@@GrayMinemanLOL yes it is. Because it doesn’t matter at all. That’s fan perspective that has zero to do with his value. You don’t win mvp because of something irrelevant like your age. His age might have helped him win the favor of the voters it but it’s not really a relevant reason to win the award.
@@kyekyk exactly plus look at his percentage when Iggy guarded him too and before. Plus steph was cold 2 games. For a finals MVP to be on losing team it needs to go to 7 games
It’s about the facts not feelings. Facts are other players deserved it over time that year, just because his career was tarnished by injury doesn’t change the facts
I get that his stats weren't the best compared to other MVPS but D-Rose deserved that MVP just as much as anybody so don't disrespect him. Also keep in mind Steve Nash won MVP without even averaging 20 points a game.
Unfortunately I don’t think if it wasn’t for narrative he would have won the award. Other players deserved it over him that year. People just have a hard time admitting it because of how his career turned out
D rose, with alot of his teammates dealing with injuries and missing time, managed to get 25ppg, be the floor general and primary playmaker to propel the bulls to the first 60 win season since MJ played. If you wanna talk about skill for determining "worst", then since that season was rose's peak, by skill alone he can eclipse a lot of players with good arguement as I don't know a lot of mvp players who'd have done similar in his situation. Not even factoring in his age and competition.
@@garrettowner6006 05 Nash, 06 Nash, 73 Cowens, 69 Unseld, if we are going by the how egregious the snub was, rather than the quality of season of the MVP winner, then 98 Malone over Jordan should be mentioned. Rose should not have won in 2011, but he also should not be considered the "worst MVP".
@@bodinhanson780 no it's cause he carried the bulls to the best record since mj with all of his productive role players missing time. This was 2011, no one was chucking up constant 3s and bench players weren't scoring 50 pieces
@@alexndrtrash thanks for proving my point. People who think he deserved mvp have to right a whole essay to prove that he deserved it. He is definitely the worst mvp ever.
Steve Nash’s two years were much worse the Derrick roses. You failed to mention how he made the bulls relevant again for the first time since Jordan and led them to a regular season high in wins. Horrible take
@@Kiernanglynn20 completely different situations because Nash went to phenoix as a free agent and did it in the same year he got there rose had time to gel with that team
If you said you are only judging from the skillset of the award, you should have only regarded the player's rookie season when you picked the worst player to win the ROTY.
Derrick Rose brought so much value to the bulls, its called most valuable player for a reason, it doesn't matter what stats they have if they are contributing to the team that heavily
@@Mallymal1 he is sadly cause injuries derailed his career. But at the time, it was reasonable to give to him. Even had a better record than the heat, and they had Lebron, Wade and Bosh.
I would argue that itshould be Westbrook with this title, not Rose. The only reason the bulls lost in the first round was because rose got hurt. The game what he was injured, bulls won that game. I respect that Westbrook has a never quit attitude, but his game virtually had not changed. I feel like we see the same thing every year from him, and he actually got worse since he doesn't have a 3pt shot
@@christophertom5552 how? First this list is based on the mvp season they won and although I don’t think d rose should’ve been the worst, westbrook shouldn’t be either just because of the triple double season while leading the league in scoring. Second as much as I love d rose if we’re looking at their entire careers westbrook just has accomplished more and is the more impressive player. while it’s true that d rose got injured that doesn’t discredit what westbrook has done thru his career
Wes was one of the best rookies in history, Wes deserved that MVP and is one of the best players in history, the least MVP should’ve went to Dave Cowens
Nah worst MVP was definitely Nash’s ‘05-‘06 season. Averaged 18 points and 10 assists and shot 50-40-90, while Lebron was averaging 30-7-7 still shooting nearly 50% from the field and 33% from 3, and Kobe was averaging 35-5-5 a game. Nash only won it because he was the best player on the first seeded team, if the suns weren’t the best team in the league that year he most definitely would not have won the MVP
@@OmarWkbari That's what Rookie of the Year is invented for. A guy who averaged 13.8 PPG (47th in the NBA that year) has no business winning MVP. Oh and btw his team had 2 other All-Stars who outscored him (Earl Monroe & Gus Johnson) so you can't even argue he was so "valuable" to his team like the people defending D-Rose.
When he says the least best MVP he means theri overall career Wes Unseld is a top 50 player ever and so is Dave Cowens and Derrick Rose outside of 2011 has done Jack shit
@BDK Chicago No the he wasn’t, Lebron couldn’t even lead his team to a better record than the injury riddled Bulls and Lebron had a Big 3. Rose 2nd and 3rd best players Noah and Boozer missed half the season.
@@Jman511x these fools don’t actually watch basketball. Ain’t no way in hell Lebron should’ve gotten that MVP. The odds were stacked in favor of the Heat. Rose really came outta no where and stunned the whole League, with less help than the top ten teams. I respect you for knowing your stuff & standing up for Rose 🌹 💪🏽
@DB63 being 22 didnt matter! What mattered is that even tho Roses numbers werent as good as LeBrons! He led the Bulls to the playoffs and with a better record than the Heat! And btw LeBron's Miami Heat had the Big three and yet they couldnt match the Bulls Seasons Record!!
Lebron had a better season and if D Rose wasn’t 22 at the time he wouldn’t have won it. It was and MVP for a 25 ppg season and he led the to best seed in the east that was all if he was 28 it wouldn’t have won him or anyone an MVP award.
@@jeremyb3612 lebron didnt have a better season tho💀 lebron had a big 3, rose was almost on his own which makes him more valuable hence name of the award most VALUABLE player, on top of that he swept lebron in this season series 3-0 and had the best record in the league, scoring stats do not prove value in the mvp award, winning in the regular season does
@@Yxbby Lebron averaged one less point, 3 more rebs, the same amount of assists, better all around defender. The better player. Derrick Rose only won 4 more games. Ofc ppl with your mindset think superteam and say he didn’t deserve it but Bron was the best player in the nba the entire heat run. Also the bulls had an insane team but the MVP is about who had the best season, team wins are highly valued ofc but Russell Westbrook showed that it doesn’t matter if your team is a top 3 seed aslong you got the stats.. hence why Lebron should’ve won.
