The part where Harry (Bruce Willis) catches a glimpse of the out of control remains of the Independence and doesn't even recognize it immediately followed by Colonel Davis' body bouncing off the windshield hit me just as much as the quotes "Good luck Freedom" and "Oh my God this is it!"
00:53 notice how the pilot while they're going down still want to protect Freedom not to crash into it. Jesus...magnificient valor. Mock me or whatever, but I truly believe this kind of heroes exists, just remember Chuck Yeager
They were so occupied to be "heroes" that they ignored the fact that they could just brake a little bit and going down slowly instead of "coming in hot". So no one had to die.... 😊
Lot of respect to the Pilots for staying where they were despite the dangers that were coming at them head on while trying to give everyone else enough time to get to safety. The look of sheer terror moments before that asteroid collided with the ship breaking the windows and seeing them get sucked out was terrifying seeing them fly past the other ship.
They got sucked out like it was a plane. I'm sure that wouldnt actually happen in space because they are not flying through any matter really plus it's a 45psi difference and our bodies experience that every single day. i think the resosn why they would get sucked out if it was a plane because the speed of the plane through the air creates like a sucking vaccume effect on the planes hull, something that would not be present in space. Sure they would die but it would likely be from the space dust that rips them up.
Actually it has to do with the release of the pressure inside the spaceship. It's one of the few things they got right in this movie. Once the windows are gone all of the pressure inside the spaceship drops to the same level of pressure as space which in outer space or near an asteroid like them would be basically zero. Once that happens the pressure change will cause the air to be sucked out into space.
@@Nocturnal85 But it's 45 psi. The Expanse does a better job at showing it. You could literally cover a hole with your hand. The space shuttle would have instantly shattered if it hit a rock at that speed.
I think I read somewhere that NASA actually makes their employees watch Armageddon as an aptitude test to see how many instances of bad physics their employees can spot For a movie that tries to take itself seriously, Armageddon has some horrendously bad science. Maybe not "The Core" level of bad science, but pretty bad...
As a sailor on the USS Independence CV-62, a ship plagued with problems. I told my date that I was watching this movie with that the Independence would break up and sure enough it did.
I dont think that woudl happen, there is no outside force or mass like air acting against the shuttle so they wouldnt get sucked out like it was a hull breach on a plane.
The vacuum relates to the fact that space has no pressure and no atmosphere to speak of if your in a spaceship your like being in a coke can that is at the same pressure and air quality as at sea level on planet Earth so you can live inside your spaceship. We take our conditions with us. If a breach occurs like opening up that coke can I mentioned then all that pressure gets released taking the air with it. Once all of the air and pressure was released it would become calm again as the conditions of the ship would now be the same as outer space which is 0 pressure and 0 atmosphere. Hence why the pilot told the other guys to put there helmets on in the event they survive everything so they can breath. One of the few things they got right in this movie.
They fall to the ground, truth. But not "fast enough" (slowly). Remember with the gravity "on", they are very heavy, but when the gravity is "off" (zero gravity), the heavy objects "fall" (very slowly) while the light objects "float" in the zero gravity.
"We overshot our landing field." Rockhound "Oh no!" In one of the following scenes Rockhound explains all the malfunctions and dead radio are because the next site was an iron plate as he described it. He was a chemist and geologist and then he blamed the pilot blowing the landing by 26 miles.
And in the end when the shuttle could not take off, he still blamed the colonel "A busted ship, I'm strapped in here, I got a nice spot picked up right there"
Keep in mind, these Special Ops USAF X-71 Shuttles are built entirely different than the IRL Rockwell STS Orbiters, that at least in my theory. My guess is that the X-71's Thermal Protection System isn't relying on "tiles" that are just glued onto the surface, but rather has heat-resistant materials built into the airframe like the bottom section, nose, and every leading edges of the wings and vertical stabilizers. So the X-71s can take a beating even in the smallest FODs in space, and its TPS structure would be still intact, good enough for reentry. As for X-71 Independence...the crew were unlucky, due to saturated detection readings of so many asteroid fragments in their radar that were too many to evade, and one fragment critically damaged the starboard OMS and rear RCS pod of the shuttle, which caused to do an uncommanded roll sinc they've lost control of the RCS in the aft starboard. I'd say, luck wasn't on their side all the time.
