You guys are the perfect example of what friendship and passion can create together. Keep going guys, a big hug from Italy. Maybe one day i’ll can greet you in real life❤
Would be cool to log the map sensor on track and see if you get any positive air pressure (boost) from the new intake. The all motor ITB guys see about 1psi down track
Another advantage of the new intake setup, the headlight intake is no longer trying to pressurize the engine bay. You want air coming into.the engine bay across the radiator. When you bring it in from somewhere else, it's going to decrease flow across the radiator and make the cooling system work less efficiently. That was offset somewhat by the engine sucking up some of the hot air from the radiator, but that's obviously not ideal, plus that stops working while braking. With the new setup, the hood gets air only through the radiator, maximizing cooling flow.
Kinda like a supercharger, but instead of increasing boost with rpms, it does with airspeed😆. What if you modify the headlight like a velocity stack? Cheers from Greece✌🏁
My brother got his valve cover for his Ap2 S2000 powdered coated by Rock Star garage in Cali. His engine blew about two weeks later come to find out they outsourced the stripping on the valve covers and it was sand blasted instead of chemical stripped and never properly cleaned out. Never owned up to it or made it right so my brother ended up doing a k24 swap.
Seeing how far youve brought this car from when intially got it has been so exciting. From a ricer to a highly competitive race car. Keep up awesome work!
It is amazing, I’d hardly say it was a ricer initially though. It was a CTR replica and had the drive train and everything to back it up. Either way this has become my favorite civic on UA-cam
They always leave it out of the ads but it’s actually 110% guaranteed to make you perform better and if it doesn’t make you noticeably better you can storm their HQ for a refund
Imho, a really BAD IDEA. a bad mod from a non automobile engineer graduate. Manufacturers & Engineers will NEVER use screws INSIDE engine. They insisted on rivets dea locked. Even with loctite, With the extreme heat cycles and torture test these engines go thru, it will disintegrate, loosening the screws, and have just 1 screw dropping INTO you beloved engine. Take care.
Does the headlight intake not need a screen of some sort to keep track debris from flying in at speed and potentially blocking or damaging the pass through filter?
This and also you'll get problems when it's raining. We did run a Ram-Air intake on our 318ti Cup cars and switched back to the original location of these two reasons. We had to clean/change air filters after almost every session because of track dirt and when it was heavy raining the air filter did get soaking wet.
I love the new intake, the thing that worries me most is what happens when it rains... I remember a while back you actually soaked your filter during your race so now that u have an even more direct route to the filter whether that wont cause issues without a little drain hole?
Did you put threadlocker on those valve cover baffle bolts? You realy dont want one of those vibrating out and getting caught somewhere in the valvetrain
Great choice on the BMC. I love mine, first mod i did, don't regret it. Easy to find in Europe as well. Mine is the oval box and made for my swift sport. Came with a long flexible hose that I have right behind the grill. Has a plastic velocity stack built in too.
@@GearsandGasoline i use a k&n cleaning kit with mine. The BMC ones were twice the price. It sounds really deep and even in hot weather because of the ram not much difference. The carbon fiber helps keep some of the heat out too.
Hmm curious how this would do with forced induction so I could utilize a velocity stack and filter instead of just a turbo guard on a daily street n strip forged engine car (not to safe but sounds amazing 😉)... n e ways glad to see u are able to utilize this opportunity... l8z
I really like the idea of "mitigating" horsepower through a slightly more restrictive intake. Seems like the rally style of running a restrictor plate. A hole of x diameter can only flow so much air, but allows you to keep the afr targets more ideal.
New favorite channel due to this civic playlist. You’re super lucky to have friends like Mark, especially with his sense of humor. You are hilarious to watch as well as extremely helpful and informational. Thank you for making this channel/playlist. Been binging it for the past few days now. I NEED MORE
the fuse might be a bit too small for the starter. a reset-able fuse would be a better option on race car if want to use one. Also the mirror going to vibrate loose, common issue with setup like that.
14:55 Ladies, that guy in the far left whom I met at a gym singlehandedly lift my 200lbs weights when I was about to give up and crush my legs. I wanted to give him free lunch as a compensation for saving my life but he said no. Please give this guy some love.
Awesome music in this episode! You guys are great fabricators. Blown-up engines notwithstanding 😉😂 You experimented with intakes to gain 10hp and then de-tuned the fuel ratio and timing to lose 30hp??? 🫣🤷♂️ Isn’t there some kind of hood ram air scoop? Probably no room in the engine bay. I guess it would also increase drag. One would think it would be useful to have the air inlet a larger diameter than the pipe so you get a Venturi effect and ram more air in. I hope you put thread lock on those valve cover bolts. I’m just picturing a wee bolt vibrating loose and wreaking havoc with the valve train or trashing the camshafts.
