VFR800 Morning Commute
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2018
- Here is my new bike! Well....new to me. It's a 1998 Honda VFR800 and I take you on my morning commute. I'm apologizing in advance for the camera angle. It was set for my other bike and I forgot to adjust. I'd love to read other owners comments about their VFR's and I'm looking forward to featuring more of this bike on my channel! Let me know what you think!!
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This is the bike i want 98-2001 lovely looks and sound 👌
Wow, It's been so long since I've heard a stock one run, Nice.
nice bike, check your thermostat, could be stuck open. radiators each side increased the width but allowed the engine to be pitched forward more, 5th gen are the best vfr's ever made.
Interesting... my Y2K 5th gen doesnt have the 'choke / high idle lever', or the mirror boots.
It also had over 45,000 miles when I got it, but still purrrs like the king of the jungle!
The only things I changed are the seat (which I kept sliding forward on) and a Delkovic slip on (which really freed up some ponies, with the stock mapping, and sounds SO good, without being a great deal louder).
PS: I know I'm late to this party, but for anyone, on any bike, I highly recommend sticking a spare R/R under your seat. There are brand new aftermarket units available for like $25. I've burnt one up on EVERY VFR that I've had, including my 5th gen. Did one on a road trip on my Ninja, too. So don't wait till it happens. Because it WILL happen, if you ride enough, and it can take out other components. I had to replace some light bulbs, a relay and my battery the first time (due to over-charging / not regulating and rectifying the high voltage coming from the stator). The second time my bike just wouldn't run at all (due to not allowing current to pass, at all).
So if... I mean, WHEN your bike starts acting like it's out of gas, or your lights just get real bright, or they get real dim, or your gauges start to bounce erratically... you'll want to have one of these on hand. I also needed slightly longer screws for the replacement units on my 5th gen, and they didn't come with them or mention that. So beware.
It doesn't really matter how old, how new, how many miles, or how much you clean the bike and change the oil. Heat is what destroys electrical components, and a regulator /rectifier deals with heat every moment of its operating life, just by it's nature (as do all electrical components). So adding a cooling fan to the R/R is super easy, too. I pulled one from a scrapped computer (Who knew they were 12 volt direct plug and play!). VFR motors run pretty hot and the rear cylinders always seem to throw tons of heat right at the R/R. So I also run 'water wetter'. Every part of your engine will love you for it, and I've never burned another R/R after making these simple and affordable changes. But that doesn't mean I won't! So I still keep spares.
While I'm on the subject, it's also very easy to trouble shoot a potential charging issue with a free harbor freight multimeter, if the bike is running. Just set the dial to 20 volts, put your red lead on the positive battery terminal and your black lead on the negative battery terminal. Watch it at idle for a few seconds. Then hold the throttle at higher revs for a few seconds. The meter will show about 14 or 15 volts, if the system is properly charging. If at any point it goes over 16 volts, it is not 'regulating and rectifying' and it will start destroying things. If at any point its under 13, your components will sap up the available voltage, the battery will drain / discharge and there won't be enough left to produce a strong spark (back firing may also occur). Discharging could be from the stator or R/R not working. Over charging means your stator is working but your R/R isn't. I bring a multimeter to perform this simple test any time I'm buying a vehicle of any type. Furthermore, a battery can show 13 volts when standing alone and still not be able to produce the proper amperage required to make the motor run. So always start with a battery that you know is good. Just because the lights come on doesn't mean it's good.
DirtBike Dave some excellent advice right there 👍
The 98 and 99 had the "condom" mirrors and also the manual choke. As you noted the 2000 eliminated these.
Excellent info, all very helpful, I’ll be using this stuff. A big Thanks!!
Even smarter is to fit a permanent voltmeter to the bike and keep an eye on it. That way you never get surprised.
@@wirenut3020 having that diagnostic instrument is smarter than not having it, but it's like having a smoke detector. Chances are that some loss has ocurred by the time you can respond.
It's definitely smarter to have the physical solution that gets you, your bike, luggage and passenger (in some instances) back on the road in 5 minutes. A meter won't do that.
Just picked on of these up today, needs some work but motor runs flawlessly 👌 can’t wait to ride it
Such a sweet gem of a find... Brilliant bike for all round as you kinda mentioned. Def won't die and sounds Perla👌👏
I've got a 1999 , I've had it since 9000 miles. I love the bike, the sound, handling and reliability!!! mine's got held bar risers ,two brothers racing high mount chrome exhaust , Corbin seat with backrest, cowl and hand grabs.
