I Watched *DUNE (2021)* For The FIRST TIME! | Movie Reaction
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Intro 00:00 - 00:36
Reaction 00:37 - 36:12
Discussion 36:13 - Розваги
Anyone who thinks this is a bad film or boring doesn't know anything about filmmaking or just has bad taste. In every post on Instagram with Dune, you see so many people saying it's a bad film or boring. This film is amazingly directed; the cinematography is beautiful; the score is amazing; the characters are amazing; the storytelling, writing, dialogue, acting-everything about it is great. And I've seen others say, "But I didn't understand this." The movie explains literally everything that needs to be explained for this film if you pay attention. And I just saw Dune 2, and it's a masterpiece, even better than this one, one of the best sequels; this trilogy could be one of the best trilogy's of all time.
I completely agree! Did not find myself feeling any of those ways during this one, really enjoyed practically every aspect of the film. So glad you enjoyed the second one! I think I’m seeing it Sunday myself, might put up a review as well. Can’t wait!
Thanks for watching as always!
💯 And that very much describes some unfortunate trends in filmmaking these days, like unnecessary & extra spoon fed exposition.
@@mitchellhp It's not unnecessary at all; it's just good storytelling and world building.
@@reynaldolorenzo8409 I understand, I meant for other movies, not Dune.
@@mitchellhp Ah, ok, I misunderstood your comment. Sorry. I don't know if you already watched the sequel, but wow, it's so good.
The thing about the fight at the end... not only is this Paul's first real fight to the death...
Paul was trained using shields, where fast movements are blocked and slow strikes are necessary... in the Fremen fight, there are no shields, so Paul is having to dodge quick strikes he's used to relying on a shield to block them.
Yeaa that’s a great point, it didn’t come to me in the moment but you can totally see the different styles. Paul much more precise and calculated while shamis (think I butchered that) was way more wild and aggressive
The creepy eye roll people are called Mentants. They are human computers.
MENTATs
My daughter and I saw Part II this morning. Run, don't walk, just get in the car now and go. I'd recommend seeing it in IMAX.
Casting continues into the incredible, acting is some of the best I've seen from any of he actors, cinematography and shot comp are off the charts, sound design is some of the best I've ever heard, and all of those were enhanced beyond compare in IMAX. I'm hoping to see it again at the one up in Phoenix, just because it's the biggest screen I can get to within a four hour trip.
Hahaha that’s awesome to hear. Sounds like you and your daughter had a fantastic time. I am actually walking to my car right now to go see it in IMAX! I cannot wait.
Completely worth the trip. Many fans like us know it's a rare and brief experience to have such movies in theatres.
Thanks Guys. Excellent reaction. I appreciate how much of this world building you got from the start. Just remember, Dune was written decades before any of the sci fi that you're going to point to later going, "Hey, doesn't Dune resemble...?" (Tattooine, for example). Every single parallel you find? You'll find the author owning up directly in interviews that they lifted several tropes from Frank Herbert's DUNE.
Thanks man appreciate you watching! Yea I heard afterwards this predates everything pretty much haha and I can certainly see the inspiration, makes me excited to see more
The Dune Universe is more bizarre than people think if they haven't read any of the books. The mysterious Guild Navigators are crazy weird, achieving Interstellar travel by folding spacetime so that their ships "travel without moving." The strange society of Bene Tleilax, who are masters of genetic manipulation, can create monsters like the Baron's "pet spider" in the movie as well as people called "Face Dancers." The lore covers thousands of years of future history.
The space folding is actually just from The 1980s movie it's not in the book or the mini series from 2000 and those two The ships use regular old hyperdrive but they have no computers so that guild navigators take the spice so they can see the future and guide the ships without running into anything because men who take spice can see the future and women the past but neither the other except paul
Yea I’m super fascinated on the outside universe and all of the inner workings that you mentioned.
The "Voice" is not quite like a Jedi mind trick. It's a skill that uses precise and well-trained observation to create a vocal tone that is uniquely able to affect the target. You can't just throw it out on some unsuspecting random. You need to observe them and focus on their suseptibilities. Paul knows his mother well enough to try it at the start, but it's a big moment for him to use it on the Harkonnens. It's his first time trying it in the "wild", so to speak.
