The video of Ronda shadowboxing and Joe "kermitthefragg" Rogan literally crying over how good her boxing is and how shes a once in lifetime... no, once in history type fighter... never gets old
24:26 every time I hear people give a retrospective on the hype around Ronda’s boxing “skill” no one ever catches what Tyson says there “She’s really doing good stuff” that is code for, “for someone that don’t know how to box, she is trying.” She throw all of her punches from her elbow, never turned her hips over on the cross or hook, and that’s just what I saw from her highlights
She simply didn't know how to lose. The greatest fighters in the world can all lose a fight, it how they bounce back from that which makes them great. She was bad at losing and her arrogance was gross.
as much as I hate to admit it dogasanya is a great example after the way he bounced back after his loss to Alex and beat him. also gsp coming back and absolutely destroying serra and hughs is a prime example
@@berennicholas5003as much as dogasanya was great bouncing back against Alex, he was pathetic in handing off his post fight after Strickland and generally how he’s handled this era
^ Yeah, not sure what this dude is on. Jizzy Eatersanya is an awfully sore loser. Constant excuses after each loss. He couldn’t just outright say, “Strickland whooped my ass and he’s the better fighter.” It was, “I felt like I was in a dream. My arms felt like noodles!” He did the exact same shit when he lost to Alex too. Excuse after excuse.
It really defines who a person actually is... I don't know any fighter, myself include (years ago - street and on mats / rings who has NEVER lost, or have had someone get the better of anyone on their rise in training and experience... Ronda is one of the most pathetic losers I've seen male or female.. I was absolutely disgusted by both Forrest and DC when they ran out of the ring after they got smashed.. Those two I DO respect for who they are outside of that.. I don't see redeeming qualities in Ronda.. Getting hated while not intentionally being a heel in pro wrestling.. That had to have stung far worse than Amanda treating her like a jello bag..
@@MixedMartialAcademic Thnk U Lion for doing these vids! U n thm r appreci8d! MMA is the only sporti can sit n watch for hrs. wondr how a Lee n Rousey fight woulda went down........ Love n Blessings Family!!!
its not even keep up she just could never be told that she wasnt the greatest. If you never even acknowledge there is a problem it cant be fixed. Ronda with a better attitude and being more open to criticism and coaching could have been great.
Fun Fact: She got a bronze medal for coming in 4th in the Olympics. Also, almost all her wins in the UFC came over girls without real MMA coaches (Tate, McMann, Zingano, Correia, Davis didn't have real coaches, they're coaches were they're boyfriends who didn't and don't coach any other UFC fighters) But Holly and Amanda had real coaches.
It's true, and she's a delusional bitch, but her impact on woman's MMA is unparalleled. I love Gina Carano, but no one cared before Rousey unfortunately.
Did she come 4th? I didn't know that semifinalists faced each other in combat sports in the olympics. Both losing semifinalists just get bronze. As far as I know.
@@Undivided-X Judo is weird...Ronda lost to Edith Bosch in the quarter-finals and that is who she shared her bronze medal with. Ronda got a bronze medal because in Judo they do a repechage bracket and the winner of that gets a second bronze medal, most sports dont' give out two bronzes or two of any medal, I don't know why Judo does. So yeah, in this case the two people who shared bronze did face each other and Ronda lost.
@@Undivided-X I know other sports do repechage brackets, but I've never heard of any sport giving out a second bronze medal. Does wrestling give out a second bronze medal to the person who wins the repechage bracket?
That comes from the way she was raised her mum always told her she was the best at everything and made excuses when she lost and told her she was still better than the kids she lost to and they just got lucky then her coaches did the same all through her adult life its honestly really sad because she doesn't know how to take criticism and takes everything so personally because she was never given any criticism when she was younger and you can tell its completely fucked her up mentally she just needs to step away from the spotlight focus on getting her head straight and raising her kids because it will only end badly if she doesn't
The people around her created a monster mate, if everyone around you keeps gaslighting you and tells you that you are infallible, or totally awesome, while never pushing you to ever exceed yourself because you are already "perfect". The shame is that Ronda was a talented athlete, and she doesn't seem like an irredeemable person, she's just got gaslit by her family and team to this point.
"Without Ronda, there is no Amanda Nunes." Don't take away from Amanda. She was fighting in Invicta while Ronda was in the UFC. Yes, Ronda helped build the platform, but Amanda was already on her way -- and she surpassed Ronda's dominance in the sport. She also fought Cyborg, something Ronda was afraid to do. I can say that confidentially, because I have been watching the sport since the Strike Force days. Ronda always made excuses to avoid Cyborg, whereas Amanda beat her. Now, before people say, "Well, Cyborg and Ronda were in different weight classes," Ronda actually started her career in the featherweight division (145 lbs). Then, she dropped down to the bantamweight division (135 lbs). In contrast, Amanda simultaneously held UFC championship belts in both divisions.
@@NorcoNate well conor _is_ a male Rhonda. if you include those f** russians and dagestanis. he had to start training 10 years earlier to bring it to that level, same as Rhonda
She went wrong when she thought she was good enough to strike with elite strikers. She was only at a high enough level with Judo. Imagine if Royce Gracie went in thinking he could strike with his opponents.
She could have utilised it similar to how Khabib did, takedown/grapple threats open striking opportunities. But the striking wasnt about enhancing her overall fighting proficiency it was purely ego based delusion that she was the greatest no matter how she fought - she could have been the undisputed had she the slightest notion of what humility is.
If she’d had to go through the same things other people had to get to that belt she would've known her striking isn't up to par. She might've lost and learned how to lose.
I remember watching an interview with Ronda Rousey and Mike Tyson together. Tyson talked about the pitfalls to avoid while being atop the world, and Rousey dismissed it. That's when I knew the end had come.
@@IKI11I fun fact! you know just about the same about me as the last guy, absolutely jackshit nothing🤣 the more baseless assumptions you make, the more that you look like a child
Her ego is what ruined her career. She is a sore loser. She should have just admitted defeat. She was an awesome fighter it is her attitude that fans didn’t like. She could of kept her head up and kept fighting
World class egotist + over exaggerated skills = Delusional, sore loser Rhonda. As you poingantly stated, all she had to do was admit that better fighters beat her because they were more skilled, better prepared, and executed better. However, Rhonda clearly has a weak character, and could not look in the mirror and say, "Self, you're just not as good as you thought you were". She couldn't say it to herself, she sure as hell couldn't say it in a mass media interview.
she's the product of her mother raising her alone. When Amanda punched her out of MMA, her mother said "let her have it, we're better than getting punched in the face for a paycheck". Now she goes to podcasts saying she was concussed and fighting with a torn ACL against Holly lol. Imagine that, she's the best female fighter ever, but fights injured and loses. Fine, it happens. First thing she would do, if the crap she's been saying was real, she would heal, train and ask for an immediate rematch with Holly, but she never did that, she didn't want any of that heat. Then she took a year off, came back and was destroyed, retired and now says "her mind wasn't there anymore". So annoying. No humility nor respect for much more accomplished fighters. Amanda lost to Peña on a fluke win, didn't say a thing, came back and dominated her completely to reclaim what's her. That's what a true champion do, not retire from the sport pretending that now you're too good for it as Ronda did.
Not a fan of RR and never disliked her. I was watching the Holm /RR fight sitting on the fence. But when she refused to shake hands with Holm, i instantly disliked her and celebrated her well deserved loss.
Her fight with Holm always reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Homer becomes a boxer. He wins by outlasting bums and lousy fighters, but the moment he fights someone who actually knows how to fight, he gets his crap kicked in thoroughly.
Rouseys coach: All right, Ronda, I'm not gonna lie to you. There's a good chance you can beat Holm. But you gotta visualize how you're gonna win, okay? Ronda’s thought bubble: A congenital heart defect has apparently felled Holm moments before she could step into the ring.
If Ronda had a better team around her and had any ounce of humility, she would’ve still been held in high regard. She’s still a pioneer and I hope she finds peace with the career she had
WHY?!!??!!!? What is wrong with all of you? You realize some people are just WHO THEY ARE?? It reads like you're all saying, "I wish she would've just bullshtted us all then we'd love her!!" I mean...."loved like Ali"?? That dude went through the cosmos and back, was loved then hated back to loved....he was just "Doing" being who he was. I think Ronda was too. Not every special athlete or whatever is going to be a beacon of light. Ppl are ppl.
@@exspiravit6920 Well she is had alot of backlash and maybe she would have an easier time if she could harness just the tiniest bit of empathy. But yes she is free to act like a spolied brat all she wants it just makes her really unlikelable and that is why her career is down the drain. It just seems like she lost alot due to her pride.
@@exspiravit6920 TBF Ali came back - if anything his defeats elevated his triumphs even further. Ali is just beyond comparison to Rousey in so many ways. Even in terms of a life story, the people who truly despised him then, now look back on their hatred as a relic of an era because the man was willing to sacrifice to prove that he was more than shallow bravado. Put it this way, the man who challenged the American government and society came to be seen by America as one of THE truly great Americans. Rousey was just shallow bravado and there was no strength of character to help her recover from being brought down, and I think that is what folks are getting at. Had she possessed spiritual strength and moral courage to bolster her talent then that combination could have elevated her past the adversity she faced, either helping her be competitive again or just helped her cement her career accomplishments instead of blemishing them in a cloud of disgrace. What is crazy is how her example is perfect at explaining how important those factors are, and also, I should stress that what is meant by "spiritual" and "moral" is not referring necessarily to religious faith or any particular ethics but building yourself mentally into an in dominatable person ready to confront anything - including a loss, so that failure or losing DOES NOT defeat you. To borrow the definitions from the military; Spiritual fortitude is to make meaning of experiences and be resilient when faced with adversity to create inner strength. Moral courage is the willingness to stand firm on your values, principles, and convictions-even when threatened.
I'm just glad that Holly didn't one-punch her, then she'd have the excuse that it was a lucky punch. Holly completely took her apart. Holly moved like a jungle cat stalking her prey, Ronda moved like a roided-up cow.
Mixed Martial Academics, I think it’s really cool that you acknowledged the fact that, if not for Rousey, there would be no women’s division. Love her, or hate her, she brought brand new eyes to MMA/UFC for a new generation of people who may never have become interested in this sport.
I disagree with this mind of mentality in general. If it wasn't her, it would have been someone else. Might have taken an extra year or 2, but it was inevitable. And whoever that person was, she would be just as hyped up as RR. Because that part is a vital part of the business model, it's the PR and advertising that made her a household name, would have done the same if it wasn't her and it was someone else a year or 2 later.
