"Greenland is a place that typically doesn't get a lot of attention" well if this isn't the best time to release such a wonderful video ❤ Anyway happy New Year Lugh 🎉
Without wood, the Greenland Norse would not have been able to build ships even to sail back to Iceland let alone Norway. It has been speculated that they escaped into the North American interior but the same problem applies. There was no way off or out of Greenland once the Inuit began a concerted effort to "ethnically cleans" the territory.
@@anulfadventures There is actually one confirmed norse settlement site in north america called l'anse aux meadows, it is in newfoundland. the surrounding area has some pretty thick forests, so im sure in the 12th-15th century there must have been plenty of wood, but whether or not one settlement could provide enough wood for all of the greenland norse i am not sure. also, if the greenland norse had no way to get to there you would be completely right and they would just be stuck hopeless. when the bubonic plague began i would have to guess there was nobody alive or well enough to sail all the way to greenland and back, especially with supplies, because any supplies were already needed by everyone else to survive the bubonic plague and so they just died out exactly like how you said
Short answer: Little Ice Age happened. Maybe if global warming keeps up a bit more, we'll get back to the medieval warm period climate. Back when the vikings were driving their SUVs all over the place.
"Hearing I ask from the holy races, From Heimdall's sons (Humans, different social classes), both high and low; Thou wilt, Valfather (Odin), that well I relate Old tales I remember of men long ago." -Völuspa vers 1. Völva is a pre-Christian female practitioner of Seidr. A type of magic (There where different types of magic) only women was allowed to practice it; if a man did it he was considered feminine. They had high status and some graves have been found for them with their special staff. In the first poem of The Edda Odin speaks to a Völva that tells him ancient wisdom about the creation of the universe.
43:30 Small correction; In 1940 when Germany occupied Denmark the Danish Ambassador to US H. Kaufmann asked and made a deal with US to protect Greenland against German occupation. A doc called "The good traitor" tells the story. Denmark knew, approved and assisted US presence after WWII, it was however kept secret - bc Denmark officially didn't allow nuclear weapons on its territories - until a plane carrying nuclear weapons crashed 1968 (Thule incident) sparkling controversy and warranting a formal approval which was then eventually issued.
Wow , I follow a lot of geopolitics. You are the only person to explain why Trump wants Greenland. I thought it was all about another foothold in the arctic
well the military aspect is part of it but Greenland (and Canada) also have access to the northwest passage. if you throw in panama suddenly the us has complete control of trade around the Americas save for around cape horn and the Russian side of the arctic. a useful advantage for someone planning to start a trade war with the Chinese
Unfortunately it was taken over by Americans, quite literally. Edit: to be clear, we don't know that there were any Inuit people in Greenland at the time that Eirik Raude/Eric the Red and the boys settled it over a thousand years ago. It took a long time (as I recall, quite a few decades if not a couple of hundred years) before they ever encountered Inuits. Probably Inuits inhabited Greenland "off and on" through the centuries, and perhaps they emigrated into Greenland again after the Norse did so. I'm writing this five mins into the video, maybe Lugh will address this specifically, or have another theory. I have this mostly from a book by Helge Ingstad (Norwegian archaeologist who discovered L'anse aux Meadows, the Norse settlement in North America).
Well in the sagas from the 1200s (I think) about Vinland the word skrælingjar is used for Americans. Later it is used for Inuits. Who did the Scandinavians encounter first; the Americans in Vinland or the Inuits in Greenland?
@@alicelund147 They (almost definitely) encountered the ones in Vinland first, around the year 1000 or a few years after. One can even read of a battle between Norsemen and North Americans during one of the earliest explorations after Eiriksson first discovered Vinland, in the Saga of the Greenlanders. Actually the very first exploration after he went there, I think. I can't remember when it's thought that Norsemen first encountered Inuits in Greenland, if it was for instance around 1050, or later.
@@alicelund147 As so often, my reply is hidden......... I should really stop posting comments altogether, this is so tiresome. But you can see it if you click "newest first".
actually the native kalaallit inuit people have their own stories of the norsemen, their word for them being "kavdlunait". If you look that up you will find a source with a few stories from the natives perspective that were eventually written down.
I read about Greenland in Jared Diamonds Book ‘collapse’. One of the problems was that the Norse didn’t take animals which were suitable to the climate. It reminds me of agriculture in Australia. All of the animals which like Australia, we try to exterminate, such as goats, camels, and rabbits. Every year thousands are shot and left to rot. Then we try to farm animals which can’t compete in the environment, such as chicken, pink domestic pigs, or sheep. These animals are propped up with artificial water, the dingo fence, fox baiting, and cereals. Similarly our agricultural crops depend on the luxury of industrial agriculture including fertilisers, and the winter/spring weather systems which depend on significant Antarctic winters. If climate change prevents the winter conditions from developing such as we got a glimpse of this year, then we may not be able to grow European and Mediterranean crops, which would destroy the economy. I’ll be watching the climate as we move forward to see what happens,
There has been stories of red haired non-natives that was in areas like Indiana before the Natives. There was also an alleged story that Roman Gold coins were found in Southern Indiana.
