Traffic Patterns
Вставка
- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Determining how to enter and fly a proper traffic pattern can be a daunting task, especially while travelling 120 miles per hour through the air towards the airport! In this airplane, we help you hone your skills in entering and flying a well executed pattern.
www.erau.edu
Finally. A detailed and comprehensive explanation of traffic patterns. Thanks!
Ikr
I cannot thank you enough for these videos!
Thank god for you guys, I have my Cadet Ground school exam today.
This helped me tremendously. Thank you for posting it.
i've been able to easily do ifr since i got fsx BUT THANK GOD I FOUND THIS TUTORIAL BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE VFR VIDEO I'VE SEEN IS LONG AF
I learned what's an Upwind Leg!!! Thanks; I like your videos.
Actually though, what he says in the video is wrong. Any other ground school/flight instructor you attend/speak with will tell you that what this video calls the "departure" leg is actually the upwind leg.
Michael Swader The video is 100% correct! Your instructors were wrong. The upwind leg is offset to the left or right of the runway opposite the downwind, flown at pattern altitude, and is NOT the departure leg. Check the AIM before saying something like that. I am amazed at how many people I hear that get that wrong. It’s incorrect info that’s been passed down through part 61 training I believe. Part 61 just doesn’t have enough checks on it and bad habits/incorrect info gets passed along with no safeguard. Now here you are, passing along that incorrect info. Part 61 training needs to be fixed.
joel Perez The video is correct regarding the upwind. Don’t listen to Michael there.
joel Perez how do you effectively avoid traffic during uncontrolled field patterns? What if you are too close to another plane? How can you gauge if you are too close to not?
@@dylconnaway9976 h
It’s like taxing but in the air
Taxiing you mean?
@@Justicewarrior795☝️🤓
Upwind is also a legit call you may hear from ATC, like, "extend your upwind to the bridge on departure", etc...
Instructions unclear. Now I got my wife pregnant...
Mile high club?
You probably mistakenly stayed in the pattern instead of departing it.
@@Nutteri 😂😂😂
Nice easy to follow graphics and 3D models in this presentation.
I constantly see pilots, especially commercial charter pilots in my area completely ignore the common traffic pattern and 45° entry to the downwind. They will enter non towered fields on final, right or left base, whatever suits them. They often depart the same way.
At $1,000 an hour, they are saving $250 or so total doing it this way.
@@pilotavery I know full well why they do it. It’s just kind of BS considering most of them just finished being CFI’s where they drilled standard pattern entry into their students heads for a year or two, before going to another job and throwing it out the window.
@@AV8R_1also with the length of their final I think it doesn't matter since they're bass turn is going to be well outside of the airport's vicinity anyway so they may as well just go straight in as long as they are on comms
@@AV8R_1 training is supposed to teach you how to do everything by the book, in practice not everything is by the book. Obviously you should be flying a pattern at congested airports, but a straight in approach when it's not too busy and you're on radio and properly communicating and a straight and approach on a controlled airport is more than acceptable.
Agree. Just because we have protocols, dont assume everyone flying them. Some aircraft at non conrolled airports dont even have radios. That was the case in a recent mid-air collision near Ormand Florida
this was honestly a great explanation of traffic patterns. thanks for helping us understand it.
This is normally a spot on team but because you said standard I have to chime in as a CFI. You only gave some of the info. You depart the pattern at pattern altitude straight out or on the 45 not at an altitude of your discretion. You turn crosswind 300 ft bellow traffic pattern and turn downwind at pattern altitude. If your going to teach standard pattern procedures teach all the standard procedures. This is a common mistake by most instructors who fail to follow the FAR/AIM and omit the altitudes or should I say an example of primacy.. There’s also the AC 90-66A to further clarify. For you students make sure you verify procedures in the chart supplement to make sure the airport operates standard procedures or non standard especially pattern altitudes and traffic pattern. Never assume. Great video just not fully complete.
I’m to lazy to read that all
krazy sheep002 good for you
Thank you Embry Riddle. So sick of people calling upwind when on the departure leg. This is a good example of how training under part 61 just allows bad habits to be passed down without any checks. One CFI misunderstanding infects multiple new pilots. I never hear anyone get the departure leg call correct anymore.
Better tell that to the tower. Ha ha. Just after take off tower sometime s says "extend upwind, I'll call your crosswind" gee guess feds have it all wrong
It’s more the individual instructor not whether a person is 61 or 141. Many 141 instructors came from 61. I trained and taught at both. Part 61 cowboys rise up
Not all towers get it wrong. Most that I fly into would say continue flying runway heading. They would not say to continue flying upwind.
Really well explained with GREAT and simple animation ✨👍🏾
Thank you for properly identifying the Departure Leg
Only thing missing is procedure for entering pattern opposite the downwind side. The preferred teardrop entry and the alternate midfield crossover direct entry into the downwind.
This helps me to become a airline pilot thank you so much a wish to fly in the near future!
