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bro....i know people, very sporaticly joke about this...but...the " jumbled, nonlogical " shows have increased dramticly over the last 5 yrs...theres a extremely good explanation for this. AI SCRIPTS
While it’s conceivable that bad quality products can be sincere mistakes… examples of “bad marketing” actually seem to be intentional propaganda and norm-setting. The point of shoving things down our throats isn’t to make us like it, but tolerate it, you know? It’s pretty much a blessing to become contented to spend my time enjoying the good things. When McDonalds got expensive? Well I was already off it for years, but why not find more joy in the books and games instead of the attention-extracting, mind-numbing social media? So that’s my next goal, weaning off of youtube more and more. For now, I just watch the good creators.
I felt the same way when I watched The Witcher, I was so angry that I wrote a huge text with my complaints to make me feel better. I edited it a little bit and left it as a review on different sites. Netflix's witcher series is a total piece of shit.
The moment they fired an actual Tolkien Expert and Scholar because he called out the poor direction with the writing, because of their inflated egos and bias portrayal of their view of Tolkien's work. . . that was the immediate indication that this show was going to fail.
“ even the mightiest of men can be felled by a single arrow, boromir was pierced by many” “ SO WHAT PIPPIN THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE SHOT BY LIKE SEVEN! WHY IS MY SON DEAD!!” - Denethor probably
My wife does not care one bit for Lord of The Rings, she has never read the books and only watched the films with me out of curiosity after Rings of Power dropped. In theory she should be the ideal viewer for Amazon, no knowledge of LOTR at all so she can judge it solely on its own merits. She watched the first two episodes and thought they were awful, fact is if you take away the books and films this is just a bad TV series regardless of the rest of LOTR, add all that history and lore then it becomes horrendous.
I think this is really what makes this show so bad. There are plenty of shows/movies where the target audience is exclusively those who have read the source material, and a LOT that are exclusively for a new audience that has never read the source material. Dune for example. I cannot fathom how anyone thinks they're are more than 'meh ok I guess' but people who love dune love the movies. This show does neither of those things. Nobody likes it. Similar to the Acolyte, or the Halo show.
My girlfriend got curious about it when it first launched in 2022. Even though I refused to watch it, she watched the first few episodes on her own. That night, she asked me flat out "is it supposed to be a parody....?" She literally didn't know if it was a normal show or something closer to Monty Python. Her answers when I asked her why she thought it was a parody were hilarious. Everything from Galadriel thinking she could swim across the ocean to Suaron being a love interest, to Galadriel killing a troll single handedly. But most of all, it was the writing. She absolutely thought they were making fun of Tolkien's writing style (such as the line about why a rock sinks). I married her.
@@1_underthesun Congratulations. Anyway yeah, the writings (dialogue, character, lore etc) seems trying to emulate Tolkien's style but fall short; shallow, felt lazy and bordering on parody. Showrunners seemingly trying to rewrite Tolkien's core philosophy while keeping the style, but they failed on both account. For example, I can understand why they want to make Orcs sympathetic, but the way they portray it just bad. Like one scene shows an orc as "concerned citizen" who only want peace for his mate and offspring, but in another scene they shown to be bloodthirsty monster who attack human without remorse, inconsistent
I'm sure your wife, in particular, is the target audience.... It's fantasy fiction fans who aren't butthurt babies over a change from the source material. It's a great show, sorry all of you negative people don't see it.
The most absurd thing about the Boromir rip off scene is that she was peppered with multiple arrows from multiple sides at the same time, implying that she was the target...but then all these archers that were crack-shots and co-ordinated just stopped shooting her when she took an age to aim her fire arrow...why??? Why did they just nail her that one volly even though they were targeting her, then leave?
Also, wouldn't having arrows in both shoulders and at least one torso make it harder to fire a bow effectively? Nerve damage and torn muscles do inhibit movement. Pulling that weirdly angled arrow from your own right shoulder with your right arm seems implausible (especially with that extra arrow in the right torso) since having a shoulder injury affects your arm's range of motion. It would also be easier to grab that arrow with your left hand anyway regardless of injury. With the teleporting leg arrows, I'm not even sure she could stand after those, or even put weight on that leg. Being hit by six attacks that would be debilitating or fatal with little impact or consequence is definitely a subconscious turn-off because it's using video game logic rather than real world logic.
If this wasn't a "Lord of the Rings" series then nobody would even know about it. This looks exactly like some random fantasy slob you find on a streaming service.
If you mean that Boromir knockoff lady *whos name I cannot now remember* I doubt she could do it AT ALL. As a matter of fact I will say it is physically impossible for someone of her physique to charge a medieval archery bow ever, under any context.
But they needed to win the oppression Olympics. It's not about making a believable scene. They just needed to one up Boromir because they think it's a contest. More arrows = better. In the end the scene made no sense but that's their logic
This kind of modern media literally has less than no value. It is a negative integer. The people making it do it at a financial loss (net negative revenue generated). The IPs they tack-on additions to *lose* long term fans, with vanishingly small gains in return (net negative engagement). The entries to the franchises that people *did* like are tarnished by association to the tack-ons (net negative artistry). And literally every aspect of of each tack-on is cliche and dated on arrival (net negative creativity). ...Oh! And people literally won't even pirate it for free (net negative value as a commodity).
@@Gehrich_ nope i dont see that happening....ie ill ask u at the start to go on a date with me...ull refuse but ill keep pushing untill we r maried then ill have my way with u...n based apon ur logic u will have to accept.
Ring of power is basically the gollum video game in tv format and this is being mean to gollum. I think this is actually a scam or money laundering operation.
Money laundering happens wherever the woke are employed. They hire their friends, do nothing, then share company money amongst themselves. They're leeches.
The showrunners are like those early tourists who carved their initials into monuments like the great pyramids or the Colosseum. Lesser people whose works can never measure up to what they're defacing, trying to somehow attach their name to something they have no business altering. Except in the case of this show, it's not just that they're vandalizing superior works by people far more talented than themselves, it's that they seem to resent and want to destroy it; like it's very existence makes them feel inadequate.
Precisely how I feel about it, it their world of ashes and shadows, they can't stand the massive beacon of hope, and light in the darkness, that is Tolkien's masterpiece.
- Oh we do actually. But they are not ment to burn down a ravager you see. They are more for small useless crowd control in the middle of the battlefield ^^ - ahhh. Well dang
On the elf girl being shot by arrows scene - I would say it takes an expert movie watcher to notice all the arrows placements continuity in first watchthrough. But something that immediately stands out to break immersion, she is the point of interest for multiple enemies shooting from different angles, but suddenly she's allowed to just stand up, line up a burning arrow and shoot, she's now in no enemy's interest. The sense of urgency is immediately lost, the brain immediately questions, that doesn't make a lot of sense. The events are not grounded, neither is the lore, character motivations, emotions, nothing. You can just feel this feeling that says that's not a very convincing sequence of events, and the movie wall breaks and you can't help feeling okay, now that just happened because the director told the actors and prop masters to behave and put things in certain way and manner. Point being breakage of immersion. People saying this is a good show, they should be taken anti-seriously. I haven't watched the show, but just watching the clips from coverage in yt, I need no explaining that the show is horrendous in all fronts.
@@goodputin4324 Is that really your main problem? You just watched a critique of RoP that carefully avoids fulfilling the "raging racist fanboy" stereotype and this is all you can come up with?
@privateprivacy5570 Idk, mabye he actually cares about the lore? Did that go through your tiny brain? Nothing racist about wanting an elf to be an elf.
