Latex tube from Michelin or Vittoria are great tubes, great rolling feeling and confort, no puncture for now, only issue is the loss of pressure (1 bar per day approx)
Sorry to hear about your struggles. The thumbnail got a laugh out of me though as I was really curious how this experiment would pan out. Everyone in my cycling group proselytizes latex tubes (if not tubeless). I haven't tried yet. But as everyone else in the comments notes, we appreciate you taking the bullet for us on this test.
I have been using the “Smart” Pirelli TPU inner tubes and I have to say I am very happy . Not had any issues as of yet. Also I ride in the UK which has the worst roads in Europe. I am not naïve enough to think I will never have issues but this calendar year no issues yet, Fingers crossed.
Yes, I believe punctures increase dramatically when tyres go below 60% wear. I trend to rotate front and back and change them more often, all type of tubes will puncture in the same way I believe.
Thanks for the warning, Federico! Nothing quite as strong and repairable as butyl. We used to see how many times we could patch a flat tube and keep using it as a spare. I topped out at 8 once. Butyl seems to get more flat resistant the older it gets. Can't complain about that on the city streets. I also heard tubeless road tires might blow off the rim if aired up harder than a wimpy 60 PSI. What kind of rolling resistance can you get with a 25 mm tire on that pressure? No wonder roadies are gearing down!
Well, tubulars are the answer. They still track better than tubeless and roll over sharp objects better than all clinchers. They ride nicely at 90 PSI. And they've been around for 100 years. How about that for wondrous technology? You can carry a spare tire strapped under the seat, and change a flat in less than five minutes. I hate things that spit glue at you and might blow off the rim! What a dumb idea. Glue may have worked with fat mountain bike tires, not skinny, high pressure road bike tires. They're like disc brakes and electronic shifting, solutions to problems that doesn't exist. Bah, humbug!
Hi Federico, I would just like to support the idea of going tubeless. I would go hookless so you'll not need to match rims and tires so hard. The hookless system is finally a standard. I was really sceptical about this system but it came with my Giant and I just kept it. I must say that after 4000km I've got 0 punctures, the ride quality is incredible and, all in all, the system itself is easy to service. You can mount the tyre without special equipment and insert the liquid just afterwards. Every 6months you just replenish the liquid as it dries with time. Really a bless for road cycling.
@@fede1275 no reason to be skeptical on tubeless or hookless..they are both extreme-mature technologies which are safe to ride in all conditions...I have been running tubeless on my DT SWISS ARC1400 since 2019 and zero regrets, both in terms of durability, puncture protection and comfort..I have been also using hookless rims from Far Wheels since the beginning of the year, to replace my aero-wheels in windy conditions and above 3000 meters d+ races, and can easily say that there are no faults or problems whatsoever..indeed a reliable brand you should check out for any future project (see also the Hambini review)
@desire stadium actually, if the sealant itself is not capable of sealing the hole (at least partially as long you are within a 50km range from home), I would claim that you'll soon be calling a car to pick you up with a tube-type setup..the cut must be so big you would have stuff entering the tire and cutting the tube..the CO2 is useful when indeed the tire is not 100% sealed but the small leak allows you to still ride last but not the least, for the uber-skeptical, Vitoria has made an insert (which I didn't test yet...because I trust my tubeless setup) which would inflate in case of a completely tubeless flat tire, guaranteeing a 30/40 PSI equivalent which will carry you home even in an apocalyptic scenario
First ride yesterday with Ridenow TPU tubes - easy to install but a little more care is required as they’re incredibly thin but I suppose that’s the point. Will see what they’re like longevity wise. I’m running with GP5000’s. Between the spare and the 2 installed it was a weight saving of around 360g so a whole heavy saddle saved!
I've been using RideNow TPU tubes, so far only had 2 punctures, one caused by a sharp wire and the other was caused by improper installation(my fault). The improperly installed tubes managed to also last 1000km before giving way, but are still able to be repaired with their patch kits. Worth the money 👍
Yes, Ride Now (if they work) seem to be at the correct price point. Pirelli or Tubolitos way too expensive for what I experienced in a short period of time.
@@fede1275 I'm on Tubolitos now. Ride feel is fantastic. I just received my shipment of 85mm valve Stem Ride Now tubes. I hope they are just as good. They claim TPU is stronger than regular Butyl tubes. True or false in your opinion??
I'm not looking for any extra small performance gains anymore and want just enjoy riding I'm staying with tubes - standard butyl (nothing extralite, Conti) - as they are so easy to repair and durable, easy to install with just a little bit of care. I have tubeless ready wheels but tubeless setup can certain circumstances create quite a mess. From my previous experience, anything that was (extra)lite, be it wheels, tyres, tubes, was less durable, reliable and required more maintenance.
Been using shwalbe aerodrome for 2 years. One impact snakebite puncture only which I repaired easily repaired with tubolito repair kit at home. More care needed for repair and different technique but no problem. Using on rim brakes with gp5000 tyres on carbon rims. All good.
Hi Federico, I’ll continue to use TPU I like them. I have a suggestion for you. Have you thought about a video looking at the difference in butyl tubes? I’m not talking about lightweight vs standard. I’m suggesting looking at quality differences between brands. There are big differences. For example one big brand I won’t go near because they puncture more than most. No one talks about standard butyl tube differences and yet most of us use them. Ciao
You are right, but in reality I don't know how to actually measure the differences, as especially for punctures you never know if it was bad luck or the tube fault. I have used Continental Race 28 and Specialized tubes. Somehow I felt the Continental worked better and had less punctures. I don't have any data to back it up though.
@@fede1275 yes punctures would be problematic but other factors to consider, construction , seams, removable core, etc. There are lots of differences. For example I like the Pirelli Butyl Tubes, of course I love ITALIAN ! Prego
Hi Federico, I was positively shocked by the TPU tires, 5000 km without puncutre until yesterday. TPU Pirelli + Pirelli P zero Race. (it lasted longer than the outer tire.) I think that in your case there would be puncture regardless of the inner tubes type. The biggest factor here is luck, and then the type of terrain and then everything else.
Yes, you are right, but I can't afford to be unlucky at Pirelli prices 😄. I'm trying the Ride Now tpu tubes, I hope to get luckier and if not they are cheaper anyway!
@@kpsig I have been very happy do far with RideNow tubes, just had my first puncture last week. Got home normally and I found out later as they lose air very slowly. Hopefully will do a review soon
Bought TPU tubes from China at £9 per. Made a difference that I could feel and hear. Orange in colour on eBay. First issue valve stem pushed through and broke glue bond when I tried to top off pressure. Pushed track pump down on to valve. Ordered two more. One had manufacturing defect with pin hole puncture on joint. The joint looks like the ring on a worm where they have mated two sections together. Second had manufacturing issue with leak at valve stem seal. Looked like had not been bonded correctly. Out of the four still got one in front tyre. I think it's the usual story from China. Quality is not consistent. I would recommend a screw type washer to prevent pressure being applied to valve bond and improved quality control. It's a shame because I felt the weight saving and difference in rolling resistance and they made a lovely sound.
I've been using RideNow tpu tubes for a few months now and, apart from 2 issues with valves, they have been great. The quality control seem much better now
I actually could not resist to the performance of TPU, but I could not bear the replacement cost of the Pirellis. I now ride RideNow TPU tubes, much more affordable.
