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Thinkpad T460s - My Likes and Dislikes
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- Over one year later I decided to do a little update on the T460s.
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The trackpad stuttering is actually a well-known issue with all T460s, and it’s a driver issue so don’t waste your money on a new trackpad. The solution is quite simple: just disable the trackpoint and the trackpad will work just fine.
HUGE THANKS to you! Man, nobody could tell me that anywhere. I ended up replacing the trackpad anyway because I found a cheap one. Now it's at least not worn anymore.
@@MacintoshMen Glad I could help. It's a shame Lenovo and Synaptics don't seem to address this issue after countless reports on their support forum. Luckily I turn mine into a hackintosh so I don't have to deal with that. What's funny is a driver made for a non-native OS and developed by some random guy actually works 10x better than the native driver developed by Lenovo themselves.
Yeah, that’s really sad. On Linux it works great.
@@MacintoshMen How do you disable the trackpoint?
@@fredericom2650 yeah how?
Your video made me buy a T460 for light uni work and media comsuption. Thank you.
You're welcome. It's great for this use.
The physical mouse keys are useful when you use the track point. You use your thumbs on them while you use the trackpoint or the keyboard. This way you dont have to move your hands away from the keyboard.
If you hold the the middle mouse key down with your thumb you can scroll through a web page or a document with the trackpoint.
I have an older Thinkpad without mousepad and I use the trackpoint instead. :)
Many thanks for letting me know! I now tried it several times and I'm really liking the idea. Might end up using the Trackpoint this way much more!
Thanks for the review. I recently bought one of these and it’s nice to know what to expect.
I'm glad it was useful!
This was the very transparent and honest review I was looking for. I am currently using a T420 and looking for a long-term upgrade, been eyeing the T470s but I think it's not much of a big upgrade than the T460s. In short, I am sold mister.
I'm very glad that it was useful to you. I always try to be honest and tell what I think. I paid my own money for the product, so I'll say what I want. I leave the fancy B-Roll shots with smooth background music-style reviews to all the others.
You wouldn't regret it even in 2021
If I were you, I'd go with the T460. You can hotswap the battery and you have dual ram slots. the T460 has high ram capability than the T460s.
I am so glad to see someone appreciating something they have. Most people nowadays dont appreciate shit anymore.. but anyways.. I just bought the same laptop you have and I truly love it very much. I bought it used for 200 bucks with 16 gigs of ram ( I never had that in my life before ) ! its super fast and super clean. I did however have an issue with the touchpad when I first got it .. it had a generic driver installed.. so I randomly installed a third party driver so I could get all the functions of the touchpad .. but it used to get stuck and would stop working altogether!! I ended up going to the original website of Lenovo and downloaded the proper driver for it.. its working (almost) perfectly .. the only thing I cant figure out is that sometimes when I wanna right click.. I would just touch the pad with two fingers and it would work fine .. other times it wouldnt .. I would have to actually press with two fingers to get it to right click.
I am not complaining here .. not at all .. I am very happy with it ... it does everything I need it to.
Thank you for sharing this.
I'm glad you liked the video; for the touchpad I actually got mine dialed in to work perfectly now; I still replaced the original worn out one with a new one, now it looks even better. I still like this laptop a lot and use it eveywhere I go. I might look into replacing the battery because it is getting a bit weaker now but still not terrible.
Recently picked up a T460s, agree on the display brightness, the 1440p option I have is a bit better in this regard but not by much. Was surprised about just how light it was when I first held it!
In generally I really like this laptop and it's the best I ever had by far. It's really dependable workhorse, I'll take it over one of these fancy modern lifestyle laptops any day. The screen brightness is just a minor thing, but still worth pointing out.
Great review. :)
I just replaced my trusty X220 with a T460s ..i7-6600u 20GB and 970 EVO Plus and have to say that it is much better than I imagined.
You’re right about the display too... but I’ve used the X220 display for 9 years and this is a huuuge upgrade.
I’ve had Thinkpads exclusively for 20 or more years and never been let down. And now I think I need Ubuntu :))
Ubuntu is a great OS on it, it works awesome. I have done some tweaks for myself (e.g. removing that stupid lock screen) and other minor changes, but in general it runs it very fast and I enjoy using it. I am a little bit of a ThinkPad guy myself, I have an entire collection haha (but those are all old IBMs)
Does your laptop have a 360 degrees screen ?
I agree with on the modern keyboards. Sure, they're different. But they're great to type on and that's what really matters to me.
Just purchased my T460s i7-6600, 8GB,256GB,touch screen model for USD $288, wow what a bargain, I've been a Thinkpad fan for some time, but this is the best one I have ever had!!
