10 років тому +7

      Yeah, everybody knows how dangerous wearing an helmet is, it should be made illegal.

    • @okkbiker
      @okkbiker 10 років тому

      Eben Daggett I think he meant if you fall while being upside down, you will hit your head on the rock first. Not rock fall from above.

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 9 років тому +1

      Fabio Spelta Hell, it's the rock climbing world. Be thankful (or not) that she's not free soloing with no protection!

    • @ryanreese3839
      @ryanreese3839 8 років тому +4

      +Eben Daggett Unless you are free soloing, you are making somebody else go and get help if you get hurt because you weren't wearing a helmet. Climbing is (mostly) a team sport, and not wearing the right equipment puts the team at risk.

  • @Pavuk112
    @Pavuk112 11 років тому

    Arse climbing :)

  • @yippeeWYyay
    @yippeeWYyay 11 років тому +2

    Nobody needs counseling but you, pal. A badass woman rocks a dirty offwidth, and your response is to condescend? You're not showing "Love and Care" if you're implying that a pro climber isn't smart enough to make her own decisions. And if anybody called me "honey" after rocking an OW like this, I'd kick his butt off the crag!

  • @chadnhender
    @chadnhender 11 років тому

    Dafuq did i just watch!!!

  • @user-iz8qf2zc5u
    @user-iz8qf2zc5u Рік тому

    по шкуродёру почти не переводится

  • @npuldon
    @npuldon 6 років тому

    that big cam is placed pretty horribly

  • @davidt2965
    @davidt2965 11 років тому

    cool but doesnt look too fun to me honestly just looks like a pain in the ass to climb like that

  • @user-ur2yg5uf5m
    @user-ur2yg5uf5m 5 років тому

    똥꿈이 간질간질 하겠다. 똥꿈에 해삼박는 기분이겠네.

  • @ryanreese3839
    @ryanreese3839 8 років тому +1

    A couple hundred dollars in cams but no helmet? Really?

    • @jcarlson08
      @jcarlson08 7 років тому +1

      Her head would have gotten stuck...

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 6 років тому +1

      You can't do the headjam to get into the invert with one on. Lots of offwidths make wearing a helmet impossible.

  • @johnmurrin9734
    @johnmurrin9734 10 місяців тому

    big deal

  • @benhefel3095
    @benhefel3095 Рік тому

    def not rated R, you can put a crashpad on a cam where you are scared of hitting your head. xD

  • @sket179
    @sket179 3 роки тому +3

    The song is unbearable, otherwise interesting climb

  • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
    @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 роки тому

    Worries about hitting her head.
    But doesn't wear a helmet.
    SMASH MY HEAD

  • @jeffv103
    @jeffv103 4 роки тому +1

    Lose the music

  • @cuntinakia8122
    @cuntinakia8122 9 років тому +11

    ANd again no helmet because of an ego that is too narcistic

  • @stefanheintzelmann5744
    @stefanheintzelmann5744 4 роки тому +1

    The music sucks complete! 🤢🤮