Mary McDonnell has always been one of the most intelligent actors working, and she absolutely kills it in this scene. She gets a tremendous piece of writing to work with and she plays it to the hilt. And kudos to the screenwriter for calling out everything wrong with American society in 2-1/2 minutes. The sad thing is that very few people will listen and take it to heart.
and yet, i crave to see live examples of Madeline, "fucking madeline usher', more complex female characters. She's right though, they " invented and begged " for them.
@@Cliptraoh they exist. They’re in your boardrooms right now making decisions that Madeline would make. Don’t let the diversity quotas fool you, it’s still a man’s world, and to exist and make it to that level in a majority male environment you have to be one tough bitch, like Madeline.
the whole point is that they could easily solve the problems with the money they hoard but dont and get upset when people blame them. Verna herself said this earlier the same episode
I have to say, this speech makes me respect the hell out of Madeline. Most people who make devil deals, have no regrets until the payment comes due. Then sudenly they are overwhelmed with regret, and compassion and charity etc etc. They suddenly become better people now that they have to pay for their crimes. Madeline does not do this. She admits what she did and she will pay what is owed. Whatever her other crimes, she cannot be called a hypocrite.
@@quannguyenle9775 she is quite a hypocrite, she justifies her actions with "this is how things are", she and her brother could have used all of their money to better the world knowing they got a literal eldritch presence giving them protection, she blames the common person for her actions and other rich people, when they could simply use their riches to help
Evil is evil. It doesn't matter if you deny what you've done to beg for a few more seconds, or if you say fuck it all and jump to your demise. Evil is evil, and it deserves no respect. ❤
@@dadevi wrong, morality is not black and white, if anything the Usher siblings are chaotic evill since they decided to continue to abuse their standing knowing they could improve the system that abused them
Madeline Usher affirming that she and her brother are in fact the problem. Don't abuse Ligodone? Maybe be honest about what abusing it means. Also when Rodricks wife and daughter in law get a fortune and they both found and support charities with their wealth rather than ruthlessly accruing more.
true! she is redirecting the blame, any seller is responsible of the product they provide, if the shortcuts harm ppl then tell ppl about it, but no, they want their profit
It's no one's responsibility but your own to make your own choices. Yeah, sure, they lied, but in the first place you should have done your own goddman research. 5 minutes of research, even back then, would have shown you the potential abuse for these drugs. But people just blindly believed them BECAUSE IT MADE THEM FEEL BETTER. Take some fucking accountability in your life for once.
@@MofoleoI don’t think you get the idea of ‘they lied’. How can they do research when the research itself is a lie? Thats the point. How are you suppose to find out if something is good or bad when the people that made it are all lying and paying off the doctors to tell you there is no problems. You can’t do five minutes of research and see that there are problems with the product because everything about it has been fabricated. That isn’t the public fault, that’s theirs. It’s their lies and abuses and justifications that make things shitty
or everyone is at fault and the ones with the money don’t do anything to help but instead make it worse. At least in this case. The Ushers could have done good but they didn’t. They only cared about money like todays real world corporate’s. At least Madeline knows she has done wrong. She just doesn’t take full accountability. Imo, everyone in the show has done something bad or immoral. The only one who hasn’t was Lenore but she is taken anyway because of her grandfather’s selfish choice before she was born. I think the point of the show is all actions have consequences
Don’t be a fool to arguments like this. They’re there to distract you from holding people like the Usher’s accountable. Be a better consumer, sure, but yes these people are the problem.
No, you’re not the problem, she’s projecting. She’s deluding herself into thinking that consumers want the bullshit they’re being fed, as if they (we) have a choice. We don’t! People like the Ushers, people with money, they make the rules, and we have to play by them. Madelyn Usher is not entirely in the right here. She’s clever, she understands what’s WRONG with the world, but refuses to consider any kind of accountability
The reality of the situation is that all of this is true. We as the American consumers want to point blame for corporations taking advantage of us yet we do nothing to change. There's no level of personal accountability anymore. Thats no excuse for corporations to exploit people, but we also need to realize we have a lot more power than what we realize, and that power is calling voting with your dollar. The only way to expect change is by playing the same game and flipping the script.
'what do WE teach THEM to want' She is contradicting herself, raging against finally getting her comeuppance, she wants to blame the consumer after admitting that they created us, an impoverished workforce taught what to want. Do you come out of the womb wanting McDonald's or are your desires programmed by billion dollar ad campaigns? Look outside, advertisements everywhere, advertisements inside your home every 15 minutes. Brands upon brands upon brands. Who really has autonomy? The impoverished workforce who can't afford homes or education? Personal responsibility is a rich man's idea of a poor man's game, when you are poor you are wholly beholden to forces outside your control, you must appeal to and do anything you can to survive.