Wow that is really cheap. Have fun with it!
where you bought it bro? in amazon it costs about 370 $
@@velizm15 I'm located in Melbourne, Australia, it was a guy in St Albans, he had a box of ex Corporate T460S, all the same config, I nearly fell over when I saw the box, if I had the money I would have bought another 2!
Just got myself an T460s, with 20gb ram, i7, and 512gb ssd. Hope it‘s worth the investment got it for 450€
Wow that's a beast, I think you made a pretty good deal there.
Does it still work good until now cause I found one too
Good choice
thanks for the review!
i actually just ordered one of these. i've been wanting to learn how to use linux for ages and have heard that these are awesome for it.
gonna be installing fedora [based on ubuntu] on it! pretty stoked. i got one with an i7 for around $200 and it feels like a steal. they actually look pretty sleek too.
Have fun with it; I think 200$ is a really good deal for a i7 model.
I've always enjoyed these laptops, I've used the x230 for a while and still to this day think it's usable. Just grabbed myself a T460s!
@@mordaeu1411 the T460s is finally arriving tomorrow, i am pretty stoked!
@@justh0dl Awesome! I'll be getting mine probably next week!
About the sound, and if it is not about your taste, make sure you don't have on any effects. I recently bought this wonderful notebook (with touch screen) and i had a few issues with the sound. In the beginning, i believed the speakers were problematic but then it hit me and i open the sound card options. I found that some echo and other effects were on. Since i turn them off the sound was back to normal! Also the speakers are loud enough in my opinion!
Also, just in case, something else that i had issue with was the bluetooth. Device manager couldn't find the hardware! Even when i run the test on Lenovo website the result was that my notebook doesn't support bluetooth. After some search i found that there is an option in bios that activates your bluetooth hardware.
im typing this out on my regular t460. Its my favorite laptop. I have a slightly newer x1 carbon from 2018 and i prefer the t460. I even have it set up kind of like its docked but i dont have the dock lol. i just plug in all the cords
I also always liked this machine. I now moved on to a T14 G1 because I needed more power but the T460s is still a great and capable machine. Much better value than some new laptops whose plastics are so cheap, they fall apart in under a year.
I've got an X260, i7, 16GB, 512GB SSD, 1080p Screen, I agree on the disappointing brightness. Battery life is decent (X260 has dual hot swappable batteries). I find the CPU a little underpowered, I think it is a Windows 10 thing though, I've found dual core CPUs don't handle Windows 10 quite as well as they used to.
I can understand your point, Windows has gotten so very bloated in the last years; it's actually a good idea to "declutter" it. However, since I hardly ever use Windows on mine, I can't really say much about it's performance. On Ubuntu it flies and feels very fast.
Love the Linux perspective
i have a X1 Carbon and a X240 i love them both. built like a tank and super reliable.
I still use the T460s - if i were to replace, is the X1 Carbon the one you'd recommend to upgrade to or a more modern equivalent?
Middle trackpad button is for scrolling while using trackpoint
i am looking for one for programming
i found it with 20gb ram and 256gb ssd, should i go for it?
I have a ThinkPad in my pocket right now. 😊
honesty enhance the functions. thank you very much for a great review :_:
Thanks! I'm always honest in my videos.
@@MacintoshMen i know your honest. and by that. it's more easy to use what ever you review. without hoping guessing or wishing. down to the nitty gritty :_:
Great review mate, I'm thinking to purchase one, it's i7-6th, yours looks great, is it i7 or i5?
Mine is a core i5 model. Does all my stuff with ease. Yours with i7 should be very quick
@@MacintoshMen what's the cost of core i7
Nice video! but i have a question: is the keyboard backlit?
yes my 460s has a backlit keyboard, with 2 levels of lighting
Love the review!
Thanks!
disable trackpoint will solve your trackpad problem
The keyboard is a dream alright. I tried a dual boot Windows 10 / Ubuntu mate and found the performance lacking. Mind you it was better on Ubuntu than windows. I upped the ram to 16GB and still didn't find it that great. Maybe an SSD upgrade would've done the trick. What use cases do you have for your machine?
I use it mostly on Ubuntu (around 85% of time) and there it feels quite a bit snappier than on Windows 10, but I think it's still pretty good there too. I use it mostly for university work and to do simple stuff while I'm on the go (some coding, office work, google docs etc). Nothing heavy or intense, for me it works out really well.
@@MacintoshMen Yeah I'm debating if I should hang onto it and try out an SSD but just felt a big sluggish for me.
@@FWIKNOW SSD on slow computers are always first option. Ram doesn't make too much of a difference unless doing intensive work e.g video editing.
