Coleman Dual Fuel Stove 533 Performance test on Different Fuels
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The ultimate post apocalyptic stove!
You know what shocks me given how long the multi fuel stoves have been around, and there isn't head to head tests, cocktails, recipes on different fuels...
Imagine trying to use heavier fuels like paraffin/kerosene/diesel in Canada where these things may not be liquid all year around...
Rubbing alcohol... Gee along the post apocalyptic theme, I would have thought ethanol would be the ubiquitous solvent easy to make...
But we have what we have.
Glad someone did some tests,
Thank you for the comment! I just returned from Canada. You guys have so much wood out there, so you don't need any other fuel :) Stove like this one is ideal for camping or some emergency use, like power outages due to storm or for the first months of SHTF (which is coming I guess). But then we'll have to switch to wood anyway.
I agree. I'm going to try mixing in some aviation fuel, not a high percent, as I need to use it up. I know there is a warning against aviation fuel but I won't use a high percentage mix.
Nice video. Thanks for sharing the comparison between different fuels. Very methodical.
Thank you!
In order for the alcohol to work the fuel jet orifice would need to be twice as big as the gasoline or Coleman fuel orifice just as if pure alcohol is used in a car. That might be an interesting experiment as well. I drilled out the gas orifice to twice the size in my MSR Whisperlite International and with a draft control on the air intake can run alcohol in that stove very well. I brazed a handle on the draft control so I can adjust the amount of air and can still fold the stove up as normal. I got a valve and hose off of a cheap butane stove and can run butane as well as kerosene, jet fuel, et. al. Thanks for the experiment here. I guess I won't be running alcohol in my Coleman one burner stove.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! It's great to know that we have the flexibility to utilize almost any available fuel.
Thank you.
I have a variation of this stove and a variety of fuels, but no gasoline. Makes me appreciate that maybe getting a litre or two unleaded might make my stove last longer.
Great point!
I'll bet you could make an adapter for the fill hole and feed propane to use as another fuel alternative. My dad used to have a Coleman duel fuel 3 burner stove, and he had an adapter that I'm not sure if he bought it or made custom, but we used propane, and that gas was already pressurized from the propane tank.
I have one of these that I ran on a 50:50 mix of old gas and varsol (mineral spirits). It smelled a bit but it burned cleanly and very hot. These are virtually identical to the 508 stoves and use the same generators. I have both and they are equal as far as I have seen. If I run gasoline I always add a couple of tbsp of seafoam to the tank and when done and putting it into storage I like to run carb cleaner through it for a minute and then follow with coleman fuel. A little bit of maintenance and these things will literally last decades with no repairs needed.
Thank you for the tip!
Excellent video...this info is exactly was I was looking for: what fuel , time and amount 👍👍👍
Thank you for the comment!
Thank you for this excellent comparison. It looks like Coleman fuel is the way to go for me.
Thank you for the comment! Yes, it's one of the best fuels on the market. I also use Primus fuel which has the same specs.
With ethanol you can make the flames visible with rubbing the Stove with salt water and let it dry. The flame will heat up salt (NaCl) residues, catch a few Na Atoms, and the Flame will become yellow.
Beware of rust though.
Will it produce toxins?
@@Kang_Guru. No. Its sodium chloride in burning rthanol fumes. I know of no reaction between the two that would produce any toxin. NaCl (cooking salt) and ethanol (drinking alcohol) alone have their inherent toxicity though - too much salt intake: death, too much alcohol: also death.
Excellent information! I ue Shellite. I want a second but they don't appear to be available in Australia any more . . .
They're available on US eBay with international delivery.
google it,they are available still
I use a 50/50 shellite/petrol mix. Supercheap had a Clearance Sale on the 1 litre bottles about a year ago so I got a few then. There is a bulk solvent chemical place out at Penrith that sells large quantities of everything and it works out much cheaper.