@gonerewilding7176 I'm disappointed so many of the comments are just letting Madeline off the hook and taking everything she says at face value. And somehow construing it to reinforce anti-vaccine beliefs? It's no different than the Opium Wars, and it's clear from the lemon speech earlier in the show that it was the Ushers who FORCED their poison on the rest of society. Everything she said here is just cope "it's not me, all of society is evil!"
hi, the clip is the original scene i didn't add external music or anything, But if you're asking about the bg music in the scene itself, i really dont know 😂
I like how Madline why are staring at me Rockrick oh my god Madline you look like mother will I am are mother daughter and Rockrick yes you are my dear
I love and hate this monologue at the same time For me it's about losing hope in people. every time I thought "this won't happen, they have to be so stupid for this to happen" I was proven wrong. And at some point in time you give up and start profiting out of stupidity. And that's also wrong If you have brains (which I probably don't have enough) you need to have huge amount of willpower and love to not become Madeline. She didn't have love, that's why she ends up like this
Excellent monologue! My fav by Madeline in fact. At 0:53 she makes reference to the supreme court, as in ripping away liberty from women. Do you feel this is actually the case?
@@PwnZombie aborting is not killing babies, and if you believe it is, you're just a fool. you don't love babies, you loves fetuses. as soon as they're out of the womb, you don't give a shit if they're starving in empoverished families or future soldiers dying in a poor country just so the empire can keep getting oil
This show is garbage "It was a dark and soundless day near the end of the year, and clouds were hanging low in the heavens. All day I had been rid- ing on horseback through coun- try with little life or beauty; and in the early evening I came within view of the House of Usher. I do not know how it was - but, with my first sight of the building, a sense of heavy sadness filled my spirit. I looked at the scene before me - at the house itself - at the ground around it - at the cold stone walls of the building - at its empty eye-like windows - and at a few dead trees - I looked at this scene, I say, with a complete sadness of soul which was no healthy, earthly feeling. There was a coldness, a sickening of the heart, in which I could dis- cover nothing to lighten the weight I felt. What was it, I asked myself, what was it that was so fearful, so frightening in my view of the House of Usher? This was a question to which I could find no answer. I stopped my horse beside the building, on the edge of a dark and quiet lake. There, I could see reflected in the water a clear picture of the dead trees, and of the house and its empty eye-like windows.
Hmm, too much of a stand-in for the writer. There are better ways to explain your world views (which may not be wrong, I'm not arguing that!) other than dump them in five minute long monologues, Mr. Flanagan!
This isn't Mike's World View though, Mads has always monologued like this when confronted with her poor choices, she did it at the beginning of the flashbacks with Roderick, with Annabelle and with Verna repeatedly, she's deflecting. This isn't Mike using a character for a soap box, she's 100% in the wrong here, conveniently forgetting that the opiods crisis is partially caused by injured civilians being given these high doses against their will and gaining an addiction, they speak about this in the 2nd episode. Madeline's 100% in the wrong and blaming everybody else but herself because she thought she "played the game" right and now she's going to die, when her true goal was to live forever. This is the ramblings of a woman so far deep in denial she's already a part of Ancient Egypt.
"Everyone else is terrible, therefore my being terrible does not count". Well, at least she got the first part right.
The way his eyes finally divert from hers and to the poisoned glass of wine she drinks from is SUCH a good little detail of Bruce Greenwood's acting.
Mary McDonnell has always been one of the most intelligent actors working, and she absolutely kills it in this scene. She gets a tremendous piece of writing to work with and she plays it to the hilt. And kudos to the screenwriter for calling out everything wrong with American society in 2-1/2 minutes. The sad thing is that very few people will listen and take it to heart.
America is definitely a live example and the reference for the dialogue. But the whole world is in the same fked up scenario.
and yet, i crave to see live examples of Madeline, "fucking madeline usher', more complex female characters. She's right though, they " invented and begged " for them.
@@Cliptraoh they exist. They’re in your boardrooms right now making decisions that Madeline would make. Don’t let the diversity quotas fool you, it’s still a man’s world, and to exist and make it to that level in a majority male environment you have to be one tough bitch, like Madeline.
''They point at you and me like we're the problem.''
I mean, despite this whole amazingly written tirade of yours...you certainly were never HELPING.
yeah, in the end, it's up to the people in power to provide with good things or not, she is shifting the blame
Ig the points she trying to make are the fact that not ALL of the blame is on them(in her mind atleast)
the whole point is that they could easily solve the problems with the money they hoard but dont and get upset when people blame them. Verna herself said this earlier the same episode
@@payt00n people miss this point so much, like, it's the typical abuser excuse
This really shows how people can use their words to turn a situation from then onto you and convince you that you were the wrong one all the time.
