AVENGERS DOOMSDAY EXPLAINED! - RDJ Doom and Deadpool & Wolverine Connections

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  • @TheMaxRebo
    @TheMaxRebo 2 місяці тому +50

    I love the idea of Loki having to convince the Avengers to join up to take on Tony Stark/Doom

    • @handsoffmyskull
      @handsoffmyskull 2 місяці тому +6

      I'm hoping for this. it's gonna be a great surprise that is thrilling af, like what they did to spiderverse

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell 2 місяці тому +2

      Me too! Can’t wait for him to reunite with Clint, Bruce, Fury, Coulson, Selvig and Thor again. The reactions will be priceless! Some proper interaction with Strange would be cool as well!

  • @maxxpadilla9577
    @maxxpadilla9577 2 місяці тому +179

    Didnt we already have a snarky, sarcastic Tony Stark type villain in Ultron? I really hope RDJ plays Doom the total opposite of Stark.

    • @tirosc
      @tirosc 2 місяці тому +21

      It's hard because its so iconic that Tony Stark and RDJ is synonymous now. Even in Oppenheimer when he played Lewis Strauss, it still looked at moments like Tony Stark.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 місяці тому +13

      Are we forgetting that RDJ played a blue eyed blonde hair Australian who played a Black guy in a movie? And he just won an Oscar finally for Oppenheimer. His acting chops are upper echelon.

    • @afrothunder1082
      @afrothunder1082 2 місяці тому +4

      You should most definitely watch more RDJ roles, guys got so much range.

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter 2 місяці тому +3

      I think he can pull it off but they got to do the rest right. No half measures or gaffs but hit it hard and fast.

    • @BruceNewhouse
      @BruceNewhouse 2 місяці тому +2

      I hope he plays an Eastern European aristocrat complete with accent. I don’t suspect he will as he did Sherlock Holmes without an English accent.

  • @robertbaldwin5636
    @robertbaldwin5636 2 місяці тому +40

    I feel like the idea, of Loki...the reason for the Avengers to assemble in the first place, being the one to assemble them to save the multiverse is awesome, and something I lean into. Or, even have Dooms plan to kill Loki, and the heroes have to save him to save the multiverse, would also be pretty amazing.

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell 2 місяці тому +1

      I agree! I just wish that Loki had the chance to look ultra badass!

  • @harveywhitby8934
    @harveywhitby8934 2 місяці тому +451

    They said victor von doom not tony stark

    • @decemberinthecity
      @decemberinthecity 2 місяці тому +82

      why would they want to spoil that he’s a Stark variant? obviously they’re going to say Victor Von Doom

    • @wilmaso
      @wilmaso 2 місяці тому +17

      Exactly they said he will play victor... but that second part... was never said lol.

    • @shadowkiller6637
      @shadowkiller6637 2 місяці тому +7

      @@decemberinthecity I think his name will still be Victor though it won’t be Tony Stark just to differentiate him from doom

    • @comicbooknerd3570
      @comicbooknerd3570 2 місяці тому +20

      Exactly. He’s not a tony variant.

    • @rorycalhoun5431
      @rorycalhoun5431 2 місяці тому +26

      Victor Von Doom could be an alias. Doesn't need to be the name he was born with.

  • @karencoyle3011
    @karencoyle3011 2 місяці тому +63

    Doom is a Tony Stark that read the Darkhold.

    • @TheBeeber
      @TheBeeber 2 місяці тому +11

      This is the best explanation I’ve seen yet.

    • @herefordian70
      @herefordian70 2 місяці тому +3

      So Stark hold Darkhold?

    • @Jamestng315
      @Jamestng315 2 місяці тому +3

      Doom reading the darkhold to possess his look alike variant body? In the movie, it has to be same exact characters that exist in the other multiversal plane inorder for one to possess the body. This wouldn't make sense.

    • @JanSport805
      @JanSport805 2 місяці тому +1

      Starkhold

    • @luiscruz3261
      @luiscruz3261 Місяць тому

      Nope.

  • @k_chyx
    @k_chyx 2 місяці тому +21

    They better make Marc Spector say "Somehow Stark returned"

  • @asdkotable
    @asdkotable 2 місяці тому +28

    Regarding Loki trying to assemble his own heroes... It would be hella interesting if the Avengers of 616, who remember the Sacred Timeline variant of him as a tyrant and a liar, simply refuse to join him because of his putrid reputation and join Doom instead because he's a variant of Tony, who's remembered as a selfless hero. However, Loki would be able to recruit heroes from other universes who haven't had terrible experiences with their universe's Loki, such as the X-Men and the Fantastic Four (who might already be wary of Doom from their previous experience(s)). Avengers v X-men?

    • @shawnmcvey7789
      @shawnmcvey7789 2 місяці тому +7

      That does sound interesting. I think Thor might be important in that story because he might actually believe Loki

    • @mrhoeft
      @mrhoeft 2 місяці тому +4

      That is a badass idea, I love it!!

    • @Jamestng315
      @Jamestng315 2 місяці тому +1

      Avengers vs x men would be a cool project, but not for the secret wars plot. When you put their strongest characters from the two factions it's gonna be Jean Grey Phoenix & Wanda Scarlet Witch. I personally think they are too OP for the MCU for now. People would rather see these guys team up instead of watching another civil war. If Hope Summer isn't gonna be introduced as a character then we wont be expecting this plot in a while.

    • @jonhawk117
      @jonhawk117 2 місяці тому

      @@shawnmcvey7789 Thor might still be off world at this point, but maybe Stormbreaker can port him back? I dont remember what its range is but he did get from the forge to Earth.

  • @HACKTACULAR.
    @HACKTACULAR. 2 місяці тому +8

    As soon as you said, “the greatest marvel character of all time” I immediately liked the video🤷‍♂️🤣🤣

  • @BillSaggar
    @BillSaggar 2 місяці тому +8

    I enjoy your theories more than the work itself. I just realized that I love the journey more than the destination.

  • @archimedesblack895
    @archimedesblack895 2 місяці тому +12

    The only way this will work for me, RDJ has to be masked from the beginning. We know who is behind the mask, so there is no reason for a dramatic reveal. The only way to do the character justice will be the writing because we know RDJ can act.

    • @thatsnoternie
      @thatsnoternie 2 місяці тому +4

      I agree. I would not have revealed RDJ as Dr. Doom until midway through Doomsday. Then it opens up the possibility of him being someone the Avengers think they can trust because they “know” him, but in reality he’s the biggest enemy they’ve faced.

    • @nicksorenson940
      @nicksorenson940 2 місяці тому

      If they ended up having him in the new Fantastic Four movie but kept him masked for all of it then the film might have more of a chance of standing more on its own, not like how distracting it could be going back to the 2000s F4 movies and just seeing Chris Evans' Cap in the Human Torch, though those movies have the excuse of being made before the MCU started.

