I seriously can't understand why no AAA studio has made a game as in depth as RDR2 but in a fantasy style like Skyrim with all the loot systems and character building aspects. It must be incredibly difficult to make because the gaming community is literally begging for a game like this and it's guaranteed money.
None of these mentioned games are even remotely close to a Bethesda RPG. >1st person >Full created character >Level skills by using them >Fully open world >Fully lootable NPCs Make it happen, someone, for the love of god.
I hate to agree. But you make a good point. I'm pretty sure, like all Western Devs" they're infiltrated by wokie 🤡👹🐋💩 freaks. That only care about genderless activists b.s. like making all Woman characters look trans and ugly. With huge chains and no 🍑. That's said. I'll still hope they fire all the freaks. And make the kinda Elder Scrolls all us want. I want them to push A.i again. Line they did in Oblivion. When NPCs would pick up swords you left in the shop and equip them. You could feed your pet dog. See an NPC hunting deer in the woods 🏹 🦌. And No "FKING! PRONOUNS!!" Haha
honestly i don't think ES6 will come out, instead what we have to look forward to is mods such as skyblivion and skywind, these are sort of recreations of the beloved older elder scrolls game in skyrim's engine and mechanics, these mods have been worked on for over a decade now, skyblivion is going to come out for the full release to the public in 2025 just around the corner here, so we at least have that to play this next year. the thing is i don't think it's smart to even look forward to what bethesda is planning, the modders often make better products for free while using Bethesda's very engine to make these creations, i mean have you heard of fallout London? that project released only a few months ago and it's getting regular updates daily and a lot of ppl are loving it, it seems to have better writing than bethesda does in their games lately, so again, it's the modders we look to for new gaming experiences, because these days bethesda doesn't seem to be able to get to the level that modders often reach in their own gaming engine, it's likely why bethesda tries so hard to get the modders on their side because they know they are more often than not beat by the modders of their own games. so don't dwell on what bethesda is going to make, instead look forward to what the modders have in store for us, because bethesda never seems to hit the mark that players want from them these days.
@@5226-p1e What blows my mind is why don't they just hire the modders? They do such a great job with limited resources and your company is essentially creatively bankrupt. Fresh ideas on a budget seems like a no brainer.
@@thefreshvince879 Not even a decent MMO. Played it during beta, it was shite, played it in 2017 and it was shite, played it in 2020 and it was shite. The only good thing about it is that console players get to experience an MMO, but making it console compatible is also its detriment.
@ yeah the Daggerfall music was great but we’re not in the era of midi They’re gonna get inon zur again and the soul of elder scrolls is Jeremy It’s gonna suck
Same , my Life is going pretty well regardless but there’s this empty void that I can’t fill with anything else. I yearn for it . I have fantasies of us fans getting together with pitchforks and storming bethesda hq ultimately killing Todd howard and ushering a new leadership.
You are. Its probably coming out in 2028. They just got started on it. Trust me it will be worth the weigth since they were putting most of their resources in Starfield but telling by Starfield graphics, ELDROLL 6 will be amazing with mods.
Bruh I am already in my mid 30s and have a wife and kids. I played oblivion when I was 19 and about to start college. Odds are I will be playing TES 6 when my kiddos are old enough to understand the lore.
They've made us wait 13 years and counting and if that's not heartbreaking enough, seeing the current state of bethesda just shatters your hopes of seeing a new beautiful world to immerse yourself completely... Remember when it was early 2000's and they were about broke, they spent their last energies in making the ultimate game and that saved them? The game was so good that players loved it even today. They can't stop loving it. That was Morrowind. Players helped Bethesda come back to life, but then they started getting greedy and this is now how they pay them back after all these years... TES is their last chance. It's their most important IP. It's one of the most iconic videogames franchise ever. I don't even wanna look how it turns out...
@@thefreshvince879 Yet it was there most succesful launch to date and is still doing great! Explain that with actual facts!! No here say from grown children crying online!!
@@jmangames5562 There was hype for a new Bethesda release, so a lot of people bought the game. It's also their worst user-rated game on Steam (so far)
Because Fallout 76 came out a month a couple months earlier and was such a massive dumpster fire that Bethesda wanted to get people to stop talking about it.
This Christmas day will mark the same amount of time between the release of the Elder Scrolls 6 teaser and the current day, as the release between Skyrim and that trailer. Let that sink in.
Why we haven't got elder scrolls 6 yet? Bethesda have been milking skyrim and it's modding community for years why bother releasing 6 when you don't have to do much? Also they made that empty waste of space game. Bethesda is a lazy greedy company reliant on its modding community to improve and finish its games and I'm picking free mods the ones not clearly broken will be a thing of the past once these clowns release it
They have protracted Skyrim's success to the point that It's been like 13 years since we got a new game. Even they said they will never be able to fulfill the expectations that we rightfully demand and maybe it's better if we'll never get an TESVI. There are so many things they could fuck up such as: Lore Art style Gameplay Character design Roleplay elements Immersion elements I'm worried, because I love this series, perhaps it's my favourite fantasy series of all time.
I was just starting high school when Skyrim came out. Now I’m 5+ years into a career and buying a home. Literally the child in me is longing for the series follow up. Too bad it’s probably going to be a let down.
If you told me in 2011 that the next elder scrolls still wouldn’t be out by the end of 2024 I would’ve been so devastated. Not that I’m not now, but man. WTF also holy shit I had no idea ESO has made so much money!!
Fun fact that I like bringing up. There is a bigger gap between Skyrim and ES6 than there is between Morrowind and Fallout 4. If the Elder Scrolls 6 comes out in 2026, which is fairly likely, there would be as big of a gap as the one between Daggerfall and Skyrim. I just want a picture of a tree or something at this point.
If I remember correctly if we use the same development time they needed for Starfield, Fallout 4 & 76 and Elder Scrolls 5 they will need roughly 5-6 years starting from the release of their latest game, which would 2023s Starfield. So yeah more likely going to be 2028-29. This also matches the Statement of Phil Spencer who in 2023 said that TES6 is still roughly 5 years away. This would be a 17 to 18 year gap between Skyrim and TES6, which is the same amount as between TES: Arena and Skyrim.
There's a certain point where longer game development duration goes from eliciting optimism, due to a perception that the game will be more polished, to pessimism due to the likelihood that major issues at the studio are the cause. We are well past that threshold for ES6.
