Mini GP2 vs Audi A1 quattro, Megane R26.R and Focus RS500 | evo TRACK BATTLE
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- Tiff Needell and Richard Meaden test the new Mini JCW GP against the Audi A1 quattro, Ford Focus RS500 and Renault Megane R26.R on track. For more great car news and reviews, register for evo's newsletter here: www.evo.co.uk/reg
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Tiff Needell and Dickie Meaden track test the hottest cars of 2012. Part of evo magazine's 2012 car of the year test -- read the full story and discover the overall winner in evo magazine issue 176 on sale here: www.evo.co.uk/shop
Mini - best looking, fastest and good sounding too. Love it.
Minis are underrated. I bought one r53 for a cheap run around, couple of cheapish mods and I'm loving the thing . They can be pretty quick cars
They are great when it comes to handling, only thing that is very similar is Ford Fiesta which has little bit more loose rear end, easier to pivot around corners. Even the ONE versions are fantastic to drive. In between R53, R56, F56, R56 is the one to go when it comes to chassis, they are sublime. But reliability is horrible, those Prince engines are oil thirsty and have timing chain and GDI issues plus electrics aren't great too. Better to buy Fiesta ST. I have Fiesta and MINI. Fiesta is rock solid in compare.
I have an 02 base model with 115 bhp and that thing is a BLAST! It’s like a damn golf cart
Couldn't agree more. I've also bought an r53 recently and the thing is an absolute hoot. I can't keep the smile off my face when I drive it!
@@wellwh0 had a few fiestas do like my fords , prefer the mini allday I find with decent tyres they handle better and you cant best that charger whine. I've had my r53 couple years odd never had a prob fsh and it's only ever had tyres and brakes oh and a wiper motor. Some good ones out there
youngsta Young nah not my thing. mk7 Fiesta has much more cummunicative chassie in compare to r56, imo. But we all have different opinions and tastes, so who am i to judge ;)
@Bob yes Fiesta has twist beam, but it is great. Only benefit I see in compare with R56 that with independent rear r56 is more comfy on those very high but short speed bumps...also it has more stable rear end. But Fiesta is very predictive so that isn’t a problem.
(all in all Fiesta mk7 and R56 are great chassies, one of the best) 🙂
6:35 great car control over there..
Minis were built from the ground up to be a sports car that happened to be practical hatchbacks. That's what makes them great great cars to drive.
No they didn't are you mad?
Im in love with the Mini GP2. Thinking of buying one in the future :)
My uncle brought one second hand a couple of days ago can't wait to get in it
I own a GP I love it it's the most fun car I've ever driven. Miata, BMWs, audis, Mercedes. The mini is just too much fun
Terrific stuff - the Mini's a far more serious performance machine than I'd expected. As picked up in the article, maybe it's the graphics cheapening the look? Great video, guys.
The MINI GP is such an amazing car! I own one too and it's such a good fun machene :)
Hopefully I can take it to a racetrack one day to have a comparison of my normal video I made about it!
I love my R53 S
I never tire of watching Tiff enjoy himself behind the wheel.
R56 MINI, the last of the good looking and driving MINIs. The new ones are watered down and bloated, FWD BMWs!
RSR Auto true that. The GP2 got a fair bit of stick at launch for being 'soft' compared to the GP1 but if they make a GP3 (which I hope they do) it will really cement the GP2 as the epic car it is.
I still prefer my r53 to any of the mini’s
I just picked up a 2013 R57 JCW and I haven't stopped smiling all week. Honestly more fun than my 2006 Elise R and so much more comfortable.
R53 all the way for me. Made for nothing but being driven hard. As raw as it hets
I have an r56 and I love it it's so much fun
MINI know how to make a car. No question’s asked.
I have a question
Keep it to yourself then please.
@@GeoffreyCapes DON'T GET RUDE 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
He’s still not going to answer your questions! 😜
@@GeoffreyCapes who Cares I didn't need your stupid opinion anyway😀😀☺☺😊😊😅😅😆😆
About time the Mini got some air time. We hear all about Renault, Vauxhall, Citroen and Ford when the real hero hatch was mini all along and not surprisingly so.
That Megane is soo serious and planted, it looks the ultimate and true hot hatch!
Christ that Mini is impressive.
I have a mini countryman sd and even though its bigger it still goes round corners so well.
Enjoyable to watch folks run some streetable hot hatches at the limit and in such proximity. I would have enjoyed seeing all 4 cars on the track at once.
Evan Moon look up best motoring
A list Tiff Needell is 1 of the best steersman out today !
You gotta luv the Needles, the original Stig without the silly race suit & expensive Simpson lid.
dont fuck with mini on a track
Im looking to buy a Mini, now. But, I have to point out one thing. Having extra power is great, knowing what the surface will handle is up to the driver.