My recent experience with Ride Now TPU has not been positive. Punctured butyl tube 15km into ride. First Ride Now TPU spare, valve cap on so tight, could not remove it. Second worked as expected, but with no spares, headed home, just over 1km from home, the valve decided it had enough, no valve removal tool so walk of shame last kilometre. Will be checking my spares before putting them in the bag and will carry valve removal tool and spare valve in future. Should of taken the other bike which is tubeless and had no issues for last 4 years and 20,000kms.
Yes, it's great when you totally empty your nicely inflated tyre when unscrewing the pump from the valve. I've done it a few times when installing brand new tubes at the roadside. Embarrassing if someone is watching.@@fede1275
I have used tpu tubes most of 2024. Not even one flat until this week. The front wheel tube exploded causing a serious accident. Went over the handlebars at 20 mph, knocked unconscious, concussion, and frankly very lucky. The reason I mention in this forum is can anyone explain how a tube could explode as described? FYI, I use the Silca inflation tool to dictate psi. Thanks for any thoughts!
That very unfortunate, I'm happy you did not suffer more serious consequences. Not really sure how it exploded, when I had punctures with tpu I noticed that actually air flows away slower than butyl. I can only assume it was a defective one?
I didnt have problems with punctures, I think thats more on the tire side, also you can use tubolito repair kit to patch, BUT and this is big one I already have 3 smartubes suddenly loosing pressure from the valve!!! All previous times was while the bicycle was not in use but the latest just happen while riding and its a very bad experience!!!
Yes, I accidentally squeezed the tyre at the valve while fitting the RideNow tpu tubes and it failed. Now I'm very careful with them. With fresh tyres much less punctures
Great! I would have stayed with Pirelli (same factory as Tubolito) if they lasted. Maybe it was the worn tyre fault, but I could not afford the replacement cost. Happy with RideNow, at least they are cheap to replace!
Thanks for sharing this video Federico, I’ve often thought about swapping to these or Tubolitos. I now think I won’t. I was using the Schwalbe Extra Light butyl tubes with GP5000 tyres which were great until they punctured so had to get normal conti race tubes, difference marginal. I’m definitely going to get some shoes fitted next year though and invest in carbon soles. Got some Campag Scirocco wheels with Gatorskin tyres for winter, it’s like riding with two millstones strapped to my frame! 🫣
I guess these high performance tubes have their use if you need them for a specific event, but for everyday riding the risk is too high comparing to the cost.
My schalwabe tire punctured a lot until I placed an inner liner ( puncture protector film) no punctures. Guess that will do the trick with tpu as well.
I bought the Ridenow and another Chinese brand. Three fell apart in less than 200 miles. Not punctures, the seams at the welds failed. Not repairable. One never even made it till I got to ride it the same day. I’m now carrying them as spares and hope they are good enough to get me home. Nice they are so small since I can carry a few just in case.
Pity, did you have the failures at the valve? I have been using the RideNow with good success, but when I fit them I try not to pinch them near the valves. I have another video on them.
I found that riding it wet with tpu tube that a small amount of grit can enter through the valve hole and actually punch from the inside. I ride latex tubes now and those have survived rips and tears in tiers that would have been ride-ending on tubeless. Shoved a playing card in the tire to get me home. Latex tubes are not as delicate as people make out. And I run them at low pressure 65 psi. You don’t need tube less to run low pressure it’s not really a usp these days. Try tubeless if you like as with everything else it’s fine till it’s not. And when tubeless goes wrong and I mean enough for you to notice it goes wrong spectacularly. Darts don’t always work, tiers unmounting once flat, valves that are so well seized in place that you can’t get them out with your fingers alone not to mention the messy hands if you have to put a tube in. Top tip take some kitchen roll with you to wipe out the tier of needed . If you not ridding off road I still feel tubes are the way to go. At least for now.
Tubeless is great, for MTB. For road bike, forget. If you have puncture, you can use this tire again only with tube inside, all other repairs don't work, due to high pressure, 4+ bars, that is my experience. I'm looking forward to see Your next video about Ridenow tubes.
I run my mtb and road bike tubeless, if I get a cut in the tyre and its to big to seal , I just patch the inside of the tyre like you would any inner tube , put some more fuild in boom , back to tubeless , and you don't have to buy a tyre 🤟
@@charliecook6909 yes, also like me, i'll do the same, i bought patch for tyre, this patch last one month, and then the pressure of air make hole in patch during the ride. As i said, after this i throw tyre in trash. If you put tube in tyre, patch will disturb the tube and tyre does not rotate evenly.
@@tomib.4327 ah never had that issue , just cut my own patches out of patch sheets you can get and glue them on with gorilla super glue , works an absolute treat , never had to put a tube in or get a new tyre as yet could just be luck , also I fold the tyre inside out before glueing
@@charliecook6909 i bought a patch especialy for tyre, not for tube, and glue for it, and this last one month, broken patch you can remove only with grinding.
Maybe you should try the Vittoria TPU tubes. They claim a better puncture resistance compared to butyl tubes. I wont try them during this winter because I'll use heavier tyres anyway. But when I'll put my vittoria corsas back on the bike, I'll definitely try those new Vittoria TPU tubes.
Thank you, I'm trying the Ride Now tpu tubes: I believe that under the same circumstances all tubes would puncture and the replacement cost is what I am looking for. The Vittoria seem high performance, but the Ride Now are about £9 each
@@fede1275 I'm actually trying to decide wether I only buy one TPU tube as a spare or 3 TPU tubes for both of my wheels and 1 as a spare (wich would really make the whole system Rider+bike+tools at least 200g lighter for a reasonable amount of money)
Sorry to hear the Pirelli TPU tube didn't work for you. I have been riding them now for about 1000km. One puncture which was easily fixed using a Park Tool self adhesive patch GP-2. Since then I have purchased the Pirelli repair kit but not had to use it yet.
@@fede1275 Oh okay! You can order directly from their website for that price! I also just ordered RideNow tubes for Gravel model for less than 12 usd which was sick deal compared to anything that i had tested! Normal model goes for even lower, like 9 usd or someting like that with free shipping! Just crazy deals compared to anything over here in europe.
@@fede1275 yes it's weird, I tried to pump the tube with my mouth only (low pressure) and I'm not loosing air. There are no leaks underwater. The problem occurred only at high pressure.
I run Michelin latex tube with vittoria corsa, haven’t had a puncture in over 2000 miles!!! I do carry a butyl tube for ease of changing if a puncture does occur, if it ain’t broke... Tubeless seems like a load of old bollocks to me🤣
@@fede1275 loss of pressure is of no concern on my rides which are 4 to 5 hours, you do need to check pressure if going out the next day of if you ride once a week you’ll have to pump up a fair bit, it’s a good thing because you get to check your tyres over before every ride, something a lot of people neglect when using butyl tubes, the ride quality is night and day different, if you’ve been using butyl you’ll definitely feel the difference initially.
Definitely try tubeless. I run bikes both tubed and tubeless. They each have advantages and disadvantages but tubeless gives you a better ride quality by running lower pressure and unless you get a large cut in the tire the sealant will seal most punctures. I run tubeless on my mountain bike and would never go back to tubes. Also tubeless on a gravel bike. The key is to make sure the wheel and tire are tubeless compatible and make sure you always have liquid sealant in the tire. Taping the wheel properly is often the difference between success and failure in tubeless setup.
