If we took the technology today and put it into two-cycle engines we would have amazing extremely lightweight fire breathing dragons! Long live the 2 stroke👊
Evinrude did that. Unfortunately they were on unsteady feet financially and made the mistake of sourcing critical components such as injectors from China. It gave them a reputation for unreliability which ultimately spelled their doom. Has only top quality components been used on the E-tec it MIGHT have been a dominant force in the market.
@@prevost8686 I love my motor and so do a lot of other ppl , most of the haters are Merc guys, lol but now all they have is 4 strokes if they can afford them
@@prevost8686the g2s were pretty dialed in but they still had that bad reputation from years before and decided to charge too much for their outboards even with the reputation, I’ll keep my 1987 90 evinrude going forever
In 1975/6 Evinrude sent Jimbo McConnell/ Johnny Saunders to South Africa for the 200 mile endurance race, they sent their 4 rotor powerhead Evinrude outfit all went according to plan. They were the fastest and come the race they refueled the large tank to the brim, well it was a clock start and the outfit could not get on the plane, they tried for many minutes but no success, meanwhile i was in my home built catamaran powered with a V6 Mercury powerhead and won the race! It was the Rand Daily Mail 200 race at the Vaal river. After this i purchased Bob Spalding's JPS MOLINARI outfit and won the SA Formula one powerboat championship until 1979!
I built a couple big loopers back in the 90`s Lotta motor and 8 one barrels. The vacuum lines were and still are a nightmare to route right. The biggest down fall on the recreation motors were they had trouble getting out the gate with the big gearcase and 1.78 to 1 ratios. We put v four case on them with the right splined drive shaft and that with the 2 to 1 ration and smaller bullet made a lot of difference drag racing them. Sold the last one I built to the mayor of Chappel Hills NC.
As a young child (5yo?) in the mid 70's I stood next to one of the Evinrude V-8's on an F1 boat and that pretty much drove the nail in for a life of horsepower. In addition to what ASE said you don't trim the prop shaft to a positive angle in a 3 point hydro or it will go to the sky. the back of the boat is out of the water only riding on the prop that creates lift and the rear most part of the 2 front sponsons in an effort to reduce hydrodynamic drag.
Got it working Gregory. The video didn't disappoint. I love seeing outboard motor history and assaults on speed records. Those guys really did a number on that Evinrude to get it to hold together at over 10k rpm. And wow, you've just gotta love the sound as well. Thanx for the upload sir. I enjoyed it.
Hull design is the absolute key to going fast. You could have probably added 200 hp and still not broken 200 mph on that boat. I can't imagine going that fast on water. I've done 80 mph in a boat and it's fucking terrifying on the Ohio. All a fast boat want's to do is kill you, make a little mistake, catch a wake wrong, start chine walking, and it can be all over in an eye blink. Power heads for fast boats cost tens of thousands of dollars. And the damn things don't have cams or valves, lots less parts than a four stroke. I used to work on Bass Boats, and those guys would spend lots of money to go 5 mph faster. My boss rebuilt engines that had seized and every customer complained of losing top speed. I got to looking at the reed cages, and found the reeds weren't closing completely. Tiny bits of piston and embedded in the rubber coating and were holding the reeds slightly open. I took a set apart and picked the particles out and got the reeds shut and installed them in a good hang around the shop customer and his boat was running like new again. I'm a car mechanic and only worked on boats for a couple of years, I taught my boss a lot of things. He couldn't find his puller for a lower unit, I used compressed air to blow it loose, he like to have fell over. We didn't have jets for an engine, so I hung stripped wire in the air bleeds to fatten the mixture. That became advice for the evenrude help line when he mentioned it to a rep.
I've been 110 plus many times. There is no other rush like it. If a boat is designed right speed isn't an issue. It's the I'll designed boats that weekend warrior guys try to push that will hurt someone. If a cookie cutter bass rig is balls out and chine walking at 68 she just ain't designed to safely go in the 80s or more. Where as a well designed efficient hull running 100+ mph will be at a leisurely jog at the same 68mph the other guy was sawing the wheel trying to keep her right on his cookie cutter pos. Speed isn't that dangerous in a well made hull. It can be bad in a pos non efficient rig.
originaLkomatoast , and in which Category and Class did you race your innerstellar 2 stroke hydroplane? I grew up in the sport of outboard Hydroplane racing, what year and location did you smoke everyone?
Men! I'm amazed at the pistons, crank, ignition, prop, and most importantly, the driver! The piston must reach TDC thousands of times a second, still impressed!
At 10k rpm 166x a second.So thats 166 revs a second ...then a v8 is 8 piston power strokes x 166 x ..per second ...1,028 by 8 different brothers spinning together.!!Yes 2 stroke looper.