Yeah......the mod community got tired of waiting around oblivion is coming to Skyrim next year. Like the whole game , it's gonna be a similar build to the tale of two wastelands mod for fallout 3 and Vegas.
What I think is that maybe Star Field was just a warmup for the team to learn about the new creation engine, and the Elder scrolls 6 will be the main goal...hopefully
Deep inside me I still have the small hope that they'll pull it out. Starfield is not that bad for the first time they're trying such ideas... On the other hand, imagine a hand-crafted world and it's not gonna be about exploring hundreds of empty planets. They must get it right. Perhaps that's just me trying not to lose hope though
@@kaydotcontent Yes it is that bad. Starfield shows 2 things. 1. That Bethesda does not understand what makes their games great. They focused all their effort and resources in the completely wrong direction. Most people knew Starfield was going to be mediocre at best the moment they announced 1000 star systems. There is just no possible way to make that into an engaging and meaningful game experience. 2. The DLC showed that even if they try to recapture that magic and make a classic Bethesda style focused experience, they are just not capable anymore.
I feel like 2026 should be the year it comes out. I don’t expect it in 25 and I hope they wouldn’t rush it. As long as 6 has around the same amount of content that Skyrim had then it’ll be fine. Bethesda doesn’t need to go above and beyond for ES6 they just need to enjoy making it and adding as much as they want. It’s been a long wait but if it takes longer to get it to the same level as Skyrim so be it.
they should go above and beyond, but the fact that they haven't achieved anything even close to skyrim or new vegas. Well id be happy if they just made something as good as skyrim at this point
It's taking so long because Bethesda needs another big fantasy movie or tv show to ride the coattails of. Oblivion had Lord of the Rings, Skyrim had Game of Thrones...hell, a lot of things in Morrowind were approved because Todd could be convinced it was copying Star Wars' homework. Now that Hollywood is just recycling old ideas, Bethesda has nothing to go off of.
They just need to make something half decent. Expectations were high in 2013. Now people will be happy with something just a little more fun than starfield
Hopefully Starfield will get at least as much love as Fallout 76,for those who played it,would have been nice to see Morrowind and Oblivion redone (more recently)...
Nolvus and skyblivion are what got me to wanna move to PC ngl, same with Star Wars Genesis (starfield) I honestly trust the modders more than the actual devs at this point
@@KORR nah not yet need a pc, but I’ve seen videos definitely looks good enough as a Star Wars rpg. Makes me wish Bethesda actually did a Star Wars game instead of Ubisoft
Oh, come on. Face it - there will be no Elder Scrolls VI. Bethesda have so far found much easier ways to make money. ESO is an MMO which brings money constantly through subscriptions. Fallout 76 is an MMO which brings back money through subscriptions, cash shop, and so on. These "products" were dirt cheap compared to Skyrim or Fallout 4, made by "B" teams without the need of any innovation. Starfield was a feeble try to make a Fallout-alike, in space, so there is no immediate comparison. It was a flop, but it can get another couple of years for Bethesda to do exactly nothing. Then? Todd probably retires rich and famous, the rest of the company - not much is left - is dishonorably disbanded by MS.
There's a huge difference between Blizzard+ Bethesda and Square Enix in multiple ways. Bethesda is split into 3 companies (Bethesda/Bethesda softworks publisher/Zenimax), Blizzard merged with Activision and is now owned by Microsoft, so oops, running under another 2 companies like Bethesda is. Square Enix is still able to churn out Final Fantasy games and other games, while MS has to buyout game IP's rather than making their own (it's been years since Fable, years since the last Gears of War, years since nearly anything from them that wasn't utter trash). Blizzard is doing the same thing as well (Starcraft, Heroes of the Storm, Warcraft RTS, etc). Just having an MMO doesn't mean all games are stifled to hell, it just means the company is too big/ doesn't care to do anything else due to risk aversion (which is why MS just buys what works and then messes it up spectacularly). Bethesda doesn't have the rights to tell Zenimax what to do, because Zenimax is the parent company and on top of that parent company is MS, so ESO cannot just be "shut down" to get ES VI to come out any faster, that's not how this works. If anything, it's not the "golden goose", because I see plenty of companies out there with their respective golden gooses and they still manage to churn out games. The only ones who have golden gooses and aren't churning out games are the bigger studios or bigger publishers who have so much money, they feel no need to do anything (T2, who owns R*, who makes GTA, MS who owns Bethesda/Zenimax/Blizzard/Activision, Epic who owns Fortnite, that also owns Unreal Engine, one of the most used engines on the planet). ESO doesn't need to be shut down to get a new ES game, let alone faster. It's the creation engine that needs to go, and Zenimax needs to stop being the parent company, and MS needs to be broken up like Google will be, so the pressure can then be put back onto those respective studios and publishers (take a lot of what MS owns currently and split it up, and watch them having to work much, much harder to get anything done).
My friend said to me in the 7th grade we'd never see another elder scrolls release after eso came out and its been 8 years now im starting ti think Jason was right
my most anticipated game of all time. people are saying it will be bad because starfield was bad but starfield was bethesda trying something new. as long as we have ONE planet and obviously they know what they’re doing with TES i think we’ll be fine. It’s like saying someone isn’t good at playing the guitar but instead of telling them to get better, you say to them: “Well you were bad at the guitar so you will ALWAYS be bad at the guitar, don’t bother trying to improve.” The fanbase is indirectly telling Bethesda to give up 💀
Don't get your hopes up, it will be garbage. Skyrim was a very mediocore game with no depth. Weak story weak combat shit RPG elements. Mods and nostalgia only high points. Check out the Tainted Grail Fall of Avalon that looks and feels like it has a soul and Passion behind it
"Trying something new" wasn't the problem with Starfield. Items were bad, quests were bad and illogical, no meaningful consequences for anything, completely useless base building. These didn't have to be this way. Nothing new in Starfield forced the quest designers to produce crap. It all goa back to how Bethesda is managed. As long as Todd Howard and his incompetent cronies like Emil "I don't care about the story" Pagliaruo as lead writer are still in charge TES6 will end up just as terrible as Starfield. What Starfield showed however is that current Bethesda is incapable of making a compelling game and that a big part of the compelling nature of fallout and elder scrolls was other people's design and lore work.