@@Yxbby In 2008 should they have given the MVP to someone on Boston because the higher record over Kobe no of course not, so I fail to see your point..
@@nomnom9992 that’s incredible, of course there was inflation for those stats back in the day but in terms of every single MVP ever he’s the weakest of them all
Y’all play too much, D-rose totally had that mvp in the bag, and he was the youngest to ever do it. It’s already super impressive to win MVP, but being the youngest to ever win the award, that’s the most impressive part about it
Also, look at lebron % in that finals. He had to work a lot to get his points. The same history can apply to players that was guard by rodman, they always had an awful %
The FMVP has never been given out to the best defender it was always given out to the player who attributed the most to winning games and therefore it should have went to Curry, it’s ridiculous that iggy won it and not Curry
@@timisjim2711 in my opinion igoudala contributed the most by being a pretty good offensive player and also stopping lebron as good as possible, if iggy wasn’t defending bro he would average like 45
If we're talking about their numbers (and simply just THEIR numbers/stats. Not the whole team record) of that particular season. Here. Worst Rookie of the Year: 2001 Mike Miller Worst MVP: 2005 Steve Nash Worst Finals MVP: 1978 Wes Unseld Worst Sixth Man of the Year: 1983 Bobby Jones Worst Most Improved player: 1997 Isaac Austin Worst Defensive Player of the Year: 1987 Michael Cooper Edit: I am talking about here they're NUMBERS/STATS ONLY. Not about the impact they did when they got there or if they became champion on that season. Just simply STATS. I am also only considering players after the NBA/ABA merger. (And one of my favorite players is Steve Nash but I really thought Dirk or Duncan was supposed to have the MVP in 2005, if you look at their stats only)
@_1TA _ I agree with 2006 Steve Nash. Now that year for him was his true MVP stats. With Cousy, it's hard to judge them on that era, even with numbers, because they were only like 10 teams before the 1976 merger.
The Suns improved by 33 wins in 05, and Nash was the only major addition. They also had the 2nd best relative offensive rating in league history (behind the 04 Mavs who Nash had been on the previous year), I don't think you can say he's the worst MVP ever.
This is what happens when you primarily look at basketball through stats or overly rely on those stats. I've seen players averaging 10p/game being better than another scoring 30/game. Don't get me wrong, stats are a part of the game and are important but it doesn't give you the overall picture.
@@bamshakfwangyil1301 theres plenty, he could have gave it to curry in 2015, this dude is going based off of stats and that season curry averaged 23.8 points per game, playoff performance is not a factor in the mvp award, this dude forgot that rose lead his team to the best record in the nba and swept the miami heat in the season series, he was probably the best player to watch in the nba
Honestly I feel like people blow roses season way out of proportion. He wasn’t even the best player that year lmao some people get caught up there feelings and forget. His season was great but cmon he wasn’t even the best player that year. If we used the same formula to pick an MVP every year. Devin booker would’ve won it this year and we all know that isn’t right.
I’d take Steve Nash, Wes Unseld or Bill Walton as the worst player to win MVP. Bill Walton only played 58 games for him to Win MVP at least Rose played most of the year.
The reason why Chandler won defensive player of the year was because he took a bottom tier Knicks defense into a an elite top 10 defense overnight, teams were scoring almost 10 points less whenever he was on the floor. His defensive style wasn't to lock down his man or secure the paint which leads to a nice stat total but be aware of where everyone is on the court and fill in any potential gaps, the Knicks were very aggressive on defense simply because they knew that if they made a mistake Chandler would be there to cover for them. Chandler is the definition of doing all the little things that don't show up on the stat sheet
1:15 no, everyone knew he was putting up empty stats on a horrible team. nobody dared to predict his future, because the season was so meaningless. he didnt even have good percentages.
mvp is for regular season, in the regular season Rose averaged 25 points, 7.7 assists and 4.1 rebounds and bill Walton 18.9 points, 13.2 rebounds, 5.0 assists, and 2.2 blocks and just look at the difference between the seasons: Bulls season 2009-2010 (1 year before derrick's mvp): 41-41. 2010-2011 (mvp season): 62-20 best record in NBA. Blazers season 1 year before Walton's mvp: 49-33. Blazers season (Walton's mvp) : 58-24
@joceja23 Bill Walton's career was spoilt by several injuries: he won a second title with the Celtics in 1986, 9 years after the one with Portland, as a replacement for Robert Parish
Go actually watch the 2015 finals. LBJ was playing at a level we have rarely seen from any player ever and Iggy did play very good d in that series. Klaw won FMVP for mostly the same reason in 2014 also. Simply looking at basic analytics to make all these videos results in often missing relevant context.
