8 Wick Kerosene Camp Stove
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This is an iconic kerosene stove originated in India. Extremely successful for a decade or so but lost the charm with new technology catching up. Best part was it's efficiency and safety in face of contemporary options. Practically saved my life many times !
Can you burn diesel in them without damaging the wick?
@@juliogonzo2718 K1 Diesel, otherwise it will smoke and smell horrid. You can also use lamp oil/liquid Parafin which will store for DECADES in a sealed container. ...just saying... That along with a small heater adapter for the on-top and you have a nice emergency setup.
We have one.Marvellous.Always true to its name.It gives blue flame.My mama cooked many different varieties of rice ball cakes.This together with the wood powder wood plank stoves kept our house running when i had been a kid.
These were commonplace stoves of choice with lodgers/tenants in Zimbabwe back in the early 80s. This was it, for years. They were not a camping gadget. They were THE stove.
A great portion of the world still cooks this way
My grand ma cooked my dads meals on a montgomery wards kerosene table stove 🧐
4:45 the lighter goes on 🤔
I bought one for the same reasons, cheep and interesting. I haven't fired mine up yet so your video is helpful.
Thanks.
Well, it is funny to look at it now, however I remember very well as we were cooking using those kerosene stoves in Russia as I was growing up in addition to using the fireplace that not only was the only source of heat but also as an oven ....many years later it was replaced by a gas stove using tall propane tank right there in the kitchen alongside the gas stove....Those were the days, my friend....
Thank you for the demonstration you are a good instructor!
The trick to kero is. Starting it Getting it up to heat and You are Golden
MY PARENTS USED TO HAVE A KEROSINE HEATER. IT OCCASIONALLY SMOKED BUT NOT MUCH AND ONLY FOR A VERY SHORT WHILE THEN IT WAS GOOD. THIS LITTLE PORTABLE STOVE YOU HAVE LOOKS A BIT TOO COMPLICATED FOR ME TO HANDLE I THINK AND I DONT LIKE THE LOOKS OF ALL THAT FIRE COMING FROM IT. IM AN OLD PERSON SO IT MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR ME. I JUST WANT SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE TO COOK ON IF THE POWER GOES OUT. I CANT TEST IT OUTSIDE EITHER. BUT THANKS FOR THE VIDEO.
Just got one of these 8 wick stoves. A bit crude, but about as low as you can go and have a stove that can reasonably work like what we are used to cooking with. That, is you can make eggs and bacon without compromise. One bit of advice: pull the wicks down so that the highest position is about right after warm up. That way they will go low enough to extinguish fairly reliably. If you get one in reasonable condition after the rigors of shipping, they do work well, but I wouldn't wander too far away while its lit. So many "camping stoves" are like cooking over a propane torch, one extremely hot spot. These aren't quite so bad, except with the thinnest pans. A round piece of 1/4" aluminum as a heat spreader would improve things. Using cast iron or cast aluminum cookware is even better. Common sense is called for.
Randomly bought one then didn't know how to set it up until... now! Thanks!
Very cool to remember that old thing. It very nice to see it again since 25 years 😊😊😊😊😊
You can use denatured alcohol surprisingly. Not just kerosene.
I used one similar to this daily when I was growing up. I think I have to buy one! Great video!
Thanks!
Thanks, I never even heard of these things, I will pick one up, they look neat and look like they work well too.
Dekhen, Gaand me chudai to hi nhai sakti. Baaki, shauk badi cheez hai
I just bought a similar one. The sightly more expensive red and cream coloured one they offer (8 wick). I thought as a prep backup. Having multifuel devices on hand. I mainly use propane devices for backup heat and cooking. I did have a 1970s kerosene heater I used years ago. But now looking at getting a modern kerosene heater aswell.
cool little stove. Thanks for sharing.
Great video dude.how long will the tank of fuel last
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO AS I AM INTO ALL KINDS IF KEROSENE PRODUCTS AND HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR ONE JUST LIKE THIS. I DID CHECK ON eBay BUT MY PRICE (CANADA) WAS ALMOST $50. I TRIED AMAZON AND IT'S $19,99 CDN. CAMPING AND AT THE BEACH WOULD BE PERFECT AS I CAN KEEP IT GOING FOR BOILING WATER ALL DAY LONG WITH VERY LITTLE FUEL.
I've had several of these, and they are very cheap in price and build, but facinating as they do work great. I think I'd camp with it if you could come up with some type of hardcase for them, just empty them well, and you have sn extremely light weight and efficient cooker and heater if you are careful.