Obsidian wanted to make a spin-off game in the Elder Scrolls universe, Bethesda rejected the proposal. This event is evidence to support your theory. Uninterrupted cash flow with TES Online above all else!
I don't even want it until Bethesda changes DRASTICALLY. They need a change in management, to stop using the creation engine & to take a much different approach in their game design. Bethesda has been making the same game with a different coat of paint since oblivion and its just not good enough for people anymore.
I disagree with the take on Bethesda making the same game over and over again. Their game design was never the problem because games like Skyrim, Oblivion and Morrwoind, still hold up while Starfield aged in week. The problem is that they keep stripping away what makes their game design good in favor of some experiment and it kept getting worse with each game on top of just in general regressing their game design. With Fallout 4 they experimented with a voiced protagonist which messed up the dialogue system and made roleplaying harder. With Fallout 76 they tried to do multiplayer for an engine that couldn't handle it and resulted in one of the most infamous and buggy releases in gaming. Now with Starfield they took out meaningful exploration and decided to make a new boring IP that nobody is interested in. If they had simply taken the feedback they got from Fallout 4 and focused on making Fallout 5 and ES6 an improvement from Skyrim and Fallout 4, they wouldn't be in the mess that they are in or at the very least, they wouldn't be a complete joke now.
I believe it was three years from Morrow to oblivion and then four years from oblivion to Skyrim, it is now been 13 years since Skyrim with no end in sight. This company has tremendously letdown their audience, and no one should even be talking about them anymore. Anyone who is in middle school playing that game is now out of college and in the workforce probably with the family lol
I was 13 years old when Skyrim came out. When TES 6 comes out, I’ll be 30-31 years old. Shit is ridiculous coming from a multi-billion dollar game company with 4 studios, backed by Microsoft with 2 powerhouse IPs cash cows in their arsenal. At least give us some goddamn spin offs.
Man i remember the first time I went to buy Skyrim I saw a trailer about the vampire dlc and how you can also be a werewolf so I went to GameStop got it and got thru the intro and as soon as I got out the cave got attacked by a wolf 😂 and the second time ran into the camp of bandits right by the cave exit in the beginning and immediately raged quit 😂😂😂 never to pick it up until like a year or 2 later 😂😂😂
I wonder if the setting for the next game will be in the borderlands between High Rock and Hammerfell, like Daggerfall. I feel that Bethesda want to explore a new biome (deserts) but feel that a move towards the Middle-Eastern/African setting would be too alienating for fans of Skyrim and Oblivion who have come to associate Elder Scrolls with a Medieval European aesthetic. A game set between the two realms would kind of solve this problem, while also being a 'nostalgic blast' for anyone who played Daggerfall nearly 30 years ago. Perhaps a 2026 release (highly unlikely) would serve as a type of anniversary reference too.
I was never one of these people who were hyper-addicted to skyrim. Beat it once and then fucked around dor a few ours a couple of different times. Loved the game but my bar is pretty low, genuinely only want skyrim with a couple new features and upgrades. Its gonna be hard to disappoint with the new release
You want to know why, listen I tell secret. ITS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL BUYING SKYRIM!!!!!! Ok, actually its little more complicated. 1. Bethesda knows the expectations 2. Bethesda doubts that they can deliver 3. Elder Scrolls Online/Fallout 76 are MASSIVELY MORE PROFITABLE than basically any single player game they could make. 4. Fallout Shelter was a massive success (at least as far as RIO) There is no longer any incentive to make Elder Scrolls, they can't win, expectations are way too high. If the Elder Scrolls 6 is anything less than THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME, they are done, ES6 is their last chance. They have burned all their good will. The future of Bethesda hinges on this game. Microsoft is bankrolling this now, they own BGS, do you really think after Starfield they will suffer another failure. BGS will be shut down if ES6 isn't AMAZING, and to be clear that means sells a shitload of copies and makes a ton of money, not AMAZING as in its a good game, Microsoft doesn't give a shit about that part.
I really have no clue how many morons are leading the AAA companies for not realizing literally half the world wide gamer community is begging for ages to get a good AAA multiplayer RPG.
ES6 will be a conglomeration of DEI, Emil’s tremendous writing, piss poor optimization, a push for creations, horrible mainline and side quests that will still look 10 times worse than a fully modded Skyrim Hope you’re ready 😂
@@mn7306 We'll see once it's released. Current hopium is Bethesda's claim they are worried they wont meet diehard fans expectations isn't just code for "we are infiltrated".
I almost think that they should have outsourced production on ES6, which makes me wonder where are their profits going? I would think between the success of ESO and all the various releases of ES5, they would be able to expand and have a second team of developers...
I just hope and pray that when it does come out, it isn't any woke nonsense and they make a wide world with depth and an actual intriguing story and characters with fun quests. Please Bethesda just make a good game when it come out 🙏
Bethesda feels like a studio that would benefit from having games released more fast from having different teams for each IP because their games sure feel like it is consistently made with quantity over quality in mind. There's no way Starfield should've taken 5-6 years with the way the content is snore inducing
I was hopping when Oblivion came out each DLC would be another province, They could still done that with Skyrim too so we would in the end have the whole of Tamriel to adventure in. I watched a video not long back in which a Guy stated to a point true, the Tech advance's from Morrowind to Oblivion to Skyrim where leaps and bounds, but have slowed quite a lot in resent years, SO Beth could in fact make a base Elder Scrolls world and put out a year or two later a game sized DLC that built on that expanding that world and another a couple of years after and so on and still make great money based on the same tech and still be bloody awesome and maybe even return modding back to what it was back in the Morrowind, Oblivion days, a way for young up comers tp learn 3D skills for free and get known. sadly by the time we get the next game I'll maybe be to ole to play it and even Gopher will to too ole for me to watch rofl
Gotta love watching my dad play Skyrim on the PS3 when i was like 5 to going into college for meteorology and not even knowing when Elder Scrolls 6 will release
From what I understand, they didn't want to just be the studio that alternates between TES and Fallout because it becomes creatively limiting and the games can quickly become turgid and samey. I know many will say that all their projects since F4 have been terrible but I'd argue that F76 actually was nowhere near as bad as people complained about, even in the beginning, and Starfield is a new IP that as well as needing to find itself also struggled with its extreme scale. How do you fill a galaxy like that with enough content that it doesn't begin to feel empty? From a technical perspective, there was little inherently wrong with Starfield.