The idea behind the Bene Gesserit is that they train themselves to be able to totally control their own bodies, down to a nearly cellular level. They use this to create that pitch, to control their body chemistry to nuetralise poison, and to control the exact choice of fertilization for their pregnancy.
Wowwww that’s so cool! It makes sense that finding the right pitch was so important, I thought it was more of a general thing but no she meant literally the exact right pitch. So cool! 😂
@@ItzWilson2 This. The Voice is basically a hyper-refined application of psychology, not an actual superpower. For practical purposes, though, it might as well be magic.
Thousands of teeth in thousands of worms. That's a million possible swords in one particular year on a planet that has been around for how long?
Fairs 😂 but like u know, THE tooth! Hahaha
Glad you two liked it!
Indeed, the story is quite compelling but worldbuilding needs its time, and they stayed pretty close to the original story and scenes of the book. Some details were omitted, but that's unavoidable when adapting such a lore-heavy book.
As to give you some info on the lore and politics of the Duniverse, so it becomes a bit more clear:
You have 4 major powerblocks in this universe:
1)The Emperor (and his army, the Sardaukar)
2)The Landsraad, consisting of a dozen Great Houses (and many Minor Houses, all vying for power). Think Game-of-Thrones here, but in sci-fi setting. ;-)
3)The Bene Gesserit; a semi-religious Order of women whom have certain powers (like the Voice, or being a Truthsayer, and some others not shown yet) and exert a lot of behind-the-scenes influence, but mostly stay low-profile
4) The Guild Navigators and CHOAM; a strong mercantile power, with a monopoly on spacetravel
It was more or less explained in the beginnings when Paul talked with his dad on Caladan: House Atreides is a growing power, politically and military, and the Emperor feels threatened. But he can't directly attack the House, because otherwise the Landsraad (the ensemble of Great Houses) will turn against him. As said, they each constitute a "big power" in this Duniverse. So the Landsraad and the Emperor keep each other in check, as it were.
Meanwhile, the Bene Gesserit are working from the shadows, on both sides - they primarily are concerned with their own plans and devices, to create the Kwizatsh Haderach. They manipulate from the shadows and actually form the third great power in this universe, but seldom show it openly. They also exert power by political marriages, or become concubines for political advantages - which is why Jessica wasn't married to Leto, though it was done to benefit him and House Atreides, not herself or the Sisterhood.
The fourth independent power, which is hardly touched upon in this first part of the movie, is the Spacing Guild and CHOAM. They're like a huge mercantile power, and the Guild Navigators are the only ones able to move/teleport (technically folding space-time) between planets, so without them, there would be no viable interstellar Imperium. Which make them essential and an enormous powerhouse as well - though, of course... they are and remain dependent on the Spice. That's why: whom controls Arrakis, controls the Empire.
So the Emperor can't directly attack a Great House like Artreides, or he risks all-out war with the Landsraad, consisting of the other Great Houses. Instead, he uses an indirect attack, with and through the Harkonnens - who want their fiefplanet back with all the Spice - doing the grunt work for him. The emperor knows they will be easily instigated that way, certainly because the Atreides and Harkonnen already have a centuries-old feud going on between them. It's a sort of proxy war, thus. He does help the Harkonnen to make sure they'll win - hence why he sends a few battalions of Sardaukar, his elite troops. But no-one (especially the Landsraad) may know about that. (That's also why they killed Liet, because she was going to expose the Emperor's meddling).
Also, some details one might have missed in the movie:
About the time in which the story plays: in the beginning of the movie they show it's the year 10191, but this is not 10191 AD, it's 10191 AG.
AG (After Guild - when the Spice Guild was made and started exploring the stars), and BG (Before Guild) are the iterations used and the lore in the books gives some indication as how that relates to our AD (Anno Domini). The most precise date - with a high level of accuracy - is that the first Dune novel which is set in 10,191 AG, corresponds approximately to 23,148 AD.
It is mentioned the "space age" takes place in 11,000 BG, and assuming this would mean it began in 1957 AD as this is when the first satellite, Sputnik, was launched, we can rebuild the whole timeline to our AD. So if you add the year 11,000 BG to 10,191 AG you’re left with a time span of 21,191 years. So if you add 21,191 years to 1957 AD, you’re left with 23,148 AD as the most likely date.