  • @slimjimnyc270
    @slimjimnyc270 2 місяці тому +40

    I think RDJ is a great actor who can make us forget Tony Stark (in the new Avenger movies). In Tropic Thunder, RDJ made me forget he was really "a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude".

    • @cyphertongue
      @cyphertongue 2 місяці тому +1

      The makeup and the accent helped him immensely with that.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 місяці тому +2

      @@cyphertongueWhich one he used 2 different accents in that movie as he played 2 different people perfectly.

    • @cyphertongue
      @cyphertongue 2 місяці тому

      @Byronic19134 both I guess. Doesn't matter how good his acting is, he's never gonna be able to to make us forget he's Tony Stark just through his acting alone like what op said. Unless he uses heavy makeup and a totally different accent, he might be able to 'dissapear' into the role like he did in tropic thunder. I would've actually liked it better if the surprise comes out from us not knowing it was rdj behind the mask in the movie because how different he sounds and acts instead of this reveal.

  • @judo8704
    @judo8704 2 місяці тому +112

    I wonder about 2 Dooms. Downey Doom and then another universe s Doom would be the permanent Doom.

    • @Beezle66
      @Beezle66 2 місяці тому +3

      Nah, let RDJ be the full doom

    • @wildmont2k
      @wildmont2k 2 місяці тому +8

      @@Beezle66 no

    • @Beezle66
      @Beezle66 2 місяці тому +3

      @@wildmont2k your mom, sister, aunt, uncle, friends, everyone who is a CASUAL is what makes marvel and Disney money. They don't care about comic accuracy. They want to see a familiar face that is popular and a good story. That's what the Russo's are doing. Get over it man

    • @Bandanab310
      @Bandanab310 2 місяці тому

      I think that is going to be the case

    • @laverdadescatolica5
      @laverdadescatolica5 2 місяці тому

      @@Beezle66yeah … $90 million a film?? No way. MCU won’t kill themselves. Expect a REBOOT. It’s happened in comics. It WILL happen once. SECRET WARS is the point at which they need to do it.

  • @stephenrobinson8244
    @stephenrobinson8244 2 місяці тому +7

    New mask same task, a shield around the world. Doom is gonna think he is the hero but actually be a bad guy

  • @Derek_ENGRAFFT
    @Derek_ENGRAFFT 2 місяці тому +1

    Among the many things that I love about your channel, I love that you guys make merch that’s more original and less derivative than other channels

  • @DawnstealerGaming
    @DawnstealerGaming 2 місяці тому +11

    If I remember right, Doom was as technically brilliant as Tony, and as magically brilliant as Strange. Kind of scary, if done right

  • @DRossGaming
    @DRossGaming 2 місяці тому +46

    This isn't desperate. Desperate would be bringing him back to play Tony Stark again, completely negating his epic ending. This is epic. RDJ playing a Thanos-level villian? Culminating with an ending from the dude who started it all?? No brainer.

    • @destini_ariel
      @destini_ariel 2 місяці тому +4

      I agree with you 100% on that

    • @alexandergentry353
      @alexandergentry353 2 місяці тому +3

      well put, i think people are trying to view this as iron man coming back

    • @DRossGaming
      @DRossGaming 2 місяці тому +2

      @@alexandergentry353 I think everyone kinda has a shaky feeling about this. But it's because of what they've done the last couple years, now they're going back to what they know works. Bob Chapick messed a lot of things up. Marvel def has to play catch up now.

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell 2 місяці тому +1

      and Tom Hiddleston’s Loki being the main hero this time around.

    • @rahulmahato1501
      @rahulmahato1501 2 місяці тому +2

      Preach , brother!!

  • @lukeluck1395
    @lukeluck1395 2 місяці тому +11

    [Doom enters Earth 616]
    Avengers - "Tony, is that you?"
    Doom - "There is no Tony, there is only Doom"

    • @anieltavares7991
      @anieltavares7991 2 місяці тому +1

      How bad and cheesy
      Sounds like something the deep wrote

    • @jonhawk117
      @jonhawk117 2 місяці тому

      @@anieltavares7991 Cheesy is Peak Doom, no one talking in the third person isnt cheesy, even Doom. But thats why we love him, is that he can make cheesy lines fucking terrifying.

    • @anieltavares7991
      @anieltavares7991 2 місяці тому

      @@jonhawk117 it’s not that he talks the the third person it’s that it’s so predictable and sounds like a b movie straight to dvd type dialogue that the boys would make fun of with the deep saying it but hey marvel is cinema “apparently” 😂

  • @ok_yup857
    @ok_yup857 2 місяці тому +136

    "A Tony variant gives marvel the tools necessary to make this the truest and most comic accurate version of Doom possible" is the silliest thing I've heard about all this. I'm very interested in RDJ being Doom, I'm sure it will be better then the past 2 Dooms, but there's no way it will be the truest or most comic book accurate version of Doom POSSIBLE. "POSSIBLE???" That statement is just delusional.

    • @xForeverActivex
      @xForeverActivex 2 місяці тому +13

      Agreed

    • @dustdonkey1222
      @dustdonkey1222 2 місяці тому +25

      This channel is full of delusional takes unfortunately

    • @mrhoeft
      @mrhoeft 2 місяці тому +12

      Thank you!! When he said that, I legit laughed because he’s way off.

    • @nickp8253
      @nickp8253 2 місяці тому +18

      Legit worst take this channel has ever had. At least Ryan is keeping it real

    • @laverdadescatolica5
      @laverdadescatolica5 2 місяці тому +2

      Perhaps Dr. Doom from FANTASTIC FOUR 2025 (not RDJ) will be the first person to create a “time machine” to save his mother from being burned at the stake.
      Dr. Doom in MARVEL COMICS is introduced in FF #5 as the creator of “time machine.” He is the 1st person in MARVEL COMICS to create a “time machine.”
      THEN, Kang/Nathan, who is working with Reed and Victor in Baxter Building as an intern, STEALS it and begins to use it for riches/power.
      This allows for RDJ/DrDoom to exist and want to find a way to KILL-OFF Kang Council and eliminate all timelines and rule over the existing one. HOWEVER, he is KILLED-OFF by FANTASTIC FOUR 2025 comic accurate Dr. Doom …. Mads Mikkelsen 😀

  • @BL_fanboy
    @BL_fanboy 2 місяці тому +5

    I'll loose my shit if Scarlett witch makes a comeback in Avengers Doomsday 🥹

    • @rangers94ism
      @rangers94ism 2 місяці тому +1

      Right? Could you imagine she just defeats the Fantastic 4 and dr. doom just as easily? I would laugh so hard. I hope that once she kills them off, we never see these ridiculous characters ever again.