While I enjoyed some aspects of starfield I’m mainly pissed that starfield was the reason we haven’t gotten an elder scrolls 6. Maybe it’s for the best starfield struggled and got well deserved criticism that I hope will influence Bethesda going forward.
That’s like saying a drug dealer can’t make more money cuz he’s selling more crack than heroine lol that don’t make sense, just cuz a company has more than 1 product, it doesn’t mean they will lose money. Your comment makes no sense bro.
After SO many big-budget movies, shows and games have BOMBED these last couple years.. I think studios are starting to become gun shy. It's simply safer to delay, delay, delay (and keep your job another year or two!)
The biggest issue was that Bethesda committed to Starfield. Todd Howard specifically said that ES6 wouldn’t release until after Starfield, and that certainly implied that their entire team was focused on it, while a smaller portion started small bits of ES6. It would not be so sour if Starfield was successful, and if Oblivion had some sort of graphical update (not Skyblivion). Now, people are questioning whether ES6 will even be worth it… that is not the preconception we want. It means people will go in thinking it’s bad without even playing it. I’m calling it now - the game will be AMAZING - but it’s going to get thrashed around so hard that people will review it poorly. Good luck, Todd.
Counterpoint: MMO players are a different subset of players than Skyrim/ES6. Multiplayer online games and single player RPG are completely different games.
He did pretty well make sure the Amazon Fallout TV series was done proper but go ahead cry and say stupid shit so others can validate their frustration through hate like a child with you.
I kind of see the ESO curse as a potentially good thing. If ESO is making steady money. It doesn’t put as much pressure on the development of ES6 (clearly). But often we see games come out being shells of what they could have been because of time constraints and investors/publishers wanting their money asap
Yeah, but that also means the single-player games become a side objective to them. Basically, putting their other projects on the side burner, none of the people working on it, will be passionate about it. Because all that effort goes to ESO and 76. The game ends up horrible, just like Starfield.
At this point... idk if im even excited for it. Used to be a huge Bethesda fan, but they don't seem to be learning any lessons from their mistakes. Not convinced anymore that ES6 will be great enough to warrant just a huge delay.
Bro we got Gta 6 before Elder Scrolls 6😭
Any wagers we'll get GTA 9 before the Elder Scrolls 6?
And rockstar only made one game between them… so yea obviously.
@@TheParagonIsDead And the games Bethesda has released are basically just Skyrim with different paint, so we ain't counting those.
@ god way to invalidate hundreds of thousands of hours of work.
Those games were all completely 99% from scratch. Dude what are you on?
Well, that's not surprising. But don't worry, ES6 will be out before Star Citizen officially releases.
I seriously can't understand why no AAA studio has made a game as in depth as RDR2 but in a fantasy style like Skyrim with all the loot systems and character building aspects. It must be incredibly difficult to make because the gaming community is literally begging for a game like this and it's guaranteed money.
Have you never played The Witcher 3 or Dragons Dogma?
Maybe not a fantasy, but have look at Kingdom Come 2
Baldurs Gate 3 bruh, if you count it
The replies to this are fair, but I think Crimson Desert might be trying to do that
None of these mentioned games are even remotely close to a Bethesda RPG.
>1st person
>Full created character
>Level skills by using them
>Fully open world
>Fully lootable NPCs
Make it happen, someone, for the love of god.
Whats worse is knowing it will be made by current day Bethesda. The Elder Scrolls 6 will probably be such a disappointment
lol i was about to say they gona make a 76, but they have eso. and its actually really really good. lol
It will be fixed by mods as always 😂
@@el_Veylari mods couldn't fix starfield
I hate to agree. But you make a good point. I'm pretty sure, like all Western Devs" they're infiltrated by wokie 🤡👹🐋💩 freaks. That only care about genderless activists b.s. like making all Woman characters look trans and ugly. With huge chains and no 🍑.
That's said. I'll still hope they fire all the freaks. And make the kinda Elder Scrolls all us want. I want them to push A.i again. Line they did in Oblivion. When NPCs would pick up swords you left in the shop and equip them. You could feed your pet dog. See an NPC hunting deer in the woods 🏹 🦌. And No "FKING! PRONOUNS!!" Haha
@@you_tube6733right. Most of us don't want to play 11 year old games though.
If they make an ESO 2. I'll play it for sure.
ESO had the IP making money this whole time. If ESO would have died they would have pulled it back to life with another game quick af
ESO is a pretty good mmo tho, I hate that Bethesda puts so many resources into it but I enjoy it
honestly i don't think ES6 will come out, instead what we have to look forward to is mods such as skyblivion and skywind, these are sort of recreations of the beloved older elder scrolls game in skyrim's engine and mechanics, these mods have been worked on for over a decade now, skyblivion is going to come out for the full release to the public in 2025 just around the corner here, so we at least have that to play this next year.
the thing is i don't think it's smart to even look forward to what bethesda is planning, the modders often make better products for free while using Bethesda's very engine to make these creations, i mean have you heard of fallout London?
that project released only a few months ago and it's getting regular updates daily and a lot of ppl are loving it, it seems to have better writing than bethesda does in their games lately, so again, it's the modders we look to for new gaming experiences, because these days bethesda doesn't seem to be able to get to the level that modders often reach in their own gaming engine, it's likely why bethesda tries so hard to get the modders on their side because they know they are more often than not beat by the modders of their own games.
so don't dwell on what bethesda is going to make, instead look forward to what the modders have in store for us, because bethesda never seems to hit the mark that players want from them these days.
@@OfficialNice a decent mmo but a bad elder scrolls game
@@5226-p1e What blows my mind is why don't they just hire the modders? They do such a great job with limited resources and your company is essentially creatively bankrupt. Fresh ideas on a budget seems like a no brainer.
@@thefreshvince879 Not even a decent MMO. Played it during beta, it was shite, played it in 2017 and it was shite, played it in 2020 and it was shite.
The only good thing about it is that console players get to experience an MMO, but making it console compatible is also its detriment.
One thing for sure, the music is going to suck without Jeremy Soule
Sadly
Yep
It’s gonna suck
It's not gonna suck it's literally just not gonna be the same
There was a time before him and it was still good music wise
@ yeah the Daggerfall music was great but we’re not in the era of midi
They’re gonna get inon zur again and the soul of elder scrolls is Jeremy
It’s gonna suck
wait he quit bethesda😕
I genuinely believe I’m gonna be in my mid 30s by the time it comes out and skyrim came out when I was 10
Same , my Life is going pretty well regardless but there’s this empty void that I can’t fill with anything else. I yearn for it . I have fantasies of us fans getting together with pitchforks and storming bethesda hq ultimately killing Todd howard and ushering a new leadership.