@@hustla818 what a great comment! You’re absolutely right and I feel really stupid about my comment. I’m not a fighter, I’m a musician for my living for almost 40 yrs. The exact thing you spoke about has come up time and again in my career over the years, and you’re so dead-on about what you said. Thank you for your respectful rebuttal. I humbly stand corrected. Best wishes from Las Vegas
I’ve heard people making excuses and crying about Ronda this, Ronda that… We don’t cry, defend or make excuses for a schoolyard bully, why start with her?
Not to mention she got one of the wrestlers fired for an absolute nothingburger recently (something that vaguely happened like she said it did and the guy apologized to her years ago). She had to promote a book and WWE just had all the Vince McMahon drama, so they deemed it better to fire a guy, instead of potential bad publicity.
@@DarkSun123456789poor drew gulak I imagine HHH will bring him back once this nonsense dies down Drew would be a wonderful addition to the training crew once he retires
The only reason why Rousey excelled is because the female MMA theater was still relatively new, and the real talents haven't stepped into the spotlight just yet. She has never been anything more than a one trick pony.
I really like Miesha Tate, but there's a lot of irony in her saying that Ronda only got her opportunity because she's a pretty face when Miesha is way more attractive to begin with. Also, Ronda was speaking nothing but facts in that Ariel Helwani interview.
Think Miesha didn't like getting out shone by Ronda and made her say some stupid stuff. It was nice to see Tate down the line get her championship belt in the UFC though, she deserved it.
Early Women's MMA was seemingly all about just putting conventionally attractive women together to fight whenever possible. Misha probably was feeling a bit shown up, but it did show a lack of self-awareness about what was happening in the sport at the time (or maybe it was a subtle call out). It's fucked, but promotions seemed to sometimes treat female fighters like more glorified ring girls given the material that was released surrounding them.
As a wrestling fan, Rhonda thought she mma hype was going to carry her but she was wrong. Wrestling fans dont give a fuck about mma unless you come from wrestling frist. Don't even talk about how bad she was on the mic
All they had to do is have Heyman advocate for her as a heel MMA fighter who finds winning in WWE too easy (in the Brock Lesnar mould). She would wrestle only occasionally, destroy a girl and then disappear with the belt. She wouldn't need to be exposed as a limited in-ring worker and would never need to talk. She could have been a mega heel for Becky Lynch, or whoever.
She humiliated herself not by losing but by not accepting the losses. We've all been there girl, we've all lost, we've all felt terrible about it. Pretending it didn't happen, going into hiding, and refusing to properly acknowledge and accept it just makes you look silly to the audience and allows the loss to continue to eat you alive... I hope she realizes this someday and frees herself.
Not only that but showing no ability to adapt during a fight, some of those fights she must have known she was getting wrecked but still decided to not go for a takedown/submission
Well people were telling her she was the best ever. Joe rogan was saying she could beat up floyd mayweather and even small male mma fighters. She couldn't do either. Plus women aren't treated like men. They're catered to and pampered their entire lives. So they're not equipped to deal with failure. Let's face it, though.. getting absolutely destroyed at something you're great at can really mess with you and make you rethink your entire career choice.
Something I noticed is Rhonda fought women who always looked smaller (until Alexis Davis, who seemed a bit of can). Even miesha and cat looked smaller… until she fought alexis, holm, and nunes who actually needed to cut weight a bit for 135.
It’s sad that all of those girls who looked up to her for being a “strong woman” & a winner never learned how to lose & not make excuses for failure, which is far more important in life.
Good sport or poor sport? In the game of life true champions are remembered not only for their successes, but more importantly for their grace after a loss.
It's called "falling off the cliff" when an athlete loses their prime basically overnight. An athlete goes from being dominant for a period of time all of a sudden they lose several in a row. Especially against opponents they could have beaten earlier in their career.
I think too much gets made of fighters that Ronda previously beat that went on to become champions and her fans wear that as a feather in their cap. Ronda beat them when they were new to the UFC and they just weren't very good. A fighter has the right to improve. When Miesha Tate got beaten by Ronda, she was sloppy as hell, looked terrible in that fight, and was nothing like the fighter that beat Holly Holm for the bantamweight championship 3 years later. That's how it went for most of the fighters in that division. They trained, got good coaching, and got better while Ronda sat back and let it ride. When Ronda beat Tate in 2013, I remember Dana White talking some real trash about Miesha, saying that she's a has-been and needs to retire. He was actually right, it was her 3rd loss in 4 fights and she looked like total garbage in her loss to Ronda. To Miesha's credit, she went to work, trained harder, went on a 5-fight win streak, and capped it off by beating Holy Holm for the bantamweight championship. Now contrast Ronda's 1st loss. She did the exact opposite. She crumbled like an Oreo cookie and hid from the media in her house for a year. Talk is talk. Miesha turned it around and showed it in the ring. Ronda just gave up.
I don't think she fell off in the way you typically see with athletes. I think if she kept doing her takedown to armbar shtick she would have remained competitive for much longer. Her skills didn't abandon her, injury didn't derail her.... she just decided that she was a boxer and nothing anyone could say was going to convince her otherwise.
@@Skank_and_Gutterboy Few of those women had the same background in fighting that Rousey did-- most of those women grew up doing gymnastics or dancing, not fighting. I agree with you, the caliber of fighter she fought was poor, with the first credible opponent being Holly Holm.
I remember watching the fight with Holly Holm live, my dad kept saying "oh Rousey's going to win in the first round she always wins", but as soon as she refused to touch gloves I said "she's going to lose", and to this day I regret not betting on that fight, I'd be rolling in it now lol
Even when you are labeled the "Best" at anything, always remember there IS someone out there better than you. It's your job to find them. Make that your goal and you will succeed.
@@jckdnls9292Bro. He didn’t mean literally. He meant in competitive sports, you CAN find the best because you already play with the best. My God, stop being so dense.
Very hypocritical of Ronda saying Meisha Tate only post herself in booty short and yet Ronda does a cover of Sport Illustrated naked with body paint. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
I like when women wanna show off and people freak out. Like dude have you never seen a undressed female in real life before. Just stop it. You know if you got a problem with women showing their bodies that a a you problem, so you go f off and deal with it. Not a leftist, it's just my opinion
For the first 31 minutes and 51 seconds I was just eagerly waiting for that infamous “she can try to kick me in the head, but it’s not gunna go like that!” line. Gotta love when a cocky, narcissistic, egomaniac of a fighter perfectly predicts their own downfall (or when they perfectly predict how they will defeat their opponent, except it happens to them, like we saw with bethe correida earlier).
Have you ever been truly confident about yourself in anything in life? She defended her belt like 8 times. You’d think you were the best female fighter on earth too
@yuhyuhtheindigo7085 I dont like Ronda... but I feel like people take it too far. Athletes are supposed to be confident. She's far from the greatest wmma fighter but she still was an Olympic Medalist and defended the belt a couple times and was the most famous one of them all. She's pretty much the conor of wmma.
@@grogsmashrock7240 not as much as woman complain about men. sheeesh...have you ever watched women on UA-cam calling men trash? I mean, after you commented I did a quick search on YT...YEP, 1000s of videos women complaining about men. Go look. it's crazy
What makes a fighter's character isn't that they win every fight. It's what they do with themselves when they lose. Ronda didn't know how to lose because she bought her own hype. She couldn't handle being humbled as badly as she was against Holly Holm. So, she made excuses to shield herself because it was better than accepting the reality that she was bested by someone.
Joe should never be allowed to forget that he said Ronda’s hand speed was retarded in a good way. Also Conor laughing maniacally at Ronda’s striking is GOLD.
And the whole "I can't be number one and shit on everyone anymore so I wanted to kill myself" Is a really pathetic excuse. No excuses for being a jerk to everyone for no reason.
Imagine saying you are the greatest fighter of all time but can't get punched in the face cause you're easily concussed , what ? And if you're easily concussed why accept a job in the WWE , none of her shit makes any sense at all
I wouldn't say she's easily concussed. I watched the Nunez fight. She was just eating strikes to the face. It was kinda impressive that she was still standing. Eventually the Ref stepped in to stop the carnage.
Is anything wrong with that? Compared to most of the female fighters who have manly faces and bodies, she definitely was pretty and had the feminine look, same with Miesha and Gina. One should not deny that fact simply because you hate her. Ronda was the pretty blonde. Miesha was calling her pretty, Ronda was just responding that she isn't just pretty, she has skills as well.
Although I 100% don’t agree with how Ronda Rousey took her loss and how she lacks humility, I still find it fascinating how the same people that attack her for that, will praise other fighters who have done wayyyy worse things. If you are going to critique one person, you must critique others too.
Right, she went through sm shit & imo was groomed (not in a good way). Obviously a big ego is never good, but I can understand why she had/has such a big ego after everything that happened to her.
The funny thing is that EVERY reign is on borrowed time. Eventually, that interest payment comes due, and barring interference from Vince McMahon... errrrr, Dana White, you WILL default.
Wym? Conor fell, GSP well retired, Aldo fell, Jones ran away to fight in spurts, Volk fell.... I'm not catching the drift of your sweet analogy here lol. Oh!! Do you mean like how he flipped the script with Francis and Jones with now Stipe' being held like he's still the same as before Francis 2nd fight? I'd call all that just being a typical "Fight Promoter". Dana isn't bad if you know that business even a little you just know he's not that bad. The reason (IK this is long-winded ) I stick up for him is because if you love mma rn then you DONT WANT the corporate execs or "Suits" to get inside the nuts and bolts of how mma is made, down to gyms/training/managers etc....because then the day WILL come when you will see a shyttt product and the fighters will have "Agents".
Even for me, as a former wrestling fan, Ronda is and was the greatest female athlete to ever live. I quit watching wrestling part way through her wrestling career, and I actually thought she wouldn't come back. Her attitude is very sociopathic but that is part of her. As a sociopath myself, I can relate to her a lot. Rather than accept a loss, you try to build back your confidence with bluster since others aren't the source of your confidence or motivation. If you accept that you aren't the best anymore, you just don't want to do it anymore.. that's the way people like myself think. That's at least partially how I think Ronda felt. You can't look at someone and say "she's great but only her skills". Everything besides her skills is how those skills were built. Without her powerful personality, her "idgaf" mentality, she wouldn't be the arm snapping badass. Expecting her to be like other people who lose is just ridiculous. She's herself, and her attitude towards losing is just as important to who she is as her skills are. People may not like it, but they don't need to. Just respect her and don't bandwagon bully her over not responding the way you want her to.
