Tata Tiago has four Star rating but NCAP result says its body shell unstable in their report itself..! But nobody reads NCAP report and seeing 4 star assume that its body is stable after crash..! So logically 3 Star unstable and 4 star unstable is same..With some addition safety features
Exceptional take. I myself being a CAE Crash Analysis Engineer agree to every single thing discussed in this podcast. I can easily see the depth of knowledge and research that has went into making this. I've been screaming on top of my lungs within my friends and family circle on how "Crash Safety" is an extremely specific lab test and and it cannot be taken on face value on real world conditions and have went into many chat group wars and these bullys are predominatly Tata owners. They think they have bought a Panther and no impact can affect them and they can drive at 150kmph safely. This false sense of safety is even more dangerous than no safety at all. Point of Impact during a crash event being 10mm to the left/right, top/bottom (from standard) or 5 kmph above tested speeds and the rating is totally invalid. The car 'might' be safe but its not tested for that scenario, so nobody knows basically. Impact Barriers are another box of worms which haven't been opened yet. Results can vary for different type of barriers. But in real world the barrier equivalent we have from a humble 2 wheeler to an 18 wheeler (imagine the mammoth load transfer to chassis) and effectively infinite things which can hit your car in any speed, any angle or in any height and obviously they all cannot be tested. Crash tests are an extremely non-linear process and it just cannot be simply defined with a star rating. To sum up just buy a car which you like in your budget and be done with it. If at all your primary concern is safety i would suggest to buy a car with good brakes and be a responsible driver. Still if you are paranoid just take a bus or train man
Romba correct ah soniga sir. I had mindset of Maruti is very bad in build quality & Tata is the best. That's why,one of reason we brought Tata altroz. I'm very disappointed with the car, and with Tata dealership and after sale service. Engine noise is very noticeable. We didn't even thinking of buying an Maruti car. Bcz our mindset was tunned Maruti is good at only milage. Thanks for this useful content. My own experience says, never buy a Tata car ever.
1.Absolutely nailed the true background of the safety rating. 2. Nothing seems to be sensored behind the scenes, true content . 3. Some highlights A. Tata safari / harrier topic B. Hyundai, Kia , maruti C. Toyota fortunater vs Fiesta experience D. Land rover testing topic etc ... 4. Finally Motowagon "All about cars" training center. Educating peoples. 5." Drive responsibly " slogan perfectly fits . GREAT JOB 👍 🎉
I know MW channel primarily focuses on people of Tamilnadu. This is a good observation and these questions has been running on my mind as well. For Non-Tamilians, this video could be given English subtitles so they would benefit out of it. As usual, Thumbs up for the good work.
Perfect to the point as usual. What you said about fortuner example is really true. Irony is people consider ground clearance as a factor for buying SUV(monocoque) but they won't get off the road for giving space to other guy.
Finally, someone gives a clear explanation about NCAP ratings. Nowadays, some of them are driving wreklessly by assuming themselves they are in very good safety rated cars. So, Drive Responsibly (each car is engineered and built for its own purpose).
Very useful content While we talk to 5 star rating, majority of the county is riding two wheelers. What crash rating do we have there 😂 Driving responsibly is the key.
I was expecting this video and Im glad its here finally. Its very clear that ncap has a bias towards tata and mahindra. Also they're clearly against maruti and hyundai/kia. Hopefully our bharat ncap brings a uniform system
Bro this is why we follow you, you have touched a subject which no other automotive channel will discuss in detail like u did. I feel it is an unbiased discussion you have done once again
This is such an excellent discussion. This is not just another youtube channel which runs for monetary reasons. Kudos to you guys for sharing in depth details and analysis which could be an eye opener for many people. Keep rocking & Thank you MW team
Need not worry about the language or slang. You are not a language teacher. The content is more important in this channel. Kumari Tamil slang is fine. This is a very good video. Many other auto channels have criticised Global NCAP long back itself. What you said about harrier is exactly true. TATA got advantage from this. My neighbour bought a harrier one year ago and told me he choose it due to 5 star rating. I was aware of these ratings... I bought Compass then...
First first motowagon subscribe pandrathuku main reason "High beam theva patta matum use panuga" indha term kaga than... enaku eye la issues eruku naa drive pandrapo high beam pota i cant even see a thing on road .... sometimes naan high beam potu vandha vehicle ah block pani erangi poi low beam poda solirken ..... enaku yarmelaiu rage varala evalo ignorant ah erukangale ellarum nu oru aadhangam naa evalo car reviewers pathurken indha high beam kaga pesina silar la neega oruthavanga... Thank you for this❤
Bro I am from Bangalore…. I like your pronunciation. Your Tamil has a beautiful touch of innocence… I love it. Chuck ppl those throws negative criticism ❤
Thanks for this video because we should be aware of how manufacturers are cheating customer by global ncap, as a buyer we should be aware of dynamics , braking . Previously we had Euro ncap where cars are not biased. We are now only looking at build quality and kerb weight nowadays.
i have Not seen a single Auto Journalist covered this Topic till now. The only forum i have seen this is on TeamBHP....Well done team.....The amount of info comveyed here will surely change a lot of people perception about safety ❤!!!😊
Really Excellent to be open in your discussion on Ncap.. My experience with Kia Carens on the way to Ooty.. When I was traveling in the up hill, a car which was coming down lost the control and hit directly on the vehicle, which was traveling before my vehicle at a speed of more than 70 kms.. கண் இமைக்கும் நேரத்தில்.. எனக்கு முன் சென்ற வண்டி, Jumped and hit on my Front and demaged Radiator, Front Bar and sensor wire..( I was maintaining a distance on more than 5 feet ) we inside the car really felt nothing, ( Absolutely No Impact) .. Moment we run to the other vehicles to save the people.. only after few minutes we realised our damage.. The day I realised, Kia Carens is really a very good car, provided No impact on the Passengers..