You are. Its probably coming out in 2028. They just got started on it. Trust me it will be worth the weigth since they were putting most of their resources in Starfield but telling by Starfield graphics, ELDROLL 6 will be amazing with mods.
Bruh I am already in my mid 30s and have a wife and kids. I played oblivion when I was 19 and about to start college. Odds are I will be playing TES 6 when my kiddos are old enough to understand the lore.
@@saimedi2100 Its coming 2026-2028, I'll be 20 by 2028 and was four years old when Skyrim came out. Todd wasted me life away.
They've made us wait 13 years and counting and if that's not heartbreaking enough, seeing the current state of bethesda just shatters your hopes of seeing a new beautiful world to immerse yourself completely...
Remember when it was early 2000's and they were about broke, they spent their last energies in making the ultimate game and that saved them? The game was so good that players loved it even today. They can't stop loving it. That was Morrowind. Players helped Bethesda come back to life, but then they started getting greedy and this is now how they pay them back after all these years... TES is their last chance. It's their most important IP. It's one of the most iconic videogames franchise ever.
I don't even wanna look how it turns out...
Type "nolvus v6 modlist". Thank me later
Sense Microsoft bought them they don't need to worry about money because Microsoft will never shut them down because they are Bethesda
Damn bro is emotional
@@AngerMaker413 guess you never cared about something in your life
Todd looks like he aged 10 years between the release of Starfield and now
it was the thing he wanted to make so bad that he didnt care about anyone who actually wanted to buy it
@@thefreshvince879 Yet it was there most succesful launch to date and is still doing great! Explain that with actual facts!! No here say from grown children crying online!!
@@jmangames5562 There was hype for a new Bethesda release, so a lot of people bought the game.
It's also their worst user-rated game on Steam (so far)
I have no idea why they even gave us the teaser in 2018. Years have already gone by since then 😭
Because Fallout 76 came out a month a couple months earlier and was such a massive dumpster fire that Bethesda wanted to get people to stop talking about it.
This Christmas day will mark the same amount of time between the release of the Elder Scrolls 6 teaser and the current day, as the release between Skyrim and that trailer.
Let that sink in.
@Miracle7Seven 🤦♂️
@Miracle7Seven you're wrong
this is mind blowing
If you can even call that piece of shit 5 second clip a Trailer .
Angst. Bitterness. Despair.
Why we haven't got elder scrolls 6 yet? Bethesda have been milking skyrim and it's modding community for years why bother releasing 6 when you don't have to do much? Also they made that empty waste of space game. Bethesda is a lazy greedy company reliant on its modding community to improve and finish its games and I'm picking free mods the ones not clearly broken will be a thing of the past once these clowns release it
They have protracted Skyrim's success to the point that It's been like 13 years since we got a new game. Even they said they will never be able to fulfill the expectations that we rightfully demand and maybe it's better if we'll never get an TESVI. There are so many things they could fuck up such as:
Lore
Art style
Gameplay
Character design
Roleplay elements
Immersion elements
I'm worried, because I love this series, perhaps it's my favourite fantasy series of all time.
Skyrim came out when I was a sophomore in high school
I am now 30 years old
Jesus christ
Ok calm down kid
I mean, as soon as Starfield was released ES6 went into production, so at least the process has started.
We got the teaser trailer for ES6 years before Starfield came out.
@acetrainer5564 yeah, you're taking that out of context. Bethesda fans are obnoxious. That was them saying "STFU we'll get to it".
@@acetrainer5564that’s when pre development started.
cope above me lmao
Wasn't it leaked that they are working on an oblivion remake set to launch before TES6?
I was just starting high school when Skyrim came out. Now I’m 5+ years into a career and buying a home. Literally the child in me is longing for the series follow up. Too bad it’s probably going to be a let down.
Literally same here. Insane
If you told me in 2011 that the next elder scrolls still wouldn’t be out by the end of 2024 I would’ve been so devastated. Not that I’m not now, but man. WTF also holy shit I had no idea ESO has made so much money!!
Fun fact that I like bringing up. There is a bigger gap between Skyrim and ES6 than there is between Morrowind and Fallout 4. If the Elder Scrolls 6 comes out in 2026, which is fairly likely, there would be as big of a gap as the one between Daggerfall and Skyrim. I just want a picture of a tree or something at this point.
Hell it’s not coming out until 2027 at least
@@sherrybadertut7025 Well then we'd be getting pretty close to the gap between Arena and Skyrim which would be hilarious to think about
If I remember correctly if we use the same development time they needed for Starfield, Fallout 4 & 76 and Elder Scrolls 5 they will need roughly 5-6 years starting from the release of their latest game, which would 2023s Starfield. So yeah more likely going to be 2028-29. This also matches the Statement of Phil Spencer who in 2023 said that TES6 is still roughly 5 years away. This would be a 17 to 18 year gap between Skyrim and TES6, which is the same amount as between TES: Arena and Skyrim.
There's a certain point where longer game development duration goes from eliciting optimism, due to a perception that the game will be more polished, to pessimism due to the likelihood that major issues at the studio are the cause.
We are well past that threshold for ES6.
If its going to be anything like starfield maybe its best they dont, even the modders didnt want to try and fix starfield
That signing poster bit actually made me chuckle. Overall great video.
Yeah......the mod community got tired of waiting around oblivion is coming to Skyrim next year. Like the whole game , it's gonna be a similar build to the tale of two wastelands mod for fallout 3 and Vegas.
What I think is that maybe Star Field was just a warmup for the team to learn about the new creation engine, and the Elder scrolls 6 will be the main goal...hopefully
Deep inside me I still have the small hope that they'll pull it out. Starfield is not that bad for the first time they're trying such ideas... On the other hand, imagine a hand-crafted world and it's not gonna be about exploring hundreds of empty planets.
They must get it right. Perhaps that's just me trying not to lose hope though
@@kaydotcontent Yes it is that bad. Starfield shows 2 things.
1. That Bethesda does not understand what makes their games great. They focused all their effort and resources in the completely wrong direction. Most people knew Starfield was going to be mediocre at best the moment they announced 1000 star systems. There is just no possible way to make that into an engaging and meaningful game experience.