I have had to buy 3 generators in the last 3 months running on unleaded petrol and try as I might with all sorts of methods you cannot clean them out. From new and after about 10 times it starts to play up and by 15 times it's clogged. The thin wire that goes through it becomes solid, I managed to free one of the wires up but it still won't light. I contacted Coleman to complain and they said I should use Coleman fuel every third time which was news to me. I'm loath to buy any more at £23.00 per item. Coleman fuel is far too expensive so beware if you're using unleaded petrol.
A good carburetor cleaner can solve your problems. Just spray into that tube some good amount of liquid and leave it for a couple of hours. Then spray inside again to remove all the residue.
@@ElectronicsComputers ok thanks, I'll give it a go.
@lusiscus do you live in the UK?
I have some suggestions for you if you do, or I will try suggest the best approximates if you live else where
I cleared out a blocked genetator
@@DariaM00re hi, yes I do live in the UK.
@@lusiscus Ok, you mentioned the inner wire, i blasted Wd40 down my generator then used the wire and ran it inside the generator in and out from both ends to free up the carbon
If you have access to it, after this you can blast out stuff with some compressed air
I did that a few times over to clear out the blockage
Mines been working for a year now with no issues, this is the original generator that came with the unit
The method I've taken since to stop any further blocking is my fuel mixture
I have a 500ml red fuel bottle from go outdoors
I fill that up with shell super fuel
I keep a small bottle of red ex in my camping gear at home.
I put a single cap of redex with that 500ml of super fuel
The cleaning properties of the super fuel and redex together, plus the higher octane fuel and I guess reduced ethanol all seem to work together and my generator hasn't blocked since
Hi, the other day I've seen a guy using petrol (simple unleaded bought at petrol ⛽️)...is that safe or would you recommend for example heating oil/karosene a better choice?
If you can't use Coleman or any camping fuel, then regular petrol is the best option.
Thanks for making the video, I don't think such a short exposure to alcohol will ruin your seals as you followed that up with other fuels effectively rinsing them clean. Might be worth checking before an outing. Again I really took a lot from this post. Cheers
Thanks for the comment 😊
Very usefull video!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you.
I have a question. I received 2 new ones but wont burn, it leaks from under the burner . Im using kerosene, what am i doing wrong?
Thx
Is it leaking before the ignition or during operation?
@@ElectronicsComputers during operation.
After the valve opens whether it fires or not
@@ElectronicsComputers unbelievable, kt turn out the new fuel i was trying kerosene would not be volatile enough, stove axtually works with known fuel white gasoline
Interesting. I have seen different results on a different video, but then you were using Coleman Premium Blend fuel and the other guy was using just regular old can of Coleman Camping Fuel and also a fresh can of Crown White Gas. His water boiled quickest with low octane gasoline. What I was most impressed with was that it took significantly LESS Coleman Premium Blend Fuel to do the job. Gasoline fumes more making it more dangerous. I camped for 3 months with a single burner white gas stove, cooking for just myself, and never even used a whole gallon of the white gas.
From my experience, the best fuel for this stove is Coleman Premium Blend and PRIMUS fuel. Overall, I think it's the best portable stove as of today for camping, prepping, surviving, etc. I made a very small upgrade to it. I'll make a video about it soon.
How does your stove consume that less fuel? I weighed mine after approx 3 Minutes of running at high setting, used Coleman fuel, and it was about 18g lighter than before (weighed the whole stove)...really strange
I tested that stove at medium power with all fuels.
@@ElectronicsComputers Ok thank you. And how many pumps did you give it before lighting up? You didnt repumping it during it was on, right? I am asking becaus I dont get a clear blue flame. There is always yellow flames in between. And it always makes "puff" noises during it is running at low setting, same like yours with the alcohol. As soon as I get a bit higher the pops dissappear. I am really dissappointed by the stove. Its so fucking expensive and again does not work as it should
Its my second brand new stove, the first also didnt work properly...
@@ElectronicsComputers Ok, I tested again. I am loosing pressure after a very short time...The flame turns yellow after 3 Minutes and I need to repump...Again I got a defective product. Thats it for me with the Coleman. What a piece of shit
I relied on mine in Holland, I miss it, I’m older now and my old lass threw it in a skip with everything I owned, the 2 one that is , never even used it,
They are still available on the market. The best stove from my point of view.
