Kickstarter: Force Feedback Yoke
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
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Seems like the perfect time to do another run of these, with the new Microsoft Flight Simulator being so popular.
Maybe it will prompt the big manufacturers to produce something. They are able to make pretty decent racing wheels with FFB for only two or three hundred notes.
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$1800 with "optional" yoke handle!
This is awesome and please make a whole set of force feedback products including pedals, cyclic and collective for helis.
Guys... 1.550 USD is NOT affordable for the common flight simmer! What a dissapointment...
Jesper Fuglsang Nielsen Ridiculpus price, over inflated and unsustainable. Just a get rich quick scheme. Fail.
Compare this to what people are paying $500 for these days. A top of the line FFB driving wheel runs $1500-$2000. The price point is right where I thought it'd be. They just need to come up with a joystick!
@@BjornTheF3llHanded you can't paten a concept only a device that has a concept. therefore they are free to design whatever they want so long as the device does not use specific technology that has been used elsewhere
Grate idea. Yoke, no friction, Force Feedback. This is a device I was always dream about all my life. For game like Lander from Psygnosis 1999 year this devise will be a savior.
The current price is $2000.00 However, you can't order one as they are over a year behind in delivering the initial orders.
tat will be a game changer !
Soo... even after it being kickstarted is this project grounded?
0:51 "no affordable yoke 1285 euro".... and then they price it $1500 ??
Anyone know how to build one ? 1500 for a device that uses arduino's and raspbery pi's seems like a bit too much
How is this cheaper or more affordable than other force feedback yokes that are already for sale? You had me going until I saw the price.
Guys, you have a great idea on your hands and you're executing it nicely, but as stated already, 1K will be a bit over typical budgets (though, i do believe you have a market at flight schools) Btw, the SMT machine in part of the clip is Assembleon Topaz XII - I work for Assembleon as applications engineer, I was pleasantly surprised to see it as part of your clip.
It's actually 2k . If it were only 1k I'd think about buying it.
***** All I know is what their website says ... enlighten me -- where can I get it for 1k?
Hi Rupert Smith thanks for sharing such great information and doing this demo tutorial, I use Thrustmaster Hotas warthog and Saitek combat pedal and wanted to know to tweak Saitek combat rudder pedals dead zones and sensitivity.Would you mind shed a bit of light on how you would config rudder pedals inside Windows,Ctrl panel, Device & printers game controller's? thanks in advance ...
So it's basically like a true linear stepper motor. Neat! :D
$1000 for a yoke is significantly unaffordable for the average simmer. It would be a very nice change to see someone or some company be able to come up with a sincerely affordable force feedback flight yoke for the average simulator buff. Right now, Saitek and CH products have cornered the market with their quality and truly affordable yokes, pedals and throttles. I simply do not see anyone else who is able or willing to do better for similar cost or less.
"quality" you mean these crappy plastics that fall apart when you touch them? right..
yeah dude affordable is defined differently by you than us. $1000 isnt affordable. somewhere around $150-$300 is way better.
so these guys didnt bring an affordable yoke to market. the price is >$1000 which isnt competitive. the words in the video dont match the end price they came up with sadly.
Its not affordable for casual gaming but for sumone that is super into flight simulators and say they only really play Xplane 11 FSX and no other games and maybe put 500+ hours a year into that then $1000 for a Yoke is very affordable.
Flight yokes and FFB wheels for simulators that are on a par or very close to what pro simulators and race teams use will always be much more expensive than something that's designed to sell to a mass market for more "gaming" type use.
Thats not to say some of the cheaper mass market joysticks and FFB wheels are bad, some are increadable and offer amazing value for money !
The thing to keep in mind however is that though a gaming Yolk and a Gaming wheel might look the same as a high end Yolk and wheel the mechanics can be massively different and the market much smaller which is what then causes the price brackets to be different.
I do think its a real shame though with flight simulators that we have not had a good FFB joystick for ages , the microsoft sidwinder FFB joysticks were amazing and no one makes anything like them now and they were WAY more than what most people want for a flight sim joystick and cost under £200
At least with FFB steering wheels the Logitech G29 and the T300 are really good devices for the money and really connect you to the game even if the forces are not realistic they are awesome and utterly transform driving sims.
In the end I think it comes down to market size risk and huge up front costs when it comes to hardware I think in the 90s Flight sims some how hit really wide market but it sort of died down in the late 2000s. I do think VR might help push new companies to do sub $300 FFB joysticks though so have to look out for that !
Keep it around 500€ and you have a buyer!!
I wonder this is better or brunners yoke?
people complaining about price surprises me! Think about your investment in all aspects of your life, your TV your alcohol intake, dinners, fuel, house rent etc. Really I think people don't get what is involved in this technology.
Where did you guys get your 737 style control wheel (yoke)?
How did this turn out anyway?
£600 and I'll buy,,, what's currently being asked is far to much for the average person, please review your pricing
$1,550 ≠ affordable
you just made a very fancy and complicated sex toy 2:30
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I can’t stop fucking laughing.
@@Gorilla_Jones same here
Legend mate Legend!!!!!!!! next level of innovation!!!!!
Is this available or still in the works? If so, update please and ty.
RIP in peace.
Where did you get your yoke
Amazing! I can't buy it because i'm from Argentina and i live very far away from there, but i hope you progress and your development continue been better.
Why not have UPS ship it to you? If you can afford a 2 thousand dollar yoke, surely international shipping wouldn't be much more out of the question . :)
This is genius!!!!! I want one!!!
Yea ok....$1,000-^ not affordable for me.
what happened to this project?