2. The DLC showed that even if they try to recapture that magic and make a classic Bethesda style focused experience, they are just not capable anymore.
Obviously.
This has literally been said 😂
@@Xalantorbro you have no idea what you’re taking about.
Starfield doesn’t have anywhere near to 1000 systems.
@@TheParagonIsDead where has that been said?
I feel like 2026 should be the year it comes out. I don’t expect it in 25 and I hope they wouldn’t rush it. As long as 6 has around the same amount of content that Skyrim had then it’ll be fine. Bethesda doesn’t need to go above and beyond for ES6 they just need to enjoy making it and adding as much as they want. It’s been a long wait but if it takes longer to get it to the same level as Skyrim so be it.
they should go above and beyond, but the fact that they haven't achieved anything even close to skyrim or new vegas. Well id be happy if they just made something as good as skyrim at this point
Many soldiers have died waiting for the release
I'm to the point where all I'm actually hoping for is that they released the IP to a decent studio.
-They have no idea where to go with the story.
-Most of the previous characters before the Dragonborn weren’t power fantasies
Nerevarine being a gigantic exception. The most chosen one of chosen ones. Nerevar is such a Chad.
It's taking so long because Bethesda needs another big fantasy movie or tv show to ride the coattails of. Oblivion had Lord of the Rings, Skyrim had Game of Thrones...hell, a lot of things in Morrowind were approved because Todd could be convinced it was copying Star Wars' homework.
Now that Hollywood is just recycling old ideas, Bethesda has nothing to go off of.
They just need to make something half decent. Expectations were high in 2013. Now people will be happy with something just a little more fun than starfield
If they partner with Larian I bet it would be amazing
Hopefully Starfield will get at least as much love as Fallout 76,for those who played it,would have been nice to see Morrowind and Oblivion redone (more recently)...
The fact that it's going to be 15+ years between Skyrim and the next Elder Scrolls already makes it a failure of a game.
Mint video bro, very well done!!! ❤
What's astounishing is when an entire gaming community want next elder scrolls.
but they lauched starfield.
why not just give what players want
i'm keeping myself entertained with Skyrim Nolvus, Fallout London, and soon... Kingdom Come 2. we'll probably have Skyblivion this year as well...
Nolvus and skyblivion are what got me to wanna move to PC ngl, same with Star Wars Genesis (starfield) I honestly trust the modders more than the actual devs at this point
@@Aetherius04 Genesis looks interesting... have you tried it?
@@KORR nah not yet need a pc, but I’ve seen videos definitely looks good enough as a Star Wars rpg. Makes me wish Bethesda actually did a Star Wars game instead of Ubisoft
Oh, come on. Face it - there will be no Elder Scrolls VI.
Bethesda have so far found much easier ways to make money. ESO is an MMO which brings money constantly through subscriptions. Fallout 76 is an MMO which brings back money through subscriptions, cash shop, and so on. These "products" were dirt cheap compared to Skyrim or Fallout 4, made by "B" teams without the need of any innovation.
Starfield was a feeble try to make a Fallout-alike, in space, so there is no immediate comparison. It was a flop, but it can get another couple of years for Bethesda to do exactly nothing.
Then? Todd probably retires rich and famous, the rest of the company - not much is left - is dishonorably disbanded by MS.
Yep, too bad they refuse to sell the title to a more capable studio. I'm sure Obsidian in 13 years since 2011 could've cooked a masterpiece
fallout 76 is not really a conventional MMO, like eso
@2138Dude but just like Bungie, most of Obsidians original masters are gone. Ship of Theseus has happened to so many developers.
Hahah the intro to this video is brilliant. Lol😂
Bro blinked
4:45 i don't know who made this but apparently diablo and bg III are mmorpg now.
There's a huge difference between Blizzard+ Bethesda and Square Enix in multiple ways.
Bethesda is split into 3 companies (Bethesda/Bethesda softworks publisher/Zenimax), Blizzard merged with Activision and is now owned by Microsoft, so oops, running under another 2 companies like Bethesda is.
Square Enix is still able to churn out Final Fantasy games and other games, while MS has to buyout game IP's rather than making their own (it's been years since Fable, years since the last Gears of War, years since nearly anything from them that wasn't utter trash). Blizzard is doing the same thing as well (Starcraft, Heroes of the Storm, Warcraft RTS, etc).
Just having an MMO doesn't mean all games are stifled to hell, it just means the company is too big/ doesn't care to do anything else due to risk aversion (which is why MS just buys what works and then messes it up spectacularly).
Bethesda doesn't have the rights to tell Zenimax what to do, because Zenimax is the parent company and on top of that parent company is MS, so ESO cannot just be "shut down" to get ES VI to come out any faster, that's not how this works.
If anything, it's not the "golden goose", because I see plenty of companies out there with their respective golden gooses and they still manage to churn out games. The only ones who have golden gooses and aren't churning out games are the bigger studios or bigger publishers who have so much money, they feel no need to do anything (T2, who owns R*, who makes GTA, MS who owns Bethesda/Zenimax/Blizzard/Activision, Epic who owns Fortnite, that also owns Unreal Engine, one of the most used engines on the planet).
ESO doesn't need to be shut down to get a new ES game, let alone faster. It's the creation engine that needs to go, and Zenimax needs to stop being the parent company, and MS needs to be broken up like Google will be, so the pressure can then be put back onto those respective studios and publishers (take a lot of what MS owns currently and split it up, and watch them having to work much, much harder to get anything done).
My friend said to me in the 7th grade we'd never see another elder scrolls release after eso came out and its been 8 years now im starting ti think Jason was right
Man's sounds like Johnny Bravo 👏 good video on all reasons why we did not get ES6 l..
my most anticipated game of all time. people are saying it will be bad because starfield was bad but starfield was bethesda trying something new. as long as we have ONE planet and obviously they know what they’re doing with TES i think we’ll be fine. It’s like saying someone isn’t good at playing the guitar but instead of telling them to get better, you say to them: “Well you were bad at the guitar so you will ALWAYS be bad at the guitar, don’t bother trying to improve.” The fanbase is indirectly telling Bethesda to give up 💀
I fwu lookin at the issue the way you do, i'm very eager for the 6th entry
Don't get your hopes up, it will be garbage.