Hmm...
I have no problem running 99% isopropyl alcohol. It runs as smoothly as unleaded gas. No issue boiling 1 quart of water in 5 mins.
But I'll still run unleaded gas since it's much cheaper.
I think the Coleman fuel only flamed at the beginning because of the leftover Kerosene in the generator/burner.
When burning kerosine put a little dish of alcohol to preheat the generator. You'll get a nice burn without the soot.😊
Thank you for the comment!
I'm wondering how much fuel needed if using diesel or bio diesel
It won't work on diesel for sure.
Diesel is kerosene
@@gunnutz2030 If Diesel were Kerosene it would be called Kerosene.
I want to know how long one tank will last on white camp fuel
It will run for about 130 minutes from full to an empty tank.
@@ElectronicsComputers You're amazing thank you !!
I think those using gasoline should really use a fuel stabiliser. These are about £7 or €10 a bottle and stop the varnish action of fuel going bad over time. It’s really the fuel in the generator that is clogging up when it cools. Fuel stabilisers (the stuff used in portable power generators) gives petrol or gasoline a shelf life of up to 2 years. Ordinary gasoline (petrol) can varnish and coat the generator inside a month.
I can give you a cast iron guarantee that Coleman fuel just has fuel stabilisers and a small amount of detergent and less ethanol. Here in the UK we have E10 and E5. Coleman fuel may be as little as E1 or 1% ethanol.
Thank you for the comment! I'm fairly certain that Coleman fuel contains fuel stabilizers, as it boasts an impressive shelf life and includes other enhancements.
impressed with the kerosene
Yeah, it burns hot
I wonder how a mix of the alcohol and kerosene would burn.
You can not mix alcohol and kerosene. Alcohol is not soluble in kerosene. Even you mix them by shaking they get separated immediately after you stop shaking.
If you prime the stove it starts and runs well on rubbing alcohol and kero.
Thank you for the comment! It worked flawlessly on kerosene.
can Coleman dual fuel stove or lantern actually handle liquid paraffin? I would prefer paraffin with unlimited shelf life compared to kerosine around 5 years! Anybody any idea if Coleman duals work with liquid paraffin?
Kerosene has an indefinate storage time as long as it's sealed.
They are the same things called by different names in different countries.
Were can I find such a gas stove
All the links in the description.
Nice
Thanks
my coleman fuel is perfectly clear.. why is your pink?
Coleman fuel has had different colored dyes over time: blue, pink or green.
Aspen 4 Fuel £25 for 5 lt. The best for these stoves.
Yep, that one is very good!
True. I had a very good experience with them but I used pay £15 for 5L.
Can it run with diesel?
No! You need something more flammable.
diesel and kerosene are basically the same..
@@tallyrc Kerosene is more flammable than disel. Flammability is determined by the flash point of a material. This means that the flash point is the minimum temperature at which a liquid forms a vapor above its surface in sufficient concentration that it can be ignited.
Kerosene holds a flash point of 100°F and an auto-ignition temperature of 428°F. Diesel holds a flash point of 126 °F and an auto-ignition temperature of 493 °F.
Which means, diesel is more combustible than kerosene since 126 °F > 100 °F, but Kerosene has lower flash point temperature, so kerosene is more flammable than diesel.
@@ElectronicsComputers everything I run kerosene in, I frequently run diesel based on availability..
@@ElectronicsComputers try diesel mix gasoline 50/50 😁
Have you ever had the gasoline fuel burst into a bomb ?? Just am wondering Sir. Thanks
Dual fuel doesn't mean "any" fuel. Dual = two. It refers to "white gas" (Stoddard fuel) or pump gas (unleaded.)
He's experimenting, which is great. That's how they were invented in the first place.
The setting: A grade school classroom somewhere in Kansas. Let's say, Wichita.
Ok settle down kids, settle down, we have to watch this video of a nice man lighting a little stove on different fuels. WOW, I know it DOES sound dangerous. Oh that brand looks familiar.