I'm here trying to find out how many BTU's they are because I need something to heat a small wall tent, and all other kerosene heaters are way to hot, and as with most types of kerosene heaters, they are only slightly adjustable.
been using Diesel as a tester with paraffin, not together, :), it works ok, i found it did not burn as hot as paraffin, but sitting on the river bank all day, it keep the water hot for a cup of coffee,
Nice big base camp stove I agree BUT its also low impact and low tech thanks
My parents have a small business where they sell general merchandise in South America and my dad would import this in bulk to sell for about the equivalent of $6 USD. It was a huge hit where we lived (which was in the city) and people would come from the countryside just to buy this from him. One was all they needed, and they rave about the power of this stove and it’s utility in keeping them and their families fed, and of course it was affordable for all! However, I believe they probably used it for only one person to cook at a time and I am not sure how often they could cook each day with this stove, because the wicks used to light the stove are only so long (roughly 8-12 inches long by memory) and will eventually burn out completely so you will probably need to buy a new stove altogether when ready to replace it. However, most people in the U.S. are probably not living outdoors or using it for months at a time, but rather using it for outdoor purposes like camping and working in the woods. Nonetheless, its really a great, durable product and well-worth the money in my opinion.
How is it as a heater in a small room?
@@rollingthunder4599 Probably dangerous & I would not recommend. It's not meant for indoor heating. it is a legitimate outdoor cooking device and it usually has about 8 thick thread wicks (if I remember correctly) so I imagine it gets powerful with enough kerosene!
Please don't use for indoor heating purposes.
I made the mistake of useing this without proper knowlege lol. First time indoors, poor ventalation, and cooked to early. The flame was pretty big, covered my pan in soot. The one i got sent was in pretty rough shape from shipping but didnt feel like dealing with the return🤣🤣🤣
thank you very so much brother. 👌👍👍💜💜
thanks for the review, did you try with diesel? it looks a good stove, shame no way of sealing so you couldnt realy use as portable , im looking for one to use on diesel as here in uk its easier to get, i realy want to travel across usa again and will need stove to do althou think itll be gas for that, thanks for posting :)
If you have flames coming out of the top, it's turned up to high.
1/2" flame is about right usually. If the flame is too low, you can get carbon monoxide.
we use that stove went i was a kid but after the kerosene price is high, we retired that stove and change by lpg stove because lpg is less than half of the price of kerosene
Does it make a good heater?
Cool little stove. We have two heaters that we use to help heat the house in winter. I like them but don't like the smell when you turn them off. I did notice that Home Depot carries the odor-less fuel for a few cents more. I haven't tried it yet but plan on doing so. Thanks for showing us the stove.
Sure, I will have to try the odorless stuff it has a slight smell when I turn it off by blowing it out, but if you do it according to the directions (Turn the wicks all the way down and let it go out on its own) there is no smell. Thanks for watching!
Thaws stoves work great and are not under pressure which can be very scary at times! But that can also burn diesel fuel which is much cheaper than kerosene. Diesel is a little dirtier that kerosene but the cost is so much lower and easier to locate. I have been using diesel for many years in this type of stove and it works just fine! If you adjust the flame properly you will not get anymore smoke then if you were burning kerosene!!!
Thanks for posting your video. Have just taken delivery of the same model Firewheel from China. My wife looked at it and said it looks dangerous and to throw it away. Have seen these used in South Africa, India and Iran and always wanted one. Your video has given me the confidence to fill it with Paraffin, (Kerosesne) and give it a go. Just not sure where to buy Paraffin from in the 21st century. Wish me luck!
Yeah its very easy to use and not dangerous if you just follow directions. Glad you are going to enjoy it. I get my Kero at Walmart but any good hardware store should have it.
Thanks very much appreciated
Thanks for posting, I ordered one recently when I came across them when I was doing some research on a problem I was having with my kero heater I use in my shop. The ones I saw were Butterfly brand, have a great reputation but cost more, so I did as you, spend a little and give it a try here and at the cabin. Thanks again.
Its actually a pretty decent unit given how cheap it is, I am still using it to this day, works good as a cook stove and a heater as well. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video. It was very interesting.
In a life and dead situation, most folks would use anything they can.
Does the kerosene cooker have that kerosene smell after you have a blue flame?
