Strange, Spidey, Sam Wilson's Cap, Joaquin Torres's Falcon, Shuri, All the Thunderbolts, Deadpool, Wolverine, Young Avengers, The Marvels, White Vision, Wanda(at least in Secret Wars), Hulk, She-Hulk, Shang-Chi, *WONG*, Moon Knight, Blade(if that still is a possibility).
Shuri lost her father, brother and mother and was blipped as well. Her and Thor are prime candidates to succumb to Doom’s promises of seeing their families again.
2:40 "Sam Wilson was never an official Avenger..." but he was an official Avenger, during the time between Age of Ultron and Civil War (AoU literally ends with the new Avengers line-up (Captain America, Black Widow, Vision, War Machine, Scarlet Witch and Falcon) in the new Avengers Compound, he appears as an Avenger defending it's base on his cameo in Ant-Man and was working as an Avengers in the Lagos mission during Civil War)
In the context of what Ryan was saying...I think he only considered the original six Avengers as official Avengers. But you're absolutely right, Sam Wilson has been an official Avenger.
Yeah, he was at the compound after Age of Ultron and he was part of Steve's strike team in the beginning of Civil War. Those two scenes were where they established the new team and that they've been training under Steve and Natasha. Sam was also on the run with Steve and Natasha after Civil War so he was technically part of the "Secret Avengers" team that never got a movie. A Secret Avengers movie about Steve, Sam and Natasha on the run but also saving the world from like AIM or something, could have been awesome.
I love the idea of Adam Warlock joining the Avengers for Doomsday. Crazy stuff going down, Adam gets a lot of development, then next time he sees the Guardians, Rocket's just like, "the hell happened to you?" 😂
It wasn’t just the CG for She-Hulk… it ABSOLUTELY was the scripts. It’s delusional to think that was good writing (“you don’t know what it’s like to be angry” and such. Truly.) But she was well acted. With different writers, the character has MCU potential.
They could absolutely revamp the character, something severe has to happen for her character to change and shift a lot and the bad rep might hold fans from accepting the newer version of her, but if her reputation changes, it could be an opportunity
Hard pass on she hulk and it seems disney agrees finally. It's ok that people enjoyed her show but numbers wise most people did not. Same as with some people in Germany ok with the Nazis while majority of the world did not
The new characters have not landed and people want to original Avengers or what’s left of them. I think we’ll see Hulk in New World Order. The other main OG’s left are; Thor and Hawkeye. Other extended team members are Spiderman, Wong and Shuri. The one new character that hit is Shang Chi.
@@juliusjean-baptiste924they both effectively wield infinity stones; they're on the same level of power but a reality manipulator (scarlet witch) will always be able to beat a flying brick (capt marvel) so long as they're not surprised or exhausted.
he was bland and boring. We need Thor, Doctor Strange, Captain America, SPiderman, Hulk(not shehulk) and Black Panther or War Machine. Winter SOldier is in his own team, but better to have Deadpool and Wolverine in Secret Wars. NO miss Marvel, NO Captain Marvel, NO Photon, NO War Machine, NO SHEHULK, NO Moon Knight, these were very unpopular shows and nobody cares for them, this is why Marvels BOMBED. Studios want PROFITS, and Miss Marvel and Shehulk will never be part of the films team, theyll just cameo in it.
@@Immortal_LibertyI think Ms Marvel would be accepted more in an Avengers setting with her chemistry with Spider-Man. Being attached to Captain Marvel hurt her likability with a bunch of folks. The character and the actress that plays her are fun and passionate, so I think she deserves a chance.
@@jay-bo3206 spiderman is not in the mcu. He got written out with the spell of forgetting him by all. Sony owns him and they refuse to use spiderman. No spidey, no miss marvel. No kate bishop hawkeye, no iron heart iron man, no cap marvel, no america Chavez from doctor atrange. No shehulk. No moon knight. None of them will be in the actual team.
@@zero_x93 Hope's wasp debuting in AMATW is the biggest films in that franchise. They should've used her character more in Endgame, Infinity War, and even debuted her in Civil War. The fact they overlooked... that was a big misstep not to elevate her character.
"Sam Wilson was never like oficial Avenger..." Ryan, you might wanna go watch end of Avengers: Age of Ultron and begining of Captain America: Civil war.
And I totally agree with Colton I think his name is. Bringing America Shavez in would just blur the lines to much and multiverse the shit out of a good grounded team.
I think we’ll see him in a Ten Rings Disney+ show. China doesn’t like Simu Liu and director Destin Daniel Cretton so the movie would anyways won’t release in China that’s why Disney isn’t making Shang Chi 2.
Imo the core avengers should be Captain America (Sam), shang chi (with the 10 rings, i love them), Spider-Man, captain marvel, black panther (shuri) & hawkeye (kate bishop)
When Shang Chi was an Avenger (Time Runs Out) Stark gave him tech upgrades, so the 10 Rings are NOT stupid, but I like the idea of him being away from the rings & having to "just" use his ridiculous skills.
@Soulskiez Yeah, it's a simple fix. There's nothing wrong with him having super weapons, as he does in the comics, but like Cap with his shield and Thor with his hammer, Spidey & webs, etc. etc. making a character fight without works wonders, too. Plus, more of the "every type of martial arts movie in one thing" would be greatly appreciated.
She-Hulk will not be in the team cause of the negativity her TV show got from plenty of people. Personally i wouldn't mind if they add her in BUT it's not gonna happen 90%
Marvel is heII bent on giving people exactly what they say they DONT want. So I’m expecting her to be in it even tho I would troll & they know it, they just don’t care
film would BOMB hard. Even Marvels flopped hard, as did shehulk show and miss marvel...moon knight too..invasion...so those wont be part of avengers. studios want profit! ANT MAN, WASP, THOR, DOCTOR STRANGE, CAP AMERICA, HULK BANNER, BLACK PANTHER....those will be your team,the rest will help out a bit.
1:Captain America 2: Wong 3: Banner 4: Shung-Chi 5: Spiderman 6: Valkyrie OR do they just join up with The Young Avengers and make a big New Avengers team? Assuming Captain Marvel is looking for Photon, we’d have Ms Marvel, Kate Bishop, Iron Heart, Black Panther all available as “Earth based heroes” for Rhodie (the new Fury) and Wong to gather. Plus don’t forget: F4 will be in AV5Doomsday to augment the team.