Nice! I'd buy another. Especially an earlier generation.
I have an offer for '99 800 with 25900km for 1500 without title. The copy of the title would be 200. I think of buying it...maybe he even goes down a little bit with the price.
Whats your adivce?
@Hirthirthirt did you buy it?
I had one of these for 18 years. Amazing bike and never let me down.
Unfortunately I lost it in a stupid accident. Got the new version, but still getting used to it.
I miss the sound of the 2001 engine.
As for the light bulbs in the speedometer, I also had to change it.
Transmission as well. All the rest was tires, oil and filters (air and oil) and gas.
Very reliable bike. I just wished I had abs. Perhaps I would keep her for 18 years more...
Fuel injection, and choke .....?? 🤔
@@meridabike76 yes 2001 no choke lever just hit start.
Morning to you sir
Congrats on your new bike
Miss mine! Beautiful engineering 😍
Your review is simply delightful! Really enjoyed it as I am deeply interested in the VFR800. I currently ride a 2006 Honda CBR600f4i as my daily commute but the Mrs says she's not that comfortable as a pillion on it. So I was thinking about looking for a VFR800. Cheers and thanks for your review. 😉😀👍✌️👌
Good day, ws6man96, I just sub’d tonyour channel and watched this video. Welcome to the club, sir. I love my ‘98 vfr. I drove 650miles round trip to get mine in 2015. It had 30k miles on the meter. Not at 37k miles. Ive given it an oil change....that’s it. Not much to do. Previous owner had installed helibars, battery monitor for quick viewing of battery condition, grip heaters (need to fix the throttle heater, not working now), came with all the original tools under the seat, LED front turn signals I’m considered putting back in filament (incandescent) bulbs, replaced the tires (sorry, had the tires replaced at a shop), replaced both headlight bulbs on my own. That was tricky. ....more later.
Looking at one on Sunday. Nice bike man!
Thanx 4 the vid @ congrats on the Bike! I love original condition old classics!
That looks like a really lovely example of my favourite bike. I know you said you like to keep things stock but the only thing I changed on mine were the mirrors with those pain in the arse boots which never stay on. I replaced them with the mirrors from a Vtech (6th gen). It's a straight swap as they fit perfectly......
I agree with you! The mirror boots are very ugly and dont age well.
Nice video. The horn thing has happend to me several times at the beginning. Rectifier is the common problem with all bikes that have it placed hidden under the bodywork without good air flow. Previous owner replaced it with chinese one for 15$ but died in 4k km in the middle of the summer temperatures. We have a guy that made custom made rectifiers so I order one for 120$ and it's working very good, better than original regarding voltage stability, it's way bigger and heavier than original, and I put the Cooler master 80mm fan on it :)
Re: Engine servicing, you can use Honda (Car) filters, exact same dimensions but a deeper canister, hence more filter paper inside, also swap out the OEM oil sump drain plug for a quality Titanium one with a magnet pressed in it, you'll be surprised how much wear swarf it collects come next oil drop, or get a couple or rare earth magnets & stick em on oil filter, this will achieve same results, don't forget to remove em from old filter at service time... 5th Gen motors are pretty bullet proof, I always use Synthetic 4T bike specific Motul or Castrol Power 1 racing oil in mine.... also oil chain with extra thick chainsaw chain oil, lubes better than any rattle can chain lube, then adjust chain tension after oil has soaked in a while to release any stiff links.
Great bike, I now have all four 5th gens. I just love them. It started when I bought a new 2000, ugly yellow. I wasn't looking for another one, but a guy in a group I sometimes ride with was selling a 1999 VFR. I really liked it in red, so I bought it. Then came a 1998. And lastly, a 2001 VFR....My wife hasn't divorced me yet. I'm not pushing my luck with anything else though. The one you got looks great.
That's an awesome collection to have. I'd buy another if one comes up again in my area.
I desperately want one of these I've been relentlessly trying to get ahold of someone selling one near me that hasn't been on the sale site for a bit lol. They're so beautiful great HP good torque comfortable seat height and foot position. I'm in love with these bikes!
They are hard to find and yes they are a great all around bike. The sound is also intoxicating.ha Hope you find one!
Still kicking myself for not driving 4 hours to pick up a 5th gen with about 60k, for $1500.
I have a 2000 vfr 76000 miles and still going strong.
Purchased a VFR800Fi 2000 Plate on Monday being delivered on Friday, Looking forward to it, Haven't ridden for around 6 years, last bike was a Kawasaki GPZ500, First big bike ever for me.