I was 27 when Armageddon came out, and this scene scared the HELL out of me. After I saw it in the theater, it was a long time before I could watch it again. Now I have the Criterion Collection expanded version of it.
They were strapped in. Like GhostJager says, you can see the straps break & the pilots are ripped from their seats and ejected through the windows. A fate worse than death. As for suits, my guess is that they weren't using them because they were too bulky for the precision flying that would be needed to dodge that debris, and suits would have impeded the pilots' freedom of movement.
@Bilal Khalid they would still be dead even if they wore suits. The straps the had ripped and they were sucked out anyways. Even someone else was sucked out with his suit on and strapped, and still died. The suits are too bulky for the pilots. Even Sharp and Watts didn't wear suits. You don't expect to crash, just think about it.
They were strapped but the straps broke due to the vacuum of space. Even one of the oils drillers (split second scene) with his suit on and strapped gets sucked out, and he was sitting behind the pilots. This is a scenario where you're lucky to survive. Only Bear, AJ and Lev survived. Bear got lucky, and AJ & Lev went into the cargo bay in time.
So stupid but fun to watch. That said, the speeds being flown here should had turned that one shuttle pilots body into juice at contact on the windscreen...
Yea this scene is very touching but i really have to say and i hate it to say but they did a mistake because the pipes at 2:00 just fall on the ground but they are in a "room" with zero gravity so the pipes should not fall down like rocks that you throw on the ground...
well... if you consider the Spin that the shuttle is haveing while "falling in to the asteroid" it's reasonable to think that some artificial grativy is been generated by the spin inside the cargo bay... thats why pipes and shit is "falling" inside the craft... not shure about the pattern of the "falling" pipes and shit but you know... science! and yes im actually watching this and replaing to you 4 years later :D
to be fair, their shuttle was already damaged while freedom wasn't hit as bad and Freedom still barely made it, so that can be why. Don't think about it too much. They also got hit directly with a big piece of rock, so there's that.
Where would they hold the fuel? For those RS-25 engines, they burned the entire orange tank in minutes. Since the cargo area is full, there is no other space to store the fuel.
Moments like this are totally absent from "Deep Impact". Armageddon is a fun movie to watch but screenwriters at least tried to build up some dramatic moment, albeit too much exaggerated. This clip has nothing of scientific in it, but score, special effects and quotes are great.
Why go down, you're in outer space, the asteroid gravity's not that strong that's why they used thrusters when they landed. And at 22,000 mph the asteroid cluster would just leave them behind
This is the only thing that is bugging me; how did the captains fly out of there seats? I understand that they lost a severe amount of pressure, but weren't they supposed to be wearing specialized harnesses to make sure they wouldn't fly out?
The force of the decompression was stronger than their seat restraints. If you look closely you can see the straps on 1 seat break, and another pilot is sucked out while still in his chair. As for suits the pilots weren't using them because they were too bulky for the precision flying that would be needed to avoid debris, and would restrict the pilots' freedom of movement. You'll notice the Freedom pilots, Sharp & Watts, weren't suited up either.
Unfortunately space shuttles were never designed to be more than about 400 miles above Earth. Otherwise NASA wouldn’t have retired them over escalating costs.
@@GUITARSTUFF911 you must be fun at parties with that cynical attitude, then again you probably never been invited to any cos you're a loser living in momma's basement.
@@dylandevlin2102 Thats not how thrusters would control it though. RCS thrusters would just push the shuttle up or down, left and right. The expanse does a very good job of showing how space ships would actually move.
Not pretty at 1:42 Makes me wish the two front pilots were in space suits as well with their helmets ready to go and the whole crew having a self detachable life line each for a hypothesis like this crash on a asteroid with gravity 😔😞 Most of them probably would have survived that crash 😞
Their thrusters, used to control direction, were crippled by a piece of debris. The pilots could no longer control the shuttle's direction and being close enough to the asteroid surface, the gravity probably brought the shuttle down.