I liked what you said at the end of this being seen as a chapter in the violent history of humanity. It feels bad that the norse on Greenland were probably slaughtered but the violence shouldn't be hiden or blamed on any modern group. Humans were doing what humans often do, fight brutal conflicts and murder each other.
How people have survived in places like greeland and similar places for thousands of year's is insane to me. What made migrants pass through there and say ahh yes this is a good spot to stay. When it comes to the out of Africa theory, these groups of people really confuse me with that theory. In such a short time considering how long "modern humans" have been around, they made it all the way up to these cold areas, adalted and stayed doesn't seem logical.
That's right the Inuit are not native to Greenland, The white Norse,Dane people are native to Greenland and Denmark should re assert their sovereignty over it
@@berserk9085 lol, if you knew me at all you would know that I would never do that. Although I would rather not view us as victims in general, it definitely has happened, and is happening now more than ever before in history. But I would also like to think that they could withstand such an attempt in Greenland. It may be that they migrated further West (Vinland) and didn’t make it there, for instance. Then again it may also be that you’re right. Just saying: we don’t know.
"Greenland is a place that typically doesn't get a lot of attention" well if this isn't the best time to release such a wonderful video ❤
Anyway happy New Year Lugh 🎉
As soon as it first came up I though, this is the time! lol.
@FortressofLugh yeeeah hop on the algorithm right as things are popping, great idea! 🙌👌 hope it gets the views 🙏
The last time I was this early Leaf Erikson hadn't discovered North America yet.
Leaf?! Lol. Leif.
Leif* there you go
2 funny!!! Or was it already occupied?
Without wood, the Greenland Norse would not have been able to build ships even to sail back to Iceland let alone Norway. It has been speculated that they escaped into the North American interior but the same problem applies. There was no way off or out of Greenland once the Inuit began a concerted effort to "ethnically cleans" the territory.
@@anulfadventures There is actually one confirmed norse settlement site in north america called l'anse aux meadows, it is in newfoundland. the surrounding area has some pretty thick forests, so im sure in the 12th-15th century there must have been plenty of wood, but whether or not one settlement could provide enough wood for all of the greenland norse i am not sure. also, if the greenland norse had no way to get to there you would be completely right and they would just be stuck hopeless. when the bubonic plague began i would have to guess there was nobody alive or well enough to sail all the way to greenland and back, especially with supplies, because any supplies were already needed by everyone else to survive the bubonic plague and so they just died out exactly like how you said
The end of the nordic greenlandic settlement gives some horror/mystery vibes.
This channel is great 😌
Thank you
Excellent overview, thanks! Just what I needed to bring me up to date with this suddenly very relevant topic 😊
Go home Yankees
Short answer: Little Ice Age happened. Maybe if global warming keeps up a bit more, we'll get back to the medieval warm period climate. Back when the vikings were driving their SUVs all over the place.
Good work. Excellent History , well given good work
Seriously thank you for this information I knew about the old Nordic period of settlers but I didn't know about the modern information
14:49
I always knew the vulva had some mystical powers, but that's the nordic word for witch?! 🤣
Great video btw!
No, it's not. It's not spelled or pronounced like that and doesn't even mean witch, really. More like a soothsayer.
"Hearing I ask from the holy races,
From Heimdall's sons (Humans, different social classes), both high and low;
Thou wilt, Valfather (Odin), that well I relate
Old tales I remember of men long ago."
-Völuspa vers 1.
Völva is a pre-Christian female practitioner of Seidr. A type of magic (There where different types of magic) only women was allowed to practice it; if a man did it he was considered feminine. They had high status and some graves have been found for them with their special staff. In the first poem of The Edda Odin speaks to a Völva that tells him ancient wisdom about the creation of the universe.
43:30 Small correction; In 1940 when Germany occupied Denmark the Danish Ambassador to US H. Kaufmann asked and made a deal with US to protect Greenland against German occupation. A doc called "The good traitor" tells the story. Denmark knew, approved and assisted US presence after WWII, it was however kept secret - bc Denmark officially didn't allow nuclear weapons on its territories - until a plane carrying nuclear weapons crashed 1968 (Thule incident) sparkling controversy and warranting a formal approval which was then eventually issued.