8:31 "90% of the reason she-hulk wasn't well-received wasn't the scripts, it was just those poor VFX artists being stretched so thin." dumbest fucking sentence ever said GG
Well, the Thunderbolts are all earth-based characters. And if the Sentry and Hyperion are going to be the main antagonists of that film before becoming protagonists to help during Secret Wars, those two characters would be the biggest defense earth has and would make great additions to the new Avengers lineup after they get rehabilitated.
Ryan, I love Screencrush and by far you're the best host of the channel. I'm a Neurologist who specializes in Movement Disorders in Southern Brazil and I couldn't help but notice your repetitive blinking. Have you considered seeing a Neurologist in your city? It could be blepharospasm, bliking tics in Tourette's Syndrome or even early Meige's Sybdrome. Whatever the case, I hope you get things under control and get well soon.
Really hoping they dedicate the time to flesh out the chemistry between the characters on the new Avengers team. We need to see them all interact and bond and actually be friends like how the OG team were in Age of Ultron.
@@jonw8694 Thor has been an Avenger since Day 1. He's always been there when there's been an earth level threat. Doesn't need to be earthbound for that. Captain Marvel can be earth or space bound as well. Just depends on her duties cuz she doesn't work for SWORD in MCU like she did in the comics or even Avengers EMH.
Wanda! As much as I’d love that, I think it makes much more sense that she’ll be more of a key to the reality warping of Battle World, and will be a big save for everyone at the end of this all, redeeming her character and setting her back on the hero path. And hopefully, reunited with Vision and her kids.
*My Core 7 Avengers -* Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Captain America, Thor, Deadpool (the guy can literally jump to 616 whenever he wants), Captain Marvel and She-Hulk.
This conversation validates my concern about Marvel’s next two Avengers films! How are we making Avengers films without a cemented, fan-beloved Avengers team? There hasn’t been an established team since End Game.
Bruce explaining the importance of the island to Jennifer....Tony and Bruce's whole science bros thing leading Tony to give Bruce a whole island to keep him calm
I believe that what most people don't understand about the difference between Bruce Banner and cousin Jennifer is that in the comics, when we had Smart Hulk, he would lose his temper and transform into Puny Banner with the raging personality. This is because of his childhood trauma in the comics. This seems to be the same in the MCU. Jennifer doesn't have these issues, so it usually doesn't make her turn into the rage monster.
I enjoyed she hulk enough, it was decent, but saying 90 % of the problem with the show was the cgi is just asinine. The overall story was pretty weak, the humor was very hit or miss, and like all the Disney plus shows so far it needed more breathing room and longer episodes to further flesh out the characters.
This is my list: Sam Wilson (Captain America) She Hulk Sang Chi Moon Knight Shuri Black Panther Spiderman I would love to see a cosmic team: Thor Doctor strange Captain Marvel Loki Scarlet Witch Jane Foster Young Avengers: America Chavez Kate Bishop Cassie Lang Iron heart Eli Bradley Skaar (Hulk son)
Thor said in the first Thor movie he comes from a place where magic and science are one in the same. Is safe to assume on some level that is a universal thing in the MCU
Shang Chi WITH HIS RINGS, War Machine, Ant Man AND The Wasp, She Hulk, Captain America, and America Chavez. If not Chavez then Shuri. But America seems like a good choice being that she’s mystical anddd multiversal. And White Vision
there's no way she hulk would be in both avengers movies , deadpool would be with avengers and he will be the one who will break the fourth wall if needed not she-hulk. my pick would be sentry , if they don't nerfed him in the thunderbolts
SHE-HULK is definitely gonna be on the team. Agreed the She-Hulk show wasn’t very good, but the character of Jennifer Walters/She-Hulk brilliantly played by Tatiana Maslany is too amazing not be in the team.
@@shubhangbahadur7112 it wasnt all that bro, she wasnt amazing, she was mid. shes probably going to be in the movies but i hope she has a smaller role to make place for actually interesting funny heroes
Deadpool is in a parallel universe, while I definitely see him in the movie it'll be difficult to ignore She-Hulk. Even Ruffalo has been saying she'll return.
Guys, how did 2/3 of you pick Diet Hulk, 2/3 picked the Marvel Goonies cast (America and Ms. Marvel), and the only 1 who picked Shang-Chi only wants him if he’s neutered???? STOP ASKING MARVEL FOR MEDIOCRITY OR DISNEY WILL GRANT YOUR REQUEST
I just dont understand why they think Tenrings is stupid. Shangchi could be badass with those but these ppl are inexplicable with Shangchi comment, saying Shehulk problem was just vfx, wanting Peache machine instead of Love machine and to outright not even mention Dr Strange
My line up: 1. Captain America Sam Wilson 2. Spider-Man 3. Thor 4. Moon night 5. Shang Chi 6. War Machine And ones I wanna see: 7. Star Lord 8. Hulk Bruce banner 9. Dare Devil 10. Deadpool Definitely the coolest line up. Not realistic though.
There not being an Avengers team in the comics is what led to the formation of the Thunderbolts, Young Avengers, and New Avengers, at different points in time. That's what's been happening in the multiverse saga, lots of setup for those new teams, resulting in a new main team at the end.
But with the new changes, from the looks of it, we won’t be getting a Midnight Sons or Young Avengers movie, even though marvel has spent all this time trying to set them up, only for them to want skip straight to the Avengers movies and reset everything. Doomsday comes out very soon after F4, and there’s no space for either of those movies. They’re not even making a “New Avengers” movie, they’re making an Infinity War/Endgame-styled crossover movie, without even having a couple of lower-stakes Avengers/Age of Ultron-type films, where we can actually be introduced to and get to know this new team. If they wanted, they could’ve made the Multiverse Saga 10 years long like the Infinity Saga and produce much more movies and tv shows to properly build up to this massive crossover.
This should be setting up different pockets of the MCU. Street Level MCU - The Defenders Space Level MCU - Captain Marvel, Guardians, Thor World Level MCU - The Avengers Supernatural/Magic/Horror Level MCU - Dr Strange, MoonKnight, Blade, Scarlet Witch, etc Politics level MCU - X-Men ? - F4 Don't know how to classify the F4.
