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A very well explained starting procedure on a contemporary Skyhawk. What I didn’t hear/see though is the test phase of either the left or right magneto. During my PPL training days in the late 80s, my instructors always remind me of testing both the right and left magnetos, after starting the powerplant. to ensure either works .
I believe @seaknight1994 is speaking about the pre-taxi (meaning, before doing a run-up) mag check. As noted in my C182 training manual, “a ‘live mag’ check may be done after engine start-up, by selection of the left and right positions to confirm both are live. This confirms both magnetos are operational, it is not an integrity check (like run-up checks) as the engine is still cold. The purpose of the check is to prevent unnecessary taxiing to the run-up point should one magneto have failed completely.”
Very well done. Good instruction and clear video. Thank you. One thought, probably the vast majority of students won't encounter a fuel injected trainer much less with a glass panel. How about flying what most people will train in and end up flying, That is, manual priming and carb heat along with worn out flap handles and seat tracks. I really enjoy your training anyway. Good stuff. - PT
Thanks, PT! We're glad you're enjoying the videos! Since we're a part of Embry-Riddle's Daytona Flight Department, we develop these videos for the University, so we tailor them to the equipment our students will be using. We released them to the public in the hopes that flight students everywhere will find them useful in some capacity.
Great video but I’m wondering why you didn’t place the mixture to full rich when you first started it? Is that not a recommended method anymore? I was taught full rich at start up (unless you were at high elevation already) and then lean mixture as you climb. My field elevation was 423’ though so not too far from sea level. Thoughts?
It’s recommended that you lean the mixture while on the ground at low rpm to prevent the spark plugs from fouling but otherwise full rich for take off unless at high field elevation.
Well in older cars also I think engine priming and mixture control had to be done manually. If everything is automated on cars now then why not on these airplanes as well ? To make sure noobs don't take to the skies?
You need to lean the mixture so you get peak RPM after you start the engine. This will help prevent carbon buildup on the engine and helps it run more efficiently. The reason you do it after everything else is because the other things help you determine if the engine is running properly. For example, if your engine oil pressure does not go into the green after startup, it is wise to turn off the engine immediately to prevent engine damage.
You absolutely can make adjustments by pushing or pulling the mixture control, and many airplanes (even older Cessna 172s) use a basic push/pull type mixture control. The Vernier Type simply makes it easier to make very fine adjustments to the mixture. Some airplanes even have Vernier Type Throttle controls for the same reason.
W Late reply but once the engine is started the electrical pulses that drive the spark plugs come from the magnetos which are isolated from the rest of the electrical system. Turning off electrical power will not stop the engine.
Am I the only one still wondering why modern aircraft won't/don't start with an automotive-type ignition? Is it a safety thing, to make sure the pilot has checked flaps, radios and such? Surely it's *possible*.
It's a safety related decision. Automotive type engine ignition systems get their power from the battery, which is charged by the alternator. If the battery were to die, the ignition system also loses power and the engine no longer runs. If you've ever had an alternator failure in a car, you'll know that after about 30 minutes, the engine shuts down. Not ideal in an airplane. Therefore, we use magnetos for our ignition system as opposed to a distributor. In short, the magnetos generate power independent of the airplane electrical system. The electrical system is only used to provide power to the starter motor in order to turn the engine (and magnetos) to begin generating power. Once the engine is running, the battery and alternator are not required for the ignition system. Technically, you can start an airplane without an electrical system. Many antique aircraft are started by hand propping in order to get the magnetos generating electrical power.
Chuck Mahon annoying yes but at part 141 schools it’s part of the package. Practicing professional procedure and demonstrating it at progress checks is as important as flying the airplane for some programs.
That intro was beautiful.
yeah drake did a great job
Wow!!! I became a fan of this channel. Video making, narrations, animation, subject and everything is just world class standard. Finest lessons and video ever in UA-cam history
From beggerdesh?
A very well explained starting procedure on a contemporary Skyhawk. What I didn’t hear/see though is the test phase of either the left or right magneto. During my PPL training days in the late 80s, my instructors always remind me of testing both the right and left magnetos, after starting the powerplant. to ensure either works .
seaknight1994 precisely. Wouldn’t want the P leads on either to be open and slip past our inspection.
seaknight1994, thanks for your input! We check our magnetos before takeoff.
Form what I know you typically check the mags during the engine run up
Mag check is done during the engine run-up prior to departure.
I believe @seaknight1994 is speaking about the pre-taxi (meaning, before doing a run-up) mag check. As noted in my C182 training manual, “a ‘live mag’ check may be done after engine start-up, by selection of the left and right positions to confirm both are live. This confirms both magnetos are operational, it is not an integrity check (like run-up checks) as the engine is still cold. The purpose of the check is to prevent unnecessary taxiing to the run-up point should one magneto have failed completely.”
Yesterday, I bought the Cessna 172S and I didn't know how to start it. Fortunate to find this video 😀 now I'm able to start it correctly. ☺️
BTY great explain 👍👍🔥
Bought?....
I wouldn't buy a plane if I didn't even know how to start it... but you do you pal
maybe dcs? 😅@@mattz9268
@@mattz9268 you would if you had $$
Yup beacon navigation lights must be on when your flying don't forget about the strobes when you takeoff
Nowhere does it say this is required for vfr flight in the poh, maybe US legislation but not UK.