  • @CharlieHepp
    @CharlieHepp Місяць тому +2

    I love the idea of Loki having to convince the Avengers to join up to take on Tony Stark/Doom Doom is a Tony Stark who read The Darkhold. Didn't we already have a snarky, sarcastic Tony Stark-type villain in Ultron? I really hope RDJ plays Doom the total opposite of Stark. It’s ironic in a way how Kang was such a flash in the pan for the MCU, it is reminiscent of Secret Wars comics from the 80s. Everyone thought Kang was going to be more prominent in those comics as well until a surprising event that involved Ultron and Doom changed all that. Interesting coincidence? They said Victor von Doom and Tony Stark I feel like the idea, of Loki...the reason for the Avengers to assemble in the first place, being the one to assemble them to save the multiverse is awesome, and something I lean into. Or, even have Doom plans to kill Loki, and the heroes have to save him to save the multiverse, would also be pretty amazing. They just need to introduce pre-retconned Beyonder and have him wipe out and restart the whole Marvel universe in Secret Wars. The only way this will work for me is that RDJ has to be masked from the beginning. We know who is behind the mask, so there is no reason for a dramatic reveal. The only way to do the character justice will be the writing because we know RDJ can act.
    They better make Marc Spector say "Somehow Stark returned" Regarding Loki trying to assemble his own heroes... It would be hella interesting if the Avengers of 616, who remember the Sacred Timeline variant of him as a tyrant and a liar, simply refuse to join him because of his putrid reputation and join Doom instead because he's a variant of Tony, who's remembered as a selfless hero. However, Loki would be able to recruit heroes from other universes who haven't had terrible experiences with their universe's Loki, such as the X-Men and the Fantastic Four (who might already be wary of Doom from their previous experience(s)). Avengers v X-Men? [Doom enters Earth 616] Avengers - "Tony, is that you?" Doom - "There is no Tony, there is only Doom"
    This isn't desperate. Desperate would be bringing him back to play Tony Stark again, completely negating his epic ending. This is epic. Is RDJ playing a Thanos-level villain? Culminating with an ending from the dude who started it all?? No brainer. If I remember right, Doom was as technically brilliant as Tony and as magically brilliant as Strange. Kind of scary, if done right I wonder about 2 Dooms. Downey Doom and then another universe's Doom would be the permanent Doom. New mask same task, a shield around the world. Doom is gonna think he is the hero but actually be a bad guy I think RDJ is a great actor who can make us forget Tony Stark (in the new Avengers next movies). In Tropic Thunder, RDJ made me forget he was really "a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude". Nothing explains more about Colton than his admission, "I like desperate". Yep. As soon as you said, “The greatest Marvel new character of all time” I immediately liked the video You guys seem stuck on the idea that this Doom will be a Tony Stark variant, but we have seen people in other timelines that are variants with totally different faces (like Reed from Multiverse of Madness), and now people who are completely different with the same face (Chris Evans in D&W) I'll lose my shit if Scarlett witch makes a comeback in Avengers Doomsday 🥹 "A Tony variant gives marvel the tools necessary to make this the truest and most comic accurate version of Doom possible" is the silliest thing I've heard about all this. I'm very interested in RDJ being Doom, I'm sure it will be better than the past 2 Dooms, but there's no way it will be the truest or most comic book-accurate version of Doom POSSIBLE. "POSSIBLE???" That statement is just delusional. the fact they are bringing RDJ back even if it's as another character they are trying to save a sinking ship Now playing Disney's Dana & Kamala | Star Wars The Acolyte Shills Keep Shilling | Box Office & MORE VALLIANT RENEGADE 1.1K watching LIVE What if the MCU Had ALL IT'S CHARACTERS from the Beginning LewisFiction season 1 episode 3 teaser in the episode 2 name is called it Protocol seen it in the past that fight was a seen a ghost okay.

  • @MatthewKoski
    @MatthewKoski 2 місяці тому +4

    If you look at the logos Avengers doomsday is green. Secret wars is red and gold.. could be that doom takes over a variant of stark while stark is stuck in dooms body. Secret wars Tony gets back to his body and ironman returns, fights along side the avengers joined by wolverine and deadpool. Something everyone has wanted to see for ever.

  • @junichitakeda63
    @junichitakeda63 2 місяці тому +1

    If done right, this brings a whole new level to tony’s “you mess with time, it tends to mess back”

  • @MechaTrekAD
    @MechaTrekAD 2 місяці тому +6

    Nothing explains more about Colton then his admission, "I like desperate". Yep.

  • @cboehm24
    @cboehm24 2 місяці тому +4

    You guys seem stuck on the idea that this Doom will be a Tony Stark variant, but we have seen people in other timeliness that are variants with totally different faces (like Reed from Multiverse of Madness), and now people who are completely different with the same face (Chris Evans in D&W)

  • @DermotBrophy
    @DermotBrophy 2 місяці тому +3

    the fact they are bringing RDJ back even if its as another char they are trying to save a sinking ship

  • @keroro9663
    @keroro9663 2 місяці тому +4

    What does this mean for Kang then? Honestly, I hope Marvel Studios is just putting him on the back burner for now and they will use him again in the future. Especially how far established the character is in the MCU. If they do end up using Kang again in the future, hopefully they’ll do things right with him.

  • @jonahkaiguam
    @jonahkaiguam 2 місяці тому +3

    There's a universe in where Doom was a college student and his roommate was Tony Stark....not Reed Richards..... in this universe Doom Tricks Stark into helping create a machine that would supposedly give people telekinetic powers when it was a ruse all along and it was designed to allow Doom to swap bodies with Stark. I believe this is gonna be the basis for Avengers Doomsday

  • @tanookilord
    @tanookilord 2 місяці тому +11

    The most respectful thing they could have done to the character is let him be his own man, not connected to Tony Stark. That would be comic accurate. Making him a variant is a lazy, uninspiring creative choice that simply draws on the flaws of a different Stark. That's not Doom. That's a weak imitation that has to rely on our feelings for Stark instead of putting in the work to make him his own unique character.
    Still a bad idea, Colton. And to echo other comments regarding it being a way to make the most "comic accurate Doom possible"...that's laughable and utterly ridiculous.

  • @smaustin23ify
    @smaustin23ify 2 місяці тому +3

    Has anyone just thought that RDJ will have makeup to make him look different. Just look at the Collin playing the penguin.