@@FWIKNOW ssds cost only 30 usd
@@jamo8896 yeah fair point I tried out more RAM and didn't really feel like much of anything. I've decided to sell that laptop now. I bought a Lenovo Legion 5. I did get an extra M.2 drive before Christmas but I can see that the price has dropped for it since I bought it.
"Almost every projector you will come across will have HDMI." I don't know, I've seen a whole bunch with just analog inputs(including VGA), so if I needed to project stuff often, I'd be looking for a laptop with both VGA & HDMI(& for monitors, I'd be looking for VGA & maybe DVI).
Yes, that's true, there are still many with VGA too
Hi, I know this video is a little old but I still want to ask which one is good to buy t460s or t470s?
I bought a pre-owned T470s a few weeks ago in pristine condition for $175 and absolutely love it! It's basically my road notebook, with my T430s as my home computer.
The 470s has the i5 6300U, 20 gb of RAM and a 256 NVMe SSD. It's really fast. That said, I'm not a gamer, but is fast for Photoshop and video editing. I wanted the T470s for battery life, something that my T430s lacks.
My cousin has had the T430 i5 for almost 9 years, connected to the dock, and he runs it 14 hours a day without any issues. What a beast!
I can't own anything but a ThinkPad because of the TrackPoint mouse. There's nothing like it. I know people with ThinkPads who never use it, not investing the 2 hours of learning curve.
Back to the T470s...it came with 8gb of RAM and I did the 16 gb upgrade when Crucial had it on sale for $58. Frankly, I haven't noticed a difference between the current 20 gb and 8 gb.
I've always coveted the X1 Carbon but couldn't justify the price. Then I came upon the almost-as-thin T470s, which weighs 2.9 pounds vs the X1 Carbon's 2.4 pounds. The T460s is the same form factor as the T470s, so it's an either/or scenario.
That's a huge help mate I was just looking for someone to talk about that laptop thanks and I see that you used sublime text are you coding if yes could you tell me if it works for general programming really good and with Ubuntu cause I use it too
Hi, it works wonderful for programming, Ubuntu also runs much better than Windows in my opinion.
@@MacintoshMen I really appreciate your answer thanks a lot
Brother, i'm planning to buy one with i5 6th gen, 8gb 256gb ssd next month. I'm planning to run latest Ubuntu on it as i want to learn IT things. How's the battery backup on Ubuntu and windows can you please let me know?
It's a little worse on Ubuntu than on Windows from my experience (The new Ubuntu 22.04 LTS release is supposed to have better battery life, but I can't confirm yet). I average around 4 hours on heavy usage, but all the way to 8 hours on light/occasional use. Also my battery is worn (a couple of years old) and I bought it used, so I can't exactly say how much it's supposed to have.
@@MacintoshMen and is the display bright enough?
@@asadturzo2325 Yeah I'd say it is bright enough.
Which is better I'm looking to get one for school, Dell Latitude E5570 or Lenovo ThinkPad T460S
Both pretty good machines. I can say from experience the T460s can endure a lot. I just came back from a trip where I carried it along with me in a plane cabin luggage where the laptop got thrown around and beat on quite a bit with the other stuff. But no single scratch, nothing. Really good quality.
@@MacintoshMen ok cool ,thanks alot 👍
@@MacintoshMen so where can I buy what you have there ,I'm trying but only bids or what you think is best , refurbished or used
@@naecoreflet7450 Refurbished is always a good option since some offer a warranty, but also on such a device going used is also not a mistake
Sir, I am thinking to buy it. I will not use in outdoors but can I use it in indoors, is the display good for indoors, is it bright enough so that it doesn't cause any problem seeing screen ? Please reply soon.
For indoors it is plenty bright. You won't have any issues there.
Thanx for sharing....Planning on getting one of these soon. will use wireless mouse to get past by trackpad issue?
It's actually not an issue anymore, I just had to tweak some trackpad settings in Windows and the problem was gone. I just can't remember what it was anymore. But pretty simple; I just didn't know about it for a long time.
I'm using this as a work/gaming laptop, would it preform well for valorant
I don't know anything about games but I wouldn't use it for games because it has only integrated HD graphics.
Will T460S support second SSD in WWAN slot?
I guess not but I can't say for sure.
Hello All I had a T450s Loved it so much super nice in all senses ,, even if is from 2015 was stolen and dont know how hurt ,, and now might buy a T450s or T560s not sure which one Can anybody Help me Please ...l.....
I think T560S is a good choice if you liked the T450s. A 460s is also still good but they are getting a bit older now and if you want native Win11 Support you are out of luck.