Kawhis defense definitely factors into his FMVP in 2014 but he was also almost tied for top scoring on his team, and shot 60% from the field and 50% from 3. Iggy averaged 16 per game, 10 points less than Curry, and sure his defense was good, but not THAT good, Because Lebron still was doing what he always does, dropping 30 and nearly having a triple double, maybe he wasn’t as efficient from the field but he also didn’t have his two best players for that whole finals almost and they were his teams other main scoring options, lebron had nearly 200 FGA that series, because he had to shoot more, aside from maybe JR smith that cavs team had no good scoring options. You can look back at many teams with only one scorer and usually that player has a lower fg% because they take significantly more shots
I think were confusing the "MVP Award" With being the best player. Steph was clearly the best player last season but everyone knew he didnt deserve the mvp award due to his teams lack of wins. Steve Nash was a great player, but even D Rose at 22 had better stats than Nash at MVP
Excatly what i was thinking steve nash had 2 other Allstars on his team and d rose only had 1. He lead his team to the 1 seed over the LeBron and dwade lead heat. If he just didn't like d rose say that but its definitely other ppl you could have picked
individual player stats don’t determine the mvp, because derrick rose lead his team to the best record in the nba and swept the miami heat in the season series he won the mvp, plus 25 points per game as a 22 year old was better than what curry did in 2015 when he won mvp, if the bulls beat the miami heat in the conference finals in 2011 this wouldn’t even be a debate but ppl are dumb
Derrick Rose was 22 in his 3rd year, he was the ONLY all star on his team and led the Bulls to the best record in the ENTIRE NBA. BTW, the Bulls went 41-41 in Derricks first 2 seasons. Now back to 2010-2011, If y’all don’t remember. Lebron finished 3rd in MVP voting behind Dwight Howard. So if Rose didn’t deserve it, Howard did. Back to Rose v James. Lebron did have the better stats, 27 7 7 50% vs 25 7 4 44%, but Lebron also had 2 top 10 players on his team; 25ppg D Wade & Bosh avg 18ppg. Meanwhile 17ppg Boozer missed the first 20games and Noah who only avg 11pts and 10reb missed 40 games. 17ppg Luol Deng didn’t make the allstar team and the Bulls starting SG was 4ppg Keith Bogans. I’m going to say again, He was the only all star on his team at 22 and had the best record not just the Eastern Conference but the best in the ENTIRE NBA, at 22!!!!his 3rd year!! A NBA filled with: Spurs- 3 all stars Heat- 3 all stars OKC- 2 all stars Celtics- 4 all stars Lakers-2 all stars Imagine if 4th year Brandon Ingram won MVP being the only all star while Zion/Lonzo missed 20-40 games and led them to the best record in the whole NBA. an NBA filled with: Lakers-2 all stars Clippers- 2 all stars Bucks- 2 all stars 76ers- 2 all stars Utah- 2 all stars Lastly, how does Lebron deserves the 2011 MVP when he said himself it belongs to Rose. www.espn.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=6274778
Dude failed to mention that DRose made the Bulls a 62 win team with the number 1 record that season! In the same conference as the Heat & Celtics both have 3 HOF & company! Rose was unguardable! He was the youngest player on his team with all the responsibility. Played both ends of the floor and played 81 games. Worst MVP would have to be someone in the 70s or 80s where the competition is far less.
Thank you for putting drose as the worst player to win mvp, nothing agaisnt rose or anything, but people really talk like his mvp season were better than they actually were
Glen Rice had a great game that night. I'm glad he beat out the GOAT MJ for MVP. He played like a MVP that whole season. I remember he stop shooting 3s that season and started dunking more(playing in the paint)
Worst MVP ever is EASILY Wes Unseld in 1968. The dude averaged 13.8 PPG, 18.2 rebounds and 2.6 assists for a team that had 2 other All-Stars and still got swept in the 1st round.
Come on Derrick rose deserved that mvp if he never got injured he would still be putting those numbers up and the bulls maybe would have a championship
I'm a little tired of the Iggy slander, dude won with 16/6/4 on 59% True Shooting while holding LeBron to 48% True Shooting as his primary defender (yes Draymond helped).That's not that impressive but he lead or was second in every box stat and played great defense. The worst is Cedric Maxwell who won putting up 18/10/3 on 61% True Shooting and wasn't anywhere close to the leading defender on anybody important. Curry deserved it over Iggy, but LeBron "averaging 40" on terrible efficiency bears mention.
I don’t think it’s fair to put Micheal Carter Williams as the worst to win roty because if you are subjecting to him to just that awards like you said in the beginning of the video he would definitely not have the worst rookie year to win roty, for that it just seems like your subjected their career to the award and not his rookie season like you should have
The Worst MVP Has to be Any MVP who’s team didn’t make the playoffs, not the 22 year old who picked up a failing franchise and put it on his back to carry them to their first playoffs since Jordan
Lol. I can tell you didn't watch nba in 2011 if your only argument is his stats. D rose practically single handedly carried that bulls squad to the #1 seed winning 62 games. He was absolutely insane in 2011 and made some moves that were amazing. D rose completely deserved mvp that year.
Fun fact: MVP just doesn't include stats, but it also includes leadership. D Rose led his team to a 60-win 1st seed in back-to-back years. If someone like Chris Paul or Giannis or Tatum was so good, why didn't they win the MVP? Maybe because of circumstances. Jokic had no Murray or MPJ, and still led the Nuggets to the playoffs, while Giannis, Tatum, and Paul were expected to make it
I 100% agree Tyson shouldn't be a defensive player of the year at all, That award should of went to Dwight Howard, How ever, Marc Gasols defensive player of the year a couple years later was waaaaaaaayyy worse
The Worst MVP was Bill Russel on 1961 he averaged to 18 Points compared to wilt at that time who averaged just 50 Point Per Game :) he also placed somewhere around fifth in that voting ;)
This guy must be a bronsexual. How can Rose be the worst when Malone(won against MJ), Barkley(MJ), Magic(MJ), Magic( Barkley, 90-91), Dr. J(Bird) won when they were inferior to the real winners?! And Iggy might not be the real FMVP(Curry) but he let lebron shoot the Cavs out of the finals. Lebron average 33FGA, 40% FG, 31% 3FG on 3.5 TO with a 2.5 assist to turnover ratio(that is unacceptable as the median for this is 3) . That is big inefficiency out there, that is blatant statpadding. That major drop off in efficiency is because Iggy held him to 24% FG. I get it that there is no Love or Irving out there but there are other offensive threats on his team. He makes his teammates better is one of the biggest myths out there. He did a sloppy job on this series
In the 2015 Finals, LeBron scored 35.8 per game, but he only shot 40% from the field and put up a 47.7% TS%. As a defense, you live with that output every time. GSW loses that series if Iguodala held LeBron to league-average TS%. As for what else Iguodala did that series, he was the team's second-leading scorer, as Klay Thompson was not particularly good. Iguodala had better FG%, 3PT%, and TS% than Curry while defending LeBron. He had a positive +/- every game that series, and GSW won three in a row to close the series after inserting Iggy into the starting lineup. Nobody stepped up his game better than Iguodala did, and while that doesn't mean he became GSW's most important player (it's always Curry), it's a real impact toward winning. Are you saying Glen Rice was the worst player to win All-Star MVP, or his performance was the worst to win All-Star MVP? He put up 24 points in a quarter, setting an All-Star Game record. That's why he won. And I'd argue he's also not the worst player to win All-Star MVP, either. I might give that to Randy Smith. And I'd take Derrick Coleman over a guy like DeAndre Jordan who actually got FIRST TEAM ALL-NBA. He has as many First-Team All-NBA selections as Patrick Ewing. Let that sink in for a moment.