Helicopter pilots generally ignore all those rules to avoid messing up the airplane drivers air.
Helicopter pilots are a special breed. They fly nap of the earth then land on a taxiway. I hope to one day be one of them 😁
Helicopters have their own patterns. 500 ft AGL instead of 1000, downwind is 1/2 mile from the RWY instead of 1 mile. Standard is RIGHT instead of Left traffic. That allows helos to SEE (and avoid) the other, less maneuverable traffic (fixed wing planes).
They aren't "ignoring" the rules. They are following their rules. The rules that, like all the other rules, are designed to keep us all safe.
load of information, with your videos. Thanks.
I wish to study at Embry Riddle University sometime in the future
Ehhh.............now I see where I have been going wrong on my landings. I see at 1:37 that I should have been landing on my nose wheel first, I'll correct that on my next flight. Thanks so much. What a great instructional video for us all to follow.
I do wish the graphics were a little less "nose dive".
Perfect!!!! Thank you for posting this video, it has helped me so much!!💕💖
If an airport or airstrip has multiple runways, does each runway have it’s corresponding traffic pattern? Or do you just enter the one pattern using the one mile distance? Sorry if it’s a dumb question. Just doing some self study before I start my pilot training in Spring.
Each runway has a seperate pattern, as he showed when he drew the compass thing
At least that’s what I’m guessing
Perfect.physics.clean.clear.informative.thank.u.so.much.stuff🎖🌏🎗🎖verry.well
Excelente demostration ,with words and dipiction
The "upwind leg" in the UK is called the "Dead Side".
Figures
Thank you - I hadn't realised that we call it something different!
Departure is usually called Upwind. Atleast that’s how I was instructed
Awesome 👍 very informative and well designed
This needs to be a game
0:15
A bunch of students practicing touch and go
Lel
Small airports on a sunny weekend
hahahaha
I'm sure every pilot entering upwind leg will sing the go around song :D
Swiss001 remix? lol
We don't do the 45 degree join in the UK. It seems like someone is butting into the circuit and jumping ahead of the queue, causing confusion to the position of traffic. Ok if you are the only aircraft at the airfield.
What if you depart and another plane comes from upwind leg turning crosswind...how do you avoid collision?
I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps apply brakes and give crosswind plane (since he's to the right) time to pass.
Nice.. thanks for sharing....
The total disregard for standard procedure for exiting the pattern is a real problem. 90% of people I see are doing made-up "downwind departures," "crosswind departures"... Or taking off and immediately turning whatever direction they please, often directly head on into other traffic entering on the standard 45 to downwind.
The AIM advises us to climb to pattern altitude and then depart either straight ahead or in a 45 degree turn in the direction of the pattern. This is for a good reason - it separates you from traffic entering the downwind.
Instructors, start teaching people this stuff.
Very informative thanks
Try this at Innsbruck 👍🏻
What’s your name ,son That’s why some airports have special patterns.
great explanation thanks guys
very informative and a clear voice. liked and subscribed. Thank you
How convenient the pilot is always coming from the most ideal location for the downwind entry
There are "standard" ways to approach patterns. Runway flyover, and others. All of them get the pilot and plane into that "convenient" position of entering the downwind from the "most ideal" location.
Simply put, you fly TO that convenient location, via standard turns/altitudes/procedures, than enter the pattern.
Great video and graphics. Thanks very much.
That animation is so realistic. What software is used?
wow i learned a lot, thank you!
This is definitely better than the kings’
Best visual where! Thank you
You take the turn on the crosswind leg when you are 500 ft then from crosswind to down wind at 1000 ft
Thanks, very clear, easy to absorb.
Clean video mate!
This was really good! Thank you!
Thank you very much
How do you exit to the N or S if the runway is E and W? Exit 45 degrees L or R from the upwind and then find your direct course from the departure airport?
👍🏻👌🏻
How to handle a situation when incoming traffic is joining at 45 degrees and a plane is staying in the pattern and has taken off and has turned into the downwind leg?
pigslefats how do you effectively avoid traffic during uncontrolled field patterns? What if you are too close to another plane? How can you gauge if you are too close to not?
Departure is not part of the pattern that part is called upwind
That's what it used to be called. If you check the most recent version of the Airplane Flying Handbook you will see it is now called the Departure leg.
www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/airplane_handbook/media/09_afh_ch7.pdf
I’m practicing Flight Simulator 2020
Thank You!!!
You sound like the person that narrates the safety video played on airlines before takeoff😂, nice vid tho
Watch your base to final “stall”
Is auto pilot allowed to use during circuit pattern training?
Thanks a lot!! Very useful
**tries Traffic Pattern in FlightSim with friends**
Someone: “WTF ARE YOU DOING ?!”
Someone2: “No! Its not like that! Youre wrong, let me show you how its done”
Someone3: **crashed**
Inside me: “i made a mistake”
Flight sim pilots would do very well to watch this video. I hear FS pilots daily describe their "Traffic Pattern" as 10 miles away at 12,000 ft.