  • @SomePurpleSkittles
    @SomePurpleSkittles 2 місяці тому +15

    Doom cannot be a “Tony variant “ that’d be an insult to doom

    • @kingaristadal2566
      @kingaristadal2566 2 місяці тому +2

      Right

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter 2 місяці тому +3

      I like Iron Man.. but if you are going to have a "evil" iron man.. it should be a proper evil iron man and stay away from Doom.
      Doom is a Legend, the kinda of thing you EARN the right to show, not "i inject this into my work to bring in the crowds". Ultron sucks he got shafted but you cant shaft Doom, i rather see the Xmen burn from being too passionate then see a failed Doom on the Big Screen.

    • @dylanbruhhh4208
      @dylanbruhhh4208 2 місяці тому

      What confirms someone as a variant? Just because people look alike doesn’t mean they’re the SAME person… take twins for example they’re different people who look the same doesn’t mean that one is a variant of the other… use your brain before going on the internet thankyou

  • @Northsidepace
    @Northsidepace 2 місяці тому +42

    So I’m confused, is all Loki is doing now is holding the timelines together? Like realistically if he let go it would all collapse again no? I wonder how he’s used the next films

    • @teeturnedthepage
      @teeturnedthepage 2 місяці тому +9

      This is all I can think about, no matter the show or movie coming out. Like “Okay… so what about the TVA?”

    • @ScottSaysStuff
      @ScottSaysStuff 2 місяці тому +13

      Pretty sure the TVA is still wiping out Kang variants, but they're letting timelines live/grow. All versions of Kang getting wiped out means they can't take over the universe/tva, unleash the Kang multiversal war, and lead back to the sole sacred timeline. We'll still get a multiversal war, it's just going to be for a different reason other than Kang.

    • @Bandanab310
      @Bandanab310 2 місяці тому

      What Loki did is not a permanent fix he is essentially trying to buy time until another solution for the universes to coexist without incursions to happen. But it’s going to be impossible. And with two universes that should have naturally died (ie fox in Deadpool and Wolverine & mcu in the eternals) they are on a collision course. And RDJ doom is going to try and stop it his way and Loki is going to try to stop it another way and two multiversal teams are going to be created. That’s just a theory.

    • @RoofingConnecticut
      @RoofingConnecticut 2 місяці тому +5

      He’s eventually going to have to let go of the timelines if we ever get secret wars

    • @robertzoscak1615
      @robertzoscak1615 2 місяці тому +5

      How does he use the bathroom? Someone must wipe for him

  • @Gamernumber1313
    @Gamernumber1313 2 місяці тому +3

    I can’t wait. Hyped no matter what.

  • @rossdiddy29
    @rossdiddy29 2 місяці тому +3

    You guys aren't selling me on this... If he was a Stark variant, why not keep that a secret? It's an Avenger's movie. We dont need RDJ to sell tickets for that movie. Im still torn on this. They probably should have gotten a different actor to play Doom.

  • @young_Sandwich7
    @young_Sandwich7 2 місяці тому

    I've made a 180 and am now super excited for RDJ as Doom thanks to this video

  • @nicholasgarrick8855
    @nicholasgarrick8855 2 місяці тому +5

    I hope There to be a moment in avengers Doomsday where The RDJ version gets wrecked by the actual main Dr. Doom.

    • @manchuk1d
      @manchuk1d 2 місяці тому

      What i was thinkking also, near the end of Doomsday RDJ Doom gets slaughtered and we see the real doom and he says there can only be one and it ends. I dont know i just hope they come up with a huge wtf plot twist.

    • @yungjose3369
      @yungjose3369 2 місяці тому +1

      they are definitely not going to do that to RDJ right after being brought back with millions of money. He is Dr Doom for as long as they like him to be

  • @tystr85
    @tystr85 2 місяці тому +1

    I won't be able to unsee RDJ as Tony Stark, even though he's been cast as a different Marvel character.

  • @MeltDown950
    @MeltDown950 2 місяці тому +3

    All I can say is that if you have to justify RDJ as Doom, that means he's not the right choice, plain and simple.

  • @nicholashanson3
    @nicholashanson3 2 місяці тому +1

    Can’t wait for the clip of RDJ hammering something in a cave and then it’s dooms mask.

  • @C_E_0
    @C_E_0 2 місяці тому +20

    Respectfully, it doesn’t matter how passionate Colton can make himself sound about casting RDJ as Dr Doom and having a Tony Stark variant be behind the mask. This is, as most people understandably feel, not the best way to honor the character. His reasons are weak at best and are contingent on people feeling the exact same way as he does in order to make it work. It’s like forcing the wrong puzzle piece to fit.

    • @michaelhinton2738
      @michaelhinton2738 2 місяці тому +1

      Feels like a money grab and their outta ideas

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 місяці тому

      @@michaelhinton2738They could have just made an Iron Man 4 for all that and had anybody play Doom. It’s clear the Russo’s have a specific vision and are cooking because they seemed legit excited about what they have.

  • @aj4636
    @aj4636 2 місяці тому +1

    0:21 I love when you guys use this clip 😭😭

  • @venaseph6314
    @venaseph6314 2 місяці тому +3

    If there's a bad take, Colton finds it 😂

  • @johncuser
    @johncuser 2 місяці тому

    I like to see this much disagreement and debate about theories when you have guests on. Really helps you see multiple perspectives. Great video as always Ryan!

  • @TheLivingNightm4re
    @TheLivingNightm4re 2 місяці тому +33

    6:27 Joe Russo said on the stage "Victor Von Doom".

    • @Flomas98
      @Flomas98 2 місяці тому +3

      6:28 " I don't know if this version of doom will have the name Vicor Von Doom or Tony Stark, that's yet to be seen"
      Dude they literally announced him on stage as "the one person who could play Victor Von Doom"

    • @InfiniteLoop
      @InfiniteLoop 2 місяці тому

      wasn't there a revelation that Tony was actually adopted and Howards true son was crazy or something perhaps that is how Little Victor ended up as Tony rather than as ALL HAIL DOOM!

    • @seewhativescene
      @seewhativescene 2 місяці тому

      Howard the duck Stark seems more realistic at this point ​@@InfiniteLoop

    • @seewhativescene
      @seewhativescene 2 місяці тому

      "Howard The Duck Stark" ​@@InfiniteLoop

    • @thomasleonardis711
      @thomasleonardis711 2 місяці тому +1

      And Kang the conquerer went by Victor Timely & He who remains in the MCU but was still just variants of Kang. Both can be true and it would almost need to be. The emotional arc alone would be too much for his face not to be shown and for him to be mistaken for Stark. He will be a variant.

  • @wildeyej0ker
    @wildeyej0ker 2 місяці тому +4

    It’s not a variant of Tony Stark. We know Infamous iron man story. It’s probably going to be a mix of that “What If” comic book called Demon in an Armor mixed with the newer secret wars storyline. If anything it’s a variant of Doom. Then soft reboot after secret wars with the fantastic 4, the newer casting for X-men, Avengers in the new universe after secret wars.