I have the same bike. Great all around bike.
Nice video, I have the same bike, same year and same color. I love my cat face looking bike. And I dont have the intention to change for a new one. Regards.
I had a brand new 1996 with carburetors. The only thing I did was a yoshimira zyclone slip on and the corresponding jet kit. And had I kept it, it went for a bathroom renovation,35in Sony tv and livingroom furniture. I would have replaced the forks with some late
model off a cbr 1000 and an ohlins shock. I'm an ex racer and can feel what is needed by the seat of the pants. After that I would never touch anything else ever. Those bikes are the epitome of "street/touring" bike. The gear drive is the bomb and the guy who sold it to you is most likely crying and hating life right now. The replacement rectifier has cooling fins. The original does not. Don't ever sell it cuz you will never do better. Peace brother.😁😁😁
Sweet looking bike. For the clutch try removing the slave cylinder (make sure you don't let the piston pop out - a cable tie works well.) Then remove the clutch push rod and clean off any build up. Give the rod a polish then a light grease and reinstall the rod and slave cylinder. Bleed the clutch line with fresh fluid and all should be lovely.
Thanks for the tip. I think you are correct and I need to take a look at the cylinder and exchange for new fluid.
I have been noticing that my clutch reservoir site glass is crazing. I think I need to replace it soon.
Planning on painting the wheels white. I have the front wheel off to replace a flat tire and I may as well change the color while I am at it. White gloss and a gloss clear coat.
You can pull some old clutch fluid out of reservoir by using syringe but don't go so low you risk getting air in line then hard to bleed. After a few rides do it again pull some out then add this way you don't have to worry about air and bleeding. Bleeding brakes isn't that hard but have to follow right procedure
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I, too, have a ‘98 VFR. It has 36,152 miles on the odo. It had 30k when I bought it in 2015. I drove 650 miles, round trip, to get it. I knew I wanted this 5th gen Vfr for all that it offered and the price was very affordable. The previous owner did instill a desktop computer ‘squirrel’ fan right on top of the R/R to aid in its survivability. It already had heli bars added and grip heaters. Although, the throttle heater is not operational anymore. I haven’t had the time, nor the need to find out why. There is an awful paint job making a silly a$$ gray triangle on both sides of the fairing reaching up and onto the tank. I’m afraid of attempting to remove it in the fear of taking off the original red paint the bike came with. Changing a headlight bulb is an endeavor. One was not working after a few years of ownership, but I replaced both. Ya’ know, you don’t want to have to break back into replacing the other bulb when it burns out. Just do both at the same time. I was not lucky enough to have the grab handles either. Frown. I did get the two piece Corbin seat that was aftermarket for it with the original two-up seat it came with from the factory. The pillion cowling is there, too. Has the original muffler. The windscreen was painted black. So, no sun gets to the instrument cluster. Don’t know why it was painted black, but it was and I have not changed it. Not much else to say save that I love my Vfr as you do. Enjoy the ride. Don’t forget, it has the linked brake system too.
Thanks for the cool story on your VFR too!!
Always wanted one
I heard this is the Apex Predator of all the VFR's..
I love my Z900RS Cafe. But I'm currently looking for a work commuter on the older side, so I don't have to worry about it getting rained on or scratched and dinged. A 1999 VTR & 1999 VFR are currently for sale in my area. I do remember these bikes and love how they look. VFR's had very good reviews by the big magazines of their time. The VFR was especially praised for their reliability and commutability. Do you still own it? If so, what do you think about it know after racking up some miles on it?
I just bought a 2000 vfr800! It has 82,000 miles on it but it's still a champ to me...
You got a great bike there, I myself have a 1998 one thats now done 62000 and it still has the original clutch! Just don't skimp on oil changes!
i have a 2000 (yellow) put the delkevic exhaust on, much sweeter exhaust note...only issue is that rear brake, seems a tad 'weak' probably due to linked brakes
How does the vfr800 feel and handles at highway speeds, 80 mph ? ? ?
Have you taken care of the orange earth block on the left side of the bike yet?
Delkevic 14' stubby 350M is all you need brother and worth every penny of $220- end of story, you'll love it. Personal preference, dont do the 9' stubby- too MotoGP high whine sounding.. the 14' has just the right amount of rumble and volume.. the bike will sound AMAZING>
Thanks for the recommendation! I've been planning to get the Delkevic 14" SL10 High Mount Round slip on actually. I am hoping to do an install video as well to post. Stay tuned!!