@@privateprivacy5570 In Appendix F of The Return of the King, he explicitly describes Elves as "fair of skin": Elves has been used to translate both Quendi, ‘the speakers’, the High-elven name of all their kind, and Eldar, the name of the Three Kindreds that sought for the Undying Realm and came there at the beginning of Days (save the Sindar only). This old word was indeed the only one available, and was once fitted to apply to such memories of this people as Men preserved, or to the makings of Men’s minds not wholly dissimilar. But it has been diminished, and to many it may now suggest fancies either pretty or silly, as unlike to the Quendi of old as are butterflies to the swift falcon - not that any of the Quendi ever possessed wings of the body, as unnatural to them as to Men. They were a race high and beautiful, the older Children of the world, and among them the Eldar were as kings, who now are gone: the People of the Great Journey, the People of the Stars. They were tall, fair of skin and grey-eyed, though their locks were dark, save in the golden house of Finarfin; and their voices had more melodies than any mortal voice that now is heard. They were valiant, but the history of those that returned to Middle-earth in exile was grievous; and though it was in far-off days crossed by the fate of the Fathers, their fate is not that of Men. Their dominion passed long ago, and they dwell now beyond the circles of the world, and do not return.
I had read Tolkien's Lord of the Rings when I was younger and enjoyed it. But when I was in my 20s I went on a missions trip to Ireland for a summer and everything went to hell. It was awful. I was isolated with no way home and being seriously gaslighted. However the under leader was newly married and he and his wife wanted to go on a bit of a honey moon and asked me to watch their cat. (I had pet sitting skillz and my own little company at home doing just that. So suddenly I had a retreat from the horror of everything. And on the shelf in their tiny manse apartment was a copy of The Fellowship of the Ring. I decided to reread it as a comfort thing. I am not exaggerating that my soul gasped as I began to read it again. It was as if my self had been slowly dying of thirst and Professor Tolkien just gave me a cantine of water. I followed Fellowship with Two Towers and then Return of the King. It gave me back my heart. It helped me set my teeth and press into the foul atmosphere. It gave me hope. What I hate the most about Rings of Power is that it takes all the life giving power out of his work and makes it into a fast food rot your teeth knock off.
What the former Bad Robot writers did to Lord of the Rings is exactly what JJ Abrams and Kurtzman did to Star Trek. The "plot" is a series of coincidences with no respect for the established characters or the notions of time and distance in a story.
As a long time Trekkie, the reboots were not perfect by any means, but they tried. They were actively trying and had echoes of the original series which was my favorite. They made it a bit more fast paced than I would have liked and I have plenty of issues but they weren't malicious in their attempt. Comparing it to the abomination that is the Rings of Prime is lessening what these folks are doing to Tolkien's work I feel. It's a crime that is better likened to Dr. Who.
I've seen people argue that "you can't compare it to the original films." My response was "eating out of a trash can is great as long as you don't compare it to eating a home-cooked meal."
And the worst part is they'll say that you're "weird" for caring about this. But it's perfectly okay to care about it, especially if you love the source material. Apathy will only serve the arrogant and incompetent and malicious. Don't let them gaslight you
I feel you pal. This series doesn't only score for being the most expensive series ever. It's also setting a record for stacking up the most reasons to rub me the wrong way. What a train wreck.
Lord of the Rings is my favorite trilogy! I will never watch Ring of Power. I believe they are mocking what Tolkien has made. My mind will never be changed.
I could not finish season 1. I sensed it was a joke from the start. I could not believe how bad it looked, how awful the direction was, given the budget. The amount of jumping around was disastrous for me. Place after place after place after place and everything seemed so..... inconsequential. It's like they were trying to fabricate excitement, "omg look this place no one knows about!" They didn't earn any of it.
I'm not sure if you like video recommendations, but there's a really interesting video called, "Why in the world did the rings of power cost a billion dollars?" by Ross Macfarlane (on youtube). He takes a much more "meta" approach to the show. Rather than talking about the show itself, he talks about how and WHY it was created. Why are there no big name actors, why do the show writers have literally no writing credentials, why does it feel like a fan fic, etc. A big point is that Amazon apparently considers the show a massive success. Again, not sure if you appreciate advertising other content creators, but this video brings up some really really good points and really helps frame some of the baffling decision making for the show.
In the castle top scene they should have the exposition elfs turning around and accidentally knocking over the ladders, lighting orcs on fire with torches, etc. Just turn it into the Middle Earth version of Naked Gun at this point.
@@bruce-le-smith "We need to get rid of those MFing orcs from our hood!" Samuel L Jackson could also bring comedic value to this version with his "Im tired of those MFing orcs" 😂😂😂
It's almost more of a travesty because that series had the potential to rivial Jacksons LOTR and GOT. However they murdered it before it could even begine properly. ....don't worry though, that showrunner is now heading up the new God Of War series *facepalm*
LOTR was in planning and development for years before it even began filming. It's half the reason it turned out so well. Mad Max Fury Road also benefited from over a decade of planning from its development hell. Time makes a good artistic product, simple as that. You need passion and love, and respect for the original context and author of the work
Peter Jackson and the crew had 6 YEARS before the cameras started to record scenes. They had almost everything prepared for the trilogy to be filmed. I doubt that many moviemakers would receive so much time nowadays. Especially when the original Trilogy crew didn't want to put their politics into movies. Unlike many showrunners/moviemakers nowadays who are unable to create their own universe, they take the established one so they can destroy it with their lack of skills.
10:47 And as someone experiencing an inflammation in my shoulder at the moment, no you’re not lifting your arm of your shoulder is hit. No amount of grit will make you strong enough to do that with a foreign object inside of your shoulder.
"take the shot, then boom. can you see the arrow?" no, no i can't. i'm so fed up with these garbage night shots, like i literally can't see anything can we get night shots where the actually have lighting so i can see what they are trying to show me?
I just don't understand how a series, which cost more than the original trilogy adjusted for inflation, has worse writing and so much less effort put into it. We're lucky that trilogy exists to begin with.
The companies want to make more money but they've gotten to the point they can't sustain but keep trying. It's like wanting to poo more so you have some laxatives but then want to more. That's those companies. Overdosing on laxatives crapping everywhere.
I hate to say it and I can’t prove it, but the writing room is probably based more on gender, sexuality and identity than talent, expertise and passion. It seems to be a reoccurring theme with these bad shows.
My sincere condolences to you and the fans of TLOTRs. I never knew after the world went after Ghostbusters, that they would go after other series like this.
@@Sukenus say what you will, but Prime’s numbers have gone up. Is it because of RoP? Not necessarily, but its existence always keeps Amazon well into your mind and that’s all that matters.
They are prepping us for a bunch of ultra low effort Ai generated garbage. If the human writing, acting, continuity, story telling, etc etc etc etc is so bad it might as well be Ai generated, it will be easier to switch to Ai generated content. They can pay one director, and one editor (maybe) to generate a bunch of random scenes that are vaguely related, get an Ai generated story that almost makes sense, and then sit and slap it together in a couple months. Then amazon gets to hype the fuck out of it and try to sell their service with a bunch of garbage that is only slightly worse than what already exists. Honestly it might already be happening. Some of the recent stuff from Disney and Amazon, Netflix and Hollywood seriously make me wonder if the writing was done almost entirely by ChatGPT. If you go into ChatGPT right now, and ask it to generate "the most generic stereotypical, safe, cliche, boring, an inoffensive minecraft movie based on the 2nd Jumanji movie", you will get almost exactly what everyone expects the plot of that movie to be.