    • @mr.steinhaus6014
      @mr.steinhaus6014 2 місяці тому +1

      Why can’t it be both? Born Tony Stark, but through wild course of events is adopted and becomes VVD? LOL. It’s the multiverse after all!

    • @Subject_Keter
      @Subject_Keter 2 місяці тому +1

      I kinda wish they would do Infamous Iron Man, he was dope.
      Doe imo, If i had to rope in RDJ.. I would use the storyline that Doctor Doom had his brain injuried in a fight so he used his sorcery to take over Iron Man body as a temp to repair his brain.
      So you still have a Proper Doctor Doom and RDJ gets to be all Doomy but doesnt totally crap on Doom.
      Also Superior Iron Man! Can you imagine that but Superior Iron Man took over his Universe around Age of Ultron time and conquered it.

  • @jjmadrid23
    @jjmadrid23 2 місяці тому +2

    I hope Loki will be the hero (Iron Man) in this story.

  • @AbdullahQumper
    @AbdullahQumper 2 місяці тому +4

    RDJ sayed :"new mask. same task" I assume he is iron man but in another universe named Doom and he is a villain

    • @supersentaii5590
      @supersentaii5590 2 місяці тому

      I'd like to think he meant that about carrying the MCU again

    • @Jamestng315
      @Jamestng315 2 місяці тому

      @@AbdullahQumper i must say, Kevin Feige did not like any of it when Rdj said it. Feige had to ask Joe who came up with that shit as if he didn't know about it. And Joe immediately pointed to Anthony. You guys noticed Anthony was quick to address what new task meant right? It certainly didn't sound too good to Feige, like the MCU is collpapsing and they needed rdj to save Marvel again like in 2008.

  • @Koolasookis
    @Koolasookis 2 місяці тому +1

    “Greatest marvel character of all time”
    BASED

  • @AuthorJakeAStrife
    @AuthorJakeAStrife 2 місяці тому +12

    He is not a variant of Tony Stark.

    • @wildeyej0ker
      @wildeyej0ker 2 місяці тому

      Facts. Its Doom. Hopefully the A Demon in an Armor story where Victor steals Tony’s body because they were college roommates in this story. If anything it’s a variant of Doom

    • @rorycalhoun5431
      @rorycalhoun5431 2 місяці тому

      Nah, Stark variant.

  • @sunny8307
    @sunny8307 2 місяці тому +1

    I *need* RDJ and Pedro Pascal to play off one another so badly. It'll be phenomenal.

  • @FlavouredBuds
    @FlavouredBuds 2 місяці тому +6

    Marvel could cast a literal turd 💩 and Colton would argue why it’s a good thing….
    Please have some honest thoughts guys ,it’s what makes screencrush worth watching…or atleast it used to be.

    • @trentfarris4029
      @trentfarris4029 2 місяці тому

      Amen I had to stop watching the boys breakdowns

  • @ryancarlton6965
    @ryancarlton6965 2 місяці тому +1

    I keep going back to Tony's quote from Endgame: "You mess with time, it tends to mess back. You'll see." I think Tony traveled the Mutiverse, via his time travel platform, and one result is playing out in Avengers: Doomsday with him becoming Dr. Doom. "You'll see..."😏

  • @superheroes_nard
    @superheroes_nard 2 місяці тому +14

    Colton is so funny when he says Kevin have same level respect for the character... yeah, i saw that when he give respect for Ultron, Gorr, malekith and many others villains and heroes that MCU fuck up. remember ancient one or mandarin from Iron man 3.. where's respect for character went ??

    • @godson200
      @godson200 2 місяці тому +2

      Mandarin and 10 rings was redeemed real hard in shang chi. Yeah the character was a joke still the actor but it was a clever misdirection. The movie could have been named Iron Man: Extremis

    • @superheroes_nard
      @superheroes_nard 2 місяці тому +2

      @godson200 yeah, but Kevin didn't respect the character in the first place like Colton said that.. why would you destroy something in the first place when you can do it right. And even if we forgive him for one character, there are many other characters he didn't respect. Sorry, I'm confident in Colton words.. and definitely not upset that they took a desperate move. They should take this kind of desperate move, unlike DC.. they didn't want to take the desperate move.. they just reboot the universe.. at least Kevin didn't do that. But don't give the BS.. that Kevin respects the character crap.. look at what he did with Thor, Hulk, or the Skrulls.

    • @fng8682
      @fng8682 2 місяці тому +3

      @@superheroes_nardit’s wild how he said by making Doom a Stark variant could lead to the most comic accurate adaptation we’ve ever seen. That gave me whiplash like sure he’s the most comic accurate Doom if you ignore the rivalry he has with Reed, the fact he’s the leader of Latveria, and his name is Victor Von Doom not Tony Stark TOTALLY accurate 👍

    • @kiezersosay49
      @kiezersosay49 2 місяці тому

      Cmon now skeeter... he ain't hurtn no body.

    • @joshuacollins9316
      @joshuacollins9316 2 місяці тому

      So what about all the characters they did get right?
      Iron Man, Cap, Black Panther, Hawk Eye, Shang Chi, Bucky, Black Widow, Spiderman, Namor, Thanos, Vulture, Mystero, Ant Man, Siri, Vision, Loki, Mobius, Dr Strange, Wong, Happy Hogan, Killmonger, Pepper Potts, Zemo, Peter Quil, Gamora, Rocket, Drax, Groot, Mantis, Nebula, High Evolutionary, Ego, Yalena, Kate Biship, Mrs. Marvel, Everet Ross, Nick Fury, Hela, Green Goblin, Deadpool, ect…

  • @tldr365
    @tldr365 2 місяці тому +1

    Nah. I still remembered when Colton praised the flash to high heavens.

  • @NickelAntonius
    @NickelAntonius 2 місяці тому +16

    Doom is not a Tony Stark variant, it's just the same actor doing the voice

    • @godson200
      @godson200 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah just like Groot isn't a street racer who cares about family and features in movies like fast and the furious

    • @jimmehrabbit
      @jimmehrabbit 2 місяці тому

      $80million for ADR? I doubt it. Man I hate that they made this decision

    • @slimjimnyc270
      @slimjimnyc270 2 місяці тому

      @jimmehrabbit. Campea said he heard the cap was $100 million. ADDENDUM: There's a base amount RDJ gets (don't know the base) w/ bonuses up to $100 million.