How was Rose’s MVP narrative driven? Unless the narrative is that Rose led his injury riddled team to the best record in the NBA, with his 2nd and 3rd best players Noah and Boozer missing half the season. With Rose being the only player that year to finish in the top 10 in points and assists, while being apart of the best defense in the league, winning all his PG matchups. C’mon dude really?
The fact that he said Derrick roses mvp was the worst of all time shows me a lot abt this man’s basketball knowledge. Rose WAS the bulls back then. At age 22 he was the entire franchise, he played all games that season on all those averages and they definitely would not have even been a playoff team without him. The amount of disrespect.
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was unseld won mvp his rookie year averaging 14 points and never made a all nba team ever again
@@leronejoseph6494 not just 14 pts but 17 rebs which is impressive for a 6.7 Center
@@nomnom9992 please check the pace of the game back then and also check wilt and bill numbers and team sucess.
Derrick Rose averaged 25 ppg and led his team to the best record in the league at the age of 22, if that ain't great, then nothing is
Facts.
If you take out the age then it ain’t that great
@@hectorwatt9712 but it happened at that age and thats something you can’t take away
@@GrayMinemanLOL yes it is. Because it doesn’t matter at all. That’s fan perspective that has zero to do with his value. You don’t win mvp because of something irrelevant like your age. His age might have helped him win the favor of the voters it but it’s not really a relevant reason to win the award.
by that logic, bron should have won mvp in 2020 because he was 36.
Iguodala defended LeBron James so well that James came close to being the second player from a losing team to win finals MVP.
If it went 7 games I could give it to lebron. But Andre wasn't undeserving
@@paulz4667 Exactly Steph should have won it but he is gonna get his finals mvp this year hopefully
Isaiah Roberts that is not what he is saying
@@zay2920 he is saying that if the finals went to 7 games then he would give it to Lebron but iggy didn’t not deserve it
@@kyekyk exactly plus look at his percentage when Iggy guarded him too and before. Plus steph was cold 2 games. For a finals MVP to be on losing team it needs to go to 7 games
The fact the Derrick Rose is on here is truly insulting. He’s been broken down enough, he earned that MVP.
It’s about the facts not feelings. Facts are other players deserved it over time that year, just because his career was tarnished by injury doesn’t change the facts
He didn’t earn it
@@catwithablog9916 He could have won more if not for injuries. But that year , he absolutely earned it. The worst mvp should have been steve nash
And you have to guard him so with out him there not top 3 seed
No disrespect or insult to rose
But there’s no player who’s ever won the MVP that rose is better than
I get that his stats weren't the best compared to other MVPS but D-Rose deserved that MVP just as much as anybody so don't disrespect him. Also keep in mind Steve Nash won MVP without even averaging 20 points a game.
But Kobe Averaged 35.4 ppg and was 36.5% of the Lakers offense in 2005-06
D rose wasn’t even a top 5 player when he won it
Unfortunately I don’t think if it wasn’t for narrative he would have won the award. Other players deserved it over him that year. People just have a hard time admitting it because of how his career turned out
@@JEWWMODE The Top 5 players in the NBA in 2011 were Kobe,Bron,KD,D-Rose, and Dwight Howard...... only one of them won MVP that year.
@@titanplayer3021 cmon now this is 2010-11 melo just got to this knicks which was prime knicks melo and dirk winning finals mvp that season
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D rose, with alot of his teammates dealing with injuries and missing time, managed to get 25ppg, be the floor general and primary playmaker to propel the bulls to the first 60 win season since MJ played. If you wanna talk about skill for determining "worst", then since that season was rose's peak, by skill alone he can eclipse a lot of players with good arguement as I don't know a lot of mvp players who'd have done similar in his situation. Not even factoring in his age and competition.
Name a worse mvp year
@@garrettowner6006 05 Nash, 06 Nash, 73 Cowens, 69 Unseld, if we are going by the how egregious the snub was, rather than the quality of season of the MVP winner, then 98 Malone over Jordan should be mentioned.
Rose should not have won in 2011, but he also should not be considered the "worst MVP".
Simply but it this way, his stats ain’t mvp like, but first all nba like. The only reason he won mvp was his age
@@bodinhanson780 no it's cause he carried the bulls to the best record since mj with all of his productive role players missing time. This was 2011, no one was chucking up constant 3s and bench players weren't scoring 50 pieces
@@alexndrtrash thanks for proving my point. People who think he deserved mvp have to right a whole essay to prove that he deserved it. He is definitely the worst mvp ever.
D-Rose was legit awesome that year.
Steve Nash’s two years were much worse the Derrick roses. You failed to mention how he made the bulls relevant again for the first time since Jordan and led them to a regular season high in wins. Horrible take
Steve Nash turned the Suns from 1st round exit to 1st seed..
@@munir9527 d rose did the same for the bulls. First round exit to the eastern conference finals
@@Kiernanglynn20 completely different situations because Nash went to phenoix as a free agent and did it in the same year he got there rose had time to gel with that team
@@deucetatum4095 and that’s coming from Dwayne wade himself
And Dave Cowens was miles worse than both of them.
If you said you are only judging from the skillset of the award, you should have only regarded the player's rookie season when you picked the worst player to win the ROTY.
Who was worse? Brogden?
Facts
I thought the same thing, I would’ve went with Malcolm Brogdon
It's not your video
@@bakasussy447doesn't matter its still ass
Derrick Rose brought so much value to the bulls, its called most valuable player for a reason, it doesn't matter what stats they have if they are contributing to the team that heavily
True but that can’t be all or else players like kawhi would have hella MVPS for being 2 way players
He’s the worst mvp of all time and it ain’t close
@@Mallymal1 he is sadly cause injuries derailed his career. But at the time, it was reasonable to give to him. Even had a better record than the heat, and they had Lebron, Wade and Bosh.