Great job Asir Sir & Motowagon team!! Exactly the same content which i wanted to ask you before.. Fortunately, you made a podcast on the same topic.. Thanx a lot to you & your team for making this wonderful video.. Being a Maruti Suzuki's Grand Vitara owner, i also had lot of doubts & came across lot of negative feedbacks about maruti suzuki's NCAP rating.. Now, you clearly clarified how the NCAP system works & the facts behind the rating. As you well said (me too have the same opinion) that safety starts from our responsible driving. Then only our car's safety rating also will support us, otherwise there is no use of it.. Very deep research on NCAP rating. It clearly shows that how much efforts & time you are spending before making any videos.. Hats off to you & your team for the great work!! And you wanted to mention how much impact you have created on responsible driving.. Definitely a very big impact!! Because, earlier am the only guy wearing seat belt while driving & haven't take much efforts to make the others to follow the same. But, nowadays while am wearing seat belt before started driving, i suddenly remember your words in every video that "kooda irukuravangalayum seat belt poda encourage pannuga". So, slowly i started insisting my dad also to wear seat belt. Initially he ignored. But, finally the mission accomplished. Now, slowly am turning my attention towards the rear seat passengers also to wear seat belts. Hopefully that too will be achieved soon.. My only time pass during my leisure time is scrolling videos in all social medias.. However, till now i haven't write any reviews for any of the videos.. But, finally you only made me to write reviews and am very happy to write my very first review for this excellent content video. Keep up the good work and maintain your honesty in all upcoming videos too as you are doing now. Because, we all simply believing your words.. Best wishes from one of your "NERMAIYANA MOTO FAM"!! 😂😂
The good thing you done in this edpisode is, educated about that the rating which was given by Global NCAP is only upto some mid speeds and not for deadly speeds. This will be an eye opening moments for those who thinks they are travelling inside the unbreakable castle. Thanks brothers for done this with boldness 🙏
Great podcast Team 👏 ❤ One more point with crash test - when on highway, if we crash in a truck or SUV, we will hit with braking (in most cases) and because of it, there will be nosedive.. so the frontal crash, even if it is same scenario as lab conditions, braking nosedive will cause it to go under big vehicles.. Not sure why this is not considered.. Ideally, Frontal crash test should be with braking and nosedive.. Just my opinion.. correct me if wrong..
This channel is a class apart really❤. You people provide really rich content. More than that, you need some courage to bring out these kinds of contents in spite of knowing you might be getting bashing for bringing this up. You are really bringing up some really important contents and attempting to instill some real sense in people. I never regret spending an hour on this podcast. It's truly valuable. And Asir Anna, don't get bogged down by some scumbags criticizing your accents and stuff. Your accent is great, the choice of English words is great. Keep doing what you're doing. You're in some way influencing society and the road users in general not just car users. "Seatbelts use pannunga, road rage la indulge aagathinga. Yaarachu vantha kooda neenga cool aa poidunga" has had a lasting impression in me. Yes you're on the right track of achieving your product vision. In my 2 years of watching your videos, you have never deviated from it. Keep rocking❤
Asir sir and team... this is excellent content..in Malayalam talking cars had done a similar content 1 year ago...I wish more people get to see this ...kudos to you...
Asir bro Fortuner vangurathey naan romba dominating aana aalu nu kaambikka dhan, maximum fortuner ah politicians, high profile govt officials & high profile business mans dhan vachiruppaanga, ippdi oru vandiyavachikittu dominance kaamikalanaadhan namba oorla avana aacharyamaa paakanum neenga sonna scenario yella idathulayum nadakarathu dhan, oru car thoorama irundhu vandha kooda normal 100cc bike kaaran solw pannee paarthu dhan road cross pannuvaan, adhey madhri oru car ooturavan heavy vehicles vandha konjam yosichi dhan cross pannuvaan, Problem yennanaa adhigama kaasu vachirukkavan purpose ku mattum car vanguradhe kidaiyadhu, status & dominating symbol ah dhan car vanguraanga. Idhula neenga sollra engineering terms, car capability & features lam kandippa avan mandaila yearadhu, innam oru sila per nammala threaten pannuvaanga aadikka kooda varuvaanga, so Aasir bro neenga kandippa unga safety ah consider panee neenga road la advise pandradha reconsider panunga.
Happened to go through the podcast only now. Valid points raised well by the team. Thoughtful analysis and brings out the fallacies around the NCAP system , keep going guys 🎉
Wondering how a 1 hour podcast got posted just 9 mins ago been seen by a few Nermayana Motofams and commented 7 mins ago!!! Wondering are they Nermayana Motofams!!😃
I was also thinking about this point! Nice that you brought up this matter. Ithu etho foreign companies Indian market-kulla vara mudiyaathathaala intha maathri NGO-nu onnu aarambichchi market interruption panna try panra maathri irukku. Somehow our manufacturers too must wake up and start to prove their meticulosity in their product quality, they are taking Indian buyers for granted. feedback on the video: Pls Podcast panra style panreenga, all 3 have individual mics, pasanga pesurathu clear-avey illa. Also, some lights podunga, oru maathri naan kaathuvarama okkanthukitu irukka maathri irukku like kasakasanu irukkunu enakku neenga appadi okkanthukittu irukkrathu..
One of the best discussions! the whole hour has gone productively, keep continues to create awareness, Indeed I was holding the same doubts about why the new Seltos is not yet tested, though it has ADAS and some of the other vehicles too!! The way the media establish content in people's minds turns the results either way. Awesome, Job!
Kudos to Asir Bro for wonderful content. About wearing seat belts and encourage others to do so made me follow your channel. Keep up your good work.🎉🎉🎉
It is great content and very informative. Motowagon is an institute, and we are always happy students and learning every day. I'm happy to be part of Motowagon.
Really appreciate the content. Nobody will talk about this the way you guys have. This video has kept me engaged even though the video is of 60+mins. Kudos to your team and may you keep giving us more interesting content week on week.
It's a most important topic to cover and make the people aware about the safely and It's politics in our country. I am very happy and thankfull to our MotoWagon team.