“I’m not gonna have to think about her again. She’s gonna think about me a lot, I bet.” Say whatever the fuck you want about her… that’s one of the coldest fucking things I’ve heard said.
It's a cold line, but like many lines and words, it doesn't match reality. We know Ronda's wins play over and over and over again in her head because they are the only distraction from her losses. Circulating them helps her maintain the illusion she is still "undefeated." The woman she said those words to would indeed have to think about her all the time if she didn't disappear from the sport in infamy, could never face her fans or the media after 2 losses, and isn't now being lampooned for a tell all where she blames everyone else. Many of the women she defeated would go on to have far more respectable careers in the sport, and can walk into a venue without fear of being booed. She's the one stuck on her glory days and afraid to even come to a UFC event.
I mean, it seems to have been true. After that loss her opponent's career was just over. It shook her permanently. And she said some real shit you never should say to someone so Rousey was right in hating that bitch at least lmao
As someone who has been an amateur fighter I really can't wrap my head around the fact that most of the champions in these sports act like complete assholes.
@@holstatt6896 I don't know how it is in "not the west" but this is what ended up making me turn away from the sport. What happened to the "do sport for fun"?
Mt wife and I were in Vegas for an event in 2014 Rhonda was signing autographs and she was completely being a shitty person to fans like she was better then everyone that was the day I stopped being a fan not that I was ever a huge rousy fan the talk of beating male bantamweights and Mayweather let me know how delusional she was
Ppl think celebrities owe them something it’s weird! Why can’t she be a shitty person and still be damn good at what she does? I don’t need her to be my friend for me to respect what she does!
Her WWE career behind the scenes was worse than her UFC career because she spent the entire tenure of both runs bragging that P.W. Is fake and she could beat each wrestler in a real fight; all the while whining and complaining that she didn't get then"help" she needed to become a solid in-ring worker. Chick was lazy, never learned the craft, was terrible on the mic and still has a horrible attitude. Fans turned on her quick because they saw through her B.S. and stopped loving her; which is all she lives for. The biggest insult to fans is her sh*tting on the art of Pro-Wrestlers whilst wearing the name/logo of one of its greatest legends and heavy defenders; "ROWDY" Roddy Piper. It's a slap in the face to his legacy and she deserves no sympathy for how she approached her career.
The loss must have hurt terribly, but to give up after all that? She was still a tremendous fighter. Losing once during such a tremendous career doesn’t make her a failure.
Attitude, personality, sportsmanship, being humble are all qualities that can make or break any sports star and it’s very obvious that Rhonda had issues with all of them. If she would have give respect to those that not only beat her but destroyed her she would have been looked at way differently
Rhonda was good, but the issue was that she was not *as good* as she thought she was and she let the wrong people blow a lot of smoke up her pooper. She was a darn good judoka, but she’s not a great fighter and we saw that when women who were hardcore fighters came into the UFC. I take nothing away from Rhonda though, because she was good and she’d probably be able to kick my crippled ass.
I can pinpoint the EXACT moment the veil was lifted on Rousey and EVERYONE knew she was a spoiled brat. Her freaking out running to daddy Dana when Tate said she was there to coach. From there on through the show her personality just kept showing and making her unlikable and after she beat Tate and refused to shake hands that was it. People were praying fot her downfall and when Holm made her look lost, I smiled. The Holm fight and head kicked KO was probably my top 5 ALL TIME title fights 😈 Rhonda was good but she had the benefit of coming up when the women's MMA was scarce.
She is widely disliked and ridiculed because of her foul personality and massive self-absorption to the point of looking more like a parody on a person than actually looking like a real one. All her acting right down to such aspects as the phraseology and facial expressions she uses (and always did way before her losses) telling a story of a kid in an adult body. And I urge to watch those clips with her mother talking, try to feel the vibe, it's unsettling. She is so massively delusional, that she wasn't able to recognize the need to use her judo later in the career, and actually believing 100% in how perfect her "boxing" is, it's may be understandable for a spectator, but for the professional fighter herself it's beyond bizarre. It's all a shame really, because she as a fighter a great and important piece of history of MMA, and the only thing that hold (at this point probably forever will be) from being loved is all this strange out of the blue blaming others for her losses and calling herself a winner in defeat, and all her spite towards everyone who doesn't call her the queen of MMA and not agreeing that a loss is a win in her case. In reality, without all that BS she would have been now easily one of the most beloved and praised retired athletes in this sport. And also, me, as a judoka, I would like her as much as I like Karo =) But personally I can't like just a mechanism, an athlete in a nutshell, I can surely recognize the achievement, but people worthy of praise are people in the first place, a character, a public persona plus an athlete, all in a bundle. I wish her to look on all this from a different angle, not that one from she's stuck looking at things. Not sure it's possible for her after living whole life like that. Maybe it'll happen one day and she'll realize all that is obvious for everyone else. Would be neat, really. Being an athlete wins medals and belts. But to win respect and love and praise a sportsmanship is required, not just athleticism. She lacks in morality and healthy humility, that's the story. Not judging nor looking down upon her, it's just important to call everything as it is. It's all on the surface, I'm not "investigating", just describing.
That she was so full of herself is even more astonishing because she started in judo, a sport where respect of the sport and the opponent are essential elements. Being respectful doesn't take anything from bravery, but maybe hatred was her engine, she couldn't go without feeling wronged
@@creolespanish34 not that I'm a psychologist nor a psychiatrist, but anyway, on a personal level, I would imagine that in any sport on a level of "high achievement" aka high level competition, many people are prone to be somewhat of an unusual beings. Just by the nature of environment, one (maybe) needs to be a little cray' to be successful on that level and in such harsh of a circumstance. But, saying that, I personally don't think it's an excuse for being a jerk, in a broad sense. As for me, she seems to have personality issues (in a strictly psychiatric sense, as in personality disorder, but again, I'm not a psychiatrist, just my opinion). So, her problems might well be based not in her career, but in her life itself. But, who knows, no matter the cause, the way she presents herself is what I'm gonna base my opinion of her on. Overall, I agree with you 100%
@@Skank_and_Gutterboy seems about right. Do you remember the face she used to make when she fought her last several fights in the UFC, even prior to the first loss? Like a grumpy toddler, frown brows, gathered lips, beyond dorky, it was unpleasant to watch on a grown lady. Spoke volumes about her, to me personally. She's truly twisted as a person, I struggle to remember one another person in combat sports to remind me of something similar
@@Pootie_Tang One comment about it that stuck with me, somebody said, "She thinks she looks tough, she looks like Donkey Kong Jr." I think you mean this look, right? She looks like an idiot: ua-cam.com/video/YIK6ALz3cX0/v-deo.htmlsi=yd5DcEC4KT78cUgY&t=20
Ronda was a marketing bandwagon the whole time and it taught me how easily you can get the average consumer to like things because they think it's popular.
Ronda's mom warned her about Edmund being a toxic character. Her mother told her to stick to the judo base gameplan. The problem is that every time a grappler thinks its a good idea to change their fight menu to boxing, they lose terribly. It happened to Islam Makhachev. The one fight where that crazy ass Javier convinced him to go for striking rather than grappling ended in the single blemish on his MMA record. And Abdulmanap, God rest his soul, warned him it was a bad idea. He warned them all & they didn't listen. Went out there to lose. He could've had a perfect record like Khabib but he abandoned who he really was. Like Ronda. When she abandoned Judo, she forgot who she was & she's been wandering aimlessly ever since. Makhachev went back to the grappling game plan prescribed to him by Abdulmanap & Khabib right after that loss. Now he's champ. It's good to hone your skills but you never forget what your are & what initiated you into MMA. Ronda isn't a bad person. My Judo coach was on her Olympic team, believe it or not. Back in 2015 when i first learned Judo, my coach told me about Ronda because i asked. My coach said she was very nice & down to earth. Didn't sound anything like her in her decline. I think it was all that fame got to her head & her coaches didn't push her to be be well rounded while playing to her strengths. When she also got caught up in the fame which took her focus off the sport. If ur a pro-fighter, u have to be breathing, eating, sleeping & living MMA. No other way about it. She should've quit when she started acting. Retired with the belt & then made bank on publicity. In order to snap herself back into reality now, she needs to go to Japan & seek a Judo coach. Only Judo can cleanse & purify her mind & spirit. Judo is who she is & as long as she distances herself from it, she can never find that balance again.
She was a bully that eventually got took down HARD and never mentally recovered. Did you really blame her trainer fan boy? Nobody ever criticized her that you saw because she was an ego monster.
The truth is the Roster was paper thin when she started. Take any ranked boxer today and send them back to the 19th century, they would be considered the greatest fighter that ever lived.
Like how many times can you get arm bars before someone figures it out, and/or just kicks you in the face. She is one of the best Judoka’s ever but MMA? She just advanced the sport and the competition. Honestly she deserves respect. Not everything is an excuse. But excuses are exaggerating.
Idk why people are taught armbars, outside of schools & stuff where you have to be gentle. I was lucky & my mentor was a USMC vet so one of the first things i was taught was how easy it is to get out of one. Granted i never used it in an MMA fight, just against schoolyard bullies & the like
This is was a balanced essay. I really appreciate the last points you made in the end. Her career isn't a failure, she did the damn thing, she opened a lot of doors we also acknowledge her short comings. Thank you.
She started losing because she started facing actual fighters. She basically made the women’s division and the talent pool was lacking hard. Chicks were getting signed just so they can have female fight cards. She was totally outclassed as soon as the real fighters were signed.
That's her trainer's fault, he should never have accepted her to change her style.. Don't ask a fish to wear feathers, or bird to be a fish... Nurmagomedov left undefeated 29-0 .. Just doing His technique ! No One called him "one pony trick", even if they did, he wouldn't have changed 1 thing, except toughen up on the boxing and standing game.. As for her "bad guy" personna.. it's her own choosing..!
She just didn’t have any respect for it and I think she is right. WWE is a joke. Too bad she ruined her legacy but not just bowing out to the better athletes.