That actually makes sense. Besides the woke ESG garbage the writing and storytelling itself has gotten so sloppy over the past decade or so, AI might actually be able to write slop on par with (or even better) than what they've been trying to feed us with.
That's a pretty crazy theory. A bit too crazy IMO. Personally, I'm chalking this up to a competency crisis. Where a lot of people and their fancy, worthless education have too much of an ego, and clearly no actual clue on what they're doing. Shit like diversity quotas, esg, and if I may be so frank... just women in general. All of this bullshit being promoted over just simply hiring actually qualified people for the job. This shit has been pushed for years in both education and employment. Now the shit is starting to bear fruit, and it's fucking awful.
When Cable/HBO became an option back in 1980's, most of us were so used to commercials which we used to get a drink/use lavatory/etc. that we'd often fall asleep on the couch. Even between movies was only a static list of movies scheduled for the next 12 hours or so. No Commercials. That didn't last long. I F'in hate advertisers because of 'professional' marketing. They have to get into everything like cockroaches.
Even worse.. at 18:00'ish, it is NOT "Orcs jumping in.."... it is "AN Orc jumping.:." ... one... ONE! 1. Bah humbug! Also: From ep1... Galadriel standing and take a full face shot ofa pyroclastic flow, moving with perhaps 400km/h and with 100-500 degree hot ahes.. and escape completely unscated, besides from looking like a cheep pop or chips. This really ought to have killed the series for everybody! Thanks for a great video. Well done.
Amazed he even watched season 1; the writing was on the wall before the show ever aired, for those who are now accustomed to seeing their favourite IPs destroyed.
@3:51, When the CIA guy fires his pistol, the receiver does not cycle. No shell casing is ejected. Yet the weapon is heard discharging (in the original video).
That is a common Hollywood thing. I forgive mostly because in the context of that scene, you have no choice even a blank gun fired that close could injure or kill someone so they used either a non-firing replica or a real gun that was given an empty magazine and added the gunshot sound in post. That is how you avoid an Alec Baldwin.
I try not to watch the Nolan films too often because if my mind wanders from what he WANTS me to look at, then I begin to see cracks in his film design like Spielberg whose magic is about not having time to think.
@@terrylandess6072 Except as something who thinks often Nolan films don't have those cracks. Anyone who pays attention and thinks a bit longer can see the answers.
Another massive continuity error Shad mentioned. Eregion had NO wall in season 1. They just instantly poofed a huge wall around the whole city because they wanted to make Eregion's Deep.
I'm kinda impressed you could see those teleporting arrows, that was a _really_ dimly lit scene. Probably why they thought they could get away with it. As for the Helm's Deep ripoff...Speaking is a Free Action, apparently. That's why they can have everything stand still while they expo-diarrhea all over the screen. That's no excuse for crappy writing/directing/editing, but it's the only thing that makes sense. It's a badly run DnD campaign where the DM keeps letting the players BS the rules and get into long conversations when time--in game--is of the essence.
This was unexpected. As a tolkien fan since I could walk it is a welcome one. Great video. Glad to see you branch out to things you're enjoying (or not in this situation).
You should watch a the little platoon and random film talk videos on it. Awesome videos. Boromir’s arc is the best of the series. Let’s not forget the volcano to the face.
my sister is law is one of the normies that amazon targets. She thinks the show is cool but when i ask her the next day about the show she goes blank and cannot remember specifics of the episode. To her, it was just an hour where she just go blank and be " entertained" by the cool scenes and stuff even tho she does not understand or remember anything about what she was watching.
That's part of reason I dropped Marvel. I'd watch a movie and go, "Yeah that was good. Don't know why people are complaining." only to realize the next day that I remember nothing about the movie.
The Booty Bots™️ must really love the rings of power enough to comment half a second after the video drops. Anyway enough about those bot bozos, I was just having a discussion with a friend about this show an hour ago and I told them that I won't even watch this garbage (same with the Wheel of Time abomination, insane how they had SO MUCH source material and yet they fucked it up from episode one)
One thing I noticed about Boromir is how his fighting style changes once he gets shot. It's aggressive and uncoordinated, the style you'd expect for someone who'se life is being barely held together with adrenaline and rage. And you can see how he's on the verge of collapsing after each herculean effort. This Elf on the other hand seems cold and clinical, like the arrows aren't even there a few seconds after she was shot with them (which thanks to sloppy continuity they aren't!). I don't know what happens afterwards, but I imagine she just collapses suddenly, as if she just remembers there are five arrows in her body.
Yep. Another example of how more realistic the original films are, despite being fantasy films was Aragorn’s fight with Lurtz (the lead Uruk-Hai who killed Boromir) occurred. A lot of the blows he hands on Aragorn are real. The actor was actually hitting Vigo Morton in that scene.
As a long time LoTR fan it pleases me so much to see so many other fans rising to defend it. Thank you for calling it bad and not giving people the option to say it's anything else. I love the stupid Sharknado movies because they're absolutely awful and cringe and I enjoy laughing and mocking it. Doesn't mean it's good and I'd never fight anyone on that. Anyone who thinks Rings of Prime is good needs to admit the same thing. It's just garbage, the end.
The arrows hitting the female elf scene felt like ben stiller in tropic thunder getting sh*t multiple times but still has the energy to jump up and tap the grenade out of its trajectory.
I love how when I search for this scene from season 2 episode 7, youtube first doesn't find it and second, suggests to me to watch Boromir's final stand scene. Ok 👌... :D
When I was probably 13 or 14 years old, I wrote some LoTR fan fiction. I found it a year or two ago in some of my moms old stuff and I read through it. I recall, at the time of writing it, I was super proud of what I had written, I thought it was great. Reading through it now, it was complete trash(but I was 14, and this was the time before google so I was working with what I had). Main problem with what I had written was I didn't know what to do with characters other than to make them do things to get me from point A in the narrative, to point B. There was no consistency in their personality or motivations, I needed "thing" to happen and so characters would do whatever was required to make "thing" occur. Rings of Power feels exactly like my terrible 14 year old fan fiction. However, as a life long Tolkien nut, the garbage I wrote back then was more lore accurate by leaps and bounds than anything in Amazons trash heap of a series. Even at 14 I would have realized how stupid it was that my catapults could bring down a mountain, but couldn't blow up a wall in Eregion? I also portrayed the Elves as magical, enigmatic beings, not the pointy eared human retards like Amazon did. When Haldir showed up to Helms Deep to aid Aragorn and Rohan, it was EPIC. You felt like now they had a fighting chance. The elves were disciplined, and skilled and well trained for battle. The Elves in Rings of Dog Shit make me want to chop off my arm with a spoon.
It really baffles me that they are going off the rails when it comes to the lore of middle earth. The laziness and arrogance from these “modern writers” is just infuriating. It’s the same problem with Star Wars and Halo. it’s insane man. I’m glad we have The hobbit trilogy, and the Lord of the rings trilogy to enjoy. I can watch all six movies nonstop(including the cartoons, of course). Plus the movie games & the 2003 Hobbit game are great.
Ah, the 2003 The Hobbit. A bit long in some levels but was doing it before LEGOs took over that gaming market. Gotta get all the hearts, gotta get the upgrades. They were few so by nature had more value than what they do with RPG mechanics today - like OG Tomb Raider compared to todays Lara 'Craft'.