Wow , I follow a lot of geopolitics. You are the only person to explain why Trump wants Greenland. I thought it was all about another foothold in the arctic
well the military aspect is part of it but Greenland (and Canada) also have access to the northwest passage. if you throw in panama suddenly the us has complete control of trade around the Americas save for around cape horn and the Russian side of the arctic. a useful advantage for someone planning to start a trade war with the Chinese
Unfortunately it was taken over by Americans, quite literally.
Edit: to be clear, we don't know that there were any Inuit people in Greenland at the time that Eirik Raude/Eric the Red and the boys settled it over a thousand years ago. It took a long time (as I recall, quite a few decades if not a couple of hundred years) before they ever encountered Inuits. Probably Inuits inhabited Greenland "off and on" through the centuries, and perhaps they emigrated into Greenland again after the Norse did so.
I'm writing this five mins into the video, maybe Lugh will address this specifically, or have another theory. I have this mostly from a book by Helge Ingstad (Norwegian archaeologist who discovered L'anse aux Meadows, the Norse settlement in North America).
Well in the sagas from the 1200s (I think) about Vinland the word skrælingjar is used for Americans. Later it is used for Inuits. Who did the Scandinavians encounter first; the Americans in Vinland or the Inuits in Greenland?
@@alicelund147 They (almost definitely) encountered the ones in Vinland first, around the year 1000 or a few years after. One can even read of a battle between Norsemen and North Americans during one of the earliest explorations after Eiriksson first discovered Vinland, in the Saga of the Greenlanders. Actually the very first exploration after he went there, I think.
I can't remember when it's thought that Norsemen first encountered Inuits in Greenland, if it was for instance around 1050, or later.
@@alicelund147 As so often, my reply is hidden......... I should really stop posting comments altogether, this is so tiresome. But you can see it if you click "newest first".
@@alicelund147 To try to reply more briefly, it's the first option -- they first encountered them in Vinland.
actually the native kalaallit inuit people have their own stories of the norsemen, their word for them being "kavdlunait". If you look that up you will find a source with a few stories from the natives perspective that were eventually written down.
What did Greenlanders use for Incense in their Church ? How clean was their air in winter when they would pack up.
Beautiful.
I read about Greenland in Jared Diamonds Book ‘collapse’. One of the problems was that the Norse didn’t take animals which were suitable to the climate. It reminds me of agriculture in Australia. All of the animals which like Australia, we try to exterminate, such as goats, camels, and rabbits. Every year thousands are shot and left to rot. Then we try to farm animals which can’t compete in the environment, such as chicken, pink domestic pigs, or sheep. These animals are propped up with artificial water, the dingo fence, fox baiting, and cereals. Similarly our agricultural crops depend on the luxury of industrial agriculture including fertilisers, and the winter/spring weather systems which depend on significant Antarctic winters. If climate change prevents the winter conditions from developing such as we got a glimpse of this year, then we may not be able to grow European and Mediterranean crops, which would destroy the economy. I’ll be watching the climate as we move forward to see what happens,
There has been stories of red haired non-natives that was in areas like Indiana before the Natives. There was also an alleged story that Roman Gold coins were found in Southern Indiana.
I liked what you said at the end of this being seen as a chapter in the violent history of humanity. It feels bad that the norse on Greenland were probably slaughtered but the violence shouldn't be hiden or blamed on any modern group. Humans were doing what humans often do, fight brutal conflicts and murder each other.
nice vid
The old Greenlanders most likely moved to North America and populated the States
How people have survived in places like greeland and similar places for thousands of year's is insane to me. What made migrants pass through there and say ahh yes this is a good spot to stay. When it comes to the out of Africa theory, these groups of people really confuse me with that theory. In such a short time considering how long "modern humans" have been around, they made it all the way up to these cold areas, adalted and stayed doesn't seem logical.
You shouldn't say Russia when you mean the Soviet Union.
To administer "The thing".......
It's clear the Norse were genocided by the skraelings
psst
Well, maybe. It really isn't clear what happened to them.
That's right the Inuit are not native to Greenland,
The white Norse,Dane people are native to Greenland and Denmark should re assert their sovereignty over it
@@Vingul Its glass clear. Dont sugarcoat History when Europeans are the Victims.
@@berserk9085 lol, if you knew me at all you would know that I would never do that. Although I would rather not view us as victims in general, it definitely has happened, and is happening now more than ever before in history. But I would also like to think that they could withstand such an attempt in Greenland. It may be that they migrated further West (Vinland) and didn’t make it there, for instance. Then again it may also be that you’re right. Just saying: we don’t know.
Nuke. Lee. Are. Nuclear. Other than that great video
The Eskimo’s called them walking seals and ate them up.
51st state...
That's what I was going to say
Lame.
Greenland belongs to Denmark and
The norse,dane settlers not the Inuit from Canada
An definitely not Trump ha ha 😂😂
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_people
TOO-lee. Not Thool.