@@juliusjean-baptiste924 for the multiverse saga, there can also be a "multiverse level MCU" which would include the F4 atm (+ loki and what if..?). but when the mcu reboots the F4 will prob be world/space/multiverse level, or all of them at different points in time - they protect new york, research and travel through space as well as research the multiverse, so they can be part of all of them. maybe it can start with world level, then evolve into space and multiverse level for the crossover event for the next saga. but at the end of the day, marvel seemed to be too ambitious with this "multi-story" plan with a superhero team for each corner of the MCU, since they're abandoning it just so they can rush to the avengers movies and end the multiverse saga, and reboot the entire mcu. maybe they're saving these plans for after secret wars, but they'll prob just be focusing on the x-men and f4, not the midnight sons or young avengers.
This was really good! I think I would go with: Sam Wilson, Shang-Chi, Spiderman, She-Hulk, Shuri and Scott Lang. I would also rename them the Savengers.
The team has to be a team that will make sense to know each other. Captain America (Sam Wilson) Bucky Barnes (Sam knows him and will bring him) Black Panther (Shuri) Ant-man She-Hulk (professor Hulk will tell Sam to put her on the team because He can to take care of his son) Wasp (She was part of the original team on the comics)
Captain America, black panther, spider man, wolverine, ahmg chi, Adam warlock, with appearances from dr hulk, dr strange (very brief and funny), starlord (at the end). Also I love an appearance from war machine and he’s with shield now. Great pic yall about nailed it.
My list kind of tries to fill the roles of the original 6: 1. You have to have a Captain America ‘Sam Wilson.’ 2. Star Lord, A charismatic guy who needs the team more than the team needs him but doesn’t know it yet like Stark 3. Captain Marvel, cosmically capable powerhouse to replace Thor but done in a way without nerfing her power or having her absent for 2/3 of the film 4 & 5. Ant-Man and The Wasp. Replacing Clint and Natasha. Can do infiltration spy stuff. Also, OG comic avengers. 6. Shang Chi. Feels like he has no place at first, connect him personally to the big bad (Thor&Loki, Stark&Ultron) No rings at first until the big showdown (like when Bruce shows up at the end of Avengers), then uses the rings in the battle but for a reason. Wildcard 7. Wanda, because duh…
I appreciate how you guys gave out love to the underappreciated Marvel characters. I get tired of people downing Marvel. I have liked everything Marvel has put out.
SC doesn't want Thor on the Avengers and thinks he's too OP?! This is the mutiverse saga with Dr Doom... If anything, they absolutely need him. He's also probably one of, if not the only person that can bring the audience back in that left after Endgame. I love Thor and so does almost everyone else even if Taika Waititi is so dumb and screwed up Love and Thunder BAD. Made Thor look like a fool the whole time basically. I hate what the director did to that movie, but I love Thor still. RDJ is right. He IS the house now especially since Chris Even's cap and Iron Man are out. They need Thor in on this and gain a lot of momentum back if done properly, which I trust the Russo brothers with these 2 Avengers films. Infinity War was damn near perfect. Also, you think Shang Chi's ten rings are stupid?! I just can't with this guy anymore. Even the other 2 didn't comment on him calling the rings stupid because they aren't. Also, Ms Marvel sucks and will be a part of the young Avengers along with Kate Bishop and Ant-man's daughter. Shang Chi was clearly brought in to be an Avenger via Wong and his portal discussing the rings with Banner and I think Cpt Marvel? I think, I can't remember. Besides, who's to say the Avengers is a 6 person group?! Did you even watch Infinity Wars and Endgame?! As well as "Star Lord" is coming back but the GoTG arc is over, so he's probably going to go look for purpose and bring that funny/goofy and stupid persona to the team. These guys and their takes are crap for the most part. Also, She Hulk?! No god please f*** no unless they make her more fierce and polished personality wise. much more realistic CGI. The 2 I for sure do agree with is Shuri as black panther and Sam as the new cap. Was hoping for Yelena to take Natasha's place as black widow because she's her sister and a black widow as well, but we'll see where thunderbolts goes via story conclusion. Maybe in Secret Wars. Sorry, buddy. I'm un-subbing. Too many trash takes and weird videos lately. Too many videos I wish I didn't watch wasting my time.
I was gonna say, everyone forgot about Kate Bishop. That’s the best new character introduced on a Disney plus show. Need to see her and Yelena on screen together again.
I wholeheartedly believed that the point of the Disney+ shows was to set up the West Coast Avengers either in movie or series, so I think some of those characters would be reserved for that. Also, I'm looking for She-Hulk to be in the Fantastic Four Movie, and join at the end when The Thing leaves. West Coast Avengers: Hawkeye Mockingbird Iron Man - Red/White Armor (Rhodey) Wonder Man (Vision) Scarlet Witch Moon Knight *U.S.Agent Avengers: Ant-Man (Scott Lang) Wasp (Hope Van Dyne) Gi-antman/Goliath (Hank Pym) Photon Cap/Falcon Black Knight *Winter Soldier
For my new Avengers team I'd include: - Yelena (there's always have to be a Black Widow) - Captain Marvel (I get it, she's OP, but come on if the enemy is Doctor Doom, Kang or Galactus, they need someone like Wanda or Carol to level the playing field) - Shang-Chi - Spider-man - (the new) Captain (Falcon) America - Thor - Ant-Man & The Wasp - Hawkeye (Kate Bishop) - She-Hulk and Hulk With dozens of supporting heroes as well, but these would be the main ones. And when they bring Wanda back, I'd add her to the team (though I don't know if they're planning on doing that, as I feel like a lot of people think she needs to redeem herself before being accepted into the hero team).
Really enjoyed this episode! My picks: Sam Wilson, Peter Parker, LTC Rhodes, Jennifer Walters, Shaun Shang-Chi, Peter Quill. Supporting cast that I’d love the Avengers to work with on the big screen: Daredevil, Moonknight, Black Panther, Cable.
Cap, War Machine, Shang Chi, She Hulk, Hawkeye, and Black Panther. Ms. Marvel should do a teamup with Spider-Man, they are friends in the comics and they've both been to space and are still youngish, it could be a good dynamic
Who do YOU want to see on the NEW Avengers lineup?
