How To Start a Jet 🛩 CitationMax
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2019
- In this video, I walk through how to start the engines on a Citation M2.
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DUDE THANK YOU! I love these little technical insight videos, puts a lot of context on what you're up to, and why, while we watch you fly the aircraft. One of my favorite things is Tech Tuesdays on Corporate Pilot Life, and I'm appreciative to have a little "how to" from you. Good stuff!
I came back and watched this again. Nobody realizes what it took over time to get this process down to flipping a few switches and hitting a button or two. Amazing technology.
I have never started a jet (yet) but that process looks a lot simpler than most that I have seen. Thanks for sharing!
I think like everything else it gets harder when there is a problem that needs solving. My theory of everything from aviation to heart surgery is that it all has to be teachable and learnable or nobody would ever do it.
Loved it Max .. little things like this that most would never get to fully appreciate so up close and personal ... i love the fact that you understand this and are so willing to share it with us ... Thank you
Max, you're bringing back many memories for me when I see you're in Erie, Pa. A friend of mine owned the flight school behind you there in the North Coast Air building. His Sea Ray cabin cruiser was docked next to mine at Bay Harbor Marina's East Basin. Many great memories of all the fun times on Lake Erie & the surrounding area. I lived onboard my boat for 7 years, from mid-April through the end of September. A great way to spend my summers.
That was awesome!! I've always wanted to be a pilot and wondered how they started jet engines. Thank you for sharing, and safe journeys.
Thanks for the description. I really enjoy your videos.
KERI my hometown.Nice place as long as you can handle 100+ inches of snow a year. The tower audio in the background indicated there was the usual runway 6/24 crosswind.
Really cool video. A video like this really emphasizes the experience of running a small jet, much different with a starter-generator spinning the turbine rather than using bleed air - both visually with electronics dimming, and aurally with the type of sound the starter makes, and hearing the electronic fans spin down as a ton of power is sent to the starter-generator. It's definitely a feeling that I haven't seen a flight sim capture very well yet.
Thanks Matt! I agree it’s definitely different. Hopefully one day the flight sim community will catch up and get us to this level of immersion!
So informative and educational! Love it and I’m a huge fan! Thank you and blessings for your continued success 🙏🏽👍🏽🤩
Outstanding! Like these informative clips. MORE!
Thanks Max! Keep them coming!
its always good to watch your videos
Loves these types of videos Max! Hope to see more!
Fantastic Max! Awesome job...exactly what I was hoping to see in some of your vids. Thank you for posting. 👍🏼
Glad you liked it Jimmy!
Love seeing some tech videos like this. Thanks for sharing.
Cool video, Max! Such a great plane!
Very cool Max!! thanks for sharing !
Excellent, clear explanation. Thanks much.
Nice vid, Reminds of watching Steveo1 start his TBM but your's looks even easier. Thanks for sharing, very cool !
Enjoyed the video Max 👍🏼..Only thing want more...Looking forward to your next video as always......✈️
Always great, thanks Max.
Cool video
Great talk through
Thanks for the tech video really enjoyed it and want to see more this kind of videos
Very interesting. Man, you're definitely living the dream! Thanks for sharing this video.
Great video! Enjoyed 😎
Hello ✈️ yes I appreciate the basic training. 😊 Fly safe and enjoy! 👍
Thanks Max!! Love the tech vids...looking forward to a follow up...how to start a CJ3+!
I’ve been waiting to see a video of engine start of a M2. Very inspirational. Next could you do a detailed preflight with walk around ?
Absolutely! That is in the works!
Wow! I used this for Microsoft Flight Simulator, and it worked incredibly! Thank you, Max!
Good stuff as usual!
Love the tech videos.
Understood about half of what you said, I'm not real aviation tech savy, but I sure loved the sound of those engines starting up. Now to me, that was cool. Thanks
Love the video, although I am not a pilot, I love all kinds of aircraft, and have always wondered about some of the technical details like this :)
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Brazil
Simple yet effective video. Very well done Max. Hope you're well sir.
Thank you Justin!
