Telefunken M80 VS Sennheiser e835 **Jazz vocalist compares microphones**
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2023
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I appreciate both of these microphones and if you're a beginner looking to upgrade from a Shure SM58, I would highly recommend the Sennheiser. However, as I continue to advance in my career, I have found that Telefunken offers a cleaner and more professional sound, which personally suits my needs better. I would love to hear your thoughts in the comments section below!
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I just ordered the E835 cuz of this video
That’s fantastic! It’s truly an amazing long lasting mic for any musician!
everyone is missing that the E835 is a cardioid mic while the M80 is a super cardioid mic. Having both on hand in a live situation is best (this is what I do).
Thank you for this video.... I'm a Paramore fan and recently went to a concert and noticed that Hayley has switched from the Sennheiser to the M80. I was considering dropping the $$ and switching too But I think I will stick with my Sennheiser e835 - It has done me well for the last 15ish years.
The e835 has a brighter tone for my voice which I actually really like and it’s also lasted me for many years and never fails!!!
I like the sennheiser more, its a fuller sound and the telefunken sounds more hollow
It definitely has a wider sound and the e835 is more bright, I wish they both had more bass!
It's funny the guy commented that the Telefunken cut through more when I found the Sennheiser cut through a good bit more. The Telefunken sounded beefier but a little tamer in the high end (not a bad thing, just different) but the clarity on the Sennheiser is beautiful, at least with the EQ settings you've set on the Bose. I really like the clear top end and tamed mid frequencies on the e-835 but I love the overall balance of the Telefunken. I feel when you do sing in your higher registers the Telefunken will handle those frequencies really well. I'd love to hear more singing with the Telefunken. The Telefunken is definitely a "darker" sounding mic, not as bright as the e-835 but very clean. Great sound on both these mics. It just depends on the voice and/or the sound you're going for (your voice happens to sound incredible on both).
This was the perfect video I was looking for && the only one. thanks!!
Glad I could help!!!!
Thanks for doing this video, Dominique! Very helpful. I’ve been shopping for a studio handheld, and definitely need to add the M80 to my list after watching! Telefunken did a great job with this - almost condenser sounding! BTW, great voice! - Bill
Thank you so much Bill!!
Honestly the Sennheiser sounds so warm. There is more clarity on The Telefunken but I think some of the mid warmth is lost. I´m a Sinatra singer so the Sennheiser E835 cable and E935 Radio mic have always been my go to choice. I like the look of the Telefunken (especially the gold one - as it looks like Sinatra`s gold plated AKG C535), but I´m not sure I would get the same "silkiness" that jazz singing requires. Thank you so much for the review, really useful. Your vocals are beautiful by the way :)
Thank you so much!!! I agree, for jazz singing the M80 has more of a wider sound and I find the e835 is brighter and has a more of a conversational tone!
The e835 sounds modern and clean, the M80 sounds vintage, I think the choice between one or the other will depend on the musical genre and the color of the performer's voice, with your voice I liked the e835 much more.
A cordial greeting!
El e835 tiene un sonido más moderno y limpio, el M80 suena vintage, creo que la elección entre uno u otro dependerá del género musical y del color de voz del interprete, con tu voz a mí me gustó mucho más el e835.
Un cordial saludo!
Thanks to take the time to share your “perfect sound research”, but sincerely they are so many things going on on stage (starting with the artist's performance) that the difference may not be that obvious… Have you tried the Sennheiser e945, which is maybe between the e835 and the Tele M80? With a jazzy voice like yours, some old Beyerdynamic are also worth trying (less brilliant than modern microphones, but more “silky”…) 😇
Telefunken definitely is more direct and gives a bit more low end for a female voice. But E835 is anyways famous for being absolutely neutral sounding and be better for middle tenor / bariton voices.
Bought 835 yesterday and found your video. Its my very first microphone. Can you recommend me a good amp with reverb and stuff? That i wont go broke over? Just to start out.
Telefunken was smoother, it was very obvious through the interface, not as obvious through the Bose system. I would definitely use the Telefunken for Jazz over the Sennheiser.
Changed all my mics from SM58 to all M80s.
They both sound great (and you sound great!), but the M80 makes your vocal sound more like a record, like a fully mixed lead vocal track sung through a nice condenser mic in the studio.
1st mic I prefer..
The e835 sounds noticeably better than the M80 (through your recording device). However, the M80 is a supercardioid mic, whereas the e835 is a regular cardioid. The supercardiod pattern can make a mic sound louder within a certain frequency range. Though, supercardioid mics usually have an issue with "plosives"... words beginning with the letter "p". The "P"losive sound is noticeably more on supercardiod than regular cardioid. My vote for is for the e835... sounds warmer and more in control.
However, this does not mean the M80 is a bad choice. Many musicians I work with have studio mics and "gig" mics. The e835/935/945 line of Sennheiser mics are used a lot for live shows, along with the Audix OM line. Usually, the more expensive mics (like the M80) are kept for the studio. Great singing and voice!
We’re missing the most critical component of any mic test here, which is where is sits in a mix. Solo mic tests are limited and will favor warm, flat mics. Mic tests in a mix will favor brighter mics. The Telefunken cuts.
Thank you!!!
@@adamproctor483 You can check out some of my live videos/recorded sessions on my channel with the e835 & M80!