Bob Wartinger is the diver and creator of this boat. He is why this record was set! He has been one of the best and most creative record breakers for decades. I knew him... I am just a runabout driver/ Dave Hamilton.... He was always faster than most of us...
Great Video...Love it !!!! This was OMC'S crown jewel only the Best. These outboards were Awesome. It's "MY" opinion but I think that the Only way that anyone would beat or even come close to this record is if they were to use an Evinrude , either an Old school race outboard like this one -OR- Go and modify or custom build a NEW Evinrude E-TEC Racing outboard. Maybe then it may happen but until then...Congratulations & long live the King of outboards !!!!!
All ways remember Gents This is only a Piston driven boat And very surprised with the performance...Weldone.. Keep an eye out for the Australian World Record attempt. JET hydroplane...
How many systems could this boat have? It was the 1980's. It had a big ass engine, a gas tank, and a driver. It's all the commentator talked about. lol
the "advances" you speak of have absolutely no effect on output. they may be underrated as a marketing gimmick (ex. evinrudes 225 ficht actually put out about 240+ hp), but not faster. actually they are heavier. the only thing they advanced on was making them cleaner. all this fancy computer stuff is just to make them cleaner, not faster.
I’ve been 105 mph in a 650lb Allison Bass boat with a modified OMC 200 Looper. Boat was more stable at that speed than at 90 mph. Allison aerodynamic’s are incredible. Yep
Amazing how flat it was sitting on the water. Now they are up on the trim-tabs and its really only the prop thats in the water. Not to mension the old open cock-pit.
+mark sharley , Weird because he holds over 100 World Outboard records. I've talked with Bob about that record. some interesting tweaks to that boat to get it going that fast. I spent LOTS of time at Turlock, Oroville and D lake in a dive/rescue boat
David Pez , yes it did hang in the lobby, and the Miss Budweiser and Smokin Joes Unlimited Hydros were there too. However sadly the Race Rock Cafe in Orlando closed a few years ago. I understood all the race equipment went either back to the original owners or was sold at auction.
Couldn't watch cuz my cheesy iPhone 4 doesn't like QuickTime. Ain't that the beach!? Anyways, recognized ur screenname from a certain powerboat org. Greetings from SETX! (Bowser)
Well, did they come back the next year and the 27 years hence and what were the results or did they just say the hell with it and say we'll never beat our old mark!
The world record, for a single engine outboard class, stands unbroken to this day. The engine was a Formula One, 3.5 liter V8 (not the production 3.6 liter, or later a 4.0 liter). It shared no common parts whatsoever with the public's production model and cost $37,000 for the powerhead alone, sans midsection and gearcase, even back in the mid 80's. My foggy recollection is that roughly 400 units were ever made, total, but I may be off on that number a smidge. It was Gary's sincere intention to do this again and break 200 mph (average). He sadly experienced a severe heart attack Feb. 6, 2005, while golfing with his physician, and passed away unexpectedly. There was ongoing discussion right up to the evening before he passed about hauling the record boat out of its museum in Orlando and making the attempt again. Almost 15 long years later, his record, with Bob Wartinger driving, lives on past his sad departure. God bless Gary Garbrecht, Les Cahoon, Joe McMillan and all the amazing talent of those golden days!
@@TheDefiantInfidel interesting thanks for finally shedding some light! i always was told this v8 had stock crank and rods (balanced, of course) with forged cyro pistons. i guess thats not correct!
For what little bits I can contribute and still recall accurately, you're very welcome, Sir. The forged pistons were made by Mahle (and I believe they were cryogenically treated after hand balancing) and were normal F1 components I believe. The forged steel rods were balanced (also F1 pieces) on an F1 crank. Most of the engine utilized "stock" parts that were modified to some degree, but they were stock only on the F1's. The somewhat modular production "looper" V4, V6 and V8 ("refrigerator") outboards of the day were completely different items and not suitable for the purpose for numerous reasons, bulk and high CG being among the biggest. They also had very high rod big end bearing speed and lacked enough port area availability to make enough power to do the task at hand. The record boat's gearcase had an overdriven ratio ( .9:1 I think? ) and the prop was forged. I can't recall who cut it, but I'm leaning towards Craig Dewald. Maybe Spinelli? That said, Grandpa Seebold was around Second Effort a bit in those days, too, training up a new propeller guy. Foggy, but very nice old memories.
@@TheDefiantInfidel Wow! Thats amazing. Jeeze you know these motor better than 99.9% of these keyboard engineers. Refreshing. I've worked and rebuilt OMC motors for about 20 years (have over 25 motors haha) and just really enjoy them. Always love hearing about them. Those stock rods are ugly but tough! gotta love em'.