Love to see the evolution of the Civic! The center rear view mirror could vibrate a lot with the extension. You probably should test that, before running in the next event 😁
Honda racecars should have red valve covers. It's pretty easy to get a fisheye rearview camera with a display mounted ergonomically in the cockpit, could also probably double as cameras for your purpose but ours aren't set to record. The display is nice to have on rearview, even just the peripheral vision and knowing there's a car alongside you has helped me many times endurance racing.
You guys give me great inspiration for the type of content I should produce, the quality of the video, audio and production in general is fantastic! Great effort
One of the nicest things about that new intake is less overall drag. Before, the headlight duct was just forcing air into the engine bay for the most part
Same effect as those clamps have, you can accomplish with 50 cents of zipties, just wrap them around frame when belt is in a right location. In the crash the belt wont go anywhere, if it was at the right position when tightening. But without clamping when you tighten your belt you could tighten in not enought, because the belt is in wrong position.
Would it be smart to loctite the bolts for the baffle on the valve cover? Seem's like there could be a possibility for a lot of valvetrain vibration transmitting to the cover and causing a bolt to backout
These are the types of uploads we can watch all day long. Well, pretty much anything will suffice. No need for just a once per week, just give us a quick one like this in between the main episodes & not only will we be entertained but you get the views for them as well.
Not sure if getting rid of the velocity stack is the way to go, the sharp edge at the headlight might cause more restriction than you gain back by the ram air effect. Also not quite getting the explanation, you are getting less air in and also planning to run leaner at the same time? Wouldn't it make more sense to just detune the engine by ignition angle instead? You also might want to try a front 3-point strut bar if you haven't yet, made a noticeable difference on my DC2 even with street suspension.
question: if the class you're running in also keeps a close eye on lap times to make sure no one is running a sneaky tune to produce more power than they should and therefore run faster than they theoretically should, why isnt a mod that changes the output of the car while on track legal in the class?
I hope you guys put Loc-tite on the baffle hold down bolts you just tapped, you think sand could damage your engine, what would a few solid bolts do? Just trying to help?
As you alluded to; driving improvement will bring the most gains. I suggest a simple data acquisition system, such as the AIM Solo or equivalent, so that you can discover where you can go faster.
Can you add a velocity stack style rounded edge to the headlight intake? Or do the the rules say you have to maintain the headlight form. Maybe not if you already put a hole in it.
Proper convex mirrors will be my first mod on my newly bought single seater. It took one race to conclude that its pretty scary to not see cars around you..
Is there any ducted air going to your front brakes? I only ask because that front bar looks like it only has 1 inlet for the rad/oil cooler. Do you think ducted brake cooling would help on a multi lap race on your car?
Thankfully it’s not needed in my case. I was overheating my old setup with the Porsche Rotors when the rotors were 24mm thick, bjt these stoptech rotors being 32mm thick hell the heat dissipation and allows me to run without brake ducts, which helps me keep drag at a minimum.
@@GearsandGasoline These little details cascading into each other are so cool. No wonder sometimes a small change can improve or worsen performance by multiplying the effects in multiple things.
um, what about when you race the car in the rains (again)? Is that new intake going to allow water to get to the engine, or does this set up have the ability to remove the water before it gets through the throttle body?
You guys are the perfect example of what friendship and passion can create together. Keep going guys, a big hug from Italy. Maybe one day i’ll can greet you in real life❤
Grazie!
Good point.
Something about this channel and these “working on the car” videos makes ME want to work on my car and I love it
Yeah the way they film the work itself always makes me want to go get stuff done on mine lol.
Would be cool to log the map sensor on track and see if you get any positive air pressure (boost) from the new intake. The all motor ITB guys see about 1psi down track
Another advantage of the new intake setup, the headlight intake is no longer trying to pressurize the engine bay. You want air coming into.the engine bay across the radiator. When you bring it in from somewhere else, it's going to decrease flow across the radiator and make the cooling system work less efficiently. That was offset somewhat by the engine sucking up some of the hot air from the radiator, but that's obviously not ideal, plus that stops working while braking. With the new setup, the hood gets air only through the radiator, maximizing cooling flow.