After she took 2 I thought "she's dead" since we just saw the Boromir scene, but I forgot where I was momentarily as she takes more and then pops up and can hold her bow draw beyond what any real archer can while healthy.
I'm still in a state of shock that these 2 writers, Patrick McKay and J.D Payne got full control of this show. The only work in the industry they have done is 1 uncredited writing "credit" for Star Trek Beyond. They contributed so little to the movie that they didn't earn a credit. IN WHAT FREAKING UNIVERSE do 2 talentless hacks with 0 experience get full control of a Simarillion/LotR adaptation which is also the most expensive show in history? I really need this question answered. How does this get approved? The only logical answer I can come up with is these dweebs had to have committed some type of fraud and lied their asses off. Or they have dirt on someone high up at Prime. Nothing else makes sense.
Yeah... About that... Audience ratings dropped from 76% all the way down to 51% between seasons 3 and 4... Looks like they are looking to ruin that one too
I think there is a continuity error with the arrows, because all of them are CG, and different people were working on the scene after each time there was a cut.
About the Boromir rip-off scene, all the mentioned issues aside, also fire arrows don't work that way. There's no way to keep a regular arrow on fire when you shoot it.
There was a parody scene in which a viking took exactly one step too many towards a swamp or a forest and immediately got shot dead by a hundred arrows. The scene made more sense, since all the arrows came form the same direction.
Modern audience doesn't care about logic. It was not on the checkbox list to make this show. You had "Many whamen", "Peoples of color", "Small and disabled folks", "White men bad", these sort of things, which are essential to the 12 people who actually want to watch it.
I always thought that boromirs arrows were very precise and deliberate, but I have no idea if it's in the lore in any way Top left, high in the lung Lower centre, in the diaphragm, used for breathing And one more aiming either for the other lung or the heart Again, I have no clue if thats what they were going for, but i love the idea that lurtz was a good enough shot and evil enough to suffocate someone with deliberately placed shots, would be pretty damn cool
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Galadriel took more fall damage from 6ft drop than 300ft plummet . These scenes happened barely a minute apart. ROP is not a serious show, it is a cartoon.
The army attacking Helm's Deep was created by Saruman the White. There's absolutely nothing slightly implausible with the explosives. The five guardians aren't mere wizards. Don't forget that.
In fairness for the battlements chat, only 1 orc climbed over the wall and almost none of the orcs below have bows. Because the whole Orc attack plan is absolute rubbish. The horde rushes towards the wall with no current way of getting over or through the wall and almost no way to threaten the defenders. It's all done to look good but I'd hope that any fantasy fan has a decent knowledge of medieval siege tactics (from the many good books we've read and games played) and can see the many mistakes that have been made.
Well , they worship wokeness. I believe the RoP creators intentionally ruined the Elves because they absolutely consider them to represent Whiteness and patriarchy. They don’t want noble Elves.
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it will get worse before the end...it always gets worse.
bro....i know people, very sporaticly joke about this...but...the " jumbled, nonlogical " shows have increased dramticly over the last 5 yrs...theres a extremely good explanation for this. AI SCRIPTS
While it’s conceivable that bad quality products can be sincere mistakes… examples of “bad marketing” actually seem to be intentional propaganda and norm-setting.
The point of shoving things down our throats isn’t to make us like it, but tolerate it, you know?
It’s pretty much a blessing to become contented to spend my time enjoying the good things. When McDonalds got expensive? Well I was already off it for years, but why not find more joy in the books and games instead of the attention-extracting, mind-numbing social media?
So that’s my next goal, weaning off of youtube more and more. For now, I just watch the good creators.
To be fair: That spot on the wall was safe, since the Orcs stopped climbing up that tree the moment Celebrimbor arrived on the cutscene location. XD
I felt the same way when I watched The Witcher, I was so angry that I wrote a huge text with my complaints to make me feel better. I edited it a little bit and left it as a review on different sites. Netflix's witcher series is a total piece of shit.
The moment they fired an actual Tolkien Expert and Scholar because he called out the poor direction with the writing, because of their inflated egos and bias portrayal of their view of Tolkien's work. . . that was the immediate indication that this show was going to fail.
Wait that happened? Wow Amazon is brain rotted
BuT tHeY hAvE tOlKiEn'S dEsCeNdEnTs!
lol
@@JonahDyer that also is unfortunate they just wanna cash in and don’t care about quality
That's insane to me. I want that person's vision on screen tf?
Wow if that is true…what could go wrong…ohhhh
"Look at the north!"
*points to the direction where sun is rising
Dayum, what an f joke
Hahahahah
That's the North Star! 😆
hahaha haha hahaha
Remember, this season was directed by women only.
You know when they were watching the Boromir scene to copy, they paused it and counted the arrows so they could make sure the girl got hit with more.
Of course, a girl did it first and better
“ even the mightiest of men can be felled by a single arrow, boromir was pierced by many”
“ SO WHAT PIPPIN THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE SHOT BY LIKE SEVEN! WHY IS MY SON DEAD!!” - Denethor probably
The only good thing about this show is all the youtube content being made roasting it.
Disparu's episode reviews being my favorite.
For me it is the EFAP crews breakdowns :)
Based Economy.
I've been watching Random Film Talk's episode breakdowns, they're great.
I am indeed getting entertainment out of pointing and laughing at it. Honestly western AAA entertainment in general.
yea, the roasting vids are more interesting and entertaining lmao
My wife does not care one bit for Lord of The Rings, she has never read the books and only watched the films with me out of curiosity after Rings of Power dropped. In theory she should be the ideal viewer for Amazon, no knowledge of LOTR at all so she can judge it solely on its own merits. She watched the first two episodes and thought they were awful, fact is if you take away the books and films this is just a bad TV series regardless of the rest of LOTR, add all that history and lore then it becomes horrendous.
I think this is really what makes this show so bad. There are plenty of shows/movies where the target audience is exclusively those who have read the source material, and a LOT that are exclusively for a new audience that has never read the source material. Dune for example. I cannot fathom how anyone thinks they're are more than 'meh ok I guess' but people who love dune love the movies. This show does neither of those things. Nobody likes it. Similar to the Acolyte, or the Halo show.
My girlfriend got curious about it when it first launched in 2022. Even though I refused to watch it, she watched the first few episodes on her own. That night, she asked me flat out "is it supposed to be a parody....?"
She literally didn't know if it was a normal show or something closer to Monty Python.
Her answers when I asked her why she thought it was a parody were hilarious. Everything from Galadriel thinking she could swim across the ocean to Suaron being a love interest, to Galadriel killing a troll single handedly. But most of all, it was the writing. She absolutely thought they were making fun of Tolkien's writing style (such as the line about why a rock sinks).
I married her.
I swear the feminists who made this believe women are dum
@@1_underthesun Congratulations.
Anyway yeah, the writings (dialogue, character, lore etc) seems trying to emulate Tolkien's style but fall short; shallow, felt lazy and bordering on parody. Showrunners seemingly trying to rewrite Tolkien's core philosophy while keeping the style, but they failed on both account.
For example, I can understand why they want to make Orcs sympathetic, but the way they portray it just bad. Like one scene shows an orc as "concerned citizen" who only want peace for his mate and offspring, but in another scene they shown to be bloodthirsty monster who attack human without remorse, inconsistent
I'm sure your wife, in particular, is the target audience.... It's fantasy fiction fans who aren't butthurt babies over a change from the source material. It's a great show, sorry all of you negative people don't see it.