You are 100% right on the perception created among the people.... I am one such example... People while doing test drive should try and compare all brands first hand on various things to understand how different or same the vehicles are.... I personally feel we should not create a shortlist of vehicles before doing a test drive. Perform a test drive and then probably create a shortlist... It is always better to go to the market with a neutral head and then come to conclusions ourselves... Someone's dislike maybe other person's like and we have a wide range of options.... Once we list few then we should try and understand the pros and cons of the vehicles through maybe services you provide to help people with decisions... Because you guys will have a lot of practical use case knowledge which we might not have at that moment...
Tata zest was 7 L when introduced and tested. Got 4 star. Car quality improved after this testing. Upto certain period maruti product Swift, baleno failed. Later improved.same in the case of hyundai. Now 6 air bags in basic model.
Wonderful topic to create awareness. Whatever it is self responsibility is important. I got your thought but one question you said we can't compare wagonr or Swift with 30L car agreed but both Tiago and WagonR/Swift are almost same price when Tiago is coming with good build quality then why Wagonr can't? This answers the rating
When wagonr comes with better space,comfort,practicality,engineering, best engine in segment , service, resale value , efficiency , hassle free experience it can't cope up with just safety of Tata eventhough Tata is improving now
Amazing video. Opened my eyes about NCAP. But my understanding and conclusion is that GNCAP ratings are reliable but their hypocracy and selection of car/model is questionable. Also they are not comparing apples to apples rather Swift with Slavia or Taigun.
Japanese motors-india motors Kula fight varanum athaan Global ncap oda velai. American cars matum thaan sale aganum vera yevan cars yum sales agakudathu.
Very good eye opening topic discussed. The information's you are sharing in the podcasts are very much useful for the enthusiast's... And you spoke about your pronunciation and lingual.. Im one of the fan of your pronunciation and your articulation.. So don't consider the negative comments and keep rocking...
Hello MW, thanks for your effort. ungaloda podcast lam keturuken yellam nalla iruku.. intha podcast la sela influencers safety check pannuren nu athoda purpose ah vae tappa solluranga nu sonnenga but atha naraya per namburanga, so yennoda chinna suggestion konjam intha mathuri misguide information ah explain pannura mathuri oru series potengana nalla irukum.
Very very important video sir . Excellent i knew this but comments la na sona none agrees. But thanks ivlo periya geniune UA-camr ana neega sona atleast people will realise that now. Cant thank you enough for this content .
Firstly, the safety norms should begin from structural integrity and the maximum rating for a car safety should be given to this aspect. Secondly, we see today that when a new model is introduced, the manufacturer doesn't anounce their newly introduced model's safety rating. Instead, they simply say, "the model is yet to be tested for safety rating"! Such a casual approach by the manufacturers shows their indifference to the passengers' safety. So, the Central Govt should make it a mandate and also insist that all the car manufacturers should first get their safety rating approval & star rating for every new model introduced in the market. If a new model is not subjected to safety rating test by the manufacturer, the govt should apply a ban on the release of such a model. Then only the car manufacturers will be forced to have their commitment to declaring their safety rating for each of their new models before marketing it.
Your content & most of the points are good. But, there is a point to consider, manufacturers can voluntarily send their products for crash test rating which Tata & Mahindra are doing. In this point also, Tata has not sent their Harrier & Safari for testing. The cost of testing is either borne by Manufacturers or GNCAP sponsor. It is easier to purchase a lower cost car of 5L and test to bring awareness to masses than to use a 20L car. The point is awareness. Why is the question not asked to Maruti to voluntarily send their car to test like Tata ? Why is Maruti or Hyundai not taking such actions. They have enough money to sponsor but if they are not confident of their product, they are not volunteering. Kia Seltos abroad scored better rating than Made in India model. Why this question is not asked to manufacturer on making low quality products for us ? Manufacturer if confident of their product, they can file legal case, but they are not doing means they know their product is poor. You are targeting a someone who is trying to bring change to our market. If not for them, maruti & Hyundai kia will continue killing us with low quality product. Example if Tata is sending Punch, why Maruti has not sent Fronx ? Please ask Maruti why they don't have money to send it being 50% market share. Also, another point these lab tests are taken as a benchmark and is same for all. A car at 64kmph scoring 5 star may drop to 2star at 120kmph, then what about a car scoring 0 star at 64kmph, what happens if you drive this at 120. I owned Maruti car, problem is these cars are lightweight and peppy to drive & allow people to go fast but unsafe. But, Tata Punch i took test drive feels safe but not as peppy like a maruti. I have bad experiences with crash in Maruti but Mahindra has kept me safe inside the car in real life road case. Emphasis should be on manufacturer to mandatory test their products before launch. Without testing car launch should not be approved by govt. Why this is not being told. Also, only base variants must be tested as that is min. safety guarantee for end consumer, else manufacturer will sell base variant without any safety features using higher rating of top variant.
Thanks for your comment. I mentioned the same in my comment 2 days back. I am a regular follower of this channel and in this particular video, they are encouraging people not to believe safety ratings or safety parameters and playing in their lives.
Tata Harrier test after this video and came 5 star not as claimed by you. 2. They dont have fund, so they only do most selling cars not new costly and less selling car like Alcazar, unless the car is donated by manufacturer. As for maruti, they already tested brezza but for new variant maruti has to send car, i think they need 4 cars + shipping charges. Gncap is blessing even yesterday 5 youngsters died in tiruttani ertiga accident n few week back another accudent involving maruti dzire 4 college student died in car accident in chenna omr new highway
MW team GNCAP pathi innaikku dhaan oru thelivu vandhirukku yenna dhan brezza, scross lam nalla rating vanguna car ah irundhaalum Suzuki brand peru keatalae tin ka dabba nu dhan yeanakku thonum, safety high ah irukka car pathi peasunaalum intha scross, brezza lam neyabagamea varadhu. But GNCAP original skin peeled👏👏👏👍👍👍
Superb video Motowagan Team. Kia seltos and Hyundai creta real test results could be different. Slang and diversions are always welcome and good for the show.Keep it.😊
Asir Anna I saw a old video of motowagon, in that you have said that we are planning to buy and resale cars at reasonable price.Just now I remember when you say the purpose of motowagon
எனக்கு சில சந்தேகங்கள் 1. நிறுவனங்கள் என் base varient ல் safty features கொடுப்பதில்லை. 2.maruti கிட்ட நல்ல வண்டிகள் இருக்கிறது என்றால் என் அவர்கள் USP ஆக safty ஐ marketing செய்வது இல்லை. 3. Global Ncap சரி இல்லை என்றால் வேறு நல்ல நிறுவனத்தில் வண்டியை கொடுத்து டெஸ்ட் செய்து தங்களின் தரத்தை உறுதி செய்யலாம். 4.நீங்கள் maruti யை சிறப்பான வண்டி என்று சொல்ல வேண்டும் என்றால் கூட அதன் பிளாஸ்டிக் பாகங்கள் இன்னும் தரமாக இல்லை. 5. நம் நாட்டில் டெஸ்டிங் கொண்டுவந்தால் அது யாரோ ஒரு பெரு முதலாளி யிடம் தான் செல்லும் அப்பொழுது அரசே அவர்களுக்காக வேலை செய்யும்.