She was a sore loser and unbelievably disrespectful/cocky. Her not shaking hands, the way she spoke, etc. was not it. Also, the shot of her punching at 24:15 sent me 😭
@@Halfort57Wym? NO other girls could stop her takedowns for like 3 years. That was the level of "women's mma" at the time. Anyone who (I guess? I'm not claiming I'm a genius here) watches mma sees the girls are STILL not at the level of Men's mma. Her clinch is still legit to half of these girls I see today. SOME of them have learned a better wrestling base which is all the men really have that puts them so far ahead....that and the fact they are Men and women generally are like a 13 yr old boy is to his big 20yr old brother in speed/strength: the kid may surprise his bro when they play but it's all down to his brothers Restraint on how much the kid gets hurt. This is how you spar with women in an mma gym and it sucks and is boring.
@@Halfort57 don't fear the man who has practiced 10,000 moves once or whatever Bruce Lee said. I would argue that if that's her only move, and her opponents knew that as well, and she was still able to land it on them perfectly, that makes it even more impressive
I'm a former boxing manager and have a real problem with any sport including MMA whose goal is for the fighter to cause a concussion and knock their opponent out. That said, it's really hard to imagine that somebody who achieved a record 12 wins and 2 loses can be considered anything like an all time great. If if a baseball pitcher has one dominating great season and then quits he wouldn't even make a Hall of Fame ballot. No boxer who add just 14 fights would be near that Hall of Fame. Rousey was a good fighter on her very short career, period. Her ego ended her career and ironically saved her brain from the serious damage that sport causes.
I appreciate the focus on your final monologue in this video. Ronda is a human being. It’s that simple. Everyone fucks up, multiple times even. We just don’t do it under the lights of UFC super stardom. She did wrong not giving credit to her opponents. She did wrong shunning her media duties. Ronda carries immense hurt from her family’s past, and with a mixture of yes men and immovable determination she took some wrong turns, ultimately becoming outclassed in the cage by more evolved fighters.
One thing I really did like about Ronda Rousey was that she was a Huge Dragonball fan. She would dress up in clothes like Vegeta which I thought was pretty cool as a big fan myself.
Ronda Rousey was a force to be reckoned with in the MMA. Most everyone at that time agreed that Rousey was a phenominal force in the Octagon. Her greatest downfall was her arrogance and her lack of respect for her opponents. The bandwagon fans that embraced her rise to the top were so quick to jump on that same bandwagon when she fell from grace. Her legacy and impacr on the sport will and should never be questioned, but her attitude toward the rwo females that beat her will always be a matter of contention for Rousey and a credible criticism of what she ultimately became as a person and a competitor.
The effort gone into these videos is insane, I can't imagine how difficult it would be balancing the work load of making these videos with everyday life
@@MixedMartialAcademicget a backup channel somewhere. Your'e work is excellent and it would be such a shame if YT decided to censor or even delete your channel. I know from personal experience how much it sucks having your work memory holed by this weird platform. So even though your channel isnt political i would recommend a backup on another platform, cause the censorship on this platform is sooo over the top and random sometimes , that I wouldnt trust the platform at all. Just a friendly tip . 🫡 greetings from Denmark
Olympic gold medalist, UFC champion, defended her title multiple times, She earned respect as an athlete as far as im concerned. That alone is impressive AF, regardless of anything else.
Imagine being in an org called strike force yet all ur wins are arm bars haha n at that time not many woman did judo or much ground game,they kicked n punched🤷🏾♂️
It's interesting to imagine what a more "Humble Ronda" would have looked like; one that fires her crappy coach and takes the losses in a similar humble fashion to Dominic Cruz losing to Cody Garbrandt. I would think she would have been much more lovingly remembered by fans and had more staying power in the sport overall.
I love your conclusion. I do feel sorry for Rhonda. There were was no one in her corner telling that she could be both a fighter and a lady at the same time.
it is crazy that her first EVER loss was on such a huge stage like that. her ego was so big she couldn’t recover.
It’s not like she didn’t lose in the Olympic Games.
@@zplapplap Her ego wasn't as big then.
@@st7728nah she was a sore loser in judo as well. I lot of people in the judo community already disliked her going into mma
She has lost before in Judo.
@@st7728 AS big. It was still colossal back then, she just didn't have a huge fanbase and tens of millions of eyes on her back, back then.
The video of Ronda shadowboxing and Joe "kermitthefragg" Rogan literally crying over how good her boxing is and how shes a once in lifetime... no, once in history type fighter... never gets old
It is an old and gold!
LMAO
Rogan is so shameless and snake like he's probably proud of the video.
My guy actually thought Joe Cuckan was some witty name lmfao
@@kermitthefragg it is witty
better than 'kermitthefragg'
phaggggg
24:26 every time I hear people give a retrospective on the hype around Ronda’s boxing “skill” no one ever catches what Tyson says there “She’s really doing good stuff” that is code for, “for someone that don’t know how to box, she is trying.”
She throw all of her punches from her elbow, never turned her hips over on the cross or hook, and that’s just what I saw from her highlights
Poor guy was trying to be polite
Ronda's biggest enemy was herself. Holly kicked her in the head, but Ronda made us all glad for it.
Indeed. Her ego got too inflated.
Her ego is huge yet so incredibly fragile. 😅
She's a "vulnerable narcissist".
Oh well she had her kicks
I always knew she wasn't who ppl said she was. Even a novice boxer would have seen she had no skills, she lacked footwork.
She simply didn't know how to lose. The greatest fighters in the world can all lose a fight, it how they bounce back from that which makes them great. She was bad at losing and her arrogance was gross.
as much as I hate to admit it dogasanya is a great example after the way he bounced back after his loss to Alex and beat him. also gsp coming back and absolutely destroying serra and hughs is a prime example
@@berennicholas5003as much as dogasanya was great bouncing back against Alex, he was pathetic in handing off his post fight after Strickland and generally how he’s handled this era
^ Yeah, not sure what this dude is on. Jizzy Eatersanya is an awfully sore loser. Constant excuses after each loss. He couldn’t just outright say, “Strickland whooped my ass and he’s the better fighter.” It was, “I felt like I was in a dream. My arms felt like noodles!” He did the exact same shit when he lost to Alex too. Excuse after excuse.
@@berennicholas5003a better example is gsp. Every lost he avenged and never made an excuse. Or DJ
It really defines who a person actually is... I don't know any fighter, myself include (years ago - street and on mats / rings who has NEVER lost, or have had someone get the better of anyone on their rise in training and experience... Ronda is one of the most pathetic losers I've seen male or female.. I was absolutely disgusted by both Forrest and DC when they ran out of the ring after they got smashed.. Those two I DO respect for who they are outside of that.. I don't see redeeming qualities in Ronda.. Getting hated while not intentionally being a heel in pro wrestling.. That had to have stung far worse than Amanda treating her like a jello bag..
Where's the part when she says she can beat Cain Velasquez, and then he beat her 6'8 boyfriend, travis brown?
I thought you were joking until I looked it up lmao 😅
No one can deny her place in MMA. But the game waits for no one. She didnt keep up and got left behind.
she was a Phenom n no-one can take tht away frm her.
she Mos Def made her mrk in the sport.
Pretty much mate
@@MixedMartialAcademic Thnk U Lion for doing these vids!
U n thm r appreci8d!
MMA is the only sporti can sit n watch for hrs.
wondr how a Lee n Rousey fight woulda went down........
Love n Blessings Family!!!
True, doesn’t take away from her being a shitty person
its not even keep up she just could never be told that she wasnt the greatest. If you never even acknowledge there is a problem it cant be fixed. Ronda with a better attitude and being more open to criticism and coaching could have been great.
She should be ashamed of the way she treated holly and how delusional she continues to be
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Look at the way you’re all treating her. How about you all practice what you preach?
@@RainReignsX where is the wrong in pointing out facts?
@@steinanderson9849 facts, truth, opinions all have sides my friend. Your reading and taking a side on one.
Why should she be ashamed (don't think her narcissism allows her to be)... Holly truly shamed her punk arse, for sure!
@_JC_21 I'm taking a side for asking what is wrong with pointing out facts?
also facts donts have sides
Fun Fact: She got a bronze medal for coming in 4th in the Olympics.
Also, almost all her wins in the UFC came over girls without real MMA coaches (Tate, McMann, Zingano, Correia, Davis didn't have real coaches, they're coaches were they're boyfriends who didn't and don't coach any other UFC fighters) But Holly and Amanda had real coaches.
It's true, and she's a delusional bitch, but her impact on woman's MMA is unparalleled. I love Gina Carano, but no one cared before Rousey unfortunately.
Did she come 4th? I didn't know that semifinalists faced each other in combat sports in the olympics. Both losing semifinalists just get bronze. As far as I know.
@@Undivided-X Judo is weird...Ronda lost to Edith Bosch in the quarter-finals and that is who she shared her bronze medal with. Ronda got a bronze medal because in Judo they do a repechage bracket and the winner of that gets a second bronze medal, most sports dont' give out two bronzes or two of any medal, I don't know why Judo does.
So yeah, in this case the two people who shared bronze did face each other and Ronda lost.
@@ManBat420 You're right, I forgot about repechage, but as far as I'm aware it's not just judo that does this. Wrestling has this too.
@@Undivided-X I know other sports do repechage brackets, but I've never heard of any sport giving out a second bronze medal. Does wrestling give out a second bronze medal to the person who wins the repechage bracket?
You can judge a person by how they treat the staff. Restaurant staff, retail - the fact that she was awful to then says exactly who she is.
YES!
yeah but people change over time and you are not perfect, just like she is not perfect so shut up dude
@@osvaldoramirezcastillo how about you shut up and go simp for Rhonda somewhere else 😂
In general, that’s considered true..but ultimately, generalisations are never a meaningful metric.
Uhmm most people DONT change lmao.@osvaldoramirezcastillo
Rhonda did the same thing in UFC as she did in WWE turn everyone against her because she's unbearable! Has not one ounce of humility whatsoever.
That comes from the way she was raised her mum always told her she was the best at everything and made excuses when she lost and told her she was still better than the kids she lost to and they just got lucky then her coaches did the same all through her adult life its honestly really sad because she doesn't know how to take criticism and takes everything so personally because she was never given any criticism when she was younger and you can tell its completely fucked her up mentally she just needs to step away from the spotlight focus on getting her head straight and raising her kids because it will only end badly if she doesn't
The people around her created a monster mate, if everyone around you keeps gaslighting you and tells you that you are infallible, or totally awesome, while never pushing you to ever exceed yourself because you are already "perfect".