The most absurd thing about the Boromir rip off scene is that she was peppered with multiple arrows from multiple sides at the same time, implying that she was the target...but then all these archers that were crack-shots and co-ordinated just stopped shooting her when she took an age to aim her fire arrow...why??? Why did they just nail her that one volly even though they were targeting her, then leave?
Multiple sides, including from the wall. Implying there was friendly fire involved LOL
Even a kid could write that stuff better.
Also, wouldn't having arrows in both shoulders and at least one torso make it harder to fire a bow effectively? Nerve damage and torn muscles do inhibit movement. Pulling that weirdly angled arrow from your own right shoulder with your right arm seems implausible (especially with that extra arrow in the right torso) since having a shoulder injury affects your arm's range of motion. It would also be easier to grab that arrow with your left hand anyway regardless of injury. With the teleporting leg arrows, I'm not even sure she could stand after those, or even put weight on that leg.
Being hit by six attacks that would be debilitating or fatal with little impact or consequence is definitely a subconscious turn-off because it's using video game logic rather than real world logic.
Please the arrow thing KILLED ME😂
The tragedy here is seeing black and Asian elves
"You didn't notice, but your brain did" - Mike Stoklasa
my brain keeps telling me no while my dick says stealthing is best
*Mister Plinkett
If this wasn't a "Lord of the Rings" series then nobody would even know about it. This looks exactly like some random fantasy slob you find on a streaming service.
As a random fantasy slob, I take offense at this comment.
You are NOT pulling a bow back with an arrow in the shoulder.
what about in the leg LOL
If you mean that Boromir knockoff lady *whos name I cannot now remember* I doubt she could do it AT ALL.
As a matter of fact I will say it is physically impossible for someone of her physique to charge a medieval archery bow ever, under any context.
But they needed to win the oppression Olympics.
It's not about making a believable scene. They just needed to one up Boromir because they think it's a contest. More arrows = better. In the end the scene made no sense but that's their logic
@@SourDonut99porcupine of arrows moment
Challenge accepted.
This kind of modern media literally has less than no value. It is a negative integer.
The people making it do it at a financial loss (net negative revenue generated).
The IPs they tack-on additions to *lose* long term fans, with vanishingly small gains in return (net negative engagement).
The entries to the franchises that people *did* like are tarnished by association to the tack-ons (net negative artistry).
And literally every aspect of of each tack-on is cliche and dated on arrival (net negative creativity).
...Oh! And people literally won't even pirate it for free (net negative value as a commodity).
Very good points.
(Not even i would watch this by being Capt Jack)
"But if we keep doing it people will eventually have no choice but to consume, turning the net negatives into forced positives 10-20 years from now."
@@Gehrich_ nope i dont see that happening....ie ill ask u at the start to go on a date with me...ull refuse but ill keep pushing untill we r maried then ill have my way with u...n based apon ur logic u will have to accept.
@@DaSlotho Chill, it's not my logic. You're trying to argue with people who aren't here and whose logic I'm mocking.
Did you miss the quotation marks?
@@Gehrich_ i am "chill" lolz
Ring of power is basically the gollum video game in tv format and this is being mean to gollum.
I think this is actually a scam or money laundering operation.
Money laundering happens wherever the woke are employed. They hire their friends, do nothing, then share company money amongst themselves. They're leeches.
In the words of Mauler, "its a gollum-like"
The showrunners are like those early tourists who carved their initials into monuments like the great pyramids or the Colosseum. Lesser people whose works can never measure up to what they're defacing, trying to somehow attach their name to something they have no business altering.
Except in the case of this show, it's not just that they're vandalizing superior works by people far more talented than themselves, it's that they seem to resent and want to destroy it; like it's very existence makes them feel inadequate.
Precisely how I feel about it, it their world of ashes and shadows, they can't stand the massive beacon of hope, and light in the darkness, that is Tolkien's masterpiece.
That's it. That's _exactly_ it.
They are just lazy, uncultured, and not intelligent.
If they were they'd take inspiration, not use another IP that was already brought to screen.
The Romans did it before the concept of a tourist even existed
Well said
"Stop asking question. Just consume the product!"
All the archers on the wall be like:
- Oh no, that siege enging is gonna destroy our walls.
- Damn. (Lights a cigarette)
If only we had like throwable jars of oil we could throw on it... That would help
- Oh we do actually. But they are not ment to burn down a ravager you see. They are more for small useless crowd control in the middle of the battlefield ^^
- ahhh. Well dang
On the elf girl being shot by arrows scene - I would say it takes an expert movie watcher to notice all the arrows placements continuity in first watchthrough. But something that immediately stands out to break immersion, she is the point of interest for multiple enemies shooting from different angles, but suddenly she's allowed to just stand up, line up a burning arrow and shoot, she's now in no enemy's interest. The sense of urgency is immediately lost, the brain immediately questions, that doesn't make a lot of sense. The events are not grounded, neither is the lore, character motivations, emotions, nothing. You can just feel this feeling that says that's not a very convincing sequence of events, and the movie wall breaks and you can't help feeling okay, now that just happened because the director told the actors and prop masters to behave and put things in certain way and manner. Point being breakage of immersion. People saying this is a good show, they should be taken anti-seriously. I haven't watched the show, but just watching the clips from coverage in yt, I need no explaining that the show is horrendous in all fronts.
Don't call that an Elf. No Tolkien elves are black and Asian
@@goodputin4324 Is that really your main problem? You just watched a critique of RoP that carefully avoids fulfilling the "raging racist fanboy" stereotype and this is all you can come up with?
@@privateprivacy5570 come back to me once you've read the Sil.
@privateprivacy5570 Idk, mabye he actually cares about the lore? Did that go through your tiny brain? Nothing racist about wanting an elf to be an elf.
@@privateprivacy5570 In Appendix F of The Return of the King, he explicitly describes Elves as "fair of skin":
Elves has been used to translate both Quendi, ‘the speakers’, the High-elven name of all their kind, and Eldar, the name of the Three Kindreds that sought for the Undying Realm and came there at the beginning of Days (save the Sindar only). This old word was indeed the only one available, and was once fitted to apply to such memories of this people as Men preserved, or to the makings of Men’s minds not wholly dissimilar. But it has been diminished, and to many it may now suggest fancies either pretty or silly, as unlike to the Quendi of old as are butterflies to the swift falcon - not that any of the Quendi ever possessed wings of the body, as unnatural to them as to Men. They were a race high and beautiful, the older Children of the world, and among them the Eldar were as kings, who now are gone: the People of the Great Journey, the People of the Stars.
They were tall, fair of skin and grey-eyed, though their locks were dark, save in the golden house of Finarfin; and their voices had more melodies than any mortal voice that now is heard. They were valiant, but the history of those that returned to Middle-earth in exile was grievous; and though it was in far-off days crossed by the fate of the Fathers, their fate is not that of Men. Their dominion passed long ago, and they dwell now beyond the circles of the world, and do not return.
Mountain shredding Trebuchets. Not used against walls. Nuff said.
I no longer assume incompetence or poor choices in these cases. I see evil.
It can be both.
It has been happening to too many things for too long to be mere incompetence.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo we are witnessing the controlled demolition of our modern culture
@@ephraimwinslow it certainly seems so
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo they are doing a controlled d3mol!tion of our modern culture (demolition is being censored)
Nobody is the king of on-screen deaths like the walking spoiler that is Sean Bean!
Internet challenge: name five roles he has survived...
@@team_fiasco
Sharpe, and ..errr lady chatterlys lover ?
@@team_fiasco I think he lived in Ronan. He got thrown off the squad for being a fraud but iirc he was alive.