Video ah neenga apo purenjikala adhu dhan Idhuku answer🥲 nenga keta ela qus kum ans video la yae iruku irundhalum again solran kelunga For first namba county la base variant la endha brand uhm ela safety features uhm kudukuradhu ila ipo dhan konjam konjam ah Kondu vantu irukanga base variant ah anupuna rating kammiaga chance iruku 2. Every one has own statergy adhu avangaloda wish Maruthi oda basic usp kamiana price la car kudukanum with good engine and milage 3. Latin ncap idha vida strict ah irukum global la 5star vanguna cars hae anga pona 3dhan vangum 4. Namba country la onu fix paniketinga Maruthi nah matamana quality nu 🤦🏻 safety ula use panra plastic la ila use panra frame and structure la dhan iruku 5. Apdiyelam onum agadhu
@@vijaysmith4885 அடங்கப்ப உள்ள இருக்க பிளாஸ்டிக் யே quality ahh குடுகாதவங்க🤔 structural quality எப்புடி குடுபங்க😂😂 Ncap standards கேக்கல global ncap la partiality இருக்கு என்று சொன்னார்கள் அல்லவா அப்படி இங்கு டெஸ்ட் செய்து result திருப்தி இல்லை என்றால் வேறு இடத்தில் டெஸ்ட் செய்து quality ஐ நிருபிக்கலாமே. Basic வண்டியில் manual dimming mirror, back wiper, fog light இதை கூட கொடுக்க முடியாத தயாரிப்பு நிறுவனங்கள் பாதுகாப்பை மட்டும் தருவார்கள் என்பது என்ன நிச்சயம். 5-6 ஆயிரம் வரும் பொருட்களை தர மறுத்து cost cutting செய்பவர்கள் எப்படி structural rigidity காக செலவு செய்வார்கள்.
Global NCAP gets crashed by Motowagon team in this podcast...
This is an awesome, eye-opening episode 👏 👌
Well said
Very true😂
Tata Tiago has four Star rating but NCAP result says its body shell unstable in their report itself..!
But nobody reads NCAP report and seeing 4 star assume that its body is stable after crash..!
So logically 3 Star unstable and 4 star unstable is same..With some addition safety features
Exceptional take. I myself being a CAE Crash Analysis Engineer agree to every single thing discussed in this podcast. I can easily see the depth of knowledge and research that has went into making this.
I've been screaming on top of my lungs within my friends and family circle on how "Crash Safety" is an extremely specific lab test and and it cannot be taken on face value on real world conditions and have went into many chat group wars and these bullys are predominatly Tata owners.
They think they have bought a Panther and no impact can affect them and they can drive at 150kmph safely. This false sense of safety is even more dangerous than no safety at all.
Point of Impact during a crash event being 10mm to the left/right, top/bottom (from standard) or 5 kmph above tested speeds and the rating is totally invalid.
The car 'might' be safe but its not tested for that scenario, so nobody knows basically. Impact Barriers are another box of worms which haven't been opened yet. Results can vary for different type of barriers. But in real world the barrier equivalent we have from a humble 2 wheeler to an 18 wheeler (imagine the mammoth load transfer to chassis) and effectively infinite things which can hit your car in any speed, any angle or in any height and obviously they all cannot be tested. Crash tests are an extremely non-linear process and it just cannot be simply defined with a star rating. To sum up just buy a car which you like in your budget and be done with it. If at all your primary concern is safety i would suggest to buy a car with good brakes and be a responsible driver. Still if you are paranoid just take a bus or train man
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Romba correct ah soniga sir. I had mindset of Maruti is very bad in build quality & Tata is the best. That's why,one of reason we brought Tata altroz. I'm very disappointed with the car, and with Tata dealership and after sale service. Engine noise is very noticeable. We didn't even thinking of buying an Maruti car. Bcz our mindset was tunned Maruti is good at only milage. Thanks for this useful content. My own experience says, never buy a Tata car ever.
Altroz Petrol?
exactly not many owners like you were agreeing, its very good that you were honest
1.Absolutely nailed the true background of the safety rating.
2. Nothing seems to be sensored behind the scenes, true content .
3. Some highlights
A. Tata safari / harrier topic
B. Hyundai, Kia , maruti
C. Toyota fortunater vs Fiesta experience
D. Land rover testing topic etc ...
4. Finally Motowagon "All about cars" training center. Educating peoples.
5." Drive responsibly " slogan perfectly fits .
GREAT JOB 👍 🎉
It's better our govt arrange a testing agency and make it mandatory for all the cars.
😂😂😂 எது நம்ம govt ahh சோப்பு டப்பவுகு கூட 5 ஸ்டார் குடுப்பாங்க.
😂😂😂 kandipa ..😂😂😂swift 5 star sonnalum solluvanga
Adani will start a car company
It will soon be corrupt ya
RTO office la licence kudukra madhiri daan istathukku kudupanunga.. amount kudukalaena 0 rating kudupanunga..
This video is definitely an eye opener for me. Though the length of the video is for an hour, I never felt bored at any point. Thanks to you all.