HI Federico! You must try latex tubes. They drive faster like TPU and they are lighter like butyl inner tube. I have been using them for 10,000 km and there have been no punctures yet. (i am use Vittoria inner)
I've been running the cheap Ridenow tubes all summer (+-1500km) and haven't had a puncture yet (i weigh 90+kg btw). They save me about 100g per tire. Only issue I encountered is that by changing them out a couple times, to switch from road to gravel tires on the same wheels, the valve connection to the tube became loose. That resulted in a slow puncture overnight. With fall/winter coming, I'm more anxious... Last winter I had about 8 punctures with butyl tubes lol, so we'll see how they hold up.
I'm using tubolitos for about a year now and still no punctures. It's paired with 23c veloflex corsa tires pumped up to 7 bar front and 7.3 bar at the rear. Ride is immaculate. I will never go back to butyl.
Yes, they ride slightly better in terms of comfort. I was expecting a harsher ride, but it's not the case. I use 100psi anyway, but a small improvement.
Hi Federico, sad to hear that, because I've ordered Ridenow tubes and now I'm a bit doubtful if this was a smart move. Regarding your first accident/puncture on the stone - is it possible that this series of punctures are actually the consequence of tire damage from the first incident? Because I don't quite understand how inner tube can make a difference - if something sharp can break through tire, it will for sure go through any tube or I'm missing something? Were all punctures on the same wheel? Were all on the same spot on the wheel? If so, you could still have sharp debris in the inner side of the tire, but I'm sure you checked this... Or the tire is damaged and now more prone to punctures on that spot? You will see if butyl tubes will work now, but there is a chance that this nightmare continues (I hope not!). And for winter, I'm considering something more puncture resistant than GP5000, like new Contact Urban - according to b. rolling resistance (fantastic webpage!), they are super resistant (much more than 4 seasons 2022) and still fast (and cheap).
The problem is that punctures happen and it's unfortunately normal. I had hoped not to have them so often on so expensive tubes! The first one at the rear was due to the rock or the pothole, but I checked the tyre and it was okay. The second one on the rear was due to a sharp splinter, lodged in the tyre and I removed it. The front slow puncture I'm not sure why it happened, but the tube was a bit warped when I took it off. Will loot at the Contact urban!
No issues with the smart tubes at all 1500 miles in no punctures and much improved rolling resistance. I think it depends on what tyres you use im on pirelli p zero race now and schwalbe pro one 2021 version previously. Both have great puncture protection. I had constant punctures with GP5000'S what tyres are you using ?
@@fede1275 The GP5000'S are definitely the fastest tyres I have used but yes I had nothing but punctures with them especially in the rain. Try a different tyre it's not the smart tubes. Also keep up the good work your channel is informative 👍🏾
Hi Frederico, I watched your review with great interest. There are a lot of real world opinions out there on TPU tubes. I have been seriously considering for the sole reason of saving space in my saddle bag for long rides when I choose to take a few more tools. Most of the views are negative and there seems to be a generic flaw with the plastic valve sleeve to metal valve body interface, and between the plastic sleeve and the TPU tube itself. Ironically, there is a cheaper green one with a metal valve sleeve which may solve part of the design issue. I can't convince myself to take these as spares as when I puncture, I really want the confidence to get home. I wonder if you were able to observe how yours failed? May i also ask, have oyu ever had a chain break on a ride and do you take a breaker tool on rides?
I should have posted an updated video about tubes, as I have been using RideNow tpu ones for more than 6 months with great results. A couple of valve failures, but apart from that they are very good, light and fast. I do carry a multi tool with a chain breaker and a quick link, but I never used in (touch wood). I did have a hanger failure I could not fix roadside though.
Not sure, I haven't tried latex tubes as I'm using the bikes regularly and I am afraid of the pressure loss. TPU are definitely faster than butyl though.
The issue with TPU tube are, (a) you need to ensure the inside part of the tire is free from dirt and sand, if not, it will soon puncture the TPU tube when you inflate it to ride. (b) TPU tube will stretch when it is inflated inside the tire. Unlike butyl tube, TPU tube will not go back to its original size once it is deflated. This pose a serious problem when you try to reinsert it into the tire. More often than not, unable to get it in correctly because the TPU tube is permanently stretched too big to stay in the tire prior inflation. Folds in the TPU is the result which lead to possible puncture or blowout during inflation. I am currently using such TPU tubes as a consumable and avoid reuse it. Expensive choice.
RideNow luckily are not too expensive and I've been using with good results for a while now. I have reused already inflated tubes and they have performed fine. Earlier black valves were not that durable, the newer transparent ones should be better
Honestly you can feel it. I was disappointed about the replacement cost for the Pirelli, but I found the RideNow and I would not use anything else. They are fast
@@RajzingerLaszlo__RL_Laci I had a great run up until January, where I had 3 or 4 in a row. But I pointed the blame to the softer Goodyear tyres I fitted on the Velobuild. Touch wood no problems with Continental
I bought two sets of those chinese tubes. 1- the ridenow the first time first time installed lasted quite some time however the big problem with the design was when you pump...them was a nightmare the valve came loose out of the tube itself got tired and went back to butyl. 😅 2- set was from another brand (green color ones) and were absolutely garbage the obus came loose out of the valve!!! The valves were made out of cheap plastic and couldn't hold any air in the and the obus went flying across my living room. I was thinking of buying these pirelli but i am kind of hold back, yes are expensive to get punctured being that amount of money. So now i dont know 😂
I've been using RideNow for almost 6 months and I would not go back to butyl. They are light and fast. Valve a bit annoying with the track pump, but I can live with that.
Io sto usando le camere Pirelli da qualche mese (oltre 4,000 km) con i copertoncini Pirelli 4S da 28 e non ho avuto nessuna foratura (ancora); tra l’altro viaggio spesso con pressioni colpevolmente basse; non so se sia fortuna o merito dell’abbinamento con gli pneumatici “invernali”
It looks like putting a liquid into a tube adds yet another step to the process, and another cost, and potential messiness so I will remain with the pedestrian, humble, unpretentious black rubber tubes.
You can't say I didn't warn you in a previous video. Those plastic tubes do not hold their own and you should only use them as the spare to get you home. You can carry two of them as spares and still save some grams over one butyl tube. But take it back off the bike when you get home. The marketing and temptation really sucks people in but the results for a lot of the lighter weight stuff is always the same. Disappointing. As for road tubeless, I've tried about 6 different brands of tires in 25c and 28c, and all the different sealants, over the coarse of 4 or 5 years and only once out of all the times I flatted did the sealant work and it only kept enough pressure in the tire for me to ride the bike gently and slowly back about 5 miles. That was a real pain in the butt too. I'm done with road tubeless and will never be tempted to try again.
Holy smokes! An expensive experiment Regular tubes with quality tyres is the only way. If I were still racing (I'm too old now unfortunately) of course I'd use them.