@@team_fiascoIan from National Treasure, he role in Pixels.
@@team_fiascoThere was a BBC prison drama called Time (as in, doing time). In the first series he was the main character.
Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.
I had read Tolkien's Lord of the Rings when I was younger and enjoyed it. But when I was in my 20s I went on a missions trip to Ireland for a summer and everything went to hell. It was awful. I was isolated with no way home and being seriously gaslighted. However the under leader was newly married and he and his wife wanted to go on a bit of a honey moon and asked me to watch their cat. (I had pet sitting skillz and my own little company at home doing just that. So suddenly I had a retreat from the horror of everything. And on the shelf in their tiny manse apartment was a copy of The Fellowship of the Ring. I decided to reread it as a comfort thing. I am not exaggerating that my soul gasped as I began to read it again. It was as if my self had been slowly dying of thirst and Professor Tolkien just gave me a cantine of water. I followed Fellowship with Two Towers and then Return of the King. It gave me back my heart. It helped me set my teeth and press into the foul atmosphere. It gave me hope. What I hate the most about Rings of Power is that it takes all the life giving power out of his work and makes it into a fast food rot your teeth knock off.
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What the former Bad Robot writers did to Lord of the Rings is exactly what JJ Abrams and Kurtzman did to Star Trek.
The "plot" is a series of coincidences with no respect for the established characters or the notions of time and distance in a story.
As a long time Trekkie, the reboots were not perfect by any means, but they tried. They were actively trying and had echoes of the original series which was my favorite. They made it a bit more fast paced than I would have liked and I have plenty of issues but they weren't malicious in their attempt.
Comparing it to the abomination that is the Rings of Prime is lessening what these folks are doing to Tolkien's work I feel. It's a crime that is better likened to Dr. Who.
Jar Jar Abrams and Klutzman /s
The only thing that bothers me more than the abhorrent quality and writing in this show is the people trying to pretend like it’s not a problem.
I've seen people argue that "you can't compare it to the original films." My response was "eating out of a trash can is great as long as you don't compare it to eating a home-cooked meal."
And the worst part is they'll say that you're "weird" for caring about this. But it's perfectly okay to care about it, especially if you love the source material.
Apathy will only serve the arrogant and incompetent and malicious. Don't let them gaslight you
I feel you pal. This series doesn't only score for being the most expensive series ever.
It's also setting a record for stacking up the most reasons to rub me the wrong way.
What a train wreck.
A train wreck happens once and it's over. This series keeps sending more trains down the same tracks without cleaning what came before.
@@terrylandess6072 Pretty accurate analogy, thank you 😆
Lord of the Rings is my favorite trilogy! I will never watch Ring of Power. I believe they are mocking what Tolkien has made. My mind will never be changed.
How do you come to that conclusion without having seen the show?
@@mvose2085I mean, reviews exist for a reason
@@mvose2085 because it's exactly what happened with The Witcher
You're really not missing anything, I sort of wish I could erase it from my memory. You're way better off just reading the original books again.
Lifelong fan, will never watch show.
I don't have to watch the show, but I'm still entertained on UA-cam.
I call this a win-win.
I could not finish season 1. I sensed it was a joke from the start. I could not believe how bad it looked, how awful the direction was, given the budget. The amount of jumping around was disastrous for me. Place after place after place after place and everything seemed so..... inconsequential. It's like they were trying to fabricate excitement, "omg look this place no one knows about!" They didn't earn any of it.
I'm not sure if you like video recommendations, but there's a really interesting video called, "Why in the world did the rings of power cost a billion dollars?" by Ross Macfarlane (on youtube). He takes a much more "meta" approach to the show. Rather than talking about the show itself, he talks about how and WHY it was created. Why are there no big name actors, why do the show writers have literally no writing credentials, why does it feel like a fan fic, etc. A big point is that Amazon apparently considers the show a massive success.
Again, not sure if you appreciate advertising other content creators, but this video brings up some really really good points and really helps frame some of the baffling decision making for the show.
Gonna go look for that.
@@bgtyhnmju7ditto
I agree
In the castle top scene they should have the exposition elfs turning around and accidentally knocking over the ladders, lighting orcs on fire with torches, etc. Just turn it into the Middle Earth version of Naked Gun at this point.
haha someone call the Wayans brothers and get this going!!
@@bruce-le-smith "We need to get rid of those MFing orcs from our hood!"
Samuel L Jackson could also bring comedic value to this version with his "Im tired of those MFing orcs" 😂😂😂
What they've done to the "Wheel of Time" series is also a crying shame
It's almost more of a travesty because that series had the potential to rivial Jacksons LOTR and GOT.
However they murdered it before it could even begine properly.
....don't worry though, that showrunner is now heading up the new God Of War series *facepalm*
LOTR was in planning and development for years before it even began filming. It's half the reason it turned out so well. Mad Max Fury Road also benefited from over a decade of planning from its development hell. Time makes a good artistic product, simple as that. You need passion and love, and respect for the original context and author of the work
Peter Jackson and the crew had 6 YEARS before the cameras started to record scenes. They had almost everything prepared for the trilogy to be filmed.
I doubt that many moviemakers would receive so much time nowadays. Especially when the original Trilogy crew didn't want to put their politics into movies.
Unlike many showrunners/moviemakers nowadays who are unable to create their own universe, they take the established one so they can destroy it with their lack of skills.
"Drain the river and run across!"
"But what about the mud that'll create?"
"Mud? What's that?"
10:47
And as someone experiencing an inflammation in my shoulder at the moment, no you’re not lifting your arm of your shoulder is hit. No amount of grit will make you strong enough to do that with a foreign object inside of your shoulder.
"take the shot, then boom. can you see the arrow?" no, no i can't. i'm so fed up with these garbage night shots, like i literally can't see anything can we get night shots where the actually have lighting so i can see what they are trying to show me?
Lord of The Sleep: Cure for Insomnia is the nickname use when discussing with friends lol
Rings of Power looks like a student project being handed a freak ton of cash for some reason, despite those involved lacking even the basic skills.
It's like a 'rich kids play' where it's only about being in the club and being seen. Our opinion means squat.
I just don't understand how a series, which cost more than the original trilogy adjusted for inflation, has worse writing and so much less effort put into it. We're lucky that trilogy exists to begin with.
One word: fraud
The companies want to make more money but they've gotten to the point they can't sustain but keep trying. It's like wanting to poo more so you have some laxatives but then want to more. That's those companies. Overdosing on laxatives crapping everywhere.
cool pfp, reminds me of my teenage years
I hate to say it and I can’t prove it, but the writing room is probably based more on gender, sexuality and identity than talent, expertise and passion. It seems to be a reoccurring theme with these bad shows.
@@TheBizziniss basically, written and directed by by liberal women = fail
My sincere condolences to you and the fans of TLOTRs. I never knew after the world went after Ghostbusters, that they would go after other series like this.
You call it the most expensive show ever produced, I call it the most expensive Amazon Prime commercial.
And even as a commercial it's a massive failure. Like who'd wanna get Prime for this garbage?
@@Sukenus say what you will, but Prime’s numbers have gone up. Is it because of RoP? Not necessarily, but its existence always keeps Amazon well into your mind and that’s all that matters.
@@chasemiller3712 the numbers may have gone up, but you'd need tens of millions of extra long-term subscribers to cover the cost of making that show.