No, no smell at all The only time I got a slight smell was once I put it out. It lasted about 4 or so mins and then was gone.. nothing too powerful or stinky. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the quick and fast answer to my question.
No problem!
Can this be used in the house in case of power outage?
got 1 today, 101219, £8 UK, tested it, it works, the wicks must be the same length, like Iridium says, the hotter it gets, the better it works,
You can actually use diesel or jet fuel A as well because their flash point is almost identical to kerosene. Gasoline is much more volitile, which is why you can't use it.
have used jet fuel, it gets a bit hot, the unit itself,
Nice looking stove
5 months later it is my only stove here in the french north it works but it has rusted sooooo bad
take a loose coil spring and hook the ends together and place it around the opening of the burn chamber and it will help re-combust any unburnt vapor. Some Kero. heaters used it to help cut down on fumes. And yes I was a Kero. heater repairman for 3 years and still use them.
Cool thanks, I will give that a try
72+HourBOB. Remember that catalyst griddle screen called the Breathe Easy used on non venting heaters ? I wish I could find another one. Great idea by the way.
Could you do a youtube video on that please?
Cool. Please keep us updated on how this stove holds up with use. I used to have one of the indonesian Butterfly wick stoves, and it worked well, but there was nothing I could do to keep it from rusting to pieces once the paint cooked off. :/
I will, I will also use it as much as I can in future videos when it calls for a stove, It really is a cool stove, I just wonder how long it will hold up.
I have Butterfly stoves I use frequently. The paint yes it will burn off. what I do is let one burn and season on a full tank of fuel which burns the paint off. knock all loose paint off with a wire brush. Treat metal with Ospho, paint with your choice of high temperature paint, and importantly keep the stove waxed with automotive wax. Go check out Miles Stairs Wick Shop on more information on kerosene stoves.
Nice video! I've got one of these coming and a tilley lamp for future prep options. I feel paraffin is a great alternative energy source to have on standby incase of blackouts. Would be interested if anybody can suggest a better quality stove though.
Try and find a used second-hand Beatrice No.33 Two burner kerosene stove. Or, you can also get a single burner No.33 version too. I've just bought mine (a twin burner) off of eBay. These will last you forever and become an heirloom as they are bomb-proof. But, Iridium242 is correct, these stoves shown in the video above are cheap-as-chips and with care will also last a lifetime. The Beatrice No.33 has a large window that throws a warm light on the surroundings and can double as a heater if you put a stovetop fan on it.
@@tartanrambo thanks for the recommendation. They look amazing, and very well engineered! Would need to be lucky to find one.
I have one of these stoves and they are good, But it does not last very long. The inner burner or tube with holes disintegrated after a few months of use making the unite useless as i cannot find anywhere that sells spare parts so i have to buy a brand new stove. I find that a full tank would last about 5-6 hours depending on how high you have the flame.
I love this one
Does it black up pots after using?
ODDLY I AM INTO PREPPING FOR SHTF SITUATIONS AND WITH A GOOD SUPPLY OF KEROSENE I "WOULD" USE THIS IN A LIFE& DEATH SITUATION, AS KEROSENE WOULD BE READY AVAILABLE MUCH MORE THAN ANY OTHER FUEL WHEN THINGS GO VERY WRONG!!
When all else fails, kero is ultimate fuel. Use it wisely and it will save your life. Aviation fuel is actually kerosene refined for no other reason
Just watch your cooking video September 10th 2018 you're making bannock bread with this stove just had an idea take a piece of Steel approximately 1 inch thick and 8 inches across but legs on it going down to the table top use that as radiant heater in a small area in The Sleeper Berth of my semi truck I have emergency 3 Wick candle when the truck does not run during the winter and I have no heat that 3 Wick candle will keep my Sleeper Berth comfortably warm great Channel brother thank you for your knowledge and expertise next time I'm out to Vegas we will have to go to your army supply store
Cool yeah let me know! Be careful with flame in enclosed spaces, dont want you to get CO2 poisoning.
But were would you buy new wicks
I have 1 the only issue this should only be used Outdoors it stinks really bad you don't want to get any kerosene on anything in the house or anywhere the smell is really strong and takes quite a while to get rid of
Just picked one up for boiling water for drinking in a worst case scenario. I'm a trucker so diesel fuel is always available
Kerosene is different with diesel.
Would kerosene lamp wicks work in it?
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What store did u buy it from ?
not bad for 20 bucks! Never saw before.
i have one.but how to come blue flame?