The team back home on Earth, knowing that their hope of success has been abruptly cut in half due to the unforseen amount of remaining debris, before the mission could truly even begin, and half the crew (afatk atm) already lost... that must've been so crushingly demoralizing. And then for the remaining shuttle to overshoot their landing field with its better odds of success? I imagine that were this real, Houston must've been feeling like it was Apollo-13 come-again. o.o
"Fuck yourselves in the cargo bay!" Damn...
lock urself!
Yes it’s fuck and fuck your self in the cargo bay.
What is a cargo bay?
@@alexglass2927 it's where they stored Jack Sparrow
@@brandonjones9998 🤣😂
That coffee mug breaking is so intense
It’s a ripoff of the ending from The Usual Suspects.
"Oh my God, this is it." Just that chilling moment when there is nothing more they can do and they know that life is over for them.
Good luck Freedom.
The part where Harry (Bruce Willis) catches a glimpse of the out of control remains of the Independence and doesn't even recognize it immediately followed by Colonel Davis' body bouncing off the windshield hit me just as much as the quotes "Good luck Freedom" and "Oh my God this is it!"
00:53 notice how the pilot while they're going down still want to protect Freedom not to crash into it. Jesus...magnificient valor. Mock me or whatever, but I truly believe this kind of heroes exists, just remember Chuck Yeager
I honestly didn't understand anything.
you my friend sound like a patriot
@@PeteKay Well yes I am
They were so occupied to be "heroes" that they ignored the fact that they could just brake a little bit and going down slowly instead of "coming in hot". So no one had to die.... 😊
@@CroPETROforeverNBAI bet you still think the government cares about you. 😂
Lot of respect to the Pilots for staying where they were despite the dangers that were coming at them head on while trying to give everyone else enough time to get to safety. The look of sheer terror moments before that asteroid collided with the ship breaking the windows and seeing them get sucked out was terrifying seeing them fly past the other ship.
Say what you want about the movie, but this scene and the opening are great.
"Oh my god this is it..."
Physics? In to the drain. Fun to watch? Hell yeah.
What did they do wrong?
They got sucked out like it was a plane. I'm sure that wouldnt actually happen in space because they are not flying through any matter really plus it's a 45psi difference and our bodies experience that every single day.
i think the resosn why they would get sucked out if it was a plane because the speed of the plane through the air creates like a sucking vaccume effect on the planes hull, something that would not be present in space. Sure they would die but it would likely be from the space dust that rips them up.
Actually it has to do with the release of the pressure inside the spaceship. It's one of the few things they got right in this movie. Once the windows are gone all of the pressure inside the spaceship drops to the same level of pressure as space which in outer space or near an asteroid like them would be basically zero. Once that happens the pressure change will cause the air to be sucked out into space.
@@Nocturnal85 But it's 45 psi. The Expanse does a better job at showing it. You could literally cover a hole with your hand.
The space shuttle would have instantly shattered if it hit a rock at that speed.
I think I read somewhere that NASA actually makes their employees watch Armageddon as an aptitude test to see how many instances of bad physics their employees can spot
For a movie that tries to take itself seriously, Armageddon has some horrendously bad science. Maybe not "The Core" level of bad science, but pretty bad...
As a sailor on the USS Independence CV-62, a ship plagued with problems. I told my date that I was watching this movie with that the Independence would break up and sure enough it did.
Did your ship break up in the ocean? Or what happened exactly?
@@xael-the-artist7708 It was hit by an asteroid, obviously.
“ Oh my God This is it “
10 August 1998.
I will never forget that day when I saw this movie. 😮😮😮😮
Same with me fingol
Was it a good year?
For me it was July 7. Still remember because I had just graduated from nursing school. So many memories.
there is so much wrong in the physics of this scene but still i can't say no to armageddon xD xD
Said the best in the world....(facepalm)
There is so much RIGHT in the physics of this scene and still can’t say no to Armageddon
It's a damn movie mate why you putting physics into it smh
@@jayjaycaguioa8209 he’s probably took one class of physics too lol
0:40 epic music change, man that part its something else
Music is a big part of the movie! This is the movie that got me started to cinematic score composing when I was 13.