They are prepping us for a bunch of ultra low effort Ai generated garbage. If the human writing, acting, continuity, story telling, etc etc etc etc is so bad it might as well be Ai generated, it will be easier to switch to Ai generated content. They can pay one director, and one editor (maybe) to generate a bunch of random scenes that are vaguely related, get an Ai generated story that almost makes sense, and then sit and slap it together in a couple months. Then amazon gets to hype the fuck out of it and try to sell their service with a bunch of garbage that is only slightly worse than what already exists.
Honestly it might already be happening. Some of the recent stuff from Disney and Amazon, Netflix and Hollywood seriously make me wonder if the writing was done almost entirely by ChatGPT. If you go into ChatGPT right now, and ask it to generate "the most generic stereotypical, safe, cliche, boring, an inoffensive minecraft movie based on the 2nd Jumanji movie", you will get almost exactly what everyone expects the plot of that movie to be.
That actually makes sense. Besides the woke ESG garbage the writing and storytelling itself has gotten so sloppy over the past decade or so, AI might actually be able to write slop on par with (or even better) than what they've been trying to feed us with.
That's a pretty crazy theory. A bit too crazy IMO.
Personally, I'm chalking this up to a competency crisis. Where a lot of people and their fancy, worthless education have too much of an ego, and clearly no actual clue on what they're doing.
Shit like diversity quotas, esg, and if I may be so frank... just women in general. All of this bullshit being promoted over just simply hiring actually qualified people for the job. This shit has been pushed for years in both education and employment. Now the shit is starting to bear fruit, and it's fucking awful.
There are people absolutely convinced that Disney's movie Wish had its script AI generated. It's definitely already happening.
The issue is that people will find other stories to read and watch
They have actively had script writeing programs before chatgpt was a thing. It's been going on for a long time
This show is why you now pay to have ads in Prime Video.
When Cable/HBO became an option back in 1980's, most of us were so used to commercials which we used to get a drink/use lavatory/etc. that we'd often fall asleep on the couch. Even between movies was only a static list of movies scheduled for the next 12 hours or so. No Commercials. That didn't last long. I F'in hate advertisers because of 'professional' marketing. They have to get into everything like cockroaches.
All those arrows, and she never took one to the Knee?
0/9
then she would have to stop adventuring and become a city guard
Even worse.. at 18:00'ish, it is NOT "Orcs jumping in.."... it is "AN Orc jumping.:." ... one... ONE! 1. Bah humbug!
Also: From ep1... Galadriel standing and take a full face shot ofa pyroclastic flow, moving with perhaps 400km/h and with 100-500 degree hot ahes.. and escape completely unscated, besides from looking like a cheep pop or chips. This really ought to have killed the series for everybody!
Thanks for a great video. Well done.
My hat off to the or engineer who did study ballistic and engineering for so many years to know where to shoot the mountain to make the river dry.
They hate you and your culture, which is why they are attacking your heroes. Stop giving them power by giving them your time and attention.
Amazed he even watched season 1; the writing was on the wall before the show ever aired, for those who are now accustomed to seeing their favourite IPs destroyed.
@3:51, When the CIA guy fires his pistol, the receiver does not cycle. No shell casing is ejected. Yet the weapon is heard discharging (in the original video).
That is a common Hollywood thing. I forgive mostly because in the context of that scene, you have no choice even a blank gun fired that close could injure or kill someone so they used either a non-firing replica or a real gun that was given an empty magazine and added the gunshot sound in post. That is how you avoid an Alec Baldwin.
I try not to watch the Nolan films too often because if my mind wanders from what he WANTS me to look at, then I begin to see cracks in his film design like Spielberg whose magic is about not having time to think.
@@terrylandess6072 Except as something who thinks often Nolan films don't have those cracks. Anyone who pays attention and thinks a bit longer can see the answers.
The rings of money-laundering. See also: Star Wars and Marvel tv shows.
Another massive continuity error Shad mentioned. Eregion had NO wall in season 1. They just instantly poofed a huge wall around the whole city because they wanted to make Eregion's Deep.
“Let’s have two characters kiss because we know it would piss off the fans.”
-The sum
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I'm kinda impressed you could see those teleporting arrows, that was a _really_ dimly lit scene. Probably why they thought they could get away with it. As for the Helm's Deep ripoff...Speaking is a Free Action, apparently. That's why they can have everything stand still while they expo-diarrhea all over the screen. That's no excuse for crappy writing/directing/editing, but it's the only thing that makes sense. It's a badly run DnD campaign where the DM keeps letting the players BS the rules and get into long conversations when time--in game--is of the essence.
What’s crazy is with this same budget they could have made great, faithful adaptions of so many fantasy epics that would work great on tv.
This was unexpected. As a tolkien fan since I could walk it is a welcome one. Great video. Glad to see you branch out to things you're enjoying (or not in this situation).
You should watch a the little platoon and random film talk videos on it. Awesome videos. Boromir’s arc is the best of the series. Let’s not forget the volcano to the face.
Hahaha Walking into a pyroclastic storm.....coming out completly untouched. Yeah best series
No orc climbed while they were having a conversation, they're well raised and couldn't interrupt them.
I stopped Season 1 Episode 1 after 1:30 Minutes. When he told Guyladriel that a Stone sinks cause it looks down i was out.
my sister is law is one of the normies that amazon targets. She thinks the show is cool but when i ask her the next day about the show she goes blank and cannot remember specifics of the episode. To her, it was just an hour where she just go blank and be " entertained" by the cool scenes and stuff even tho she does not understand or remember anything about what she was watching.
That's part of reason I dropped Marvel. I'd watch a movie and go,
"Yeah that was good. Don't know why people are complaining." only to realize the next day that I remember nothing about the movie.
So, pretty literally the experience and purpose of the TV walls in "Fahrenheit 451". That is horrifying.
Dont forget the 10 foot thick miles long wall wasnt in season one. And magically appears in season 2
Lol, here right after the bots. Keep up the good work dude.
A tip concerning frame by frame video playback on YT, you can do this with the "" keys to skip one frame backwards or forwards respectively.
The Booty Bots™️ must really love the rings of power enough to comment half a second after the video drops. Anyway enough about those bot bozos, I was just having a discussion with a friend about this show an hour ago and I told them that I won't even watch this garbage (same with the Wheel of Time abomination, insane how they had SO MUCH source material and yet they fucked it up from episode one)
When I tried the first episode and woke up during the second with no idea what was going on I decided the show was bad.
One thing I noticed about Boromir is how his fighting style changes once he gets shot. It's aggressive and uncoordinated, the style you'd expect for someone who'se life is being barely held together with adrenaline and rage. And you can see how he's on the verge of collapsing after each herculean effort. This Elf on the other hand seems cold and clinical, like the arrows aren't even there a few seconds after she was shot with them (which thanks to sloppy continuity they aren't!). I don't know what happens afterwards, but I imagine she just collapses suddenly, as if she just remembers there are five arrows in her body.
Yep. Another example of how more realistic the original films are, despite being fantasy films was Aragorn’s fight with Lurtz (the lead Uruk-Hai who killed Boromir) occurred. A lot of the blows he hands on Aragorn are real. The actor was actually hitting Vigo Morton in that scene.
As a long time LoTR fan it pleases me so much to see so many other fans rising to defend it. Thank you for calling it bad and not giving people the option to say it's anything else.
I love the stupid Sharknado movies because they're absolutely awful and cringe and I enjoy laughing and mocking it. Doesn't mean it's good and I'd never fight anyone on that. Anyone who thinks Rings of Prime is good needs to admit the same thing. It's just garbage, the end.