    • @jimmehrabbit
      @jimmehrabbit 2 місяці тому

      @@slimjimnyc270 🤦‍♂️

  • @wheattoast1971
    @wheattoast1971 2 місяці тому +2

    Personally I get the benefits to having A darker version of Tony Stark become Doom and become the villain of Secret Wars. I understand it. I don’t like it.
    I get that it’s a thing in the comics. I love the What If episode where T’Challa became Star Lord. I have the What If comic issue where Punisher became Captain America. Those are fun, no doubt!
    Why those work though is we’ve already seen both characters’ stories unfold normally prior to that. For the Tony Variant Doom theory to really work on screen we need to have already seen Doom AND Tony. Them doing this first kind of depends on that the viewer has already read the comics and know who Doom is, which that isn’t the case for everyone. I’m sure some people will get into the comics fully thinking Doom is just Iron Man from another universe. Then again, sure if they keep What If going past S3 for like a Marvel Spotlight or something and did the Tony as Doom storyline after doing Doom justice in the movie, I’ll gladly show my appreciation. But before we see variant of Doom we need to see Doom as he should be, not just give Tony Victor’s life and call him Victor.
    They can easily do an evil Iron Man in Superior Iron Man as an evil variant working under Beyonder Doom or God Emperor Doom. But Doom should be Doom before just giving us someone who acts like him. That’s my thoughts!

  • @comicbooknerd3570
    @comicbooknerd3570 2 місяці тому +18

    RDJ is not playing a variant. The Russos said he will play Victor Von Doom at Hall H.

    • @kingleepz
      @kingleepz 2 місяці тому +3

      that's true, but he could simply be takin the name Victor Von Doom and be revealed to be a Stark variant later, it's not unlikely that he would want to shed the Stark name if this version of Tony fell on a darker path and moved to a different country, or maybe he was an orphan and was raised in Latveria by Cynthia and Werner Von Doom, etc, there's many ways he can technically be both.

    • @fictionverse7292
      @fictionverse7292 2 місяці тому +1

      Well one way is that the makeup artists could make him have a scarred face and look so different so cosmetics won’t be an issue

    • @DJGoHardOrDontGo
      @DJGoHardOrDontGo 2 місяці тому +1

      He could be found or rescued as an infant in his and the fantastic 4’s universe when his parents are killed. They name him Victor and he has no recollection of ever being a “stark” until he enters 616 and they ( the avengers ) discover his face & call him Tony… but he will not even know or recollect who the hell Tony Stark is, and all hell breaks loose. He could literally be raised with victors same back story , with just a retcon on his actual birth parents & him being taken in by the von dooms 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @laverdadescatolica5
      @laverdadescatolica5 2 місяці тому

      Perhaps Dr. Doom from FANTASTIC FOUR 2025 (not RDJ) will be the first person to create a “time machine” to save his mother from being burned at the stake.
      Dr. Doom in MARVEL COMICS is introduced in FF #5 as the creator of “time machine.” He is the 1st person in MARVEL COMICS to create a “time machine.”
      THEN, Kang/Nathan, who is working with Reed and Victor in Baxter Building as an intern, STEALS it and begins to use it for riches/power.
      This allows for RDJ/DrDoom to exist and want to find a way to KILL-OFF Kang Council and eliminate all timelines and rule over the existing one. HOWEVER, he is KILLED-OFF by FANTASTIC FOUR 2025 comic accurate Dr. Doom …. Mads Mikkelsen 😀

    • @HonestJohn_01.19
      @HonestJohn_01.19 2 місяці тому

      Their referring to Robert Downey Jr. as, "Victor Von Doom" rather than simply, "Dr. Doom"-- could just be a semantic misdirect in order to keep fans guessing, and prevent us from knowing that he's actually a Tony Stark variant too soon/ before the studio wants us to.

  • @colonelsanders1617
    @colonelsanders1617 2 місяці тому +1

    I think it could be an if Ultron won Tony. The timeline splits after Age of Ultron after he drops the meteor and maybe kills the avengers or something. Tony becomes obsessed with fixing and makes a base in the crater of Sokovia which becomes latveria

  • @AHWilliams614
    @AHWilliams614 2 місяці тому +3

    colton said a bunch of nothing

  • @rithmx
    @rithmx 2 місяці тому +2

    still skeptical because I've already mourned RDJ, and variants, and what always happens in the comics, isn't what I wanted out of mass appeal movie franchise. But these guys make a decent enough case for accepting it.

  • @TheRand0mHer089
    @TheRand0mHer089 2 місяці тому +12

    Everyone keeps glossing over the fact that he was introduced at the panel as Victor Von Doom.

    • @tuommika
      @tuommika 2 місяці тому +1

      Victor Von Doom can be a Tony Stark variant from another universe. Then the introduction is totally correct.

  • @RobMueller84
    @RobMueller84 2 місяці тому +1

    Doom never shows his face so it's just RDJ playing a different character to get interest and speculation, not a variant issue.

  • @NathanialAshtier
    @NathanialAshtier 2 місяці тому +3

    I've seen a lot of coverage about this. Not one of the people talking about has mentioned that they fired Majors for minor legal troubles, and replaced him with a person who had much more major legal troubles in his past.

    • @Ennylack
      @Ennylack 2 місяці тому +5

      RDJ's crimes were hurting himself. Jonathon Majors crimes were hurting other people.

    • @oskarskalski2982
      @oskarskalski2982 2 місяці тому

      RdJ was employed in mid-00's (don't know when exactly he started working on Iron man but it was probably around 2006-2007) it was different time back then. Today with this whole metoo movement it is different. Although it sucks that mere allegations can get someone sacked (I'm not defending Majors because it seems that he did some bad stuff, just taking in generals). And for RDJ stay with marvel was also stay of his whole redemption arc in Hollywood.

    • @NathanialAshtier
      @NathanialAshtier 2 місяці тому

      ​@@oskarskalski2982 They still clown him about what he did. He was very destructive in and out of court. He might feel a certain way about it, but he did it. And even though they gave him the Oscar they all made fun of him at more than half of the award ceremonies he showed up to last year.
      Given that there was just One court case for Majors and liabitly was a bit unclear, it would be nice if the same grace was extended to the Black man. Even if they clown him like RDJ, he still should be able to work. But what do I know. I expect people to be consistent, but that seems to be asking a lot.

    • @NathanialAshtier
      @NathanialAshtier 2 місяці тому

      @@oskarskalski2982
      Detailed List of Incidents
      1996
      * June 23, 1996: Arrested for possession of heroin, cocaine, and an unloaded .357 Magnum handgun after being stopped for speeding on Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles. He was also found with an unloaded firearm in his vehicle.
      * June 28, 1996: Arrested for trespassing after being found passed out in the bed of a neighbor's child in Malibu. He had wandered into the neighbor's home while under the influence of drugs.
      1997
      * December 8, 1997: Sentenced to six months in the Los Angeles County Jail for violating probation by missing required drug tests.
      1999
      * July 16, 1999: Sentenced to three years in a California state prison for repeated probation violations, including failing to take drug tests.
      * August 1999: Transferred to the California Substance Abuse Treatment Facility and State Prison in Corcoran, where he spent nearly a year.
      2000
      * November 25, 2000: Arrested in a Palm Springs hotel room after police received an anonymous tip. He was found with cocaine and methamphetamine.
      2001
      * April 24, 2001: Arrested for suspicion of being under the influence of drugs after being found wandering barefoot in Culver City.
      * July 2001: Placed on three years probation and ordered to undergo drug rehabilitation as part of a plea bargain for the Palm Springs charges.
      * July 16, 2001: Fired from the TV show "Ally McBeal" following his April arrest.
      * August 2001: Sentenced to a year in a drug treatment program and three years of probation after pleading no contest to the Palm Springs charges.

