Instagram reels has its own culture man, it's not just the crap music videos, it's anything deemed by the broader collective to be worthy of hate. Its reached a point where these music and music videos are probably intentionally made bad so they can get more views and comments to boost the algorithm.
Yeah people get into a sort of competition to make the funniest comment about something in a video, you mentioned that phenomenon in another video too.
One of your biggest points is that music is up against all these other types of content. It leads to watered down dopamine pinpointed music instead of what it should be - an experience and journey. Imagine if movies didn’t have theatres and had to compete too. I think there should be a social media platform just for music, or one highly favored towards it
totally agree. i think some artists are able to make content that feels like art, but most either struggle to do that, or sacrifice the quality of the music to do it. I think what Spotify is doing with "Clips" will eventually become exactly what ur talking about. but the issue is it will still allow for really dope visuals to outshine kinda okay music
@@offtheline-x8w this is well said too! there's an art to how music can be shared on the internet as well but the types of videos i talked about on here are not rly the best examples of it haha
I feel like alongside this conversation we gotta talk about how there are sm artist now that are being intentionally “cringe” or “campy” but in a cool way and how that’s inspiring people or pushing aesthetics in a certain direction. For instance, take groups like drain gang, haunted mound, and shed theory. I feel like their use of tags in the beats (“nukes are now legal” or “real haunted mound” as examples) or their subject matter could come off as cringe to certain ppl but it’s also what makes their music so fun and unique and it’s definitely inspired me with my music and how I present it with my cover arts and videos. To me, it shows ppl that you can truly be yourself, incorporate things that you enjoy in your life, and just have fun making art and doing whatever YOU think is cool and entertaining
@@hadjitube maybe you can make a video on how those types of groups are heavily influencing underground aesthetics and marketing and credit me for the idea so I can get more eyes on MY music 👁👁 💀
My explore page is so cooked right now, it's just these kind of reels everywhere haha. That "Just not over it" song is actually kinda fire tho, definitely the best of the bad music reels.
When i discovered Pinknoise on TikTok i was surprised how positive everyone was in the comments. Never Last is such a good song (vocally, lyrically and sonically are amazing) and I'm glad they found the right audience.
this is a great conversation to have, i think, and i agree with your take. i am obviously concerned about music made exclusively to be algorithmically viable, but honestly, a lot of chart-topping artists do the same, only with a level of gloss and 'professionality' that's unattainable for an amateur. i'm happy to know that other people find positive and even inspiring attributes to music that sounds so obviously amateur, unpolished, unprofessional (and i say this with no malice at all). i think that you can often find a lot of artistry, although untethered, there. that kind of naivete is a rare commodity, but it is rarely accompanied by a creative vision. LUCY (Cooper B. Handy) comes to mind: i've seen his music often described in the same terms i used before, but he's still clever, catchy as hell and in my top tier of artists. 31:07 i think this comment ties the conversation up very beautifully! thanks for the discussion.
Lowkey I attract this type of audience if I add certain hashtags in tiktok, mainly like Kai cenat or related streamers it added the one of hate comments on our artists music. I think it’s just seeing a balance of good content to put out there and understanding who is supposed to listen to it, even if our sounds are realized
I‘m a small artist and I thought a lot about if I should post a really bad cover in order to get shares and get noticed, but at the same time I‘d be scared people would think I‘m serious and block me or something 😅
it's hard. I'm lucky I started putting stuff out before everything was algorithm-first. but if I've learned anything it's just dropping consistent quality. when I switch the vibe of my posts on IG I see them perform not as well, but when I do the same thing a few times in a row sometimes it starts to pick up
You should listen to Flexnes by Arif if you want some good Norwegian rap. Hes currently doing a really cool art installation in the Edward Munch museum where you can look inside the studio in real time
Nah the Jakky Man video is engineered to be obnoxious. He’s been playful into this satirical emo rapper troll persona. Dude makes content with the Cherdley’s type of haha jnco jeans comedians.
Coined the term 'MEMESICIAN' about a month ago. I cant stand these meme blast beat drummers playing over pop songs for hits. MEME WORLD. Also only hot girls get hits now its hilarious.