@@AnthonySigouin whats the name of this?
they dont make films like this anymore
....yes. they do. all the time. many by the same director.
Damn, this is a Michael bay movie that I actually like
@@dimitrakarasimou8945 I don’t understand why people hate the transformers movies they are actually really good besides 4 and 5
Thank god
@@dimitrakarasimou8945 Same.
“We overshot our landing field” biggest understatement
"Ohhhh Noooo!!!!" XD
My worse fear is being sucked out into space because it is so strong the vacuum of space
I dont think that woudl happen, there is no outside force or mass like air acting against the shuttle so they wouldnt get sucked out like it was a hull breach on a plane.
The vacuum relates to the fact that space has no pressure and no atmosphere to speak of if your in a spaceship your like being in a coke can that is at the same pressure and air quality as at sea level on planet Earth so you can live inside your spaceship. We take our conditions with us. If a breach occurs like opening up that coke can I mentioned then all that pressure gets released taking the air with it. Once all of the air and pressure was released it would become calm again as the conditions of the ship would now be the same as outer space which is 0 pressure and 0 atmosphere. Hence why the pilot told the other guys to put there helmets on in the event they survive everything so they can breath. One of the few things they got right in this movie.
@@WaveForcefulresearch more my dude
so realistically what the two pilots experienced that impact @1:45 and @1:49 is it true or mere hollywood assumptions of how the vaccum of space works
They fall to the ground, truth. But not "fast enough" (slowly).
Remember with the gravity "on", they are very heavy, but when the gravity is "off" (zero gravity), the heavy objects "fall" (very slowly) while the light objects "float" in the zero gravity.
I love this movie so much.
Who is that babe in the picture?
It's either you risk your life to save the world, you will always be rememberd
You only live once.
"We overshot our landing field."
Rockhound "Oh no!"
In one of the following scenes Rockhound explains all the malfunctions and dead radio are because the next site was an iron plate as he described it. He was a chemist and geologist and then he blamed the pilot blowing the landing by 26 miles.
And in the end when the shuttle could not take off, he still blamed the colonel "A busted ship, I'm strapped in here, I got a nice spot picked up right there"
And not one heat tile was damaged on the surviving shuttle...
Keep in mind, these Special Ops USAF X-71 Shuttles are built entirely different than the IRL Rockwell STS Orbiters, that at least in my theory.
My guess is that the X-71's Thermal Protection System isn't relying on "tiles" that are just glued onto the surface, but rather has heat-resistant materials built into the airframe like the bottom section, nose, and every leading edges of the wings and vertical stabilizers.
So the X-71s can take a beating even in the smallest FODs in space, and its TPS structure would be still intact, good enough for reentry.
As for X-71 Independence...the crew were unlucky, due to saturated detection readings of so many asteroid fragments in their radar that were too many to evade, and one fragment critically damaged the starboard OMS and rear RCS pod of the shuttle, which caused to do an uncommanded roll sinc they've lost control of the RCS in the aft starboard.
I'd say, luck wasn't on their side all the time.
@user-ql3cb1xt6m well, the world ain't planning in dying when this thing hits the Earth.
@scarecrow108productions7 We are more likely to get wiped out by one of our own planets super volcanoes than by an asteroid in space any time soon.
I cant eat lunch while watching this. I swear!
This scared me so much as a kid lol
Me as well.
I was 27 when Armageddon came out, and this scene scared the HELL out of me. After I saw it in the theater, it was a long time before I could watch it again. Now I have the Criterion Collection expanded version of it.
Why has Liv Tyler not been an academy award since this movie?
This editing makes me weep
Typical Ryanair landing!
2:26 Harry Stamper: SHARP WHAT THE HELL IS THAT IS THAT THE INDEPENDENCE
Sure it is not realistic but just for the intensity and the musis yes! :)
Have you been to space before , what do you really know about it
@@doudoulay Ha ha ha! :P
The best sci-fi movie so far
The sadness is genuine that losing one of their ships makes hopes of saving planet earth less likely. 🌎
If they die, humanity dies with them. 🧑🚀
That's why I'm not pausing UA-cam videos anymore
Houston we had a problem. Westbrook is gone, and Harden is demanding a TRADE.😅😅😅
This movie was incredibly stupid but soooooo much fun to watch.