Quite some time! Most casual watchers of the movie think it's almost 10000 years in the future, but it's actually more than twice as much!
Now...as far as the melee fights and old/new tech are concerned, it's important to realize that in the Duniverse, while there is very high-tech at CERTAIN aspects, others are low tech (which gives the retro-feeling of the movie) but with a reason. It may seem strange at first sight, but note, however, that this has an in-story explanation, namely: thousands of years ago, there was a rebellion against "thinking machines" (AI) called the Butlerian Jihad. Humanity won (barely), but since that time there is a very strong taboo on creating anything resembling robots or AI, and humanity started to develop their own powers (aided by the melange/spice), such as Mentats (basically human supercomputers). This is the reason you don't see any highly developed robots, AI or even computers in this world.
This mix of old and new tech is a defining, historically explained element of the Duniverse; it's part of the worldbuilding and lore. Now, specifically about the melee combat: maybe you missed it, but they explained the shields in that fighting scene; they said "the slow sword can penetrate it". This is a hint that ALL objects with high kinetic energy are stopped dead in their tracks when hitting the shield, but SLOW objects can penetrate it. Meaning: ALL of our "modern" warfare weapons would largely become obsolete: machine-guns and all fast moving shells/bullets etc. become useless, but swords and knifes that are SLOWLY moved can still reach a target through the shields. Making the use of swords and knifes, after thousands of years, the dominant way of fighting once again. It's actually a cool twist.
That's all I'm going to say about it, because any more would get you into spoiler territory for part 2! ;-)
Hope that made things more clear!
Wow…this is like the best comment I’ve ever recieved!! 😂 thanks so much for taking the time to write it, I will certainly be coming back to this to remind myself of the setup for the “Duniverse” as you wonderfully call it haha this is super helpful and fascinating. I did catch the shield stuff, I never thought ab it making guns obsolete that’s cool and the time frame info as well is super interesting. Love all the setup like I said that I’ll be happy to have when I go see the second one this weekend. Thank you so much again!
For real
Actually anybody who use too much spice end up with blue eyes. High society of the Houses consider it a flaw (but they do it anyway) and the spacing guild are purported to use so much spice it has warped their bodies. The spacing guild uses it so their navigators can see the future and the pathways between the stars.
Ahhh gotcha, makes total sense I guess because the Fremen are seen as lower that “acquiring” their blue eyes would be diminishing. The spacing guild sound so cool I’d love to learn more about them.
@@ItzWilson2 dune2 I am hoping will show a bit more. Unfortunately it, they kinda kept a lot of the other Houses and guilds out to cut down on the confusion. And keep the movie shorter
The Doctor knew his wife was probably dead, and if she wasn't she'd at least be put out of her misery once he'd done his job and the Harkonans had no use for her as leverage over him. He knew that one way or another he wasn't going to survive this political backstabbery but survival at that point was not a concern for him. He just wanted the Baron dead and to be with his wife again.
Yeaaa such a tragic story I couldn’t really be too mad at him like I said, I might do the same in his shoes
@@ItzWilson2 - there's a theory that the black dog-spider-thing on Giedi Prime IS his wife, after Harkonnen special treatment.
I don't subscribe to that theory myself for various reasons, but I very much like the thinking. :)
What isn't really spelled out is that the Doctor's diamond tattoo on his forehead is the mark of special Imperial conditioning that makes his loyalty unbreakable to whichever Noble House he is assigned.
Until Baron Skarsgard comes along, obviously. :)
@@rolandcooke oh wow 😂😂yea that’s pretty dark but hey u never know in this universe. I was curious about that on his head but didn’t think much of it, talk about regretting tattoos…😂
George Lucas really just stole the Jedi Mind Trick thing from Dune, along with so much other shit.
I did see afterwards that Dune came first, crazy to see the comparisons!
Lucas was open about his influences, the Dam Busters and The Hidden Fortress in particular, plus Dune of course.
Great reaction as always guys! I love how you both genuinely do your best to understand & appreciate everything you watch, not just react. I’m about to watch Dune 2, so this was a nice refresher.