I know this was done every since, but I just got one. Can the stove be rewicked, when all the wick have burned out??
Yes it can be, matter of fact it comes with an extra set of wicks I have yet to even need
@@Iridium242 oh ok. I thought I would need to replace it regular. Thank you very much for replying 😀
It's a kerosene heater with out all of the framework
Hello, I just bought a stove same to you, but I m not sure what oil goes inside? Can I use white spirit for it? Or not, can you please tell me what fuel is the best to put inside? I'm in England
With this one I would just stick with Kerosene, it works great
As its wick based, have you tried cooking oil or denatured alcohol?
No, not yet, but it would make for a good video, I am thinking the alcohol would work well, not sure about the cooking oil but its worth a try! Thanks
i bought one too... have you tried plant based oil for fuel?
Nope not yet do you know where i can get it
How to switch it off and thanks for sharing
you simply turn down the wicks until they go out and the stove will turn off
What is the best way you have found to extinguish this stove?
I turn the wicks all the way down almost putting them back into the tubes they come out of, and it will go off on its own
how long did it take to arrive?
on eBay in the uk they are £11.18p
so pretty good way of keeping the kettle on.
it did look a tad flimsy tho?
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That was the odd part, I thought it would take forever to get here, From order to my front door was about 1 and 1/2 week. Not bad. Yeah, the metal is thin, but it does work very well and it also puts off a good deal of heat, so it could keep you warm and cook some food as well. Thanks for watching!
Iridium242
ill put mi order in n see 😃
jet fuel works good on these things, it burns a bit on the hot side, but for some thing that cost me £7, great bit of kit, ps, now have 2 :)
Got one on the wayb😅
@@Bucky1836 replace the mop rope for 8mm fire door rope, a lot better, then mop rope :)
@@crazycrab8578 does it rust bad after lotta use?
@@Bucky1836 kind of, but for £7, it does the job, just keep a eye on it and a good clean now and again, should last for years, :)
@@crazycrab8578 i found that 8mm stove rope i reckon cause it fiber glass will it absorb kero good? 🧐
Wow, it is so good, i will buy one
Could I possibly use 100% cooking oil in this, like I do my kerosene lamps? I use cooking oil in my lamps
Honestly I am not sure, however I will give it a try and report back in a few days
I got it running diesel, so I guess if you mix cooking oil with a little bit of rubbing alchohol it should work. I mixed my diesel with rubbing alchohol too
had a few problems with my, but at £8, it wont pass any safety cheeks, but it does the job, i put a spring on the handle, got that from an other site, was getting some blow backs down one of the pipes, so put some metal putty around it, but as a fisherman, in one location all day, hot water all day, no rushing around, I use a tanning tent as cover, it keeps me worm, I give it 8 out of 10, see pic
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Now I want to buy one. Have you tried cotton or mop head for wick material yet ?
Nope not yet, they send a backup wick, and I am still using the first one, they last a good long time. Someone else mentioned that and it will work, I have a friend who tried it with his and it worked great.
I have a 16 wick Butterfly Stove. I really like it and use it frequently. What I did not care for was the wick material it came with so I tried a cotton mop from a dollar store. I like the more even burn and they seem to last longer. These wick stoves are amazing and a lot of fun. They can burn low odor mineral spirits which I have done. Myself I burn Jet A in all my kerosene appliances because it burns clean and wicks seem to last longer. If I have to I can burn red dyed kerosene in these wick stoves I just add a teaspoon of isopropyl alcohol per gallon and always a good funnel that traps moisture like a Coleman or Mister Funnel. Have you been on the Classic Camp Stove Forum ? You should check it out. Also check out Miles Stairs Wick Shop. Miles is a wealth of information about anything and everything kerosene.
When people buy these little stoves a man cave, being mechanically inclined, and a bit of patience to tinker is required for these stoves one of the reasons why they are so much fun. Now I am going to have to buy one. Can't have too many stoves haha. Thanks again.
@@sswcustomcyclesswcustomcyc7948 you named a wick shop, please state the name again as I cant get your full post to come up. Thanks
@@putheflamesoutyahoo1503 Miles Stairs Wick Shop is the best source to buy wicks for stoves, heaters, lamps, and has the largest selection. His wicks are the best quality and work great in my kerosene stoves, lamps, and heaters. Have a happy holiday season.
Can you use it in a hot tent in place of a wood burner tent stove?