Skyrim was a very mediocore game with no depth. Weak story weak combat shit RPG elements. Mods and nostalgia only high points.
Check out the Tainted Grail Fall of Avalon that looks and feels like it has a soul and Passion behind it
"Trying something new" wasn't the problem with Starfield. Items were bad, quests were bad and illogical, no meaningful consequences for anything, completely useless base building. These didn't have to be this way. Nothing new in Starfield forced the quest designers to produce crap. It all goa back to how Bethesda is managed. As long as Todd Howard and his incompetent cronies like Emil "I don't care about the story" Pagliaruo as lead writer are still in charge TES6 will end up just as terrible as Starfield. What Starfield showed however is that current Bethesda is incapable of making a compelling game and that a big part of the compelling nature of fallout and elder scrolls was other people's design and lore work.
@ yeah fair point
I just hope i will still be around when its actually out.
I got serious kicks watching this 🤣
Obsidian wanted to make a spin-off game in the Elder Scrolls universe, Bethesda rejected the proposal. This event is evidence to support your theory. Uninterrupted cash flow with TES Online above all else!
The True Detective shit at the beginning broke me
This was a very well made video and I could tell you have a real passion about Skyrim like most of us
I don't even want it until Bethesda changes DRASTICALLY. They need a change in management, to stop using the creation engine & to take a much different approach in their game design. Bethesda has been making the same game with a different coat of paint since oblivion and its just not good enough for people anymore.
I disagree with the take on Bethesda making the same game over and over again. Their game design was never the problem because games like Skyrim, Oblivion and Morrwoind, still hold up while Starfield aged in week. The problem is that they keep stripping away what makes their game design good in favor of some experiment and it kept getting worse with each game on top of just in general regressing their game design. With Fallout 4 they experimented with a voiced protagonist which messed up the dialogue system and made roleplaying harder. With Fallout 76 they tried to do multiplayer for an engine that couldn't handle it and resulted in one of the most infamous and buggy releases in gaming. Now with Starfield they took out meaningful exploration and decided to make a new boring IP that nobody is interested in. If they had simply taken the feedback they got from Fallout 4 and focused on making Fallout 5 and ES6 an improvement from Skyrim and Fallout 4, they wouldn't be in the mess that they are in or at the very least, they wouldn't be a complete joke now.
Literally your problem
Don't play it when it releases
@@planetofthegames2843 Your opinion is so irrelevent
@@MaizeEdits so irrelevant that you decide to tell me about it
Genius move
@@planetofthegames2843 Worst comeback in human history
Im just gnna wait for elder scrolls 7
7:24 This KILLED ME!! XD
I had to sub after that 😂That made me genuinely laugh out loud
I believe it was three years from Morrow to oblivion and then four years from oblivion to Skyrim, it is now been 13 years since Skyrim with no end in sight. This company has tremendously letdown their audience, and no one should even be talking about them anymore. Anyone who is in middle school playing that game is now out of college and in the workforce probably with the family lol
I was 13 years old when Skyrim came out. When TES 6 comes out, I’ll be 30-31 years old. Shit is ridiculous coming from a multi-billion dollar game company with 4 studios, backed by Microsoft with 2 powerhouse IPs cash cows in their arsenal. At least give us some goddamn spin offs.
I remember when they added the loot boxes 😭and removed all the good mounts from the store
Man i remember the first time I went to buy Skyrim I saw a trailer about the vampire dlc and how you can also be a werewolf so I went to GameStop got it and got thru the intro and as soon as I got out the cave got attacked by a wolf 😂 and the second time ran into the camp of bandits right by the cave exit in the beginning and immediately raged quit 😂😂😂 never to pick it up until like a year or 2 later 😂😂😂
I wonder if the setting for the next game will be in the borderlands between High Rock and Hammerfell, like Daggerfall.
I feel that Bethesda want to explore a new biome (deserts) but feel that a move towards the Middle-Eastern/African setting would be too alienating for fans of Skyrim and Oblivion who have come to associate Elder Scrolls with a Medieval European aesthetic.
A game set between the two realms would kind of solve this problem, while also being a 'nostalgic blast' for anyone who played Daggerfall nearly 30 years ago. Perhaps a 2026 release (highly unlikely) would serve as a type of anniversary reference too.
Anyone that associates the elder scrolls with classic medieval aesthetic is not a real fan. The lore and world is so much more than that.
I was never one of these people who were hyper-addicted to skyrim. Beat it once and then fucked around dor a few ours a couple of different times. Loved the game but my bar is pretty low, genuinely only want skyrim with a couple new features and upgrades. Its gonna be hard to disappoint with the new release
oblivion and morrowind are better. if you playd those you were hyped, then dissapointed with skyrim. lol.
@ yea tbf i loved oblivion much more than skyrim haha morrowinds beginning is by far my favorite out of all of them atmosphere wise
This video blew up! Your videos are really good man. Im definitely subbing. Keep em coming!!
After seeing Starfield, I don't really know if I care about Elder Scrolls 6. But Oblivion is on its way, and I've never played oblivion.
You want to know why, listen I tell secret. ITS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL BUYING SKYRIM!!!!!!
Ok, actually its little more complicated.
1. Bethesda knows the expectations
2. Bethesda doubts that they can deliver
3. Elder Scrolls Online/Fallout 76 are MASSIVELY MORE PROFITABLE than basically any single player game they could make.
4. Fallout Shelter was a massive success (at least as far as RIO)
There is no longer any incentive to make Elder Scrolls, they can't win, expectations are way too high. If the Elder Scrolls 6 is anything less than THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME, they are done, ES6 is their last chance. They have burned all their good will. The future of Bethesda hinges on this game. Microsoft is bankrolling this now, they own BGS, do you really think after Starfield they will suffer another failure. BGS will be shut down if ES6 isn't AMAZING, and to be clear that means sells a shitload of copies and makes a ton of money, not AMAZING as in its a good game, Microsoft doesn't give a shit about that part.
I really have no clue how many morons are leading the AAA companies for not realizing literally half the world wide gamer community is begging for ages to get a good AAA multiplayer RPG.