I would argue that itshould be Westbrook with this title, not Rose. The only reason the bulls lost in the first round was because rose got hurt. The game what he was injured, bulls won that game. I respect that Westbrook has a never quit attitude, but his game virtually had not changed. I feel like we see the same thing every year from him, and he actually got worse since he doesn't have a 3pt shot
@@christophertom5552 how? First this list is based on the mvp season they won and although I don’t think d rose should’ve been the worst, westbrook shouldn’t be either just because of the triple double season while leading the league in scoring. Second as much as I love d rose if we’re looking at their entire careers westbrook just has accomplished more and is the more impressive player. while it’s true that d rose got injured that doesn’t discredit what westbrook has done thru his career
Bruh MCW was a beast as a rookie. He wasnt the worst to win it. Theres guys like Brogdon & Mike Miller that won that award.
The least mvp should have went to Wes unseld and not Derrick rose. Once again this man is exposing his basketball knowledge or lac there of.
Wes was one of the best rookies in history, Wes deserved that MVP and is one of the best players in history, the least MVP should’ve went to Dave Cowens
@Kings Will Soon Rise he won the MVP when he was a Rookie buddy
Nah worst MVP was definitely Nash’s ‘05-‘06 season. Averaged 18 points and 10 assists and shot 50-40-90, while Lebron was averaging 30-7-7 still shooting nearly 50% from the field and 33% from 3, and Kobe was averaging 35-5-5 a game. Nash only won it because he was the best player on the first seeded team, if the suns weren’t the best team in the league that year he most definitely would not have won the MVP
@@OmarWkbari That's what Rookie of the Year is invented for. A guy who averaged 13.8 PPG (47th in the NBA that year) has no business winning MVP.
Oh and btw his team had 2 other All-Stars who outscored him (Earl Monroe & Gus Johnson) so you can't even argue he was so "valuable" to his team like the people defending D-Rose.
When he says the least best MVP he means theri overall career
Wes Unseld is a top 50 player ever and so is Dave Cowens and Derrick Rose outside of 2011 has done Jack shit
As soon as I saw D-Rose on here, I knew they messed up. Don’t ever tell Chicago he didn’t deserve that. He’s not the worst either. Not by a long shot.
@BDK Chicago No the he wasn’t, Lebron couldn’t even lead his team to a better record than the injury riddled Bulls and Lebron had a Big 3. Rose 2nd and 3rd best players Noah and Boozer missed half the season.
@@Jman511x these fools don’t actually watch basketball. Ain’t no way in hell Lebron should’ve gotten that MVP. The odds were stacked in favor of the Heat. Rose really came outta no where and stunned the whole League, with less help than the top ten teams. I respect you for knowing your stuff & standing up for Rose 🌹 💪🏽
the worst mvp season is bob cousy
@@Jman511x lebron better
@DB63 being 22 didnt matter! What mattered is that even tho Roses numbers werent as good as LeBrons! He led the Bulls to the playoffs and with a better record than the Heat! And btw LeBron's Miami Heat had the Big three and yet they couldnt match the Bulls Seasons Record!!
MVP for Andre Iguodala was a joke.
I like him but still i think it was a huge joke.
if no iguodala in 2015 finals do you think the warriors still gonna win?
@@jeremiahb.1868 who’s better Curry or Iggy?
@@jeremiahb.1868 without iguodala the warriors might lose the finals, but without Curry the warriors won’t even get out of the first round
@@jeremiahb.1868 Maybe yes, maybe no, but still better player was Curry
He held lebron under 40% shooting
The disrespect to D Rose is just unreal smh I’m sorry but I strongly disagree with you
Lebron had a better season and if D Rose wasn’t 22 at the time he wouldn’t have won it. It was and MVP for a 25 ppg season and he led the to best seed in the east that was all if he was 28 it wouldn’t have won him or anyone an MVP award.
Whenever the best player in the league doesn't get mvp, it will always be controversial
@@jeremyb3612 lebron didnt have a better season tho💀 lebron had a big 3, rose was almost on his own which makes him more valuable hence name of the award most VALUABLE player, on top of that he swept lebron in this season series 3-0 and had the best record in the league, scoring stats do not prove value in the mvp award, winning in the regular season does
@@Yxbby Lebron averaged one less point, 3 more rebs, the same amount of assists, better all around defender. The better player. Derrick Rose only won 4 more games. Ofc ppl with your mindset think superteam and say he didn’t deserve it but Bron was the best player in the nba the entire heat run. Also the bulls had an insane team but the MVP is about who had the best season, team wins are highly valued ofc but Russell Westbrook showed that it doesn’t matter if your team is a top 3 seed aslong you got the stats.. hence why Lebron should’ve won.
@@Yxbby In 2008 should they have given the MVP to someone on Boston because the higher record over Kobe no of course not, so I fail to see your point..
Wes unseld won the MVP at his rookie year and he was EASILY the worst MVP, especially because he was a rookie when he won it.
For real, he averaged 14 points lmao. Should've been there I guess
@@ing4gi I don’t think the UA-camr who made this video knows the history of the NBA too much besides the basic stuff
And 17 rebounds despite being undersized for a center
@@nomnom9992 that’s incredible, of course there was inflation for those stats back in the day but in terms of every single MVP ever he’s the weakest of them all
@@VincentVincent_89 nah its bill walton
Y’all play too much, D-rose totally had that mvp in the bag, and he was the youngest to ever do it. It’s already super impressive to win MVP, but being the youngest to ever win the award, that’s the most impressive part about it
He didn't say he didn't deserve it, he said he's the worst to win it. You don't listen well.
Also, look at lebron % in that finals. He had to work a lot to get his points. The same history can apply to players that was guard by rodman, they always had an awful %
But lebron was getting triple teamed at times due to he’s team sucking
Not true. Shawn Kemp and Karl Malone in 98 shot over 50% against Rodman in the Finals.
Can someone tell me his fg%
The FMVP has never been given out to the best defender it was always given out to the player who attributed the most to winning games and therefore it should have went to Curry, it’s ridiculous that iggy won it and not Curry
@@timisjim2711 in my opinion igoudala contributed the most by being a pretty good offensive player and also stopping lebron as good as possible, if iggy wasn’t defending bro he would average like 45
If we're talking about their numbers (and simply just THEIR numbers/stats. Not the whole team record) of that particular season. Here.