I’ll never use Tubolito (or similar plastic tubes) again until I give in to the industry marketing men and buy a disc brake bike. After no more than half a km of descending off Galibier my front wheel inner tube exploded - sounded like a gunshot, immediately flat and caused me to crash. Thankfully I was not at high speed. I was carrying butyl spares and made it to the finish of L’Étape but descending very slowly. Buyer beware. The box indicates ok for rim brakes but not so in my experience
hard to imagine how the properly installed non-elastic, small profile TPU tube can explode - too high pressure? or not properly seated tire? or part of TPU tube between the bead and rim? im using Tubolito Road S as a spare tube, but never ride on them thanks to tubeless - 2 years on tubeless - just 2 punctures without need of repair even without significant loss of pressure
That’s your own fault. You should know that TPU tubes can’t be used on rim brakes especially if it’s a carbon wheel. The RideNow tubes explicitly say that on their packaging not sure about Tubalito but it’s more common sense to me.
@@m.a.2282 that’s not what it shows on the Tubolito Road box, which clearly Indicates ok for use with rim or disc. Only warning is about temperature and to lower pressure if a hot day etc. in my view they’re too risky for rim brakes and the way the inner blew causing loss of control I personally won’t be trying them again. Latex far better and safer in my experience but we can all decide what we prefer!
You've been unfortunate with punctures, wouldn't blame the tubes as whatever it is is going through your tires, the tubes are secondary in resistance those 5000 are good tires
Absolutely, I believe running fresh tyres is the best puncture prevention. However at these prices I could not afford a bad run of luck. Now I'm using RideNow tpu tubes, cheap, light and fast.
These are delicate and easily punctured.. but will go into your emergency spare kit? This logic does not compute. In an emergency repair, I want a robust and strong spare kit.. something with good odds of safe journey home.
Inner tubes to me puncture in the same way with the right debris. I am thinking soft and worn tyres contribute the most to punctures. I'm using RideNow plastic tubes currently as they light, small and fast.
you know... you CAN patch them, on the go, with pre-glued patches. I don't even bother taking the wheel off... just deflate, patch, etc.
I’m glad to know I was thinking of buying some
The performance increase is addictive, but sadly not for everyday riding I think
Latex tube from Michelin or Vittoria are great tubes, great rolling feeling and confort, no puncture for now, only issue is the loss of pressure (1 bar per day approx)
If it's 1 bar per day I could live with that!
I’ve had two random blowouts with the Vittoria latex tubes
@@StopTheRot yes, Vittoria is less reliable, now I only use Michelin
i recommend challenge tubes for maxing out the Italy
Sorry to hear about your struggles. The thumbnail got a laugh out of me though as I was really curious how this experiment would pan out. Everyone in my cycling group proselytizes latex tubes (if not tubeless). I haven't tried yet. But as everyone else in the comments notes, we appreciate you taking the bullet for us on this test.
Always happy to help 🥲
Got a puncture in my rear tubeless, I only know due to sealant on my frame, it just fixed itself somewhere along the way.
cannot confirm your experience. so far, they work fantastic for me. in winter: a good solid tire (e.g. conti 4 season or similar) will do the job.
I got the 4 seasons waiting to be fitted for the winter, will see then
I've just started using latex tubes , filled them with orange sealant , fingers crossed they will be ok 😁
I have been using the “Smart” Pirelli TPU inner tubes and I have to say I am very happy . Not had any issues as of yet. Also I ride in the UK which has the worst roads in Europe. I am not naïve enough to think I will never have issues but this calendar year no issues yet, Fingers crossed.
Yes, I believe punctures increase dramatically when tyres go below 60% wear. I trend to rotate front and back and change them more often, all type of tubes will puncture in the same way I believe.
Thanks for the warning, Federico! Nothing quite as strong and repairable as butyl. We used to see how many times we could patch a flat tube and keep using it as a spare. I topped out at 8 once. Butyl seems to get more flat resistant the older it gets. Can't complain about that on the city streets.
I also heard tubeless road tires might blow off the rim if aired up harder than a wimpy 60 PSI. What kind of rolling resistance can you get with a 25 mm tire on that pressure? No wonder roadies are gearing down!
Yes, another reason I'm staying with tubes, at my 86kg I like my tyres at 100psi to start with
Well, tubulars are the answer. They still track better than tubeless and roll over sharp objects better than all clinchers. They ride nicely at 90 PSI. And they've been around for 100 years. How about that for wondrous technology? You can carry a spare tire strapped under the seat, and change a flat in less than five minutes.
I hate things that spit glue at you and might blow off the rim! What a dumb idea. Glue may have worked with fat mountain bike tires, not skinny, high pressure road bike tires. They're like disc brakes and electronic shifting, solutions to problems that doesn't exist. Bah, humbug!
Good try and Takk for updates👍🏻 I use tubes in tires as well Roads are rough here tubes is bettter 👍🏻🇮🇸
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Hi Federico, I would just like to support the idea of going tubeless. I would go hookless so you'll not need to match rims and tires so hard. The hookless system is finally a standard. I was really sceptical about this system but it came with my Giant and I just kept it. I must say that after 4000km I've got 0 punctures, the ride quality is incredible and, all in all, the system itself is easy to service. You can mount the tyre without special equipment and insert the liquid just afterwards. Every 6months you just replenish the liquid as it dries with time. Really a bless for road cycling.
Great they worked for you, I am still sceptical, but maybe one day I will try.
@@fede1275 no reason to be skeptical on tubeless or hookless..they are both extreme-mature technologies which are safe to ride in all conditions...I have been running tubeless on my DT SWISS ARC1400 since 2019 and zero regrets, both in terms of durability, puncture protection and comfort..I have been also using hookless rims from Far Wheels since the beginning of the year, to replace my aero-wheels in windy conditions and above 3000 meters d+ races, and can easily say that there are no faults or problems whatsoever..indeed a reliable brand you should check out for any future project (see also the Hambini review)
@@fede1275 Yes.
@desire stadium actually, if the sealant itself is not capable of sealing the hole (at least partially as long you are within a 50km range from home), I would claim that you'll soon be calling a car to pick you up with a tube-type setup..the cut must be so big you would have stuff entering the tire and cutting the tube..the CO2 is useful when indeed the tire is not 100% sealed but the small leak allows you to still ride
last but not the least, for the uber-skeptical, Vitoria has made an insert (which I didn't test yet...because I trust my tubeless setup) which would inflate in case of a completely tubeless flat tire, guaranteeing a 30/40 PSI equivalent which will carry you home even in an apocalyptic scenario
First ride yesterday with Ridenow TPU tubes - easy to install but a little more care is required as they’re incredibly thin but I suppose that’s the point. Will see what they’re like longevity wise. I’m running with GP5000’s. Between the spare and the 2 installed it was a weight saving of around 360g so a whole heavy saddle saved!
I know, the weight savings and performance are addictive, 🤞🤞 for the longevity!
@@fede1275 I've been using Ridenow tubes on my Zipp 303's with Pirelli's & 2 months now flat free. Rides wonderfully!
About 800 km with RideNow and no punctures so far...
I've been using RideNow TPU tubes, so far only had 2 punctures, one caused by a sharp wire and the other was caused by improper installation(my fault).
The improperly installed tubes managed to also last 1000km before giving way, but are still able to be repaired with their patch kits. Worth the money 👍
Yes, Ride Now (if they work) seem to be at the correct price point. Pirelli or Tubolitos way too expensive for what I experienced in a short period of time.
Almost 3 months now on RideNow, had only one puncture.