What do you kids think he should do first? That's right, Jimmy, read the instructions. Hmmm. Well that's strange. He...he .... doesn't seem to be following the instructions. They're right there, I wonder why he doesn't read them. I don't know either.
Do you see the instructions mister directly in front of you by the valve and fuel cap? Yes, right... here, Stacy, it's a movie. He can't hear you or see you go sit down now. Silly girl.
What direction should the lever be when LIGHTing? That's right Jimmy? Correct. The LIGHT position.
What can happen if its not, Jimmy? Right again, you can have trouble lighting it.
Here's a tricky one. What should you do right after the stove lights, Jimmy? Right again! Pump another 30 pumps of air into the tank.
Why do we do that? Correct! Jimmy you're doing amazing. Yes it's to replenish the air from the instant lighting procedure so the stove doesn't lose power and go out while cooking.
Why didn't the guy in the video turn the stove on high for the fastest boil? That's a hard one, huh? I don't know either, Jimmy. I mean, he's just doing a boil time test. What was he thinking? Never mind, we can't know for sure, can we. That would be called conjecture.
How did he empty all the fuel out. This one's extra credit. That's right Jimmy, you can't just pour it all out because of the filler port design that ensures the rignt amount of space in the tank for air to be pumped. GOOD!
What do you think the nice man in the video should have done, Jimmy? I think that's a great idea, Jimmy, yes he should have read the instructions. But where can he find the instruciton? Remember, we covered this at the beginning......Jimmy again? Wow, right again, in the original packaging and ON THE SIDE OF THE STOVE.
Jimmy, how did you know all the right answers today you got them all right. I see, you read the instructions, well that would explain it.
So what did we all learn today children? RTFIM Read The Fu(&ing Intruction Manual.
Oh MY children. We don't need to use THAT word, ever.
Where did you learn that horrible word? I see. I'll have to have a talk with this Mike Morgan fella......
Have a super weekend.
Don't take me too seriously, I'm too OCD for UA-cam and know quite a bit about Coleman stoves. Hope you find it funny. Still worthwhile. I would have bet against it staying lit on alcohol without a bigger jet or throttling the air intake. Cool! Kerosene will run with a good preheat, but not so well on low or full high. The sweet spot is about 75 percent from my experience with JP-8. The low octane and Coleman fuel should have been nearly identical, but I don't know the pump gas quality or additive packages where you got yours.
Good to see it running on all these. Here's a link to explain why you light Coleman stoves on high/light. King Coleman show how instant lighting works and the valve is nearly identical, though it looks a little different, the fuel and air tube are the same. ua-cam.com/video/7TqGkf5eURc/v-deo.html
I love the effort you went to there. You'd be a detailed perfect employee.
Noticed the same behaviour on Ethanol and I don't know why
I think it's because of the generator tube. All alcohol stoves don't have that tube. Maybe fuel evaporates too fast and the amount of fuel coming to the burner is not enough for a stable work.
@@ElectronicsComputers I have a chinese petrol stove and it has an alcohol nozzle with a bigger hole but even that goes out sometimes and the burner doesn't burn as hot as with the petrol nozzle. As long as there's priming fuel the alcohol stove will stay lit but without primer fuel it quickly goes out. What I currently do is every 5-6 minutes I'll turn it up so far that liquid fuel comes out of the nozzle again so first there's a big big flame and then the priming cup fills I turn at back down and it'll work again for 5 minutes. In all fairness my alcohol has about 30% water content. It's from a destillery the first 10% that you can't drink or you go blind and I can get it basically for free. Also use it in my car as fuel
Isopro and ethanol probably burn too lean to be used in this stove. I run the stove on E10 fuel and works perfectly.
Se nota que le dio más bomba al final cuando le puso el combustible Coleman.
I gave 25 or 30 pumps to every fuel.
try denatured alcohol
Под алкоголь нужно другую форсунку. Как и под дизель и керосин.
That was about 20 oz of water, not a Liter (33.8 oz).
24oz=0.7L
Open that valve up
Yes I noticed that.
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You’re supposed to lite it on high