I think about 5 people care about the MCU at this point, or is it 6?
Strange, Spidey, Sam Wilson's Cap, Joaquin Torres's Falcon, Shuri, All the Thunderbolts, Deadpool, Wolverine, Young Avengers, The Marvels, White Vision, Wanda(at least in Secret Wars), Hulk, She-Hulk, Shang-Chi, *WONG*, Moon Knight, Blade(if that still is a possibility).
Spider-Man
Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Thor, Deadpool (the guy can literally jump to 616 whenever he wants), Captain Marvel and She-Hulk.
I think Ned would be great for a new avengers line up or in the young avengers definitely 👍
Shuri lost her father, brother and mother and was blipped as well. Her and Thor are prime candidates to succumb to Doom’s promises of seeing their families again.
only reason why i think they wont is because both of them believe in the after life and they will be reunited
Thor maybe not as he's responsible for Gorrs daughter
Doom with the smoke monster plot..🧐😮😁 I LIKE IT!!!
and peter honestly cause he looks like tony so it coulc influence peter in some way
@@itzthundertv his aunt mae did die in the last movie.
2:40 "Sam Wilson was never an official Avenger..." but he was an official Avenger, during the time between Age of Ultron and Civil War (AoU literally ends with the new Avengers line-up (Captain America, Black Widow, Vision, War Machine, Scarlet Witch and Falcon) in the new Avengers Compound, he appears as an Avenger defending it's base on his cameo in Ant-Man and was working as an Avengers in the Lagos mission during Civil War)
Immediately thought the same thing! Can’t believe he missed that! He was a huge part in the Lagos mission which you mentioned
In the context of what Ryan was saying...I think he only considered the original six Avengers as official Avengers. But you're absolutely right, Sam Wilson has been an official Avenger.
Yeah, he was at the compound after Age of Ultron and he was part of Steve's strike team in the beginning of Civil War.
Those two scenes were where they established the new team and that they've been training under Steve and Natasha.
Sam was also on the run with Steve and Natasha after Civil War so he was technically part of the "Secret Avengers" team that never got a movie.
A Secret Avengers movie about Steve, Sam and Natasha on the run but also saving the world from like AIM or something, could have been awesome.
@@KtownMisfit1975 I mean they definitely watch the movies mate.
@@KtownMisfit1975they 1000% watch the movies. They have way too much knowledge to not have for their jobs, even if they make mistakes
I love the idea of Adam Warlock joining the Avengers for Doomsday. Crazy stuff going down, Adam gets a lot of development, then next time he sees the Guardians, Rocket's just like, "the hell happened to you?" 😂
We need some OP characters like Adam I'm sick of Hawkeye
Makes no sense for Adam to be a new Avenger when he just became a new Guardian.
By the time we get to young avengers, the actors will be in their 40s
Not really something most fans want anyway. Their performances have been very lackluster at best
@@starsick7not true & it’s the script not the actors
@@princecheck11 both
I don't want to see the version they're giving us. If ironlad isn't on the team I don't want it especially not with iron heart
Marvel need to hurry the hell up! Lots of us v excited to finally see the young avengers but this is taking so damn long
It wasn’t just the CG for She-Hulk… it ABSOLUTELY was the scripts. It’s delusional to think that was good writing (“you don’t know what it’s like to be angry” and such. Truly.)
But she was well acted. With different writers, the character has MCU potential.
They could absolutely revamp the character, something severe has to happen for her character to change and shift a lot and the bad rep might hold fans from accepting the newer version of her, but if her reputation changes, it could be an opportunity
Somehow i don't think "Peace Machine" is going to strike fear in the hearts of his enemies.
But what if he loves peace, and will do anything to get it. No matter how many men, women and children he has to kill to get it? 😅. Marvels peacemaker
@@The_Infamous_BoogymanDO YOU REALLY WANNA DO YOU REALLY WANNA TASTE IT?!
How about Taserface 😅
Colton is a simp
I just hope Shang Chi, Moon Knight, She Hulk and Werewolf by Night have some more to do.
Hard pass on she hulk and it seems disney agrees finally. It's ok that people enjoyed her show but numbers wise most people did not. Same as with some people in Germany ok with the Nazis while majority of the world did not
@@starsick7 are you really comparing me liking She Hulk to people in Germany supporting Nazis?
@Carl_KFBF no. Just sayin the majority is what people go with. I could have used a better example I suppose
@@starsick7💀
The new characters have not landed and people want to original Avengers or what’s left of them. I think we’ll see Hulk in New World Order. The other main OG’s left are; Thor and Hawkeye. Other extended team members are Spiderman, Wong and Shuri. The one new character that hit is Shang Chi.
So Ryan you don’t want Captain Marvel because she is too powerful but you want ADAM WARLOCK instead? That’s kinda crazy
but to be fair adam has the mental age of a child so that nerfs him a bit
Isn’t Scarlett witch the most powerful already
@@franknoriega4417 She's Powerful but I don't think she's more powerful than Captain Marvel.
@@juliusjean-baptiste924they both effectively wield infinity stones; they're on the same level of power but a reality manipulator (scarlet witch) will always be able to beat a flying brick (capt marvel) so long as they're not surprised or exhausted.
Shang Chi is my favorite MCU movie. It is absolutely criminal not to have seen him again by now
They need to make the second movie.
he was bland and boring. We need Thor, Doctor Strange, Captain America, SPiderman, Hulk(not shehulk) and Black Panther or War Machine. Winter SOldier is in his own team, but better to have Deadpool and Wolverine in Secret Wars. NO miss Marvel, NO Captain Marvel, NO Photon, NO War Machine, NO SHEHULK, NO Moon Knight, these were very unpopular shows and nobody cares for them, this is why Marvels BOMBED. Studios want PROFITS, and Miss Marvel and Shehulk will never be part of the films team, theyll just cameo in it.
@@Immortal_LibertyI think Ms Marvel would be accepted more in an Avengers setting with her chemistry with Spider-Man. Being attached to Captain Marvel hurt her likability with a bunch of folks. The character and the actress that plays her are fun and passionate, so I think she deserves a chance.