Cool stuff Max! 🤙
Max, I just missed you. I go into Erie every month to visit my dad. Hopefully, this wasn't a one off. I'll have to keep an eye out for you. Great video.
Nicely done! Thanks for showing this engine start sequence. :)
101 From A Pro. Very Nice Max, Thank You From Lakeland🤜
Love that engine sound.
Amazing video. Very informative.
Didn’t see the n1 and fan spool up on the graphic close enough to see what was going on. Thanks Max for sharing how to start the Citation. It looks like a much cooler start up then on some of the smaller jets. I’ve seen some like the primier and gulfstream peg almost to the end of their safe zone before they begin to cool down to normal idle temp.
Ah sorry you didn’t see it closer up. Yes sometimes depending on elevation and temperature they can get close to the red line. Thanks for watching!
CitationMax I kinda wished I could have been there when Greg started spooling up his primier with a bunch of bees making a nest in one of his turbines.
That's a great FADEC on that machine. In the early 80s I had a chance to fly once in a Citation II and it wasn't quite this easy to start!
That’s what I’ve heard also! Definitely happy to have the fadec 😀
That m2 is beautiful!
That's cool. Thank You
Thanks Max. Love all of the tech stuff. Keep up the great work and say HI to your mom for us.
Thank you Bill! Will do appreciate it
Thanks, Max. I always find the pre-flight check-list process and start-up so interesting. Hope you had a good flight back to Jackson Hole.
Thank you David!
@@CitationMax your engines start almost exactly the same as my learjet.
How did you become so cool👍🏻? New subscriber!! Love your vibe!! Thx
love it looks just like the longititude, the dashboard
Boy, that number 1 sure lights fast. That's awesome.
Super helpful video. I noticed in the past you were pushing the power lever from OFF To IDLE fairly quickly after initiating the start. Now that I see it's fully automated, I understand why. It's not actually introducing fuel right away, it's just allowing it to add fuel when it's Darn Good and Ready(tm). Didn't know about the N1 requirement as the N2 spooled up, that's good to know. I also appreciated seeing the loads on the electrical system. 40 amp base draw, then 240 amps when the starter is engaged. Sure is different than the piston world! Thanks for the awesome walkthrough!
coma13794 glad you enjoyed it! And yes you’re correct! The faded tells the engine when to introduce the fuel. But it’s a fully automated system! Fuel pumps ignition etc.
Thanks that's awesome :)
So cool its the same in the mustang in the simulators too
Interesting. Thanks!
Excellent
Love it. M2 is my dream airplane. I love Cessna aircraft. I'm looking forward to GulfstreamMax.
four zero zero romeo romeo lol! Thank you.
BEAUTIFUL bird you've got there!
Thanks for the video. This will help me be the next Bare Foot Bandit!
I love this one too, Max. I've wanted to see someone run through the start sequence in the Citation. You lost me on the N1 and N2 speeds. Pausing the video I saw fuel flow, oil pressure and ignition but I still couldn't figure out the fan rotation speed and compressor speed. Where were you reading those numbers? Thanks Max. I love your videos! Keep them coming! Looking forward to flying my own M2! Oh, btw, are you tailwheel endorsed? Just curious. It's a totally different genre of flying but still really really fun!
Glad you enjoyed it! There were small numbers next to the engine instruments but maybe was hard to see sorry. And no I don’t have my tail wheel definitely would like to get it someday!!
Can't wait for the CJ3+ videos!
thank you great video
I have spent 3 yrs watching videos like this., just started my sport license, i dont think i could have gottent through the book work of the first 21hrs without videos like this... my instructor said he felt as if he was getting punked because i knew everything already...only problems so far are with radio and lingo
A simple and sophisticated system
Thanks. Very interesting.
Saludos !!!
Nice. That’s much simpler than the cj1 I flew. Never flew the mustang but i saw them going down the line when I was at cessna school in Kansas.
Very interesting !
Looks like I can go get in one of these and start it right up and on my way!!!!!!
Excellent 😊👍
Very cool! Starters draw batteries down from 25 volts to 15 during startup pulling 200-300amps, crazy amount of power required getting the turbine to spin up!