Thank you so much! You’ve been around forever here on the channel I really appreciate you watching :) I just got out of the theater! Hope you enjoyed it as much as I did
As far as I know, all adult Freman were gifted a crysknife as the universal tool/weapon of status. Part of the responsibility of having one was keeping it from leaving the hands of the Freman community. Paul has the one Chani gave him. Jessica received hers through a women's secret society similar to the Bene Gesserit among the Freman. Any Mentats or Reverend Mothers feel free to chime in with corrections.
Hahaha I think you’re correct, makes total sense. Thank you for the enlightenment my friend!
I just saw the second one in theaters! It's so good!
So happy you enjoyed it! I think I’m going Sunday I can’t wait
I'm seeing it tomorrow. I'm a fan of the first three books, I love the Lynch movie (with all its faults), and I am a huge fan of Denis Villenueve...but I was slightly underwhelmed by Dune Part One.
But maybe it's a direct result of all that baggage, the weight of expectation - ItzWilson is the second of two novices react massively positively to Part One.
So my question is, does the second movie boost the first in some ways, will I enjoy the two Parts more when considered as a five-hour story? (ignoring the likely Dune Messiah / Part 3 for now)
@@ItzWilson2, I suppose the best way to describe "Dune: part 2" is to say it was like watching "Rob Roy" on steriods and set in a fantasy or science fiction world, but still not as good a movie as the original, but only turn Luke Skywalker (Rob Roy) into Anakin Skywalker (the Mahdi of Islam).
156) Rob Roy (1995)
164) Dune: part 2 (2024)
"Dune: part 2" is worth seeing. Denis Villeneuve stayed true to the book enough, in the sense characters can see it all happening as good or bad or good and bad and yet you as the viewer or reader can make up your own mind too. In other words, do you see this hero as worth it or not worth it. It's up to you.
I was surprised Denis Villeneuve in "Dune: part 1" had the Fremen call Paul the Mahdi, as that was a dead give away that this whole thing is an Islamic end times vision. Frank Herbert did not come out and say it, but while I read "Dune" as a kid I knew the whole things smelled of T. E. Lawrence of Arabia joining the Muslims in World War One to be a leader figure of the desert only this was more Anti-Christ type vision of the future.
I think in that sense it stays true to what Frank Herbert said, "I am showing you the superhero syndrome and your own participation in it." - Frank Herbert, speaking about "Dune."
Now I see it from Zendaya's perspective; hence, I love the ending as completely open ended as to whether they achieve or don't achieve, but that many are for it as the dye is cast and some are disbelievers of it seeing the conflict is not over nor is any success guaranteed. In that sense it was brilliant, but it didn't crack my top 100 favorites movies list.
"A Princess of Mars" by writer Edgar Rice Burroughs inspired many things along with the movie adaptation of the book called "John Carter" in 2012 by Disney, such as: Star Wars, Avatar, Indiana Jones, Superman, Dune, and writer Ray Douglas Bradbury with "The Martian Chronicles," which I read as a child.
Here is where such things fall on my favorite movies list:
20) Star Wars: the Empire Strikes Back (1980)
21) Star Wars: a New Hope (1977)
41) Superman II (1980)
112) John Carter (2012)
121) Avatar (2009)
125) Man of Steel (2013)
148) Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (1983)
164) Dune: part 2 (2024)
270) Dune: part 1 (2021)
The main reason for me to watch Dune 2 is to see whether Zendaya Coleman surpasses female actresses I loved in the past, which I don't believe she has yet. And to see if the vision of the Mahdi in his ascension can be depicted well. Denis Villeneuve delivered. I suppose movie three will be can Islam rule well? I doubt it in reality, or for depiction in the next movie, and I doubt the 3rd movie would surpass the 2nd.
Zendaya is in my top 13 favorite actors based on the list below. She is certainly doing well for her career and I'm happy for her in that sense.