Worst Rookie of the Year: 2001 Mike Miller
Worst MVP: 2005 Steve Nash
Worst Finals MVP: 1978 Wes Unseld
Worst Sixth Man of the Year: 1983 Bobby Jones
Worst Most Improved player: 1997 Isaac Austin
Worst Defensive Player of the Year: 1987 Michael Cooper
Edit: I am talking about here they're NUMBERS/STATS ONLY. Not about the impact they did when they got there or if they became champion on that season. Just simply STATS. I am also only considering players after the NBA/ABA merger. (And one of my favorite players is Steve Nash but I really thought Dirk or Duncan was supposed to have the MVP in 2005, if you look at their stats only)
This is the right one, I'm suprised about that D-rose to be the worst mvp.
@_1TA _ I agree with 2006 Steve Nash. Now that year for him was his true MVP stats. With Cousy, it's hard to judge them on that era, even with numbers, because they were only like 10 teams before the 1976 merger.
The Suns improved by 33 wins in 05, and Nash was the only major addition. They also had the 2nd best relative offensive rating in league history (behind the 04 Mavs who Nash had been on the previous year), I don't think you can say he's the worst MVP ever.
@@calebthedubsfan7397 but as I said. The players' numbers only on that particular season. Not the team
@@_Mojitoo We don’t talk about numbers but who was the best.
The MVP award is also about where your team stands and without Rose the bulls would never get into the playoffs
True for many teams and many players
I personally would put Russell Westbrook there instead of Derrick Rose.
@@christophertom5552 id put cowens, unseld or nash.
if you disregard the Celtics franchise, rose is probably one of the greatest what if stories
I have a proposal for the next video...The best nicknames of players.
what's the measurements?
Adisney Lemicky Wastbrick
BAD PORN
This is what happens when you primarily look at basketball through stats or overly rely on those stats. I've seen players averaging 10p/game being better than another scoring 30/game. Don't get me wrong, stats are a part of the game and are important but it doesn't give you the overall picture.
Give a example of that 😹
@@reese597Ben Wallace > Jerry Stackhouse
Rose deserved his MVP, the Heat in the regular season kinda underachieved and Bulls won 61 games which no one saw coming
Yeah
But there has been no player who has won an MVP that rose was a better player than
@@bamshakfwangyil1301 there is. He is steve nash
@@bamshakfwangyil1301 theres plenty, he could have gave it to curry in 2015, this dude is going based off of stats and that season curry averaged 23.8 points per game, playoff performance is not a factor in the mvp award, this dude forgot that rose lead his team to the best record in the nba and swept the miami heat in the season series, he was probably the best player to watch in the nba
Honestly I feel like people blow roses season way out of proportion. He wasn’t even the best player that year lmao some people get caught up there feelings and forget. His season was great but cmon he wasn’t even the best player that year. If we used the same formula to pick an MVP every year. Devin booker would’ve won it this year and we all know that isn’t right.
@@bradgreer761 tell me how devin booker winning mvp wouldnt be a valid selection?
I'll take roses mvp season over Westbrooks 10 out of 10 times.
As someone who went to every bulls home game in 2011 I have to agree
I’d take Steve Nash, Wes Unseld or Bill Walton as the worst player to win MVP. Bill Walton only played 58 games for him to Win MVP at least Rose played most of the year.
I agree. For Nash, it should've been Dirk or Duncan. Unseld, should've been Willis Reed. Walton, should've been Kareem.
 Facts. 💯 I forgot to mention Dave Cowens, Kareem was robbed MVP in 1973.
The reason why Chandler won defensive player of the year was because he took a bottom tier Knicks defense into a an elite top 10 defense overnight, teams were scoring almost 10 points less whenever he was on the floor. His defensive style wasn't to lock down his man or secure the paint which leads to a nice stat total but be aware of where everyone is on the court and fill in any potential gaps, the Knicks were very aggressive on defense simply because they knew that if they made a mistake Chandler would be there to cover for them. Chandler is the definition of doing all the little things that don't show up on the stat sheet
Factz you nailed this one right on the money
If Derrick is in the video, then it is automatically a bad video.
Andre Igoudala admitted Stephen Curry deserve the FMVP award than him. ❤️
😂 Damn I NEVER IMAGINED JORDAN IN THE THREE POINT CONTEST Or HEARD ABOUT IT .. BUT MY BOY 🤦🏽♂️
People tend to forget bad things Jordan did. It is how it is🤷♂️
I.diot
1:15 no, everyone knew he was putting up empty stats on a horrible team. nobody dared to predict his future, because the season was so meaningless. he didnt even have good percentages.
When I first saw Michael Carter Williams on tv when I was younger thought he was the next Iverson I was so wrong
the worst player to win mvp it was Bill Walton not d rose
do you seriously think d rose is better than bill walton
mvp is for regular season, in the regular season Rose averaged 25 points, 7.7 assists and 4.1 rebounds and bill Walton 18.9 points, 13.2 rebounds, 5.0 assists, and 2.2 blocks and just look at the difference between the seasons: Bulls season 2009-2010 (1 year before derrick's mvp): 41-41. 2010-2011 (mvp season): 62-20 best record in NBA. Blazers season 1 year before Walton's mvp: 49-33. Blazers season (Walton's mvp) : 58-24
@joceja23 Bill Walton's career was spoilt by several injuries: he won a second title with the Celtics in 1986, 9 years after the one with Portland, as a replacement for Robert Parish
Exactly, Bill Walton only played 58 games to win MVP. He should been disqualified.
Introduction : "the award has to represent the skillset"
1 min later : "Michael Carter Williams had ONE good season"
Go actually watch the 2015 finals. LBJ was playing at a level we have rarely seen from any player ever and Iggy did play very good d in that series. Klaw won FMVP for mostly the same reason in 2014 also. Simply looking at basic analytics to make all these videos results in often missing relevant context.
and 2015 Cav team is not an injury team
Kawhis defense definitely factors into his FMVP in 2014 but he was also almost tied for top scoring on his team, and shot 60% from the field and 50% from 3. Iggy averaged 16 per game, 10 points less than Curry, and sure his defense was good, but not THAT good, Because Lebron still was doing what he always does, dropping 30 and nearly having a triple double, maybe he wasn’t as efficient from the field but he also didn’t have his two best players for that whole finals almost and they were his teams other main scoring options, lebron had nearly 200 FGA that series, because he had to shoot more, aside from maybe JR smith that cavs team had no good scoring options. You can look back at many teams with only one scorer and usually that player has a lower fg% because they take significantly more shots
D rose was not the worst MVP, this is ridiculous.