@@Stefanosinf and definitely cheaper to replace
True!
@@fede1275 I'm on Tubolitos now. Ride feel is fantastic. I just received my shipment of 85mm valve Stem Ride Now tubes. I hope they are just as good. They claim TPU is stronger than regular Butyl tubes. True or false in your opinion??
Thanks for sharing. I was thinking of switching to TPU tubes also, but will give it a miss for the present.
I'm now back on tpu tubes, RideNow from Aliexpress. I love them, I need to do another video
Tubeless are awesome bud!
Tubeless is the future,Federico 🚴🏼♂️💨
I know, but I'm old 😫😂
Never had a puncture in 4 years. But i've only used butyl tubes and conti tyres. Have some tubolito's and ride now tubes as spares.
For now I will go back to that same set up.
I'm not looking for any extra small performance gains anymore and want just enjoy riding I'm staying with tubes - standard butyl (nothing extralite, Conti) - as they are so easy to repair and durable, easy to install with just a little bit of care. I have tubeless ready wheels but tubeless setup can certain circumstances create quite a mess. From my previous experience, anything that was (extra)lite, be it wheels, tyres, tubes, was less durable, reliable and required more maintenance.
Yes, good decision. Problem is when you try tpu tubes you don't want to go back to butyl, they are just faster and it's addictive 😄
Been using shwalbe aerodrome for 2 years. One impact snakebite puncture only which I repaired easily repaired with tubolito repair kit at home. More care needed for repair and different technique but no problem. Using on rim brakes with gp5000 tyres on carbon rims. All good.
Thanks for the info, will start repairing them when I am not that angry at them!
Hi Federico, I’ll continue to use TPU I like them. I have a suggestion for you. Have you thought about a video looking at the difference in butyl tubes? I’m not talking about lightweight vs standard. I’m suggesting looking at quality differences between brands. There are big differences. For example one big brand I won’t go near because they puncture more than most. No one talks about standard butyl tube differences and yet most of us use them. Ciao
You are right, but in reality I don't know how to actually measure the differences, as especially for punctures you never know if it was bad luck or the tube fault. I have used Continental Race 28 and Specialized tubes. Somehow I felt the Continental worked better and had less punctures. I don't have any data to back it up though.
@@fede1275 yes punctures would be problematic but other factors to consider, construction , seams, removable core, etc. There are lots of differences. For example I like the Pirelli Butyl Tubes, of course I love ITALIAN ! Prego
They are probably all made in the same place and under same QC arrangements in Taiwan and out into different boxes. @@fede1275
Really good information
Hi Federico, I was positively shocked by the TPU tires, 5000 km without puncutre until yesterday. TPU Pirelli + Pirelli P zero Race. (it lasted longer than the outer tire.) I think that in your case there would be puncture regardless of the inner tubes type. The biggest factor here is luck, and then the type of terrain and then everything else.
Yes, you are right, but I can't afford to be unlucky at Pirelli prices 😄. I'm trying the Ride Now tpu tubes, I hope to get luckier and if not they are cheaper anyway!
@@fede1275 Be sure to let us know the results please!
@@dinkec24 will do!
@@fede1275How did it go?
@@kpsig I have been very happy do far with RideNow tubes, just had my first puncture last week. Got home normally and I found out later as they lose air very slowly. Hopefully will do a review soon
Not a single puncture since I move to tubeless on my commuter 4 years ago. You should try it!
Bought TPU tubes from China at £9 per. Made a difference that I could feel and hear. Orange in colour on eBay. First issue valve stem pushed through and broke glue bond when I tried to top off pressure. Pushed track pump down on to valve. Ordered two more. One had manufacturing defect with pin hole puncture on joint. The joint looks like the ring on a worm where they have mated two sections together. Second had manufacturing issue with leak at valve stem seal. Looked like had not been bonded correctly. Out of the four still got one in front tyre. I think it's the usual story from China. Quality is not consistent. I would recommend a screw type washer to prevent pressure being applied to valve bond and improved quality control. It's a shame because I felt the weight saving and difference in rolling resistance and they made a lovely sound.
I've been using RideNow tpu tubes for a few months now and, apart from 2 issues with valves, they have been great. The quality control seem much better now
I was on fence on these, thanks for the video!
I actually could not resist to the performance of TPU, but I could not bear the replacement cost of the Pirellis. I now ride RideNow TPU tubes, much more affordable.
My recent experience with Ride Now TPU has not been positive. Punctured butyl tube 15km into ride. First Ride Now TPU spare, valve cap on so tight, could not remove it. Second worked as expected, but with no spares, headed home, just over 1km from home, the valve decided it had enough, no valve removal tool so walk of shame last kilometre. Will be checking my spares before putting them in the bag and will carry valve removal tool and spare valve in future. Should of taken the other bike which is tubeless and had no issues for last 4 years and 20,000kms.
I do carry a valve removal tool, I had a normal Continental tube I could not inflate as my mini pump kept unscrewing the core!
Yes, it's great when you totally empty your nicely inflated tyre when unscrewing the pump from the valve. I've done it a few times when installing brand new tubes at the roadside. Embarrassing if someone is watching.@@fede1275
I had the same experience with Tubolito tubes. The $/durability ratio was not good enough for watts saved.
Yes, both Pirelli and Tubolito cost too much. RideNow much better!
I have used tpu tubes most of 2024. Not even one flat until this week. The front wheel tube exploded causing a serious accident. Went over the handlebars at 20 mph, knocked unconscious, concussion, and frankly very lucky. The reason I mention in this forum is can anyone explain how a tube could explode as described? FYI, I use the Silca inflation tool to dictate psi. Thanks for any thoughts!
That very unfortunate, I'm happy you did not suffer more serious consequences. Not really sure how it exploded, when I had punctures with tpu I noticed that actually air flows away slower than butyl. I can only assume it was a defective one?
Useful for a spare in the saddle bag but I wouldn’t run them all the time .
That is what I was doing it before, I just got tempted to run them as well, it did not work...
I didnt have problems with punctures, I think thats more on the tire side, also you can use tubolito repair kit to patch, BUT and this is big one I already have 3 smartubes suddenly loosing pressure from the valve!!! All previous times was while the bicycle was not in use but the latest just happen while riding and its a very bad experience!!!
Yes, I accidentally squeezed the tyre at the valve while fitting the RideNow tpu tubes and it failed. Now I'm very careful with them. With fresh tyres much less punctures
I’ve had great luck with Tubolitos running on GP5000s and bontrager Pro 51’s. A little over 1100 miles so far… no issue yet.
Great! I would have stayed with Pirelli (same factory as Tubolito) if they lasted. Maybe it was the worn tyre fault, but I could not afford the replacement cost. Happy with RideNow, at least they are cheap to replace!
Tubeless is what you need, Federico. I got a puncture in the heavy rain on Thursday. Happy to give any advice if you do try.
Thank you, will see if I decide in the future!
Thanks for the review
Check my latest video on RideNow tpu tubes!
Just bought some. I knew it was a foolish purchase. About to mount em. Im thinking I'll use a liberal portion of talcum powder. I believe it helps.
I'm now using RideNow tpu tubes and I love them!!
finalmente qualcuno con i cerchi prime ;)
😄😄
Thanks for sharing this video Federico,
I’ve often thought about swapping to these or Tubolitos. I now think I won’t. I was using the Schwalbe Extra Light butyl tubes with GP5000 tyres which were great until they punctured so had to get normal conti race tubes, difference marginal.