10) Spiderman: No Way Home (2021)
96) The Greatest Showman (2017)
164) Dune: part 2 (2024)
191) Spiderman: Far from Home (2019)
198) Spiderman: Homecoming (2017)
270) Dune: part 1 (2021)
“I loved you,
so I drew these tides of men into my hands
And wrote my will across the
Sky and stars
To earn you freedom, the seven
Pillared worthy house,
That your eyes might be
Shining for me
When we came
Death seemed my servant on the
Road, 'til we were near
And saw you waiting:
When you smiled and in sorrowful
Envy he outran me
And took you apart:
Into his quietness
Love, the way-weary,
groped to your body,
Our brief wage
Ours for the moment
Before Earth's soft hand explored your shape
And the blind
Worms grew fat upon
Your substance
Men prayed me
that I set our work,
The inviolate house,
As a memory of you
But for fit monument I shattered it,
Unfinished: and now
The little things creep out to patch
Themselves hovels
In the marred shadow
Of your gift.”
― T. E. Lawrence, "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom"
Sting and the whole David Lynch "Dune" of the 80s was insane.
@@rolandcooke oh interesting yea maybe having some baggage like you say altered you expectations. Obviously for me with no background in this world I wasn’t expecting really anything, just found myself getting lost in it. I’m sure as a whole in the future these movies will gel really well together, I feel like that’s where it’s going
Frank Herbert went out of his way to explain every single skill and ability on display while the force even with extended universe lore is still more or less magic or just magic . For example the Voice and the idea behind it is similar to a Mother you love heightening her tone to persuade you from not doing something again but a 100 times amplified . You will feel compelled as it is nearly in your nature to follow certain commands if they are voiced correctly to you . The middle man , the conciousness interwening and evaluating your decision making is cut off , only the commands Action matters .
Point is, its not a handwave or even just a magic system but inspiration and research through actual Science and observation even if partially outdated . A soft science fiction .
Yea that’s really awesome! I love Star Wars but I like when there’s some substance behind these sci-fi/fantasy things happening other than “it’s magic” haha so I’m a fan of it!
Cryskinves (the knives crafted from the teeth of the worm, "Shai-Hulud") are pretty common among Fremen.
Shadout Mapes gives one to Jessica and Chani gives one to Paul, but they're not the same one.
Got it yea I figured that was the case, appreciate the clear up!
The Duncan Minnesota comment earns a sub. LOL
Hahaha it was a really good one, fair play to him. Appreciate the sub! 😂
Denis has been working on third movie, saying it's his version of Paul's arc. It's a good book.
Yea Messiah right? Considering how well the second one is doing already I’m sure he was smart to start ahead 😂
Bagpipes have been around for 3,000 years. Not that crazy they might survive that far into the future.
The crazy thing....the bagpipe music is actually done with guitars! There's a whole UA-cam video on the music of Dune Part 1, with Zimmer, Villeneuve, and that amazing female singer.
U know what you’re so right 😂
Nice reaction, thoughtful
Thank you! Appreciate you watching :)
Thuffir doing that funky "exorcist" gaze was him doing a Mentat trance wherein he can do insane calculations, Paul is almost capable of doing those thanks to be trained in Mentat ways, meanwhile Duncan & Gurney were turning him into a Warmaster & Lady Jessica a Bene Gesserit "warlock". I wish I saw y'all's reaction to Shadout Mapes's moment of Holy ecstasy.
Yea there was just so much in this movie it was so hard to decide what to cram in, just to tell you it was me looking very confused and intrigued 😂 and that’s super cool thank you for the info on those guys 👍🏻
@@ItzWilson2 you're welcome, the tall ghoulish Harkonnen that had the similar lip tat is Mentat too. In the books Mentats usually have red stained lips & chins from drinking Sapho a steroid for Mental function.
Dune 2 just dropped on MAX, I think it is a stronger, more coherent movie, with some amazing scenes and performances. It really deserves to be seen in IMAX, but whatever you have will work!
Agreed, I saw it in imax when it came out. So damn good!
Loved DUNE
Same here!
Good reaction guys for people who do not know the books. Amusing these people who find this movie boring ! the world building is huge because the books are the most FAMOUS AND COMPLEX SF litterature books ever, with also the Lord of the rings and the Foundation saga, 6 books written between 1965 to 1985 by Frank Herbert, and 16 books more from his son Brian Herbert (and Kevin J. Anderson). Thiq story is not for everyone, you need to THINK here and gather informations on this huge new universe ! there is an encyclopedia of Dune on the web to help by the fans.