@@Immortal_LibertyI agree. Shang Chi was wack. I didn’t find anything entertaining about it. It didn’t feel like a marvel movie at all
@@jay-bo3206 spiderman is not in the mcu. He got written out with the spell of forgetting him by all. Sony owns him and they refuse to use spiderman. No spidey, no miss marvel. No kate bishop hawkeye, no iron heart iron man, no cap marvel, no america Chavez from doctor atrange. No shehulk. No moon knight. None of them will be in the actual team.
What about the Wasp? After five Avengers films, she still has yet to join the team.
After the soft reboot, we should have her on the team as Janet.
because the wrote her as a dumb character.
@@zero_x93 Hope's wasp debuting in AMATW is the biggest films in that franchise. They should've used her character more in Endgame, Infinity War, and even debuted her in Civil War. The fact they overlooked... that was a big misstep not to elevate her character.
She was an Avenger in Endgame.
Ikr?! Especially since Wasp was basically the first Avenger in the comics. It was her idea to form a team to begin with!
"Sam Wilson was never like oficial Avenger..."
Ryan, you might wanna go watch end of Avengers: Age of Ultron and begining of Captain America: Civil war.
He’s saying the OG six avenger
Ryan in an extra silly goofy mood this vid, love it
If these are the Avengers, the world is screwed.
Truer words have never been spoken
Well said bro
You could always say we're DOOMED 😅 my bad, that's a bad joke🤣
Instant loss of all credit “ she hulk is one of the best hulk stories they ever told”. Not sure if it’s sad or I should laugh.
Has to be satire right? There’s no way that someone unironically said that
And I totally agree with Colton I think his name is. Bringing America Shavez in would just blur the lines to much and multiverse the shit out of a good grounded team.
I hope we see Shang Chi again
Why wouldn't we the character if fantastic they have to
He sucks worse than captian marvel.
I think we’ll see him in a Ten Rings Disney+ show. China doesn’t like Simu Liu and director Destin Daniel Cretton so the movie would anyways won’t release in China that’s why Disney isn’t making Shang Chi 2.
The lead actor confirmed its filming
I would rather see Spider-Man and Black Panther again
It was entirely the she hulk scripts. Break the delusion.
I think every Hulk fan disagrees with "His arc has already been told. " Ass kicked by Thanos, never becoming the Hulk again.
Sam Wilson, Peter Parker, Black Panther, Ant Man, She Hulk, Shang Chi
I really like these "round table" episodes. It's cool to see diverging views. It keeps my expectations open.
Sam was the 1st official Avenger after Rhodes. He was even guarding the Avengers facility, and listed as an Avenger in Civil War.
Imo the core avengers should be
Captain America (Sam), shang chi (with the 10 rings, i love them), Spider-Man, captain marvel, black panther (shuri) & hawkeye (kate bishop)
But not Iron Heart?
@@IAmMightyMike NO
@@IAmMightyMike who?
@@IAmMightyMikenever
They need Tchalla and no iron heart
When Shang Chi was an Avenger (Time Runs Out) Stark gave him tech upgrades, so the 10 Rings are NOT stupid, but I like the idea of him being away from the rings & having to "just" use his ridiculous skills.
Yeah they could continue that post credit scene in Shang chi where ruffalo and Wong keep investigating the rings while Shang chi fights without them.
@Soulskiez Yeah, it's a simple fix. There's nothing wrong with him having super weapons, as he does in the comics, but like Cap with his shield and Thor with his hammer, Spidey & webs, etc. etc. making a character fight without works wonders, too. Plus, more of the "every type of martial arts movie in one thing" would be greatly appreciated.
She-Hulk will not be in the team cause of the negativity her TV show got from plenty of people.
Personally i wouldn't mind if they add her in BUT it's not gonna happen 90%
Marvel is heII bent on giving people exactly what they say they DONT want. So I’m expecting her to be in it even tho I would troll & they know it, they just don’t care
She's a woman superhero tho
😂 her show was terrible a terrible joke
Colton buggin 😭😭
They must be variants from a universe where She Hulk was a completely different project, not made in spite and chronically online writers.
Ryan looks like that guy who stayed up all night and waited in line at the nearest electronic store to catch the first super Nintendo's....
When Ryan does that Simpsons nerd impression 🤣
The Avengers sidekicks need their own comedy series: Katy; Luis; Wong; Happy; Ned; Darcy and Korg.
film would BOMB hard. Even Marvels flopped hard, as did shehulk show and miss marvel...moon knight too..invasion...so those wont be part of avengers. studios want profit! ANT MAN, WASP, THOR, DOCTOR STRANGE, CAP AMERICA, HULK BANNER, BLACK PANTHER....those will be your team,the rest will help out a bit.
I would Love a Wong x Madisynn King spinoff
@@Immortal_Libertyhe said series not film
@@GrandAdmiralPosey whole video is about the damn avengers films and who the 6 members will be, noob
@@Immortal_Liberty lol definitely far from noob, you’re just someone who has lowered standards.
Thor works in the sense that the "New/Young" avengers have to find King Thor for help or something like that.
1:Captain America 2: Wong 3: Banner 4: Shung-Chi 5: Spiderman 6: Valkyrie
OR do they just join up with The Young Avengers and make a big New Avengers team? Assuming Captain Marvel is looking for Photon, we’d have Ms Marvel, Kate Bishop, Iron Heart, Black Panther all available as “Earth based heroes” for Rhodie (the new Fury) and Wong to gather. Plus don’t forget: F4 will be in AV5Doomsday to augment the team.
Colton needs to just come to terms with the fact that She Hulk was not good. The character was fine, the show was terrible.
Exactly. Not sure why he keeps saying it was a great show. How horribly would u want to please certain demographic to call that a good show 😂
Right?? Why would you fight for that show haha. It was objectively terrible
Shang Chi, Shuri, Wasp, She Hulk, ReVision, Captain America, and introduce Wonder Man as was done with Tom Holland in Civil War.
Wasp...
there should be someone who can perish on the team
Shuri will have to defend Wakanda and stuff,get Iron Heart on the team
11:08 did you say Ms Marvel has a lot of growth with a straight face??? 😂😂😂
Yeah, she has if you know that from a ground level hero has had in space experience is growth. Do you understand literary elements?
@@IAmMightyMike I think you may have slightly missed my meaning. She GROWS. That’s her power.
This was an amazing video. Great discussion. All perspectives were amazing and I love Colton’s takes. So creative.