Not feeling some of these selection
Bro put D Rose instead of Jokic 💀💀
The worst player to ever win MVP was Dave Cowens. Not Derrick Rose. Period.
D rose deserved it
That Derrick rose one is wrong
I love your video
I think were confusing the "MVP Award" With being the best player. Steph was clearly the best player last season but everyone knew he didnt deserve the mvp award due to his teams lack of wins. Steve Nash was a great player, but even D Rose at 22 had better stats than Nash at MVP
Excatly what i was thinking steve nash had 2 other Allstars on his team and d rose only had 1. He lead his team to the 1 seed over the LeBron and dwade lead heat. If he just didn't like d rose say that but its definitely other ppl you could have picked
Curry wasn't better than jokic last season you casual
@@hiddentalents7822 Thats what you got from this comment? And you sayin Im the Casual? 🤣🤣🤣
individual player stats don’t determine the mvp, because derrick rose lead his team to the best record in the nba and swept the miami heat in the season series he won the mvp, plus 25 points per game as a 22 year old was better than what curry did in 2015 when he won mvp, if the bulls beat the miami heat in the conference finals in 2011 this wouldn’t even be a debate but ppl are dumb
@@YxbbyYou mentioned the Conference Finals. Well in that series, Lebron showed Rose who the real MVP was. 5:27
Derrick Rose was 22 in his 3rd year, he was the ONLY all star on his team and led the Bulls to the best record in the ENTIRE NBA. BTW, the Bulls went 41-41 in Derricks first 2 seasons. Now back to 2010-2011, If y’all don’t remember. Lebron finished 3rd in MVP voting behind Dwight Howard. So if Rose didn’t deserve it, Howard did. Back to Rose v James. Lebron did have the better stats, 27 7 7 50% vs 25 7 4 44%, but Lebron also had 2 top 10 players on his team; 25ppg D Wade & Bosh avg 18ppg. Meanwhile 17ppg Boozer missed the first 20games and Noah who only avg 11pts and 10reb missed 40 games. 17ppg Luol Deng didn’t make the allstar team and the Bulls starting SG was 4ppg Keith Bogans. I’m going to say again, He was the only all star on his team at 22 and had the best record not just the Eastern Conference but the best in the ENTIRE NBA, at 22!!!!his 3rd year!!
A NBA filled with:
Spurs- 3 all stars
Heat- 3 all stars
OKC- 2 all stars
Celtics- 4 all stars
Lakers-2 all stars
Imagine if 4th year Brandon Ingram won MVP being the only all star while Zion/Lonzo missed 20-40 games and led them to the best record in the whole NBA.
an NBA filled with:
Lakers-2 all stars
Clippers- 2 all stars
Bucks- 2 all stars
76ers- 2 all stars
Utah- 2 all stars
Lastly, how does Lebron deserves the 2011 MVP when he said himself it belongs to Rose.
www.espn.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=6274778
The people bitching about Rose is funny
….. no words for this…..
As commented before, this guy is an LBJ fan. It's recognisable on how he described other teams than Lebron's team.
Maybe... But at least he believe mj the 🐐... 😅
He is a lbj fan and says mj the goat.????
@@robinilouga I'm a fan of Kobe but I agree that rookie MJ would match up to Kobe
nah he’s not he literally said if Mj was on the 2017 cavs they would’ve won against golden state
looks like someone just started watching basketball... Ain't no way in hell D.Rose the worst MVP. When he won it he was literally a menace.
2:52
What was his field goal percentage? LeBron shot 39.8% from the field. 35 ppg on 32 shots per game
No one else could score
It's not all about the stat sheet but the impact of the player in the game especially during crucial moment.
Uh oh, here come the crybaby Rose fans trying to argue that he deserved MVP
Dude failed to mention that DRose made the Bulls a 62 win team with the number 1 record that season! In the same conference as the Heat & Celtics both have 3 HOF & company! Rose was unguardable! He was the youngest player on his team with all the responsibility. Played both ends of the floor and played 81 games. Worst MVP would have to be someone in the 70s or 80s where the competition is far less.
It was just as much the bulls defense that did that and Rose played no defense.
The moment I seen Derrick Rose on this list, it’s automatically invalid. You forgot about Steve Nash?
Nash deserved both MVPs
Tyson chandler didn’t even make 1st team all defense
Thank you for putting drose as the worst player to win mvp, nothing agaisnt rose or anything, but people really talk like his mvp season were better than they actually were
You should do the worst rookie of the year winners
I don't know who is the worst but I don't agree on d-rose and Iggy did everything on the warrior to win the finals
Glen Rice had a great game that night. I'm glad he beat out the GOAT MJ for MVP. He played like a MVP that whole season. I remember he stop shooting 3s that season and started dunking more(playing in the paint)
Mike had the first ever triple double in all star game history.
@@chimont8205 I wanted MJ to win, but Rice set a scoring record for most points in a quarter, I think. I would've voted MJ but Rice was deserving.
this guy said D Rose was the worst MVP and followed it up with a chart at 2:13 showing four MVPs lower than him?
Worst mvp is Dave cowens for being the 2nd best player on the team
Worst MVP ever is EASILY Wes Unseld in 1968. The dude averaged 13.8 PPG, 18.2 rebounds and 2.6 assists for a team that had 2 other All-Stars and still got swept in the 1st round.
With the predicament set about skillset whatnot. It only meant the rookie of the year should have only covered the rookie year.
Oh My God he said the least best player picked for mvp is Derrick Rose 🌹
Come on Derrick rose deserved that mvp if he never got injured he would still be putting those numbers up and the bulls maybe would have a championship
Come on, Wes Unseld could've gotten 2 spots there
I'm a little tired of the Iggy slander, dude won with 16/6/4 on 59% True Shooting while holding LeBron to 48% True Shooting as his primary defender (yes Draymond helped).That's not that impressive but he lead or was second in every box stat and played great defense.
The worst is Cedric Maxwell who won putting up 18/10/3 on 61% True Shooting and wasn't anywhere close to the leading defender on anybody important. Curry deserved it over Iggy, but LeBron "averaging 40" on terrible efficiency bears mention.