I’m definitely going to get some shoes fitted next year though and invest in carbon soles.
Got some Campag Scirocco wheels with Gatorskin tyres for winter, it’s like riding with two millstones strapped to my frame! 🫣
I guess these high performance tubes have their use if you need them for a specific event, but for everyday riding the risk is too high comparing to the cost.
My schalwabe tire punctured a lot until I placed an inner liner ( puncture protector film) no punctures. Guess that will do the trick with tpu as well.
Interesting, thank you
I bought the Ridenow and another Chinese brand. Three fell apart in less than 200 miles. Not punctures, the seams at the welds failed. Not repairable. One never even made it till I got to ride it the same day. I’m now carrying them as spares and hope they are good enough to get me home. Nice they are so small since I can carry a few just in case.
Pity, did you have the failures at the valve? I have been using the RideNow with good success, but when I fit them I try not to pinch them near the valves. I have another video on them.
@@fede1275 The weld at the valve stem failed on two of them, the third failed at the weld where the tube was welded to itself.
@@joestorytowne valve happened to me as well, luckily not other failures.
thanks for saving me some money.
Here to help 🥲
I could only image how loud your groan would by on a tubeless flat lol
I found that riding it wet with tpu tube that a small amount of grit can enter through the valve hole and actually punch from the inside.
I ride latex tubes now and those have survived rips and tears in tiers that would have been ride-ending on tubeless. Shoved a playing card in the tire to get me home. Latex tubes are not as delicate as people make out. And I run them at low pressure 65 psi. You don’t need tube less to run low pressure it’s not really a usp these days.
Try tubeless if you like as with everything else it’s fine till it’s not. And when tubeless goes wrong and I mean enough for you to notice it goes wrong spectacularly. Darts don’t always work, tiers unmounting once flat, valves that are so well seized in place that you can’t get them out with your fingers alone not to mention the messy hands if you have to put a tube in. Top tip take some kitchen roll with you to wipe out the tier of needed . If you not ridding off road I still feel tubes are the way to go. At least for now.
Thanks for the info!
Tubeless is great, for MTB. For road bike, forget. If you have puncture, you can use this tire again only with tube inside, all other repairs don't work, due to high pressure, 4+ bars, that is my experience. I'm looking forward to see Your next video about Ridenow tubes.
I run my mtb and road bike tubeless, if I get a cut in the tyre and its to big to seal , I just patch the inside of the tyre like you would any inner tube , put some more fuild in boom , back to tubeless , and you don't have to buy a tyre 🤟
@@charliecook6909 yes, also like me, i'll do the same, i bought patch for tyre, this patch last one month, and then the pressure of air make hole in patch during the ride. As i said, after this i throw tyre in trash. If you put tube in tyre, patch will disturb the tube and tyre does not rotate evenly.
@@tomib.4327 ah never had that issue , just cut my own patches out of patch sheets you can get and glue them on with gorilla super glue , works an absolute treat , never had to put a tube in or get a new tyre as yet could just be luck , also I fold the tyre inside out before glueing
@@charliecook6909 i bought a patch especialy for tyre, not for tube, and glue for it, and this last one month, broken patch you can remove only with grinding.
Maybe you should try the Vittoria TPU tubes. They claim a better puncture resistance compared to butyl tubes. I wont try them during this winter because I'll use heavier tyres anyway. But when I'll put my vittoria corsas back on the bike, I'll definitely try those new Vittoria TPU tubes.
Thank you, I'm trying the Ride Now tpu tubes: I believe that under the same circumstances all tubes would puncture and the replacement cost is what I am looking for. The Vittoria seem high performance, but the Ride Now are about £9 each
@@fede1275 I'm actually trying to decide wether I only buy one TPU tube as a spare or 3 TPU tubes for both of my wheels and 1 as a spare (wich would really make the whole system Rider+bike+tools at least 200g lighter for a reasonable amount of money)
@@Thiaspeed I'm not sure I'm getting your maths, but I would ride a tpu on both wheels and carry 2 tpu spares, 4 in total 😄
@@fede1275 I've always been riding with only one spare.
@@Thiaspeed I got you now, I always felt better carrying two as I have been fitting a replacement wrongly once
Sorry to hear the Pirelli TPU tube didn't work for you. I have been riding them now for about 1000km. One puncture which was easily fixed using a Park Tool self adhesive patch GP-2. Since then I have purchased the Pirelli repair kit but not had to use it yet.
I know, 3 in a row was a bit much. Will repair them for next summer, I enjoyed while they lasted!
You can repair them but be careful the adhesive melts other plastics like glasses.
Good to know, thanks.
Have you seen "new" brand from italy Barbieri NXT tubes? They goes for like 15 euros for each for TPU inner tube from their website?
Yes and I was trying to check the availability for the UK, but could not find out. Then I got the Ride Now from Aliexpress at half the price!
@@fede1275 Oh okay! You can order directly from their website for that price! I also just ordered RideNow tubes for Gravel model for less than 12 usd which was sick deal compared to anything that i had tested!
Normal model goes for even lower, like 9 usd or someting like that with free shipping! Just crazy deals compared to anything over here in europe.
I bought the Pirelli TPU 2 weeks ago, so far good, but I'm loosing pressure now. When my pressure is at 80 psi after 1 hour, it's at 60 psi.
Something it's not right. When I had them on they were not losing pressure more than a butyl tube.
@@fede1275 yes it's weird, I tried to pump the tube with my mouth only (low pressure) and I'm not loosing air. There are no leaks underwater. The problem occurred only at high pressure.
@@0xjdion it might be a valve seal issue then. Happened to my RideNow as well. I am very careful not to pinch the tyre near the valve when fitting it.
@@fede1275 I will try to change the valve core thanks
@@0xjdion I believe they are glued on
I run Michelin latex tube with vittoria corsa, haven’t had a puncture in over 2000 miles!!!
I do carry a butyl tube for ease of changing if a puncture does occur, if it ain’t broke...
Tubeless seems like a load of old bollocks to me🤣
I'm getting more interested in latex, how bad is the pressure loss?
I lose normally about 10 psi or so overnight with latex.
@@RunBikeRun1 not the end of the world actually
@@fede1275 loss of pressure is of no concern on my rides which are 4 to 5 hours, you do need to check pressure if going out the next day of if you ride once a week you’ll have to pump up a fair bit, it’s a good thing because you get to check your tyres over before every ride, something a lot of people neglect when using butyl tubes, the ride quality is night and day different, if you’ve been using butyl you’ll definitely feel the difference initially.
@@julianmorris9951 yes, as I actually noticed the difference with tpu that on paper are not as nice as latex
Definitely try tubeless. I run bikes both tubed and tubeless. They each have advantages and disadvantages but tubeless gives you a better ride quality by running lower pressure and unless you get a large cut in the tire the sealant will seal most punctures. I run tubeless on my mountain bike and would never go back to tubes. Also tubeless on a gravel bike. The key is to make sure the wheel and tire are tubeless compatible and make sure you always have liquid sealant in the tire. Taping the wheel properly is often the difference between success and failure in tubeless setup.
I know, it's just not the sort of process I'm willing to start right now.