Being willing to run at those speeds on water can be attributed to one of two things: 1. Big balls. 2. Mental Health issues. I suppose it’s possible that a combination of the two could be blamed.
Bro a Honda 2.0 litre can make 600hp bone stock with forced induction. People act like technology isn't better now. These 2 strokes are great but what has been done to these to get them turning 10k rpm+. Do they come with forged cranks..curious I love 2 strokes
It is funny because I have a 300 hp V8 1989 Evinrude outboard motor and it doesn' t go that fast due to the fact that it is on a 1988 28" Sleekcraft Enforcer.. I can say that I have had a lot of problems with the motor but it was worth fixing..
Jody Amundson , actually yours isnt as fast because they reconfigured that engine to run on Methanol. That means alot more compression and higher rpms, as well as a different crank and other internals. There was very little of that engine that actually stayed an oem evinrude..
It wasn't a production Evinrude or Johnson (btw, they were the same production powerhead except for the cowling paint job... both OMC). It was an extremely limited production F1 3.5 liter that was used. They shared no parts with the production 3.6 or later 4.0 liter V8's at all. Every F1 powerhead received 50 hours of porting and 40 hours hand assembly as the normal build routine. This one had slightly more radical porting than the F1 spec, but not much further. It could have used a lot more compression for the methanol, but was indeed higher than the race gasoline F1's. F1's all ran some rather archaic (but it was the 80's and tech was in infancy) fuel injection through eight individual, 2 barrel throttle bodies. The exhaust was standard F1... 8 into 4 into 2 into 1, exiting above water line in the lower midsection. The crankshaft, two piece rods, pistons and rings were inherently very special compared to production items, but also standard F1. The engine had to be very reliable as it is an air entrapment style hull... any engine, gearcase or prop failures at those speeds will kill power suddenly, drop the transom and cause the hull to take a huge gulp of air resulting in blow-over. Wartinger's life couldn't be further risked by an eggshell engine. Bob was a calm, thinking and talented man and surely damn brave to rise to the task.
Turbo it and mount DFI with and exhaust trapping valves to build boost, that could make a serious v8 2 stroke turbo, OMC v8 was nice small block 2 stroke
How much time on the motor? Where can it be seen? It is a 3 liter loopcharged two stroke? How much are you asking? I am a friend of the McCunes and Jonny Sanders in Denver Colorado. Thomas Hein (303) 588-5321 theindds@mac.com Ps any spare parts?
Pure Evinrude power take them 4 strokes Mercury junk I had one I know 2 stroke. Yamaha junk. Give me my etec 2008 300 etec runs and runs I run tc w3 setting on computer a little heavy on oil purrs like kitten. If not really like 6 year warranty on zuki. Evinrude is close with 5 years JT 🇺🇸🐟🎣🌴🛥⛱😊😃🙏🏻🙏🏻
Those speeds one little mistake or one little log in the water. It looks like a missile coming at you at 200 miles an hour. I don't think it's worth it. Death can easily come death can easily come.
"To the maximum, and beyond!" For me beyond, having driven a Evinrude on a 15 foot boat until it broke, fixed it and broke it again... I worked out a way to run an outboard on liquid hydrogen and oxygen, so it would run under water, and naturally exhaust pure water. As I was trying to get funding, and had the interest of the great world champion Seebold hydro racing team, I kept hitting the obstacle of super rich oil men that wanted to kill all clean energy work. It seems the technology was found so important to "national security" it was secretly made top secret, and men came to lock me away. I talked my way out of it, even tho my family was also trying to keep secrets and wanted me gone, yet 11 years later am still on the run from a gang called the "Kochtopus'. Still - with H.O.P.E. power my designs could, safely, go well over 200mph, and beyond!
@@74nova36 OK, they are now in the Public Domain - since I have been talking about my Hydrogen Oxygen Piston Engine in public for many years. Trying to gain funds to build a super outboard that would be super supercharged AND exhust pure water, since the high living '70s on the St. Croix Yacht CLub beach. Yet it seems it is just TOO BIG a pill to swallow, or maybe Charle Koch is the ultimate koch blocker.
It will get broken this year... Cadillac is building a new V8 engine outboard with a transmission @ 557 HP thats an outboard The record is going down Evinrude!!!
How, exactly, would such a heavy, ponderous car engine attached to a midsection possibly be able to match the power to weight ration of an explosive 2 stroke? I'll answer that: NEVER. The boat wouldn't be light enough, and the motor wouldn't rev like a 2 stroke. RPM is essential to getting a boat like a hydro up to these speeds. That's what makes the merc 2.4 bridgeport and 2.5 promax so fast on top. The combo of light weight, extremely high revs and high output is a surefire recipe for speed... something a 4 stroke can't match, even IF it produced more power.