The shame is that Ronda was a talented athlete, and she doesn't seem like an irredeemable person, she's just got gaslit by her family and team to this point.
@@AveSicariuspersonally don't think she is nearly as close as that soccer player raphone 🙈
So is her coach to blame I thought he was a godod
boxing coach
@@MMAdiehardfan head movements head movement 🚑🏥🛏️💤
"Without Ronda, there is no Amanda Nunes."
Don't take away from Amanda. She was fighting in Invicta while Ronda was in the UFC. Yes, Ronda helped build the platform, but Amanda was already on her way -- and she surpassed Ronda's dominance in the sport.
She also fought Cyborg, something Ronda was afraid to do. I can say that confidentially, because I have been watching the sport since the Strike Force days. Ronda always made excuses to avoid Cyborg, whereas Amanda beat her.
Now, before people say, "Well, Cyborg and Ronda were in different weight classes," Ronda actually started her career in the featherweight division (145 lbs). Then, she dropped down to the bantamweight division (135 lbs).
In contrast, Amanda simultaneously held UFC championship belts in both divisions.
Thank you...the thought that Nunes (or others) wouldnt be where she is today because of Ronda is comical.
McGregor laughing at Rondas shadowboxing is legendary))))))
Was he laughing at that? I thought the guy put it in the video for a laugh. 🤣
He did lol. Conor laughing was him laughing at Dustin poirier because he got under his skin.
@@NorcoNate
well conor _is_ a male Rhonda.
if you include those f** russians and dagestanis.
he had to start training 10 years earlier to bring it to that level, same as Rhonda
yeah duh we know the clip is real. Thats bot the question. He did not. It wasn'tabout Rondas clip
@user-nn7jq1rq5u
@@SurelyCursed He literally just said that lol.
HEAD MOVEMENT! HEAD MOVEMENT!
CLINCH CLINCH CLINCH!
"NOOOOOOOO!!!!!" 🤣
Cliiiiinnnhhhchhhhh
😂
Thats what travis tells her now 😂
She went wrong when she thought she was good enough to strike with elite strikers. She was only at a high enough level with Judo. Imagine if Royce Gracie went in thinking he could strike with his opponents.
She could have utilised it similar to how Khabib did, takedown/grapple threats open striking opportunities. But the striking wasnt about enhancing her overall fighting proficiency it was purely ego based delusion that she was the greatest no matter how she fought - she could have been the undisputed had she the slightest notion of what humility is.
If she’d had to go through the same things other people had to get to that belt she would've known her striking isn't up to par. She might've lost and learned how to lose.
I remember watching an interview with Ronda Rousey and Mike Tyson together. Tyson talked about the pitfalls to avoid while being atop the world, and Rousey dismissed it. That's when I knew the end had come.
No you didnt
@@IKI11Ilet’s not tell other men what they did and didn’t do buddy, you don’t know shit🤣
@@FlyestSeagull im the only man here, you don’t know shit
@@FlyestSeagull you ain’t man buddy
@@IKI11I fun fact! you know just about the same about me as the last guy, absolutely jackshit nothing🤣 the more baseless assumptions you make, the more that you look like a child
Her ego is what ruined her career. She is a sore loser. She should have just admitted defeat. She was an awesome fighter it is her attitude that fans didn’t like. She could of kept her head up and kept fighting
Maybe after the suicide of her father she felt any loss was letting him down and could not deal with that. Thats not ego, that's childhood trauma.
World class egotist + over exaggerated skills = Delusional, sore loser Rhonda. As you poingantly stated, all she had to do was admit that better fighters beat her because they were more skilled, better prepared, and executed better. However, Rhonda clearly has a weak character, and could not look in the mirror and say, "Self, you're just not as good as you thought you were". She couldn't say it to herself, she sure as hell couldn't say it in a mass media interview.
Could have********
she's the product of her mother raising her alone. When Amanda punched her out of MMA, her mother said "let her have it, we're better than getting punched in the face for a paycheck".
Now she goes to podcasts saying she was concussed and fighting with a torn ACL against Holly lol.
Imagine that, she's the best female fighter ever, but fights injured and loses. Fine, it happens. First thing she would do, if the crap she's been saying was real, she would heal, train and ask for an immediate rematch with Holly, but she never did that, she didn't want any of that heat.
Then she took a year off, came back and was destroyed, retired and now says "her mind wasn't there anymore". So annoying. No humility nor respect for much more accomplished fighters. Amanda lost to Peña on a fluke win, didn't say a thing, came back and dominated her completely to reclaim what's her. That's what a true champion do, not retire from the sport pretending that now you're too good for it as Ronda did.
Was well done, and I learned a few things I never new.
I used to laugh at all women's sports. Amanda Nunez changed that about me
I rewatched the Holly Holm fight, it's such a good example of being completely outclassed
Funny thing is, if Ronda stuck to grappling she probably submits Holly
that one - one of the best entrances ever. HH
It's Holm not Holmes atleast get her name right
@@darrellwilliams1714 opps, you're right. I corrected it, thanks for the catch
@@NorcoNateto bad she’s to dumb to realize that lol
Not a fan of RR and never disliked her. I was watching the Holm /RR fight sitting on the fence. But when she refused to shake hands with Holm, i instantly disliked her and celebrated her well deserved loss.
Her fight with Holm always reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Homer becomes a boxer. He wins by outlasting bums and lousy fighters, but the moment he fights someone who actually knows how to fight, he gets his crap kicked in thoroughly.
"Due to popular demand... we will forgo our national anthem."
Miesha ain't a bum
Rouseys coach: All right, Ronda, I'm not gonna lie to you. There's a good chance you can beat Holm. But you gotta visualize how you're gonna win, okay?
Ronda’s thought bubble: A congenital heart defect has apparently felled Holm moments before she could step into the ring.
If Ronda had a better team around her and had any ounce of humility, she would’ve still been held in high regard. She’s still a pioneer and I hope she finds peace with the career she had
Ya a pioneer at being a sore loser 🤧 .
I'll never get tired of watching Holly Holm completely outclass and destroy Ronda Rousey.
When Holly ducked under Rhondas tired left hook… amazing
Facts 👍
Amanda Nunez, too.
Rousey completely underestimated her. 💪
I also never get tired of watching Holm lose to Meisha Tate the next match.
@@Takaho31 I don't know about that, by nunez time she was in kicked in the head land it seems to me
Shows if you're not humble you become a villian, all she needed to do was to say hey good job holly good fight, and she would be loved like Ali.
Yeah I agree, deffo the hate is pretty radical, but I agree the one thing that annoys me about her is she didnt pass on the tourch
I don't think the hate is radical, I think she brought it on herself
WHY?!!??!!!? What is wrong with all of you? You realize some people are just WHO THEY ARE?? It reads like you're all saying, "I wish she would've just bullshtted us all then we'd love her!!"
I mean...."loved like Ali"?? That dude went through the cosmos and back, was loved then hated back to loved....he was just "Doing" being who he was. I think Ronda was too. Not every special athlete or whatever is going to be a beacon of light. Ppl are ppl.
@@exspiravit6920 Well she is had alot of backlash and maybe she would have an easier time if she could harness just the tiniest bit of empathy. But yes she is free to act like a spolied brat all she wants it just makes her really unlikelable and that is why her career is down the drain. It just seems like she lost alot due to her pride.
@@exspiravit6920 TBF Ali came back - if anything his defeats elevated his triumphs even further. Ali is just beyond comparison to Rousey in so many ways. Even in terms of a life story, the people who truly despised him then, now look back on their hatred as a relic of an era because the man was willing to sacrifice to prove that he was more than shallow bravado. Put it this way, the man who challenged the American government and society came to be seen by America as one of THE truly great Americans.
Rousey was just shallow bravado and there was no strength of character to help her recover from being brought down, and I think that is what folks are getting at. Had she possessed spiritual strength and moral courage to bolster her talent then that combination could have elevated her past the adversity she faced, either helping her be competitive again or just helped her cement her career accomplishments instead of blemishing them in a cloud of disgrace. What is crazy is how her example is perfect at explaining how important those factors are, and also, I should stress that what is meant by "spiritual" and "moral" is not referring necessarily to religious faith or any particular ethics but building yourself mentally into an in dominatable person ready to confront anything - including a loss, so that failure or losing DOES NOT defeat you.
To borrow the definitions from the military;
Spiritual fortitude is to make meaning of experiences and be resilient when faced with adversity to create inner strength.
Moral courage is the willingness to stand firm on your values, principles, and convictions-even when threatened.
Holly Holm not only beat Ronda in grand fashion,she exposed her.
I’d go so far as to say that Holly Holmes is the anti-Roussey. She exposed her and more importantly, she made an example of her.
@@JumpCutThis Learn to f'n spell! It's HOLM and ROUSEY.
I'm just glad that Holly didn't one-punch her, then she'd have the excuse that it was a lucky punch. Holly completely took her apart. Holly moved like a jungle cat stalking her prey, Ronda moved like a roided-up cow.
@@johnaustin209relax lol
@@johnaustin209 Take your medications mate
Mixed Martial Academics, I think it’s really cool that you acknowledged the fact that, if not for Rousey, there would be no women’s division. Love her, or hate her, she brought brand new eyes to MMA/UFC for a new generation of people who may never have become interested in this sport.
I disagree with this mind of mentality in general. If it wasn't her, it would have been someone else. Might have taken an extra year or 2, but it was inevitable. And whoever that person was, she would be just as hyped up as RR. Because that part is a vital part of the business model, it's the PR and advertising that made her a household name, would have done the same if it wasn't her and it was someone else a year or 2 later.
@@hustla818 what a great comment! You’re absolutely right and I feel really stupid about my comment. I’m not a fighter, I’m a musician for my living for almost 40 yrs. The exact thing you spoke about has come up time and again in my career over the years, and you’re so dead-on about what you said. Thank you for your respectful rebuttal. I humbly stand corrected. Best wishes from Las Vegas
@@hustla818 But it wasn’t. It was her. What a stupid comment.
I’ve heard people making excuses and crying about Ronda this, Ronda that…
We don’t cry, defend or make excuses for a schoolyard bully, why start with her?
Her WWE run did not help her image either. She basically came in with an attitude then got annoyed when fans booed her.
Not to mention she got one of the wrestlers fired for an absolute nothingburger recently (something that vaguely happened like she said it did and the guy apologized to her years ago). She had to promote a book and WWE just had all the Vince McMahon drama, so they deemed it better to fire a guy, instead of potential bad publicity.