I know MW channel primarily focuses on people of Tamilnadu. This is a good observation and these questions has been running on my mind as well.
For Non-Tamilians, this video could be given English subtitles so they would benefit out of it.
As usual, Thumbs up for the good work.
Perfect to the point as usual. What you said about fortuner example is really true. Irony is people consider ground clearance as a factor for buying SUV(monocoque) but they won't get off the road for giving space to other guy.
73வது Episode : 73வது Minutes தான் Content close பண்ணனுமா 😅
By நேர்மையான Motofam😊
Anna idhu super aana content. Neenga matum thaan idha correct ah pesirukeenga. Great job na, Thanks to Motowagon team.😊
Finally, someone gives a clear explanation about NCAP ratings. Nowadays, some of them are driving wreklessly by assuming themselves they are in very good safety rated cars. So, Drive Responsibly (each car is engineered and built for its own purpose).
1000000% correct
Congrats Team. Great Podcast. You guys Nailed it. Hope alteast now the 5 star rating brand fan boys may understand the reality😊
Exactly
excellent podcast, sir. you really nailed the point..
Yes
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Very useful content
While we talk to 5 star rating, majority of the county is riding two wheelers. What crash rating do we have there 😂
Driving responsibly is the key.
last podcast comment ah paathu , #driveresponsibly tagline ah add pannirkinga🔥🔥🔥🔥
I was expecting this video and Im glad its here finally. Its very clear that ncap has a bias towards tata and mahindra. Also they're clearly against maruti and hyundai/kia. Hopefully our bharat ncap brings a uniform system
Bro this is why we follow you, you have touched a subject which no other automotive channel will discuss in detail like u did. I feel it is an unbiased discussion you have done once again
Hats off to MotoWagon for consistently offering high-quality content! 👏
This is such an excellent discussion. This is not just another youtube channel which runs for monetary reasons. Kudos to you guys for sharing in depth details and analysis which could be an eye opener for many people. Keep rocking & Thank you MW team
Need not worry about the language or slang. You are not a language teacher. The content is more important in this channel. Kumari Tamil slang is fine. This is a very good video. Many other auto channels have criticised Global NCAP long back itself. What you said about harrier is exactly true. TATA got advantage from this. My neighbour bought a harrier one year ago and told me he choose it due to 5 star rating. I was aware of these ratings... I bought Compass then...
Good study.. this must be published with references in international magazines to reach global consumers to know the truth of NCAP.
Rear seat belt engagement by my family.. It's an influence By MOTOWAGON..
A NERMAI AANA MOTOFAM
First first motowagon subscribe pandrathuku main reason "High beam theva patta matum use panuga" indha term kaga than... enaku eye la issues eruku naa drive pandrapo high beam pota i cant even see a thing on road .... sometimes naan high beam potu vandha vehicle ah block pani erangi poi low beam poda solirken ..... enaku yarmelaiu rage varala evalo ignorant ah erukangale ellarum nu oru aadhangam naa evalo car reviewers pathurken indha high beam kaga pesina silar la neega oruthavanga...
Thank you for this❤
Bro I am from Bangalore…. I like your pronunciation. Your Tamil has a beautiful touch of innocence… I love it. Chuck ppl those throws negative criticism ❤
Thanks for this video because we should be aware of how manufacturers are cheating customer by global ncap, as a buyer we should be aware of dynamics , braking . Previously we had Euro ncap where cars are not biased. We are now only looking at build quality and kerb weight nowadays.
i have Not seen a single Auto Journalist covered this Topic till now. The only forum i have seen this is on TeamBHP....Well done team.....The amount of info comveyed here will surely change a lot of people perception about safety ❤!!!😊
This was covered by Talking Cars a year back.
ua-cam.com/video/gm_SwWegHz8/v-deo.html
I guess the old setup was better than now. Maybe I feel that way. but still, it's just a minor distraction. The content is great!
Really Excellent to be open in your discussion on Ncap..
My experience with Kia Carens on the way to Ooty..
When I was traveling in the up hill, a car which was coming down lost the control and hit directly on the vehicle, which was traveling before my vehicle at a speed of more than 70 kms.. கண் இமைக்கும் நேரத்தில்.. எனக்கு முன் சென்ற வண்டி, Jumped and hit on my Front and demaged Radiator, Front Bar and sensor wire..( I was maintaining a distance on more than 5 feet ) we inside the car really felt nothing, ( Absolutely No Impact) ..
Moment we run to the other vehicles to save the people.. only after few minutes we realised our damage..
The day I realised, Kia Carens is really a very good car, provided No impact on the Passengers..
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eppavum pola thevayana ,thelivana padhivu... about this Ncap marketing -yarum ivlo theliva puriya vaika mudiyadhu..
Great work MW ❤👍
Great job Asir Sir & Motowagon team!!
Exactly the same content which i wanted to ask you before..
Fortunately, you made a podcast on the same topic..
Thanx a lot to you & your team for making this wonderful video..
Being a Maruti Suzuki's Grand Vitara owner, i also had lot of doubts & came across lot of negative feedbacks about maruti suzuki's NCAP rating..
Now, you clearly clarified how the NCAP system works & the facts behind the rating.
As you well said (me too have the same opinion) that safety starts from our responsible driving. Then only our car's safety rating also will support us, otherwise there is no use of it..
Very deep research on NCAP rating. It clearly shows that how much efforts & time you are spending before making any videos..
Hats off to you & your team for the great work!!
And you wanted to mention how much impact you have created on responsible driving..
Definitely a very big impact!!
Because, earlier am the only guy wearing seat belt while driving & haven't take much efforts to make the others to follow the same.
But, nowadays while am wearing seat belt before started driving, i suddenly remember your words in every video that "kooda irukuravangalayum seat belt poda encourage pannuga". So, slowly i started insisting my dad also to wear seat belt. Initially he ignored. But, finally the mission accomplished.
Now, slowly am turning my attention towards the rear seat passengers also to wear seat belts. Hopefully that too will be achieved soon..
My only time pass during my leisure time is scrolling videos in all social medias..