It was really great to watch the evolution of this Civic over the years. Really cool 🥶
It is crazy to look back and see how much is changed!
@@GearsandGasoline exactly!!
@@GearsandGasoline from wannabe stance car to K-powered race car
I think a trumpet (velocity stack?) on the pipe where it starts in the headlight would help a lot at speed, compressing the air further
Kinda like a supercharger, but instead of increasing boost with rpms, it does with airspeed😆. What if you modify the headlight like a velocity stack? Cheers from Greece✌🏁
My brother got his valve cover for his Ap2 S2000 powdered coated by Rock Star garage in Cali. His engine blew about two weeks later come to find out they outsourced the stripping on the valve covers and it was sand blasted instead of chemical stripped and never properly cleaned out. Never owned up to it or made it right so my brother ended up doing a k24 swap.
What incompetent asshats, they should've paid for the blown engine.
Seeing how far youve brought this car from when intially got it has been so exciting. From a ricer to a highly competitive race car. Keep up awesome work!
It is amazing, I’d hardly say it was a ricer initially though. It was a CTR replica and had the drive train and everything to back it up. Either way this has become my favorite civic on UA-cam
@@popupheadlightsI think he means when he bought it originally. It was definitely ricer spec before it was a CTR replica 😂
I like to use manscaped when I’m not performing well.
They always leave it out of the ads but it’s actually 110% guaranteed to make you perform better and if it doesn’t make you noticeably better you can storm their HQ for a refund
Blue chue lol
@@ungloryhunter gas station rhino pills give you super powers
@@codydunnell7951 try this with liquor
I love seeing the progress of this Civic.
It ignites my dreams to see your dreams coming alive.
Now to see you succeed at the track.
Loctite those baffle bolts so vibrations don't back them out.
and make sure it's an oil-resistant loctite too
Red loctite is what I see most people use on those baffle bolts, especially since they hang upside down under the valve cover.
Imho, a really BAD IDEA. a bad mod from a non automobile engineer graduate. Manufacturers & Engineers will NEVER use screws INSIDE engine. They insisted on rivets dea locked. Even with loctite, With the extreme heat cycles and torture test these engines go thru, it will disintegrate, loosening the screws, and have just 1 screw dropping INTO you beloved engine. Take care.
Does the headlight intake not need a screen of some sort to keep track debris from flying in at speed and potentially blocking or damaging the pass through filter?
This and also you'll get problems when it's raining. We did run a Ram-Air intake on our 318ti Cup cars and switched back to the original location of these two reasons. We had to clean/change air filters after almost every session because of track dirt and when it was heavy raining the air filter did get soaking wet.
I love the new intake, the thing that worries me most is what happens when it rains... I remember a while back you actually soaked your filter during your race so now that u have an even more direct route to the filter whether that wont cause issues without a little drain hole?
Why not use threadlock on split collar bolts? The rollcage reverberates a lot with the car vibration.
Did you put threadlocker on those valve cover baffle bolts? You realy dont want one of those vibrating out and getting caught somewhere in the valvetrain
Was thinking the same
Your videos are so good!
Great choice on the BMC. I love mine, first mod i did, don't regret it. Easy to find in Europe as well. Mine is the oval box and made for my swift sport. Came with a long flexible hose that I have right behind the grill. Has a plastic velocity stack built in too.
I was so happy when I saw it on a TCR car and wrote down the part number. Excited to see its results!
@@GearsandGasoline i use a k&n cleaning kit with mine. The BMC ones were twice the price. It sounds really deep and even in hot weather because of the ram not much difference. The carbon fiber helps keep some of the heat out too.
Hmm curious how this would do with forced induction so I could utilize a velocity stack and filter instead of just a turbo guard on a daily street n strip forged engine car (not to safe but sounds amazing 😉)... n e ways glad to see u are able to utilize this opportunity... l8z
I really like the idea of "mitigating" horsepower through a slightly more restrictive intake. Seems like the rally style of running a restrictor plate. A hole of x diameter can only flow so much air, but allows you to keep the afr targets more ideal.
New favorite channel due to this civic playlist. You’re super lucky to have friends like Mark, especially with his sense of humor. You are hilarious to watch as well as extremely helpful and informational. Thank you for making this channel/playlist. Been binging it for the past few days now. I NEED MORE
the fuse might be a bit too small for the starter. a reset-able fuse would be a better option on race car if want to use one. Also the mirror going to vibrate loose, common issue with setup like that.