Still available?
good job making it affordable guys, guess we are all stuck with saitek.
Hey Nick! The video is a little old now but keep in mind that at the time the project was launched you could buy a new BMW for the cost of a yoke. At the moment this is the lowest cost FFB yoke on the market by ~$800.
Patrick McFadden well shouldnt the price of them have gone way down by now they are still the same price
Awesome! Set it up so I can easily switch out different yoke styles and I'm sold! Now... what about the rudder pedals? ;-)
Awesome! I can't buy it because i'm from Argentina and i live very far away from there, but i hope you progress with this and your development continue being better.
Great design!
Hi Iris, can you let me know where to get one of these?
I bet the entire flight sim community will be happy to pay that kind of money to use something in a $50.00 sim program.
we have all ready we need your help. just build one sell it build more
Very nice, now make a joystick!
lol, cause rare earth magnets and giant coils of enamel wire aren't expensive at alllll
Thanks for the idea. I think i could make one myself. Save me around $1000
Many of you are fully aware by now about Iris Flight Dynamics and their "pro consumer level" full control loading flight simulation control yoke. The project was initially funded by a KickStarter campaign with a whopping USD $86,000 pledge by supporters. The downside? The retail cost was far too high for the average flight simulation enthusiast with a now $2,000 price tag. Well even if you were able to pony up the cash, don't bother. At present, not only is the product no longer available for order, but some customers who placed paid orders months ago still have yet to receive theirs.
A look on the forum also shows a lot of displeased customers many of which have requested the process of refunds. For those who have received their yokes, complaints range from functionality problems to lack of communication & support to poor cosmetic issues. The latest information is a response from a member of Iris ensuring the products have restarted production (they stopped?) and they are working hard to fill all current orders. That said, they also state that the company is going to be getting out of the manufacturing business until a manufacturing deal is reached which could be several months away. Till such deal is reached (with possibly whom?) no new orders are going to be taken. Iris reaffirms they will continue to build all current orders in-house and will cease production afterward. For $2,000 a pop, is it really worth all this trouble? Certainly, the technology is impressive. Thanks to ADX reader James Long for the tip on this information. You can take a look at what's transpiring in their forum via the source link below.
ADX Update: IRIS Dynamics' Founder and CTO Patrick McFadden responds to ADX readers and sheds some light on the situation. It's a very honest and humble response to the issues users have been having and I am confident the team has and is taking the appropriate steps to correct the current issues and continue working toward delivering a quality product to end-users.
nice project! but the price too high.
Hmm I use to have a Force Feedback Yoke and joystick a long time ago I think they were made by Microsoft what ever happen to them? I know my yoke back in the late 90s costed $1199 so it would be over $2k in today's money.
Patent restriction was placed on FFB sticks, that's what happened :(
So how much is it
You guys are straight trolling at 2:11
Most definitely NOT affordable. You need to be at $500 US for it to be "affordable".
The original campaign had 180 something backers and brought in like $80k+ CAD. That means the average pledge was $460 CAD.
simming is for those not on welfare :D
those on welfare should be looking for a job :D
The hell does welfare have to do with it? Not everyone has $1000 laying around to drop on one part of an already expensive hobby.
$500 is TOO high. This is simmers we are talking about. We complain about $30 planes. It needs to be less than $200 or it will not be mainstream. The Saitek yoke works perfectly well, with a few little mods. Being able to pick one up for $120 used in great shape will always be preferable to a $500 product. There will be the extremist, who will willingly pay that kind of money, but they are NOT the mainstream guys. And they are not enough to support a company doing this. If they can't reach common market prices, they will fail. It's as simple as that.
i would like to point out that most planes don"t have much if any force coming through the yolk.
That's not true. I'm a real world pilot, and the further you pull on the yoke, the more resistance you get. These guys are going about it correctly, but have to get the costs down.
Stev A ok thats fine but that could be achieved through a simple spring you dont need to buy a firce feed back yolk fir this effect there are even types of springs that give you more resistance the more you compress the so say what you will but my opinion is still valid
A spring wouldn´t resemble the increaing force on the elevators/ailerons the higher the airspeed gets.
Awesome!!!!
Great Idea, BUT it reminds me back in 2004 how the SPORT title was going to bring affordable flying??? Projected $60000 which ended up being closer to $200000. You SHOULD NOT use the word affordable because that is NOT in your project. ITS EXPENSIVE but if its that good only the ones who see its value are going to buy it. The narrative " its affordable" is just not reality. You need to be honest and not falsely portray the cost to get people involved. Airplanes are expensive and good simulation is the same.
That like 1700 to much. I thought this was supposed to be affordable.. guess not.
This is a joke. It is expensive.
Seems like this is a dead project?
No they just stopped producing them
shut up and take my money !
$1000 force feedback yoke? Shut up and take my money!
Thought I admin I would prefer if you ditched Web based configuration and network connectivity of HW itself in order to simplify development and cut production and cost and thus final retail price.
I was trying to listen to the stupid music. Can you please lower your voice?
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Why ethernet? I see no sense in making ethernet connection, it only rise the price. If you really love ethernet please make ethernet mouse and keyboard first and then think about yoke :D
I NEED YOUR HELP
2020 failed project
But it was a 2014 project, not a 2020 one...
You are so far of my budget
This is a joke
You get to call Seattle at the right address dude ...do anybody hear about BOEING ? Yeah it him !!!!! the only one who can start those kind of money delivery.....are you saying more than 1000 dollars ? With this amount I will buy a Cessna 172 ......