@@hadjitubehaha for real I get these all the time and it’s always someone new, you HAVE to check out catatonic youths. It’s a meme page with only these weird hated artists being posted. You see a lot of tx2, Viking guy and other random Ppl
Jesus Christ the jakkyman hater to Stan pipeline is crazy lol
i believe it man ur music is good haha i didnt understand the hate at all when it popped up for me
Instagram reels has its own culture man, it's not just the crap music videos, it's anything deemed by the broader collective to be worthy of hate. Its reached a point where these music and music videos are probably intentionally made bad so they can get more views and comments to boost the algorithm.
instagram is so hateful now. a lot of people just hate on anything popular and are really racist as well :/
Yeah people get into a sort of competition to make the funniest comment about something in a video, you mentioned that phenomenon in another video too.
One of your biggest points is that music is up against all these other types of content. It leads to watered down dopamine pinpointed music instead of what it should be - an experience and journey. Imagine if movies didn’t have theatres and had to compete too. I think there should be a social media platform just for music, or one highly favored towards it
totally agree. i think some artists are able to make content that feels like art, but most either struggle to do that, or sacrifice the quality of the music to do it. I think what Spotify is doing with "Clips" will eventually become exactly what ur talking about. but the issue is it will still allow for really dope visuals to outshine kinda okay music
@@offtheline-x8w this is well said too! there's an art to how music can be shared on the internet as well but the types of videos i talked about on here are not rly the best examples of it haha
"That manicuring image just to get outviewed by someone who doesnt care" is a BARRR. Thank you for that one lol
I feel like alongside this conversation we gotta talk about how there are sm artist now that are being intentionally “cringe” or “campy” but in a cool way and how that’s inspiring people or pushing aesthetics in a certain direction. For instance, take groups like drain gang, haunted mound, and shed theory. I feel like their use of tags in the beats (“nukes are now legal” or “real haunted mound” as examples) or their subject matter could come off as cringe to certain ppl but it’s also what makes their music so fun and unique and it’s definitely inspired me with my music and how I present it with my cover arts and videos. To me, it shows ppl that you can truly be yourself, incorporate things that you enjoy in your life, and just have fun making art and doing whatever YOU think is cool and entertaining
@@SHADOWXLANN209 real asf
@@hadjitube maybe you can make a video on how those types of groups are heavily influencing underground aesthetics and marketing and credit me for the idea so I can get more eyes on MY music 👁👁 💀
i toss in my sleep thinking about the music i used to openly show people that i made in highschool lol
its a shared experience if that makes u feel any better i deleted my 8th grade mixtape so hard that i cant even find it myself anymore
loving the videos
This video became way more in depth on the psychology of the internet than I ever expected this was awesome
haha i didnt know where it was gonna go when i started writing it, but i was excited when it ended up going there
Artists seeing themselves in this video like 👁️👄👁️
hadji ur killing it
My explore page is so cooked right now, it's just these kind of reels everywhere haha. That "Just not over it" song is actually kinda fire tho, definitely the best of the bad music reels.
When i discovered Pinknoise on TikTok i was surprised how positive everyone was in the comments. Never Last is such a good song (vocally, lyrically and sonically are amazing) and I'm glad they found the right audience.
this is a great conversation to have, i think, and i agree with your take.
i am obviously concerned about music made exclusively to be algorithmically viable, but honestly, a lot of chart-topping artists do the same, only with a level of gloss and 'professionality' that's unattainable for an amateur.
i'm happy to know that other people find positive and even inspiring attributes to music that sounds so obviously amateur, unpolished, unprofessional (and i say this with no malice at all). i think that you can often find a lot of artistry, although untethered, there. that kind of naivete is a rare commodity, but it is rarely accompanied by a creative vision. LUCY (Cooper B. Handy) comes to mind: i've seen his music often described in the same terms i used before, but he's still clever, catchy as hell and in my top tier of artists.
31:07 i think this comment ties the conversation up very beautifully! thanks for the discussion.
I feel like jpro birthed this entire genre of content
This is really good bro, thank you
put the fries in the bag bro 😭😂
"WE WERE HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEARTS🔥❗🗣️🗣️🔊🔊📢📢"
great video man
Lowkey I attract this type of audience if I add certain hashtags in tiktok, mainly like Kai cenat or related streamers it added the one of hate comments on our artists music.