The little Minis have been doing very well at the SCCA Autocross races, the car kinda been dominant in Stock class here in America.
What a legend, Tiff is 61 years old!!!
In the market for a mini gp2 hence why watching this video, a slight tune on them adding 20/30 bhp and it can become a real weapon.
The mini is the best
Shame it looks like a dogs dinner.
I love how Low Weight can kill High Power
Anything with the words "Hot hatch" and "Tiff Needell" is going to be entertaining. Good stuff guys
Nothing will ever handle better than a MINI!
Actually like all of these cars. So telling that the RS500 is slower than the R26R. Love the Megane but that mini looks like a hoot!
Didn't expect to see so much oversteer from that Audi, and the lap time for the Mini was surprising too.
One of the best videos on this channel !
Thank you all very much for this video
Not because i own one, but the Mini is EPIC
Mini is always king of go kart handling.
I love this video. All these car channels and journalists hate minis for some reason especially the top gear chanel. They race the 4 door mini Cooper s against top performance competitiors
This video is exactly what driving pleasure is all about, great stuff !!
If I had to pick one of these four, I would buy the MINI.
Good point, but it looked as if the mini was a bit more fun.
Go MINI Go yeh !
Cool cars, great driving, brilliant banter = another fantastic Evo vid!
The "fight" at 4:33 is one of the most funniest scenes I'vs ever seen on youtube. Not only they're great drivers and know their shit about cars, they're also hilarious!!
Long life to the Mini!! Really good video guys. Continue with this amazing work.
I would choose the Focus RS500. Such a fantastic car!
they should invite tiff more often
The best youtube shootout I've seen in ages! Great production and spectacular driving! Keep it up EVO!
you have a good argument when you say that Audi and Merc are both not fun to drive. I'd argue that the manual shifter in an audi is pretty bad as well - feels rubbery and not precise. Audi is even worse at cornering due to the positioning of the engine in front of the wheels - audi without quatro is really a big turn off when trying to push on a twistie.
Mercs have a better ride quality than Audis (which are too firm) while BMWs offer the best in handling and still better ride than Audi.
i agree bro. audis are wonderful fun to drive, the awd is unrelentingly grippy, and very very reliable. ive had mine for a while now, and still love it. gets great fuel economy with the turbo 4 and nice power when i need it. AUDI FOREVER!
It always makes me laugh how the "legendary" Quattro system is always the slowest round bends. Audi, how about making cars that aren't so heavy and unbalanced. They always fall to pieces round a track.
They are not meant to be fast on the track, especially this A1 Quattro, there are only 333 of them out there and they are meant to be collected. It's still the most refined among all of them, yes it's not the best on the track but the best all rounder.
Fuck you
@@user-hs2hd7wp9g I disagree, The Megane is the best all rounder if you ask me.
Really, check out Audis IMSA , Transam, and Touring cars against supposedly "Better" RWD cars, it may change your mind, Audis dominate all these series with those "Slowest round bends" as you put it cars.. they are legendary because Audi proved that quattro was just as good on tarmac as they were on gravel.... you dont know much about motor sport do you?
probably because Audis always have way too much weight to actually be of serious use around a track. The GP doesn't even has rear seats iirc, meanwhile the A1 has what might aswell be the full list of extras of a regular A1, and a Haldex system on top of it making it even heavier. It also looks to be a bit taller and seems to have slightly bigger rims than the GP, of which none help with agility.
Heres the thing, the legendary Quattro system is obviously better for anything but dry weather. People should know this by now. If it was pouring rain, the A1 would easily demolish the Focus, and beat the megane and GP with ease.
The DS3 is fairly similar to the Mini, and the DS3 Racing is still surpassed by the Mini JCW GP. evo likely just wanted to bring the best of the best to this comparison.
MiniFTW!
fu
@Obi-Wan Kenobi fu
9.15 Tiff calls the Focus a Fiesta!.. sort it out Tiff lad!..
MORE TIFF PLEASE!!!!!!!
Tiff is the man.
Tiff should be in every automotive piece of video on UA-cam...actually, just every video
Surprised they used the R26.R instead of the new Meagane 265 Cup or Trophy..that Mini looks like an absolute lunatic! Not surprised the Audi lost, it's much to heavy and over complicate with the 4wd. It shows it's not really needed in a hot hatch.
It wasn't a boggo A1 they were driving. It was the A1 quattro - a limited run sporting £40k four wheel drive version.
Wow, says a lot. The boring A1 vs the epic Mini? Also, the Renault just wipes the floor with the Ford. Love it.
Great video! I really liked the format of this one.