@@MacintoshMen Good for you if like big laptops ,,, enjoy ...what matters is to have a good one for what you do and work and in what, if you want one "with latest Win, graph, SSD etc etc"so basically what you want to show off to others ,,, that is your thing then get a yoga or alike ,,, and about tech gets old before start selling, and after a extremely short time "buy the new model"then enjoy it
Hello pls will this laptop run revit or autocad
screen is rubbish , i cant figure out the top 3 buttond in the trackpad, battery life is 2h or so, doing nothing
were you able to use fingerprint sensor in ubuntu?
I'm looking to get one of these. I am a CS student and I'm wondering how well these work for programming, and running things like vscode, android studios etc?
As long as you don't do some demanding stuff it should do it with ease. Great machine for CS students in my opinion.
@@MacintoshMen Thanks, still not sure if I'll go with the T460s or a T470s for a few dollars more. Though the specs sound almost the same.
As far as I know, the T470s has just one generation newer CPUs. It's harly faster but it might support Windows 11 natively.
@@MacintoshMen the t460s im looking at the seller installed windows 11. I'm worried if it runs smoothly, but its fine because I was going to put Ubuntu on it anyway.
I'm drawn to the t series because of their upgradability even though theyre "old" hardware.
how many ram slot dose it have???
dose it support m.2 nvme ssd???
and in bangladeah t460s i7 cost almost 500 usd. dose it a good deal????
It has one RAM slot, the other RAM is soldered to the motherboard. And yes, it has nvme SSD. I'd say though 500 usd is a bit expensive
How does this compare to the T560 and 1st-Gen X1 Yoga?
Sorry, I have no experience with any of those
I don't really know if I can live with dual cores only. I have one nearby to me for 270€ i7-6600u, 20GB ram
I understand your concern, it really depens what you are doing with it. In my case, Dual Core is just fine, but if it was my primary sytem it would be too slow (there I have a Quad core and it is already pushing it a bit).
@@MacintoshMen Yeah i am currently trying to hunt for used Dell Latitude 7490s or a T480 in a fairly ok condition. But it is hard to find those in Germany in a higher quantity in comparison to the USA etc.
Plus people really list the T480/s overpriced on eBay etc. I see prices where I could easily buy myself a budget premium notebook new or a Dell XPS 13 9370 with the same specs but more premium built quality and Infinity Edge Display.
Schöne Wallpaper in Windows, wo bekommt man die her?
Ich denke ich habe da nach "vaporwave wallpaper" gesucht.
You'd love Linux mint try it off a USB. I'm actively hunting for one of these on ebay.
I used Linux Mint years ago and I liked it, however now I'm very happy with Ubuntu. I still like Mint though.
Can you please tell me if it's better than dell latitude 7470
In my opinion it is better because the Latitude 7000s have a cooling flaw.
Can I use it for programming
Absolutely! It works good for this.
how does it do with video editing? and maybe some casual gaming?
It can handle video editing just fine as long as you don't do some fancy effects or so but I would not game on it. It only has Intel integrated graphics, those won't work great with modern games.
Hello, does this laptop handle basic web browsing smoothly?(on windows)
Webbrowsing is absolutely smooth, no problem at all. I also work a lot in Google Docs and it performs flawless.
yes and know that at the end will buy both
and a x270
is this good for zoom call meetings?
Easily good enough
Can I add extra HDD in this Laptop?
no
is T460s better than T560.
Pretty much the same computer, except for weight and dimensions.
does anyone here noticed that his T460s has a replacement keyboard on it?
Yeah that could very well be. I bought it refurbished and I think they fitted a different keyboard because of the keyboard layout (in my case German). Often those laptops come from different countries.
ps: i hope you will upgrade it in a future video :_:
That would be a great video however I don't know what I should upgrade, it is already fast enough for me. Maybe if I replace the trackpad in it, I will make a video.
@@MacintoshMen max ram. cpu. gpu. :_:
Would windows 11 run well on this?
It's not officially supported. I ran Win11 on it anyway and it ran OK. Not super great, not slow either. I went back to Win10 because it felt a tad faster than on Win11 (and I also didn't like some changes, first and foremost the stupid new context menu with half the stuff missing).
Yes, it's work 100% perfect. i use T460s with Windows 11 Pri activated.
Use a Rufus to create USB Installer and disable Windows 11 processor minimal requirement.
your accent sounds a little bit german.
Am i right ?
It os only a bit in combination with an usa accent.
And it is your first language now with perfect grammer.
But there is this little zzz ts you know.
Irish accent has the german influence but we can hear you live in us.
Maybe us cititen say,of course german accent.
I'm actually from Austria, so my native language is German. I've never been to the US (would like to visit though some day). I learned my English mostly by listening to American movies/youtubers/shows, you name it. So that's why I tend to speak more the American English.
Ubuntu instead of Fedora, cringe...
And why is Fedora so much better? Just another typical "my distro is better" comment.
Hi does this have a backlit keyboard?
No, it doesn't