I think otherwise...the m80 is a "stage microphone" like it's designed for when an arena is loud to pic up the singer's voice rather then the background to my understanding of it... "more expensive for the studio" begins at 500$ but then again it's ballpark it's relative to the studio
As a sound engineer, I prefer the Sennheiser microphone. With the Telefunken, the breath and pop noises bother me. The handling noise is also higher. The different frequency response can be adjusted with the EQ, but you can't get rid of the wind noise caused by breathing.
I have the e935 and the M80. The e935 sounds more compressed which is great for backing vocals live; the M80 cuts through better and have better dynamics as long as the singer is positioned / angled correctly- better for lead vox
I own both mics. I admittedly use the M80 because psychologically I think it sounds better because it's more expensive. I honestly think your voice sounds measurabley better and clearer with the 835.
I own the Sennheiser e935 and i bought 2 telefunkin m80's. I love my Sennheiser, it was $200. I bought the telefunkin because it comes in different colors, so if im doing more than one microphone, i could have different effect for each microphone. For example, i am doing a tribute to the O'jays "For the Love of Money ", where I have one mic for the lead vocal and one set differently for doing the chourus, i know which mic is which because my Sennheiser is black, but my Telefunkin m80's , one is cherry wood and the other is oak wood. Also, the Telefunkin m80 has flattened sides so if you set it down on a surface it won't roll. But, i don't have the Telefunkin m80's yet, so i will have to comeback to this video. When my wife finds out i bought 2 new microphones plus a new Yamaha sv-200 electric violin, she is going to be pissed. Unfortunately, my wife doesn't like my musical career as much as i do, but I support Trunp and she hates him and she goes full "TDS" on me when i tell her that i love Trump, to bad for her. He he he he he he.
I've used both. Honestly, live, the TELEFUNKEN blows the other mic away.
e835 price vs performance. It's a winner. One of the most interesting parts of this video is how muffled both of those mics sounded relative to the mic that she was using to talk with. Camera mic?
very close....on "when you sigh", the Telefunken sounded a little clearer but drilled my ear a bit....it's like the difference between an sm58 and e835 continues but gets a bit brassy on "sigh" for the m80.... very close otherwise.. I just love the fullness of the e835 on many things,,
Senheiser sounds more articulate and clear as well more volume than the Telefunken. . . But im also hearing impaired so could just be me
Telefuken was nice it has simbalince which could be helped with technique and effects chain. It has a warm tone. Fuller. Keep rocking.
Thank you!!!
E835 is best for caterwauling
to my ears the M80 sounds more professional. the E835 is more bassy . it fits more to your voice. I have the m80 and I am a guy but have thin airy voice so it fits to me more.
Love the red mic
The Sennheiser too sharp
It’s very sharp and sometimes can feedback because it’s HOT and bright
I use for years 835 and 935. and I love them very much. for your vocal m80 sound better
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These are great time-stamps for all the mic trials!! Thank you!
the E835 is one of the very few mic's that does NOT provide more low end then a Singer needs... If you sing jazz, put some extra lows on your channel EQ, better than cutting it on your mixer for other styles because the mic gives too much. A lot of othe,r slightly more expensive, mics - even Sennheisers own E845 gives so much bass that it gets in the way of other instruments especially in live situations. More is not always better, on the contrary. There's enough low in the E835 to sound convincing for men and women, but all the useless low is left behind with this mic. No fatique with this mic, a true masterdesign!
whatever mic youre using while speaking sounds better than either mic. sounds like its under a blanket. you need a band behind you to tell what its really going to do... like a really snarly telecaster sounds rough alone but with a band it cuts through
TELFUNCKEN SEEMS BETETR AT ALTO RANGE, E835 WOULD BE BETTER FOR STAGE OR BASSY RADIO SOUND AND HAS ALOT MORE BODY IN THE MIDS. I WOULD SOFTEN THE M80 A LITTLE
I THINK A GREAT MIC WOULD BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 2 MICS
Yes! I’m still looking for something that perfectly fits my tone in the middle!
Sennheiser
Well Telefunken is definitely better but the sennheiser is still good …
Yeah! I also think they’re appealing for different reasons, each have pros and cons but I really like how the M80 is less likely to have feedback because it isn’t as bright as the e835 and feedback is the worst!
One could argue that the M80 sounds better (or not), but definitely not 3x better...
stop playing to close your mouth and lips stick love that 😮 colour
anything sounds better than the room mic in the intro, holy crap! dont use condenser mics in an untreated room!!!
I honestly should’ve used some kind of dynamic shure. I was in my basement using the build in camera microphone…..yikes😂
Telefunken better. Girl... BEAUTIFUL VOICE
The Sennheiser sounds a LOT better, more natural clarity, less sibilance, less plosives and better controlled proximity buildup.
Also - far more reasonably priced, plus it's an actual German brand and manufacturer with decades of tradition, not a USA new company buying an old defunct German distribution company name badge to milk on the "vintage prestige" and sell China made products at vastly jacked up prices.
So... Sennheiser all the way.
The Telefunken Mics are not made in China. That is not correct.
@@sonyphotoguy6601 You think? Dig deeper. Assembled/tuned/checked/setup are very fancy words IMHO.
I know people who visited the company. Colleagues of mine. @@PrantoKoX
And Telefunken was not only a Distribution company. They produced a lot. Also the Tubes of the Neumann Mics.
@@sonyphotoguy6601 Both of you are right. Telefunken (Siemens & Halske and AEG Subsidiary) produced and developed tubes, but was priomarily active in all areas related to radio transmission. But they never produced microphones. All sold microphones with Telefunken label were produced by real microphone companies like Neumann, Gefell, Sennheiser, AKG, Schoeps.