The MINI JCW GPII !!
Tiff Needell overdrives EVERYTHING .. there's no subtlety at all to his driving ...
Conclusion is that you must have the right tool for the job at hand. Probrably in faster tracks with long straights the powerful, but heavier cars would do better than in that curvy circuit. Nice vid!
Reliable, affordable, fast, fun. They all have at least one but none have it all.
Apparently the Mini OWNED the Subaru WRX Sti and the Subaru Cosworth Type 25 STI Spec C around the Nürburgring. Google: List of Nürburgring Nordschleife lap times
Moto Guzzi
Yes, 8 minutes 23 seconds. Five years later it’s still an awesome car. Couldn’t be without mine, no complaints even when it rains haha 😆
hell of a video. Tiff is awesome!
06:35 is really great
Tiff & the Mini are akin each other. "Fast & Cheeky"
Needles and Meaden - great paring. Want to see these two race McLaren P1 and Ferrari F150 this year!
Now that was some real testing, superb video , although i am a fan of the FORD i admit the renault and Mini are better in track day point of view, still there are things like on a straight line nothing can match the FORD 4 mathcin it we need an audi rs3 or bmw m135i, also the sound of FORD is the best, so all these cars are good but hats off 2 Mini and Renault, Ford better diet and work on the mechanical slip differential to keep the rear stable, Audi as usual superb quality crap
Mini is running road legal track day tyres too
I love this fight was really fun to watch !
for me mini winner
Great video! True too, I own borh the a1 and the mini (s line and s). The mini is better for me. I owned a megane gt also. Great car.
A1 Quattro looks sensational!!!!
Awesome video. More like this please
So far.... I still think Mini the best.
The Megane 265 and the ST are more recent hot hatches yes, but I don't think they're as extreme as the RS500 or the R26R. And bare in mind both the A1 Quattro and the Mini JCW GP are limited run production cars.
The best car isn't always the fastest car, I've never driven the new mini in any specification but I can say something about the Renault albeit it in the non lightweight version (R26) and its a very confidence inspiring and feelsome drive while still remaining supple over bumps on our crappy b roads, it does lack power really compared to some newer cars but thats fine by me, as it feels fantastic....
Great video! I love seeing 'uncle' Tiff. That A1 is stunning but ridiculously expensive. Scirocco R still wins out for me though if it had more power it'd be perfect
Great Video
Fifth Gear has moved to the Discovery channel on Mondays & 8 pm (UK)
My first Porsche 911S weighed just a bit over 1,000 kgs.
Tyres and Conditions, The R26.R is such a fast car around a track.
The idea was nice and the video is cool, overall. But, if the Mini and the Audi are brand new, they should have used the Renaultsport Megane 265 and the new Focus ST. Just to keep all cars new.
0.2 of a difference between the Megane R26.R and Mini JCW GP..
I'd take the R26.R
Mighty Mini's
the mini and megane are straight up track cars whereas the focus and A1 are sporty regular cars...shouldnt be surprised by the results.
The A1 Quattro isn't really a regular everyday car, they were very expensive for badge snobbery reasons and were very limited in numbers
This is my kind of show!
Mini FTW!!!
mini rules
A Hot Hatch is supposed to be a small, relatively inexpensive car that looks good, gives enough performance (0-60 under 8 seconds) to put a smile on your face and is a practical city car. As soon as you go for Audi, BMW or these pseudo racers that are small mid sized two doors you are really missing the point. If you want near supercar performance on a budget get yourself an Evo X if you want a hot hatch look elsewhere, the mini cooper is the only real one they reviewed.
2023 now and the Renault has held its value well. That or the mini would be my choices. Ford is too nose heavy and Audi not worth the extra over a regular S1. Love the Mini actually. Looks a riot.
Really liked this video. Almost as good as the eCoty 2012 video!
4:55 there - megane has the a/c on. On track, it should be off, because that means all of the power is available.
Tiff is a fucking legend!!!!!
hey Tiff. Not Fiesta, it's a Focus
... but those rims! Just beautiful!
I had the GP2, i LOVE this car, but i wanna send it for buy a A1 quattro, it is ok for 2022 ?
Audi A1 and BMW Mini are the best machines here
Bmw's Mini is Superb
True, it would sell, but Focus was always a european specifically developed model. Just now it started to sell in the US in its 3rd generation after almost 15 years. And new Focus probably wont be available as the RS, ST will be the most extreme.
if Tiff would just calm down he might be a bit faster.
Power isn't everything! and it show's, all great Hot Hatch's though, I'd love to have seen the Corsa VXR Nurburgring there, partly because it's got great reviews and it would be interesting to see it against them on track, great Video EVO :)