@@fede1275 Consider doing the rear wheel tubeless as a test since most flats happen on the rear tire. You can always go back to tubes.
Also can try a dynaplug on tubeless.
Recommended pressure for a PZER Smart tube TPU?
@@markmark2469 I used the pressure as normal, around 90psi for me
HI Federico! You must try latex tubes. They drive faster like TPU and they are lighter like butyl inner tube. I have been using them for 10,000 km and there have been no punctures yet. (i am use Vittoria inner)
Yes, I will definitely try them, cost is manageable at least!
no no NO! Three times the price, overly "sensitive", harder to patch/repair (don't hold patches well), and loose air way too fast.
I've been running the cheap Ridenow tubes all summer (+-1500km) and haven't had a puncture yet (i weigh 90+kg btw). They save me about 100g per tire. Only issue I encountered is that by changing them out a couple times, to switch from road to gravel tires on the same wheels, the valve connection to the tube became loose. That resulted in a slow puncture overnight. With fall/winter coming, I'm more anxious... Last winter I had about 8 punctures with butyl tubes lol, so we'll see how they hold up.
Yes, at least the Ride Now replacing cost is manageable, Pirelli or Tubolito way too expensive.
Im using latex vittorias and this year im 3400km and 45k meters of elevation in with no puncture.
Latex will be next!
I'm using tubolitos for about a year now and still no punctures. It's paired with 23c veloflex corsa tires pumped up to 7 bar front and 7.3 bar at the rear.
Ride is immaculate. I will never go back to butyl.
Yes, the tpu ride better and faster, that is why I was upset!
Hi, have you noticed any ride comfort differences between butyl and TPU inner tubes? Best wishes.
Yes, they ride slightly better in terms of comfort. I was expecting a harsher ride, but it's not the case. I use 100psi anyway, but a small improvement.
@@fede1275 Thanks much appreciated.
Hi Federico, sad to hear that, because I've ordered Ridenow tubes and now I'm a bit doubtful if this was a smart move. Regarding your first accident/puncture on the stone - is it possible that this series of punctures are actually the consequence of tire damage from the first incident? Because I don't quite understand how inner tube can make a difference - if something sharp can break through tire, it will for sure go through any tube or I'm missing something? Were all punctures on the same wheel? Were all on the same spot on the wheel? If so, you could still have sharp debris in the inner side of the tire, but I'm sure you checked this... Or the tire is damaged and now more prone to punctures on that spot? You will see if butyl tubes will work now, but there is a chance that this nightmare continues (I hope not!).
And for winter, I'm considering something more puncture resistant than GP5000, like new Contact Urban - according to b. rolling resistance (fantastic webpage!), they are super resistant (much more than 4 seasons 2022) and still fast (and cheap).
The problem is that punctures happen and it's unfortunately normal. I had hoped not to have them so often on so expensive tubes! The first one at the rear was due to the rock or the pothole, but I checked the tyre and it was okay. The second one on the rear was due to a sharp splinter, lodged in the tyre and I removed it. The front slow puncture I'm not sure why it happened, but the tube was a bit warped when I took it off. Will loot at the Contact urban!
Were the flats mainly from road debris or pinch flats?
All from debris, dirty city roads in winter.
Wouldn’t bother with tubeless. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Now back using tubes.
Tubeless seems such a polarising argument indeed!
@@fede1275 it certainly is 😉
No issues with the smart tubes at all 1500 miles in no punctures and much improved rolling resistance. I think it depends on what tyres you use im on pirelli p zero race now and schwalbe pro one 2021 version previously. Both have great puncture protection. I had constant punctures with GP5000'S what tyres are you using ?
Well, I am on GP5000, pity as I like them a lot. Might need to try others then!
@@fede1275 The GP5000'S are definitely the fastest tyres I have used but yes I had nothing but punctures with them especially in the rain.
Try a different tyre it's not the smart tubes.
Also keep up the good work your channel is informative 👍🏾
@@Gtek22 thank you!!
Brilliant 😂
forget the ride now tubes as well, had them on my bike for a couple of weeks and too many punctures too
Oh noooo!
the lack of tpu tires is not strong enough to heat up, especially on a wheelset with rim braking
I save weight by running lightish butyl and keeping a TPU as the spare.
Will do that for the winter, will see next summer.
Hi Frederico, I watched your review with great interest. There are a lot of real world opinions out there on TPU tubes. I have been seriously considering for the sole reason of saving space in my saddle bag for long rides when I choose to take a few more tools. Most of the views are negative and there seems to be a generic flaw with the plastic valve sleeve to metal valve body interface, and between the plastic sleeve and the TPU tube itself. Ironically, there is a cheaper green one with a metal valve sleeve which may solve part of the design issue. I can't convince myself to take these as spares as when I puncture, I really want the confidence to get home. I wonder if you were able to observe how yours failed? May i also ask, have oyu ever had a chain break on a ride and do you take a breaker tool on rides?
I should have posted an updated video about tubes, as I have been using RideNow tpu ones for more than 6 months with great results. A couple of valve failures, but apart from that they are very good, light and fast. I do carry a multi tool with a chain breaker and a quick link, but I never used in (touch wood). I did have a hanger failure I could not fix roadside though.
Any updates on RideNow TPUs from China? I'm assuming the punctures you had were different punctures?
They have been performing extremely well, touch wood no more punctures!
@@fede1275 Awesome. I appreciate your honest opinions!
what's the performance like vs latex tubes?
Not sure, I haven't tried latex tubes as I'm using the bikes regularly and I am afraid of the pressure loss. TPU are definitely faster than butyl though.
@@fede1275 just considering my options for crit racing.. have used latex ones and they seem alright.
@@syrus3k then for race day I guess latex is perfect
Ridenow are awesome
🤞🤞
The issue with TPU tube are, (a) you need to ensure the inside part of the tire is free from dirt and sand, if not, it will soon puncture the TPU tube when you inflate it to ride. (b) TPU tube will stretch when it is inflated inside the tire. Unlike butyl tube, TPU tube will not go back to its original size once it is deflated. This pose a serious problem when you try to reinsert it into the tire. More often than not, unable to get it in correctly because the TPU tube is permanently stretched too big to stay in the tire prior inflation. Folds in the TPU is the result which lead to possible puncture or blowout during inflation. I am currently using such TPU tubes as a consumable and avoid reuse it. Expensive choice.
RideNow luckily are not too expensive and I've been using with good results for a while now. I have reused already inflated tubes and they have performed fine. Earlier black valves were not that durable, the newer transparent ones should be better
I just order bulk tubes off eBay, 5 for £12 never have issues
I just received patch kits for the super light tubes from China as I ordered them by mistake instead of tubes 🤦♂️ if you'd be interested let me know
Thank you, I'll order a repair kit myself I think, can't stand all that yellow plastic lying around 😫
@@fede1275 are you gonna try the the super light ping Chinese tubes ?
@@RafalSto I don't know them, will try my luck with Ride Now TPU, maybe latex next?
@@fede1275 yeah that's one from China - ride now there are something around 30g each tube
@@RafalSto I will report when I get them
Hi Federico.
Honestly, how much of a difference did you feel in terms of comfort and speed (numerically) between butly (conti race28 ) and TPU?