ES6 will be a conglomeration of DEI, Emil’s tremendous writing, piss poor optimization, a push for creations, horrible mainline and side quests that will still look 10 times worse than a fully modded Skyrim
Hope you’re ready 😂
To repeat what someone else said in another video:
"Bethesda is bad, but at least their bad doesn't come from pushing DEI agenda"
@@mn7306 We'll see once it's released. Current hopium is Bethesda's claim they are worried they wont meet diehard fans expectations isn't just code for "we are infiltrated".
why would you want it after seeing starfield
“cuz they’re still making it.”
I miss the elder scrolls.
Bethesda is very important to me and its sad to see what theyve become. I really hope they can figure it out.
My ball zack is gonna burst the day it gets a release date
This is my first video I've seen from you, love it man keep it up! Subscribed
He sadly passed away. rip
When Skyrim came out I was about 24 fresh out of college... Now I'm goddamn pushing 40 with 3 kids and still haven't got a sequel 😐
We need to stop buying new re-releases of Skyrim and boycott ESO until we get Elder Scrolls VI
why did the mmo list have baldurs gate 3 on it
I don’t want the next one to look ultra real. That’s all I ask. Something similar but better to Skyrim. Same story but continued
I almost think that they should have outsourced production on ES6, which makes me wonder where are their profits going? I would think between the success of ESO and all the various releases of ES5, they would be able to expand and have a second team of developers...
I just hope and pray that when it does come out, it isn't any woke nonsense and they make a wide world with depth and an actual intriguing story and characters with fun quests.
Please Bethesda just make a good game when it come out 🙏
Awesome video brother!
did you just assume their gender?
just let us cope in peace
At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if we got Elder Scrolls 7 before we got Elder Scrolls 6 😭
We’ve gotten 2 presidents in a half since they release that trailer
Bethesda feels like a studio that would benefit from having games released more fast from having different teams for each IP because their games sure feel like it is consistently made with quantity over quality in mind. There's no way Starfield should've taken 5-6 years with the way the content is snore inducing
They won’t release it because Bethesda knows they can not drop the ball of the elder scrolls series
I hadnt realized until now, but TES6 really is the new Half-Life 3.
Longer you work on it, more expectations go up....they made a BIG mistake
Fortunately for me, I'm still playing Skyrim now.
I was hopping when Oblivion came out each DLC would be another province, They could still done that with Skyrim too so we would in the end have the whole of Tamriel to adventure in. I watched a video not long back in which a Guy stated to a point true, the Tech advance's from Morrowind to Oblivion to Skyrim where leaps and bounds, but have slowed quite a lot in resent years, SO Beth could in fact make a base Elder Scrolls world and put out a year or two later a game sized DLC that built on that expanding that world and another a couple of years after and so on and still make great money based on the same tech and still be bloody awesome and maybe even return modding back to what it was back in the Morrowind, Oblivion days, a way for young up comers tp learn 3D skills for free and get known. sadly by the time we get the next game I'll maybe be to ole to play it and even Gopher will to too ole for me to watch rofl
Gotta love watching my dad play Skyrim on the PS3 when i was like 5 to going into college for meteorology and not even knowing when Elder Scrolls 6 will release
From what I understand, they didn't want to just be the studio that alternates between TES and Fallout because it becomes creatively limiting and the games can quickly become turgid and samey.
I know many will say that all their projects since F4 have been terrible but I'd argue that F76 actually was nowhere near as bad as people complained about, even in the beginning, and Starfield is a new IP that as well as needing to find itself also struggled with its extreme scale. How do you fill a galaxy like that with enough content that it doesn't begin to feel empty? From a technical perspective, there was little inherently wrong with Starfield.
Fallout 4 and starfield are the reason we haven't gotten the elder scrolls VI
While I enjoyed some aspects of starfield I’m mainly pissed that starfield was the reason we haven’t gotten an elder scrolls 6. Maybe it’s for the best starfield struggled and got well deserved criticism that I hope will influence Bethesda going forward.
That's the unpopular truth - ES6 release would eat away from the cash machine that's ESO. They see a single player ES game as a threat to ESO.
That’s like saying a drug dealer can’t make more money cuz he’s selling more crack than heroine lol that don’t make sense, just cuz a company has more than 1 product, it doesn’t mean they will lose money. Your comment makes no sense bro.
@@corvoriever539It may not make sense but that's still how they think
Good video brother but please upload in at least 1080p
After SO many big-budget movies, shows and games have BOMBED these last couple years.. I think studios are starting to become gun shy. It's simply safer to delay, delay, delay (and keep your job another year or two!)
The biggest issue was that Bethesda committed to Starfield.
Todd Howard specifically said that ES6 wouldn’t release until after Starfield, and that certainly implied that their entire team was focused on it, while a smaller portion started small bits of ES6.
It would not be so sour if Starfield was successful, and if Oblivion had some sort of graphical update (not Skyblivion).
Now, people are questioning whether ES6 will even be worth it… that is not the preconception we want. It means people will go in thinking it’s bad without even playing it.
I’m calling it now - the game will be AMAZING - but it’s going to get thrashed around so hard that people will review it poorly.
Good luck, Todd.
Counterpoint: MMO players are a different subset of players than Skyrim/ES6. Multiplayer online games and single player RPG are completely different games.
Remaster morrowind it’s already written just needs to be reworked, loads of people haven’t played it
At this point I would be happy with good remasters of the old games. I don't want the actual Bethesda to trying anything new for a while
I dont think were gonna get it... I dont think Tod has it in him...
He did pretty well make sure the Amazon Fallout TV series was done proper but go ahead cry and say stupid shit so others can validate their frustration through hate like a child with you.
I kind of see the ESO curse as a potentially good thing. If ESO is making steady money. It doesn’t put as much pressure on the development of ES6 (clearly). But often we see games come out being shells of what they could have been because of time constraints and investors/publishers wanting their money asap
Yeah, but that also means the single-player games become a side objective to them. Basically, putting their other projects on the side burner, none of the people working on it, will be passionate about it. Because all that effort goes to ESO and 76. The game ends up horrible, just like Starfield.
Listen yall we will never get game as deep as Skyrim or rd2 again
I just need an Elder Scrolls game that stretches all across Tamriel 😖
At this point... idk if im even excited for it. Used to be a huge Bethesda fan, but they don't seem to be learning any lessons from their mistakes. Not convinced anymore that ES6 will be great enough to warrant just a huge delay.
I’m kinda glad it’s taking so long. If it came out and was a let down like fallout and star field that would be worse
TES VI will be the last Bethesda game Todd Howard's gonna be involved.
I think the disapointment will be big.