  • @BazReviews
    @BazReviews 2 місяці тому

    The new SC tee shirt should be Deadpool coming off the cross and RDJ looking up at it as Deadpool says “That was fast.”

  • @marcusyates3044
    @marcusyates3044 2 місяці тому +5

    Robert Downey Jr., I know you won't bring me down

    • @Situaties
      @Situaties 2 місяці тому +2

      Robert don’t bring me Downey Junior

  • @dudewithachannel1163
    @dudewithachannel1163 2 місяці тому

    "New mask, same task."
    "I see a suit of armor around the world."

  • @ChicagoBornPilsenBred21
    @ChicagoBornPilsenBred21 2 місяці тому +4

    Iron Man: Demon in an armor #1

  • @frankkadar3897
    @frankkadar3897 2 місяці тому +2

    They said he's going to be VICTOR VON DOOM. He is not going to be a Stark variant.

  • @jakepistolero
    @jakepistolero 2 місяці тому +3

    i dont think he is a variant of stark. but i do think they are cosmicly connected. like, for every jesus figure tony, there is a secret wars level villain doom

    • @boosiecxrdigan2516
      @boosiecxrdigan2516 2 місяці тому +1

      i agree with that, but im also open to stark being variant of doom i feel like there a lot of cool moments and conflicts that could come out of it

  • @augustwalsh
    @augustwalsh 2 місяці тому +2

    What’s new is that Ryan Arey needs to play Dr Doom’s Rhodey

  • @reezydrips_drips6823
    @reezydrips_drips6823 2 місяці тому +4

    This is gonna be legendary it all started with Ryan Reynolds. Now you got Robert Downey Jr as doctor doom and the Russo Brothers directing both of the new avengers movie this cannot go wrong👏🔥 and Hugh

    • @viviorko
      @viviorko 2 місяці тому +4

      It started with Kevin Feige. Who makes the decisions.
      Don’t pretend it’s anyone else.

    • @wilmaso
      @wilmaso 2 місяці тому +2

      Naw it started with blade​@viviorko

    • @viviorko
      @viviorko 2 місяці тому +1

      @@wilmaso Howard the Duck baby! Quack in the chat if you feel me!

    • @reezydrips_drips6823
      @reezydrips_drips6823 2 місяці тому

      @@wilmaso yeah I was gonna say that too. I mean, like the comeback, even though blade was just in the Deadpool wolverine movie,

    • @ZyliceLiddell
      @ZyliceLiddell 2 місяці тому

      How did it start Ryan Reynolds lol?

  • @barraganemmanuel
    @barraganemmanuel 2 місяці тому +1

    A Tony that sees all his variants die saving the world, only for bigger bads to come after. So he decides that won’t be his doom.

  • @homebattleoffice5140
    @homebattleoffice5140 2 місяці тому +17

    Why is this so hard for y'all to comprehend... Chris Evans is the PRIME EXAMPLE, HE PLAYED JOHNNY STORMM AND STEVE ROGERS. TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHARACTERS THEY JUST LOOKED THE SAME. DOOM IS OBVIOUSLY FROM ANOTHER UNIVERSE WHICH IS WHY HE LOOKS LIKE TONY STARK. HES NOT A VARIANT OF TONY, HE'S DOOM, THEY JUST LOOK ALIKE. GOD DAMN

    • @rptjslll3296
      @rptjslll3296 2 місяці тому +2

      So odd. Why makes things confusion for no reason.

    • @rorycalhoun5431
      @rorycalhoun5431 2 місяці тому +6

      Two different studios. Two totally different situations. 😂

    • @homebattleoffice5140
      @homebattleoffice5140 2 місяці тому

      @@rptjslll3296 how is this confusing, doom comes from another universe to conquer this one but he looks like Tony Stark. That's all you need to know.

    • @superheroes_nard
      @superheroes_nard 2 місяці тому +2

      @homebattleoffice5140 you're logic doesn't make sense with Chris Evans. First of all, both character different studios and 2nd is as fun cameo. That's one thing, but making him the main villain of a saga is another thing. If your logic is right the Chris Evans's Johnny should be in the new FF movie as Johnny and lead the franchise. Then, it would make more sense on your logic.

    • @radbuffman3487
      @radbuffman3487 2 місяці тому +3

      Whoa, chill.

  • @nicholasgarrick8855
    @nicholasgarrick8855 2 місяці тому +1

    A Deadpool and loki link up would break the Internet 😯.

  • @SmashBrosAssemble
    @SmashBrosAssemble 2 місяці тому +6

    The reaction to RDJ as Dr. Doom just shows how naive people are, they actually thought Robert Downey Jr wasn’t going to come back to the MCU eventually.

    • @wilmaso
      @wilmaso 2 місяці тому +3

      Ahh yess you're a true visionary

    • @godson200
      @godson200 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah and what's even more irritating to me is people can't accept that rdj can play anything other than iron man.
      They be asking for cilian Murphy why?
      And afterall it can be a variant anyways.. Henry Cavill just played wolverine, Chris Evans just played human torch.
      Nobody really talking about all this? Hell even hugh Jackman came out of retirement 7 years later.. so, it's only fair that rdj makes his return 7 years later in 2026(2019-26)

    • @himynameisjohn
      @himynameisjohn 2 місяці тому

      No, they just didn't expect him to play a random, different character lol

  • @retror.d.1630
    @retror.d.1630 2 місяці тому +2

    Iron Man playing an iconic villain like this is a terrible idea. We have not even gotten the original Doctor Doom, but we are getting a freaking variant?! Stop twisting yourself into pretzels explaining this stupid idea! 😡

  • @likeluptid
    @likeluptid 2 місяці тому +17

    It was a terrible mistake, a dumb one, to kill Iron Man. Colton is gonna find that a whole lot of people, including me, won't like replacing Iron Man with Dr Doom, not even as Infamous Iron Man. They should cast a new actor to be Doom, not RDJ. And according to a lot of rumors, the RDJ announcement is a misdirect; Viggo Mortensen is supposedly the actor who really is under contract to be Dr Doom. I hope that this rumor is true.