This makes everything a lotttttt simpler
ROGER THIS IS TWR control -R U READY FOR TAXIING ?
Oooooooh so that's why the controller has been screaming at me at FSX
Great stuff!
25 *Dislikers* are from FSX Steam Edition!!
Lol
Spin recovery at angle theta..
2:26, I know why you stopped the sequence there...
2:45 two 54-th numbers . against the rules=)
Thanks 👍🏼
I think I might try to program an NPC to do this in a flight sim in Unity. Should be challenging...
Japan, UK : On your left
USA, S. Korea : On your right
on 2:46 at ktmb , "traffic on 1 mile final cleared for takeoff no delay"
Very clear! Thanks a lot!
Really good video
so pattern direction on the map 3:34. RP 17 , 26 . not being a pilot , I'm assuming RP for Right Pattern. and can I assume 17 , 26 are runways. And if assumption is correct. can I also assume that there are at least two runways : 17/35 & 26/80. and if so would pattern be,
LP 35 , 80, to keep all trafic together or is it RP respectively?
One runway is going to have two designations; 17 (somewhere around 170 deg) and 26 are 180 degrees apart. You can also have 17 L (left) and 17 R, and possibly an intersecting runway like 21. This is where you would have non-standard traffic patterns, which you would have to become familiar with in each case.
Yes, there are 4 possible runways at this airport: 8, 17, 26, and 35. Patterns are left unless specified right. So, 8 and 35 are left.
Some people say that standard holding pattern is right turn this one says its left turn as standard. Who is correct or wrong??
Ahmad Sayyed it may depend on the country, what kind of airport it is, if theres obstructions on either side. Lot of factors.
Airwipe ohh ok, thanks for that
HOLDING PATTERN is not the same as TRAFFIC PATTERN. Standard holding pattern is RIGHT. Standard traffic pattern is LEFT. Holding patterns are usually done somewhere away from the airport. The pilot/plane gets into a standard holding pattern to allow traffic in front of him to vacate the area, land, etc. He will safely fly the racetrack pattern until ATC advises it's safe to exit THAT pattern and head for the TRAFFIC pattern.
Those Cessnas have the same regulation number! That's going to cause some confusion with ATC.
❤️
Great video.
Great videos!
subhash Chandra Bose, training , CEO , public works department, military engineering services , account subhash Chandra Bose
Okay UA-cam recommended
is this the ponte de sor airport in portugal?
What a great video. THX
Yes, I do this everyday 😭💀
Wich program did you use
The one with the spell checker!
Does the runway change direction when the wind changes
TJ Kennedy What do you mean?
Yes. Runway choice is (nearly) always dictated by wind direction. If RWYs are 27/9 and wind is generally from the east, RWY 9 would be the appropriate runway. If the wind then shifted to somewhere closer to 270 (west), then RWY 27 would become the appropriate runway.
Noise abatement is such bs. The majority of airports were there wayy b4 residences. Then people move close to airports and complain. Smh
Dumb comment. I have no problem with it. Not everyone gets to choose where they live, or their work schedule could change and something that never bothered them before is now an issue. Plus, you want to keep property values high and generate public support for airports (since the public pays for it). If you annoy them enough, you’ll lose the airport all together. Making people’s lives harder and potentially losing airport funding because “the airport was there first” is something a little kid would say bro and is just selfish. Pilots and airports are part of the community, and we gotta look out for our neighbors.
@@dylconnaway9976 dude relax. Fact of the matter is, most airports started off in remote sparsely populated areas. Then people moved in and started to complain. Don't want to deal with noisy planes, dont live close to one. Or better yet stop flying. There you go; no more noisy planes. Denver's international airport when it was built, was built about as remote as an airport can be. Just watch, in a few years time, people will move in close by , then complain.
jay C I’m sorry but the logic of, ‘Something was here first, this it shouldn’t have to change or adapt to change/progress’ is simply not a valid point. It merely states a fact then why something shouldn’t have to change when, from what I have heard, is based off of public funding (obviously private airports might be different) Also, I’m pretty sure certain noise abatement really isn’t that big of an issue for most pilots. Just going off of what I’ve heard. If you could explain to me as a slight newbie as to why it’s ‘BS’, I’d be glad to discuss. Keep in mind I’m a bit new though.
@@apolloxv8820 so move next door to a pig farm and complain about the smell.
Apollo XV Try telling pilots based at Santa Monica that Noise Abatements is not a big deal.
👍👍👍
what is compas Rose?
A compass rose is a visual depiction of a compass that shows the location of the cardinal directions (North, East, West, and South) relative to the position of the figure. They are often found on charts and sometimes even painted on the surface of an airport and are used to orient the user to the cardinal directions.
am taking notes lol
WHY AM I WATCHING THIS!!! I probably won't even get my pilots license.
i know some ATPs that would do well to watch this video 🙄
0:59
Generally does not apply to helicopters
Overhead join??
Tetraheedrohnez
🇧🇷