No sir
Hi. I'm from Argentina... I have a similar stove. I'm concerned about the kerosene deposit temperature after a few hours of functioning... Is it normal? (sorry about my english)
It will get hot but wont catch, I have used it for a long period of time and its never got hot enough to catch on fire, its far enough away from the flames and also is not under any pressure so there are no fumes.
@@Iridium242 thanks for your answer! I was worried with this.
This stove is just great for fast cooking. Not for main cooking of food. In PH we have a lot of news about exploding kerosene stoves.
That's a pretty cool gadget? Are you gonna have lunch out in that man cave? : )
Actually right after I finished this video, that is exactly what I did :)
good video.perfectly..
can you use indoor like regular kerosene heater?
You can but I suggest some ventilation. It doesn't smell until you turn it off then it has a slight hint of Kerosene, but that only lasts a few mins at most. A lot depends on how big the area is you will be using it in. In a tiny area or small room, not a good idea, in a bigger area like a living room, it should not be an issue. I have cooked in my kitchen and in the Studio/garage area you see in the video here without any problems.
Iridium242. If you have a Coleman oven and it will sit on the top of the stove you can bake on these stoves wonderfully. I bake on my butterfly all of the time. Cooking with kerosene you will have the best flavor. It's actually my secret to making a moist cake. A Coleman oven can be used for a heat exchange no reason to waste that clean heat. Once the stoves catalyst screens are at operating temperature like you have shown here with a clean blue flame put the Coleman oven on for baking or heat exchange. Remember for every gallon of kerosene burned you produce about a gallon of moisture in the air. Operating properly with the hot blue flame like you have shown these produce pretty much zero carbon monoxide. They burn the oxygen in the room so crack a few windows an inch for fresh air. I heat, cook, and light year round with kerosene it's my choice and more affordable for me.
Bake the wife or significant other some toll house in the tube "man cave cookies" and woo her with your awesome stove Just maybe she will take an interest, buy more stoves, or allow you to have many stoves. Just make sure to taste them first before you give them to her. I didn't years ago, and that lady wasn't impressed at all. Operating properly you will have no flavor of kerosene.
If you or anyone else is having trouble with odor from kerosene add a half to a full measured teaspoon of 99% to 100% isopropyl alcohol per gallon of clear kerosene. For red dyed kerosene you never know if it has been watered down with #2 diesel, how long it has been sitting, or what blend of "Kerosene" they have in their bulk tank so I add 1.5 teaspoons or more of isopropyl alcohol if I have to burn the red dyed kero. Too much alcohol will cause wicks to burn or melt a fiberglass wick you don't want that. Moisture will ruin the wick in any kerosene appliance or cause one to burn improperly. So adding the small amount of alcohol helps prevent wicks from getting clogged with moisture, last longer, and you will have a cleaner burn. Make sure that you sump your kerosene tank if you have a bulk tank. Extremely important to always pour kerosene through a thick piece of heavy felt, Mr Funnel, or use a Coleman funnel. Kerosene will attract moisture so the alcohol will help dry it out in the tank, it will cause it to burn a little hotter and cleaner. I burn Jet A in my kerosene appliances and have no problem with odor, no moisture problems, and wicks last a very long time. If you live near an airport get a 5 gallon Jeep can, 55 gallon drum, or a large mouth fuel jug like the racing fuel jug because aircraft nozzles are big and see if they will sell you some. Better yet if you know an aircraft mechanic they might have some they drained out of a plane in a barrel you can get free or very cheap. If you know who sumps the fuel storage tanks at the airport you can sometimes get what they sump off for free. Allow the sumped free stuff to sit and the water will go to the bottom. Siphon the Jet A off the top, and pour through a Mister Funnel or a few times through felt to get the moisture out. Make sure that the Jet A does not contain the anti gel anti ice additive. This additive is called Pris or something like that it is not safe for heating or cooking because of the fumes it produces. Jet A is basically just a little more refined version of kerosene.
If you have a non vented kerosene heater or lamp for ONLY heating or lighting. Never for cooking purposes, and you want a sweet smell in the room. Add pure oil base concentrated candle makers essential oil a few drops at a time so that you don't over scent your fuel. Potpourri oil works great just a few drops per gallon to start. For a bachelor's pad or man cave add a full to half teaspoon Hoppes #9 Gun Bore Powder Solvent to a gallon of kerosene.
Kerosene will not go bad as long as you store it properly. Kerosene pulls condensation from the air or wherever you store it.