Could be a result of the sudden negative acceleration.
Why didn't the pilots strap themselves in and wear suits? That always confused me
They didn't have any more lines in the script. Show offs couldn't just walk off the set like normal people
They did, watch the scene a couple times and you can see the straps break and one guy was pulled out with his seat
They were strapped in. Like GhostJager says, you can see the straps break & the pilots are ripped from their seats and ejected through the windows. A fate worse than death.
As for suits, my guess is that they weren't using them because they were too bulky for the precision flying that would be needed to dodge that debris, and suits would have impeded the pilots' freedom of movement.
@Bilal Khalid they would still be dead even if they wore suits. The straps the had ripped and they were sucked out anyways. Even someone else was sucked out with his suit on and strapped, and still died. The suits are too bulky for the pilots. Even Sharp and Watts didn't wear suits. You don't expect to crash, just think about it.
They were strapped but the straps broke due to the vacuum of space. Even one of the oils drillers (split second scene) with his suit on and strapped gets sucked out, and he was sitting behind the pilots. This is a scenario where you're lucky to survive. Only Bear, AJ and Lev survived. Bear got lucky, and AJ & Lev went into the cargo bay in time.
So stupid but fun to watch. That said, the speeds being flown here should had turned that one shuttle pilots body into juice at contact on the windscreen...
they would have been turned into a popsicle then shattered into a thousand pieces. Nothing makes sense in this movie, but I still love it
Yea this scene is very touching but i really have to say and i hate it to say but they did a mistake because the pipes at 2:00 just fall on the ground but they are in a "room" with zero gravity so the pipes should not fall down like rocks that you throw on the ground...
well... if you consider the Spin that the shuttle is haveing while "falling in to the asteroid" it's reasonable to think that some artificial grativy is been generated by the spin inside the cargo bay... thats why pipes and shit is "falling" inside the craft... not shure about the pattern of the "falling" pipes and shit but you know... science! and yes im actually watching this and replaing to you 4 years later :D
Tbf, the shuttle did crash landed on the asteroid, which they claim to have its own gravity... So.
Love how the smaller asteroids wreck the cockpit in seconds but seemingly have zero effect on the other shuttle
GoldenJokered Better pilots lol
The other shuttle was equipped with plot armor.
The other shuttle barely made it.
to be fair, their shuttle was already damaged while freedom wasn't hit as bad and Freedom still barely made it, so that can be why. Don't think about it too much. They also got hit directly with a big piece of rock, so there's that.
They polarised their hull plating.
yeah, I have noticed this, too... hahahaha.
This is a good "dramatic" film.
No matter how old Ill get this movie is what I'll remember Bruce Willis for.
1:45 😱
How did they have fuel for the main engines if they got rid of the external fuel tank?
Makes honest sense.
They were refueled at the Russian Space Station.
Where would they hold the fuel? For those RS-25 engines, they burned the entire orange tank in minutes. Since the cargo area is full, there is no other space to store the fuel.
@@Rodecpt0 The shuttles wouldnt beable to fit something like the armadillo inside it either.
@@WaveForceful This film probably meant for people who don’t know much about space and spacecraft.
Intense scene
Moments like this are totally absent from "Deep Impact". Armageddon is a fun movie to watch but screenwriters at least tried to build up some dramatic moment, albeit too much exaggerated. This clip has nothing of scientific in it, but score, special effects and quotes are great.
There wasn't a dry eye in the theater on this part when the movie came out.
Why go down, you're in outer space, the asteroid gravity's not that strong that's why they used thrusters when they landed. And at 22,000 mph the asteroid cluster would just leave them behind
This is the only thing that is bugging me; how did the captains fly out of there seats? I understand that they lost a severe amount of pressure, but weren't they supposed to be wearing specialized harnesses to make sure they wouldn't fly out?