However, till now i haven't write any reviews for any of the videos..
But, finally you only made me to write reviews and am very happy to write my very first review for this excellent content video.
Keep up the good work and maintain your honesty in all upcoming videos too as you are doing now. Because, we all simply believing your words..
Best wishes from one of your "NERMAIYANA MOTO FAM"!!
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The good thing you done in this edpisode is, educated about that the rating which was given by Global NCAP is only upto some mid speeds and not for deadly speeds. This will be an eye opening moments for those who thinks they are travelling inside the unbreakable castle. Thanks brothers for done this with boldness 🙏
Great podcast Team 👏 ❤
One more point with crash test - when on highway, if we crash in a truck or SUV, we will hit with braking (in most cases) and because of it, there will be nosedive.. so the frontal crash, even if it is same scenario as lab conditions, braking nosedive will cause it to go under big vehicles.. Not sure why this is not considered..
Ideally, Frontal crash test should be with braking and nosedive..
Just my opinion.. correct me if wrong..
Very valid point, Another reason why Crash tests to be considered as pinch of salt
Yes definitely! A seat belt is our life savior.
That last segment point is perfect.
Very valuable conversation
This channel is a class apart really❤. You people provide really rich content. More than that, you need some courage to bring out these kinds of contents in spite of knowing you might be getting bashing for bringing this up. You are really bringing up some really important contents and attempting to instill some real sense in people. I never regret spending an hour on this podcast. It's truly valuable.
And Asir Anna, don't get bogged down by some scumbags criticizing your accents and stuff. Your accent is great, the choice of English words is great. Keep doing what you're doing. You're in some way influencing society and the road users in general not just car users.
"Seatbelts use pannunga, road rage la indulge aagathinga. Yaarachu vantha kooda neenga cool aa poidunga" has had a lasting impression in me.
Yes you're on the right track of achieving your product vision. In my 2 years of watching your videos, you have never deviated from it. Keep rocking❤
உங்க seltbelt suggestion ரொம்ப சூப்பர்.....
Top quality content🤝👌..
This will create even more awarness on global ncap that impacts buying cars.
Asir sir and team... this is excellent content..in Malayalam talking cars had done a similar content 1 year ago...I wish more people get to see this ...kudos to you...
Quality content ❤ Good discussion ❤
Sad for seeing very minimal views count after 3 days 🙃
Asir bro Fortuner vangurathey naan romba dominating aana aalu nu kaambikka dhan, maximum fortuner ah politicians, high profile govt officials & high profile business mans dhan vachiruppaanga, ippdi oru vandiyavachikittu dominance kaamikalanaadhan namba oorla avana aacharyamaa paakanum neenga sonna scenario yella idathulayum nadakarathu dhan, oru car thoorama irundhu vandha kooda normal 100cc bike kaaran solw pannee paarthu dhan road cross pannuvaan, adhey madhri oru car ooturavan heavy vehicles vandha konjam yosichi dhan cross pannuvaan,
Problem yennanaa adhigama kaasu vachirukkavan purpose ku mattum car vanguradhe kidaiyadhu, status & dominating symbol ah dhan car vanguraanga.
Idhula neenga sollra engineering terms, car capability & features lam kandippa avan mandaila yearadhu, innam oru sila per nammala threaten pannuvaanga aadikka kooda varuvaanga, so Aasir bro neenga kandippa unga safety ah consider panee neenga road la advise pandradha reconsider panunga.
Happened to go through the podcast only now. Valid points raised well by the team. Thoughtful analysis and brings out the fallacies around the NCAP system , keep going guys 🎉
Wondering how a 1 hour podcast got posted just 9 mins ago been seen by a few Nermayana Motofams and commented 7 mins ago!!!
Wondering are they Nermayana Motofams!!😃
I was also thinking about this point! Nice that you brought up this matter. Ithu etho foreign companies Indian market-kulla vara mudiyaathathaala intha maathri NGO-nu onnu aarambichchi market interruption panna try panra maathri irukku. Somehow our manufacturers too must wake up and start to prove their meticulosity in their product quality, they are taking Indian buyers for granted.
feedback on the video:
Pls Podcast panra style panreenga, all 3 have individual mics, pasanga pesurathu clear-avey illa. Also, some lights podunga, oru maathri naan kaathuvarama okkanthukitu irukka maathri irukku like kasakasanu irukkunu enakku neenga appadi okkanthukittu irukkrathu..
One of the best discussions! the whole hour has gone productively, keep continues to create awareness, Indeed I was holding the same doubts about why the new Seltos is not yet tested, though it has ADAS and some of the other vehicles too!! The way the media establish content in people's minds turns the results either way. Awesome, Job!
Gold content team - #Nermaiyana_MotoFam approved
i haven't watched this yet as I'm still in work, but i know u guys have nailed it and exposed a lot by just seeing the duration of this !!!😂
மற்ற கார்களை ஒப்பிடும்போது.. சுசிகி அவங்க செல்வதை விட அதிகமான மைலேஜ் கிடைக்கிறது.. 70 to 80kmph speed la.
Excellent video. Government should take necessary steps to stop GNCAP scam.
57:47 I always find Danny picks up the right point and keeps u reminding about the points i missed. Don't know why he got "thiittu"
One of the best Podcast. Every car buyer should watch it. 👍👍👍
Kudos to Asir Bro for wonderful content. About wearing seat belts and encourage others to do so made me follow your channel. Keep up your good work.🎉🎉🎉
Depression adhiga irudha unga video patha podhum anna ella forgot aghirum...💯⚡
Worth to watch it..👍🏻👍🏻and also the final fiesta vs fortuner story made me to think🤙🤙..thank you for the content guysss❤
It is great content and very informative. Motowagon is an institute, and we are always happy students and learning every day. I'm happy to be part of Motowagon.
நேர்மையானா moto fan ஆக,❤❤❤👌👌👌👌 superb padcost 👍👍👍
Really appreciate the content. Nobody will talk about this the way you guys have. This video has kept me engaged even though the video is of 60+mins. Kudos to your team and may you keep giving us more interesting content week on week.