    • @godson200
      @godson200 2 місяці тому

      Rdj plays a small variant, and a small cameo in the movie.
      And anyone else can play iron man as you like in a vast multiverse.

    • @fodetoure1576
      @fodetoure1576 2 місяці тому +3

      Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh 😭

    • @homebattleoffice5140
      @homebattleoffice5140 2 місяці тому +2

      He's not a variant, he's from another universe. He's doom but not 616 doom

    • @Steveincorp
      @Steveincorp 2 місяці тому

      RDJ was paid 75 million for Endgame. No wonder every Marvel movie and show hasn't been good. Most of the money went to and will go to RDJ. That is the reason they killed him off.

    • @likeluptid
      @likeluptid 2 місяці тому +1

      @homebattleoffice5140 Whatever you want to call it, the point is still the same. Marvel disserviced itself when killing Iron Man. And it's possible that there is more truth in the rumor of Viggo Mortensen being Dr Doom than there is in the official announcement directly from Marvel that RDJ will be Iron Man.
      You don't know what a "variant" is.

  • @jm2621
    @jm2621 2 місяці тому +1

    Spider-Man animated series
    Doom: which one of you ever wanted to give up their super power
    Spider-Man: I have, because time and time again I have learned that with great power, comes great responsibility.

  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo 2 місяці тому +1

    Since the Fantastic Four First Steps film is still in pre-production, I think you're right that this Doom-Tony variant could live in that universe. While Galactus and Silver Surfer will still be the main antagonists, maybe Doom will show up in a post-credit scene.

  • @Christian-lb2vi
    @Christian-lb2vi 2 місяці тому

    A lot of good points made in this video. It’s an absolutely genius move to bring back Downey as an evil Ironman variant to finish out this saga, but aside from his ties to Secret Wars and the fact that this reveal made a killer comicon announcement(that completely overshadowed the great opening weekend D&W had) there’s no reason to drag Dr. Doom into this. Theoretically we probably get him for these two Avengers movies and then the role is recast when the universe reboots after Secret Wars. It makes so much more sense for him to play a Superior Ironman from Earth 838. Wouldn’t be surprised if we never see that universe again though.

  • @SteveMcT
    @SteveMcT 2 місяці тому

    I was already on board, but Colton really makes good points

  • @gabriel-rileydrouin8669
    @gabriel-rileydrouin8669 2 місяці тому +1

    They also said at the panel they needed the perfect actor to play Victor Von Doom, not just Dr. Doom, so I don't think it will be a true Tony variant and will be named Victor Von Doom.

  • @Hason179
    @Hason179 2 місяці тому +2

    Ill have to disagree there with Colton, because who he's describing isn't doom but rather superior ironman, making doom a variant of Tony would totally wash away the history that og doom has and his motivations to begin with

  • @ajmoreno76
    @ajmoreno76 2 місяці тому

    @comics_explained has an outstanding video about this very subject and how it happened previously in the comics.

  • @peronkindred7479
    @peronkindred7479 2 місяці тому

    I should never read the comments, but you inspired me to make a channel. I love your intellect knowledge on subjects thank you for inspiring me.

  • @Magnificent_V
    @Magnificent_V 2 місяці тому

    Doug you’re learning so much! 🥹

  • @gerard721
    @gerard721 2 місяці тому +1

    Maybe Tony Dr DOOM will convince other timeliness to destroy the 616 universe because they time travel to change the past.

  • @BigrookieMER
    @BigrookieMER 2 місяці тому

    Iron Man as Dr. Doom? I'm all for it!

  • @inaxoxoxo2664
    @inaxoxoxo2664 2 місяці тому

    I've been watching these other videos and reading articles decrying RDJ as Doom...I was beginning to feel a bit apprehensive about my future theater-going experiences! Your video made me feel better. Thanks!

  • @eh2396
    @eh2396 2 місяці тому +2

    If Doom was so integral to the secret wars story then why in tf did they try to make Kang the big baddie?? Why didn't they start building up the hype with Doom years ago then??

  • @ericmills7401
    @ericmills7401 2 місяці тому +1

    Tony was adopted, right? What if he was kidnapped as a baby and dropped off at the starks or shield removed him from his family to prevent a continuation of the families blood line. This variant could be tony if he stayed with his true family. Its a farfetched idea but it could be true.

    • @sebakdulal2433
      @sebakdulal2433 2 місяці тому

      Nad blud you can watch endgame where when tony meet Howard stark back in time he said his wife is pregnant meaning he is not adopted

  • @kylecarter1599
    @kylecarter1599 2 місяці тому +1

    Doom would never sacrifice himself. His pride wouldn't allow him to not see the fruits of his labor.

  • @stevenkilboy1319
    @stevenkilboy1319 2 місяці тому

    Damn I love a good tremors clip, thanks guys.

  • @lotsofstuff9645
    @lotsofstuff9645 2 місяці тому

    It will be interesting to see TS’s daughter face Doom who looks just like her dad

  • @TenheadLife
    @TenheadLife 2 місяці тому

    Always love your episodes Ryan

  • @arvelcrynyd6311
    @arvelcrynyd6311 2 місяці тому +2

    I profusely dislike the “DOOM as a Tony variant” theory, it’s just awful and disrespectful to the DOOM character. I’m not super fond of this stunt casting in the first place, but I’d be more alright with it if DOOM is disguised as Tony or is from a different universe and just happens to look like Tony, so he can infiltrate the Avengers and crush them from within.

    • @arvelcrynyd6311
      @arvelcrynyd6311 2 місяці тому

      It’d be on-brand for DOOM to find a universe where he looks just like Tony Stark so he can destroy the Avengers. But I do agree DOOM has similarities to Tony. He’s Iron Man plus Doc Strange.

  • @limelightcapital7958
    @limelightcapital7958 2 місяці тому +2

    How did Colton write this episode if he's eternally trapped in the TV Ryan?

  • @jonhughes4968
    @jonhughes4968 2 місяці тому

    Absolutely love the tremors reference 😂 that's exactly how I feel about it

  • @DredgensVein
    @DredgensVein 2 місяці тому

    He immediately oxymoronicly stated his point in the beginning

  • @A.ICraft
    @A.ICraft 2 місяці тому +1

    NEW MASK and SAME TASK.
    SO TONY CONTINUES HIS TASK AS DOOM.
    I THINK THAT'S LIKE A HINT.
    DOOM CONSIDERS HIMSELF A HERO TOO.

  • @jeffhobbs3366
    @jeffhobbs3366 2 місяці тому

    Imagine getting a solo Doctor Doom film with RDJ. A movie just focused on Doom! No Fantastic 4, no secret wars, no iron man, just DOOM!