😭😭😭😭😭😭 Why did you have to make them dance like that in the end??? 😭🤣
I don’t think it’s fair to put Micheal Carter Williams as the worst to win roty because if you are subjecting to him to just that awards like you said in the beginning of the video he would definitely not have the worst rookie year to win roty, for that it just seems like your subjected their career to the award and not his rookie season like you should have
I would give the least MVP winner to Steve Nash 2006 MVP award. LeBron should have won it. DRose deserve his MVP.
That Derrick Rose disrespect is unnecessary buddy
Don't quote FG% for Rose. He would toss up a shot at the end of any quarter that he had the ball. That skews the data.
MCW pick is wild to me he was a better rookie than other winners such as malcolm brogdon who only won because the true winner didn’t play enough games
Nah that’s cal on the carter Williams one. That man had one of the best rookie debuts in nba history.
Bro take Derrick rose 5hat list he fully deserved to be mvp
The Worst MVP Has to be Any MVP who’s team didn’t make the playoffs, not the 22 year old who picked up a failing franchise and put it on his back to carry them to their first playoffs since Jordan
the moment you mentioned D rose... i was like ... where's the dislike button...
Derrick Rose was the Most Valuable Player on the team, point blank. His injuries and the Bulls record are proof of it.
Lol. I can tell you didn't watch nba in 2011 if your only argument is his stats.
D rose practically single handedly carried that bulls squad to the #1 seed winning 62 games. He was absolutely insane in 2011 and made some moves that were amazing.
D rose completely deserved mvp that year.
steve nash worst mvp ever didn’t deserve neither
Fun fact: MVP just doesn't include stats, but it also includes leadership. D Rose led his team to a 60-win 1st seed in back-to-back years. If someone like Chris Paul or Giannis or Tatum was so good, why didn't they win the MVP? Maybe because of circumstances. Jokic had no Murray or MPJ, and still led the Nuggets to the playoffs, while Giannis, Tatum, and Paul were expected to make it
The lockout season in 2012 didnt include 60 wins and D Rose missed a good portion of that season and Giannis did win MVP. 2 actually
Can't believe tyson chandler has a dpoy over tim duncan who never had one. Keep in mind duncan has the most all defensive team appearances with 15
I 100% agree Tyson shouldn't be a defensive player of the year at all, That award should of went to Dwight Howard, How ever, Marc Gasols defensive player of the year a couple years later was waaaaaaaayyy worse
The Worst MVP was Bill Russel on 1961 he averaged to 18 Points compared to wilt at that time who averaged just 50 Point Per Game :) he also placed somewhere around fifth in that voting ;)
Adding d.rose in this list shows your basketball iq 🙄
Should've added Coach Of The Year award here as well
Darko Milicic tha Basketball Gawd
The worst player to win a rings that comes to mind is sun yue. He played on that 08-09 lakers team. He was a bench warmer that average 0.5 ppg
This guy must be a bronsexual. How can Rose be the worst when Malone(won against MJ), Barkley(MJ), Magic(MJ), Magic( Barkley, 90-91), Dr. J(Bird) won when they were inferior to the real winners?!
And Iggy might not be the real FMVP(Curry) but he let lebron shoot the Cavs out of the finals.
Lebron average 33FGA, 40% FG, 31% 3FG on 3.5 TO with a 2.5 assist to turnover ratio(that is unacceptable as the median for this is 3) . That is big inefficiency out there, that is blatant statpadding. That major drop off in efficiency is because Iggy held him to 24% FG.
I get it that there is no Love or Irving out there but there are other offensive threats on his team. He makes his teammates better is one of the biggest myths out there. He did a sloppy job on this series
if they were inferiors to the real winners what was rose then you contradict yourself.
The least best mvp season is 05 and 06 Steve Nash
He had a 50 40 90 season
Yes
But almost everyone thinks it should’ve went to either Kobe or Wade
It’s Bob Cousy
In the 2015 Finals, LeBron scored 35.8 per game, but he only shot 40% from the field and put up a 47.7% TS%. As a defense, you live with that output every time. GSW loses that series if Iguodala held LeBron to league-average TS%. As for what else Iguodala did that series, he was the team's second-leading scorer, as Klay Thompson was not particularly good. Iguodala had better FG%, 3PT%, and TS% than Curry while defending LeBron. He had a positive +/- every game that series, and GSW won three in a row to close the series after inserting Iggy into the starting lineup. Nobody stepped up his game better than Iguodala did, and while that doesn't mean he became GSW's most important player (it's always Curry), it's a real impact toward winning.
Are you saying Glen Rice was the worst player to win All-Star MVP, or his performance was the worst to win All-Star MVP? He put up 24 points in a quarter, setting an All-Star Game record. That's why he won. And I'd argue he's also not the worst player to win All-Star MVP, either. I might give that to Randy Smith.
And I'd take Derrick Coleman over a guy like DeAndre Jordan who actually got FIRST TEAM ALL-NBA. He has as many First-Team All-NBA selections as Patrick Ewing. Let that sink in for a moment.
Worst ROTY of all time is Ben Simmons, he robbed Tatum and Mitchell.
I will never stand for any D Rose hate! legit unsubscribing!
Eric Snow was a PG. Allen Iverson was the SG.
Drose was literally unguardable that season look at his highlights
If the criteria was for worst rookie of the year based on that players rookie season, Malcolm Brogdon easily wins that.
How was Rose’s MVP narrative driven? Unless the narrative is that Rose led his injury riddled team to the best record in the NBA, with his 2nd and 3rd best players Noah and Boozer missing half the season. With Rose being the only player that year to finish in the top 10 in points and assists, while being apart of the best defense in the league, winning all his PG matchups. C’mon dude really?
Jokic is the worst player to win MVP not D-Rose
The fact that he said Derrick roses mvp was the worst of all time shows me a lot abt this man’s basketball knowledge. Rose WAS the bulls back then. At age 22 he was the entire franchise, he played all games that season on all those averages and they definitely would not have even been a playoff team without him. The amount of disrespect.
abt to watch this and I already know this gonna be pissing people off 💀