Colton has to have some bad humor if he thinks she hulk was funny 😂
8:31 "90% of the reason she-hulk wasn't well-received wasn't the scripts, it was just those poor VFX artists being stretched so thin." dumbest fucking sentence ever said GG
You’re out of your mind that was the worst writing ever
@@adamblack6867 thats what even he was saying
She-Hulk was not well received because the CG was bad? Not the writing? THat is what I call being delusional.
If she's an avenger. I ain't watching these avenger movies. She's not worth it
The script the direction the acting were all terrible
I simply dont get why this channel doesn't want to believe SheHulk is a horrible horrible show. Just about everything about the show sucked
@Doman3500
Nobody cares about which films you watch or not.
@keerthichandra376 I was waiting each week for the story to mature and progress it didnt, it had no heart in the show.
Yooo Ryan's sarcasm is underrated 😂😂😂 i can tell he has some of the craziest jokes offline
Well, the Thunderbolts are all earth-based characters. And if the Sentry and Hyperion are going to be the main antagonists of that film before becoming protagonists to help during Secret Wars, those two characters would be the biggest defense earth has and would make great additions to the new Avengers lineup after they get rehabilitated.
Hyperion will be in the movie? I haven't seen any news saying that.
Thank you for this wonderful, funny talk! You three nerds nailed it, I laughed so hard 😂
Ryan, lets see an X-Men roster video as we'll see the first 199999 X-Men in Phase 7
Ryan's "Comic Book Guy" was hilarious. LOL
She Hulk? What's that? 🙄
Ryan, I love Screencrush and by far you're the best host of the channel. I'm a Neurologist who specializes in Movement Disorders in Southern Brazil and I couldn't help but notice your repetitive blinking. Have you considered seeing a Neurologist in your city? It could be blepharospasm, bliking tics in Tourette's Syndrome or even early Meige's Sybdrome. Whatever the case, I hope you get things under control and get well soon.
All those characters suck, this is where it all falls apart. Better get Deadpool and the X-men introduced ASAP bc this team is running on fumes.
DCU is about to Superman punch the MCU's b-team into oblvion 🤷
Really hoping they dedicate the time to flesh out the chemistry between the characters on the new Avengers team. We need to see them all interact and bond and actually be friends like how the OG team were in Age of Ultron.
Thor. Doctor Strange. Loki. Hulk. Spiderman. Captain America (Falcon). Shang Chi.
Thor isn't an Earthbound hero, nor is Loki (not to mention Loki is otherwise occupied keeping the timeline together).
@@jonw8694 Nah imma do my own thing
Your team lacks Woman, man.
@@LuqqApple duh
@@jonw8694 Thor has been an Avenger since Day 1. He's always been there when there's been an earth level threat. Doesn't need to be earthbound for that. Captain Marvel can be earth or space bound as well. Just depends on her duties cuz she doesn't work for SWORD in MCU like she did in the comics or even Avengers EMH.
Wanda! As much as I’d love that, I think it makes much more sense that she’ll be more of a key to the reality warping of Battle World, and will be a big save for everyone at the end of this all, redeeming her character and setting her back on the hero path. And hopefully, reunited with Vision and her kids.
the nerd lost me at she hulk was good
Based
‘The nerd’ - they are all nerds as are all of the people watching these nerdy shows.
New Hero / Proxy
1Sam (Cap) / Steve
2Rhodey (Iron Patriot) /Tony
3She Hulk /Bruce
4Shang Chi /Thor (Character decended different realm with specialized weapon and adapt at fighting)
5Star Lord / Hawkeye
6Bucky (White Wolf) / Natasha
7Shuri (Black Panther) / T'Challa
8Adam Warlock / Vision
9Sprite / Wanda
Is my pick for the new Avengers in these movies, Captain America (Sam Wilson), Spider-Man (Holland) Shang Chi, HULK, Yelena Belova and Shuri.
No shuri please
@@starsick7so then who would you replace her with?
Yelena is in the Thunderbolts
Yelena is literally in a team already
I Also Like To add Dooms Squad
1 Scarlet Witch
2 Abomination
3 Venom
4 Namor
5 Arnim Zola
6 Hercules
*My Core 7 Avengers -* Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Captain America, Thor, Deadpool (the guy can literally jump to 616 whenever he wants), Captain Marvel and She-Hulk.
She Hulk and Deadpool breaking the 4th wall together?! That would be hilarious... And exhausting at the same time.
@@graydenday3760 Their chemistry would so delightful to see.
nah Deadpool needs a TemPad or Cable’s watch to do that
This conversation validates my concern about Marvel’s next two Avengers films! How are we making Avengers films without a cemented, fan-beloved Avengers team? There hasn’t been an established team since End Game.
No one can ever convince me that there was even one good scene in She Hulk
Bruce explaining the importance of the island to Jennifer....Tony and Bruce's whole science bros thing leading Tony to give Bruce a whole island to keep him calm
I believe that what most people don't understand about the difference between Bruce Banner and cousin Jennifer is that in the comics, when we had Smart Hulk, he would lose his temper and transform into Puny Banner with the raging personality. This is because of his childhood trauma in the comics. This seems to be the same in the MCU. Jennifer doesn't have these issues, so it usually doesn't make her turn into the rage monster.
Wasn't Sam on the Avengers team at the end of “Age of Ultron”?
They were like the B team/Tryout team.
@@thechairman74no they weren’t lmao they were an active and functioning avengers team at the beginning of civil war too
Colton looking sharp today man! Thoughtful points and a solid quip.
I enjoyed she hulk enough, it was decent, but saying 90 % of the problem with the show was the cgi is just asinine. The overall story was pretty weak, the humor was very hit or miss, and like all the Disney plus shows so far it needed more breathing room and longer episodes to further flesh out the characters.
She hulk was the worst show ever .
All the characters who are "too powerful" should just be put onto a "cosmic avengers" team like joining captain marvel and doing space stuff.
This is my list:
Sam Wilson (Captain America)
She Hulk
Sang Chi
Moon Knight
Shuri Black Panther
Spiderman
I would love to see a cosmic team:
Thor
Doctor strange
Captain Marvel
Loki
Scarlet Witch
Jane Foster
Young Avengers:
America Chavez
Kate Bishop
Cassie Lang
Iron heart
Eli Bradley
Skaar (Hulk son)
Perfect list, all three
Add Miles Morales to young Avengers and Nova to the Cosmic team. Also what about Wonderman?