80amps should be ok for that engine me thinks
Nice Taytay reference. Great video as always. Thank you 😊
14:55 Ladies, that guy in the far left whom I met at a gym singlehandedly lift my 200lbs weights when I was about to give up and crush my legs. I wanted to give him free lunch as a compensation for saving my life but he said no. Please give this guy some love.
🤣🤣🤣
Awesome music in this episode!
You guys are great fabricators. Blown-up engines notwithstanding 😉😂
You experimented with intakes to gain 10hp and then de-tuned the fuel ratio and timing to lose 30hp??? 🫣🤷♂️
Isn’t there some kind of hood ram air scoop? Probably no room in the engine bay. I guess it would also increase drag.
One would think it would be useful to have the air inlet a larger diameter than the pipe so you get a Venturi effect and ram more air in.
I hope you put thread lock on those valve cover bolts. I’m just picturing a wee bolt vibrating loose and wreaking havoc with the valve train or trashing the camshafts.
No matter how many mods you do still glad that oem Honda oil filter being used. It really is the best out there then most aftermarket
Love to see the evolution of the Civic!
The center rear view mirror could vibrate a lot with the extension. You probably should test that, before running in the next event 😁
Those Milwaukee sockets have made things so much easier with the square ends. I love them so much
How are their tolerances?
New episode of my favorite saturday morning show.
Yes!! After seeing the short on this I was hoping you’d make a whole video.
Honda racecars should have red valve covers. It's pretty easy to get a fisheye rearview camera with a display mounted ergonomically in the cockpit, could also probably double as cameras for your purpose but ours aren't set to record. The display is nice to have on rearview, even just the peripheral vision and knowing there's a car alongside you has helped me many times endurance racing.
That’s a great idea! I was thinking the same thing. They could put cameras and screens for the side view mirrors and record it for the channel video.
You guys give me great inspiration for the type of content I should produce, the quality of the video, audio and production in general is fantastic! Great effort
You have such a great formula for the civic, it inspires me to be as detailed ❤️
Those long mirror brackets seem like they will vibrate like crazy when driving.
Put some mesh on that headlight intake. Rocks and rubber bits from the track could easily get in there.
That intake/re-tune plan was so smart and logical lol
Ever since I saw your FIA rain light I’ve kinda wanted one. Don’t need it but…dang it’s cool.
Red Valve Covers improve the driver experience a lot, specially on Honda's. >D
One of the nicest things about that new intake is less overall drag. Before, the headlight duct was just forcing air into the engine bay for the most part
4:02 it's conVEX :D
Ur editing and camera crew are top notch man!
Same effect as those clamps have, you can accomplish with 50 cents of zipties, just wrap them around frame when belt is in a right location. In the crash the belt wont go anywhere, if it was at the right position when tightening. But without clamping when you tighten your belt you could tighten in not enought, because the belt is in wrong position.
Would it be smart to loctite the bolts for the baffle on the valve cover? Seem's like there could be a possibility for a lot of valvetrain vibration transmitting to the cover and causing a bolt to backout
Solid Gold as always guys. Keep em coming!!!
These are the types of uploads we can watch all day long. Well, pretty much anything will suffice.
No need for just a once per week, just give us a quick one like this in between the main episodes & not only will we be entertained but you get the views for them as well.
Maybe A spiral rubber intake tube would be beneficial Since the engine would be moving alot during track
Is it allowed to install the velocity stack to the headlight?
Nice SpeedAcademy "High Pour!" A++
Happy Saturday y’all!
A bracket for a bracket! I'm sure BOM approves of this! 👍
Not sure if getting rid of the velocity stack is the way to go, the sharp edge at the headlight might cause more restriction than you gain back by the ram air effect. Also not quite getting the explanation, you are getting less air in and also planning to run leaner at the same time? Wouldn't it make more sense to just detune the engine by ignition angle instead?
You also might want to try a front 3-point strut bar if you haven't yet, made a noticeable difference on my DC2 even with street suspension.
what about driving in the rain with that set up
making me miss wrench on my cars back home! sipping a coffee on a quiet saturday morning with g&g - the best.
Love the civic videos
And first
use headlight full surface for air intake , in higher speeds this way even generate 0.1+ air boost
yeah make the whole surface of the headlight like a velocity stack/funnel.
question: if the class you're running in also keeps a close eye on lap times to make sure no one is running a sneaky tune to produce more power than they should and therefore run faster than they theoretically should, why isnt a mod that changes the output of the car while on track legal in the class?
As long as it isn’t technically against the rules is standard in motor sport
Am I the only one who likes the build/working on car videos more then the track videos? Lol.