@@DarkSun123456789poor drew gulak
I imagine HHH will bring him back once this nonsense dies down
Drew would be a wonderful addition to the training crew once he retires
@@DarkSun123456789It sounds like she Amber Hearded him.
@@Emper0rH0rdeApparently he brought his hand up to shake her hand and it accidentally brushed the string of her pants and she got offended by it lol
How she started in WWE is basically she first left UFC post Holly Holm. Arrogant, cocky, believe her own hype & refuse to be humble.
The only reason why Rousey excelled is because the female MMA theater was still relatively new, and the real talents haven't stepped into the spotlight just yet. She has never been anything more than a one trick pony.
Well said sir
I really like Miesha Tate, but there's a lot of irony in her saying that Ronda only got her opportunity because she's a pretty face when Miesha is way more attractive to begin with. Also, Ronda was speaking nothing but facts in that Ariel Helwani interview.
Think Miesha didn't like getting out shone by Ronda and made her say some stupid stuff. It was nice to see Tate down the line get her championship belt in the UFC though, she deserved it.
@@MixedMartialAcademicOne of the few times I've cried at an MMA fight.
still she a cutie tho
Early Women's MMA was seemingly all about just putting conventionally attractive women together to fight whenever possible.
Misha probably was feeling a bit shown up, but it did show a lack of self-awareness about what was happening in the sport at the time (or maybe it was a subtle call out). It's fucked, but promotions seemed to sometimes treat female fighters like more glorified ring girls given the material that was released surrounding them.
Tate is 10x more attractive than rousey not only physically but personality wise to.
As a wrestling fan, Rhonda thought she mma hype was going to carry her but she was wrong. Wrestling fans dont give a fuck about mma unless you come from wrestling frist. Don't even talk about how bad she was on the mic
You’re right, she was a far better fighter than she was actress.
Thats because wrestling is fu*kin 🏳️🌈
Acrobatic wrestling or real competition wrestling?
@@ytsn_THE_OG How is this a question when everyone knows she went to WWE lmao.
All they had to do is have Heyman advocate for her as a heel MMA fighter who finds winning in WWE too easy (in the Brock Lesnar mould).
She would wrestle only occasionally, destroy a girl and then disappear with the belt.
She wouldn't need to be exposed as a limited in-ring worker and would never need to talk.
She could have been a mega heel for Becky Lynch, or whoever.
Mike Tyson sounded like he was trying to be nice. Lmao
Holly Holmes took her dignity Amanda took her soul
Holm
Tarverdyan took her dignity 😂
Holly dug Ronda’s grave, Amanda shoveled the dirt on it. And Ronda’s crappy attitude was the disease.
She couldn't even take a lose in WWE ...
Holm you clod
She humiliated herself not by losing but by not accepting the losses. We've all been there girl, we've all lost, we've all felt terrible about it. Pretending it didn't happen, going into hiding, and refusing to properly acknowledge and accept it just makes you look silly to the audience and allows the loss to continue to eat you alive... I hope she realizes this someday and frees herself.
Not only that but showing no ability to adapt during a fight, some of those fights she must have known she was getting wrecked but still decided to not go for a takedown/submission
Considering the fact she went to WWE and got mad and ruined everything because she wasn't a good guy 😂
Word.
**Comparing your experiences to Ronda rousy is hilarious, you're not her. She's kinda an idiot, but she's also a pioneer.**
Well people were telling her she was the best ever. Joe rogan was saying she could beat up floyd mayweather and even small male mma fighters. She couldn't do either. Plus women aren't treated like men. They're catered to and pampered their entire lives. So they're not equipped to deal with failure. Let's face it, though.. getting absolutely destroyed at something you're great at can really mess with you and make you rethink your entire career choice.
Something I noticed is Rhonda fought women who always looked smaller (until Alexis Davis, who seemed a bit of can). Even miesha and cat looked smaller… until she fought alexis, holm, and nunes who actually needed to cut weight a bit for 135.
It’s sad that all of those girls who looked up to her for being a “strong woman” & a winner never learned how to lose & not make excuses for failure, which is far more important in life.
they can now look to the likes of Nunes, Joanna and Cyborg
How do you know those girls never learned how to lose and not make excuses for their failure? Or are you just making up people to be upset about?
Good sport or poor sport? In the game of life true champions are remembered not only for their successes, but more importantly for their grace after a loss.
Women in combat sports is yet another sign of how America is collapsing culturally and how vulgar our society has become.
@@tarstarkuszwould you detail that? I'm interested in hearing more about why you think this?
It's called "falling off the cliff" when an athlete loses their prime basically overnight. An athlete goes from being dominant for a period of time all of a sudden they lose several in a row. Especially against opponents they could have beaten earlier in their career.
I think too much gets made of fighters that Ronda previously beat that went on to become champions and her fans wear that as a feather in their cap. Ronda beat them when they were new to the UFC and they just weren't very good. A fighter has the right to improve. When Miesha Tate got beaten by Ronda, she was sloppy as hell, looked terrible in that fight, and was nothing like the fighter that beat Holly Holm for the bantamweight championship 3 years later. That's how it went for most of the fighters in that division. They trained, got good coaching, and got better while Ronda sat back and let it ride.
When Ronda beat Tate in 2013, I remember Dana White talking some real trash about Miesha, saying that she's a has-been and needs to retire. He was actually right, it was her 3rd loss in 4 fights and she looked like total garbage in her loss to Ronda. To Miesha's credit, she went to work, trained harder, went on a 5-fight win streak, and capped it off by beating Holy Holm for the bantamweight championship. Now contrast Ronda's 1st loss. She did the exact opposite. She crumbled like an Oreo cookie and hid from the media in her house for a year. Talk is talk. Miesha turned it around and showed it in the ring. Ronda just gave up.
There wasn't enough depth or history in women's mma to know how good she was in the first place.
I don't think she fell off in the way you typically see with athletes. I think if she kept doing her takedown to armbar shtick she would have remained competitive for much longer.
Her skills didn't abandon her, injury didn't derail her.... she just decided that she was a boxer and nothing anyone could say was going to convince her otherwise.
@@Skank_and_Gutterboy Few of those women had the same background in fighting that Rousey did-- most of those women grew up doing gymnastics or dancing, not fighting. I agree with you, the caliber of fighter she fought was poor, with the first credible opponent being Holly Holm.
She didn't fall off no cliff.
She was never up there to begin with.
I remember watching the fight with Holly Holm live, my dad kept saying "oh Rousey's going to win in the first round she always wins", but as soon as she refused to touch gloves I said "she's going to lose", and to this day I regret not betting on that fight, I'd be rolling in it now lol
I haven’t seen a bubble burst like Ronda’s ego after losing 1 fight since the 2008 market crash
😂
Right? Her ego got dropped like the dow jones
Shout out to Liz carmouche, her most recent pro MMA win was last month, 2024 in PFL!
Rousey last pro win was 2015...
Holy shit, has it actually been that long? The last decade has flownnnnn 😂
She got kicked in the head soo hard she thought she could "wrassle"
Even when you are labeled the "Best" at anything, always remember there IS someone out there better than you. It's your job to find them. Make that your goal and you will succeed.
That phrase "there's always someone better than you" is not mathematically possible since there's a finite number of people
@@jckdnls9292 Actually it is because one's ability ebbs and flows in a career. Hence Rhonda's spirit was broken w a kick to the head.
@@jckdnls9292Bro. He didn’t mean literally. He meant in competitive sports, you CAN find the best because you already play with the best. My God, stop being so dense.
@@ewjiml you just made my point, even in competitive sports there's even a smaller number, so sometimes YOU ARE the best. Even if for a short period
No one stays on top forever in these kinds of sports. Thats the reality.
"For my next trick I will block all strikes with my head"
Very hypocritical of Ronda saying Meisha Tate only post herself in booty short and yet Ronda does a cover of Sport Illustrated naked with body paint. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Yes and no.. she called her out on her hypocrisy.. not for wearing booty shorts
You missed her point entirely.
Her line about "My body is for more than f*ck*ng millionaires" is particularly ironic considering she flat out slept with Dana to get her UFC belt.
Ain’t no yes and no, you heard what was said
I like when women wanna show off and people freak out. Like dude have you never seen a undressed female in real life before. Just stop it. You know if you got a problem with women showing their bodies that a a you problem, so you go f off and deal with it. Not a leftist, it's just my opinion
For the first 31 minutes and 51 seconds I was just eagerly waiting for that infamous “she can try to kick me in the head, but it’s not gunna go like that!” line. Gotta love when a cocky, narcissistic, egomaniac of a fighter perfectly predicts their own downfall (or when they perfectly predict how they will defeat their opponent, except it happens to them, like we saw with bethe correida earlier).
let a woman talk long enough and they will tell on themselves and predict their own demise. Women project perfectly😅
Have you ever been truly confident about yourself in anything in life? She defended her belt like 8 times. You’d think you were the best female fighter on earth too
@yuhyuhtheindigo7085 I dont like Ronda... but I feel like people take it too far. Athletes are supposed to be confident. She's far from the greatest wmma fighter but she still was an Olympic Medalist and defended the belt a couple times and was the most famous one of them all. She's pretty much the conor of wmma.
@@BrunoBerryhoneybuns1370 men will take any opportunity to complain about women huh?
@@grogsmashrock7240 not as much as woman complain about men. sheeesh...have you ever watched women on UA-cam calling men trash? I mean, after you commented I did a quick search on YT...YEP, 1000s of videos women complaining about men. Go look. it's crazy
What makes a fighter's character isn't that they win every fight. It's what they do with themselves when they lose. Ronda didn't know how to lose because she bought her own hype. She couldn't handle being humbled as badly as she was against Holly Holm. So, she made excuses to shield herself because it was better than accepting the reality that she was bested by someone.
Joe should never be allowed to forget that he said Ronda’s hand speed was retarded in a good way.
Also Conor laughing maniacally at Ronda’s striking is GOLD.
Yeah I remember conman getting binked by Floyd
She was always insufferable, took people long enough to realize.
True. Her refusal to shake Tates hand was the breaking point
@@joetamburello6292 literally turned my stomach
@@blaseblasebih5706 agreed
And the whole "I can't be number one and shit on everyone anymore so I wanted to kill myself" Is a really pathetic excuse.
No excuses for being a jerk to everyone for no reason.