Wow wow… THE BEST EPISODE so far. Got so much insights
More than 1 hour video but still entertaining and informative....
I am following you almost 6 months but subscribed after this podcast, best awareness. Hats off to you brother.
It's a most important topic to cover and make the people aware about the safely and It's politics in our country. I am very happy and thankfull to our MotoWagon team.
You are 100% right on the perception created among the people.... I am one such example... People while doing test drive should try and compare all brands first hand on various things to understand how different or same the vehicles are.... I personally feel we should not create a shortlist of vehicles before doing a test drive. Perform a test drive and then probably create a shortlist... It is always better to go to the market with a neutral head and then come to conclusions ourselves... Someone's dislike maybe other person's like and we have a wide range of options.... Once we list few then we should try and understand the pros and cons of the vehicles through maybe services you provide to help people with decisions... Because you guys will have a lot of practical use case knowledge which we might not have at that moment...
Tata zest was 7 L when introduced and tested. Got 4 star. Car quality improved after this testing. Upto certain period maruti product Swift, baleno failed. Later improved.same in the case of hyundai. Now 6 air bags in basic model.
Wonderful topic to create awareness. Whatever it is self responsibility is important. I got your thought but one question you said we can't compare wagonr or Swift with 30L car agreed but both Tiago and WagonR/Swift are almost same price when Tiago is coming with good build quality then why Wagonr can't? This answers the rating
When wagonr comes with better space,comfort,practicality,engineering, best engine in segment , service, resale value , efficiency , hassle free experience it can't cope up with just safety of Tata eventhough Tata is improving now
There is one over bridge in Bglr on the way to KR Puram from Silk Board where the expansion joints are really bad and makes the vehicles jump bad!
Amazing video. Opened my eyes about NCAP. But my understanding and conclusion is that GNCAP ratings are reliable but their hypocracy and selection of car/model is questionable. Also they are not comparing apples to apples rather Swift with Slavia or Taigun.
solid a 1 hr global ncap roast🌚🔥
Japanese motors-india motors Kula fight varanum athaan Global ncap oda velai. American cars matum thaan sale aganum vera yevan cars yum sales agakudathu.
Very good eye opening topic discussed. The information's you are sharing in the podcasts are very much useful for the enthusiast's... And you spoke about your pronunciation and lingual.. Im one of the fan of your pronunciation and your articulation.. So don't consider the negative comments and keep rocking...
Hello MW, thanks for your effort. ungaloda podcast lam keturuken yellam nalla iruku.. intha podcast la sela influencers safety check pannuren nu athoda purpose ah vae tappa solluranga nu sonnenga but atha naraya per namburanga, so yennoda chinna suggestion konjam intha mathuri misguide information ah explain pannura mathuri oru series potengana nalla irukum.
Very very important video sir . Excellent i knew this but comments la na sona none agrees. But thanks ivlo periya geniune UA-camr ana neega sona atleast people will realise that now. Cant thank you enough for this content .
That one point which Crisp and clear is whether it’s 5 star rating it’s depends upon how we drive. So #Drivereaponsibily
Firstly, the safety norms should begin from structural integrity and the maximum rating for a car safety should be given to this aspect. Secondly, we see today that when a new model is introduced, the manufacturer doesn't anounce their newly introduced model's safety rating. Instead, they simply say, "the model is yet to be tested for safety rating"! Such a casual approach by the manufacturers shows their indifference to the passengers' safety. So, the Central Govt should make it a mandate and also insist that all the car manufacturers should first get their safety rating approval & star rating for every new model introduced in the market. If a new model is not subjected to safety rating test by the manufacturer, the govt should apply a ban on the release of such a model. Then only the car manufacturers will be forced to have their commitment to declaring their safety rating for each of their new models before marketing it.
Most awaited content. Clear explanation. Well done. Also pls touch upon hyndai exter for upcoming globalNcap or BharatNcap
One of the best videos of motowagon👌👌 Please add subtitles, this video should reach maximum people across nation
Your content & most of the points are good. But, there is a point to consider, manufacturers can voluntarily send their products for crash test rating which Tata & Mahindra are doing. In this point also, Tata has not sent their Harrier & Safari for testing. The cost of testing is either borne by Manufacturers or GNCAP sponsor. It is easier to purchase a lower cost car of 5L and test to bring awareness to masses than to use a 20L car. The point is awareness. Why is the question not asked to Maruti to voluntarily send their car to test like Tata ? Why is Maruti or Hyundai not taking such actions. They have enough money to sponsor but if they are not confident of their product, they are not volunteering. Kia Seltos abroad scored better rating than Made in India model. Why this question is not asked to manufacturer on making low quality products for us ? Manufacturer if confident of their product, they can file legal case, but they are not doing means they know their product is poor. You are targeting a someone who is trying to bring change to our market. If not for them, maruti & Hyundai kia will continue killing us with low quality product. Example if Tata is sending Punch, why Maruti has not sent Fronx ? Please ask Maruti why they don't have money to send it being 50% market share.
Also, another point these lab tests are taken as a benchmark and is same for all. A car at 64kmph scoring 5 star may drop to 2star at 120kmph, then what about a car scoring 0 star at 64kmph, what happens if you drive this at 120. I owned Maruti car, problem is these cars are lightweight and peppy to drive & allow people to go fast but unsafe. But, Tata Punch i took test drive feels safe but not as peppy like a maruti. I have bad experiences with crash in Maruti but Mahindra has kept me safe inside the car in real life road case.
Emphasis should be on manufacturer to mandatory test their products before launch. Without testing car launch should not be approved by govt. Why this is not being told. Also, only base variants must be tested as that is min. safety guarantee for end consumer, else manufacturer will sell base variant without any safety features using higher rating of top variant.
Thanks for your comment. I mentioned the same in my comment 2 days back. I am a regular follower of this channel and in this particular video, they are encouraging people not to believe safety ratings or safety parameters and playing in their lives.