Tahja Tomlinson I would assume the force was stronger than what the seats were designed?
@@davidlewis5189 whyd dint pilots put on helmets
randomrazr They don’t have much time to do it.
@@randomrazr they weren't even suited up. Only the cosmonaut and drillers were wearing any eva gear.
The force of the decompression was stronger than their seat restraints. If you look closely you can see the straps on 1 seat break, and another pilot is sucked out while still in his chair. As for suits the pilots weren't using them because they were too bulky for the precision flying that would be needed to avoid debris, and would restrict the pilots' freedom of movement. You'll notice the Freedom pilots, Sharp & Watts, weren't suited up either.
there was NO reason for those SRBs to explode when they were released from the shuttle and hit the asteroid, Michael Bay signature scene lmfao
Its not a big deal to survive in a airliner crush, they survived spaceshuttle crush.
JUSTICE FOR NOONAN !
Where’s all the music coming from?
Unfortunately space shuttles were never designed to be more than about 400 miles above Earth. Otherwise NASA wouldn’t have retired them over escalating costs.
How can they manoeuvre the shuttle out in space like the way fighter jets do if space is a vacuum?
The thrusters on the shuttle’s the pilot can control them or the co-pilot
Hollywood and its in the script....lol
@@GUITARSTUFF911 you must be fun at parties with that cynical attitude, then again you probably never been invited to any cos you're a loser living in momma's basement.
@@dylandevlin2102 Thats not how thrusters would control it though. RCS thrusters would just push the shuttle up or down, left and right.
The expanse does a very good job of showing how space ships would actually move.
@@WaveForceful interesting
1:17 Colonel Davis: everybody go to your own life support lock yourself in the Cargo Bay
That and the Shuttle said Freedom not Independence when the shuttle was about to crash
Why don’t know put the helmets on and lock themselves in the cargo bay from the beginning
Wow those rocks are mean!💣
Buona fortuna Freedom! Scena epica!
I always heard that guy say LOCK YOURSELF IN THE CARGO BAY!
Yeah fly like a fighter jet with that tiny aileron
3:19 O H N O
1:39 O H N O
100% Hollywood
When i saw coffee mug i knew 😢
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1:28 Trying to put on a condom.
As cool as the line. We are going down is. Is that even possible in space. Only in the movies
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Not pretty at 1:42
Makes me wish the two front pilots were in space suits as well with their helmets ready to go
and the whole crew having a self detachable life line each for a hypothesis like this crash on a asteroid with gravity 😔😞
Most of them probably would have survived that crash 😞
0:41 asking for help into space!!!
What happened to independence? Did they overspeed acceleration and lost control?
Their thrusters, used to control direction, were crippled by a piece of debris. The pilots could no longer control the shuttle's direction and being close enough to the asteroid surface, the gravity probably brought the shuttle down.
1:33 good luck freedom. :(
The team back home on Earth, knowing that their hope of success has been abruptly cut in half due to the unforseen amount of remaining debris, before the mission could truly even begin, and half the crew (afatk atm) already lost... that must've been so crushingly demoralizing. And then for the remaining shuttle to overshoot their landing field with its better odds of success? I imagine that were this real, Houston must've been feeling like it was Apollo-13 come-again. o.o
good luck freedom. oh my god this is it.
КИК Ё ЭСС ТУ ЗЕ МАРС
Oh, my god, this is it…. OOOHHHH NOOOOOOOO!!!!!
OH yeah
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Merkur Planet when explode with Sun Erruption!
Film yg sangat luar biasa..
What is 1:51?
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Direzione Sole 2 onde Asteroide fields!💀🏇👽
0.45..mayday mayday we going down no more advertising on any news on United States of America president Chanel....are you copy Huston.
american roller-coaster is awesome they can well-made
How was this movie ever a hit
REST IN PEACE !
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so unrealistic
Oh sure... yeah, that shuttle's heat shield is totally still intact.
when you realize this is goina happen in 2036
4534 km nr 1; 7200 km nr.2 ceres!ceretta e pilates la finito!direction see Oumuamua see geografica Maps!
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