This ain’t no big deal. In the 80’s I had a Vangaurd Banshee with a Merk 150 power tower that did 180 miles an hour - nothin done to motor but headers , cam and a 5 blade racing prop!
If we took the technology today and put it into two-cycle engines we would have amazing extremely lightweight fire breathing dragons! Long live the 2 stroke👊
Evinrude did that. Unfortunately they were on unsteady feet financially and made the mistake of sourcing critical components such as injectors from China. It gave them a reputation for unreliability which ultimately spelled their doom. Has only top quality components been used on the E-tec it MIGHT have been a dominant force in the market.
@@prevost8686 I love my motor
and so do a lot of other ppl ,
most of the haters are Merc guys, lol
but now all they have is 4 strokes
if they can afford them
@@hydrostream76 I’ve never owned a Merc in my life but the reliability issues with the E-Tec really gave Evinrude a bad reputation.
100% agree.
@@prevost8686the g2s were pretty dialed in but they still had that bad reputation from years before and decided to charge too much for their outboards even with the reputation, I’ll keep my 1987 90 evinrude going forever
Some epic mullets in this video
In 1975/6 Evinrude sent Jimbo McConnell/ Johnny Saunders to South Africa for the 200 mile endurance race, they sent their 4 rotor powerhead Evinrude outfit all went according to plan.
They were the fastest and come the race they refueled the large tank to the brim, well it was a clock start and the outfit could not get on the plane, they tried for many minutes but no success, meanwhile i was in my home built catamaran powered with a V6 Mercury powerhead and won the race!
It was the Rand Daily Mail 200 race at the Vaal river.
After this i purchased Bob Spalding's JPS MOLINARI outfit and won the SA Formula one powerboat championship until 1979!
Wow
Bob Wartinger drove this boat he didnt even get a mention , he borrowed my boat to race in the UK back in the late 90,s top guy
Don’t believe a fourstroke will ever be this badass.
Sad to see omc is gone now .
omc been gone for decades . evinrude just quit making outboards. no more new two strokes
@@esasaarinen2423 actually 2002,3 last years
@@richardluce775 last year was 2007 for the 2 strokes. made 6-15hp, 40-50hp, and v4 and v6 60 degree motors.
@@esasaarinen2423 umm no the E tec had mad potential, mercury bought them out to stop it....the world needs new 2 strokes
I built a couple big loopers back in the 90`s Lotta motor and 8 one barrels. The vacuum lines were and still are a nightmare to route right. The biggest down fall on the recreation motors were they had trouble getting out the gate with the big gearcase and 1.78 to 1 ratios. We put v four case on them with the right splined drive shaft and that with the 2 to 1 ration and smaller bullet made a lot of difference drag racing them. Sold the last one I built to the mayor of Chappel Hills NC.
Some guy in Sweden put one of those engines with expansion chambers in a little Volvo. It's called the Rudezon.
Rip evenrude what a great moter
I grew up on lake hamilton, used to hear them out there all the time. thanks for posting.
As a young child (5yo?) in the mid 70's I stood next to one of the Evinrude V-8's on an F1 boat and that pretty much drove the nail in for a life of horsepower.
In addition to what ASE said
you don't trim the prop shaft to a positive angle in a 3 point hydro or it will go to the sky. the back of the boat is out of the water only riding on the prop that creates lift and the rear most part of the 2 front sponsons in an effort to reduce hydrodynamic drag.
Ich hab mit 5 Jahren mein erstes Motorbotrennen gesehen. Set dem liebe ich Motorsport.
Got it working Gregory. The video didn't disappoint. I love seeing outboard motor history and assaults on speed records. Those guys really did a number on that Evinrude to get it to hold together at over 10k rpm. And wow, you've just gotta love the sound as well. Thanx for the upload sir. I enjoyed it.
Hull design is the absolute key to going fast. You could have probably added 200 hp and still not broken 200 mph on that boat. I can't imagine going that fast on water. I've done 80 mph in a boat and it's fucking terrifying on the Ohio. All a fast boat want's to do is kill you, make a little mistake, catch a wake wrong, start chine walking, and it can be all over in an eye blink. Power heads for fast boats cost tens of thousands of dollars. And the damn things don't have cams or valves, lots less parts than a four stroke. I used to work on Bass Boats, and those guys would spend lots of money to go 5 mph faster. My boss rebuilt engines that had seized and every customer complained of losing top speed. I got to looking at the reed cages, and found the reeds weren't closing completely. Tiny bits of piston and embedded in the rubber coating and were holding the reeds slightly open. I took a set apart and picked the particles out and got the reeds shut and installed them in a good hang around the shop customer and his boat was running like new again. I'm a car mechanic and only worked on boats for a couple of years, I taught my boss a lot of things. He couldn't find his puller for a lower unit, I used compressed air to blow it loose, he like to have fell over. We didn't have jets for an engine, so I hung stripped wire in the air bleeds to fatten the mixture. That became advice for the evenrude help line when he mentioned it to a rep.