But nothing tops the good ole road trips…
What if you put a velocity stack where the headlight duct is?
APR Mirrors are convex not flat, just need to learn how to set them up. The center rear view is also convex non concave lol.
I was hoping for a Honda F1 engine, but hey can't please them all I guess. 😜
Let’s see if he can get the K48 neutron engine
@@Velocitist For a moment I forgot that plans for this thing even exist. Did Craig Williams ever follow through and build one?
I hope you guys put Loc-tite on the baffle hold down bolts you just tapped, you think sand could damage your engine, what would a few solid bolts do? Just trying to help?
Grey area racing, I love it!
Nice man it’s cool watching you guys grow
If you like mirrors I would look into a wink mirror. It pretty much eliminates blind spots
I have similar mirrors on my BMW (the flat ones), and can attest to the inferior field of view. Those convex mirrors look like a good idea.
Yeah, convex mirrors really help view range, though things look smaller lol.
As you alluded to; driving improvement will bring the most gains. I suggest a simple data acquisition system, such as the AIM Solo or equivalent, so that you can discover where you can go faster.
Should run switchable maps like VW diesels have 2 maps one for roller one 4 road
Can you add a velocity stack style rounded edge to the headlight intake? Or do the the rules say you have to maintain the headlight form. Maybe not if you already put a hole in it.
A velocity stack and a bellmouth are two different things.
Proper convex mirrors will be my first mod on my newly bought single seater. It took one race to conclude that its pretty scary to not see cars around you..
Honestly all cars even passengers cars should have them. A simple Broadway concave mirror on your existing rear view does wonders.
Car yoga FTW
What happens when it rains?
Would the intake suck in a bunch of water?
Ben’s new livery are companies logos after june
Such a beautiful thing 😍
I believe the mirror is convex.
as someone who works at advance, you can, in fact, buy those parts at our stores
Taylor Swift reference to start it off, I like your style. 🎉😅
Prolly the hardest hatch I’ve seen ngl 😮💨
What made you decide on the big concave rearview mirror vs a wink mirror?
What's the product name of the new rear view mirror(middle interior)?
Any gearbox noise? That gear oil looked very sparkly and grey - something to keep an eye on - that colour usually signals excessive wear
Can’t wait for the ‘bird strike’ video on the intake 😂
I love the Taylor swift reference in the intro
You should shave weight by changing your front and rear crash bar to a aluminum extruded piece that can be found on other salvage vehicles.
Ben Thorn, we need the ZX2 back on this channel. yes, asap
6:31 you could have saved a bit of money by just getting welding cable plus it's the purest stuff you can get hands down
Is there any ducted air going to your front brakes? I only ask because that front bar looks like it only has 1 inlet for the rad/oil cooler. Do you think ducted brake cooling would help on a multi lap race on your car?
Thankfully it’s not needed in my case. I was overheating my old setup with the Porsche Rotors when the rotors were 24mm thick, bjt these stoptech rotors being 32mm thick hell the heat dissipation and allows me to run without brake ducts, which helps me keep drag at a minimum.
@@GearsandGasoline These little details cascading into each other are so cool. No wonder sometimes a small change can improve or worsen performance by multiplying the effects in multiple things.
Remember kids, it's only cheating if the rules next season ban it.
Awesome video, loving the civic stuff.
That rear -view is convex, not concave btw
I thought the f1 car part was going to be the wood plank that they run under the car lol
Great upgrades.
um, what about when you race the car in the rains (again)? Is that new intake going to allow water to get to the engine, or does this set up have the ability to remove the water before it gets through the throttle body?
Always nice when a UA-camr comes in a class with an almost limitless budget and goes after amateurs.
I'm definitely the underdog in this class. It's one of the most competitive amateur racing leagues in the country, I'm just trying to keep up.
@@GearsandGasoline I stand corrected then. Good luck, and mostly have fun.
So how do you filter air now. Or do you just ram all air now. Including FOD
any idea where to get the old intake setup , would be perfect for my Honda
Dude I have that old ass AE snowboarding shirt still too
Ben, you need to crimp that wire using proper crimpers. There is loss there, and also, it's not as strong.
It’s channel lock crimping pliers 909
First thing I thought, ChrixFix did a nice video on crimping wires, these pliers seemed very weak
Whats the additive to the oil? Wanna try that for my k24
Why do you stil use rbc when rrc is superior manifold?
Let's goooo!
I love how this was a 5000$ road trip car at first