Very well done. Good instruction and clear video. Thank you.
One thought, probably the vast majority of students won't encounter a fuel injected trainer much less with a glass panel. How about flying what most people will train in and end up flying, That is, manual priming and carb heat along with worn out flap handles and seat tracks.
I really enjoy your training anyway. Good stuff. - PT
Thanks, PT! We're glad you're enjoying the videos! Since we're a part of Embry-Riddle's Daytona Flight Department, we develop these videos for the University, so we tailor them to the equipment our students will be using. We released them to the public in the hopes that flight students everywhere will find them useful in some capacity.
Thank you for the reply. I find plenty of useful information in your videos and am glad to have found your channel. - PT
Thanks again, PT! Glad we could help!
PT Johnson I am learning to fly with a Garmin G1000 in a 172, some schools do have updated equipment!
The intro made my day! Thanks for it! And now I will continue watching XD
You guys do such a great job with these videos
Accurate depiction of an instructor saying: “Oh yeah I forgot to tell you“ !
cessna 172 full cold start presentation
Love the video!, the intro was great, and then the student moving his mouth at the same time as the commentator lol
Very useful information and videos. Thanks!
Wow!Insightful and informative is an understatement.
This video is very helpful.
Very nice explained. Thank you very much.
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2) Close the door
3) Push the start button
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I wish my 2 stroke motorcycle was this easy to start.
Just a precautionary measure
Great video but I’m wondering why you didn’t place the mixture to full rich when you first started it? Is that not a recommended method anymore? I was taught full rich at start up (unless you were at high elevation already) and then lean mixture as you climb. My field elevation was 423’ though so not too far from sea level. Thoughts?
It’s recommended that you lean the mixture while on the ground at low rpm to prevent the spark plugs from fouling but otherwise full rich for take off unless at high field elevation.
It may be you were starting a carbourated aircraft, not fuel injected.
Well in older cars also I think engine priming and mixture control had to be done manually. If everything is automated on cars now then why not on these airplanes as well ?
To make sure noobs don't take to the skies?
Wonderful and very helpful
What is priming?
It means a rich mixture of fuel is pumped into the cylinders before running the engine so it’s easier to start
Why didn’t you put on the beacon light!!!!
Didn't know David Blaine was a student pilot.
If he was the pilot.. start procedure woulda been tapping a wand on the dash / immediate 10,000 ft cruise
what is the point of checking the RPM the last one on the check list ?
You need to lean the mixture so you get peak RPM after you start the engine. This will help prevent carbon buildup on the engine and helps it run more efficiently. The reason you do it after everything else is because the other things help you determine if the engine is running properly. For example, if your engine oil pressure does not go into the green after startup, it is wise to turn off the engine immediately to prevent engine damage.
Damn, 20 amps, that battery was dead
\What does the twist on the mixture do?
That is known as a "Vernier Type" mixture control knob. The twisting allows the pilot to make very small adjustments to the mixture.
But you can still make small adjustments from pushing it forward and aft right? is it just the fact that it makes it easier?
You absolutely can make adjustments by pushing or pulling the mixture control, and many airplanes (even older Cessna 172s) use a basic push/pull type mixture control. The Vernier Type simply makes it easier to make very fine adjustments to the mixture. Some airplanes even have Vernier Type Throttle controls for the same reason.
What if the master electric switch is turned off in mid-air? What will happen to the engine and the other electric components? Is it even allowed?
W Late reply but once the engine is started the electrical pulses that drive the spark plugs come from the magnetos which are isolated from the rest of the electrical system. Turning off electrical power will not stop the engine.
The guy reminds me of slogoman like if u agree
Am I the only one still wondering why modern aircraft won't/don't start with an automotive-type ignition? Is it a safety thing, to make sure the pilot has checked flaps, radios and such? Surely it's *possible*.
It's a safety related decision. Automotive type engine ignition systems get their power from the battery, which is charged by the alternator. If the battery were to die, the ignition system also loses power and the engine no longer runs. If you've ever had an alternator failure in a car, you'll know that after about 30 minutes, the engine shuts down. Not ideal in an airplane. Therefore, we use magnetos for our ignition system as opposed to a distributor. In short, the magnetos generate power independent of the airplane electrical system. The electrical system is only used to provide power to the starter motor in order to turn the engine (and magnetos) to begin generating power. Once the engine is running, the battery and alternator are not required for the ignition system. Technically, you can start an airplane without an electrical system. Many antique aircraft are started by hand propping in order to get the magnetos generating electrical power.
That makes perfect sense. Thanks for the insight!
Glad we could help! Great question!
There are many steps before taking off.
Can i get a zombies are coming checklist? Please hurry.
(Laughs like sloth from zootopia ) ha ha ha ha 0:25
172S w/G1000.....👍
Me: 172N w/legacy ARC (inop)...😢
why can't the prime process be automatted. it seems to be such a headache.
What even is priming and whats it for
Just put wings on my car.
Wow that's funny at the begining
A CESSNA 72
piper cherokee is easier to start lol
All those needless callouts are annoying
Chuck Mahon annoying yes but at part 141 schools it’s part of the package. Practicing professional procedure and demonstrating it at progress checks is as important as flying the airplane for some programs.
Rich kids these days ^^ Not even funny.
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