I put the delkevic ss70 high mount slip-on on mine. It sounds amazing. Well worth the $230
Hi from Greece.
I'm getting a 1999 vfr 800 tomorrow morning!
Nice ride and nice riding but please mate, when you stop at a traffic light, put it in to neutral to avoid clutch fatigue. 👍
That's awesome! Thanks for the tip, I do sometimes but I like to keep it in gear in case I ever have to get out of the way quickly.
@@ws6man96 that's correct! Safety first! I traded my brand new 2015 cb300r with 5000km for a 2001 VFR800. At first I missed how agile the 300 was, but I'm happy with my 5th Gen. Congrats on picking up a clean VFR!
I have a VFR 800 RC46, but the most desirable VFR for me is the RC36 I (90-93).
What jacket and gloves are you wearing in this video?
the engine temperature (as you probably know by now) typically runs at 180F on the highway and can go up to 220F when stuck in traffic, and this is normal. the dual radiators handle everything perfectly. if yours is still running 160F at cruise, you may need a new thermostat - if accurate , 160 is too cold. replace the voltage regulator before it fails. a grreat commuter bike.
I have one just like this one in video . It is stock and looks like she came from factory today .
Excuse my ignorance but I haven’t seen a fuel injected bike or car with a choke. I have an 01 with 12,000 miles. Same bike basically but Injected with no choke. No car or bike I’ve had with FI has ever had a choke. Am I missing something?
I own a 2001. It's the best road bike. 800-1000 miles a day unless you are a softee. Bought it with 18k..cross country at 100mph+ for most of it. Never let me down. Great bike,not for stunters..no joke.
I don't understand. fuel injected but has a choke?
Bike is a sure bet! I made some adjustments to the suspension and tires and she came alive
What kind of adjustments?
@@zingymantella590 lighter fork oil. Raise the spring rate in the rear
@@douglaswilliams1792 did you replace the spring in the rear? Or are you still running the stock rear suspension?
Bikes with fuel injection have a "choke"?
Picked up a mint 99 a couple of months ago with 4 k miles on it from original owner in the Midwest. Went 170 miles one-way to pickup. Waiting for weather to improve for new Dunlop Sportmax and delkevic exhaust to go on.
Awesome find! I put a delkevic high mount slip on 14" oval exhaust on. Gave me the sound I was looking for. Enjoy!!
@@ws6man96 that's the same exhaust I went with 14 oval high mount. Do you run with or without baffle?
@@donrobertson6940 I installed it without the baffle. It's not obnoxiously loud. My only complaint is how the mid pipe is routed has now made it hard to remove the back wheel.
Nice review! What kind of helmet? Sounds great, nice and clear.
Thank you! It's an old HJC CL SP. But I use a Sena 20s bluetooth communications system that records direct into my Sena Prism Action Camera. Check you my new helmet review when I post a video of it soon. It's an HJC Rpha 70st
I have a 2002 only 18 k miles sweet
There is a 98 listed near me. good condition and 34k miles. $3600. good deal?
People complain about the rear brake it's because maintenance hasn't been done. And no you don't need to put bike in nuteral at stop, leave in gear so ready to go doesn't hurt clutch. Man if reservoir is low put some fluid in now easy.
NIce video. Just one thing...could you lift the camera a bit? I like to see the on coming road.
:)
Thanks for the comment and subscribing. I realized after the camera angle was messed up. It was set for my other bike that's more upright.
Hello there. Did you managed to sort out the clutch? I have exactly the same problem with my vfr and nothing seems to cure it
Flush & top up fluid...easy fix.
Would this be a good beginner bike? 27 and I'm pretty mature. I don't plan on ever wheeling or taking it to the track. I just really love the design!!
You have plenty of other bikes more suitable for beginners. This is not 100% suitable as your very first bike, however you can get used to it pretty quickly, but you do have to be careful at first. The seating position is sporty meaning leaning forward.
@@tomasjanik7590 thanks for the heads up. I think I'm gonna start with a Suzuki DR200
Do you happen to know what brand your rear seat cowl is? I've been looking around for one for my 5th gen with not much luck
As far as I know it is the factory seat cowl that came on it new.
Its stock that came from factory as well as grab rails. You can sometimes find them on eBay but a bit costly. That make the bike look cool.
Man I can't find these for the life of me. If you ever consider selling it please let me know man. Will be getting my actual license in a few weeks.
One exhaust?
I have a 98 that I just got and the rear brake pedal is like a brick hard with very little actuation and not much in the way of rear braking stopping power either. How is yours?