Honestly you can feel it. I was disappointed about the replacement cost for the Pirelli, but I found the RideNow and I would not use anything else. They are fast
@@fede1275 Thank you. ... worked. good news. How long has it been without a flat tire?
@@RajzingerLaszlo__RL_Laci I had a great run up until January, where I had 3 or 4 in a row. But I pointed the blame to the softer Goodyear tyres I fitted on the Velobuild. Touch wood no problems with Continental
Che ruote monti sulla Canyon?
Ho delle ruote in carbonio Prime RR-50 V3, 50mm. Le ho prese anche per la Velobuild.
I bought two sets of those chinese tubes.
1- the ridenow the first time first time installed lasted quite some time however the big problem with the design was when you pump...them was a nightmare the valve came loose out of the tube itself got tired and went back to butyl.
😅
2- set was from another brand (green color ones) and were absolutely garbage the obus came loose out of the valve!!!
The valves were made out of cheap plastic and couldn't hold any air in the and the obus went flying across my living room.
I was thinking of buying these pirelli but i am kind of hold back, yes are expensive to get punctured being that amount of money.
So now i dont know 😂
I've been using RideNow for almost 6 months and I would not go back to butyl. They are light and fast. Valve a bit annoying with the track pump, but I can live with that.
Tubeless next? 🤔😏😏
Not in the immediate future, maybe one day
Io sto usando le camere Pirelli da qualche mese (oltre 4,000 km) con i copertoncini Pirelli 4S da 28 e non ho avuto nessuna foratura (ancora); tra l’altro viaggio spesso con pressioni colpevolmente basse; non so se sia fortuna o merito dell’abbinamento con gli pneumatici “invernali”
Si, sicuramente il fatto che i GP5000 siano mezzi consumati non aiuta di certo
We have a lot of road hazards where I'm at so they wouldn't work well for me then. .🤙
Of course 👍
Tubeless is just the best I use for years and no regrets
It looks like putting a liquid into a tube adds yet another step to the process, and another cost, and potential messiness so I will remain with the pedestrian, humble, unpretentious black rubber tubes.
Inner tube vein ready to explode
The vein is not happy 😂
You seem to talk as though a puncture means replacement. What is your experience with repair? (EVERY tube of mine has multiple patches by now!)
I usually don't repair normal tubes, I will end up repairing these tpu, even if I am not sure if I will trust them then.
how about latex?
I will try them on soon!
con tutte quelle forature in poco tempo secondo me il problema sta nel copertone e non nella camera d'aria
Forse si, ma non ci sono rotture evidenti. Non sono freschi, ma ancora si vedono i due punti di usura. Non credo che devo avere le gomme sempre nuove.
@@fede1275 allora è sfiga… 😅
@@alcor1 su quella ci si può contare sempre!!
You can't say I didn't warn you in a previous video. Those plastic tubes do not hold their own and you should only use them as the spare to get you home. You can carry two of them as spares and still save some grams over one butyl tube. But take it back off the bike when you get home. The marketing and temptation really sucks people in but the results for a lot of the lighter weight stuff is always the same. Disappointing. As for road tubeless, I've tried about 6 different brands of tires in 25c and 28c, and all the different sealants, over the coarse of 4 or 5 years and only once out of all the times I flatted did the sealant work and it only kept enough pressure in the tire for me to ride the bike gently and slowly back about 5 miles. That was a real pain in the butt too. I'm done with road tubeless and will never be tempted to try again.
Yes, you are right, unfortunately the temptation is there as they work well until they last. But they last for not too long...
I use Hutchinson and never let my down
Holy smokes! An expensive experiment Regular tubes with quality tyres is the only way. If I were still racing (I'm too old now unfortunately) of course I'd use them.
Absolutely correct!
I’ll never use Tubolito (or similar plastic tubes) again until I give in to the industry marketing men and buy a disc brake bike. After no more than half a km of descending off Galibier my front wheel inner tube exploded - sounded like a gunshot, immediately flat and caused me to crash. Thankfully I was not at high speed. I was carrying butyl spares and made it to the finish of L’Étape but descending very slowly. Buyer beware. The box indicates ok for rim brakes but not so in my experience
Definitely something to consider carefully, thanks.
hard to imagine how the properly installed non-elastic, small profile TPU tube can explode - too high pressure? or not properly seated tire? or part of TPU tube between the bead and rim? im using Tubolito Road S as a spare tube, but never ride on them thanks to tubeless - 2 years on tubeless - just 2 punctures without need of repair even without significant loss of pressure
That’s your own fault. You should know that TPU tubes can’t be used on rim brakes especially if it’s a carbon wheel. The RideNow tubes explicitly say that on their packaging not sure about Tubalito but it’s more common sense to me.
@@m.a.2282 that’s not what it shows on the Tubolito Road box, which clearly Indicates ok for use with rim or disc. Only warning is about temperature and to lower pressure if a hot day etc. in my view they’re too risky for rim brakes and the way the inner blew causing loss of control I personally won’t be trying them again. Latex far better and safer in my experience but we can all decide what we prefer!
You've been unfortunate with punctures, wouldn't blame the tubes as whatever it is is going through your tires, the tubes are secondary in resistance those 5000 are good tires
Absolutely, I believe running fresh tyres is the best puncture prevention. However at these prices I could not afford a bad run of luck. Now I'm using RideNow tpu tubes, cheap, light and fast.
Has to be German for me for reliability and performance. That’s why I go with Continental tubes 👍 🇩🇪
I agree on the tyres, but for the tubes I'm using RideNow tpu
Ill never ride tubes again! Nor will I ever ride behind someone riding tubeless lol!
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Vittoria Latex is the best.
I know, but I wanted something that holds air. I'm now running TPU RideNow tubes, they are great
@@fede1275 I pump my tyres before every ride, regardless.
@@tobimaxx I do every 3 or 4 rides, I ride every day also to commute
@@fede1275 I would still pump every day 🤷🏼♂️
How tubes increase or decrease puncture rate? They are not, if your tyre got stabbed, none of the tubes will help you from flat.
Cheap one from aliexpress are much better. More puncher proof and a little heavier.
I hope, mine seem to take ages to arrive!
You can only run tpu tubes with disc brake only not rim breaks
That's not what the manufacturers say. The one I use are for both rim and disc brakes
My experience mirrors yours, only with Tubolito's. The juice is not worth the squeeze.
Yes, too much 3 in a short period, too expensive.
These are delicate and easily punctured.. but will go into your emergency spare kit? This logic does not compute. In an emergency repair, I want a robust and strong spare kit.. something with good odds of safe journey home.
Inner tubes to me puncture in the same way with the right debris. I am thinking soft and worn tyres contribute the most to punctures. I'm using RideNow plastic tubes currently as they light, small and fast.
My thoughts exactly. I'd rather take a single butyl spare plus a patch kit than a couple of TPUs with generic design defects.
For that price,I'll stick with the classic tubes😁
Had to agree unfortunately...
Tubeless + dynaplug
Very unlucky or just a questionable product. I have been running Tubolito's for three years and no p .... .
I must have been really unlucky, but still the replacement price is too high. They are great as spare for the saddle bag.
tubeless on all bikes,, only carry a tube for emergencies. makes no sense to be using £26 tubes
I guess I learned the lesson...😫😄
I think my condoms are thicker than those tubes.
Safety first!
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