This has the same energy as drug dealers saying “well I didn’t force them to take the drugs”
And that's exactly what they are. Drug dealers.
I have to say, this speech makes me respect the hell out of Madeline.
Most people who make devil deals, have no regrets until the payment comes due. Then sudenly they are overwhelmed with regret, and compassion and charity etc etc.
They suddenly become better people now that they have to pay for their crimes.
Madeline does not do this.
She admits what she did and she will pay what is owed. Whatever her other crimes, she cannot be called a hypocrite.
but she is a hypocrite, she is blaming others for the shortcuts they take, they could have not done it and be honest, but they wanted their profits
she is anything but a hypocrite, that just make me hate her a bit less
@@quannguyenle9775 she is quite a hypocrite, she justifies her actions with "this is how things are", she and her brother could have used all of their money to better the world knowing they got a literal eldritch presence giving them protection, she blames the common person for her actions and other rich people, when they could simply use their riches to help
Evil is evil. It doesn't matter if you deny what you've done to beg for a few more seconds, or if you say fuck it all and jump to your demise. Evil is evil, and it deserves no respect. ❤
@@dadevi wrong, morality is not black and white, if anything the Usher siblings are chaotic evill since they decided to continue to abuse their standing knowing they could improve the system that abused them
Madeline Usher affirming that she and her brother are in fact the problem. Don't abuse Ligodone? Maybe be honest about what abusing it means.
Also when Rodricks wife and daughter in law get a fortune and they both found and support charities with their wealth rather than ruthlessly accruing more.
true! she is redirecting the blame, any seller is responsible of the product they provide, if the shortcuts harm ppl then tell ppl about it, but no, they want their profit
It's no one's responsibility but your own to make your own choices. Yeah, sure, they lied, but in the first place you should have done your own goddman research. 5 minutes of research, even back then, would have shown you the potential abuse for these drugs. But people just blindly believed them BECAUSE IT MADE THEM FEEL BETTER. Take some fucking accountability in your life for once.
@@Mofoleo "back then" oh please lmao
@@MofoleoI don’t think you get the idea of ‘they lied’. How can they do research when the research itself is a lie? Thats the point. How are you suppose to find out if something is good or bad when the people that made it are all lying and paying off the doctors to tell you there is no problems. You can’t do five minutes of research and see that there are problems with the product because everything about it has been fabricated. That isn’t the public fault, that’s theirs. It’s their lies and abuses and justifications that make things shitty
or everyone is at fault and the ones with the money don’t do anything to help but instead make it worse. At least in this case. The Ushers could have done good but they didn’t. They only cared about money like todays real world corporate’s. At least Madeline knows she has done wrong. She just doesn’t take full accountability. Imo, everyone in the show has done something bad or immoral. The only one who hasn’t was Lenore but she is taken anyway because of her grandfather’s selfish choice before she was born. I think the point of the show is all actions have consequences
Me: nodding enthusiastically at everything Madeline is saying
...me 5 seconds later realising that i am the problem "well shit"
She's right
Don’t be a fool to arguments like this. They’re there to distract you from holding people like the Usher’s accountable. Be a better consumer, sure, but yes these people are the problem.
No, she's a drug pusher shirking any responsibility for her actions@@hobbabobba7912
No, you’re not the problem, she’s projecting. She’s deluding herself into thinking that consumers want the bullshit they’re being fed, as if they (we) have a choice. We don’t! People like the Ushers, people with money, they make the rules, and we have to play by them. Madelyn Usher is not entirely in the right here. She’s clever, she understands what’s WRONG with the world, but refuses to consider any kind of accountability
Jesus Christ she fucking killed that
She so good being a Villian
I want Mary to have more dark roles
The way this show kills capitalism!
You can look on Rockrick's face, so do taste the posion yet Made
The reality of the situation is that all of this is true. We as the American consumers want to point blame for corporations taking advantage of us yet we do nothing to change.
There's no level of personal accountability anymore. Thats no excuse for corporations to exploit people, but we also need to realize we have a lot more power than what we realize, and that power is calling voting with your dollar.
The only way to expect change is by playing the same game and flipping the script.
When have "we the people" ever took inventory or personal accountability ?
Right?? Like people were forced to take the jab or lose their jobs
'what do WE teach THEM to want'
She is contradicting herself, raging against finally getting her comeuppance, she wants to blame the consumer after admitting that they created us, an impoverished workforce taught what to want. Do you come out of the womb wanting McDonald's or are your desires programmed by billion dollar ad campaigns? Look outside, advertisements everywhere, advertisements inside your home every 15 minutes. Brands upon brands upon brands.