It definitely is crazy!
Awesome !!
I've seen a number of jet startup videos and it's interesting how they vary depending on the aircraft, mainly in what's manual and automatic. All jets seem to have the same startup sequence, (starter, N1 and N2 target speed, ignitor, fuel, monitor EGT and keep the starter on until N1 - or is it N2? - reaches 20-25%). The citation seems to automate the ignitor and starter shutoff, while some aircraft, like the UH6 helicopter, requires the pilot to manage all aspects of the start.
Erie/..cool only 2 hrs south in Pgh...know Erie well safe trip home my friend..enjoy all of your videos..
Thank you Bob
Great! Now that I know how to start it I want to see the video "how to give my buddy Gary a ride in a Citation M2"!
Brilliant - this is my plane of choice for MSFS - I was wondering where I can get one of the handy checklist cards
this guy is a legend
Ha Thanks Wayne… but I’m just a big aviation geek! Hope you’re well.
@@CitationMax hey max I'm well thanks, love your videos I'm just a c172 pilot but fly the cj4 in the sim
nice!
It appears the hardest part about starting your jet is getting yourself in the pilot’s seat! 😁😁
Thanks. Very interesting. I heard you mention cool starts and have heard SteveO mention them as well. What would you do in event of a "hot start"? Can it be restarted after cooling off or would the engine require maintenance to be started again?
Mike, we always want to see cool starts but in the event of a issue it would depend on the situation and what happened. Hot start would definitely require maintenance other sorts of starts hung starts etc might not. Thank you for your great question
Try a manual start on a TPE 331 now a days it just a button push the older 731 classics are fun too lol
OK... now that we know how to start the engines.... where do you HIDE THE.KEY to get in THE DOOR ??? :)
Great job Max !!
@ CitationMax you talk about battery start. Is there another option? A start-cart? As always, I enjoy your videos!
Hey jay, yes the other kind of start is a GPU start Ground power start and we do those a lot! Helps with battery life and keeping the temperatures down!
Great demo! You don't have reversers on those engines, right?
Hell yeah!!
Hello, how are you? I have a question, I am a fan of your videos I want to ask you something I see that you fly many citation, and I saw that you took the cirrus vision jet course the question is, which of the two aircraft brands or manufacturers convinces you more in the Safety part, let me explain Cirrus, you can land by pressing an emergency button and you have a parachute. I really don't know with what security elements how much the citation is, being your pilot of both, which do you think is the safest of the two? Cirrus vision jet or citation and with which you feel safer to fly
Hi Max, enjoy watching all your videos, you do a great job....can you explain what you mean when you say "Relays out"? Tim
Hey Tim, When the start relay goes out then the engine driven generator goes online. if the start relay does not go out then the generator wont come online. thanks!
@@CitationMax Thanks for the reply Max, how is that indicated?
So much easier and simpler than any recip I know of or any of the old Jets I know. Sweet. Thank you.
Thanks
Be careful, keep your hand right by the throttle the entire time during start up. The second you take your hand away to mess with comms, it’s going to spike the EGT and you’ll need an overhaul because you were messing with the radios. Don’t get complacent!
You mean you don't just turn a key and it starts? Hehe j/k. Been playing the MSFS 2020 and I can never remember the startup sequence on the Citation Longitude. I can't imagine being in the real thing! Really enjoy your videos.
max you're the best just started watching your vids... but i did notice on start up of left engine you never checked left for anyone or obstructions just saying but if there were someone or thing could have been bad...
Sweet! :)
Good! Well! Now we need find M2 for training.
We assume this is a FADEC system. Could you explain this auto system and how it simplifies engine operation at start, takeoff and cruise flight?
Would really enjoy meeting you one day !!
Love the beard!
Howd you turn it off again? Reverse order or...
Thanks for showing up...
how long does it take to recharge the plane's battery enough in order to attempt a cross engine start on the second engine ?
Curious….in the event of an emergency when you have to just get outta there fast….how quickly can you do startup and get in the air?