Interesting content and pls don't ever change this setup it's looks good may be u can add lap for asir Anna's content
Hi. Watching as soon as you post. Very informative and central...... But many will think wat you say is biased bcoz of their love for their car
Great broadcast eye opener of those who blindly trusting the GNCAP Safety and standards 🙄
அண்ணா வணக்கம் ritz கார் பெட்ரோல் வாங்கலாமா அதை பற்றிய தங்களது கருத்துக்களை பதிவிடவும் வண்டி 2016 67,000 km single owner zxi petrol
Tata Harrier test after this video and came 5 star not as claimed by you. 2. They dont have fund, so they only do most selling cars not new costly and less selling car like Alcazar, unless the car is donated by manufacturer. As for maruti, they already tested brezza but for new variant maruti has to send car, i think they need 4 cars + shipping charges. Gncap is blessing even yesterday 5 youngsters died in tiruttani ertiga accident n few week back another accudent involving maruti dzire 4 college student died in car accident in chenna omr new highway
Happy to hear this discussion, from a one month old brezza owner :).
MW team GNCAP pathi innaikku dhaan oru thelivu vandhirukku yenna dhan brezza, scross lam nalla rating vanguna car ah irundhaalum Suzuki brand peru keatalae tin ka dabba nu dhan yeanakku thonum, safety high ah irukka car pathi peasunaalum intha scross, brezza lam neyabagamea varadhu.
But GNCAP original skin peeled👏👏👏👍👍👍
Very informative and literally an eye-opening podcast, English subtitles for this video would be very helpful
Thank you so much for this week podcast guys❤
kudos MW team, for addressing the important topic about GNCAP.. gncap& vocal for local just a marketing...
18:05 Word you are looking for Torch Bearer
Well awareness keep it up 👍. I expect this one year ago however finally you guys are bring it this topic
Bro... Can you put your podcasts in Google podcast as well...
Kudos to the Team Such a Beautiful content I wish all Indian Drivers will see Motowagan and will drive responsibly
Superb video Motowagan Team. Kia seltos and Hyundai creta real test results could be different. Slang and diversions are always welcome and good for the show.Keep it.😊
46:08 I really like your accent, I sometimes imitate it as well ❤
Awesome guys. Every podcast throws light on the intellectual behind the car engineering. 👍
Asir Anna I saw a old video of motowagon, in that you have said that we are planning to buy and resale cars at reasonable price.Just now I remember when you say the purpose of motowagon
Definitely this content has my 5star rating ✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️, thanks motowagon . Hope it will reach all. Nan share panitaen -- nermaiyana MW fan 😂🙌🏻✨️
The Most valuable key points which were included in this video is awesome !, One of the best podcast video 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Asir bro really great topic
Ur guts for these explanation vera level ❤🎉
எனக்கு சில சந்தேகங்கள்
1. நிறுவனங்கள் என் base varient ல் safty features கொடுப்பதில்லை.
2.maruti கிட்ட நல்ல வண்டிகள் இருக்கிறது என்றால் என் அவர்கள் USP ஆக safty ஐ marketing செய்வது இல்லை.
3. Global Ncap சரி இல்லை என்றால் வேறு நல்ல நிறுவனத்தில் வண்டியை கொடுத்து டெஸ்ட் செய்து தங்களின் தரத்தை உறுதி செய்யலாம்.
4.நீங்கள் maruti யை சிறப்பான வண்டி என்று சொல்ல வேண்டும் என்றால் கூட அதன் பிளாஸ்டிக் பாகங்கள் இன்னும் தரமாக இல்லை.
5. நம் நாட்டில் டெஸ்டிங் கொண்டுவந்தால் அது யாரோ ஒரு பெரு முதலாளி யிடம் தான் செல்லும் அப்பொழுது அரசே அவர்களுக்காக வேலை செய்யும்.
Video ah neenga apo purenjikala adhu dhan Idhuku answer🥲 nenga keta ela qus kum ans video la yae iruku irundhalum again solran kelunga
For first namba county la base variant la endha brand uhm ela safety features uhm kudukuradhu ila ipo dhan konjam konjam ah Kondu vantu irukanga base variant ah anupuna rating kammiaga chance iruku
2. Every one has own statergy adhu avangaloda wish Maruthi oda basic usp kamiana price la car kudukanum with good engine and milage
3. Latin ncap idha vida strict ah irukum global la 5star vanguna cars hae anga pona 3dhan vangum
4. Namba country la onu fix paniketinga Maruthi nah matamana quality nu 🤦🏻 safety ula use panra plastic la ila use panra frame and structure la dhan iruku
5. Apdiyelam onum agadhu
@@vijaysmith4885 அடங்கப்ப உள்ள இருக்க பிளாஸ்டிக் யே quality ahh குடுகாதவங்க🤔 structural quality எப்புடி குடுபங்க😂😂
Ncap standards கேக்கல global ncap la partiality இருக்கு என்று சொன்னார்கள் அல்லவா அப்படி இங்கு டெஸ்ட் செய்து result திருப்தி இல்லை என்றால் வேறு இடத்தில் டெஸ்ட் செய்து quality ஐ நிருபிக்கலாமே.
Basic வண்டியில் manual dimming mirror, back wiper, fog light இதை கூட கொடுக்க முடியாத தயாரிப்பு நிறுவனங்கள் பாதுகாப்பை மட்டும் தருவார்கள் என்பது என்ன நிச்சயம். 5-6 ஆயிரம் வரும் பொருட்களை தர மறுத்து cost cutting செய்பவர்கள் எப்படி structural rigidity காக செலவு செய்வார்கள்.
@@kavi1190 🙏🏻vetrunga bro pesi pureyaveka mudiyadhu ungaketa elam
Renault triber 4 star வாங்கும்போதே எனக்கு டவுட் இருந்துச்சு😂😂😂😂
MG glosster review podunga
North Indian media onnu
Xuv 700 ku innum branded content pannitu iruku.nearly 15 episode ku mela shorts aave pottu tu irukanga..😢
Nalla content and well explained. Your team will be in greater heights soon and remain in this neutral stand always as you go higher.
The bridge you have mentioned in the Madurai ring road is the worst bridge I have ever seen on a highway. That too newly constructed