I've been 110 plus many times. There is no other rush like it. If a boat is designed right speed isn't an issue. It's the I'll designed boats that weekend warrior guys try to push that will hurt someone. If a cookie cutter bass rig is balls out and chine walking at 68 she just ain't designed to safely go in the 80s or more. Where as a well designed efficient hull running 100+ mph will be at a leisurely jog at the same 68mph the other guy was sawing the wheel trying to keep her right on his cookie cutter pos. Speed isn't that dangerous in a well made hull. It can be bad in a pos non efficient rig.
god bless 2 strokes
Yeah!
originaLkomatoast lol
Ha ha, you're so full of it it's not even funny...
originaLkomatoast , and in which Category and Class did you race your innerstellar 2 stroke hydroplane?
I grew up in the sport of outboard Hydroplane racing, what year and location did you smoke everyone?
roryblackmore yep, pre EPA regulation 2-strokes, the good old days
God I wish this dude would have shut up when the boat was running
Don't tell PETA he killed a duck at 170MPH...it was duck season so was legal 10:53
I can watch footage like this all day great video and boat history
God bless you, Gary. RIP. Those were truly the great old days.
Men! I'm amazed at the pistons, crank, ignition, prop, and most importantly, the driver!
The piston must reach TDC thousands of times a second, still impressed!
i think the crank and rods were stock. i do know the 5/16'' big end rods from the 3.0 can handle 6-700 hp stock
At 10k rpm 166x a second.So thats 166 revs a second ...then a v8 is 8 piston power strokes x 166 x ..per second ...1,028 by 8 different brothers spinning together.!!Yes 2 stroke looper.
damn that v8 sounds good
I had a couple of modded 4 liter V8s on my 25ft' Cougar MTR back in the day, those motors sounded like Indy cars back then. miss that boat and set-up.
Bob Wartinger is the diver and creator of this boat. He is why this record was set! He has been one of the best and most creative record breakers for decades. I knew him... I am just a runabout driver/ Dave Hamilton.... He was always faster than most of us...
WOW!! thats awesome🤘
Dr Les Cahoon, is a 2-stroke design legend.
That freaking engine is screaming !!
10,000 rpm at the propeller. LIQUIDNIRVANA
Kenneth Finlay hell yeah! Motor screaming pissed off ready to chop the water to SHREDS! Long live the lightweight two strokes
I watched this video AGAIN, can't even count how many times I've watched it, Kool video, ;-)
"Men who dream the dream will awaken in the lofty clouds of achievement!"
Great quote:-)
Great Video...Love it !!!! This was OMC'S crown jewel only the Best. These outboards were Awesome. It's "MY" opinion but I think that the Only way that anyone would beat or even come close to this record is if they were to use an Evinrude , either an Old school race outboard like this one -OR- Go and modify or custom build a NEW Evinrude E-TEC Racing outboard. Maybe then it may happen but until then...Congratulations & long live the King of outboards !!!!!
Great vid ,love the American commentator just love the late 70 ,s 80,s the boat just looks like is skimming, the rooster tail us just top dollar
600HP 10000rpm excellent.
All ways remember Gents
This is only a Piston driven boat
And very surprised with the performance...Weldone..
Keep an eye out for the Australian World Record attempt. JET hydroplane...
I have never gone that fast but I have driven a 3 point hydro and it was intoxicating....
you fly em
The first Record for OMC, was by Bob Hering. Why was Bob's name Omitted?
That boat ran so flat crazy. The motor doesn't even have to be trimmed. Its angle is down slightly. Probably alot safer like that.
How many systems could this boat have? It was the 1980's. It had a big ass engine, a gas tank, and a driver. It's all the commentator talked about. lol
it was more high tech than you think i worked on it frank
Why has this record not been broken despite the huge advances in outboard motors since then? Because no one else has the balls to even attempt it. Lol
the "advances" you speak of have absolutely no effect on output. they may be underrated as a marketing gimmick (ex. evinrudes 225 ficht actually put out about 240+ hp), but not faster. actually they are heavier. the only thing they advanced on was making them cleaner. all this fancy computer stuff is just to make them cleaner, not faster.