Who really has autonomy? The impoverished workforce who can't afford homes or education? Personal responsibility is a rich man's idea of a poor man's game, when you are poor you are wholly beholden to forces outside your control, you must appeal to and do anything you can to survive.
@@gonerewilding7176EXACTLY. 🎯🎯🎯
@gonerewilding7176 I'm disappointed so many of the comments are just letting Madeline off the hook and taking everything she says at face value. And somehow construing it to reinforce anti-vaccine beliefs?
It's no different than the Opium Wars, and it's clear from the lemon speech earlier in the show that it was the Ushers who FORCED their poison on the rest of society. Everything she said here is just cope "it's not me, all of society is evil!"
I looovee her😂, came here after the show's ending to rewatch this amazing monologue
When Madline starts slips, the wine she was like, "What did you put in my drink baby brother
@@pirate_56 what is wrong with you
“I can’t believe he didn’t taste it. He really didn’t know shit about wine”
Madeline is one of the best characters in TV history.
Madeline being self aware
2:15 Well, you ain't looking anyone straight in the eyes in a minute, girlie
Mary should get more roles like this
The light hit Mary good
Perfect speech… but still she justifies her horrible actions
The way we justifie ours
“What do we teach them to want”
It’s so weird hearing Mary drop so many f-bombs, until I realize how many fracks she throws in “Battlestar Galactica”.
Love the acting from all the three were good the blye house and the house off usher and midnight mass 👍
I would have given back all the sins if Roderick said “shut up Mads!!!!”
What’s the background music?
hi, the clip is the original scene i didn't add external music or anything, But if you're asking about the bg music in the scene itself, i really dont know 😂
Folie a Deux by The Newton Brothers
I like how Madline why are staring at me Rockrick oh my god Madline you look like mother will I am are mother daughter and Rockrick yes you are my dear
Just like Rufus griswolds speech to Roderick
I love and hate this monologue at the same time
For me it's about losing hope in people. every time I thought "this won't happen, they have to be so stupid for this to happen" I was proven wrong. And at some point in time you give up and start profiting out of stupidity. And that's also wrong
If you have brains (which I probably don't have enough) you need to have huge amount of willpower and love to not become Madeline. She didn't have love, that's why she ends up like this
She's so damn right.
Excellent monologue! My fav by Madeline in fact. At 0:53 she makes reference to the supreme court, as in ripping away liberty from women. Do you feel this is actually the case?
@@PwnZombie aborting is not killing babies, and if you believe it is, you're just a fool. you don't love babies, you loves fetuses. as soon as they're out of the womb, you don't give a shit if they're starving in empoverished families or future soldiers dying in a poor country just so the empire can keep getting oil
It is literally the case. Don't listen to the incel moron claiming otherwise.
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This show is garbage
"It was a dark and soundless
day near the end of the year, and
clouds were hanging low in the
heavens. All day I had been rid-
ing on horseback through coun-
try with little life or beauty; and
in the early evening I came within
view of the House of Usher.
I do not know how it was
- but, with my first sight of the
building, a sense of heavy sadness
filled my spirit. I looked at the
scene before me - at the house
itself - at the ground around it
- at the cold stone walls of the
building - at its empty eye-like
windows - and at a few dead trees - I looked at this scene, I say,
with a complete sadness of soul which was no healthy, earthly feeling.
There was a coldness, a sickening of the heart, in which I could dis-
cover nothing to lighten the weight I felt. What was it, I asked myself,
what was it that was so fearful, so frightening in my view of the House
of Usher? This was a question to which I could find no answer.
I stopped my horse beside the building, on the edge of a dark and
quiet lake. There, I could see reflected in the water a clear picture
of the dead trees, and of the house and its empty eye-like windows.
Hmm, too much of a stand-in for the writer. There are better ways to explain your world views (which may not be wrong, I'm not arguing that!) other than dump them in five minute long monologues, Mr. Flanagan!
This isn't Mike's World View though, Mads has always monologued like this when confronted with her poor choices, she did it at the beginning of the flashbacks with Roderick, with Annabelle and with Verna repeatedly, she's deflecting.
This isn't Mike using a character for a soap box, she's 100% in the wrong here, conveniently forgetting that the opiods crisis is partially caused by injured civilians being given these high doses against their will and gaining an addiction, they speak about this in the 2nd episode. Madeline's 100% in the wrong and blaming everybody else but herself because she thought she "played the game" right and now she's going to die, when her true goal was to live forever. This is the ramblings of a woman so far deep in denial she's already a part of Ancient Egypt.