@@GrandAdmiralPosey completely forgot about Nova and Miles, amazing adds Not that familiar with Wonderman tho
@@GrandAdmiralPosey They added so many Young Avengers and Champions characters that they did nothing with.
Thor said in the first Thor movie he comes from a place where magic and science are one in the same. Is safe to assume on some level that is a universal thing in the MCU
My Dream DOOMSDAY lineup:
1. Captain America (Leader)
2. Captain Marvel (Co-Leader)
3. Spider-Man
4. OG HULK
5. She-Hulk
6. Doctor Strange
7. Antman & Wasp
8. Hawkeye
9. THOR
10. DEADPOOL
Ang Lee or Ed Norton "OG HULK"?
HOW DID U KNOW? U DEFFO WORK IN THE INDUSTRY LIKE ME! THATS THE EXACT CAST!
how do you put Deadpool here but not Wolverine?
Shang Chi WITH HIS RINGS, War Machine, Ant Man AND The Wasp, She Hulk, Captain America, and America Chavez. If not Chavez then Shuri. But America seems like a good choice being that she’s mystical anddd multiversal. And White Vision
there's no way she hulk would be in both avengers movies , deadpool would be with avengers and he will be the one who will break the fourth wall if needed not she-hulk. my pick would be sentry , if they don't nerfed him in the thunderbolts
SHE-HULK is definitely gonna be on the team. Agreed the She-Hulk show wasn’t very good, but the character of Jennifer Walters/She-Hulk brilliantly played by Tatiana Maslany is too amazing not be in the team.
@@shubhangbahadur7112 it wasnt all that bro, she wasnt amazing, she was mid. shes probably going to be in the movies but i hope she has a smaller role to make place for actually interesting funny heroes
@@shubhangbahadur7112 eh
Deadpool is in a parallel universe, while I definitely see him in the movie it'll be difficult to ignore She-Hulk. Even Ruffalo has been saying she'll return.
Shang chi, Black Panther, Falcon, She Hulk, Spiderman, and Deadpool. I wish this would be it!
Guys, how did 2/3 of you pick Diet Hulk, 2/3 picked the Marvel Goonies cast (America and Ms. Marvel), and the only 1 who picked Shang-Chi only wants him if he’s neutered???? STOP ASKING MARVEL FOR MEDIOCRITY OR DISNEY WILL GRANT YOUR REQUEST
Touch grass babe you’re losing it
I just dont understand why they think Tenrings is stupid. Shangchi could be badass with those but these ppl are inexplicable with Shangchi comment, saying Shehulk problem was just vfx, wanting Peache machine instead of Love machine and to outright not even mention Dr Strange
My line up:
1. Captain America Sam Wilson
2. Spider-Man
3. Thor
4. Moon night
5. Shang Chi
6. War Machine
And ones I wanna see:
7. Star Lord
8. Hulk Bruce banner
9. Dare Devil
10. Deadpool
Definitely the coolest line up. Not realistic though.
There not being an Avengers team in the comics is what led to the formation of the Thunderbolts, Young Avengers, and New Avengers, at different points in time. That's what's been happening in the multiverse saga, lots of setup for those new teams, resulting in a new main team at the end.
But with the new changes, from the looks of it, we won’t be getting a Midnight Sons or Young Avengers movie, even though marvel has spent all this time trying to set them up, only for them to want skip straight to the Avengers movies and reset everything. Doomsday comes out very soon after F4, and there’s no space for either of those movies. They’re not even making a “New Avengers” movie, they’re making an Infinity War/Endgame-styled crossover movie, without even having a couple of lower-stakes Avengers/Age of Ultron-type films, where we can actually be introduced to and get to know this new team. If they wanted, they could’ve made the Multiverse Saga 10 years long like the Infinity Saga and produce much more movies and tv shows to properly build up to this massive crossover.
This should be setting up different pockets of the MCU.
Street Level MCU - The Defenders
Space Level MCU - Captain Marvel, Guardians, Thor
World Level MCU - The Avengers
Supernatural/Magic/Horror Level MCU - Dr Strange, MoonKnight, Blade, Scarlet Witch, etc
Politics level MCU - X-Men
? - F4
Don't know how to classify the F4.
@@juliusjean-baptiste924 for the multiverse saga, there can also be a "multiverse level MCU" which would include the F4 atm (+ loki and what if..?). but when the mcu reboots the F4 will prob be world/space/multiverse level, or all of them at different points in time - they protect new york, research and travel through space as well as research the multiverse, so they can be part of all of them. maybe it can start with world level, then evolve into space and multiverse level for the crossover event for the next saga.
but at the end of the day, marvel seemed to be too ambitious with this "multi-story" plan with a superhero team for each corner of the MCU, since they're abandoning it just so they can rush to the avengers movies and end the multiverse saga, and reboot the entire mcu. maybe they're saving these plans for after secret wars, but they'll prob just be focusing on the x-men and f4, not the midnight sons or young avengers.
"I don't want War Machine I want Peace Machine" is probably the greatest thing I've ever heard
I want to see the core Avengers be Captain America, Vision, Black Panther, Hercules, Spider-man, & Sersi.
this is NEVER happening💀 Hercules is most likely a villain and Eternals 2 isn’t happening
Hercules and sersi does not fit here
This was really good! I think I would go with: Sam Wilson, Shang-Chi, Spiderman, She-Hulk, Shuri and Scott Lang. I would also rename them the Savengers.
The team has to be a team that will make sense to know each other.
Captain America (Sam Wilson)
Bucky Barnes (Sam knows him and will bring him)
Black Panther (Shuri)
Ant-man
She-Hulk (professor Hulk will tell Sam to put her on the team because He can to take care of his son)
Wasp (She was part of the original team on the comics)
Captain America, black panther, spider man, wolverine, ahmg chi, Adam warlock, with appearances from dr hulk, dr strange (very brief and funny), starlord (at the end). Also I love an appearance from war machine and he’s with shield now. Great pic yall about nailed it.
Colton’s hairline is mad
Captain America, Spider-Man, Shang Chi, Captain Marvel, War Machine and this may be a shocker but Starlord since he’s now on earth.