I think it’s just seeing a balance of good content to put out there and understanding who is supposed to listen to it, even if our sounds are realized
Not a rapper, but a Norwegian artist/producer Jimi Somewhere. You definitely should check him out
@@iirouniverse thats the homie 🤞🏼
Im 13 minutes in, does he mention catatonic youths??? That’s like the haven for all these ig artists
I love this guys videos
this is what you get when someone truly loves music and is sharing a story.
before the diabolical algorithm seeps in and ruins the youthful purity.
I can see the temptation to lean into it if it pays the bills😂
I‘m a small artist and I thought a lot about if I should post a really bad cover in order to get shares and get noticed, but at the same time I‘d be scared people would think I‘m serious and block me or something 😅
@@CarminaTunes haha i dont think theyd block you, some people might unfollow you if they dont get the bit
Danks 4 UR service 🙏🏻🔥
2:05 “At first I thought I fried my own algorithm” 😂
@@RapsandRiffs i lowkey did but still haha
@@hadjitube meeee tooo with my 🧠 that is why I can listen to Farrah Abraham and appreciate them for the pioneer that they are.
I'M JUST NOT OVER ITTTTTT 🗣🔥🎶🎶
I haven't encountered this trend since I'm not very active on deeply looking at content on Instagram.
The end of this video is reminding me about “outsider music” im sure you’ve read about it a bit or seen videos about it hadji
had never heard the term! super interesting. ive listened to daniel johnston before though so im a bit familiar with the characters
why is yt only serving me bangers at 4am
welcome !!
Thank god more people are talking about this now
Tbh idk how to even enter the algorithm without paying for ads
it's hard. I'm lucky I started putting stuff out before everything was algorithm-first. but if I've learned anything it's just dropping consistent quality. when I switch the vibe of my posts on IG I see them perform not as well, but when I do the same thing a few times in a row sometimes it starts to pick up
why is he kinda goated
jakkyman is flames. now the yippee song on the other hand...
10:33 Erling Haaland is the best Norwegian rapper.
You should listen to Flexnes by Arif if you want some good Norwegian rap. Hes currently doing a really cool art installation in the Edward Munch museum where you can look inside the studio in real time
Now do a „really good songs/artist I found on Insta“ video
@@LVK.67 this would be dope but idk if my algorithm can ever recover
Lil B was one of those meme artists too
good call. totally should have talked about Lil B here. but there were people who thought Lil B was fire from day 1 for sure
Really great video m8
I blame BandLab and CapCut for this😭😭😭
@@ajdrybread some of the shit my students make on bandlab goes stupid hard ngl
Loved the video! I can’t stop staring at the hat tho💀
i've been wondering how i look when viewed from other eyes
W thumbnail W content keep it up
It went number two but it’s more like a number one song. Not like us just so happened to drop
LMAOO I always see Mykel in these comment sections 😂😂😂
Put some respec on jakkybois name
great video
you look like kevin tierney’s more self aware brother (not derogatory)
im about to google that name with a pit in my stomach
Come on man
felt relevant to the video
@@jshstuff hate that for me
Speaking of Norwegian rappers u should check out LJJR
What do you think about Jojo Siwa and her new music career?
haha i havent rly listened but ive seen some other youtubers giving it the business
Why not prvnci and his dumb cat videos
@@sujithas7832 just did whatever popped up on my algorithm that one day haha theres an endless feed of this
+1sub ⭐️
Nah the Jakky Man video is engineered to be obnoxious. He’s been playful into this satirical emo rapper troll persona. Dude makes content with the Cherdley’s type of haha jnco jeans comedians.
Coined the term 'MEMESICIAN' about a month ago. I cant stand these meme blast beat drummers playing over pop songs for hits. MEME WORLD. Also only hot girls get hits now its hilarious.
memesician is a great word lmaoo i think there are a bunch of guys with breakout hits rn though
“Emergency Emergency calling Dr. Beat!” 🚨
/w
Im 13 minutes in, does he mention catatonic youths??? That’s like the haven for all these ig artists
haha i didnt but ima check them out, the craziest thing is everybody is getting these but theyre all getting different artists
@@hadjitubehaha for real I get these all the time and it’s always someone new, you HAVE to check out catatonic youths. It’s a meme page with only these weird hated artists being posted. You see a lot of tx2, Viking guy and other random Ppl