Imagine saying you are the greatest fighter of all time but can't get punched in the face cause you're easily concussed , what ? And if you're easily concussed why accept a job in the WWE , none of her shit makes any sense at all
I wouldn't say she's easily concussed. I watched the Nunez fight. She was just eating strikes to the face. It was kinda impressive that she was still standing. Eventually the Ref stepped in to stop the carnage.
Am I the only one who cannot stand her calling herself pretty over and over?
Is anything wrong with that? Compared to most of the female fighters who have manly faces and bodies, she definitely was pretty and had the feminine look, same with Miesha and Gina. One should not deny that fact simply because you hate her. Ronda was the pretty blonde. Miesha was calling her pretty, Ronda was just responding that she isn't just pretty, she has skills as well.
@@Luna_Anonymous exactly
Well, she is a narcissist so it tracks. She is full of 💩
@@Luna_Anonymousexactly, she is only considered pretty because the others look like men😂😂😂😂😂
She's hot. She can brag about it if she wants.
Although I 100% don’t agree with how Ronda Rousey took her loss and how she lacks humility, I still find it fascinating how the same people that attack her for that, will praise other fighters who have done wayyyy worse things. If you are going to critique one person, you must critique others too.
Right, she went through sm shit & imo was groomed (not in a good way). Obviously a big ego is never good, but I can understand why she had/has such a big ego after everything that happened to her.
No other female fighter got all the glory from UFC like she has. That's where the hate comes from. A UFC champ vs the PEOPLES champ
The funny thing is that EVERY reign is on borrowed time. Eventually, that interest payment comes due, and barring interference from Vince McMahon... errrrr, Dana White, you WILL default.
Wym? Conor fell, GSP well retired, Aldo fell, Jones ran away to fight in spurts, Volk fell....
I'm not catching the drift of your sweet analogy here lol.
Oh!! Do you mean like how he flipped the script with Francis and Jones with now Stipe' being held like he's still the same as before Francis 2nd fight? I'd call all that just being a typical "Fight Promoter". Dana isn't bad if you know that business even a little you just know he's not that bad. The reason (IK this is long-winded ) I stick up for him is because if you love mma rn then you DONT WANT the corporate execs or "Suits" to get inside the nuts and bolts of how mma is made, down to gyms/training/managers etc....because then the day WILL come when you will see a shyttt product and the fighters will have "Agents".
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Even for me, as a former wrestling fan, Ronda is and was the greatest female athlete to ever live. I quit watching wrestling part way through her wrestling career, and I actually thought she wouldn't come back. Her attitude is very sociopathic but that is part of her. As a sociopath myself, I can relate to her a lot. Rather than accept a loss, you try to build back your confidence with bluster since others aren't the source of your confidence or motivation. If you accept that you aren't the best anymore, you just don't want to do it anymore.. that's the way people like myself think. That's at least partially how I think Ronda felt. You can't look at someone and say "she's great but only her skills". Everything besides her skills is how those skills were built. Without her powerful personality, her "idgaf" mentality, she wouldn't be the arm snapping badass. Expecting her to be like other people who lose is just ridiculous. She's herself, and her attitude towards losing is just as important to who she is as her skills are. People may not like it, but they don't need to. Just respect her and don't bandwagon bully her over not responding the way you want her to.
“I’m not gonna have to think about her again. She’s gonna think about me a lot, I bet.”
Say whatever the fuck you want about her… that’s one of the coldest fucking things I’ve heard said.
Savage line. Probably right too
It's a cold line, but like many lines and words, it doesn't match reality.
We know Ronda's wins play over and over and over again in her head because they are the only distraction from her losses.
Circulating them helps her maintain the illusion she is still "undefeated."
The woman she said those words to would indeed have to think about her all the time if she didn't disappear from the sport in infamy, could never face her fans or the media after 2 losses, and isn't now being lampooned for a tell all where she blames everyone else.
Many of the women she defeated would go on to have far more respectable careers in the sport, and can walk into a venue without fear of being booed.
She's the one stuck on her glory days and afraid to even come to a UFC event.
Sounds like the usual cattiness 😂
Very well said@@leonfrancis3418
I mean, it seems to have been true. After that loss her opponent's career was just over. It shook her permanently. And she said some real shit you never should say to someone so Rousey was right in hating that bitch at least lmao
As someone who has been an amateur fighter I really can't wrap my head around the fact that most of the champions in these sports act like complete assholes.
Fighters wanting to be Yujiro Hanma is a lot more common than we want to admit; especially among westerners.
@@holstatt6896 I don't know how it is in "not the west" but this is what ended up making me turn away from the sport. What happened to the "do sport for fun"?
Mt wife and I were in Vegas for an event in 2014 Rhonda was signing autographs and she was completely being a shitty person to fans like she was better then everyone that was the day I stopped being a fan not that I was ever a huge rousy fan the talk of beating male bantamweights and Mayweather let me know how delusional she was
She treats her fans like peasants!
Lmao the moron was also thinking she could beat Cain back in the day,her stupidity have no bounds
Ppl think celebrities owe them something it’s weird! Why can’t she be a shitty person and still be damn good at what she does? I don’t need her to be my friend for me to respect what she does!
Her WWE career behind the scenes was worse than her UFC career because she spent the entire tenure of both runs bragging that P.W. Is fake and she could beat each wrestler in a real fight; all the while whining and complaining that she didn't get then"help" she needed to become a solid in-ring worker. Chick was lazy, never learned the craft, was terrible on the mic and still has a horrible attitude. Fans turned on her quick because they saw through her B.S. and stopped loving her; which is all she lives for. The biggest insult to fans is her sh*tting on the art of Pro-Wrestlers whilst wearing the name/logo of one of its greatest legends and heavy defenders; "ROWDY" Roddy Piper. It's a slap in the face to his legacy and she deserves no sympathy for how she approached her career.
The loss must have hurt terribly, but to give up after all that? She was still a tremendous fighter. Losing once during such a tremendous career doesn’t make her a failure.
I think she had an image of perfection of herself.
Then Holly kicked a crack into it
*Losing twice
Attitude, personality, sportsmanship, being humble are all qualities that can make or break any sports star and it’s very obvious that Rhonda had issues with all of them. If she would have give respect to those that not only beat her but destroyed her she would have been looked at way differently
really don't wanna make a joke about her poor dad but I wasn't listening properly at 0:35 and thought her mother said "we were slutty"
Rhonda was good, but the issue was that she was not *as good* as she thought she was and she let the wrong people blow a lot of smoke up her pooper. She was a darn good judoka, but she’s not a great fighter and we saw that when women who were hardcore fighters came into the UFC. I take nothing away from Rhonda though, because she was good and she’d probably be able to kick my crippled ass.
I can pinpoint the EXACT moment the veil was lifted on Rousey and EVERYONE knew she was a spoiled brat.
Her freaking out running to daddy Dana when Tate said she was there to coach. From there on through the show her personality just kept showing and making her unlikable and after she beat Tate and refused to shake hands that was it. People were praying fot her downfall and when Holm made her look lost, I smiled. The Holm fight and head kicked KO was probably my top 5 ALL TIME title fights 😈
Rhonda was good but she had the benefit of coming up when the women's MMA was scarce.
She is widely disliked and ridiculed because of her foul personality and massive self-absorption to the point of looking more like a parody on a person than actually looking like a real one. All her acting right down to such aspects as the phraseology and facial expressions she uses (and always did way before her losses) telling a story of a kid in an adult body. And I urge to watch those clips with her mother talking, try to feel the vibe, it's unsettling.
She is so massively delusional, that she wasn't able to recognize the need to use her judo later in the career, and actually believing 100% in how perfect her "boxing" is, it's may be understandable for a spectator, but for the professional fighter herself it's beyond bizarre.
It's all a shame really, because she as a fighter a great and important piece of history of MMA, and the only thing that hold (at this point probably forever will be) from being loved is all this strange out of the blue blaming others for her losses and calling herself a winner in defeat, and all her spite towards everyone who doesn't call her the queen of MMA and not agreeing that a loss is a win in her case. In reality, without all that BS she would have been now easily one of the most beloved and praised retired athletes in this sport.
And also, me, as a judoka, I would like her as much as I like Karo =) But personally I can't like just a mechanism, an athlete in a nutshell, I can surely recognize the achievement, but people worthy of praise are people in the first place, a character, a public persona plus an athlete, all in a bundle.
I wish her to look on all this from a different angle, not that one from she's stuck looking at things. Not sure it's possible for her after living whole life like that. Maybe it'll happen one day and she'll realize all that is obvious for everyone else. Would be neat, really.
Being an athlete wins medals and belts. But to win respect and love and praise a sportsmanship is required, not just athleticism. She lacks in morality and healthy humility, that's the story.
Not judging nor looking down upon her, it's just important to call everything as it is. It's all on the surface, I'm not "investigating", just describing.
That she was so full of herself is even more astonishing because she started in judo, a sport where respect of the sport and the opponent are essential elements. Being respectful doesn't take anything from bravery, but maybe hatred was her engine, she couldn't go without feeling wronged
@@creolespanish34 not that I'm a psychologist nor a psychiatrist, but anyway, on a personal level, I would imagine that in any sport on a level of "high achievement" aka high level competition, many people are prone to be somewhat of an unusual beings. Just by the nature of environment, one (maybe) needs to be a little cray' to be successful on that level and in such harsh of a circumstance.
But, saying that, I personally don't think it's an excuse for being a jerk, in a broad sense.
As for me, she seems to have personality issues (in a strictly psychiatric sense, as in personality disorder, but again, I'm not a psychiatrist, just my opinion). So, her problems might well be based not in her career, but in her life itself. But, who knows, no matter the cause, the way she presents herself is what I'm gonna base my opinion of her on.
Overall, I agree with you 100%
Ronda had two TV personas: ANGRY and ARROGANT. Then when she lost it all, she's like, "Why don't people like me?"
@@Skank_and_Gutterboy seems about right.
Do you remember the face she used to make when she fought her last several fights in the UFC, even prior to the first loss? Like a grumpy toddler, frown brows, gathered lips, beyond dorky, it was unpleasant to watch on a grown lady. Spoke volumes about her, to me personally. She's truly twisted as a person, I struggle to remember one another person in combat sports to remind me of something similar
@@Pootie_Tang
One comment about it that stuck with me, somebody said, "She thinks she looks tough, she looks like Donkey Kong Jr."