4 strokes are slow and heavy buddy they can’t go this fast
Mercury has a 600hp outboard now (stock) they need to break this...
@@tommccallan8802 *500hp, the v8 2 stroke in this video was making over 600hp
Because of soy!
Fun video of the past!
I still have my motor 1978 v6 250hp Johnson on my 16 foot side winder
yea those 1978 250s where beasts lol. they did make a 235 and 2.6gt/xp, however
@@ct1762No 250 hp from omc was sold back then. 235hp and 2.6 no v loopers were made in those day. Only looper motors were smaller inlines.
O....PLEASE DON'T FORGET AUSTRALIAN BORN KEN WARBY...THE FASTEST MAN ON WATER IN THE WORLD..FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS
40 years this year.
I’ve been 105 mph in a 650lb Allison Bass boat with a modified OMC 200 Looper.
Boat was more stable at that speed than at 90 mph. Allison aerodynamic’s are incredible. Yep
Amazing how flat it was sitting on the water. Now they are up on the trim-tabs and its really only the prop thats in the water. Not to mension the old open cock-pit.
That v8 is two stroke?
Yep
Damn straight skippy
Mercury has the BIG HP outboard now 600hp stock ..
Great stuff lots of fun to be had here
Wish I had some of those secrets those guys took with them to make those old evinrudes scream
Motores 2 tempos sao apaixonantes
W.F.O WOW THAT'S AMAZING!!! BE SAFE OUT THERE BROTHER WOW!!!
Looks like the Parker Strip.
Yes. Buckskin Fire on stand by with divers.
I see my teacher from ami Mike Phillips great teacher he had a v8 he said he took home in his lunchbox from the place he worked
I thought he said "struck a water valve". I was wondering WTH is a water valve doing, in the middle of the river?
He said struck a ‘waterfowl’….
Back when men were men. Today, it would require an EPA study and guarantee that 10% of the crew were LGBT.
WHEN I FIRST HEAARD THE NAME, L.G.B.T.,,, I THOUGHT IT WAS A NEW TOAST SANDWICH WITH BACON!!!
lol @ sonny cannon thats funny shit
And what the hell is THAT supposed to mean???
Its not FUNNY....its pathetic
Bahamians membuat live bait
Not one mention of Bob Wartinger. Weird.
+mark sharley , Weird because he holds over 100 World Outboard records. I've talked with Bob about that record. some interesting tweaks to that boat to get it going that fast. I spent LOTS of time at Turlock, Oroville and D lake in a dive/rescue boat
They showed an interview with him at about the 12:00 mark.
I was thinking the same thing, all the talk about the Garbrechts, but not one word about Bob. He deserved some credit too!!
Also, why is there no mention of Ed Karelson, the man that designed and built the hull? Give credit where it's due!
These fools could not make this record run without Bob!
isn't this boat hanging from the roof of race rock cafe in orlando fla ? thought I seen at when at mmi
David Pez , yes it did hang in the lobby, and the Miss Budweiser and Smokin Joes Unlimited Hydros were there too. However sadly the Race Rock Cafe in Orlando closed a few years ago.
I understood all the race equipment went either back to the original owners or was sold at auction.
@@gc4644 er du sikker på det ?
Two smoke Evinrude are fast but don’t last long. I spent 4 years boating with a guy and towing him back daily with his V8 Evinrudes.
2 more inches of pitch on the prop.
Can you imagine a 450r or a monster 600r on this sucker it would've blown their minds
They still hold the record, wonder why it hadn’t been taken yet…
Yeah it would blow their minds with how slow and heavy it is, it’d actually be sad bc they’d be disappointed that the future is slower
That thing sounds fuckin mean what did they do to it
Very impressive lots of up?
Narrator kinda sounds like Johnny Carson hehe..
Couldn't watch cuz my cheesy iPhone 4 doesn't like QuickTime. Ain't that the beach!? Anyways, recognized ur screenname from a certain powerboat org. Greetings from SETX! (Bowser)
Crazy this record has never been broken too many lame 4 strokes these days
Keijo Muuri 187 km/h isn’t fast lol this boat went 284.14 km/h so what’s your point
@@eternalthread7846 My bad, misspelled...
See whose payroll the water fowl was on? Bet money the paper trail will lead to the competition
BACK WHEN MEN WHERE MEN AND GOATS WERE SCARED
2 stroke for the win
Well, did they come back the next year and the 27 years hence and what were the results or did they just say the hell with it and say we'll never beat our old mark!
SEVERAL OTHER TEAMS HAVE ATTEMPTED TO BEAT THlS SPEED RECORD FOR OUTBOARDS...........AND ALL HAVE FAlLED TO THlS VERY DAY.