Mine seemed to work fine without being able to compare it to another. I would check all your linkages and moving points for the rear brake actuation as well as fuild flow through the reservoir. Put the bike on the center stand put the bike in gear and use the rear brake and see how it stops without the weight of the bike.
The rear brake on my 1999 vfr6is pretty poor as well..
Somehow though, I kinda like it. Knowing that if I'm in a corner a bit too quick, I can stand on it knowing that it won't lock up and throw me down the road. It definitely scrubs off some speed, but not a whole lot!!!
nice bike you gonne love it minne is a 2001
Sweet! I really do. From the first few hundred feet test riding the bike I fell in love.ha
Just bought a 99 with 34k last weekend. Headlight was not working. Had to replace the start stop switch. I like it so far. Has a small slip on that is too loud.. Would love to find a stock muffler.
My headlight switch can be finicky too. I might take it apart and spray no contact electric cleaner on it since there might be some corrosion on the terminals. I'm sure Ebay has some original mufflers. They are super heavy.ha I have a delkevic high mount slip on now but will keep the stock muffler.
@@ws6man96 Mine has a 13 inch slip on. Way too loud. I have had Delkevic before. I am considering an 18 inch. I had 13's on my Concours and they were pretty loud.
@@ws6man96 The switch was only $80 with shipping from Babbitts. Tip: remove the cable pulley from the throttle body to give yourself some slack to.get the cables off the throttle handle.
@@dennisthemenace49 Babbits in Muskegon MI?
@@rodster5128 Babbits online OEM parts.
The choke killed me...
chokes are used with carbed bikes, right?
Historically, yes. However, some of the early fuel injection systems still had a manual choke.
yeah this bike has an idle set where the choke typically would be. Just another unique feature on the bike.
Its not a choke as in the old carbed motors, its a fast idle lever.
Nice looking one I have a 98 vfr800fi rc46 myself in red the same as your one,mine has 47000 miles still runs and purrs great only issue I have had was the rectifier fried and renewed the clutch and the usual prob with f1 light coming on which was due to the multi plug which is a common problem it is located near the rectifier and is just a plug of the harness with 12 wires in it that come to an end in the plug apart from that no issues with the bike I love it,I wouldn’t recommend putting fully synthetic oil tends to make the clutch slip after a bit I use semi synthetic in mine,good video though happy days, John in Scotland UK
Im confused. Why would it have a choke it its fuel injected? Chokes are for carbureted bikes?!
It's not a choke, it's a fast idle.
A choke restricts the air making the bike run richer, a fast idle adds fuel and the system compensates, both methods increase the idle speed but go about it differently.
fuel injection with choke??
I always hit that horn too and people look at me like what a douche.
How's the bike going now?
Good! Just preparing it with some maintenance before the new riding season!
Hi from the uk i have a 4th generation 750 which at the moment is in the garage dreaded charging problem on alot of vfr. 4th generation the best .lol.
Neil Widdison it could possibly be your reg rec its a common issue with the vfr or a little less common your stater
Injection and choke ????
สุดยอดเลย Nice
I’m thinking about buying one the same year 11000 miles very good shape I’m just wonder though if it will need work cause of the age
Check anything that youd check on any other bike buying used. Wheel bearings, oil level, how it smells, sprockets, fork seals, tires, listen for odd noises. With only 11k there shouldnt be much wrong! Hopefully!!!
Thanks far the advice he’s asking 2500 Obo It’s ether this are the 91-03 Nighthawk750
@@chadschrum1306 that's about going price. Make sure the headers are really rusted. The Nighthawk 750 is a good bike but nothing compared to what the VFR is like.
You still got this VFR?
Yep
@@ws6man96 Good. You still enjoying it? In your previous video of it which was ages ago, you said you would make more with it.
Bleed the clutch first.. if it is still at the end.. its worn plates. Only 50 quid and replace it yourself.. its simple enough
It's a injection with choke? 🤔
Yes, the early 5th generation of the VFR had manual chokes. Some other early fuel injection systems such as on the Kawasaki Z750S also had a manual chokes to start.
Honda X11 has the same injection type. And it’s a gem of a bike, too bad they gave up on it.
It's not truly a 'choke', it's just called a choke colloquially. It's actually an idle speed adjuster, before they invented electronic idle speed adjustment, they just stuck one on the bars. It's really useful, especially as some bikes you have to remove the fairings and use a screwdriver to adjust idle.
Hey big dog I’m in northern cali I’ve got a collection of these girls if your around hmu