I think you mean this look, right? She looks like an idiot: ua-cam.com/video/YIK6ALz3cX0/v-deo.htmlsi=yd5DcEC4KT78cUgY&t=20
Ronda was a marketing bandwagon the whole time and it taught me how easily you can get the average consumer to like things because they think it's popular.
Ronda's mom warned her about Edmund being a toxic character. Her mother told her to stick to the judo base gameplan. The problem is that every time a grappler thinks its a good idea to change their fight menu to boxing, they lose terribly. It happened to Islam Makhachev. The one fight where that crazy ass Javier convinced him to go for striking rather than grappling ended in the single blemish on his MMA record. And Abdulmanap, God rest his soul, warned him it was a bad idea. He warned them all & they didn't listen. Went out there to lose. He could've had a perfect record like Khabib but he abandoned who he really was. Like Ronda. When she abandoned Judo, she forgot who she was & she's been wandering aimlessly ever since.
Makhachev went back to the grappling game plan prescribed to him by Abdulmanap & Khabib right after that loss. Now he's champ. It's good to hone your skills but you never forget what your are & what initiated you into MMA.
Ronda isn't a bad person. My Judo coach was on her Olympic team, believe it or not. Back in 2015 when i first learned Judo, my coach told me about Ronda because i asked. My coach said she was very nice & down to earth. Didn't sound anything like her in her decline. I think it was all that fame got to her head & her coaches didn't push her to be be well rounded while playing to her strengths. When she also got caught up in the fame which took her focus off the sport. If ur a pro-fighter, u have to be breathing, eating, sleeping & living MMA. No other way about it. She should've quit when she started acting. Retired with the belt & then made bank on publicity. In order to snap herself back into reality now, she needs to go to Japan & seek a Judo coach. Only Judo can cleanse & purify her mind & spirit. Judo is who she is & as long as she distances herself from it, she can never find that balance again.
24:15 Mike Tyson says “she’s really doing good stuff” 😂😂😂
Like watching your kid at the park
Good stuff for a woman grappler. I mean she has better striking than Ben Askren.
She was a bully that eventually got took down HARD and never mentally recovered.
Did you really blame her trainer fan boy?
Nobody ever criticized her that you saw because she was an ego monster.
The truth is the Roster was paper thin when she started.
Take any ranked boxer today and send them back to the 19th century, they would be considered the greatest fighter that ever lived.
Do you really think so?
@@ikapatino3214 he's wrong. the reaction time edge between a top 3 boxer to "any ranked boxer" is immense.
Like how many times can you get arm bars before someone figures it out, and/or just kicks you in the face. She is one of the best Judoka’s ever but MMA? She just advanced the sport and the competition.
Honestly she deserves respect. Not everything is an excuse. But excuses are exaggerating.
I agree. She essentially competed as a judo champion against opponents completely inexperienced in judo.
@@andydhillon1977Welp, its mma. She could have become a more well rounded fighter after her losses, but she didn't want to
Idk why people are taught armbars, outside of schools & stuff where you have to be gentle. I was lucky & my mentor was a USMC vet so one of the first things i was taught was how easy it is to get out of one. Granted i never used it in an MMA fight, just against schoolyard bullies & the like
This is was a balanced essay. I really appreciate the last points you made in the end. Her career isn't a failure, she did the damn thing, she opened a lot of doors we also acknowledge her short comings. Thank you.
39:29 OMG she's still fuckin complaining and making excuses.... YEARS AFTER
Trait of a loser
Clone of Hillary Clinton
That's funny considering it's trump who's still whining about Hillary and Hillary hasn't said shit
She started losing because she started facing actual fighters. She basically made the women’s division and the talent pool was lacking hard. Chicks were getting signed just so they can have female fight cards. She was totally outclassed as soon as the real fighters were signed.
That's her trainer's fault, he should never have accepted her to change her style..
Don't ask a fish to wear feathers, or bird to be a fish...
Nurmagomedov left undefeated 29-0 .. Just doing His technique !
No One called him "one pony trick", even if they did, he wouldn't have changed 1 thing, except toughen up on the boxing and standing game..
As for her "bad guy" personna.. it's her own choosing..!
Couldn't even hack in the the fuckin WWE 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Couldn’t take fan backlash of not being that good of a pro wrestler or even improve at being such a
She just didn’t have any respect for it and I think she is right. WWE is a joke. Too bad she ruined her legacy but not just bowing out to the better athletes.
That commenter had it 100% right: she is such a Karen. Beyond that though, I've never seen anyone else who's both such a bad loser and bad winner.
All of the positive things you mentioned at the end of the video are true. It's just too bad HER ATTITUDE RUINS ALL OF THAT.
Zero respect ,zero sympathy for Ronda. She got everything she deserved
Preach.
Imagine being in a “most unlikeable person in the world” contest & you’re up against Ronda Rousey 😳
Damn better luck next year
you better be like...russell brand or something
Jones exists BTW
What proved that Ronda is a good person is when she took responsibility for her fighter not making weight and how serious she took that season
i never fell for the bullshit lol.
I honestly knew mma was headed downhill when women hit the cage. Rhonda was all hype.
She was always rude to cupcake and that messed me up
Her own mother warned her that if she didn't upgrade to a better gym she would never win another fight.
Mother knew best ❤
❤
Even after all this, I hope Ronda is doing ok and she manages to find peace with herself.
Honestly I would love to watch a movie about the post-fight life of someone like Ronda. There’s a lot of interesting stuff there.
She was a sore loser and unbelievably disrespectful/cocky. Her not shaking hands, the way she spoke, etc. was not it. Also, the shot of her punching at 24:15 sent me 😭
Although her striking is trash, she is a world class judo and grappling practitioner.
considering she had no method to take her opponents to the ground other than the hip toss, I feel rather skeptic about that.
@@Halfort57Wym? NO other girls could stop her takedowns for like 3 years. That was the level of "women's mma" at the time. Anyone who (I guess? I'm not claiming I'm a genius here) watches mma sees the girls are STILL not at the level of Men's mma. Her clinch is still legit to half of these girls I see today. SOME of them have learned a better wrestling base which is all the men really have that puts them so far ahead....that and the fact they are Men and women generally are like a 13 yr old boy is to his big 20yr old brother in speed/strength: the kid may surprise his bro when they play but it's all down to his brothers Restraint on how much the kid gets hurt. This is how you spar with women in an mma gym and it sucks and is boring.
@@Halfort57 don't fear the man who has practiced 10,000 moves once or whatever Bruce Lee said. I would argue that if that's her only move, and her opponents knew that as well, and she was still able to land it on them perfectly, that makes it even more impressive
No she isn't lol
Thanks for this insight man.
I'm a former boxing manager and have a real problem with any sport including MMA whose goal is for the fighter to cause a concussion and knock their opponent out. That said, it's really hard to imagine that somebody who achieved a record 12 wins and 2 loses can be considered anything like an all time great. If if a baseball pitcher has one dominating great season and then quits he wouldn't even make a Hall of Fame ballot. No boxer who add just 14 fights would be near that Hall of Fame. Rousey was a good fighter on her very short career, period. Her ego ended her career and ironically saved her brain from the serious damage that sport causes.
I appreciate the focus on your final monologue in this video. Ronda is a human being. It’s that simple. Everyone fucks up, multiple times even. We just don’t do it under the lights of UFC super stardom. She did wrong not giving credit to her opponents. She did wrong shunning her media duties. Ronda carries immense hurt from her family’s past, and with a mixture of yes men and immovable determination she took some wrong turns, ultimately becoming outclassed in the cage by more evolved fighters.
Well said!
Shes an asshole
Well said
If only it would have humbled her
Yup, I somewhat find her relatable because of that. Most of us screw up like that regularly, but we don't do it under the spotlight.
One thing I really did like about Ronda Rousey was that she was a Huge Dragonball fan. She would dress up in clothes like Vegeta which I thought was pretty cool as a big fan myself.
Too bad she only ever became more of a villain while Vegeta showed himself to be a good person underneath his saiyan pride.
Ronda Rousey was a force to be reckoned with in the MMA. Most everyone at that time agreed that Rousey was a phenominal force in the Octagon. Her greatest downfall was her arrogance and her lack of respect for her opponents. The bandwagon fans that embraced her rise to the top were so quick to jump on that same bandwagon when she fell from grace. Her legacy and impacr on the sport will and should never be questioned, but her attitude toward the rwo females that beat her will always be a matter of contention for Rousey and a credible criticism of what she ultimately became as a person and a competitor.
That dude comparing Ronda to Mike Tyson. What an absolute insult to Mike Tyson.
The effort gone into these videos is insane, I can't imagine how difficult it would be balancing the work load of making these videos with everyday life
Thankfully my wife is very understanding 🫡
@@MixedMartialAcademicget a backup channel somewhere. Your'e work is excellent and it would be such a shame if YT decided to censor or even delete your channel.
I know from personal experience how much it sucks having your work memory holed by this weird platform.
So even though your channel isnt political i would recommend a backup on another platform, cause the censorship on this platform is sooo over the top and random sometimes , that I wouldnt trust the platform at all.
Just a friendly tip . 🫡 greetings from Denmark
The most important lesson that any of us could take away from this is don’t go sledding.
Or sled better.
Every Judoka I've ever met was an arrogant bully, I think there's something inherent in the culture of the sport that promotes a horrible attitude.
It makes the women think they're men
@@jeffslist6878 the men were just as bad.
Idk, valentina & harrison seems nice
Even Judo Gene Lebell? From what I've seen, dude was a good man.
Olympic gold medalist,
UFC champion, defended her title multiple times,
She earned respect as an athlete as far as im concerned. That alone is impressive AF, regardless of anything else.
Who else can’t stop watching these Rhonda videos 😂
on God, bro 😂 I can't stop lol
I’ve watched the Holly Holm knock out once per week since it happened 😭
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You’re all sad af. Get a life.
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Imagine being in an org called strike force yet all ur wins are arm bars haha n at that time not many woman did judo or much ground game,they kicked n punched🤷🏾♂️
It's interesting to imagine what a more "Humble Ronda" would have looked like; one that fires her crappy coach and takes the losses in a similar humble fashion to Dominic Cruz losing to Cody Garbrandt. I would think she would have been much more lovingly remembered by fans and had more staying power in the sport overall.
I never thought that a woman could or ever would carry the UFC, but Rousey would and did. Wow what a feat!
I love your conclusion. I do feel sorry for Rhonda. There were was no one in her corner telling that she could be both a fighter and a lady at the same time.