The world record, for a single engine outboard class, stands unbroken to this day. The engine was a Formula One, 3.5 liter V8 (not the production 3.6 liter, or later a 4.0 liter). It shared no common parts whatsoever with the public's production model and cost $37,000 for the powerhead alone, sans midsection and gearcase, even back in the mid 80's. My foggy recollection is that roughly 400 units were ever made, total, but I may be off on that number a smidge. It was Gary's sincere intention to do this again and break 200 mph (average). He sadly experienced a severe heart attack Feb. 6, 2005, while golfing with his physician, and passed away unexpectedly. There was ongoing discussion right up to the evening before he passed about hauling the record boat out of its museum in Orlando and making the attempt again. Almost 15 long years later, his record, with Bob Wartinger driving, lives on past his sad departure. God bless Gary Garbrecht, Les Cahoon, Joe McMillan and all the amazing talent of those golden days!
@@TheDefiantInfidel interesting thanks for finally shedding some light! i always was told this v8 had stock crank and rods (balanced, of course) with forged cyro pistons. i guess thats not correct!
For what little bits I can contribute and still recall accurately, you're very welcome, Sir. The forged pistons were made by Mahle (and I believe they were cryogenically treated after hand balancing) and were normal F1 components I believe. The forged steel rods were balanced (also F1 pieces) on an F1 crank. Most of the engine utilized "stock" parts that were modified to some degree, but they were stock only on the F1's. The somewhat modular production "looper" V4, V6 and V8 ("refrigerator") outboards of the day were completely different items and not suitable for the purpose for numerous reasons, bulk and high CG being among the biggest. They also had very high rod big end bearing speed and lacked enough port area availability to make enough power to do the task at hand. The record boat's gearcase had an overdriven ratio ( .9:1 I think? ) and the prop was forged. I can't recall who cut it, but I'm leaning towards Craig Dewald. Maybe Spinelli? That said, Grandpa Seebold was around Second Effort a bit in those days, too, training up a new propeller guy. Foggy, but very nice old memories.
@@TheDefiantInfidel Wow! Thats amazing. Jeeze you know these motor better than 99.9% of these keyboard engineers. Refreshing. I've worked and rebuilt OMC motors for about 20 years (have over 25 motors haha) and just really enjoy them. Always love hearing about them. Those stock rods are ugly but tough! gotta love em'.
its flash not quick time
yes steve jobs hated flash the you tube app may allow it
Being willing to run at those speeds on water can be attributed to one of two things: 1. Big balls. 2. Mental Health issues. I suppose it’s possible that a combination of the two could be blamed.
You forgot about the good drugs that were in supply until the American government started on guns for drugs!
Bro a Honda 2.0 litre can make 600hp bone stock with forced induction.
People act like technology isn't better now. These 2 strokes are great but what has been done to these to get them turning 10k rpm+. Do they come with forged cranks..curious
I love 2 strokes
Duck 🦆 sank the boat😮
It is funny because I have a 300 hp V8 1989 Evinrude outboard motor and it doesn' t go that fast due to the fact that it is on a 1988 28" Sleekcraft Enforcer.. I can say that I have had a lot of problems with the motor but it was worth fixing..
Jody Amundson , actually yours isnt as fast because they reconfigured that engine to run on Methanol. That means alot more compression and higher rpms, as well as a different crank and other internals. There was very little of that engine that actually stayed an oem evinrude..
It wasn't a production Evinrude or Johnson (btw, they were the same production powerhead except for the cowling paint job... both OMC). It was an extremely limited production F1 3.5 liter that was used. They shared no parts with the production 3.6 or later 4.0 liter V8's at all. Every F1 powerhead received 50 hours of porting and 40 hours hand assembly as the normal build routine. This one had slightly more radical porting than the F1 spec, but not much further. It could have used a lot more compression for the methanol, but was indeed higher than the race gasoline F1's. F1's all ran some rather archaic (but it was the 80's and tech was in infancy) fuel injection through eight individual, 2 barrel throttle bodies. The exhaust was standard F1... 8 into 4 into 2 into 1, exiting above water line in the lower midsection. The crankshaft, two piece rods, pistons and rings were inherently very special compared to production items, but also standard F1. The engine had to be very reliable as it is an air entrapment style hull... any engine, gearcase or prop failures at those speeds will kill power suddenly, drop the transom and cause the hull to take a huge gulp of air resulting in blow-over. Wartinger's life couldn't be further risked by an eggshell engine. Bob was a calm, thinking and talented man and surely damn brave to rise to the task.
Did he say “nitrous”?