Come across some old or foul smelling kerosene. Another deodorizing trick is add a cup or two of crushed or powdered limestone per gallon of kerosene and shake the heck out of it. Allow the limestone to settle to the bottom of the container overnight. Repeat the shake and sit if it's really smelly over a few days. Siphon off the kerosene through a piece of heavy felt to remove the moisture and dirt a few times and that works very well. Hopefully my long rambling was helpful to you or someone else. Thank you again.
Angela Jones. Yes I use a 16 wick Butterfly stove and a Butterfly or Coleman oven. This way I can bake and heat at the same time not wasting my clean burning heat.
I have a qustion, how to turn off the fire ?
You turn it down all the way and it will go out in under a minute. Its pretty quick.
neat
My grandma used this for cooking.
Will this work with lamp oil or vegetable oil?
No
Nice...
How do you close the flame?
Just turn down the wicks until they go out
Hello, would diesel for cars work in it?
Yup ot would
Thank you
my mama cooked food using it 30years ago ，the stove nearly disappear in China today。
Indian poor families fuel, just like mine. when the wicks turn charcoal in the burden, it's a big issue, cut the charcoal wicks with scissors.
I found one today at the thrift store for a buck 👍🏽
Great deal
My dad used it to cook my food while my mom went to work and it was better for metal unti i came tovthe u.s. and joined navy with electric grill or eat kfc and mcdonald i became jumpy and over active
i use lamp oil in my the unsent kind
I ordered 2, I plan to paint one of them blue and use diesel in it.
Nice, Let me know how it works. I was wondering if you could use diesel in these.
imbadwrench diesel works fine in mine. It does put out a little smoke when u let the flame get high, but as long as i regulate the flame to a blue color its just fine. It takes a few minutes after ignition to be able to regulate the flame but its fine after that. And by the way it puts out a lotta heat. Good luck.
I am with you when deployed to Afghanistan I purchased a kero lantern but used diesel with it . all i had to do was clean the lens every third day
2675gordo did you add alcohol to the diesel ? Diesel will gum up and tar up wicks horribly due to the ccylinder lubrication along with EPA required additives, and it does have a higher flash point. Kerosene is in between gasoline and diesel. More BTU for your buck with diesel. I have just know wicks do not like diesel.
Playing With Fire. Pressure or wick type lamp/lantern ?
I have burned diesel in a Petromax pressure lantern with absolutely no problems just clean it like you said.
Dude you can use diesel...
How to turn off
Turn down the wicks and wait for it to go out, takes under one minute.
run it on low, won't wear the metal fast.
Over here in the UK we have paraffin is that the same as kerosene?
Yes kerosene is the same as paraffin
@@cathrineadegbuyi6988 This confuses me greatly. I think in the UK people call kerosene paraffin. In Canada they are two very different things. They are for the most part interchangeable, but paraffin burns without odours. Kerosene is much cheaper and burns a little brighter and hotter, but it stinks indoors.
Kerosene stinks... I have one, and got it on ebay... paid $15.
That's why it is called "Sour Diesel"
Try paraffin lamp oil...it's a lot more money than kero but doesn't smell at all.
I have a 12x16 sun room that I like to use for an "office" (I'm retired though, so no work going on!) This is the first winter I've done this. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxl2o1MQU4aMgmFk_cMqer4nH2ptpDEM6h I have 2 x 1500 watt electric heaters that are on schedules in Home Assistant. After less than one month of that, I decided a new solution was needed (electric bill went up quite a bit more than expected). I have a 23,000 btu kerosene heater, so I tried that. It definitely works, too well! It heats the space up quickly, but you really can't turn these types of heater down and have then burn efficiently, so I was always lighting it and putting it out. I decided to try this model, and it is perfect for this application. In the morning at 0600 I turn both electric heaters on and light this heater. Within 30 minutes, it's up to 60 degrees (from 35 to 40F), and within an hour it's at 68F. At that point the electric heaters shut off and pretty much stay off the rest of the day. Fuel consumption is also greatly reduced (as would be expected, given that it's half the size/btu output). I can get 2 x 4 hour burns out of a full tank. I also like having these around as emergency backup heat, this is my third kerosene heater. I wish kerosene was cheaper, but not much you can do about that. I have read that you can use #1 diesel with a bit of alcohol added; not sure if I want to go through all that, although diesel is about 2 bucks a gallon cheaper. More research needed.