She Hulk?! Hell NO!!!!!!!!
My God! Thor chatting with Spidey would be so fun 🤣
I literally stop watching after he said shehulk was great series. Thanks mate. I saved my 30mints
My list kind of tries to fill the roles of the original 6:
1. You have to have a Captain America ‘Sam Wilson.’
2. Star Lord, A charismatic guy who needs the team more than the team needs him but doesn’t know it yet like Stark
3. Captain Marvel, cosmically capable powerhouse to replace Thor but done in a way without nerfing her power or having her absent for 2/3 of the film
4 & 5. Ant-Man and The Wasp. Replacing Clint and Natasha. Can do infiltration spy stuff. Also, OG comic avengers.
6. Shang Chi. Feels like he has no place at first, connect him personally to the big bad (Thor&Loki, Stark&Ultron) No rings at first until the big showdown (like when Bruce shows up at the end of Avengers), then uses the rings in the battle but for a reason.
Wildcard 7. Wanda, because duh…
Captain America (Sam Wilson)
Black Panther (Shuri)
Dr Strange
Thor
She Hulk
Shang Chi.
I appreciate how you guys gave out love to the underappreciated Marvel characters. I get tired of people downing Marvel. I have liked everything Marvel has put out.
SC doesn't want Thor on the Avengers and thinks he's too OP?! This is the mutiverse saga with Dr Doom... If anything, they absolutely need him. He's also probably one of, if not the only person that can bring the audience back in that left after Endgame. I love Thor and so does almost everyone else even if Taika Waititi is so dumb and screwed up Love and Thunder BAD. Made Thor look like a fool the whole time basically. I hate what the director did to that movie, but I love Thor still. RDJ is right. He IS the house now especially since Chris Even's cap and Iron Man are out. They need Thor in on this and gain a lot of momentum back if done properly, which I trust the Russo brothers with these 2 Avengers films. Infinity War was damn near perfect.
Also, you think Shang Chi's ten rings are stupid?! I just can't with this guy anymore. Even the other 2 didn't comment on him calling the rings stupid because they aren't. Also, Ms Marvel sucks and will be a part of the young Avengers along with Kate Bishop and Ant-man's daughter. Shang Chi was clearly brought in to be an Avenger via Wong and his portal discussing the rings with Banner and I think Cpt Marvel? I think, I can't remember. Besides, who's to say the Avengers is a 6 person group?! Did you even watch Infinity Wars and Endgame?! As well as "Star Lord" is coming back but the GoTG arc is over, so he's probably going to go look for purpose and bring that funny/goofy and stupid persona to the team. These guys and their takes are crap for the most part.
Also, She Hulk?! No god please f*** no unless they make her more fierce and polished personality wise. much more realistic CGI. The 2 I for sure do agree with is Shuri as black panther and Sam as the new cap. Was hoping for Yelena to take Natasha's place as black widow because she's her sister and a black widow as well, but we'll see where thunderbolts goes via story conclusion. Maybe in Secret Wars.
Sorry, buddy. I'm un-subbing. Too many trash takes and weird videos lately. Too many videos I wish I didn't watch wasting my time.
24:00 Hemsworth's final speech as Dementus was Oscar worthy for sure!
My new Avengers line up will be
1. Sam wilson Captain America
2. Shang chi
3. Spider man
4. Kate Bishop
6. War Machine
Wild card would be Thor
I was gonna say, everyone forgot about Kate Bishop. That’s the best new character introduced on a Disney plus show. Need to see her and Yelena on screen together again.
I love when the boys do a vid together😂banter be on point
21:08 his mom’s name is Martha
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!?!
Ryan you’re a savage in this and I love it.
I wholeheartedly believed that the point of the Disney+ shows was to set up the West Coast Avengers either in movie or series, so I think some of those characters would be reserved for that. Also, I'm looking for She-Hulk to be in the Fantastic Four Movie, and join at the end when The Thing leaves.
West Coast Avengers:
Hawkeye
Mockingbird
Iron Man - Red/White Armor (Rhodey)
Wonder Man (Vision)
Scarlet Witch
Moon Knight
*U.S.Agent
Avengers:
Ant-Man (Scott Lang)
Wasp (Hope Van Dyne)
Gi-antman/Goliath (Hank Pym)
Photon
Cap/Falcon
Black Knight
*Winter Soldier
This pod was so much fun!!
Is Colton ok? He looks sick..
He’s trapped in a TV, what do you expect?!??
He said he really liked she hulk so something must be wrong with him
That’s someone who likes she hulk
Damn, these three have dynamic. They had fun recording this
Liking the she hulk show is wild
For my new Avengers team I'd include:
- Yelena (there's always have to be a Black Widow)
- Captain Marvel (I get it, she's OP, but come on if the enemy is Doctor Doom, Kang or Galactus, they need someone like Wanda or Carol to level the playing field)
- Shang-Chi
- Spider-man
- (the new) Captain (Falcon) America
- Thor
- Ant-Man & The Wasp
- Hawkeye (Kate Bishop)
- She-Hulk and Hulk
With dozens of supporting heroes as well, but these would be the main ones. And when they bring Wanda back, I'd add her to the team (though I don't know if they're planning on doing that, as I feel like a lot of people think she needs to redeem herself before being accepted into the hero team).
Every time I hear Colton ogburn talk about she-hulk I throw up in my mouth. Truly sickening
This one is so good I’m watching it a second time in a row
Guys you’re forgetting Colonial Rhodes never had those convos with Sam. That was a skrull lol
Heresy. We do not speak it.
I dont think its colonial or victorian Rhodes, its Colonel Rhodes 😂
Really enjoyed this episode! My picks: Sam Wilson, Peter Parker, LTC Rhodes, Jennifer Walters, Shaun Shang-Chi, Peter Quill.
Supporting cast that I’d love the Avengers to work with on the big screen: Daredevil, Moonknight, Black Panther, Cable.
Cap, War Machine, Shang Chi, She Hulk, Hawkeye, and Black Panther.
Ms. Marvel should do a teamup with Spider-Man, they are friends in the comics and they've both been to space and are still youngish, it could be a good dynamic
Any team without straight white men, and it will be a complete flop at the theaters