Turbo it and mount DFI with and exhaust trapping valves to build boost, that could make a serious v8 2 stroke turbo, OMC v8 was nice small block 2 stroke
It ran no nitrous, just methanol.
Wauw. 200 mph with welded blades? No thanks.
ABOlsen69X why
I love how they put .556mph..jjjjj
CAN i buy one of those sumbitches for my 21 foot bass boat?
If your gonna run........run rude......
OMC/Evinrude/Johnson - OUT OF BUSINESS
thanks dems....
mikepodella but they built bad a$& engines......still have my omc
Hell of a lot of 50s jo/Evs running today.
But what about that poor duck that you KILLED !!!! :)
Tasted great!
I have a Johnson 300GT V8 for sale... Anyone interested?
How much time on the motor? Where can it be seen? It is a 3 liter loopcharged two stroke? How much are you asking? I am a friend of the McCunes and Jonny Sanders in Denver Colorado.
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Ps any spare parts?
@@thomashein2231 they made them starting in 85' as a 3.6 then later (i think 1989 to about 1997) a 4.0 liter.
Pure Evinrude power take them 4 strokes Mercury junk I had one I know 2 stroke. Yamaha junk. Give me my etec 2008 300 etec runs and runs I run tc w3 setting on computer a little heavy on oil purrs like kitten. If not really like 6 year warranty on zuki. Evinrude is close with 5 years JT 🇺🇸🐟🎣🌴🛥⛱😊😃🙏🏻🙏🏻
Mercury all day for racing
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OMC . !
Those speeds one little mistake or one little log in the water. It looks like a missile coming at you at 200 miles an hour. I don't think it's worth it. Death can easily come death can easily come.
"To the maximum, and beyond!"
For me beyond, having driven a Evinrude on a 15 foot boat until it broke, fixed it and broke it again...
I worked out a way to run an outboard on liquid hydrogen and oxygen, so it would run under water, and naturally exhaust pure water.
As I was trying to get funding, and had the interest of the great world champion Seebold hydro racing team, I kept hitting the obstacle of super rich oil men that wanted to kill all clean energy work. It seems the technology was found so important to "national security" it was secretly made top secret, and men came to lock me away.
I talked my way out of it, even tho my family was also trying to keep secrets and wanted me gone, yet 11 years later am still on the run from a gang called the "Kochtopus'.
Still - with H.O.P.E. power my designs could, safely, go well over 200mph, and beyond!
Let me get some of those pills bro
@@74nova36 OK, they are now in the Public Domain -
since I have been talking about my Hydrogen Oxygen Piston Engine in public for many years. Trying to gain funds to build a super outboard that would be super supercharged AND exhust pure water, since the high living '70s on the St. Croix Yacht CLub beach. Yet it seems it is just TOO BIG a pill to swallow, or maybe Charle Koch is the ultimate koch blocker.
@@gordonanderson3111 high living 70’s?
@@74nova36 Don't do drugs/pills
stay in school
get a clue
we have NO HOPE here at all.
@@gordonanderson3111 i think i had a stroke reading everything you wrote. just FYI.
hold on boys Mercury's new R series is coming, that 400r, once they figure out how to hack it, will be the bomb of all bombs. Just wait....
It will get broken this year... Cadillac is building a new V8 engine outboard with a transmission @ 557 HP thats an outboard The record is going down Evinrude!!!
not going to happen with a 4.stroke
How, exactly, would such a heavy, ponderous car engine attached to a midsection possibly be able to match the power to weight ration of an explosive 2 stroke? I'll answer that: NEVER. The boat wouldn't be light enough, and the motor wouldn't rev like a 2 stroke. RPM is essential to getting a boat like a hydro up to these speeds. That's what makes the merc 2.4 bridgeport and 2.5 promax so fast on top. The combo of light weight, extremely high revs and high output is a surefire recipe for speed... something a 4 stroke can't match, even IF it produced more power.
+Randy Robinson no it wont evinrude for life! it still hasnt 1 year later
GM always build bugs into their product and then after they sell for a few years they finally figure it out... maybe
Randy Robinson a new company, Seven Marine has a new outboard based on a tuned Corvette engine. They partnered with Volvo Penta
Mercury is faster!
how can a outboard be fast? you meen its the strongest
these things are such a piece of shit 😆 2 V4s stacked on top of each other
Great way to not prove a pointless point.
Actually the V-8 was cut in half for the 4s. There was also a 6 based on the design
This ain’t no big deal. In the 80’s I had a Vangaurd Banshee with a Merk 150 power tower that did 180 miles an hour - nothin done to motor but headers , cam and a 5 blade racing prop!
Impossible!
Ain't no cam in a 2stroke merc tower of power, haha