Even in a breakdown of the scene I *still* felt my heartstrings getting pulled on by Boromir's death.
Rich: How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite IPs get burned to the ground?
Mike: it feels great
The arrows hitting the female elf scene felt like ben stiller in tropic thunder getting sh*t multiple times but still has the energy to jump up and tap the grenade out of its trajectory.
Need a Mauler breakdown for this episode lol
UE: Rings of Power has jumped off the cliff of horrible taste.
Critical Drinker: It never even was on the cliff, lad.
I love how when I search for this scene from season 2 episode 7, youtube first doesn't find it and second, suggests to me to watch Boromir's final stand scene. Ok 👌... :D
Sauron much like everyone here is suffering major character assassination.
When I was probably 13 or 14 years old, I wrote some LoTR fan fiction. I found it a year or two ago in some of my moms old stuff and I read through it. I recall, at the time of writing it, I was super proud of what I had written, I thought it was great. Reading through it now, it was complete trash(but I was 14, and this was the time before google so I was working with what I had).
Main problem with what I had written was I didn't know what to do with characters other than to make them do things to get me from point A in the narrative, to point B. There was no consistency in their personality or motivations, I needed "thing" to happen and so characters would do whatever was required to make "thing" occur. Rings of Power feels exactly like my terrible 14 year old fan fiction. However, as a life long Tolkien nut, the garbage I wrote back then was more lore accurate by leaps and bounds than anything in Amazons trash heap of a series.
Even at 14 I would have realized how stupid it was that my catapults could bring down a mountain, but couldn't blow up a wall in Eregion? I also portrayed the Elves as magical, enigmatic beings, not the pointy eared human retards like Amazon did. When Haldir showed up to Helms Deep to aid Aragorn and Rohan, it was EPIC. You felt like now they had a fighting chance. The elves were disciplined, and skilled and well trained for battle. The Elves in Rings of Dog Shit make me want to chop off my arm with a spoon.
I remember that before this show even started on Amazon, when there were only sneak peeks, the criticizers were called *ists and *phobes.
PPS Your spot on critique reminds me of the same kinds of problems with Inception. A film many liked but it is simply atrocious.
It really baffles me that they are going off the rails when it comes to the lore of middle earth. The laziness and arrogance from these “modern writers” is just infuriating. It’s the same problem with Star Wars and Halo. it’s insane man. I’m glad we have The hobbit trilogy, and the Lord of the rings trilogy to enjoy. I can watch all six movies nonstop(including the cartoons, of course). Plus the movie games & the 2003 Hobbit game are great.
The Hobbit trilogy is great, it doesn't deserve the hate.
Ah, the 2003 The Hobbit. A bit long in some levels but was doing it before LEGOs took over that gaming market. Gotta get all the hearts, gotta get the upgrades. They were few so by nature had more value than what they do with RPG mechanics today - like OG Tomb Raider compared to todays Lara 'Craft'.
"UA-cam has a garbage copyright system"
Not if you're pokimane
The orc's used ACME, amazing disappearing reappearing arrows.
During the "plagiarized Boromir" scene I half expected all the arrows to be in her head, "look how tough she is, she can tank 20 arrows to the head".
After she took 2 I thought "she's dead" since we just saw the Boromir scene, but I forgot where I was momentarily as she takes more and then pops up and can hold her bow draw beyond what any real archer can while healthy.
Ok, I read the screen title as Rings of poo, and was a bit surprised to see it was from Upper Echelon.
I'm still in a state of shock that these 2 writers, Patrick McKay and J.D Payne got full control of this show.
The only work in the industry they have done is 1 uncredited writing "credit" for Star Trek Beyond. They contributed so little to the movie that they didn't earn a credit.
IN WHAT FREAKING UNIVERSE do 2 talentless hacks with 0 experience get full control of a Simarillion/LotR adaptation which is also the most expensive show in history?
I really need this question answered. How does this get approved?
The only logical answer I can come up with is these dweebs had to have committed some type of fraud and lied their asses off. Or they have dirt on someone high up at Prime.
Nothing else makes sense.
Is there a single person of 'quality' on that show or is it a collection of people happy just to be there helping to launder millions of dollars?
Amazon has been making alot of garbage shows sadly. The boys is their main saving grace
Yeah... About that... Audience ratings dropped from 76% all the way down to 51% between seasons 3 and 4... Looks like they are looking to ruin that one too
You should read the comics. Ennis is a beast.
@@woodrowgodshyne1654 People tell me the absolute oposite that the comic is not much good but the show is leagues ahead.
76% to 51% in audience ratings... That show isn't special.
Dude the last few seasons of the Boys has been trash. What are u on about.
I think there is a continuity error with the arrows, because all of them are CG, and different people were working on the scene after each time there was a cut.
About the Boromir rip-off scene, all the mentioned issues aside, also fire arrows don't work that way. There's no way to keep a regular arrow on fire when you shoot it.
And they are never used that way. They are mainly used in naval engagements.
There was a parody scene in which a viking took exactly one step too many towards a swamp or a forest and immediately got shot dead by a hundred arrows.
The scene made more sense, since all the arrows came form the same direction.
Modern audience doesn't care about logic. It was not on the checkbox list to make this show. You had "Many whamen", "Peoples of color", "Small and disabled folks", "White men bad", these sort of things, which are essential to the 12 people who actually want to watch it.
I always thought that boromirs arrows were very precise and deliberate, but I have no idea if it's in the lore in any way
Top left, high in the lung
Lower centre, in the diaphragm, used for breathing
And one more aiming either for the other lung or the heart
Again, I have no clue if thats what they were going for, but i love the idea that lurtz was a good enough shot and evil enough to suffocate someone with deliberately placed shots, would be pretty damn cool
all scenery, no substance.
btw they want to make 5 season of this? SHAME SHAME SHAME
Evil cannot create, only corrupt what exists.
I wish to thank Amazon for giving me a greater appreciation for the work of the late great JRR Tolkien.
The Silmarillon is a fun read
It's an insult to what is arguably one of the greatest pieces of Western literature in the history of our civilisation
There are few creators that can say, "If you disagree, you are wrong," and have me giggle with anticipation as a reaction. Upper Echelon is one of them 😂
Galadriel took more fall damage from 6ft drop than 300ft plummet . These scenes happened barely a minute apart. ROP is not a serious show, it is a cartoon.
The army attacking Helm's Deep was created by Saruman the White. There's absolutely nothing slightly implausible with the explosives. The five guardians aren't mere wizards. Don't forget that.
Sauron justifying torture because of his history with Morgoth is an egregious manipulation of the lore
"one does not SIMPLY waste 750 million dollars"
In fairness for the battlements chat, only 1 orc climbed over the wall and almost none of the orcs below have bows. Because the whole Orc attack plan is absolute rubbish.
The horde rushes towards the wall with no current way of getting over or through the wall and almost no way to threaten the defenders. It's all done to look good but I'd hope that any fantasy fan has a decent knowledge of medieval siege tactics (from the many good books we've read and games played) and can see the many mistakes that have been made.
And why is it so dark? I cannot see shit in that scene, it is so dark! Boromir's last stand was in plain daylight!
The statistical improbability that this many people could be this incompetent makes me believe that this show is entirely intentional.
Well , they worship wokeness.
I believe the RoP creators intentionally ruined the Elves because they absolutely consider them to represent Whiteness and patriarchy. They don’t want noble Elves.
Am I mistaken, or did she fire that arrow to cause an explosion at the wall which her enemies were already trying to destroy?