Thanks for watching! Really liked this one and Dune 2 is one of my favorite movies ever
Thufur, inside the thopter, mentions the outside temp as 140 degrees. Now whether that's fahrenheit, celsius or kelvin is anybody's guess. Suffice to say it's scorching.
Yea that’s insane 😂 I just imagine standing in an oven haha
Underrated reaction
Thanks for watching!
Yeah, please watch Robocop! I would like to see the reaction to this iconic film🔥
Yea man it’ll definitely be on a poll in the future!
COYG.
Get outttaaa hereee with that 😂…YANITED.
@@ItzWilson2Nah, man, been a Gooner since the 80s, thick and thin.
Ayeeee I love it!! I had Henry hanging on the wall had it switch it up as Rice has been unreal!! Were looking good, hopefully we can get some silverware this season!
great reaction, btw go watch it in theaters...its worth it.
Thank you, thanks for watching! I saw Dune 2 in IMAX, absolutely loved it!
You asked about the daytime temperature on Arakis. Between 140 and 170 F, depending on time of year, and what latitude you are inhabiting.
My god 😂 sunscreen companies would EAT
Below is a link to a wonderful (brief) summary of Dune Part 1 with some extra background from the first book.
Recommended viewing ahead of watching Dune Part 2.
Read the comments at your own risk obviously, but there are a few helpful clarifications and corrections in there.
ua-cam.com/video/dlPj0Vn6aec/v-deo.htmlsi=LaExmVj0_zqsjgSe
Oh awesome thank you! I’m gonna check this out now as I leave in a couple hours for Dune 2!
They did a great job on this but there is so much going on it may be a good idea to read the book to take in everything
That’s what I hear, I honestly might I was really engrossed with the universe after this and especially after 2 so I think I may read the first book
Lol the force thing in star wars was stolen from dune.
Haha yea I learned Dune came first, can certainly see the inspiration!
5:10 *monkey's paw curls in the distance*
I gotta keep my mouth shut 😂😂
In college 2 books that were never read,
Lord of the rings,
The other being DUNE...
Then a film by a bunch of draft dodgers became a thing "tar *ars"..
Nightly it was the ROC guys beating up the indoor Mardi Gras guys with florescent bulb's thinking they had a chance....
Dr yueh was supposed to have conditioning to prevent h8s betrayal. What is aggrevating is Yueh would have known his wife was aleady dead. It was a totaly useless betrayal. If he was honerable he would have made an effigy for his wife and told the duke. Worst betrayal in history imo!
How would he have known? Do they have some type of connection? Also yea I agree, it was a really bad betrayal haha
@@ItzWilson2 - in the Lynch movie it is explained a bit better. Jessica (with her heightened Bene Gesserit senses) can detect something is amiss with Yueh, but understands that he hates the Harkonnens and loves his wife, and (probably, I forget) also loves the House of Atreides. Plus he's got the Sukh Conditioning, so there's no way he could be a traitor.
What Jessica doesn't clock is that Yueh's level of love for his wife, and his level of hate for the the Harkonnens outweighs everything else.
In the book the whole thing plays out a bit more. The Atreides high command knows that there's a traitor, and the (false) incriminating evidence points towards Jessica. Leto doesn't believe it for a single second, but plays along to buy time for him to find out who the real traitor is, unsuccessfully obviously.
Thufir Hawat DOES believe the evidence against Jessica (even after the fall), and that causes further undermining of the Atreides defences.
@@ItzWilson2 The Harkonnens are known for their butchery as well as debauchery. It would be impossible for him not to have known.
The Voice IS NOT like the Force... there is magic. think of it like the Ultimate MOM VOICE. there is no magic in Dune just normal humans doing things any one with long enough training could do
Ultimate mom voice 😂😂 that’s such a perfect explanation I 100% understand what you mean haha yea I’ve been informed on how it comes about I have to say it’s pretty damn cool!
Great! It is very interesting to see your joint detailed reaction to the film Robocop 1987. This is a cool movie 👍🔥🦾
Do you have any plans to do it?
It’ll definitely be on a poll down the line, lot of movies to get through!